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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Unplugged. Before we get into a little

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Speaker 1: start with my hometown team, the Sacramento Kings, who've lost

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Speaker 1: five straight games. According to a reporter close to the team,

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Speaker 1: the team, the team could attempt a full blown fire

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Speaker 1: sale approaching the trade deadline, so Bonus, Levine, derosden Ellis, Malik, Monk,

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Speaker 1: Schroeder all reported available. And I just want to take

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Speaker 1: like to be a fan of the Kings for a

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Speaker 1: I got a chance to play for Sack for two

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Speaker 1: different stints, and both of them unfortunately just winning starts

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Speaker 1: twenty three. I came back around. I was actually getting

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Speaker 1: Kings and Light the Beam had tooken the league by

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Speaker 1: storm first time back in the playoffs, and I think

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Speaker 1: lost to the Warriors in Game seven when Steph went crazy,

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Speaker 1: but the city was on fire. There was a lot

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Speaker 1: got sent Haliburton to Indiana and so Bonus to Sacramento.

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Speaker 1: But nearly two seasons later, we look at it and

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Speaker 1: it's an empty shell of the momentum they had kind

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Speaker 1: of built with that roster. Two of the main characters,

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Speaker 1: Dearon Fox is now in San Antonio, the starting point

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Speaker 1: and then Mike Brown signed a good deal to be

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Speaker 1: third seed in the Eastern Conference. Both had actually signed

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Speaker 1: extensions before they left. This current season, the Kings are

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Speaker 1: twenty ninth in net rating, twenty ninth in offense, and

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Speaker 1: everything they can to tank, it seems like that the

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Speaker 1: Kings accidentally tank often. They signed Keegan Murray, someone who

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Speaker 1: They took some bets, and I love Zach Levine, but

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Speaker 1: Zach Levine's contract was structured so bad that some teams

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Speaker 1: the teams didn't want to touch. But the Kings took

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Speaker 1: five million a year. Picked up Russ as a free

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Speaker 1: Being around that twenty twenty three run where although it

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Speaker 1: different when the Kings were winning and it gave that

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Speaker 1: it's just been a tough run overall. Again, that one

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Speaker 1: since then, it's just been nasty. It's it's, it's it's

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Speaker 1: almost torture to these Kings fans. Do they blow it up?

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Speaker 1: Do they fire management? Like? What do they do? Obviously

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Speaker 1: at what this team's done as far as drafting, and

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Speaker 1: I feel small market teams your ability to draft and

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Speaker 1: But over the last ten more than ten years, I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is dating back to twenty eleven. Twenty eleven, they

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Speaker 1: All Stars. Halliburton, before getting hurt, had taken his team

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Speaker 1: they don't keep them. Briefly, Pete della Sandro made a

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Speaker 1: Mike Malone, someone who I remember a former teammate of mine.

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Cousin absolutely loved and keep in mind too when

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Speaker 1: they had Boogie, and I don't think Boogie gets to

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Speaker 1: love and respect he deserves, but because he was one

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Speaker 1: of the best sinners in the game, most skilled sinners

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Speaker 1: how are you supposed to build? How are you supposed

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Speaker 1: to win with any of that? I hope you guys

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Speaker 1: don't take this as I'm taking a dig at my team.

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Speaker 1: It's or excuse me, my hometown team. It's just more

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Speaker 1: for the fans. You know a lot of the fans.

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Speaker 1: I you know, I've been there since I was eight

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Speaker 1: or nine years old, so again, I know how passionate

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Speaker 1: how much they deserve a good team. So it'll be

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Speaker 1: interesting to see what management can do. Nobody is untouchable.

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Speaker 1: My god, Doug Christy has has been trying to work

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Speaker 1: with what he can work with. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: really interesting to see what the Kings do with some

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Speaker 1: new decision makers that are in the in the front

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Speaker 1: within the next two or three years that this management

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Speaker 1: can give you guys something to cheer and smile about again.

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Speaker 1: But without further ado, let me welcome my friends. Someone

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Speaker 1: who actually plays Max. I didn't know you had to

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Speaker 1: breech Stinton Sun. Yeah, but welcome to the show, Mad Max. Max.

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Speaker 1: I just want to I don't know where I was.

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Speaker 1: I was somewhere and two ladies and a guy came

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Speaker 1: up to me and told me how much they love

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Speaker 1: old Max. We love when you guys have Max on.

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Speaker 1: He's so funny, one of us. He's so hands like Max.

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Speaker 1: They still loving Max out there. Man, what is Max?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, God damn, I don't know what

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Speaker 2: the fuck it is.

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Speaker 1: Max, crazy Max.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you, man, but one thing, Man, everywhere

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Speaker 3: I go, well, I'm telling this because of this show.

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Speaker 2: Right here, all the smoke. Man, I can't go nowhere.

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Speaker 2: Why I ain't been nowhere last fo five days? I

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Speaker 1: If you think about it, it was literally it was

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Speaker 1: really like I mean it was. We're two weeks away

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Speaker 1: from a year ago. This ship happened at all Start

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Speaker 1: last time, but in that year Max is back. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 1: Man, no doubt, Mat, no doubt. So you got a

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Speaker 1: chance to play in Sack. You kind of heard my

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Speaker 1: opening about the Kings. You were there with j Will

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Speaker 1: and Vlodi and Web. What was that team like? That was? Man?

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Speaker 1: That was right before they really made that jump and

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Speaker 2: We had a great year that year, Web.

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Speaker 1: What year was it?

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Speaker 2: Ninety nine?

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Speaker 1: I think Okay, I'm not I mean I think that's right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So we had a great year that year. Web

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Speaker 3: White Chocolate was a rookie. We had some good players

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Speaker 1: And was that John Barry with you? John Barry with me? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: We made it to we made it to the first

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Speaker 2: Utah may beat us? But but but to for the city?

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Speaker 3: Like you said, Man, the city is it ain't ship

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Speaker 3: out there to do like you said, goddamn, I mean

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Speaker 3: that's all they got. The home they had is fucking

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Speaker 3: that's their Sacramento Kings. Man, they gotta do better. But

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Speaker 3: they got to blow that ship up.

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Speaker 2: This they gonna they.

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Speaker 1: Gotta blow it up.

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Speaker 3: They gotta blow this ship up because you know what,

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Speaker 3: it starts from the mother fucking the top.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: When you get motherfuckers up at the top, don't know

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Speaker 1: I mean, I still got to go around there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know I'm true.

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Speaker 2: Just speaking, man, I'm just speaking to you.

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Speaker 2: I speak for you there, goddamn it.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so but now, but now they gotta it

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Speaker 3: got a lot of value now they can, they can.

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Speaker 3: I mean, just just just tank the fucking season. The

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Speaker 3: season's over, Okay, get rid of them guys that y'all

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Speaker 3: can trade and get up for.

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Speaker 2: Get them draft picks. Man, get you got.

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Speaker 1: You gotta go back on almost the okay, see route,

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Speaker 1: you know where. You gotta get get rid of what

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Speaker 1: you got, and it's gonna get uglier before it gets better.

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Speaker 1: But play for the future. But they got real quick

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Speaker 2: You know, I mean we got to get to them

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Speaker 2: something to.

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Speaker 1: Clap about, to knock them cow bells around. For what

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Speaker 1: was a young j Will like? And what was people

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Speaker 1: forgot because you played with Web before he got had

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Speaker 1: any knee issues too, Like how tough with se Web

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Speaker 1: and how cold was a young j Will ship?

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Speaker 2: Sea Web?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 2: He was. He's one of the best.

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Speaker 3: Uh, I mean you got I got a large one.

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Speaker 2: I got Iverson, I got Sea Web. That's what I got.

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Speaker 3: Man, the best players I ever played with in the NBA. Man,

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, man, s Web was. I mean he

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Speaker 2: In the suburbs and shit.

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Speaker 3: So he go out and get a big ass house

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Speaker 3: I'm looking. I'm in one of them damn condos across

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Speaker 2: I'm living right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was living there. He living too extravagance. I

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Speaker 2: So bocal Storia. The motherfucker ended up living with me. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then the next day you think this nigga want

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Speaker 3: Oh get he was at my crib every night. I

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Speaker 1: And playing video games.

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Speaker 1: I used to webs where wanted to fuck me up?

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Speaker 1: When I was because I played Where was my big homie?

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Speaker 1: So I used to every summer from U C l A,

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Speaker 3: Your motherfucking assay changed. Still, that's all you motherfucking that

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Speaker 3: to you talking about Man, I love it.

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Speaker 2: I want it because I love you.

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Speaker 1: I love you.

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Speaker 2: I love you too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean to your point, you know, we

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Speaker 1: just hope that they can get it together and put

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Speaker 2: Out of there, Sacramento, get them guys out of there

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Speaker 1: Some guy Max speaking of starting over and kind of

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Speaker 1: building a team from scratch, which we feel Sacramento should. Okay, see,

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Speaker 1: is it time for them too? And and and again,

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Speaker 1: not to jump to conclusions, but a lot of young assets,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they got a lot of ass.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I get rid of some of them motherfuckers,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, because I mean, I mean

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Speaker 3: to tell you the truth, no, just to be honest

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Speaker 1: I just think they came back down to earth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that championship ship and all these everybody in your

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Speaker 3: to us, you know that that coming back to second

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Speaker 2: It was like a sixth seed of top type ship

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Speaker 3: So but yeah, man, they got to just continue to

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Speaker 3: like I think, they got to get rid of some

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Speaker 3: them better. I mean that they put some more life

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Speaker 1: Well to this upcoming draft, they have the Clippers unprotected pick,

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Speaker 1: right now. The Utah Jazz top eight protected pick in

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Speaker 1: Rockets aren't going to be that low, but one top

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Speaker 1: got a pick swap with the Clippers, a Nuggets top

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Speaker 1: eight and twenty nine, the Spurs top sixteen protected pick,

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Speaker 1: which converts into two twenty twenty seven second rounds if

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Speaker 1: it doesn't convey, So they got stuff to play with.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty eight, you got first round picks and a

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Speaker 1: of just draft capital. There are some big names that

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Speaker 1: uh Jannis zion, cat A, d Embiid Kawhi. I don't

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Speaker 2: Going anything anywhere either.

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Speaker 3: But all the mother motherfuckers, all the mother motherfuckers, they

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Speaker 3: need to go somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: Every fresh starts. Did you get a chance to see

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Speaker 1: Did you get a chance to see Zion go at

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Speaker 1: Wimby the other night.

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Speaker 2: Yes, oh boy, oh boy, yeah, oh boy, yeah, he was.

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Speaker 1: If he can ever get that back, If he can ever,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't get his mind right. His mind right. He

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Speaker 2: They're gonna put his hands fray next.

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Speaker 1: Week, dream you stupid. He's such an extreme talent.

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Speaker 2: Fucking pull his hands fraying next week. They're gonna be

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Speaker 2: out for fucking six weeks. So what are we talking?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 3: Zion ain't gonna do nothing, man, He's just I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm I was happy for him when he did that

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Speaker 1: Man, But Zion might be taking down too much. He

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Speaker 1: might have to. He might have to keep his keep

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Speaker 1: his meeting his pay.

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Speaker 2: Keep them Johnson, Yeah, keep that Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we keep hearing all they say that boy, that

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Speaker 2: Like that Johnson, like that Johnson.

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Speaker 1: As he should for a young fella. Man. We got

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Speaker 1: we gotta see bro in the court because when you

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Speaker 1: watch and I didn't get a chance to see the

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Speaker 1: whole game. I only saw the second half, Like when

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Speaker 2: Yes, he is one of the best. I mean, but

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Speaker 2: he's gonna be hurt next week though.

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Speaker 1: Stupid at A Joe, Jannis Zion, cat A D. We

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Speaker 1: both agree that Embiid and Kawhi probably aren't going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Who would you like to see moved? Obviously, we've talked

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Speaker 1: a lot about job possibly moving Jannis cat A d

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Speaker 1: Zion and that the fresh Start.

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Speaker 2: It's two motherfuckers.

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Speaker 3: First of all, let's get Giannis out that motherfucker man. Man,

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Speaker 3: that's some bullshit they putting that kid through. Man, that's

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Speaker 3: all all the ship that man done did for that

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Speaker 3: goddamn little bullshit ass motherfucker city Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: I can't stand you, motherfuckers. I'm mad. I don't like

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Speaker 2: Milwaukee no more, neither motherfuck Milwaukeer.

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Speaker 3: I ain't never did nothing up there but go on

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Speaker 3: the backside of eat that soul food, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Motherfuckers, y'all know that soul good restaurant on the backside

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Speaker 2: of I can't remember that. I don't remember.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to remember that, mother because I don't

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Speaker 3: want to get no.

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Speaker 2: But but fuck that.

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Speaker 3: What they doing Giannie is fucked up. Though I don't

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Speaker 3: like it. It's disrespectful you. I mean because Joannis donet

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Speaker 3: give y'all all they can give y'all. It's time for

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Speaker 3: John to get the fuck out of there.

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Speaker 2: Man, he's just got a nigga. Sign that motherfucker's ship

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Speaker 2: and say, niggas trade me.

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Speaker 4: You can trade me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you gotta all saying you can't trade nigga.

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Speaker 2: You better sign that motherfucker. Get the hell out of

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Speaker 2: the boy. You look bad after you look like ship.

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Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of there and get my nigga job.

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Speaker 3: Get job out of the motherfucking god damn Memphis, cause John.

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Speaker 2: Don't even want to play. Job went over the goddamn

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it.

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Speaker 3: Was in China, Hong Kong, uh, one of them down,

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Speaker 3: one of them that was okay, Germany.

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Speaker 2: He was over to Germany.

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Speaker 1: My goddamn, I.

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Speaker 5: Get more love over here and made me want to

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Speaker 5: come out hand play and job played like we know

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Speaker 5: how job plays, you know, And then and I mean,

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Speaker 5: come on, man, if that takes what man, get job

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Speaker 5: out of Memphis.

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Speaker 3: Man, that man saying clearly he wants to fuck out,

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Speaker 3: get my nigga out of and and t get tea

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Speaker 3: out of there.

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Speaker 2: Job, get him out of there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they both need a fresh start. Giannis is out

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Speaker 1: four to six weeks with the right calf injury. Doc

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Speaker 1: Rivers said, there's no timetable for a return. You know

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Speaker 1: what scares me about this right here? Max? This is

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Speaker 1: his fourth calf injury and less than two years. But

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Speaker 1: hold on, man, Both calves have been injured. But we

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Speaker 1: I don't even want to say it, but that that

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Speaker 1: that concerns me. And I'm not sure what it is.

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Speaker 1: Is that wearing tearror? Is it not?

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Speaker 2: But Matt did the motherfucker look like something happened. But

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Speaker 2: I know a calf.

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Speaker 3: Injury can be like what they know, and he had

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Speaker 3: him before and I went to that motherfucker too. But

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Speaker 3: the man came in the interview at the end of

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Speaker 2: Did you hear what he said? He said, I'd probably

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Speaker 2: be back in March somewhere, Back in March somewhere, I said, March.

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Speaker 2: This motherfucker said March. I said, well, god damn, he.

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Speaker 3: Said he's gonna be probably It'll probably be back March

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Speaker 3: when I come.

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Speaker 2: That's clearly what he said.

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Speaker 3: I heard the interview, So deal at my wrong am

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Speaker 3: I right and saying what the fuck I said? Because

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Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know I heard that. So

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Speaker 3: but that's crazy. So that man won't fuck out of it. Man,

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Speaker 3: get that man, Man sign that motherfucker thing. Say nope,

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Speaker 3: no clause trade shit. Man, Get the fuck out of there, man,

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Speaker 3: and get yourself back to playing the way you played.

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Speaker 1: Bro Bucks are currently eleventh in the East at eighteen

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Speaker 1: and twenty four. If Jannis comes back in four to

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Speaker 1: six weeks, it will be March. But if you're thinking strategy,

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Speaker 1: maybe they shut him down and have a shot at

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Speaker 1: this heavy, heavy draft that's coming up and able to

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Speaker 1: lot of young talent coming in this draft with aj

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Speaker 1: and Darren Peterson and Cam Boozer and the boy from

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Speaker 1: North Carolina Max. If Jannie is up and out of here,

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Speaker 1: where would you like to see him land? The word

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Speaker 1: is it's possibly New York or California is where Jannis

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Speaker 2: Probably the one of those markets, like that big city market.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I said New Yorker, one of those l A teams.

438
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I figured that.

439
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's what What about Janni's pairing up with

440
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: Steph for one last run for Steph.

441
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Speaker 3: Ship, John, I wouldn't do that ship.

442
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 1: Where are you going? Where you're going if you're honest.

443
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Speaker 1: I mean, let's say let's say that Golden State and

444
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 1: the Lakers.

445
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with. I'm gonna stay with the nick

446
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna stay with the Knicks. They gotta they gotta

447
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 2: good towns out of that motherfucker. He got to go.

448
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 2: They gotta good out of it.

449
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: That's a good replacement. They would love, they would love

450
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 1: he brought some and Janni's brought some property out there

451
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 1: with two summers ago or last, the Knicks would be

452
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Speaker 1: a good Yeah.

453
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Speaker 3: I think he's gotta be a three team like trade

454
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 3: type ship. So make that happen, though, But I think

455
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Speaker 3: that would be great man. Put car Towns ass over

456
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Speaker 3: there to walk.

457
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: The one guy I think that needs a fresh start

458
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 1: I think is Zion. I think Zion could use a

459
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 1: fresh start and kind of get out of hit the

460
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 1: old ways that have kind of hindered him up to

461
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Speaker 1: this point of his career. I mean, obviously, this guy

462
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: is tremendously talented. Injuries have played a role just that

463
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: organization as a whole. I know there's some good people

464
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 1: over there, but that haven't won in a long time.

465
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 1: Off the court, stuff has been loud for Zion, but

466
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: he showed the other night again when he is playing

467
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: the game he loves and playing the way he's capable,

468
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: he's one of the best players in the world. So

469
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Speaker 1: I don't know where a Zion will go, possibly a Chicago,

470
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: but I know there's a ton of teams that would

471
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Speaker 1: line up if they knew that they got that player

472
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: that they saw play the other night against wembyor Sanders.

473
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Speaker 1: Max was added to the Pole Bowl to replace Drake

474
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Speaker 1: May since Drake will be playing in the Super Bowl.

475
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Speaker 3: Max thoughts congratulations to my young brothers.

476
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Speaker 1: Man.

477
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 2: I'm happy for him. Man. Maybe not.

478
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 3: Deserved it, but I mean, I mean, I appreciate the

479
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 3: homage that they showed a young fella though, because I.

480
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Speaker 2: Mean he did come in.

481
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Speaker 3: I mean, how many games did he play though, I mean, goddamn,

482
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 3: how many.

483
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 2: Gags did he played?

484
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Speaker 1: Seven or eight? Seven games? Seven, three and four, yeah,

485
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: three and four, two and eight when he didn't play.

486
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 2: So, I mean, so come on.

487
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Speaker 3: So, But I mean, I mean, I'm happy for him,

488
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: and I mean I love the Sander's family.

489
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,719
Speaker 2: I mean shit, but I mean I'm happy. I mean

490
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: it's a blessing for him, you.

491
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Speaker 1: Know, just to you know why, I'm happy for him

492
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Speaker 1: from a standpoint of the way Stefanski try to dig

493
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Speaker 1: this ship. But also the NFL knows that schadors must

494
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: watch TV. Yeah, the numbers are crazy. I was hurrying

495
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: home from church. I'd go to the nine am session,

496
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: study eleven am session to watch Cleveland brown game. Who's

497
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: ever said that? Who's ever said that? And I remember then,

498
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 1: back when they had Bernie Kozar and they make it

499
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: like no one has ever said that they're going to

500
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Speaker 1: hurry home to watch the Browns game. So I love

501
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: the NOD. Obviously a tough first year for him, but

502
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: the NFL is not domb. They know that having him

503
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: in the game is going to bring some more eyeballs

504
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Speaker 1: to their Pro Bowl. Max, thank you for your time.

505
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: Hold the funk up stress them arms out, cam, hold

506
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 1: the camera. It's time for Max to shot.

507
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 2: Hold the fuck up stress my oms.

508
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: Yeah there you go. Yeah are you gonna are you

509
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: gonna start with the sit up?

510
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Speaker 2: So?

511
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 1: Okay with so make sure you got that cam. You

512
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 1: got some hold up?

513
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 3: Hey, Max Max Max bet is the bat.

514
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 2: I know I got you. I got you. Hold up, Okay,

515
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it all.

516
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: Hold up, here comes the bullshit. But go ahead, I'm listening.

517
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: Can old sixty old nigga just do twenty five cushes

518
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: and twenty five cushes.

519
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: You can do twenty five cush ups and twenty five

520
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: sit ups and then give.

521
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 3: Me ten do fifty setups and twenty five.

522
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 2: What you want me to do?

523
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: Max? That's too that's too easy, man.

524
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Speaker 2: What you want?

525
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Speaker 1: Max? That's too easy? You want to You're sixty sixty

526
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: and I know your body's been through a lot. So

527
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you this woman, give you that. Take

528
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Speaker 1: it a let's go, I take it. I take twenty

529
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Speaker 1: cush ups, twenty sit ups, and then twenty cush ups

530
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Speaker 1: and twenty set ups. When you get to l A

531
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Speaker 1: and I'm cutting ten off of both.

532
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it, doing it.

533
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Speaker 1: Let's go. Yeah, you and what is said, and keep

534
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: it and you and and you keep fifty. I just

535
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: want to cush ups and sit up.

536
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Speaker 2: They're gonna give my money back?

537
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, my dog, Yeah for that ship. Yeah, this ship.

538
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: Never give myself. Yeah, I'm finna get ready to do

539
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 2: it thing. I gotta do it.

540
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: There we go.

541
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Speaker 6: I'm finna do it one two.

542
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you could have easily did fifty. Max. You've

543
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: been bullshit with I told you, yeah, you ain't shape

544
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: Max after funk, I'm talking about Max. Moving on to

545
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 1: some football. The super Bowl is set. It's gonna be

546
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 1: in the Bay, but my team won't be in it.

547
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: But we have another NFC representative. We got the Seahawks

548
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: taking on the Patriots. And to help me discuss this,

549
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Speaker 1: I got my man, Jake the Snake Plumber and his

550
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: partner Nate Jackson. First of all, fellas, congratulations on the

551
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: pod House. How's pod life treating you guys? Not bad?

552
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 4: It's been fun.

553
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Speaker 1: You know.

554
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 4: With the Broncos, it was a great year. They were winning,

555
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 4: so you know, everything's good when you're winning.

556
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, we're trying to be like you guys. Man.

557
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 6: I mean, you know there's conversations that people want to hear,

558
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 6: right that you don't get on ESPN, that you don't

559
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 6: get Sports Center that we can have and and you

560
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 6: know articulate some of the things that guys go through.

561
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Speaker 1: So, uh, you guys leading the way man, Man I

562
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 1: appreciate that, and yeah, best of luck with that. Let's

563
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: get thoughts. Let's let's talk about this game a little bit.

564
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 1: What did you see that stood out and anyone could

565
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: take it in the NFC and the AFC title games,

566
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: players defenses? What stood out to you guys? Yeah?

567
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Speaker 6: So for me, I mean, uh that that game here

568
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 6: in Denver was crazy. Whether the Broncos had an opportunity

569
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Speaker 6: to win that game. The New England Patriots had a

570
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 6: pretty easy schedule all year long. You know, they were

571
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Speaker 6: able to kind of I wouldn't say skate on into

572
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 6: where they are, but they came into Denver the number

573
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Speaker 6: two seed, and you know, they didn't play that awesome

574
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 6: in the game, to be honest, like they're they're front

575
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 6: seven on defense, kind of manhandled the Broncos offensive line.

576
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 6: But there were plays to be made out there, and

577
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 6: the Broncos just couldn't figure out how to make them.

578
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 6: The Broncos had like a lot of good luck all

579
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Speaker 6: season long, won a bunch of fourth quarter comeback victories,

580
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 6: a ton of magic, and then bow Knicks gets hurt

581
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Speaker 6: and then the backups in Jared Stidham and they just

582
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 6: couldn't really rally around him offensively. The weather rolled in,

583
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 6: the snow got kind of crazy down there, and the

584
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 6: New England Patriots just didn't make the mistakes right that

585
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 6: the Broncos made. At the end of the game, we

586
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Speaker 6: were able to walk away with a win. I think

587
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 6: it's gonna be hard for them, though, face it off

588
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 6: against Seattle. You mentioned it, like the NFC West is

589
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 6: crazy and Seattle looks like untouchable right now. The Rams

590
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 6: game of good shot though, didn't they But the Seahawks

591
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 6: are just scary. Their defense is scary. Sam Donald's playing good.

592
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 6: They got some crazy weapons on offense. But but yeah,

593
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Speaker 6: I don't know if that Super Bowl is gonna be

594
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Speaker 6: very close personally.

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Speaker 1: Jake as a quarterback and someone who kind of has

596
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Speaker 1: to navigate all types of climates and whatever's thrown ass,

597
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: you have to navigate that. Those are two cold weather games,

598
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: particularly the Denver game. How does your game plan change,

599
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Speaker 1: particularly for a younger quarterback like a Drake May when

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00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: those kind of that kind of weather is the main

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Speaker 1: state within the game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you saw the Patriots go to the

603
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 4: run in the second half. They actually had a pretty

604
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 4: effective run game. It kept them in decent third down

605
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 4: situations a few times, allowing you know, the one game

606
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Speaker 4: clincher that Drake made some big plays with his legs,

607
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 4: especially late that last one as a quarterback. Though the weather,

608
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Speaker 4: I mean, we're both dealing with it on both sides

609
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 4: of the field. I played in really only really one

610
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Speaker 4: downpour of snow, and I was worried, thinking, oh no,

611
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Speaker 4: it's gonna be snowy and horrible. But it was actually dry,

612
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 4: the ball didn't get wet as opposed to the rain,

613
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Speaker 4: and we had fun. It was a Raiders game. We

614
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 4: lost that game, but it was so much fun playing

615
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 4: in the snow. This game, with the snow and the wind,

616
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Speaker 4: it definitely dictated what they were doing offensively and with

617
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Speaker 4: the With the Broncos, their run game this year really

618
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 4: was bo Nicks. They didn't have a real consistent ground

619
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Speaker 4: game where they could impose their will and just move

620
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Speaker 4: the opposing defense, get three, four, five yards and stay

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Speaker 4: on schedule. A lot of their rushing and running game

622
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Speaker 4: came from Bow's legs and when he's gone, Stidham no

623
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Speaker 4: offense to him. He just wasn't Bow as far as

624
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 4: athletically and not able to go get those real crucial

625
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 4: yards even though he had a pretty big scramble late

626
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,239
Speaker 4: before they missed that field goal. But we saw, you know,

627
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 4: what Drake May did was was really he didn't look

628
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 4: great like an MVP to me, even throwing the ball,

629
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Speaker 4: but what he did with his legs and stepping up

630
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 4: at the right time was huge for his team because

631
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Speaker 4: limits what you can do. When the weather gets that bad.

632
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Speaker 4: You want to throw the ball deep and you say,

633
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Speaker 4: let's do it, but see what happens the ball is underthrown.

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00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 4: Guys aren't ready for it. It just changes everything and

635
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 4: I think you can get you can over coach too

636
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 4: much when the weather changes, instead of just going back

637
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Speaker 4: to what you do well and just saying this is

638
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 4: basic stuff. Let's just do this. But that's usually a

639
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 4: run game, and the Broncos, you know, we didn't really

640
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 4: do that all year, so it was hard for them

641
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 4: to find that in this moment when they needed it

642
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Speaker 4: the most.

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Speaker 6: Also, also with a snow, like you're running routes, if

644
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 6: you're a receiver a tight end, that snow kind of

645
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 6: packs into your cleats there and you don't have the

646
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Speaker 6: same kind of traction that you normally would. So you

647
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Speaker 6: see every time there's a TV timeout when it's stowing

648
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Speaker 6: like that. They were running on with the little scraper

649
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 6: things and all the guys were running up to the

650
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 6: things of scraping their feet on it, just trying to

651
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 6: get the snow off because you don't really realize you're

652
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 6: trying to run a sharp cut and you got snow

653
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Speaker 6: all packed into your cleats. You're gonna slide on that thing,

654
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Speaker 6: so the cuts aren't as sharp. There's not as much

655
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Speaker 6: separation from DB's on your route, so you got to

656
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 6: go get that thing. You got to body him up,

657
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 6: and you got to go get a rebound, and the

658
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 6: guy and the guys weren't really able to kind of

659
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 6: pull down those throws in those conditions.

660
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: I definitely got to say obviously, losing your quarterback going

661
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: into a championship game is never easy. And I became

662
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: a bow not that I wasn't a fan. I just

663
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: didn't know if how he played in college would translate,

664
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: but he was special this year. I didn't get a

665
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: chance to see a ton of Denver games, but whenever

666
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: I see the highlights and did tune into a few games,

667
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: you know, obviously always room to grow, but just very

668
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 1: impressive the way he's able to control that offense, so man,

669
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: I wish him a speedy recovery. We're here, Pats Seahawks.

670
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: Who were you guys looking to stand out, whether it

671
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: be offense or defense, And let me get your guys' predictions.

672
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 4: Man, I'm going, like Nate alluded to it earlier, from

673
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 4: what I saw when the weather was good, I don't

674
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 4: think there's gonna be much of a chance to beat

675
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 4: the Seahawks right now. They're they're rolling on offense, Clint Kubiak,

676
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 4: who's just a kid, Gary Kubiak's son. They're running a

677
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 4: pretty diverse offense with Darnold is feeling comfortable going through

678
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 4: progressions and and and when he throws the ball, even

679
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,959
Speaker 4: if it's not accurate, those guys on that his playmakers

680
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 4: are coming down with it. Those the weapons he has

681
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 4: on that offense. Uh, there's five or six dudes that

682
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 4: want the ball and not just want it, but what

683
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 4: they do afterwards is really what's special about that that unit.

684
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 4: And I don't think, you know, with Seattle's strengthen their defense,

685
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna get after Drake. I don't think

686
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 4: this is gonna be a close Super Bowl. I think

687
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 4: Seahawks role on these guys, and uh, you know, I've

688
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 4: got extra momentum motivation too. I've played against Rabel in

689
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 4: Ohio State when they beat us in the Rose Bowl.

690
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 4: Had a little altercation with him in in an All

691
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 4: Star Shrine game where where he tried to kind of

692
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 4: tried to hurt me in a game like that, And

693
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 4: I have an opinion of him that I won't go

694
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 4: too in depth, but mind seeing them get their asses

695
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 4: kicked tones, Yeah.

696
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it.

697
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, you got to give some props to New England

698
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 6: for getting in this position. Obviously, they're a good football

699
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 6: team to be able to make it to the Super Bowl,

700
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 6: but I don't think they're going to be able to

701
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 6: handle Seattle. I mean the defense I saw from the

702
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 6: New England Patriots a couple of days ago here, granted

703
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 6: it was in the snowstorm, and uh, but the Broncos

704
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 6: that that that offense is not going to put up

705
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 6: enough points in the Super Bowl to match what the

706
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 6: Seattle offense is going to do to that defense. There

707
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 6: was a lot of room on the field against that

708
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 6: Patriots defense that the Broncos weren't able to take advantage of.

709
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 6: Partly because of the conditions, but partly because their personnel

710
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,479
Speaker 6: and Seattle doesn't have that problem. It's not gonna be weather,

711
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 6: you know, in the Bay, It's probably gonna be fine,

712
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 6: could be rained, but it ain't gonna be snowy and

713
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 6: cold like that. But the skill position players, the guys

714
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 6: they have to go make plays, and also the running

715
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 6: game they have they commit to the running game, and

716
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 6: so the play action pass just opens up. And so

717
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 6: that's what you see all this room and Sam Donald

718
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 6: being able to stand back there and dial because the

719
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 6: running game is so effective that the defense is ready

720
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 6: for that, and all of a sudden, No, nope, it's

721
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 6: a pass. They're out of position and guys are getting beat.

722
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 6: So you guys gonna you see guys running free. I

723
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 6: think Seattle is just, you.

724
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: Know, too tough. They had it.

725
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 6: They beat the Niners. Is the Niners your team? Matt, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

726
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 6: I mean I was we were playing. We were playing

727
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 6: with house money though, we were were Yeah you playing

728
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 6: with house money. Yeah, you're right, But I'm sure you

729
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 6: had hope going into that game, and I did too. Hey,

730
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 6: maybe they can get it done. They got the mojo,

731
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 6: they got the magic not forty one to six.

732
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: It was ugly, right, and then the Rancourt. We scored

733
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: more points this game though, than we did the game

734
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: before against them.

735
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 4: Right.

736
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 6: It just shows you how good that defense is to

737
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 6: be able to stifle a Kyle Shanahan offense like that. Right,

738
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 6: and the Rams, who were the kind of the front

739
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 6: runners all season, couldn't get it done either. I think

740
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 6: Seattle's gonna gonna run away with this thing.

741
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: Probably.

742
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 6: I would say thirty four seventeen something like that.

743
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: Jake, tell me what you liked about kind of Sam

744
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: Darnell coming into his own someone who's bounced around a

745
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: little bit. Uh, see, guys, so I got a chance

746
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: to see him in college. But he's had a hell

747
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: of a season. What if you liked about the step

748
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: he's made this season?

749
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 4: I just love that. I mean, he's he's been through it,

750
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 4: you know, so there's nothing that is gonna get him down.

751
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 4: He's been through tons of adversity, he's been on multiple teams.

752
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 4: When you get to to run the offense that I'm

753
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 4: watching them run at Seattle, it's very reminiscent of what

754
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 4: we did here with with Gary Kubiak as the offensive coordinator,

755
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 4: when I came in here for three years, man, we

756
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 4: were a machine. In that third year, we were damn

757
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 4: near unstoppable. We could do whatever we wanted, running it,

758
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 4: play action, deep balls, quick throws. That West Coast offense

759
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 4: was amazing. So his son, Clinton has definitely evolved and

760
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 4: kept some of that along with his own creativity, and

761
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 4: he's putting Sam in position to do with. Sam does well.

762
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 4: And Sam's a very good thrower and in fact, sometimes

763
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 4: it reminds me of myself because there's no play he

764
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 4: doesn't think he can make, you know, And even in

765
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 4: the game against the LA he put a couple of

766
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 4: balls into some double coverage when he probably, oh, don't

767
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 4: throw that, But that's just him wanting to plays doing

768
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 4: his thing. When you have the weapons like he has

769
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 4: around it, it's it's it's absolutely paramount that he is

770
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 4: fearless because you count on those guys out there to

771
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 4: make your fifty to fifty ball become, you know, an

772
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 4: eighty twenty ball or a ninety ten ball, like, Okay,

773
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 4: I trust my guys. I'm gonna put it out there

774
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 4: because they want it just as bad as everybody else.

775
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 4: And really really nice to see him have success I

776
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 4: loved him in college. I think he's definitely settled into

777
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 4: a great pocket passer. And don't don't forget his mobility, man,

778
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,959
Speaker 4: Like he can move ye yep, going on the run,

779
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 4: getting out of the pocket like that's that's that one

780
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 4: more aspect that this big stage like the super Bowl,

781
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 4: you know, watch out. He could have some really huge

782
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 4: plays with his legs too.

783
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Sam Darnold twenty eight and six over the last

784
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: two seasons. That's the most win by any quarterback. Wow. Yeah,

785
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: it shows you, man.

786
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 6: Like a lot of times, these quarterbacks they get drafted

787
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 6: real high, they have a couple of tough years.

788
00:37:58,760 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: They get written off.

789
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 6: You know, people are like, ah, these guys, they're never

790
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 6: going to be any good. They get moved. Well, Sam

791
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 6: Donold's been resilient. It just shows you what kind of

792
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 6: guy he is. Right, He's been through the adversity, He's

793
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 6: been written off, He's bounced around to multiple teams. He

794
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 6: did get to spend a year under coach Shanahan right

795
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 6: with the Niners and kind of understand how to process

796
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 6: things and set things up and move guys with your

797
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 6: eyes and be patient and learn how to read defenses

798
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 6: like Jake knows a lot better than I do about that.

799
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 6: But but yeah, man, I mean and as a you know,

800
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 6: as a guy on that team, you see a leader

801
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 6: like that who's been through it, who's who's who's you know,

802
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 6: walked through the fire, who's faced adversity and is now

803
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 6: standing there in front of you guys dealing like that.

804
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 1: It's inspiring for everyone.

805
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 6: It doesn't always have to start off perfect in your career,

806
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 6: but you stick with it, and especially for quarterback, there's

807
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 6: so many compartments you got to master to be good

808
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 6: at the position.

809
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, I mean Bo has like had two years

810
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 4: of amazing you know, so this is adversity for him

811
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 4: to be injured, you know, like this is his first

812
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 4: real like oh my goodness. But but you alluded to it.

813
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 4: It's like his team loves him and QB number one.

814
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 4: You got to be a guy with your guys. You

815
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 4: got to be right in the midst of it and

816
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 4: still be that man that's number two in the organization,

817
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 4: but be able to sit and relate to the whole team.

818
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 4: And that's what Sam's doing and that's what Bo's done,

819
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 4: and the good ones do it well.

820
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 6: I ard Tom Brady talking about this He's like, yeah,

821
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 6: you know, like your offensive lineman.

822
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: You know they're driving trucks and stuff. You gotta drive

823
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: a truck.

824
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 6: You know, you can't come in and driving Lamborghini. You

825
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 6: gotta be like those guys. You gotta eat what those

826
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 6: guys eat. You gotta be one of the dudes. Even

827
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 6: though you're not getting paid like one of the dudes.

828
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 6: You got to be one of the dudes. And I

829
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 6: think if you do that, you adopt that, it actually

830
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 6: pays dividends.

831
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: Jake, another big story, whether it be story conspiracy. Obviously

832
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 1: the Niners were hit with the injury bug this season,

833
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: and a lot of conspiracies going around, whether it's the

834
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: training staff, the strength coaches, or the electrical substation next

835
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: to the practice field and the stadium. Obviously, you're a

836
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: huge health and wellness guy and mind, body and spirit

837
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: or something. You definitely embody. What is your take on

838
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: why we keep dropping like flies over there in Santa Clara?

839
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, man, it's got injuries. I just

840
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 4: was thinking it was football because it's a physical sport

841
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 4: and guys, you know you're getting hit, You're getting you know,

842
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 4: piles of seven eight nine huge dudes landing on each other,

843
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,959
Speaker 4: and most of the time everybody jumps up and runs off.

844
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 4: And you know, we watch the game usually behind you know,

845
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 4: on our couch and a TV, or when you're at

846
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 4: the game in the stands, But when you get down

847
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 4: on the field, if you ever have the chance to

848
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 4: stand on a kick return and watch twenty two dudes,

849
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 4: just or twenty one, because a kicker doesn't really go

850
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 4: down there, but come running towards each other and just

851
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 4: and then they all jump up and run off. It's amazing.

852
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 4: Guys aren't hurt more often.

853
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: You know.

854
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 4: And so yeah, the injury bug is uh, it sucks, man,

855
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 4: it really is hard. But but good teams find ways

856
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 4: to to, you know, replace those guys. I mean, the

857
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 4: Broncos did it all year. They had their number one

858
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 4: player in defense, Sir Tan, go out for four weeks

859
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 4: and they had a guy come in, Abrams Drain that

860
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 4: came in and played really well. They had multiple positions

861
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,479
Speaker 4: where guys got hurt. And that's great coaching. That's having

862
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 4: guys prepared, that's having the right kind of guys that

863
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 4: are fine to sit the bench to wait for their opportunity.

864
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 4: But why is there so many injuries. You know, I

865
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 4: don't know. I mean they they got to look at that.

866
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 4: They got to understand, like they've made the changes for

867
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 4: these guys to succeed and be as healthy as possible.

868
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 4: It wasn't like when we reported to camp and had

869
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 4: two a days and had to run conditioning tests and

870
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 4: now all of a sudden, you got guys with tight

871
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 4: hammies pulling hammies and for what to prove you prepared

872
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 4: during the offseason. They've changed this completely. They they're so

873
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 4: focused on rest and recovery and performance that the injury

874
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 4: bug is I mean a kid go back, could go

875
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 4: back to just some bad mojo hanging around the organization,

876
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 4: Like talk to like the previous owners. What kind of

877
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 4: karma do they have hanging out? Because I believe in that,

878
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 4: you know, I believe that, you know, certain organizations that

879
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 4: don't win consistently or they have stuff like this pop

880
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 4: up could be something they're not doing right. You know,

881
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 4: there's something that they've done wrong in the past.

882
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: So what you're saying the Niners have bad mojo, bro,

883
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: they've been really the football guys aren't messing with us.

884
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 4: They could be or it could just be you know,

885
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 4: guys not taking care of business, you know, or it

886
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 4: could be the superstars.

887
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 6: There's also some really important players on the team, Fred

888
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 6: Warner and a soft tissue and you know, I read

889
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 6: the same thing you did about the electromagnetic waves and

890
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 6: how it degrades soft tissue into you know, ligaments, muscles

891
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 6: and things in your And it is right across the

892
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 6: street from where they practice every day. But there's also

893
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 6: like how do you practice, how fast do you practice?

894
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 6: What's your like routine through throughout the week. Is it

895
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 6: better to rest or is it better to go hard

896
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 6: because then you prepare yourself to go hard in the game,

897
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 6: or is it you know, So it's a delicate balance

898
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 6: in these new athletes, Like they have a lot they

899
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 6: put like trackers and censers on them and they can

900
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 6: see how fast they're running during practice and how much

901
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 6: they're running, and if it's too much, they pull them out.

902
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 6: And so they're tracking everything. These guys are doing their

903
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 6: hydration levels. They got like these sweat bands on it

904
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 6: practice a training camp, and after your practice, they take

905
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 6: the sweat band off and they give it to the

906
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 6: trainers and they measure all these sweat things in the

907
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 6: bands and stuff like that. So it's very advanced how

908
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 6: they're trying to keep these guys healthy. But then some

909
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 6: teams just get hit with a bug and some teams don't.

910
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 6: And I think, you know you have there has to

911
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 6: be a symbiosis between the head coach and the training

912
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 6: staff and the strength and coach coaches, and so they're

913
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 6: all on the same page. Sometimes when a coach has

914
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 6: been there for a while and he brings in a

915
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 6: new trainer or whatever, that can upset the balance a

916
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 6: little bit. That's happened here in Denver. Sean Payton has

917
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 6: been head coach of the Broncos, has been really good

918
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 6: about keeping guys healthy. And so they have a trainer here,

919
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 6: guy named Bo Lowry, who people love.

920
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: And you know, what are their methods.

921
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 6: I mean there's new there's new age methods that we

922
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 6: don't know what they're using, you know, So some guys

923
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 6: are getting stuck with needles to help out. There's some

924
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 6: drugs that are on the market off the market that

925
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 6: people take, PEP, Time's Recovery, HGA, all these cryout therapies, chambers,

926
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 6: red lasers, all this stuff. What works and what doesn't?

927
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 6: Do you do too much of it and then you

928
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 6: make yourself more susceptible. It's hard to tell, but the

929
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 6: Niners really got crushed.

930
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 4: Man and Bo Bo scrambled his ass off this year

931
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 4: and he runs one run to the left, gets tackled,

932
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 4: ankles broken. Shit happens on the field. I've had parents

933
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 4: and mothers. How can I make sure my son doesn't

934
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 4: get hurt or he's safe on the field. I'm like,

935
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 4: but don't play football. Don't let him play. You're gonna

936
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 4: get hurt. Be ready for your kid to come back

937
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 4: with a severe, serious injury at some point in his life.

938
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 4: If he's playing football. It's a rough ass sport, big

939
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 4: ass grown men hitting each other, and you're bound to

940
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 4: have injuries, and it sucks when it happens. It really

941
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 4: can can demoralize a team. But for them to go

942
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 4: as far as they did with all those injuries, it's

943
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 4: a It's a definite coaching staff is a good coaching staff.

944
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 4: There so good things in the future happening.

945
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: Obviously, we don't have a ton of time to get

946
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 1: in down this rabbit hole. But I think, Nate, everything

947
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: you touched on as far as just like the all

948
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: the goods it's in gadgets they have to read sweat

949
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: and fatigue and all this kind of stuff. I almost

950
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: I would love to just be around because I think,

951
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: obviously we're all coming from an older school where we

952
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: just killed ourselves in the preseason and then the season

953
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: was the prize. I think sometimes there's so much technology

954
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: that these guys possibly aren't training us. I don't blame

955
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: it on them, because they're following the technology that the

956
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: teams have them on, but in the offseason are they

957
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: kind of taking it a little too easy? For when

958
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: Because this happens to basketball too, so when the season comes,

959
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 1: like because basketball has had a ton of Achilles injuries

960
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: and acls, and obviously I think this newer generation of

961
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: athlete is getting hurt a lot more. I mean, you

962
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: can always pretty much count on back in the day

963
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: watching basketball that our stars were going to be there

964
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: during the playoffs and finals in the NFL, the stars

965
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: were there for the Super Bowl or the conference finals

966
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: in the in the Super Bowl, but it really seems

967
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: like now you really have to keep your fingers crossing

968
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: to your point, Jakes sports, you're gonna get hurt. But

969
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: I just wonder is there any science behind how hard

970
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: they're pushing their self in the off season compared to

971
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: when that that that the real season comes. Maybe their

972
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: body isn't ready for the wear and tear because they're

973
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 1: training a little differently in the off seasons.

974
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 6: I think there's an art to that as a coach,

975
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 6: to figure out how far to push and then pull back.

976
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 6: You got your scientists pet telling you, you know, maybe

977
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 6: this guy should pull back, but you see that he

978
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 6: actually needs to keep going because he needs to work

979
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 6: on this or work on that. I think also like

980
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 6: the young, like when you're a kid, now you get

981
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 6: private coaching. They're coaching your technique. You're becoming a robot, right,

982
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 6: You're becoming as fast as technically proficient. But it's not

983
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 6: your natural body lean like. It's taking the personality out

984
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 6: of your own movement and teaching you how to do

985
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 6: it in an optimized way. But it puts your body

986
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 6: in compromising positions, you know what I mean. So so

987
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, yeah I'm faster, Yeah I'm getting

988
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 6: it out of my breaks faster, but I'm also putting

989
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 6: more stress on my joints than I ever did before

990
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 6: when I didn't know how to run like that. You

991
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 6: know what I mean, so I think there's the technique

992
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 6: can put you in danger when you improve it. I mean,

993
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 6: I went from wide receiver to tight end. I had

994
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 6: to put on some weight to do it, and it

995
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 6: was a challenge, man, learning how to block these three

996
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 6: hundred pounds dues. I was telling you about Willie mcguinnis earlier.

997
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 6: I had to try to block that guy like I

998
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 6: was not. I was a wide receiver in in high

999
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 6: school and college. I can't block with Hi mcguinnis. The

1000
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,479
Speaker 6: only way I can do it is if I learned

1001
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 6: these techniques and learn how to shape my body in

1002
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 6: a way that's gonna do it. But my body don't

1003
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 6: want to go that way, you know. And so and

1004
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 6: so there was a lot of just like straining every

1005
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 6: element of my body to do the thing I was

1006
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 6: being asked to do that was putting me in peril.

1007
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 6: Tore my hamstring off the bone, toward my growing off

1008
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 6: the phone. Yeah, man, it was. It wasn't pretty. But

1009
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 6: I think just to optimize technique stuff. And then yes,

1010
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 6: some coaches just not working them hard enough. Sometimes you

1011
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 6: got to develop that callus. You got to get ready

1012
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 6: to hit. So a lot of coaches have these soft

1013
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 6: training camps where we're gonna save it for the regular season. Well,

1014
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 6: if these guys aren't ready to play in week one,

1015
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 6: they're gonna get smashed. They're gonna get hurt because they're not,

1016
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 6: they don't have that callous and they haven't you know,

1017
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 6: prepared enough in training camp to get it done. And

1018
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 6: I know back in the day, you know, they would

1019
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 6: have six weeks of training camp, but these but these

1020
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 6: guys would also have like be selling tires in the offseason,

1021
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 6: like they weren't making enough money, they had to have

1022
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 6: a second job. But they'd come in and get in

1023
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 6: shape for six weeks and then go out there and

1024
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 6: they'd be fine all season. Right, But the athletes bigger, faster, stronger,

1025
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 6: So it makes it kind of complicated and a lot richer, Yeah,

1026
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 6: a lot richer.

1027
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 4: I have to say, Like, my off season didn't consist

1028
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 4: of quarterbacking for four months getting ready to go play quarterback.

1029
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 4: I jumped on my mountain bike, I played handball. I

1030
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 4: did everything you could imagine away from football. And I

1031
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 4: think today's athlete is so geared to like more is

1032
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 4: better that I don't know how many of them actually

1033
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 4: get away and do something different. Than you know, the

1034
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 4: normal stuff to train for their position, and I think

1035
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 4: that can create redundancy, that can create habits in your

1036
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 4: body that you don't break. I would play hoops any

1037
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 4: chance I could get in the offseason. That was my conditioning.

1038
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 4: I mean I would run hoops and play and run,

1039
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 4: and so my body was ready to cut and accelerate

1040
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 4: and do these other things. Now it was just a

1041
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 4: football was in my hand. So I think the specialization

1042
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 4: and even just the training specialization where you're spending hours

1043
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 4: after hour with your guru working on quarterbacking like man,

1044
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 4: I didn't do any of that shit in summer.

1045
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: Man.

1046
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 4: I was playing tennis, I was playing hoops. I was

1047
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 4: riding my mountain bike. I was throwing frisbees, I was

1048
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 4: climbing trees. I was doing all kinds of stuff clumb trees.

1049
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 4: So diversification of your body so you're not just training

1050
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 4: one thing I think could lead to some of this.

1051
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 4: And it's not like the athletes now when you get

1052
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 4: to the league. Yeah, you do need to focus. This

1053
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 4: is happening with young kids. I meet them all the time.

1054
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 4: What sports do you play? Oh? Football? Do you do

1055
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 4: anything else? No, you don't play hoops or go play

1056
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 4: tennis or anything, or ride your bike. Not really, oh

1057
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 4: good luck, so good luck.

1058
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 6: There's also a funny thing Sean Payton said to a

1059
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 6: couple of weeks ago, towards the end of the season.

1060
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 6: He's talking about how guys don't really drink anymore. They

1061
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 6: don't really go out, they don't like party, they don't

1062
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 6: like you know, so guys don't get in trouble anymore.

1063
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 6: They're taking care of their bodies, they're getting their rest,

1064
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 6: they're doing the right thing, you know, they're not going

1065
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 6: out getting caught on cell phones messing around. But at

1066
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 6: the same time, like they live a different life. I

1067
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 6: mean when I played, when we played, we.

1068
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: Went out, we had fun. That was part of it, right,

1069
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: I mean you got definitely part of it. Yes, that

1070
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: was the point.

1071
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 6: That's why we worked so hard so we could do

1072
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 6: that too.

1073
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: They don't. It's easier for them now because most of

1074
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: the time we were going down party, we were hunting.

1075
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: Now they don't have to hunt. With social media. Social media,

1076
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: they can pull up in the city and know what

1077
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: the play is before they put their little antenna's out.

1078
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: But anyway, we could talk about this all day. The

1079
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: NFL coaching carousel. A lot of guys are moving around.

1080
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: Particularly want to touch on Mike Tomlin has stepped down

1081
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 1: with the Steelers, and Mike McCarthy is in. Tomlin nineteen years,

1082
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 1: two hundred and one and twenty six and two career record,

1083
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: and then McCarthy's last stop with the Cowboys forty nine

1084
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: and thirty five. Fellas, we don't see it in any

1085
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: sport rarely anymore, when these coaches with this longevity. Tomlin

1086
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: is one of the last of a dying breed. I

1087
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: think all leagues recycle do coaches a lot faster. Now,

1088
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: what are your guys' thoughts on Tomlin stepping down and

1089
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy stepping in.

1090
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 4: Tomlin's a great coach. I mean, he's been doing it,

1091
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 4: you said, one of the longest tenured guys out there.

1092
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 4: Will he go back to being a head coach somewhere

1093
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 4: you know who knows. I'm sure he'll find a job.

1094
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 4: McCarthy is interesting. He was. He was a guy I

1095
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 4: got to know early in my career at the Senior Bowl.

1096
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 4: He was on the Kansas City staff way back then,

1097
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 4: and so it was cool to kind of hear see

1098
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 4: his genius and his ability to coach and know the game,

1099
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 4: and then to watch him go become a head coach.

1100
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 4: It's funny when they get recycled. You know, I almost think,

1101
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 4: you know, what, can't we get can't anybody come up

1102
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 4: new with some new ideas. I mean, we got Shanahan's

1103
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 4: kid doing successfully, and then everybody that coached under him,

1104
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 4: and then Sean Payton comes and coaches here. It's not

1105
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 4: easy being a head coach because there's more involved than

1106
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 4: just x's and o's. You got to be a politician

1107
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 4: and to some degree, so it takes a different sort

1108
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 4: of man, a very type, a organized on it kind

1109
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 4: of guy. So who knows, man, I wish some all success.

1110
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 4: Who knows who Arizona's going to hire. Hopefully they can

1111
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 4: find a way to win. But yeah, the coaching care

1112
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 4: sales begun.

1113
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, we saw it with Josh McDaniels, an incredible coordinator,

1114
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 6: came to the Broncos, was an awful head coach, got

1115
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 6: another job as a coordinator, went to the Raiders as

1116
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 6: a head coach, burned that place down. Now he's coordinating

1117
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 6: in the Super Bowl with the Patriots. He's back doing

1118
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 6: what he does well. But as far as being a

1119
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 6: leader of men, doing what Jake just said, being the overseer,

1120
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 6: the CEO who understands all the compartments, who can look

1121
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,959
Speaker 6: you in the eye and give you the bad news

1122
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 6: if it's bad news, or give it to you straight,

1123
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 6: or make those tough decisions. Some guys don't have that.

1124
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 6: But at the same time, the guys like Tomlin and

1125
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 6: when we were here Mike Shanahan. I was here when

1126
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 6: Mike Shanahan got fired. He had been here for fourteen years.

1127
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 6: Shocked all of us that he got fired. But sometimes

1128
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 6: these coaches who have super long tenures, their message gets

1129
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 6: a little stale. You kind of know what they're gonna say,

1130
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 6: like they kind of you know. They don't connect with

1131
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 6: the younger guys as well. It is a weird generation

1132
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 6: now of younger dudes who are on some different shit right,

1133
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 6: And so it's like a lot of time you see

1134
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 6: a lot of these younger coaches getting hired because of that.

1135
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 6: Like guys in the thirties, you can connect with it.

1136
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 6: You got to be able to relate. I think you

1137
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 6: said it perfect there.

1138
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: And again, you guys know the football side, I know

1139
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: the basketball, but you have to relate to these younger

1140
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 1: players because one, like I said earlier, it used to

1141
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: be when we came in, the coach was to say

1142
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: all be all his way or the highway. Now these

1143
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: players in all these make too much money, so you're

1144
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: you're talking to someone the wrong way, or you have

1145
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: a funky couple week run, like, there's a possibility you

1146
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: could be gone sooner than later. So I definitely think

1147
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: being a leader of men one. But I think being

1148
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: able to relate to this generation because you can't. You

1149
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: can't yell and scream and cuss and have repetitive messages

1150
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 1: the way they used to do us and the generations before.

1151
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: This new generation does not having that shit. No.

1152
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fifty two to fifty three different personalities. Man,

1153
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 4: you got to manage it well. And Sean Payton is

1154
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 4: great because he's very into like the psychology behind things too,

1155
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 4: so he's really good at at managing that. But you

1156
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 4: got to have a leader. You got to have tone

1157
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 4: setters on the team. You gotta have guys that set

1158
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 4: down the precedent that the team follows. Because here in

1159
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 4: the coach every day gets old. You got to have

1160
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 4: leaders and quarterbacks and linebackers and badass mofos that set

1161
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 4: down the what is going to happen on any good

1162
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 4: championship team?

1163
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, you saw with the Nuggets last year here when

1164
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 6: Michael Malone getting fired, right, and then Adaman taking over.

1165
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 6: Adam in a young cat who's like an assistant that

1166
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 6: everyone liked and con vibe with, and Michael Malone won

1167
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 6: them a championship a couple of years ago, and all

1168
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 6: of a sudden he's.

1169
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: Gone right right before a playoff run.

1170
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 6: And you do have Nicola Yogause, you do have leaders

1171
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 6: in that locker room who can who can be the best?

1172
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, give me five quarterbacks, you guys feel confident

1173
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: that'll be in the mix next year to make a

1174
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: run at the super Bowl. Five quarterbacks? Well, hard to say.

1175
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 6: And you know not to put in the guys who

1176
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 6: were just doing it right now, like Sam Darnold and

1177
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 6: Matt Stafford. If he's if he's still playing, playing at

1178
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 6: a super high level. I don't know if Drake may

1179
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 6: is going to continue to have the success he has.

1180
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 6: We'll see what happens in the super Bowl there. Jake

1181
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 6: and I were both, you know, not super impressible what

1182
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 6: we saw from him on Sunday, but it was the

1183
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 6: weather was kind of crazy.

1184
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Bow nixt man.

1185
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,959
Speaker 6: I think this this team is ready to continue doing

1186
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 6: what they're doing on that side. And I think Josh Allen,

1187
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 6: Josh Allen is still gonna be giving it the old

1188
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 6: college try.

1189
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: He needs some pieces, he needs some pieces he does.

1190
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 1: He does.

1191
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 4: Same with bo Bow needs some pieces he does. But

1192
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 4: I like, I really like Caleb Williams. I think that

1193
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 4: that kid, he's a baller, he's a his team loves him.

1194
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,240
Speaker 4: He's got talent, arm talent, he can run. I really

1195
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 4: like what I've seen from him and just a little

1196
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 4: bit that I've watched. Uh, definitely a guy I'm gonna

1197
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 4: keep eyes on moving forward because you get a guy

1198
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 4: like that, it can build something pretty special, especially in

1199
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 4: a town like Chicago. And the things he's saying and

1200
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 4: how he says it, you know, post game it's all

1201
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 4: about his team and like it's authentic. It seems to

1202
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 4: be real from my viewpoint. So that with Josh Allen,

1203
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 4: and I'm looking for Lamar Jackson to have a big

1204
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 4: bounce back next year.

1205
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: Man.

1206
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 4: You know, it's hard to not watch him in the

1207
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 4: playoffs because the guy does stuff you do not see happen.

1208
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 4: It's like watching Randall again.

1209
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: I know you.

1210
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 4: Randall was a guest on your Guy's show a while back. Man,

1211
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 4: that guy's poster was on my wall. I just wanted

1212
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 4: to be as athletic as that dude. And you got

1213
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,439
Speaker 4: a guy like Lamar that's doing stuff you've never seen

1214
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 4: done before. It's hard when you don't get to see

1215
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 4: him be on that stage. But he'll have a bounce

1216
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 4: back next year. Watch out for the Ravens.

1217
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: Agreed. Agreed, Jakie, you're a pretty goddamn athletic yourself, though.

1218
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 4: Yes, somewhat. I didn't get a chance to punt, though, Man,

1219
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 4: I wish I could have.

1220
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: You know, it's like climbing trees.

1221
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 4: I did punt one time. Jeff Fiegels got hurt my

1222
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 4: rookie year, and my QB coaches like, weren't you an

1223
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 4: all state punter in high school? I was like yeah,

1224
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 4: He's like, well you could be our punter today. So

1225
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 4: I went out and I was yanking on it, just

1226
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 4: kicking it, and Jeff Fiagels is back there laughing. I said,

1227
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 4: what are you laughing at? He goes, Man, you're gonna

1228
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 4: be sore tomorrow.

1229
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: I was like or whatever.

1230
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 4: I couldn't even walk the next day. Man, my whole

1231
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 4: right side was killing me. But yeah, man, you got

1232
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 4: to be an athlete to play quarterback. You gotta have

1233
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 4: the best hands on the team. You got to be

1234
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 4: the most athletic and maybe not the best at everything,

1235
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 4: but you better be able to play some ping pong

1236
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 4: and rally and be able to hold your own. That's

1237
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 4: what they want to see, see if you can hold

1238
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 4: your own.

1239
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: You guys get a chance before we get out of here.

1240
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: Did you guys get a chance to see that Lway documentary? Yeah?

1241
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it.

1242
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 4: It's really good.

1243
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,479
Speaker 1: You gotta check that out, Nate. That shit was dope. Yeah.

1244
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 6: I mean, like you know, being around here, being around

1245
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 6: the team, talking about the team, you kind of start

1246
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 6: to hear all those stories. But I got to check

1247
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 6: it out and see him put it all together like that.

1248
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 6: I mean, we all haven't seen an athlete like John Elway

1249
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 6: come out, you know, number one draft pick and then

1250
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 6: fulfill the prophecy like that, right, That rarely happens.

1251
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: So, uh, he's a legend around here, man.

1252
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 6: I mean when I first got here, I got traded

1253
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 6: here from the Niners in the Middle training camp in

1254
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 6: two thousand and three. And I rolled up to training

1255
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 6: camp and there's this road called a Rapahole Road out here.

1256
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 6: It has a bunch of car dealerships. And it was

1257
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 6: John Elway Toyota John Lway for John Lwa Johnway everything here, man,

1258
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 6: I mean, he is god around here. Peyton Manning tried

1259
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 6: to come in and be like, what about me? So

1260
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 6: they like Peyton too, and they're starting to start to

1261
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 6: like bo and they love this guy too.

1262
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: But this is quarterback heaven here. But John Elway is

1263
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:41,919
Speaker 1: the king.

1264
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 4: Yeah. That that documentary was amazing just to I really

1265
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,919
Speaker 4: enjoyed watching him open up, you know, like to open

1266
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 4: up and share stories, and even to see him tear up,

1267
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 4: even though he fought it back. But to see, you know,

1268
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 4: someone you don't expect like that to show those emotions.

1269
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 4: He couldn't help it. And you know that helps men

1270
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 4: in all phases to be able to see someone like

1271
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 4: John Elway show that he can cry and feel that emotion.

1272
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 4: It's all right, you know, it's all right to show

1273
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 4: it and feel it. And he's been through a lot, man,

1274
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 4: He's been through a lot. I looked up to him

1275
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 4: as a youngster, and then when I got here to

1276
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 4: not fill his shoes because Greasey was the stop gap

1277
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 4: between me and him. I just embodied that. I said,

1278
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 4: I'm not John Elway, and I ain't gonna play here

1279
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 4: for sixteen years and I'm ready to go win now.

1280
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 4: John didn't win, or I mean, he had a lot

1281
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 4: of expectations. He had some rough seasons, yeah, but he

1282
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 4: showed toughness, he played his ass off, his teammates loved him,

1283
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 4: and all in all, when you're QB number one, you're

1284
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 4: gonna have more success than not if you just go

1285
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 4: out there and play your ass off and be a

1286
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 4: competitive mofo and not give a shit what anybody thinks

1287
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 4: except those guys around you.

1288
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I think, are you know the heroes we

1289
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: watched growing up, there was no social media, so to

1290
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: be able to see him open up or MJ open

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Speaker 1: up with his documentary, when we get to see our

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Speaker 1: heroes open up, and that there's always so much great

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Speaker 1: unseen footage and stories. Man, I really I binge watched

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Speaker 1: that doc I really enjoyed that documentary. Fellas Hee. Tell

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Speaker 1: everyone where they can find your podcast. That's on Gorilla Sports.

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Speaker 1: You can check us out Gorilla sports dot net.

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Speaker 6: But it's also we have it on YouTube, we have

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Speaker 6: it on x, Instagram, TikTok, all those places that we

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Speaker 6: clip it up and you can see it out there.

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Speaker 6: But it's Gorilla Sports like you see in the back here.

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Speaker 6: G U E R I L L A and uh.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna continue doing some some stuff trying to piggyback

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Speaker 6: off what y'all are doing.

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Speaker 1: Man, I love it. I love it, Jake. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: send you my new number and let me know if

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Speaker 1: you guys need.

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Speaker 4: Me right on, matt We appreciate it. Man, If you

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Speaker 4: need anything from us, just reach out. We're here. Get

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Speaker 4: ready to go do our walk through here in a minute.

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Speaker 1: That's right there, you go. Well, I appreciate it, fellas.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your time and enjoy the rest of

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Speaker 1: your day. Thanks Mattie's love and mushrooms. That's a wrap.

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Speaker 1: You can catch us on all the Smokes YouTube and

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Speaker 1: the DraftKings Network. See y'all next week.