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Speaker 1: The Boys. Welcome to another episode of Bust with the Boys.

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Speaker 1: I am your host Will Compton, co host Tayl Lawan.

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Speaker 1: You already know the deal. My man's in training camp,

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Speaker 1: the off days, the games of scheduling as sometimes things

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Speaker 1: just don't line up. My man he obviously eats Sleepspreez

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Speaker 1: football right now, so when he has an off day, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: his family's a priority over the bus. But welcome to

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Speaker 1: Now weekend update, it's a fun we can you guys,

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Speaker 1: Do you guys enjoy your weekend?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Can we get a little bit more? The energy's a

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Speaker 2: little like low right now.

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Speaker 1: Like I just told everybody to comment pro vibes or

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Speaker 1: I'm here for the vibes, like we need to have

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Speaker 1: some vibes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Monday caught us real quick. Are you tired?

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's tired or it's a tough

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Speaker 4: feeling to describe.

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Speaker 1: Your boys did go out on Saturday night? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: because the group chat was lit up. Group chat was

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Speaker 1: lit up. Jack, you already knew what vibe he was on. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you could feel the energy in the group chat. You too,

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Speaker 1: you're traveling, You're like, oh, I'm over in this area

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Speaker 2: I'm ready to go travel to you guys. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if that happened.

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Speaker 3: It happened.

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Speaker 4: And then Taylor iris Shaggs did after we said what's

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Speaker 4: up to each other, he was like, hey, may go

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Speaker 1: So if the game got over with for everybody listening,

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Speaker 1: the game got over with the Titans one and you know,

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Speaker 1: the vibes are obviously elite at all times with the boys,

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Speaker 1: So Taylor was seeing like where everybody was at afterwards,

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Speaker 1: just to go say what's up apparently, and then Jack

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Speaker 2: Was it were you on Demumbrian.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, JP was over in the Dumumbrian area and Taylor

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Speaker 3: I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting at home, I forget what I'm watching and

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Speaker 1: just thinking like, oh, these.

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Speaker 2: Boys are about to like have a long night.

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Speaker 3: Oh not really didn't go that way, No, it was.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't a long night. Oh it was.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Did it end up at uh because Taylor had some

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Speaker 6: the game, and Uh, Taylor's like, yeah, I'm gonna pull up,

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Speaker 6: and I was like, yeah, he's not coming.

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Speaker 5: He just played, but he showed up.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think he was going either. I'm like, do

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Speaker 2: you really want to go out?

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Speaker 1: Like I really want to go downtown after a Titans game,

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Speaker 1: like big doll?

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Speaker 3: You know, Taylor.

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Speaker 5: I know That's why I was a little shocked he

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Speaker 5: good sport. We got like a drink and then basically

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Speaker 5: that was the end of the night. And then yeah

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Speaker 2: You showed up, you made your way across and then

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but uh is to his.

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Speaker 4: Credit, he came down and he got me. I was

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Speaker 4: able to skip the line. I got the Taylor lawn treatment,

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Speaker 4: which huge shout out to him for that.

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Speaker 2: Is that a ship.

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Speaker 3: That's just the problem is.

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Speaker 1: That your shoutout, no free shoutout likes getting to skip

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Speaker 1: the lion that's in decent.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have to cut this gidding just added to

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Speaker 2: You know, a line.

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Speaker 3: But yeah no, so shout out of tailor firm looking

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the boys they got uh did they win the

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Speaker 1: first preseason game?

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Speaker 2: We lost?

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's right, because we were trying to hand him

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Speaker 1: the first preseason loss ever. Because that matters. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: won like twenty two straight. I love seeing everybody just

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Speaker 1: it's obviously they got a long streak going. You're going

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Speaker 1: if preseason fucking mattered. It's like, hey, I think the

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Speaker 1: I think Adam Schefter is just trying to deliver, like

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Speaker 1: just some news for the boys, some positive vibes. Everyone

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Speaker 1: just gets all up in arms about it. I thought

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Speaker 1: we would dethrone them. We didn't, but the boys.

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Speaker 3: Got a dub. They look good.

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Speaker 2: Taylor, he got to he got to splash a little bit.

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Speaker 2: He was out there for like six plays.

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Speaker 1: I had a nice little chuckle because you know, starters,

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Speaker 1: like when the majority of starters aren't playing in a

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Speaker 1: preseason game, you obviously don't want to play in the

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Speaker 1: you're going like, there's just a part of you that's like, fuck, man, Like, God,

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Speaker 1: do I really got to go out there for however

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Speaker 1: many plays I gotta do it. You're like hoping it's

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Speaker 1: not a full quarter. You know, you don't know how

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Speaker 1: long it is. You don't want to ask because you

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Speaker 3: Kind of just let it ride.

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Speaker 1: And then right like right before basically like when you're

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Speaker 1: And they's just thinking, fuck it, dude, let's go out

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Speaker 1: here and try to let's go out here and try

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Speaker 1: to claim a soul, claim a body before I go

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Speaker 1: out and Uh, the boy played solid. He had you know,

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Speaker 1: of course six plays he's playing against I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't even think he was playing against like the

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Speaker 2: In the past game, he.

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Speaker 1: Went out for a play because it looks like his

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Speaker 1: little finger that he's messed with was like out of

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Speaker 1: goes back in preseason game preseason game at that like, dude,

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Speaker 1: just say some guys, you get a little you want

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Speaker 1: something like that to happen. You're like, all right, here's

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Speaker 2: But the boys a dog. He goes back in.

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Speaker 1: He tries to like as he's trying to go out

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Speaker 1: that one play he goes back in. Then he see

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Speaker 1: old boy block. He's trying to like block with one arm.

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Speaker 1: I feel supremely confident talking about this too, because I

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Speaker 1: haven't even really seen Taylor, like I've just we've been

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Speaker 1: in our group chat and stuff. So it's like one

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Speaker 1: of those things to where I'm sitting here as I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about him playing in his performance and everything like that,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking like, oh shit, or is somebody gonna listen

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Speaker 1: to this and be like, hey, Will shouldn't talk about X,

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Speaker 1: Y and Z. But it's kind of like fuck it, man, like, yeah, yea,

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Speaker 1: we do. We went on this bus man. The boy's

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Speaker 1: not here. It's all clean, it's all good fun. But

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Speaker 1: the boy's got a w everybody's excited about the Malik

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Speaker 1: Willas stuff. Yeah, you know, I haven't watched enough tape.

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Speaker 1: Like after the first quarter happened, I was like, all right,

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Speaker 1: what am I doing now?

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Speaker 3: Jack?

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Speaker 1: Jack was there like that was like that was you

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Speaker 1: were in game day for him?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess Radar boy buck Rising.

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Speaker 2: It was fun.

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Speaker 5: It's just gonna be back.

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Speaker 3: In the sun weather. It was great.

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Speaker 6: Me and Gary both were there, so just getting a

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Speaker 6: he's saying the first quarter kind of tails off a bit.

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Speaker 5: It was insane. I lost my voice.

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Speaker 6: In like one yell out of nowhere in the first quarter,

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Speaker 6: and Garret's like, what the fuck happened?

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Speaker 5: Like I I was.

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Speaker 2: Talking like this now you're still kind of coming.

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Speaker 3: Back from no.

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Speaker 6: But then I went and got a water, took a swig,

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Speaker 6: and ten minutes later my voice was completely back. And

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Speaker 6: I don't know, my voice just seems a little raspy.

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Speaker 6: I'm with JP. I'm kind of in this weird like

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Speaker 6: I don't know if I'm tired or if it's like

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Speaker 6: there's some in the I feel like today.

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Speaker 1: But we got to pick the vibes up, like we're

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Speaker 1: pushing Yeah, we're pushing through when people come to the

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Speaker 1: We got this one, which is fucking badass, probably the

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. The whole Boys merch last year

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Speaker 7: You didn't hold up the Tennessee Titans one very well,

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Speaker 1: sitting over there looking at all the different products. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna grab this. I'm gonna grab that. There's one

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Speaker 1: thing that I've grabbed that might be my favorite. Now

443
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Speaker 1: it's definitely it might be my favorite scent. My wife

444
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Speaker 1: loves it. Anytime we're anytime, you know, we have a

445
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Speaker 1: nice little submish. She just raves about this smell from

446
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Speaker 1: the face wash, bro the face wash, the coal mining

447
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Speaker 1: face wash.

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Speaker 3: Where it's like I don't know what.

449
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Speaker 1: I don't know what the sin is or the ingredients

450
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Speaker 1: in it, but the coal mining face wash, dude, it

451
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Speaker 1: smells incredible.

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Speaker 2: I came and got the deodor, and I came and

453
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Speaker 2: got like.

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Speaker 1: The travel bag, like we're over here shopping in our

455
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Speaker 1: warehouse with the Duke Cannon product. But I grabbed the

456
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Speaker 1: face wash because I'm like, all right, I need a

457
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Speaker 1: face walk. I always do the thing where I take

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Speaker 1: the face wash into the shower and then I leave

459
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Speaker 1: it in there, and then at nighttime I need to

460
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Speaker 1: go into the shower and grab it.

461
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Speaker 2: So I need one in both spots.

462
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Speaker 1: But the coal mining, the coal miners face wash, dude,

463
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Speaker 1: that is that's my hitter right now.

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Speaker 3: That's the vibe I'm on. You can go to uh you.

465
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Speaker 1: Can check out Duke Cannon at any target or go

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Speaker 1: That is Duke Cannon dot Com using code busting. Back

469
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Speaker 1: to the episode, boss Baby, we haven't seen you in

470
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Speaker 1: a while. Kick this thing off, brother.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a while.

472
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Speaker 8: I know, Like he's like, this is game and I

473
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Speaker 8: love it.

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Speaker 9: Uh My shout out. This week, I went to my

475
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Speaker 9: first Nashville SC game. I was I was completely surprising.

476
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Speaker 9: I'll get to my shout out, but I want to

477
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Speaker 9: shout out Larry and j Pollard for hooking me up

478
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Speaker 9: with their season tickets. It was really nice of them,

479
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Speaker 9: so I appreciate that, but I didn't My expectations for

480
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Speaker 9: the game were pretty low. I'm not the biggest soccer fan.

481
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Speaker 9: Like it's probably one of the one of the games

482
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Speaker 9: I watched the least. But going to that Nashville s

483
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Speaker 9: C game, like, it was probably better than any any

484
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Speaker 9: football stadium I've ever been in. And I know that's

485
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Speaker 9: a hot take, and I know people are probably gonna

486
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Speaker 9: be upset about that, but like, that stadium did not

487
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Speaker 9: stop rocking the entire time. On top of that, they

488
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Speaker 9: went up four zero and just completely dominated.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying the Nashville SC game, Oh, the atmosphere

490
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Speaker 1: was more than any football game.

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Speaker 9: Any football I've ever game I've ever been to, right

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Speaker 9: here in Nashville, Right here in Nashville. I was locked

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Speaker 9: in the entire game because of that crowd.

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Speaker 2: It was unreal, damn.

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Speaker 9: And my shout out is to those those events that

496
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Speaker 9: far exceed your expectations.

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Speaker 2: MM, that's my shadow. That was good.

498
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Speaker 3: That was a good one. That was a good one.

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Speaker 2: Brother.

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Speaker 1: I'll have to check that out because that's you said that.

501
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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, let's let's pump the brakes. But

502
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Speaker 1: everybody's back there, not in their heads.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy. I was shocked.

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Speaker 1: So you were in the shot, he went, Garrett Jack,

505
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Speaker 1: who's holding the mic?

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Speaker 2: Who we got next?

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Speaker 3: I'll go real.

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Speaker 7: Quick, my shout out, no free shout out. I was

509
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Speaker 7: going to go to a money hooker for rocking the

510
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Speaker 7: boys merch on game little throwback piece, but I was

511
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Speaker 7: when I saw that, I was like.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's go.

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Speaker 1: I know, like when the boys are bought in, there's

514
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Speaker 1: just like a different energy, Like when you see the

515
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Speaker 1: athletes rock and the merchandise and Taylor.

516
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Speaker 7: Wore his IT Wars Michigan gear. Appreciate him wearing the

517
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Speaker 7: new unreleased stuff. But when I saw many, I.

518
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Speaker 1: Was like, yeah, yeah, it's like Taylor, like this is

519
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,919
Speaker 1: your business as well, so you should be rocking the

520
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 1: merch Well, when you see the athletes bought in for

521
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Speaker 1: the photo ops like that gets you going bro yep,

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Speaker 1: that's my shut up Jack, light it up.

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Speaker 2: I know you've been waiting on this thing.

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Speaker 6: Uh, my mind's pretty simple this week. But it's something

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Speaker 6: that I never take for granted, and it is shout

526
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Speaker 6: out no for shadowt to like long hot showers.

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Speaker 5: Yesterday I was seeing a little tough after the game.

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Speaker 6: But dude, I will sit in a shower if I

529
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Speaker 6: don't have to worry about it, like the water getting

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Speaker 6: cold or just paying for water in general. Like if

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Speaker 6: I'm at a hotel, I'll sit in that bitch for

532
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Speaker 6: like an hour and it's just so nice. It kind

533
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Speaker 6: of like falls in long with like my steam room

534
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Speaker 6: take the other other week.

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Speaker 5: But like sitting a long hot shower is just.

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Speaker 6: Like it's like the full reset kind of just like

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Speaker 6: disappear from the world for a minute and now have

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Speaker 6: to think you just like letting the water hit you.

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Speaker 6: And I just anytime I have the opportunity to take

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Speaker 6: a nice line hot shower, you know, yeah, shout out

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Speaker 6: water and shout out easy accessible water. So we're very

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Speaker 6: fortunate that we have these these incredible facilities that is,

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Speaker 6: you know, my bathroom.

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Speaker 5: So shout out to hot showers.

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Speaker 1: All right, man, Hell yeah, JP, let's go brother all right,

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Speaker 1: my shout out, no free shout out.

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Speaker 4: I can't decide if this is going to go to

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Speaker 4: the driver or the animal.

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Speaker 3: But it's when you're driving. You like, how this is starting.

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00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's when you're driving and a squirrel or something

551
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Speaker 4: runs out at the last minute in front of your

552
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Speaker 4: car and you make a move and then you're like,

553
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Speaker 4: did I hit it? Look back and you can see

554
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Speaker 4: it still alive. You're like, oh, thank god, Like I

555
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 4: still got it. I'm sharp on the wheel. But at

556
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Speaker 4: the same time, it could also go to the shoutout,

557
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Speaker 4: could go to the squirrel like being elusive.

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Speaker 1: No brother, word that I am not gonna say. But

559
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: them boys are pure idiots when they run in the road.

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Speaker 1: Those animals fucking run in the middle of the road

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Speaker 1: and will stop and they you know, they might be

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Speaker 1: in a panic, but it's like, yo, just fucking there's

563
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Speaker 1: vehicles coming everywhere.

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Speaker 2: You gotta time that road. You got to time up

565
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Speaker 2: that cross, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Like you you could be a shout out to the animal,

567
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 1: Like not at all, bro, It couldn't be dumber. When

568
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Speaker 1: they get in the road, They get in the road

569
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Speaker 1: and just freeze and will turn in like look like, oh,

570
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Speaker 1: this is coming about to end my life, and you

571
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Speaker 1: basically just maneuver like you might hit another car, an.

572
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Speaker 2: Animal runs down, I go, this fucking idiot.

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Speaker 4: Just fuck so shout out to the driver. Then shout

574
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Speaker 4: out to the driver. For sure, shout out to evading

575
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Speaker 4: animals running across.

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Speaker 1: But that's ultimately like you want to shout out the

577
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Speaker 1: animal because you're you're like, you love animals. I'm from

578
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Speaker 1: the heart, so shut out them, animals out.

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Speaker 3: That's animals.

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Speaker 1: My shout out and no for shut out of the

581
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Speaker 1: week goes to just filled up my gas tank, and

582
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: there's like that level of.

583
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 2: Pride of I.

584
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 1: Wish people could understand my untapped potential when you consistently

585
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: drop that gas right on the dollar sign you're trying

586
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: to hit, so you fill it up, and it's like

587
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 1: fifty bucks.

588
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 3: When you hit that fifteen and you see that.

589
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Speaker 1: Five zero dot zero zero, you know, you kind of

590
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: look around with pride. It's the samest like the microwave, Like

591
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: you always try and time the microwave. However, the microwave,

592
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 1: it's almost like it's almost like this impossible feat that

593
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: you'll always go after. But something with the technology won't

594
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: really ever allow it to stop in the middle of

595
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: the beep. But on a gas tank you get to

596
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: see if you go over, you go beyond. So like

597
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: hitting that thing right at the number you were wanting,

598
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: and you might look and see if your wife or

599
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: somebody in the car like saw the same thing. Because

600
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: there's like a man, I have so much potential that

601
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: I still have to tap into that I wish the

602
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,959
Speaker 1: world could see. But my shout out, no free shoutout,

603
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: goes to you know, yeah, clicking that thing on that

604
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: that gasoline on them zeros so fucking stupid. All right,

605
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: So Packers fans, everything you've been waiting for, is this

606
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: a moment right now? Coach Lafleur, Coach Maisaccia, I'm so

607
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: fucking fired up. Not even Packers fans, but Raiders fans

608
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 1: probably Tapaway Buccaneers fans.

609
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 3: They got to experience Coach Pisaci.

610
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: Hear all the stories about this man, and I know

611
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: he went on a I know part of my take

612
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: on a snuck him on Grit Week like out from

613
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Speaker 1: under Us.

614
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: But like this interview with Coach Pisaci.

615
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Speaker 1: When he comes on in the middle of the interview,

616
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: we can sit down with him, like everything when alec

617
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: Ingole comes on, Max Crosby, Foster Morrow, Fuck, I corrected

618
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: that Fostermorrow, right, Fostermorrow. When all the Raiders guys would

619
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: come on, and we try and describe like what Pasaci

620
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,199
Speaker 1: is like how like he can be a motherfucker, but

621
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: there's just something about him that makes you want to

622
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 1: run through a wall. You get that vibe from this dude.

623
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: Some of his Italian comes out like look, I'm getting

624
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: caught trying to explain it again.

625
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 3: Like right when he walked onto the bus, he.

626
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 4: Like moves the mic out of the way like he's

627
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 4: not gonna talk on it. Wheel's like, hey man, you

628
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 4: need to like here's the mic. He's basically like waves

629
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 4: will off like I'm not talking into your mic, bro. Yeah,

630
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 4: and then ten seconds later he's dropping like everybody in

631
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 4: the bus is like, dude, if I'm playing football, I

632
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 4: want to play for this guy.

633
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 10: Yeah.

634
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: You just get a really good look into the cookie

635
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: jar with this dude. You really get to feel what

636
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: he's about because shout out to him. I really appreciate

637
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: him for being open and like, you know, cause they

638
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: don't have to do that stuff and coaches are really

639
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: buttoned up when they're doing these interviews. But I feel

640
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: like he really gave us like a look like when

641
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: you're sitting there and talking with him, like that's the Maasaca.

642
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 1: He got off the bus, we hugged, and he left,

643
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: and I came back on with the boys, and I'm like,

644
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: that's exactly even coach with Flourda. I'm not like obviously

645
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: downplaying the coach floor like we get to know him

646
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: a lot in this episode two, especially on the front end,

647
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: but like obviously like I've been on record talking about

648
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: Pasasia and everything else, and I got to come on

649
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: the bus plast. I don't even know if you've gotten

650
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: to listen to the interview yet, but I got to

651
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: come on the bus and be.

652
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: Like, boys, like that was it?

653
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 3: Like that was you got.

654
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: You got a taste of what it was to like

655
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: play for Coach Pisachia.

656
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: But this interview is awesome. You guys are gonna love

657
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: it again. Please take a moment subscribe to the boys.

658
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: Maybe if you maybe you drop the comment, maybe some

659
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: to drop a second comment, or maybe you're tuning in

660
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: here and just drop a comment.

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Speaker 2: Whatever you want to say.

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Speaker 1: Shout out the boys like pro vibes like you know whatever,

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Speaker 1: you guys know how it is, but without without further ado,

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Speaker 1: this is the Coach Little Flour Coach Pisachi episode Big hugs,

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Speaker 1: tiny kisses. Yeah, if you guys are listening, there's a slight,

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Speaker 1: little faint buzz right now. Listen, we got the bus

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Speaker 1: toad however many miles from Nashville to Green Bay where

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Speaker 1: you are inside of Lambeau right now, we've inserted ourselves

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Speaker 1: in the Lambeau and uh kind of and all the wiring.

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Speaker 2: Like this has been uh we've Jimmy rigged this entire thing.

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Speaker 1: So if you hear a little fan thing like, bear

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Speaker 1: with the boys, because we're going through a lot of

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Speaker 1: adversity to get you guys fucking awesome interviews with head

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Speaker 1: coach HCl Hammer cockle Fur and we're gonna have Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers on like we're gonna have a lot of guys,

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Speaker 1: So bear with us, but stuff further ado. I'm fucking

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Speaker 1: fired up that you are finally on the bus.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad I get.

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Speaker 1: To Yeah, let's go, yes, because we've we've talked about

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Speaker 1: it for a few years now. Number Okay, let's start here.

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Speaker 1: Why haven't we seen Why haven't we seen Willy in

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Speaker 1: uh in the Green and yellow.

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Speaker 11: That's a great question because we've talked with a few yous.

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Speaker 11: I would love to see those beautif that beautiful smile.

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Speaker 3: In the green and gold.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe a December phone call playoff, Willie, if you

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Speaker 1: want to raise the level of.

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Speaker 3: Like we need to bring juice late in the year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you bring a lot of juice. I know that.

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Speaker 1: If anything, if you ever get in the pinch, just

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Speaker 1: just know that if you call and you're like, hey,

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Speaker 1: would you be able to and I say yes, just

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Speaker 1: know that you can trust me.

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Speaker 11: You stay ready so you don't have to get ready.

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Speaker 11: Let's go, let's go. But the last couple of years,

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Speaker 11: so more so the first year where I ended up

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Speaker 11: playing for the Raiders. Remember when I was when I

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Speaker 11: signed with the Saints, that kind of all season we were.

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Speaker 2: I was so fired up because you've got Ko in here.

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Speaker 1: Ko was my Kirk Alavadatti was my linebacker coach for

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Speaker 1: five years. I've watched it and he was kind of the

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Speaker 1: coach that like took a shot on me, like trusting.

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Speaker 2: Me, kind of bet a little bit, like hey, I remember.

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Speaker 1: When he first said make me right, He's like, because

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Speaker 1: we're going with this decision, and so knowing that you

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Speaker 1: had Ko here, I was like, man, if there could

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Speaker 1: be a shot to where I could play for both

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Speaker 1: of you guys, Like I was so fired up.

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Speaker 2: Obviously it didn't work out, but I thought it was

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Speaker 2: getting close.

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Speaker 3: At one point it was. It was definitely talked about.

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Speaker 11: I will say this, You're a big reason that Ko

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Speaker 11: is here, really, Yeah, because I remember asking you when

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Speaker 11: we were together in Tennessee, who the best linebacker coach

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Speaker 11: you ever had?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I believe that, like like Ko, he's he's

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Speaker 1: very good. No matter how he does it, he's very

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Speaker 1: good at getting to the conversational piece that you want

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Speaker 1: to hear from, whether or not it Sometimes he might

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Speaker 1: shy away because Kyo and I would there have been

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Speaker 1: some roller coaster rides with us, like us to right,

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Speaker 1: and in this business, like especially when you're young, you

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Speaker 1: don't fully understand the big like the bigger pictures decisions

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Speaker 1: I kind of have to be made that kind of

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Speaker 1: really piss you off.

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Speaker 2: In the moment.

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Speaker 1: You're just like, why aren't you fucking telling me this?

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Speaker 1: And he's just like, put it on me.

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Speaker 10: It's my fault.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I know, it's not your fucking fault, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know why you won't tell me. And it's

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Speaker 1: You've we've had conversations like that. But he's somebody who's

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Speaker 1: always like he teaches well. And the first thing he

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Speaker 1: says to you, which I've told these guys, I'm like, hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: I love you, but don't ever trust me.

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Speaker 2: And he kind of says that from the to like,

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Speaker 2: you know, it is a business at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I couldn't like speak higher of coach Ko

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Speaker 1: just because he was the guy that kind of helped.

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Speaker 2: He was one where I got.

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Speaker 11: My shot, Oh, no doubt, And you took advantage of

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Speaker 11: that shot, dude. Yeah, it's hard, undrafted. I mean, that's

744
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Speaker 11: that's a tough road you're on the practice squad. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 11: did a hell of.

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Speaker 1: Defense against you guys, fucking having to cover Jordan Reid every.

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Speaker 2: Goddamn day in my life.

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Speaker 3: You and uh you and mcfi for the offense.

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Speaker 1: But uh no, man, remember And and then I was

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Speaker 1: sitting in the I was about to sign with the

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Speaker 1: Saints and I'm sitting in my hotel room, and I

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Speaker 1: hit up coach for because we had talked on the

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Speaker 1: phone a couple of times, and like I was very

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Speaker 1: I was, I was hopeful, and like I was.

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Speaker 2: Wanting to play for Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: I was like, man, I would love to get up

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Speaker 1: and play for you and play for KO again. And obviously,

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Speaker 1: like you know, the business is involved and everything like that,

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Speaker 1: but I remember like giving my last swing at it,

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Speaker 1: and I was sitting in the hotel in New Orleans

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Speaker 1: and I was like, Hey, I did my work out

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Speaker 1: and they have a contract in front of me right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting in my hotel room and I haven't signed it.

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Speaker 1: If you can get me to Green Bay right now,

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Speaker 1: I will fucking get on the next play tomorrow and

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Speaker 1: I'll come to Green Bay. And he's like, bro, You're

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Speaker 1: just like man, I truly I don't know, Like I

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Speaker 1: can try one more time tomorrow, but that's nothing to

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Speaker 1: hang your head on, Like you've got to, like, you've

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Speaker 1: got to take this opportunity because this one is probably

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Speaker 1: not going to be here, not because I'm not a beast.

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Speaker 2: You are and we probably would have won the Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl that you're in Green.

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Speaker 3: Bay, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you are the missing piece dog, I'm telling you.

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Speaker 1: But off of that thirty nine and ten, you have

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Speaker 1: the best start of any head coach in the history.

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Speaker 2: That's that's correct. And then I think I heard that

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Speaker 2: on ESPN.

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Speaker 11: You know what, though I hear it a lot. First

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Speaker 11: of all, it is a reflection of everybody that is here.

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Speaker 11: It's our players, our coaches, our personnel department do a

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Speaker 11: great job.

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Speaker 3: But ultimately it really doesn't matter. That's true. It really

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter. You're right, you are.

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Speaker 1: Right, I think because I was thinking about this, because

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Speaker 1: I was like, I want to ask him this question.

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Speaker 3: I know I'm gonna like ultimately you.

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Speaker 1: Get people say cliche or they're given the head coach answer,

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Speaker 1: like you're giving the right response saying that because truthfully,

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Speaker 1: like when you're trying to get to that next thing,

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Speaker 1: like it doesn't fucking matter what's happened in the past.

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Speaker 2: What matters is the next step in front of us.

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Speaker 1: But what I want to know, which I think is

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Speaker 1: good and I think what makes this thing work with

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Speaker 1: us at times is diving into the perspective of like

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Speaker 1: do you ever sit back and like have perspective for

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Speaker 1: yourself and like not in an arrogant way, be like

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Speaker 1: I've done this, but have an appreciation for how far

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Speaker 1: you've kind of come and started off like this, whether

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Speaker 1: or not you can say I've had the arguably the

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Speaker 1: greatest quarterback, We've had the best players, or I got

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Speaker 1: to come into this situation. Do you ever have a

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Speaker 1: perspective where you can sit back and take from that

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Speaker 1: perspective and then you make it relatable to everybody because

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Speaker 1: people are like, Okay, he is a human and he

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Speaker 1: does appreciate his wins because I get it that you're

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Speaker 1: fucking like it doesn't matter and we got to win

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Speaker 1: a super Bowl and I'm two and three in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs and all of those fucking answers, thanks, thanks.

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Speaker 3: For Foreign Sultan, the WM there will well.

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Speaker 1: But I say that because I feel like that's something

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Speaker 1: you'll be like, you know, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: I'm this, I'm that, because while you're going, you're also

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Speaker 1: preparing for your whatever, if there ever is another gig

816
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Speaker 1: or your next boss. Like you always got to be

817
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Speaker 1: this certain fucking person that's got it together. But do

818
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Speaker 1: you take moments to appreciate and see the body of

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Speaker 1: work that you've put together since you've been here.

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Speaker 11: Well, for myself, it's it's never I, it's we And

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Speaker 11: because like I told you earlier, it takes a lot

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Speaker 11: of people to make this show go. And first and foremost,

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Speaker 11: it starts with our players. And we've had obviously, we

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Speaker 11: have a lot of Pro Bowl type players, but not

825
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Speaker 11: only are they great on the field, they're great in

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Speaker 11: that locker room.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's what I guess if there is

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Speaker 3: a moment to say, I that.

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Speaker 11: All you can do is lay out a vision and

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Speaker 11: then and it's on everybody else whether they want to

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Speaker 11: choose to follow that vision. And we've had just great

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Speaker 11: people that have come together for the betterment of the team.

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Speaker 11: And I think that is probably what I'm most proud of.

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Speaker 11: And it's not the wins and losses. And certainly we

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Speaker 11: all know why we're here. Everybody in the league is

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Speaker 11: here to hoiste that Lombardi Trophy and to win that.

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Speaker 11: And you know, at the end of the day, it

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Speaker 11: doesn't matter how many games you win in the regular season.

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Speaker 11: Only one team's happy at the end of the year.

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Speaker 11: So until we reach that, we're going to be a

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Speaker 11: little disgruntled, I guess.

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Speaker 3: No doubt.

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Speaker 1: But like with that, And I see what you mean,

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Speaker 1: because you could come in you come into an organization

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Speaker 1: like this, like the history behind it. Not only that,

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Speaker 1: but like Aaron Rodgers, the squad, the talent, the I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Lombardi Green Bay, all of it. Like you come

848
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Speaker 1: into this situation and you sit back and you're like, all, yeah,

849
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Speaker 1: I can do is lay out a vision, and I'm

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Speaker 1: proud that we all found a way to like come together.

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Speaker 1: Like what were some things that you felt like you

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Speaker 1: had to kind of add to your toolbox or your

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00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: bag or whatever the word you want to use coming

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Speaker 1: into this situation being an offensive coordinator, being the head

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Speaker 1: coach of this and trying to get people to buy

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Speaker 1: into that, or you even being like what are things

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Speaker 1: that I need to buy into?

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Speaker 2: Like what pivots have you had to make becoming a

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Speaker 2: head coach.

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Speaker 11: I think you're constantly learning, but I think it all

861
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Speaker 11: starts by hiring the right people around you. And it's

862
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Speaker 11: okay if you don't have all the answers, you can

863
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 11: lean on each other. You know, we have a lot

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Speaker 11: of open dialogue not only with with our staff, but

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Speaker 11: with a lot of our players as well, And I

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Speaker 11: think that's I mean, I just I'm of the mindset

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Speaker 11: that collectively we can figure out figure it out. Not

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Speaker 11: one person has all the answers. So that's kind of

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Speaker 11: how we operate. Is that hard to do in a

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Speaker 11: business like this?

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Speaker 1: Like usually there's you know, people have titles and you

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00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: come in and when if you have like an open

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00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: dialogue style of like, hey, guys, like we you be

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00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: don't be afraid to fucking speak up because we all

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00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: want to learn from each other.

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Speaker 3: Are there?

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like there's like a growing pain in that,

878
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: especially coming into such like an alpha mentality like masculine

879
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: environment in business.

880
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 11: No, I think people aren't necessarily used to that in

881
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 11: our business mm hm as much, although I think it's

882
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 11: starting to trend a little bit more that way. But yeah,

883
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 11: I think it all goes back to getting It's the relationships, right,

884
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 11: people getting to know you, You're getting to know them,

885
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 11: and then that's where you can have real honest conversation.

886
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, getting into the last like getting into the end

887
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: of last year where you know, you get into the playoffs,

888
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: you don't make it to the super Bowl. Obviously, at

889
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 1: a place like this, the standard is like is a

890
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 1: super Bowl like you guys have been to a couple

891
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: of NFC championships at the end of this past year,

892
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: what were a couple of things that you went in

893
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: whether you close the door with coaches in there, just yourself,

894
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: you're most trusted people to where you're like, these are

895
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: the things we need to fucking tighten up, or these

896
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: are the things we need to fix, because obviously you

897
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: get you probably get a sense of being very sick

898
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: and tired of making it so far, being like the

899
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: best team in like the regular season, and and and

900
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: being like, what is it gonna fucking take to just

901
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 1: get past this goddamn hurdle.

902
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 2: Well, a, we're a couple of.

903
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: Things you look at and some changes you might have

904
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: made or things that you look to.

905
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think, well you do that every year. You

906
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 11: always look at you know what, what what went right?

907
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 11: What are the things that you got to fix? And

908
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 11: then certainly when you get to the playoffs. I was

909
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 11: talking to Sean McVay about this. You know, it's like

910
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 11: it's the closest thing to March madness. I mean, the

911
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 11: competitive balance is so close, and it's a play here

912
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 11: or play there, And you know, from playing in this

913
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 11: league for so long, but certainly we had some We've

914
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 11: had some bad mistakes at some really bad time.

915
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 3: So you look at you know, obviously last.

916
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 11: Year in the playoffs, just we were pretty much in

917
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 11: control of that game, although we weren't playing very well offensively.

918
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 11: I mean, our defense was they showed up and they

919
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 11: were playing as good as I've ever seen our defense play.

920
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 11: And then you have a misqueue at the end of

921
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 11: the game with a you know, the block punt that

922
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 11: gets returned. You know, it's stings. It's still stings. It's

923
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 11: always going to sting, but it's just because you can't

924
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 11: those those opportunities are so precious.

925
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 3: You've got to take advantage of them when you're in

926
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 3: the moment.

927
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 11: So you always you always try to reflect and take

928
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 11: as much emotion out of it at the end of

929
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 11: the season, which is hard to do. And I wish

930
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 11: the league would just like shut down for a couple

931
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 11: of weeks to let everybody kind of decompress, but that's

932
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 11: not the world we live in. So you've got to

933
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 11: make quick decisions, and you've got to try to make

934
00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 11: them with without being emotional, And like I said, it's

935
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 11: so hard to do. But you know, the opportunity to

936
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 11: get a guy like rich Pasacia in here. Yes, it

937
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 11: presented itself, and you know, it's one of the toughest

938
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 11: part I think about being a head coach is saying

939
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 11: goodbye to other people, letting guys go, and that's something

940
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 11: that I'll never get used to, but it is part

941
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 11: of the job, and you always have to have the

942
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 11: interest of there's so many people associated with our organization,

943
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 11: not only just our coaches and players, but personnel and

944
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 11: just everybody that works here, and so you always gotta

945
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 11: you have the responsibility of looking out for everybody within

946
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 11: the organization.

947
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,399
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Speaker 1: back to the episode, does it get harder? Like this

964
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: past year doesn't sting more than the year's past? Like

965
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: obviously they all sting, But it was there a sense

966
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: of like, god, damn it, dude, I can tell.

967
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 11: By your grant like sure absolutely, but like there's no

968
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 11: like I said, all you can do is reflect and

969
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 11: try to learn from it and move on. And it's

970
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 11: a new year, and so it's not something unless I'm

971
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 11: asked about it that I ever put much thought into

972
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 11: it at this stage of the game.

973
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, where are you at minutely? Like how's the off

974
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: season been for you?

975
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: Like being in that box, like you explain, like you

976
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: wish that you could have like a two week like

977
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 1: just fucking try to remove as.

978
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 2: Much most as possible.

979
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: But obviously the farther way you get from it, the

980
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: more outside of the box that you get. Like, where

981
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 1: are you at now? How do you feel like going

982
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: into this year? And everything?

983
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 3: I feel great.

984
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 10: It was.

985
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 11: It was a really good offseason, a lot of transition,

986
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 11: which you know, creates a lot of unknowns when you

987
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 11: lose so so many important people on your coaching staff

988
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 11: like a Nathaniel Hackett, Luke Getzi, Justin Out and Mike Smith. Uh,

989
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 11: you know, we we lost a lot of really good

990
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 11: coaches merged straight and so that creates you know, hiring

991
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 11: people's hard, especially because hiring the right people and guys

992
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 11: that gonna are going to fit in with with the

993
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 11: culture that we have in place, and so that is

994
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 11: that is.

995
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 3: There's a little bit of a learning curve there.

996
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 11: But we've been able to hire some some great people

997
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 11: who were able to promote Adam Stenovich to offensive coordinator

998
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 11: and bring in guys that Tom Clements, who uh you

999
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 11: know was here previously as Aaron's quarterback coach from his

1000
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 11: second year all the way to like year fourteen or

1001
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 11: whatever it was, and then so we got some bringing

1002
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 11: in Rich has been awesome. So we were able to

1003
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 11: you know, handle that transition and learn and kind of

1004
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 11: grow together. And yet we haven't based any you know,

1005
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 11: real tests yet in terms of the adversity that comes

1006
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 11: along with the NFL season. But and then also, you know,

1007
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 11: replacing some key players. It's it's it's tough when you

1008
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 11: lose a guy like DeVante Adams, but that is the

1009
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 11: nature of the beast, right, You've got to continue to

1010
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 11: evolve and move on.

1011
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: And there's no sense in just.

1012
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 11: Sitting here thinking about the what ifs or what should

1013
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 11: have been or what could have been. It's just all right,

1014
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 11: here's what we got. How do we make this work

1015
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 11: and we move forward.

1016
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: Do you feel like a lot of the external outside

1017
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: noise when decisions like that, like have to get made,

1018
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: like a DeVante Adams trading him, Like obviously you bring

1019
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 1: in Aaron's old quarterback coach, and everybody just naturally reason

1020
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: to like the way Aaron's mystique is about what is

1021
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 1: he doing? Like what's in his head all the time?

1022
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: Is he gonna retire this year? Oh ship, they're bringing

1023
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: in his old quarterback coach. Do you ever feel like

1024
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: are not?

1025
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 10: Do you ever?

1026
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: Obviously we all do as human, but like, does that

1027
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: do you ever feel that weight from the outside world

1028
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: on decisions that get made like that, or even not

1029
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: drafting a wide receiver in the first round when everybody's

1030
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: like screaming shit like that.

1031
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I think you have to block that out.

1032
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 3: You gotta. We put a lot of time.

1033
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 11: Into this thing, and we like, sure, would we have

1034
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 11: drafted a guy if the right guy was there in

1035
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 11: the first round, Absolutely we would have. But you can't.

1036
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 11: You can't force it. It's gotta be you gotta trust.

1037
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 11: We have a great process. Brian Gudikunsar GM does does

1038
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 11: a really good job and his personal department, they do

1039
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 11: a great job of evaluating, and you know, ultimately you

1040
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 11: gotta take the best players and you don't wanna, you

1041
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 11: don't want to force it.

1042
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 3: And when you force it, that's typically when you make mistakes.

1043
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: I texted Ko immediately when you guys drafted that linebacker

1044
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: in the fresh round, I said, what the fuck is in?

1045
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 11: I bet you did, he responds.

1046
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: Rich liked him at a right guard on punt.

1047
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 3: It's a little longer than you will, I know, right.

1048
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 10: Fuck.

1049
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: But I want to get more into like your coaching

1050
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: career because you've had quite the fucking come up.

1051
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: We were talking about a little bit on the bus.

1052
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: And you're you know, you're very uh you have a

1053
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: very like stoic approach about you know, it's allid you know, playing,

1054
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: meeting the right people, taking advantage of the right opportunity,

1055
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: like relating it all the life, but like looking at

1056
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: your background, like I didn't know you played for the

1057
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: Omaha Beef.

1058
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 2: Number one, You didn't know.

1059
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: I was right there you played for the Omaha Beef.

1060
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: Like you played in the Indoor fucking Football League. And

1061
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: then you go into IL the ni FL, Bro, and then.

1062
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 3: You go in like.

1063
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 1: I think about a guy that's playing in the Indoor

1064
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: Football League. And it's not like I'm not being I'm

1065
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: trying my best not to be dist sounding disrespectful, but

1066
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: like you know, like you sit there and you think

1067
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: of a guy in the n i FL, the Indoor

1068
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: Football League who goes into Division two coaching, and then

1069
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: you know through probably a connection there, and then from

1070
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 1: there you start climbing the ranks of your coaching journey.

1071
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 3: You get a little higher.

1072
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 11: Then you go to Houston, that's where it seemed like

1073
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 11: you meet coach coach Shanahan. You go to Washington, then.

1074
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: You go to Notre Dame for a year, then you

1075
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: get back into it with Atlanta, then you go to

1076
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 1: LA then the Titans.

1077
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 3: Now you're here a lot of moves, Bro, a lot

1078
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 3: of moves.

1079
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 11: Although my wife, my wife always tells me, she's like,

1080
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 11: you don't move, you relocate.

1081
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 3: I move. So that's gotta be tough on the family.

1082
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 3: Number one is it is tough.

1083
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 11: It is tough, But our kids were young enough where

1084
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 11: it didn't really Yeah, and they got to, you know,

1085
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 11: live in a lot of cool different cities and meet

1086
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 11: a lot of new people. But no, it's that that's life, right,

1087
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 11: is just being presented with an opportunity.

1088
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 3: So going back, my dad was a college coach at

1089
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 3: Central went.

1090
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: A little bit on your coaching journey because I want

1091
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 1: to talk about some of the pivotal moments that probably

1092
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 1: took place as you continue for everybody.

1093
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 11: But my dad was at Central Michigan for a lot

1094
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 11: of years. He gets fired my senior year of high school.

1095
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 11: So I was going to walk on there. Ended up yeah, yeah,

1096
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 11: he got that. Yeah, there's two kinds of coaches, coaches

1097
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 11: who've been fired and coaches who are going to get fired.

1098
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 3: Typically yes, so, but he was at Central Michigan.

1099
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 11: Anyways, make a long story short, I went to Western Michigan,

1100
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 11: transferred to Saginaw Valley, played against.

1101
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:54,439
Speaker 3: Bryant oh Oh Ship the man is here.

1102
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: We got coach Masace. He's gonna join us and he

1103
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: will listen to this story with us. You thought you

1104
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 1: never see me again.

1105
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, how you doing one? I'm rich?

1106
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1107
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 3: What's mean?

1108
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 2: Okay, we do, but we got the background.

1109
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 3: We're good. Thanks, we've been waiting for you. Welcome to

1110
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: my meeting. No, no, don't worry about it. I didn't

1111
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 3: know what I was supposed to wear. I'll take it off.

1112
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 3: It's hottering fuck.

1113
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 11: Anyways, right there, they've heard a lot about you, Garrett

1114
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 11: Jack JP.

1115
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 2: We're just in the middle.

1116
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: He's reflecting on his come up in the coaching ranks,

1117
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: and he's talking about his dad a little bit right now.

1118
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 11: But I was talking about how he was an indoor

1119
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 11: football player with the beef. What that probably makes a coach?

1120
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 11: Besides you, he doesn't.

1121
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 10: Have a plenty of film on will some blocks on Pumper,

1122
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 10: so out.

1123
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, you gotta get this thing right. Like, I

1124
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: know you love your coffee, but well now the details.

1125
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 10: Look like you quit lifting.

1126
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: Come you know this. I looked in December. We're just

1127
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: talking about how I'm coming back in December.

1128
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 2: Maybe at some point, he.

1129
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 3: Says, he stays ready. So you don't have to get.

1130
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 10: Ready using my ship.

1131
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 3: Oh I love that you faced. You faced last year.

1132
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 2: Hey, can you cover a punt? We were covering punts

1133
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 2: the next week.

1134
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 3: Go.

1135
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, so your dad gets fired, you're gonna walk

1136
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: on there.

1137
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 11: Yeah, go to Western Michigan, transfer to the Second Valley. In

1138
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 11: the meantime, Brian Kelly was the head coach of Grand Valley.

1139
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 11: He gets that Central job after I graduate, and I

1140
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 11: go to Central Michigan as a grad assistant, and that's

1141
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 11: where I'm at. Robert Sala, no ship, So you're connected

1142
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 11: to fucking Sala. So we were roommates. We got there's

1143
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 11: a lot of good stories that are probably not appropriate.

1144
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 11: No no, no, no no no. So yeah, Sall and I

1145
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 11: room together for a year, and uh. He went on

1146
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 11: and went to Georgia, then got an opportunity with the

1147
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 11: Texans and they had a QC position open a couple

1148
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 11: of years later, and he was kind of pounding the

1149
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 11: table for me with with Kyle Shanahan, with with Gary Kubiak.

1150
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,919
Speaker 11: And it's rare that a QC gets another QC a job,

1151
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 11: because usually it's coordinator. They're not in the position to Yeah,

1152
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 11: and I had met those guys. A couple of times

1153
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 11: went down to the Combine. One year went to when

1154
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 11: they were when they were playing the Browns. I was

1155
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 11: coaching at Ashland University. Went up and hung out with

1156
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 11: them for a night and got to meet those guys

1157
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 11: so they could at least put a face with a name.

1158
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 11: And sure enough, I'll never forget. Gary Kubiak calls and

1159
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 11: he said, you know, we have an opportunity here.

1160
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 3: Do you want to come?

1161
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 11: I said, shoot, coach, I'll I'll get in my car tomorrow,

1162
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 11: I'll be there. And so I drove down to Houston

1163
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 11: from Ohio, and you know, I was there for two

1164
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 11: years and I got to meet some great people. And

1165
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 11: obviously Gary Kubiak is a guy that I got a

1166
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 11: ton of respect for. And Kyle Shanahan was the offensive coordinator.

1167
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 11: And here it is, Kyle's twenty eight years old. I'm

1168
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 11: twenty eight years old, and I'm thinking to myself, man,

1169
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 11: this guy can't know that much more than I do.

1170
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 11: And I was blown away. I was like, holy shit,

1171
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 11: it was next level. Oh it was. I was like, man,

1172
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 11: I don't know anything about football. So it was a

1173
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 11: two year crash course on just learning football at this level.

1174
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 11: He's like, I got to tell people, it's like getting

1175
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 11: your PhD in football, and especially when you're learning from

1176
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 11: really great coaches and good people. And you know, Kob's Kyle,

1177
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 11: Mike McDaniel was there as a quality control. Slid was

1178
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 11: a quality control on the defensive side. So I mean

1179
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 11: we had we had a pretty special crew. Yeah, I

1180
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 11: mean that coaching trees. You guys are head coaches pretty

1181
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 11: much everywhere right now.

1182
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: But I know you're gonna fuck I hate talking about

1183
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: yourself and I'm gonna do my best to try to

1184
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 1: make you do it.

1185
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 3: When a QC is banging.

1186
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: The table for you to get a job and you

1187
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: end up getting the job after you do the meeting

1188
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: and name to a face like what do you think

1189
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: that you I want to say, what do you think

1190
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: that you had? What do you feel like you believed

1191
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: in that? Like that like put you in a spot

1192
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: that you were like you executed at all times? Like

1193
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 1: what do you think made you different enough to get

1194
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 1: a job like that? Like what are what's the shit

1195
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: that you got that puts you in a.

1196
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 3: Position like that.

1197
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 11: I just think it goes back to you know, there's

1198
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 11: no substitute for hard work, and you've got to be

1199
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 11: willing to put in the work and try to be

1200
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 11: as detailed as possible. And I just remember there were

1201
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 11: a lot of sleepless nights I had. We had Alex

1202
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 11: Gibbs was our offensive line coach, and I'm doing the

1203
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 11: run drawings, and my whole goal on Tuesday nights was

1204
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 11: to get done with the run drawings so I could

1205
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 11: go get maybe an hour or two hours of sleep.

1206
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 11: And Alex was an early riser. He'd get in there

1207
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 11: maybe before four am. And I'll never forget a couple

1208
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 11: of times I'm like just finishing up the last run

1209
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 11: and sure shit, I hear the door slamming incomes coach Gibbs,

1210
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 11: and I knew there was no sleep in that night.

1211
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 11: You just stay up, you work all night ers.

1212
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: And then he sees you there and clearly like that's

1213
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: a feather in the cap of this.

1214
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 11: That's not a feather in the cap. It's like, what

1215
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 11: the hell's taking you so damn long? So you just

1216
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 11: you know, but you you do whatever it takes to

1217
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 11: get the job done.

1218
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 3: Right right right now.

1219
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: Going through when you were in Houston, Washington, like you've

1220
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: gotten the opportunity to coach with a lot of great minds,

1221
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: Like what are things that you feel like you've adopted

1222
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: in your own to put in your own game through

1223
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 1: like learning with McVeigh, Shanahan, Vrabel, all those guys along

1224
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: the way.

1225
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 11: Yeah, there's there's there's something that you learn from every situation.

1226
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 1: What's something that really stands out? So that way, maybe

1227
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: you're not trying to think of too many things, Like no.

1228
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 11: I think first and foremost just being around all these

1229
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 11: guys is you got to be true to yourself and

1230
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 11: and don't try to be somebody else because you know,

1231
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 11: as a player, you see right through that and that's

1232
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 11: that's not endearing to people. Nobody wants to be around that.

1233
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 11: So I think it starts with being that and then

1234
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 11: you know, being with dan Quinn was was a great

1235
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 11: lesson for me, and just in terms of how much

1236
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 11: fun we can have it work and still get everything

1237
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 11: done that we need to get done, and just in

1238
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 11: terms of the environment the culture.

1239
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 3: It kind of changed my view of of just coming

1240
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 3: to work every day.

1241
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 2: I love that. How do you feel about my interviewing skills?

1242
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 10: So far?

1243
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 2: Coast posession we look at it.

1244
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 3: He's already got it done.

1245
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 11: Here.

1246
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 3: You got to get it close to your mouth. Now,

1247
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 3: get that micro get that close to your mouth.

1248
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 10: That sound good?

1249
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 3: Well, I know it doesn't, but we got to show.

1250
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 2: We got to show to operate.

1251
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: How do you feel like your boy's doing you know,

1252
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: not not punt setting, but it.

1253
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 12: Looks like you're doing great. Met your wife. It's the

1254
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 12: best thing ever happened to here.

1255
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 11: Let's uh, he wouldn't have got his wife he hadn't

1256
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 11: gotten those teeth fixed.

1257
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: She was with me before the teeth She would have

1258
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: said she would have said no, And I gotten the

1259
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 1: Kay I got you because I met around Washington.

1260
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 3: Well, your teeth looks phenomenal.

1261
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 2: I know dude leaf flir with every day because he's

1262
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 2: on the offensive side.

1263
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: But we'd be sitting there getting our coffee in the

1264
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: morning before meetings and he'd always come up and call me.

1265
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 3: Would you call me smiley?

1266
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 2: I don't, man, your teeth looks fucking amazing. I appreciate it.

1267
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 2: I spent a lot of money on him, like.

1268
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 10: Me, I got buck teeth my whole life.

1269
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,919
Speaker 1: So we got coach Massacia, which is a real which

1270
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: is a real treat.

1271
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 12: I think there's still you still got other stuff. You

1272
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 12: want to talk to the coach about.

1273
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's only a certain amount.

1274
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 11: And I'm sure he's probably in here, like let's get

1275
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 11: some more dynamic in because.

1276
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 12: I think he sold himself short on the last stuff

1277
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 12: that you asked him, and well people to it's hard

1278
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 12: for people to talk about him. So I've been with

1279
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 12: him a short time. His zeal for for football and

1280
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 12: his attention to detail and his ability to see things

1281
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 12: without someone telling them. And I mean I've been around

1282
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 12: a lot of teams. You watch us practice, there's the

1283
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 12: whole team that's behind the offense fifteen yards beyond the ball.

1284
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 12: How many times guys get yelled at the back up,

1285
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 12: back up the entire year. We don't say it one

1286
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 12: time in practice. At one time the whole team move.

1287
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 12: They don't move. They're fifteen yards beyond the ball, they

1288
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 12: don't move. I mean, it's a disciplined schedule, it's a

1289
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 12: discipline practice. Yet they're having a good time. They're flying

1290
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 12: around to the football, and I think it's a credit

1291
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 12: to you know, him and his zeal for football, his

1292
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 12: respect for players, his drive to win games. I think

1293
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 12: it's hard to talk about yourself personally, but I think

1294
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 12: he sold himself short a little bit. I can tell

1295
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 12: why he got hired, why he's moved like he's moved.

1296
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 12: It gets to be obvious if you're around him for.

1297
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 10: A little bit.

1298
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: So maybe that's the way we approach this. If I

1299
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: have a question for you, maybe I asked besides you

1300
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: by a question for what are the whole interview? What

1301
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: are the uh what are the things you've learned about

1302
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: coach Pisacia in the short time that you've had him,

1303
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: Because I you know, I don't want to toot my

1304
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: own horn, but we both know, we all know I

1305
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: love toot my own horn a little bit. So after

1306
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: the year's over, I get a nice FaceTime from coach

1307
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: Lafleur asking about asking about you, and just the way

1308
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: he probably describes that QC pounding on the table to

1309
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: get Lafleur down to Houston. I'm probably pounding, Not probably,

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Speaker 1: I am pounding the table, looking yelling at my phone,

1311
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: telling Lafleur, look, do whatever it fucking takes to get

1312
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: Bisacia in the in the building in Green Bay. With

1313
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: that said, I just want to put that out there

1314
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: in case you getting the pinch later in the year

1315
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: and you're thinking about somebody with that being said, what

1316
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: have you learned about coach Pisachi because you didn't really

1317
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: know him prior to hiring him.

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Speaker 11: On Oh no, but I'll tell you what, when he

1319
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 11: walks in the room, everybody sits up a little bit

1320
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 11: straight or a little bit shoot. The best was our

1321
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 11: first special team Rich comes in. He's talking all calm

1322
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 11: about you know, not wearing hats and and a you

1323
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 11: don't have to wear a hat, but if you do,

1324
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:14,919
Speaker 11: then get the fuck out.

1325
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 3: And I was like, immediately, oh shit, I was like this, Well,

1326
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 3: I took my.

1327
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 7: Hat off, just slowly kind of put it down.

1328
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 11: Actually, no, I took my My hat was off. I

1329
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 11: always I got a lot of respect for him. His

1330
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 11: career kind of speaks for itself. And I'll tell you what, Uh,

1331
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 11: you know, I didn't even think it was going to happen.

1332
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 11: I thought the Raiders if they made the right decision,

1333
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 11: no question. I mean, there was no decision in my mind.

1334
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 11: So but you know, their loss is our game.

1335
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is juicy little does he not have some

1336
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: of the best.

1337
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Speaker 11: Speeches you've ever heard O unbelievable in front of like

1338
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 11: in front of men who watch all the football movies

1339
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 11: who've been motivated their entire life.

1340
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: But once you get to like a certain age and

1341
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: point in your football or your sport athletic career, it

1342
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: starts to get a little numb, Like, all right, this coach,

1343
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: like you said, you want to play to your strength,

1344
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: like you don't want to be somebody or not. So

1345
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: you can see the coaches who give the bullshit stories

1346
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: or the bullshit cliches like but when he gives a speech,

1347
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: it's it's like I'm back in Friday, watching Friday. I

1348
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: like to remember the Titans back in high school.

1349
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 10: No, it is.

1350
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 11: It's so impressed. It's inspiring, it really is. But here's

1351
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 11: what I love about Rich. He is obviously he's hard

1352
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 11: on our guys and he's going to tell him the

1353
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 11: truth and be honest, but he's just as good as

1354
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 11: anybody that building them back up as well.

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Speaker 1: That shit is awesome, Like what do you think you've learned?

1389
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: Like this is actually a serious question, like because I

1390
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: try and explain at times, but it's kind of hard

1391
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 1: to explain because you do like motherfuck, like you'll tear it,

1392
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: you'll tear us down. But there's this there's this like

1393
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: bond I feel like that every player has with you

1394
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: and I've only played with you. Like people talk about

1395
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: me and the Raiders are me and like what was

1396
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: it like playing for Rich or what was it like

1397
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: when you were there? And I'm like, you, guys, gotta

1398
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: remember I wasn't there at that time. I've played thirteen

1399
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 1: games total, I think for the Raiders over the two

1400
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: years old.

1401
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 3: Was there?

1402
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, but you've been around Adam Hayward. You play with

1403
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 10: me for a long time.

1404
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: But still it's still like, you know when you pat

1405
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: dud's on the chest and you talk about why you

1406
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: pat dudes on the chest you want to feel their

1407
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 1: heart and shit like you say some shit to where

1408
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 1: it's like it's like real, Like how do you think

1409
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: you're able to do that?

1410
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 10: We'll give it all my stuff out.

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01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 2: We're trying to help people grow in their own life.

1412
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm I'm a firm believer that players want the truth.

1413
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 12: They want to know how we see it, so they

1414
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 12: can either disagree and have a professional conversation about it

1415
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 12: or they can go Okay, if that's what he's looking for,

1416
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 12: that's what I have to try to do. So and

1417
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 12: I think it's rare that I demean the person. I

1418
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 12: think I demean the act of the player and that

1419
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 12: they can fix. So now I'm not saying I haven't

1420
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 12: gotten after guys on a personal level at times, but

1421
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 12: I think if I do that, I've probably built some

1422
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 12: form of a personal relationship with them as well.

1423
01:03:58,720 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 10: Before I do that.

1424
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Johnny Carson comment radio show.

1425
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: When I would do something wrong, like I would be

1426
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: nervous the entire time it's happening. But I'm thinking, like,

1427
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: at least I know he's like kind of like joking

1428
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 1: with me.

1429
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 12: I feel well, I just didn't know about what I mean,

1430
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 12: I'll fuck up.

1431
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, put that on.

1432
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: Your fucking radio show, Johnny Carson. I'm just sitting there

1433
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: and everybody's like laughing, and I'm like thinking, guys, please

1434
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: stop laughing, like this isn't helping and you can make

1435
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 1: money at this stuff. No, I think as you were

1436
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 1: talking to like I was thinking about, I'm thinking about

1437
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: certain situations where you obviously address stuff in front of everybody,

1438
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: and you separate the act from the person. And then

1439
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 1: not only that, are you dressed in front of everybody,

1440
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: which is like probably at first everybody's like, damn, he's

1441
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: really ripping on me, like he's disrespecting me in front

1442
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: of people. But then after the meeting, when you'll coach

1443
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: the guy kind of in the same way but on

1444
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 1: a more personable level, and in front of maybe two

1445
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: or three guys, like you don't care who's standing there,

1446
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 1: you'll continue to be your same self and maybe get

1447
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: on more of a personal level. And then even there,

1448
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: like guys, sometimes it's just a witness effect like, Okay,

1449
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: he's just like that. He's really trying to fucking coach

1450
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: this guy the right way and also like love him

1451
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: the right way as well, because everybody's a little bit different.

1452
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: But as you say that, I feel like those are

1453
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: moments that kind of shape that stage two be that

1454
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 1: open in front of everybody, well, special teams film. It's

1455
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 1: a little bit different than O and D.

1456
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 12: And I've been on both sides of the ball, but

1457
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 12: there's everybody sees it. You know, you can miss a

1458
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 12: block as an offensive lineman and you got two more

1459
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 12: downs to get it done. You can miss a tackle,

1460
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 12: you know, and I got two more chances to make

1461
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 12: a tackle. You get one play, right, It's a it's

1462
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 12: a defining play, kind of takes on a life of

1463
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 12: its own, and everybody sees it. So if you go

1464
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 12: by it, they're all like, you didn't go buy that

1465
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 12: from me yesterday? Well why is he not? Why is

1466
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 12: he not saying anything in wilbur here?

1467
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 10: You know what I mean? Is he not say anything

1468
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 10: to hymns?

1469
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 12: So I think that you have to be honest with

1470
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 12: them and that tape so that you can they're all

1471
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 12: learning from that mistake because of the one play, if

1472
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 12: that makes any sense. And I only get him for

1473
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 12: a certain period of time, and they only have a

1474
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 12: certain period of time in their career. And we're usually

1475
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 12: coaching guys that are you know, if they bring more

1476
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 12: than a toothbos to training camp, they're kidding themselves, right,

1477
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 12: you've been there, So trying to get him as good

1478
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 12: as you can, as quickly as you can, so they

1479
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 12: can play for as long as they can. I just

1480
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 12: think the more truths you can give them are more

1481
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 12: this is how I'm wanting to see it, the better

1482
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 12: chance they got to do it the way you're wanting

1483
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 12: to see it. But you can't go buy a mistake.

1484
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 12: If you go buy a mistake, that's the new standard

1485
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 12: you set, right. If you're gonna set a standard, you

1486
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 12: got to hold him to the standard every time. And

1487
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 12: when the standard is upheld, you're like, that's it, that's it.

1488
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 12: But you might have made a mistake because now I

1489
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 12: know you can do it, so now you have to

1490
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 12: do it every time. But if you go buy one

1491
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 12: of your standards that you set as a standard, you

1492
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 12: go buy it, well, that's the new standard you set, right,

1493
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 12: And so now they're all going to play to that one.

1494
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 12: So I want them to play to the highest standard

1495
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 12: they possibly can for themselves.

1496
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 2: Just give him a whistle, bro, Just give him a whistle.

1497
01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 3: And do you just give it?

1498
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 1: When he got here, did you have I have one

1499
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 1: conversation Like I'm gonna give you a whistle and you

1500
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: just do your thing?

1501
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 3: Rich He's great, He's got the keys of the car man.

1502
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 11: Like, no, seriously, but like there's so much stuff that

1503
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 11: I've learned from him, you know, sitting in in those meetings.

1504
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 11: Not only from you know, a schematic standpoint or whatever

1505
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 11: it may be, but just this guy's got a lot

1506
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 11: of wisdom.

1507
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 3: Man.

1508
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 11: I mean, he's been doing it at a high level

1509
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 11: for a really long time. And he's authentic and that's

1510
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 11: that is everybody can see that.

1511
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, having you both here, obviously, this question seems bigger

1512
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: than what it is, because I know it's just gonna

1513
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: be like you know, some some regular like it's.

1514
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 3: Gonna be more.

1515
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:42,959
Speaker 2: It is what it is. But what do you guys

1516
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 2: think it takes for Green Bay to get over the hump?

1517
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: You come in, you've been here, you hire him, You

1518
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: come in, you sit back with them from kind of

1519
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:52,479
Speaker 1: a different lens.

1520
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 3: Or a different angle that you might be able to

1521
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 3: give some.

1522
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 1: Fresh blood or fresh perspective, Like what do you guys

1523
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 1: sit back and think, like, all right, here's how he

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01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: might hay some certain situations or times of the year

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01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: this year, or like what's it going to take for

1526
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 1: green Bay to get over the home.

1527
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 11: I think for us, it's just like we talked about earlier.

1528
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 11: We can't make bad mistakes at those times. I mean,

1529
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 11: you've got to be on your game because the margin

1530
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 11: of error is so minuscule. You can't have, you know,

1531
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 11: a play before a half where we give up, you know,

1532
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 11: a touchdown pass to Tom Brady two years ago.

1533
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 3: We can't have a block punt. We can't have a

1534
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 3: block field goal.

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01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 11: We can't you know, we can't have a fumble when

1536
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 11: we're driving. You just can't make those mistakes in those

1537
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 11: big time games. And I also think that there's a

1538
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 11: mentality to this too. You can't be afraid to go

1539
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 11: for it and understanding that, hey, you know what, we

1540
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 11: may fail. We may fail, but damn it, we're gonna

1541
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 11: We're going to give it our best shot. I think

1542
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 11: that that is more of a mentality that we're trying

1543
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,879
Speaker 11: to get everybody, don't be afraid of making a mistake.

1544
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 11: Really go for work, because if you don't, then you're

1545
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 11: probably not gonna get there.

1546
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 10: Anyways.

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01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think he's really good at that where he

1548
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 12: just said, he's really good at keep the pedal to

1549
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 12: the medal. Yet understand how we have to finish drives

1550
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 12: or how we have to finish before the end of

1551
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 12: the half, or I'm learning that for him, what a

1552
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 12: star process is that way. And I think the other

1553
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 12: thing he's done a great job of is whatever happens happened,

1554
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 12: don't you know, don't don't look in the rear of

1555
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 12: your mirror anymore. Let's keep our eyes going forward. Let's

1556
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 12: see what today looks like. We get a little bit

1557
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 12: better today, let's see tomorrow looks like. And I think

1558
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 12: he's done a great job with the team with that,

1559
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 12: you know. And so I'm trying to get in where

1560
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 12: I fit in, you know what I mean. I just

1561
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 12: and you know, we got ReBs in news alandbacker coach

1562
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 12: and some guys got some new titles on offense. And

1563
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 12: it's a staff for me, This staff and coach will

1564
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 12: four of my conversation before he came here, and every

1565
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 12: day with him. To be honest with you, I'm kind

1566
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 12: of you know, I'm re energized. I'm gonna the mecca

1567
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 12: of you know football, the Grace Italian of all time

1568
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 12: coached here.

1569
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 10: And want you know I get.

1570
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 12: I get to be with a staff that love football,

1571
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 12: they love being around each other. I've been a coach

1572
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,759
Speaker 12: for the Foreshouse like three times, and all three times

1573
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 12: he's got an indoor basketball court.

1574
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 10: Not to call him out, but it's with.

1575
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 3: This little uh newsboy and had ons only when it's cold.

1576
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 10: It's cold, that is.

1577
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 12: I've been there three times and every kid in the

1578
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 12: neighborhood is over there playing. And within the first fifteen

1579
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 12: minutes of being over there, next thing, you know, the

1580
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 12: doorbell rings and his wife's ordered food. Breeze ordered food,

1581
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 12: and all these kids come up. They got their shirts

1582
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 12: are off, they're sweating, they're playing their rear ends off

1583
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 12: in there, and they're all eating. They got pizza, they

1584
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 12: got trying, they got everything in there, and I'm like,

1585
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:38,600
Speaker 12: Breeze this she goes. That's like all the time you

1586
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 12: want to use the pool, go used. I mean, I

1587
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 12: just feel like it's a there we are trying to

1588
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 12: build coaches trying to build a family community atmosphere within

1589
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 12: the building. And then I think the players are understanding

1590
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 12: the difference between that and what it is to have

1591
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 12: a brotherhood of men and to be accountable to your

1592
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 12: job and the guy next to you and in front

1593
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 12: of your all those things. So I'm I'm enjoying them

1594
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 12: in the direction that he is and the way in

1595
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 12: which the staff competes and works with each other.

1596
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,520
Speaker 10: It's it's it's been fun. I've been re energized.

1597
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: This is a dynamic.

1598
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 3: I love.

1599
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 2: I love all of this.

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01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: Right now, you guys fucking going back and forth. I

1601
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 1: want to talk about coaching twelve because you've had the

1602
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 1: You've been around good quarterback You've been around great quarterbacks.

1603
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,600
Speaker 1: You've been around Matt Ryan, You've been around who do

1604
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:23,679
Speaker 1: you havent in Houston?

1605
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 10: Shop?

1606
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 3: I love Shop? Yeah, I mean you. He's one of

1607
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 3: the most underrated guys right right.

1608
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 1: But like people might hear that and be like, okay, well,

1609
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: well pump the breaks some great But you've been around

1610
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 1: a lot of like high level thinking quarterbacks that live

1611
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 1: in the details of everything. What separates Aaron Rodgers or

1612
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: how does he compare to all of the quarterbacks you've

1613
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 1: been around. Like when you sit back and you're like,

1614
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 1: because you're not you're labeled if you talk to coaches

1615
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 1: like you're labeled as like an offensive fucking minded detail,

1616
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: Like how does he come up with certain shit? But

1617
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 1: when you sit back and watch twelve work, like, what

1618
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 1: is what has been different about him since you've got here?

1619
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 11: Well, first of all, he loves ball. He loves ball.

1620
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 11: He's got an unbelievable memory. He'll remember stuff fifteen years ago.

1621
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 11: Aaron Rodgers memory or Sean mcvay's memory. Gun to your head. Ooh,

1622
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 11: that is a tough one, Sean. I know, Sean's got

1623
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 11: a hell of a memory for the Barry trap of

1624
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 11: a memory. They're both, they're both up there. Who would

1625
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 11: you pick? You know, that's a great question. I'm gonna

1626
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 11: have to go with Aaron. Okay, I'm I'm gonna have

1627
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 11: That's interesting. That's awesome to hear too, because you were

1628
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 11: talking about.

1629
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 3: Some like, man, I gotta support our players.

1630
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got support your boy.

1631
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 11: But no, they're both extremely sharp and but now Aaron

1632
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 11: just he has a way of I think I was

1633
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 11: telling you this the other day.

1634
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 3: I feel like his his left side of.

1635
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 11: His brain and his right side of his brain wor

1636
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 11: operate independently of one another. He is the ultimate multitasker.

1637
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 11: He can be out on the field. He can be

1638
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 11: observing what's happening with with the defense. If there's seven

1639
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 11: guys in, I can be calling a play and he

1640
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 11: can almost be having a conversation all the same time.

1641
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 11: It's the damnedest thing I've ever seen. The best was

1642
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,799
Speaker 11: a couple of years ago. We're playing Detroit.

1643
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 10: It was.

1644
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 11: It was it was the COVID year. So what was

1645
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 11: that twenty twenty? Yeah, and we're down.

1646
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: Hey, that's part of the Yeah, it's all right, I

1647
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: tell you, guys can really this is gonna be good stuff.

1648
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1649
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 11: I can't wait for that conversation happening, but I'll never forget.

1650
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 3: So they showed an all out pressure.

1651
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 11: Look and I'm watching, you know, the play clock, and

1652
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 11: it's five four three, And mind you, he is talking

1653
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 11: to Tonyan. You get you're gonna have to ask him

1654
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 11: about this. He's having a conversation with Tony and I'm thinking,

1655
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 11: there's no way he's going to get this ball snapped.

1656
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,799
Speaker 11: He's telling him what to do, and as the clock

1657
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 11: is hitting zero. He gets the ball snapped, and it

1658
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,719
Speaker 11: was probably gonna be a walk in touchdown where Bobby

1659
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 11: blocks out and and then releases you know the old Uh.

1660
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 11: I don't know, a great cover zero beater, but I

1661
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 11: don't think he's gonna get the playoffs. So I pop

1662
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 11: a time out right before the snap, and he's like,

1663
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 11: God damn it that.

1664
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 3: But I just you know, it's just just started ripping you.

1665
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 11: Like, No, it's a it's a great It was a

1666
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 11: great I guess lesson for me in terms of just

1667
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 11: trust that this guy, I mean, he's so aware of

1668
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 11: everything that's gonna go that that's going on, that he'll

1669
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 11: get the job done.

1670
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 2: It's the legendary What time is it? What time is

1671
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 2: it right now?

1672
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 10: All right?

1673
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 2: Cool? Yeah, No, this has been fucking awesome. That's an

1674
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 2: awesome story.

1675
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 1: Like, like, how does it like when he comes over

1676
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 1: and he's like, God damn it, Matt, is it like

1677
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 1: a my Like, is it like a fucking because you know,

1678
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 1: you know how the outside world to be too, just

1679
01:14:58,040 --> 01:14:58,600
Speaker 1: like some people be.

1680
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 3: I'll look at Coach Roger talking to Lafleur.

1681
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 1: No, no, we have that stuff all the time, all right, boys,

1682
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:05,639
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Speaker 3: How did you feel?

1696
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 1: Here's what I want to ask because I always tell

1697
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 1: this story when I was on the Raiders and the

1698
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:43,799
Speaker 1: Titans came to town. We obviously lost to the Titans,

1699
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:46,839
Speaker 1: and there was a ceremony after the game where I

1700
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 1: collected like in the fifteen jerseys, and we always talk

1701
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,600
Speaker 1: about it because I always talk about how nervous I

1702
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:55,640
Speaker 1: was going up into the locker room afterwards and the

1703
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 1: whole next week. You kind of mentally and verbally had

1704
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 1: your with me to where I didn't feel like I

1705
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: was like you feel like you fuck up in that

1706
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 1: moment because we're in the bubble of playing ball.

1707
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 3: But I'm thinking, like I've I've like.

1708
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 2: This is these are relationships like this.

1709
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 1: Once we get outside of the season and a year

1710
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 1: gets your moves like this would be something I look

1711
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 1: at and be like this was fucking cool. But how

1712
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 1: much did you actually hate me during that time or

1713
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 1: like did you think anything different?

1714
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 10: I hates a strong word. I was really I was

1715
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 10: disappointed in you, and.

1716
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 3: It does it really, But I knew that it.

1717
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 12: Was in the moment. When it's over. Now, I may

1718
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 12: bring it back and pop at you if you know

1719
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 12: and then, but it was over. But at that time

1720
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 12: that's how I felt. So it's hard for me. If

1721
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 12: I feel something at a particular time, I'd rather not

1722
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 12: wait to let it out.

1723
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 10: I'm just gonna kind of.

1724
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 1: Jersey wants you go play for their fucking team, Like,

1725
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm sitting there ship.

1726
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 10: No, I don't remember them calling him. That's the point

1727
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 10: that we called them them.

1728
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, because uh, it was always interesting with you because

1729
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 1: guys would be like called rich Fox with the other

1730
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 1: back guys, I'm like rich focks with me because there's

1731
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: a couple of people that we both know very well,

1732
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 1: and they probably, like you know, stamped my name for him.

1733
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: But between the jersey thing, there'd be a couple of

1734
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 1: reps that I would I fucked up on, like and

1735
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:24,640
Speaker 1: walk throughs or like my stuff would be serious and

1736
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 1: I would like mess something up because I'm either you know,

1737
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 1: I'm too locked in, I'm seeing too much, you know

1738
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But when he called me for the

1739
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 1: second time, or when he was like, why did you

1740
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 1: go back to the Titans? Whenever I sign with the Titans,

1741
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 1: when the Raiders had an offer too, like when we

1742
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 1: kind of had our relationship beyond that first year, I

1743
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 1: was like, I didn't know Basachia fucked with me because

1744
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 1: I thought truth be told, I thought you didn't like

1745
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 1: me for the longest time, mostly because of that jersey debacle.

1746
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 12: Well i'd be along list of those guys that don't

1747
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 12: think I like them. But I called you again, didn't I?

1748
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 12: You did so again? For me, I just I can't

1749
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:02,919
Speaker 12: wait to come to work, to be around the players.

1750
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 12: My three priorities in life for my wife, my kids,

1751
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 12: and the players. That's it. I don't have enough room

1752
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 12: in me, my makeup. I don't have enough room for

1753
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 12: all that other stuff. So the players that love it

1754
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 12: and their actions show that they love it. I love

1755
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 12: those players, and that's why I can't wait to come

1756
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 12: to work in the morning. It doesn't matter what I'm

1757
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 12: coaching position, it's irrelevant. It's football. I get to do

1758
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 12: this for a living. My dad worked for a living.

1759
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 12: He had hands of sampaper. You know what I'm saying.

1760
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 12: I get to do this, and it's about players. Players

1761
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 12: make plays, right, So if I get to come to

1762
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 12: work and help a player make his dreams come to fruition,

1763
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 12: it's like wow. You know, that's what we're all looking

1764
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 12: to do. You know, that's the wow factor for us

1765
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 12: to what we do for a living. That's the payback,

1766
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 12: you know what I mean. That's the payback to see

1767
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 12: those guys individually have personal success and then collectively in

1768
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 12: this sport. Now, you know baseball, you play all those games,

1769
01:18:58,520 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 12: you just go to bat and practice. You gonna play

1770
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 12: passive play, play all those game. They got to eat

1771
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 12: this stuff for seven days. Yeah, win a loss, right,

1772
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 12: And the difference Jason Witten taught me difference between a

1773
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 12: pat in the back and the kicking the ass is

1774
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 12: six inches. Well, if you stay too long in that

1775
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 12: pat in the back, you're getting ready to get a

1776
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 12: kick in the ass. You stay too long in that

1777
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 12: kick in the ass, you know you may never get

1778
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 12: to pat in the back again.

1779
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:19,719
Speaker 10: So it's just it's a matter of players.

1780
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 1: It's a lot to say that you love me, and

1781
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 1: I just want you to know I love you too.

1782
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys for coming on. Hey, and just no,

1783
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 1: I said this before, but this kind of vibe, this

1784
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 1: could be every day. I just want you to just

1785
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 1: keep that in mind. If you guys ever need a

1786
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 1: you ever need a right guard on punt, you ever

1787
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 1: need a backup linebacker, Like.

1788
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 10: Just know, once you read that story, how you got

1789
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 10: shit scared that I had to put your tackle. I'm

1790
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 10: up at a guard. It's because your legs are on

1791
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 10: this long.

1792
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: No, but when you're when you're on tackle. But when

1793
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 1: you're on tackle, you're on you know, you got to

1794
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 1: be quick now. Fortunately, like you know, my ability took over.

1795
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 1: But the most comfortable spot is the guard because you're

1796
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 1: probably going to get to release and go make a

1797
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 1: tackle first. When you're when you're a tackle, you have

1798
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 1: to spend a lot more time like blocking and fucking

1799
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 1: the tackles.

1800
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 10: You have to run better. That's why you're another reason

1801
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 10: you're better well.

1802
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:07,719
Speaker 2: And I'm trying to get out fast.

1803
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 3: But you kind of shot me on that one too.

1804
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 1: But that tackle the whole fucking vibe like it wasn't

1805
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 1: until like Washington, I got to be I got to

1806
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 1: be on Pump Return. It wasn't until Tennessee with Ackerman

1807
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 1: and then Besadesa. They would just talk about my arms

1808
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't even get a look on Pump Return,

1809
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't even it was like a water breaking.

1810
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 10: Hold anybody up, that's what you thought. You never tried

1811
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 10: me out like the Shaquille O'Neal of little people.

1812
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 2: I love you guys, man, I appreciate you guys coming on.

1813
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: We got to get the better on here, because I

1814
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 1: know we only got like probably eight minutes