WEBVTT - Life Inside the WWE Jet

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<v Speaker 1>M h. Hello everybody, Welcome back to WWF Wrestling with Freddy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Freddie Prince Jr. And uh, thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>coming back to here another episode. We've had a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of guests that I believe I have shown you guys

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<v Speaker 1>wrestlers are people too. Um No, they're actually nerds and

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<v Speaker 1>giant dorks. But I love them because I happen to

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<v Speaker 1>be one two. If you haven't heard the other episodes

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<v Speaker 1>in you're new to it, go back. We've had a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of guests and I tell a lot of stories

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<v Speaker 1>about my time at the w w E. I was

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<v Speaker 1>there post Get the f Out and uh, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you guys enjoyed today's episode because today is all about

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<v Speaker 1>the w w E plane, gorgeous black with the red stripe.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're gonna talk about stories on the plane today

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll probably get sidetracked a little bit as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll talk about other random stuff. But without any

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<v Speaker 1>further delays, let's start the show now. Stumping up to

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<v Speaker 1>the mic, the host for Wrestling with Freddy, Freddy jun, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't you guys. So to start this episode, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about Scooby Doo. I had to go to

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<v Speaker 1>a press thing. The cast of Scoop, the whole cast

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<v Speaker 1>had to go, and they flew us to Cancun, Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>And the international rules dictate that whatever state in America

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<v Speaker 1>you crossed the border on on an international flight, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to land at the nearest airport to go through customs.

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<v Speaker 1>So for a private jet, and this was I think

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Costner's jet and Kevin Costner's pilot, our closest from

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<v Speaker 1>there was some small town in Texas, South Texas from Cancun.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're coming in and it is turbulent is not

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<v Speaker 1>the word. The winds are crazy. This plane is We

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<v Speaker 1>felt like the Gilligan's Island ship, like the Chinese ship

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<v Speaker 1>was that was us. So we're literally swerving back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth like the Viking ship at the State Fair, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can't see anything out the window. Sarah's hand is

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<v Speaker 1>on my hand and it's gripped tight like nails through skin.

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<v Speaker 1>My left hand, I'm in the window seat on the

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<v Speaker 1>left side, is gripped to the arm rest, my nails

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<v Speaker 1>into its poor skin, and I'm looking out the window

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden I see the ground except

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<v Speaker 1>not beneath me. I'm looking directly at the ground. The

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<v Speaker 1>plane is about to land sideways on the left wing,

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<v Speaker 1>and my face is about to go through the tarmatic.

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<v Speaker 1>And at the last second, I'm not exaggerating at I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even I've never even told the story. At the

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<v Speaker 1>last second, the plane corrects itself. This pilot was a

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<v Speaker 1>jet corrects itself. And we were coming in hot. We

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<v Speaker 1>came in, We came in hot, and we're sliding and

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<v Speaker 1>slipping and the plane lands, no damage, no anything outside

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, the six and a half years it

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<v Speaker 1>took off my life from the scarring of my heart.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have to get off the plane. Everybody's freaked out,

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<v Speaker 1>and now we have to get right back on the plane,

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<v Speaker 1>take off through this weather, and and get back to

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<v Speaker 1>l A. So I'm freaking out, like, yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I trust the pilot now more than any human, more

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<v Speaker 1>than my wife. But still like we almost died. So

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<v Speaker 1>we get back on the plane. We made it through customs,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, we were totally legit and totally legal,

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<v Speaker 1>and we land in Los Angeles and I vow to

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<v Speaker 1>never fly on a small plane again. It's just life

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<v Speaker 1>is too precious. So a few months later, I get

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<v Speaker 1>this job at w W E. The very first plane

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<v Speaker 1>that I have to get on isn't Vince's. I hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>earned that that seat yet, right, But it's a tiny

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<v Speaker 1>ass plane. I'm sitting on it and all I can

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<v Speaker 1>see is the tarmac of I don't Laredo, Texas, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>airport it was, and I see my death and I

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<v Speaker 1>legit get up and there's other employees w W employees

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<v Speaker 1>on this plane. I was like, yeah, I'm not taking

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<v Speaker 1>this plane. I'm gonna take a train and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>see you guys there. I'm out, and I d boarded

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<v Speaker 1>the plane got off and they were like, yo, are

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<v Speaker 1>you seriously? Like, I'm out. I'm not gonna be late

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<v Speaker 1>the shows tomorrow. I'm not getting on this airplane. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't tell anyone the story I just told you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm not trying to be on this coffin with

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<v Speaker 1>wings for another second. So I get off, take a

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<v Speaker 1>train from Grand Central Terminal, not Grand Central Station, Grand

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<v Speaker 1>Central Terminal, and uh. I take the train to Virginia

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<v Speaker 1>and we do our Monday night raw and everything's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>The train ride goes so well that within three months

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<v Speaker 1>of me doing this, there's an entire new plan in

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<v Speaker 1>the writer's room where all East Coast trips, where the

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<v Speaker 1>train right is four hours or less, the writers are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take a train. Uh that was me that pulled

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<v Speaker 1>that off. I love trains, I always have, and all

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<v Speaker 1>the writers did too, because you have way more room

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<v Speaker 1>to work when you're on the road. You're writing all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, you're rewriting promos at two in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are writing in a laptop. They were not

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<v Speaker 1>high tech back then. They were ghetto. I worked there,

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<v Speaker 1>I think and oh oh nine oh seven something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>so you get the idea of technology was not what

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<v Speaker 1>it is now, and it's brutal. When you're on the train.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a table. Forget that you have room and comfort,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a table to work at. So all the

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<v Speaker 1>writers loved it and they stayed committed to it. And

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<v Speaker 1>then my ask got promoted to the jet, which isn't promotion,

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<v Speaker 1>but isn't because it's crazy on the jet too. So

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<v Speaker 1>I got off the train and they said you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>fly on the jet and I'm sweating when they tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>they go vince. Once you're on the jet, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, all right, okay, and just my my arm

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<v Speaker 1>pits are sweating right now. And I ain't even afraid

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<v Speaker 1>of flying anymore thanks to Vince. Actually, you just kept

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<v Speaker 1>making me do it till I wasn't scared of it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So I get on the jet and the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>Vin says to me when he gets on, he says,

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<v Speaker 1>I heard you had a bit of a problem on

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<v Speaker 1>the last plane, with a smirk like, yeah, man, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not I'm not big on planes. And this is who

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<v Speaker 1>I tell this story too, and he goes, I don't worry.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a better pilot than him anyway. So he uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's very much long before the pandemic, very anti germ.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's more hand sanitizer on this airplane than there

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<v Speaker 1>are bottles of water. So everyone's sanitizing their hands and

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<v Speaker 1>Vince finishes his and he holds out the sanitizer for

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<v Speaker 1>me to sanitize my hands, and I go, oh, that's nice,

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<v Speaker 1>and I put my hands out and he just starts

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<v Speaker 1>squeezing the damn bottle and doesn't stop, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's just ounce after olence after ounce, and I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>at him and I'm not gonna move my hands, because

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<v Speaker 1>I can't have him dump crap all over his plane

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<v Speaker 1>held get mad. So I just sit there and eyeball him.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even look in my hands. I just eyeball

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<v Speaker 1>him the whole time until he finally goes uh and

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<v Speaker 1>it's out. It's one of those small like pure l bottles. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's finally out, and I have this huge glob of

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<v Speaker 1>of sanitizer in my hand. So I walked back to

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom, slopping into the sink. I come back and

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<v Speaker 1>he's chuckling, and he's just doing that to help me

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<v Speaker 1>relax and uh, not worry so much about the flight.

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<v Speaker 1>I see him side on me a couple of times

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<v Speaker 1>on the takeoff and landing and just kind of nod.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really good to me. They were all really

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<v Speaker 1>good to me. So we land and where I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was probably Cleveland. This is during the Misses push.

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<v Speaker 1>The stories I'm gonna tell you today are during the

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<v Speaker 1>Misses push to his first w w E Championship at

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<v Speaker 1>WrestleMania in Atlanta, where they did the giant white letters

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<v Speaker 1>all awesome for his for his entrance. He may have

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<v Speaker 1>already been champ at WrestleMania or that was where he wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll you guys will remember, you have better You're better

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<v Speaker 1>historians than I am. So we're flying to U. We're

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<v Speaker 1>flying to Cleveland. I lived, thankfully. I'm here now talking

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<v Speaker 1>to you, and I'm starting to relax a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And the plane is no joke. It's it's work all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. I mean all the time. I remember once

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<v Speaker 1>I opened my laptop and I had downloaded one of

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Pryor's specials, Richard Pryor Live on the Sunset Strip.

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<v Speaker 1>This was after his accident. He had been humbled big time.

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<v Speaker 1>And most comics when they record a special, they do

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<v Speaker 1>it two nights in a row, and they'll edit between

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<v Speaker 1>the two or just choose the best one. The first

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<v Speaker 1>one Richard did side Quest. It bombed. He for whatever reason.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad's manager was Richard's manager. So that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>know this story. I knew Richard very well, not very well,

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<v Speaker 1>but I knew him. So it died and he was

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<v Speaker 1>okay with it, but he was nervous. And they came

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<v Speaker 1>out and did the second one, and it's the red

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<v Speaker 1>suit that even jokes about. And he does the match,

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<v Speaker 1>he lights the match, he goes, what's that Richard b

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<v Speaker 1>running down the street that it's that special, and he

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<v Speaker 1>just kills it the second night, and that was a

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<v Speaker 1>way for me to just kind of like deal with

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<v Speaker 1>the airplane because I didn't enjoy being on a coffin

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<v Speaker 1>with wings. So I open it up. I'm watching my

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<v Speaker 1>ten minutes in and I feel this like firm thump

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<v Speaker 1>on my shoulder and I turned around and Vince goes,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing? What you mean I'm watching? Richard

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<v Speaker 1>Perry goes, why we're watching WrestleMania. Yeah, from last year. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw it. He goes, yeah, well he's seeing that too.

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<v Speaker 1>I go, yeah, this makes me laugh. He goes, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>watch WrestleMania. So I legit have to turn off my

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<v Speaker 1>laptop and watch WrestleMania from a year ago with with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody else is watching it. He's making me watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I turn it off and I watch it with him,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, we end up getting back and this is this,

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<v Speaker 1>This is it every time, like he'll go over the

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<v Speaker 1>Monday Night Raw script. Never never the smack Down. He

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't even I don't think he read it until the

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<v Speaker 1>morning of SmackDown if he read it. But I will

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<v Speaker 1>say this. I know a lot of actors who do,

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<v Speaker 1>like TV actors who don't read their scripts. They just

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<v Speaker 1>read their dialogue memorize it. There's literally a saying in

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<v Speaker 1>l A that goes, bullshit, bullshit, my line, my line, bullshit.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard it since the nineties. So not every It's

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<v Speaker 1>not just Vince that does that. There's plenty of successful

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<v Speaker 1>people that, God, I know what I'm doing, don't worry

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<v Speaker 1>about it. We would always go over the raw promos

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<v Speaker 1>everything he didn't like. And now you're rewriting on a

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<v Speaker 1>jet and it's not like it's a train. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a table to work at, like everybody's bunched up together.

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<v Speaker 1>They squeeze as many as you're legally allowed to get

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<v Speaker 1>on the plane, and we all these massive laptops because

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like it is now, and we're trying to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, rewrite promos. So I did not It's not

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<v Speaker 1>the experience that you think it's gonna that you think

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be. So we uh we land and I

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<v Speaker 1>started talking to to Roddy because I'm just when I

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid, I just loved him so much, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're chatting about life in the business, and he says, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>your your dad was a stand up comedian. I oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was Freddie Prinzi goes get the hell, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he was oh, of course sorry, so oh yeah, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>your name. And he starts talking to about my pops

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<v Speaker 1>and his love for stand up comedy. So he starts

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<v Speaker 1>talking to me about how he compares doing a promo

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<v Speaker 1>in the ring to stand up comedy, and he starts

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Andy Kaufman, and he starts talking at which

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<v Speaker 1>oh side quest check this out. My pops is the

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<v Speaker 1>only dude to ever get Andy Kaufman to break character

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<v Speaker 1>while he was in character. So this is the seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't know who he is, looking up. Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Carey made a movie about him called Man in the Moon.

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<v Speaker 1>There's probably some biographies that are more accurate. Jim Carrey

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<v Speaker 1>is awesome though in the movie, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>check it out. But he did a lot of like

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<v Speaker 1>risk ay comedy where he would just abuse people in

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<v Speaker 1>the audience and be totally rude and disrespectful and say

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<v Speaker 1>the most crass things and the people in the audience

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<v Speaker 1>will get out. And this woman slapped him dead in

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<v Speaker 1>the face and he drops dead. On the floor and

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<v Speaker 1>that's when the audience realizes the girl was a plant

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<v Speaker 1>and she's in on the joke, and that's why he

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<v Speaker 1>sold the slap so hard. And when unconscious and then

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<v Speaker 1>he pops up and the crowd would just die laughing,

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<v Speaker 1>and he owned them and he Andy had a great

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<v Speaker 1>run with Jerry Lawler back in the early eighties I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was, and they just crushed it. They drew

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<v Speaker 1>huge numbers, huge money. People loved watching it because Andy

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<v Speaker 1>was They thought he was legit crazy. So the Melrose

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<v Speaker 1>improv in Los Angeles, California. It's seventy four or five,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe five, and Andy's on stage and he's tearing

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<v Speaker 1>into this girl, I mean, just calling her every name

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<v Speaker 1>in the book and just be rating her. And the

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<v Speaker 1>crowd's getting hot. They're like, you know, getting mad at

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<v Speaker 1>my dad, who was he had a father, but he

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<v Speaker 1>was basically raised by by I don't want to disparage

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<v Speaker 1>my grandfather, but basically a single woman, all right, So

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't around very much. Shout out Carl brutal. But

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<v Speaker 1>so my dad gets crazy angry. He looks in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the room and he sees Andy just tearing the

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<v Speaker 1>scroll apart, and he wasn't familiar with Andy's act, and

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<v Speaker 1>my dad goes up on stage in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>his bit, grabs Andy and just shakes the shift out

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<v Speaker 1>of him, and Andy starts screaming, Friday, Friday, Friday, It's

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<v Speaker 1>just a bit. She's no, she's with me, She's with me,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's with me. And my dad like freaked out

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<v Speaker 1>and he realized he just ruined a set and then

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<v Speaker 1>literally goes to let go Andy, and Andy smashes himself

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<v Speaker 1>into the fake brick wall and slides down onto the floor.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad looks back and his buddy Tim Thomason tells

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<v Speaker 1>me your dad's thought was, oh my god, I just

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<v Speaker 1>killed Andy Kaufman. And then Andy popped up and got

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<v Speaker 1>my pops and uh, which made my dad laugh but

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<v Speaker 1>also pissed and uh, that was so anyway, that was

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<v Speaker 1>the side quest. Hey, you just leveled up. But Rowdy's

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<v Speaker 1>telling in me how comedy is is a promo in

0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:06.000
<v Speaker 1>the ring and Rowdy if you don't know who Rowdy

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<v Speaker 1>Roddy Piper is. Hey, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.959
<v Speaker 1>Be you should seriously be ashamed of yourselves and see

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube or just watch a cool John Carpenter freaky sci

0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:22.000
<v Speaker 1>fi corporation Aliens take over the World kind of movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called They Live. It's with him and get Here's

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<v Speaker 1>how small the World is. And the other actor in

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<v Speaker 1>it is Keith David, this black dude who was the

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<v Speaker 1>voice of Spawn on the HBO animated series. That was

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<v Speaker 1>my dad's best friend. In high school. They went to

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<v Speaker 1>that fake that Fame High school. I said fake because

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna have real classes. My wife went there the

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<v Speaker 1>Fame High School Performing Arts whatever it's called in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>They were doing, uh, you guys got two side quests.

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<v Speaker 1>They were doing a performance of of Mice and Men.

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<v Speaker 1>Lenny and I was gonna say, Liney and Bruce. That's Lenny, Bruce,

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<v Speaker 1>Lenny and whatever. George and my dad was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>making I'm about to make it, man, I'm about to

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<v Speaker 1>break big. Keith David's our David. Keith is telling me

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<v Speaker 1>this story and he has that great low voice, and

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<v Speaker 1>he says, one day, your father didn't show up for

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<v Speaker 1>her for school, and then he didn't show up for rehearsal,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's when we all knew your dad made it

0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.080
<v Speaker 1>and it was true. It was my dad got this

0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:24.360
<v Speaker 1>gig in Chicago, and Richard Pryor saw my dad perform.

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Prior discovered my father, by the way, and told

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<v Speaker 1>his manager at the time, you know, you got to

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<v Speaker 1>sign this kid, or you're an idiot. And so he

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<v Speaker 1>signed him and the rest was history. So I tell

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<v Speaker 1>you this story because Rowdy in like the next part

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<v Speaker 1>of his life, or that final chapter of his life,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say, because he's no longer with us rest

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<v Speaker 1>and power. He became a stand up comedian and he

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<v Speaker 1>would do listen. He only had about five minutes of

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<v Speaker 1>material that would that would get you. He would do

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<v Speaker 1>ten sometimes well, so you know, he didn't get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of you know, comedy love from the clubs because

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<v Speaker 1>it just wasn't at the level that you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the other people were doing it. But he

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<v Speaker 1>would catch you with like two or three stories, and

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<v Speaker 1>even if the crowd wasn't a wrestling fan, if if

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<v Speaker 1>there could have been none in there, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>such a beautiful storyteller that he would grab you and

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<v Speaker 1>he would do these voices and he could own that

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<v Speaker 1>crowd for a couple of minutes. And I went to

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<v Speaker 1>see him one night with a buddy of mine. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was actually at the Improv which my dad helped

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<v Speaker 1>open back when when it first came out here in

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles. I'm sitting there with this executive producer from

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<v Speaker 1>the Conan O'Brien show who loved wrestling and love comedy

0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:48.840
<v Speaker 1>just like me. So we've gotten to a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>both types of shows together. And uh, We're sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>and we're watching him, and I'm almost crying. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>not because it was so funny or so bad. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just to see him doing what he didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>he could do, but respected so much to the point

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<v Speaker 1>that he compared it to what he did. That's just

0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:19.520
<v Speaker 1>one more person that that Rowdy Piper whose life Rowdy

0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Piper touched, and not just as a kid, but as

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<v Speaker 1>an adult too. And that's what these wrestlers are there artists.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, it's it's it's the literal I've said this before,

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<v Speaker 1>the literal blood, sweat, and tears on a literal canvas.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a massive sacrifice. Man. Guys like Mankind, Cactus Jack,

0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:45.280
<v Speaker 1>you guys always McK foley probably. I mean, that type

0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:49.280
<v Speaker 1>of sacrifice is wild and for some people they can't

0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:53.200
<v Speaker 1>watch it right. Meryl Street hates the UFC. She doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>understand it's mixed martial arts and there's an art and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a beauty to a perfectly executed technique. You're just

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<v Speaker 1>either hip to that form of art or you are

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<v Speaker 1>not hip to that form of art. I like She Devil.

0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I thought Meryl Streep was great in it. No one

0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:11.919
<v Speaker 1>else did. Nobody saw that movie. So which one of

0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:15.120
<v Speaker 1>us is wrong? You know what I mean? Nobody? They're

0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:18.199
<v Speaker 1>picassos that IM like. It's that doesn't really do anything

0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:21.640
<v Speaker 1>for me? How dare you sorry? I like Modri anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was sort of the the impetus is that

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<v Speaker 1>the right word for me to even do the podcast is?

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<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to showcase what I learned about the

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling business, and what I loved most about the wrestling

0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:38.720
<v Speaker 1>business was that it's all art. It's not always it's

0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.480
<v Speaker 1>not always good. But I've seen episodes of Law in

0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Order where I was like, I've seen movies where I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, I wouldn't ever watch that again. I've

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<v Speaker 1>walked out of movies. You have to so careful with

0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.280
<v Speaker 1>your criticism, although a lot of it is valid. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying careful, So I'm riding on the airplane now,

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<v Speaker 1>and give me a day off. By the way, I

0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:04.040
<v Speaker 1>got raw off so that I could uh just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of deal with my own crap. So I get back

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<v Speaker 1>in the office and wait, can I even tek? Okay?

0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I can talk? So free Bird calls me into his office.

0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:22.639
<v Speaker 1>Michael hayes, I can tell it, and he says, uh, Freddy,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta ask you a question, and he looks concerned.

0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:28.959
<v Speaker 1>I go, what's up? Man? He goes, you didn't, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't take a poop on Vincus plane, did you?

0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:34.200
<v Speaker 1>I said, what are you talking about? He says, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no poops on the plane. I said, of course I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about, man, I didn't even use

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<v Speaker 1>the restroom. He goes, well, someone did, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>to find out who. And he's not laughing when he

0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:45.879
<v Speaker 1>says that. Okay, he's piste off, Like what kind of

0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:47.960
<v Speaker 1>job assignment is that? I gotta find out who took

0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:52.000
<v Speaker 1>a ship on my boss's plane. Freaking the best agent

0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:54.680
<v Speaker 1>in the company. I come up with the greatest finishes.

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<v Speaker 1>At least when I was there, all the fans favorite

0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:01.200
<v Speaker 1>finishes were either free Birds or belle ages and usually

0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:04.520
<v Speaker 1>it was a combination of both, and it wasn't anyone else's.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's having to find out who took a poop

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<v Speaker 1>on the plane. Now we'll say this. He never found

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<v Speaker 1>out who it was. But I did I know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>who it was because the dude ratted himself out in

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<v Speaker 1>my hotel room where a group of writers were all

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out and a couple of wrestlers, and literally as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as he said it, two of the other writers

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<v Speaker 1>were in there, and he jumped up and he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>if you tell anyone, anyone, I swear to God. And

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<v Speaker 1>we all had a good laugh. So remember there's no

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<v Speaker 1>poops on the plate. I've been there, and uh, I'm writing.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was this other writer next to me who

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't talk to about this episode, so I won't

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<v Speaker 1>say his name. And he's talking about this show and

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<v Speaker 1>I looked over at him and he goes, yeah, man,

0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:59.280
<v Speaker 1>I love this show. I can't even say the name

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<v Speaker 1>of the show. You'll know in a second. And I said, dude,

0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I I wrote that. He said what. I go, yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote that episode. He was no, you didn't. I

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<v Speaker 1>probably swear to god I didn't I didn't write it

0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:12.920
<v Speaker 1>under my name. It's called ghostwriting. And he goes, what

0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:14.520
<v Speaker 1>are you talking about? I go, where you make more

0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:16.960
<v Speaker 1>money ghostwriting than selling your own damn scripts some of

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<v Speaker 1>the time. I said, I literally the only reason I

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<v Speaker 1>know this. I don't know the show. I've never seen it,

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<v Speaker 1>but the episode you're describing is literally the episode that

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote. He said, what the hell are you talking about?

0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I said, I wrote under a ghost name. It is

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<v Speaker 1>called William Ramirez. William Ramirez was my Papu's name in

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<v Speaker 1>Puerto Rico, and he was I think I've told you

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<v Speaker 1>about him before. He was big, like a pro wrestler,

0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:40.320
<v Speaker 1>was a butcher in San Juan, and nobody wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>I was writing these scripts and I couldn't even get

0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:48.679
<v Speaker 1>him read because of like the businesses perspective on Scooby Doo. Right,

0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:50.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of you saw Scooby Doo and you loved

0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:55.080
<v Speaker 1>it kids, but the studios they looked at it much different. Right.

0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:58.399
<v Speaker 1>It was the original script. I got in trouble for

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<v Speaker 1>saying this a while ago, and then James and echoed

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<v Speaker 1>it a few years later, and everyone was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the courage. So the first script was very much PG.

0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Thirteen for Scooby side quests and uh, and that's what

0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:16.880
<v Speaker 1>got everybody excited about it. A lot of the innuendo

0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:20.840
<v Speaker 1>and the hints that were there over the years, they

0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:23.560
<v Speaker 1>James wrote them in in a very slick way, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the studio wanted to make the movie g

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<v Speaker 1>rated to allow or pig, to allow all kids to

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<v Speaker 1>go without any like parents freaking out and stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>they were worried about drug references and and homosexual references

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that. So as a publicly traded company,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's a legitimate concern that the w W

0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:50.160
<v Speaker 1>has never feared it. But we all land in Australia

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden we have a different script,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna say oho, A couple of the actors

0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:58.119
<v Speaker 1>were like yo, Well one of them was me, I

0:22:58.119 --> 0:22:59.760
<v Speaker 1>want to say. The other one was was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>is in what I sawt en up for? And uh,

0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:05.679
<v Speaker 1>we were good soldiers and and we did our we

0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:08.679
<v Speaker 1>did our thing. But because of that, after that movie,

0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:11.959
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people were interested in my scripts before it,

0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:14.480
<v Speaker 1>and then afterwards they were like, I just does kids

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<v Speaker 1>movies now, we don't want to read it. So I

0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:20.240
<v Speaker 1>legit used a fake name, William Ramirez, and I sold

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<v Speaker 1>like three scripts in one year, and that I put

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<v Speaker 1>my name by the way, one of the deals went

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<v Speaker 1>away when they found out that it was me. All

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, they had all these notes that they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have the week before because the guy from Scooby

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't know how to write a script. So anyway, I'm

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:38.840
<v Speaker 1>sitting there and I'm writing this segment and its first

0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:43.120
<v Speaker 1>SmackDown and he goes, what are you writing? And I said,

0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:48.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing this thing for for Jeff Hardy And he

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 1>said what is it? And I said, I was told

0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:54.560
<v Speaker 1>not to say anything. So Freebird had come up to

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<v Speaker 1>me a couple, uh, probably weeks prior, and he said, uh,

0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:02.399
<v Speaker 1>DJ has an idea, wants to try to make Jeff

0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Champ talking about Jeff Hardy and it's not gonna happen.

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:10.920
<v Speaker 1>They have to understand Michael brought Matt and Jeff Hardy

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<v Speaker 1>into the w W E. They're his boy, they're his babies. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>He has fought for them. I mean he fought for

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<v Speaker 1>them every damn day that I was there, and from

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<v Speaker 1>what I was told, he fought for them every damn

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<v Speaker 1>day before and after. He loves those guys. He would

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<v Speaker 1>kill for those guys. He would lie in court. Will

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<v Speaker 1>he probably in court for any of us, but he

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<v Speaker 1>would like in court for those guys. And a loyal

0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:41.480
<v Speaker 1>freebird is the baddest bird owner. Okay, so he's telling me, look,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna happen. But a lot of my promos

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<v Speaker 1>had been getting over with the boss, and he thought

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I would have the best shot at getting a

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Hardy Championship story to fruition. I tried to take

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<v Speaker 1>the more understanding approach that I had on my father

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<v Speaker 1>at the age I was then and apply it to

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff so to get into that when I was young,

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<v Speaker 1>I hated my dad like I would get so mad

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<v Speaker 1>at him for the choices he made. He did drugs,

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<v Speaker 1>screwed around on my mom, messed up a lot in

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<v Speaker 1>every aspect of life, and then on my mother's birthday,

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<v Speaker 1>but a gun to his head and the courts ruled

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<v Speaker 1>it an accidental shooting. A lot of people call it

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<v Speaker 1>a suicide. Um. Some people have said that there was

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<v Speaker 1>a note, even though there wasn't a note, But that's

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<v Speaker 1>just how these stories kind of take on the life

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<v Speaker 1>of their own um, and the courts ruled it what

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<v Speaker 1>they ruled it. The point is I didn't want I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to understand my father at all. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I met this woman who is still one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most influential people I've ever met in my life as

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<v Speaker 1>far as the effect she had on me. And her

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<v Speaker 1>name is Pam Greer, and if you don't know who PAYM.

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<v Speaker 1>Greer is, you need to google her. In the seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as the power of beauty went, she had

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<v Speaker 1>more of it than any other woman on the planet.

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<v Speaker 1>Every man loved her. That wasn't racist, and even though

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<v Speaker 1>probably did, and every woman respected her because she portrayed strength.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've read her biography, If you haven't, you should.

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<v Speaker 1>She talks about my father a lot, and it she

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<v Speaker 1>talks about Richard Bryor and Kareem Abdul Jabbar, the three

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<v Speaker 1>loves of her life. I started to speak to her

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<v Speaker 1>and I learned a lot more about who my father was.

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<v Speaker 1>My family, of course, would try to protect the child

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<v Speaker 1>right and when you're a junior, you have to remember

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<v Speaker 1>you basically exist as a statue to honor that which

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<v Speaker 1>walked before you. It's very difficult any junior out there

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<v Speaker 1>can relate. You usually are pushed or leaned somehow into

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<v Speaker 1>your predecessor's profession. You're compared to the value of the

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<v Speaker 1>name that came before you all the time. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think Pam knew that. And instead of protecting me, she

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<v Speaker 1>was very honest, and she told me about how much

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<v Speaker 1>she loved my father, why she loved my father. She

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<v Speaker 1>talked about what a fool he was with money, the

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<v Speaker 1>types of choices and mistakes he made. And in the seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people made those choices and mistakes, but

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them are just choices. The great M. V.

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<v Speaker 1>P Will tell you that choice is not mistakes. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, just meeting Pam Greer, and I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be funny, but any man will understand this. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, I mean, it's so he's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so he so he fooled around, you know, it's Pam Greer.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not trying to be a jerk about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's just something amazing about her, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>just something captivating about her. And they were also they

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<v Speaker 1>had a relationship before he even knew my mother as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So she starts breaking it down, and she breaks down

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<v Speaker 1>the need for artists to medicate. You just have to

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<v Speaker 1>hope they find the right medicine. And your father never did.

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<v Speaker 1>And that hit hard, so hard that I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>write it into a wrestling storyline, but I did, And

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<v Speaker 1>it started off with a number between him and m

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<v Speaker 1>v P, who's uh still a dear friend of mine

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<v Speaker 1>to this day, and I hope to have mine as

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<v Speaker 1>a guest. So I don't want to share too many

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:31.640
<v Speaker 1>MVP stories because I'd rather him tell him, because he's

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<v Speaker 1>just he's a better storyteller than I am. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>people think I made movies in the nineties and oh

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<v Speaker 1>how cool this and that. You know, I had two

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 1>friends in high school too, okay, not three, not five,

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 1>not two, and a bunch of acquaintances. Two friends. I

0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 1>was a dork. I didn't know who I was. I

0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't have girlfriend. I didn't I broke up with a

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 1>girl in the sixth grade because she kissed me on

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<v Speaker 1>the cheek. That's how I called her. Name was Laura Eichelberger.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out, Laura, we love you girl, Um, sorry for

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:03.680
<v Speaker 1>breaking up with you. That was me, not you. But

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<v Speaker 1>I was not I'm still not cool. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just lucky that Sarah laughs in my stories. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>only reason she keeps me around. But if you think

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<v Speaker 1>about it, the two guests I've had so far both

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<v Speaker 1>played Dungeons and Dragons. One of them is a psychopath

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and one of them loves it more than

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<v Speaker 1>anything on earth. So do I you can. I gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have more guests you can find out played d D

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<v Speaker 1>two and they're gigantic, beautiful, awesome professional wrestlers. But a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of artists are the outcasts. I think there was

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<v Speaker 1>a line in a Robert Downey Jr. Movie that f

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<v Speaker 1>Gary Gray directed, and I can't remember the name, but

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<v Speaker 1>he said, it's like someone on the East Coast grabbed

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<v Speaker 1>it by the edge, shook the ship out of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and all the insecure, weak people ended up in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's true because it's a city of dreamers. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's all the dreamers from these small towns that feel

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<v Speaker 1>that they need something bigger than that. It's all these

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<v Speaker 1>dreamers from other places that go Hollywood's or New York

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<v Speaker 1>Is where my dreams can come true and they have

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<v Speaker 1>the guts and the courage to go after that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the wrestler's life. Now it's a little different with n

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 1>x T. You're getting paid to learn how to wrestle.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's a that's a privilege. Okay, I'm not getting

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<v Speaker 1>paid to go on auditions to act, and a lot

0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:27.560
<v Speaker 1>of wrestlers aren't getting paid to go, you know, on

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<v Speaker 1>the road, drive eight hours to get somewhere to do

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 1>a match. That won't pay for the gas that they

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 1>used to get there. But they need the work, they

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<v Speaker 1>need the experience that that takes courage. It takes courage

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<v Speaker 1>to express yourself honestly or going personally. Now to express

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 1>yourself honestly, um a lot personally, but to have the

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 1>courage to do that is really hard. I'm telling you.

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<v Speaker 1>Earlier in my career I didn't. I still I look

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<v Speaker 1>back on my career and I've only seen three things

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<v Speaker 1>I've done because I don't like watching movies when I

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<v Speaker 1>know the end and I've already read the script. But

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could change every single moment in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if people love it. It still makes me mad

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<v Speaker 1>because I became a better actor the older I got,

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<v Speaker 1>the more of my baggage I let go. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing in the wrestling business. That's what the

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<v Speaker 1>promo classes were all about. Fail here and wake up

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<v Speaker 1>the next day, Okay, and know that I still love

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 1>you and I'm still going to write for you. And

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't send a video of your of your bad

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<v Speaker 1>take to the boss. Everything's cool, and it allows you

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<v Speaker 1>to fail less when the pressure is on. Like we

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 1>said with with Xavier Woods, there's no such thing as luck.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no such thing as luck. It's just about being

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<v Speaker 1>prepared when the opportunity presents itself. And the people that

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<v Speaker 1>went out and party the night before and at ten

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 1>a m. The next day they were still in bed. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how I booked a lot of my movies, was

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for that actor to not show up and lie

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<v Speaker 1>about my name. But yet that's me. Yes, I'm Ryan Philippie.

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<v Speaker 1>They you very much. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>But you gotta take a shot. That's the more of

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<v Speaker 1>today's episode. You gotta take a shot. I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>guys like listening, but I'll speak to you guys soon.

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<v Speaker 1>H This was a very like heartwarming episode, not one

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<v Speaker 1>of our funnier ones, but I hope it was still

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<v Speaker 1>meaningful to you and I hope it connected to you

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<v Speaker 1>in some way, and if it did, you're a wrestling

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 1>fan because wrestling just connected with you. So thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>listening to Wrestling with Freddie. This has been a production

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