Speaker 1: Toss Popcorn is a production of iHeartRadio. We are back Baby. Hello.
Speaker 2: Hello, I'm Leanna Holsten, I'm Sianna Jacole, and welcome back
Speaker 2: to Toss Popcorn, the podcast where two idiots watched every
Speaker 2: film on the AFI's one hundred Greatest American Movies of
Speaker 2: All Time, the very slightly less racist tenth Anniversary edition,
Speaker 2: and are now watching films directed by went In.
Speaker 1: Yes, I forgot I have to talk next. I was like,
Speaker 1: she's really taking this time for emphasis. It's awesome. This
Speaker 1: podcast is a safe hotel room for people who don't
Speaker 1: know anything about movies. Today we're watching good Luck to
Speaker 1: You Leo Grant number three. We do a sixty nine,
Speaker 1: if that's what it's still called. I don't know for
Speaker 1: me on Top five talky style, is that right?
Speaker 2: M I don't know if you can say I saw
Speaker 2: your titles on your documents and I loved them.
Speaker 1: I got all the words. Okay, uh warning, there will
Speaker 1: be spoilers about this this recent this recent movie I
Speaker 1: just can't wait to talk about. I don't okay, what
Speaker 1: do we do now?
Speaker 2: Predictions?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's been so long. I've been all across
Speaker 1: all over the world, of Western I've seen so many
Speaker 1: things that's really changed me and.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, well can't talk about that yet. Sienna,
Speaker 2: could please hear your prediction for and what did you think?
Speaker 3: It was?
Speaker 2: Called? Good Luck? Leo Grande?
Speaker 1: Hi, Leanna, this is Sienna, welcome back, thank you of us.
Speaker 1: I'm about to watch good Luck Leo Grand Leo Grande.
Speaker 1: I don't know what this is about, but I did
Speaker 1: while looking it up see that it's uh, it is
Speaker 1: Emma Thompson and then the guy from the young Guy
Speaker 1: from Bad Sisters are together in a movie and they're
Speaker 1: sitting in front of a bed. So I wonder if
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like a what do they call it?
Speaker 1: A winter, a winter spring relationship?
Speaker 2: I didn't know what it was winter winter, two seasons
Speaker 2: right after each other.
Speaker 1: So anyway, I'll be interested in how that is. I
Speaker 1: love you, goodbye.
Speaker 2: Great Well, here's my prediction. What so I'm April in
Speaker 2: your March. That's fine. I don't get it. I don't
Speaker 2: understand it's regular. Okay, ready mm hmmm, hello Sienna, Leanna
Speaker 2: remember me. Yes, I'm about good luck to you, Leo
Speaker 2: grand Grand. I don't know anything about this besides Emma
Speaker 2: Thompson and a little young hobby are in it, and
Speaker 2: I assume they bang and good for her. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: must be nice. Jealous, I predict. Oh, I hope I
Speaker 2: have a fun time. Love you bye. I.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm not talking about it yet. We have
Speaker 1: to wait.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, all right.
Speaker 1: I just want to know your general vibe, your general
Speaker 1: vibe before we get into it in a bit.
Speaker 2: My general vibe is I have a lot of appreciation
Speaker 2: and time for this film, and I think I'm severely
Speaker 2: sexually repressed, and you.
Speaker 1: I definitely I was waiting for it to become less
Speaker 1: lame at certain times. There's a lot of things I
Speaker 1: really liked for what they were going for, But when
Speaker 1: it got to the very end and then they were
Speaker 1: having a really fun time like doing it, I was like,
Speaker 1: this is what I thought we were going to be
Speaker 1: doing more of the time. So so anyway, I just
Speaker 1: wanted her to be I wanted her to be getting down.
Speaker 1: That's kind of the whole point is that she's talking
Speaker 1: about it for a long time, which I also think
Speaker 1: is great, like the we'll talk about all the conversation
Speaker 1: and stuff I thought were very real, very lovely there
Speaker 1: were certain things that went kind of came back around
Speaker 1: to being not appropriate.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: Anyway, all right, all right, general vibes, okay.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, much to discuss my firsty girl, Hey girl,
Speaker 2: welcome back.
Speaker 1: Thanks, welcome back from your grande tour by grande tour
Speaker 1: across the real grande.
Speaker 2: Ooh, oh my god god. And we haven't really spoken.
Speaker 1: No, I've spoken.
Speaker 2: We've handled a few tax things. Oh my god. You
Speaker 2: had coffee with my parents.
Speaker 1: I had.
Speaker 2: You were in my parents'.
Speaker 1: Home with your parents and they're listening right now. Hello,
Speaker 1: Hello to JB and Ann. Thank you so much again
Speaker 1: for hosting me. Your father picked me up and brought
Speaker 1: me back home. It was okay. You've been in my
Speaker 1: dad's car. I've been in your dad's car. I've been
Speaker 1: in that Ford vehicle. I guess not your childhood home
Speaker 1: because you know they're later.
Speaker 2: But I've been all around.
Speaker 1: I've seen all the art.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what were your takeaways?
Speaker 1: First impressions, last impressions.
Speaker 2: Let's hear see.
Speaker 1: Some of the color scheme really was very Leanna, and
Speaker 1: I thought that was so cute. There was like a
Speaker 1: boy's edge mm hmm.
Speaker 3: That was nice. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Really that cool kinetic art piece in the bathroom that
Speaker 1: was like a little wooden Oh yeah, did you like
Speaker 1: that guy going like, eh, I loved it. I loved
Speaker 1: that guy.
Speaker 3: Great.
Speaker 1: There was some gorgeous art. There was the the the
Speaker 1: these western landscapes with these little foxes downstairs.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, loved I think might even be a coyote.
Speaker 1: Coyote makes more sense, coyote.
Speaker 2: Oh how fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a delightful time.
Speaker 2: There is a lot of art.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you guys have a lot of art. Yeah, geez,
Speaker 1: it was amazing. It was everything I dreamed.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's so how fun. Cianna was passing
Speaker 2: through Denver, Colorado on tour and she went to my parents' house. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: It was awesome.
Speaker 2: Can I get something? We need hours to really digest
Speaker 2: the tour. But are there any like big bullet points,
Speaker 2: big highlights? Well, we talked, so everybody survived.
Speaker 1: We survived. To be honest, that like surviving health wise,
Speaker 1: being in the car spending that much time together actually
Speaker 1: went fine. We were in the.
Speaker 2: Car for so long that we tried to learn telepathy. Okay,
Speaker 2: and weirdly like that's the first I've heard of that happening.
Speaker 2: That's not like a like, you know, if a human's
Speaker 2: in a car for a long time. I don't know
Speaker 2: that everybody jumps straight to well time to learn. It's
Speaker 2: been enough hours.
Speaker 1: I can probably podcast going around about kids who are
Speaker 1: like literally telepathic, and we just had all these hours
Speaker 1: to listen to and then we were just sitting in
Speaker 1: the car, so we were trying to do telepathy on ourselves.
Speaker 1: But honestly, it was it was a fun way to
Speaker 1: spend our time. It was very goofy, and I feel
Speaker 1: that I'm leaving the tour much more spiritual, really get ready.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well yeah, I just had time. Desert will
Speaker 1: do that to you as well. So it was really
Speaker 1: nice to be in other places. And it was the
Speaker 1: context of what I was doing, Like it was very clear,
Speaker 1: very structured, and we had a very obvious stuff to
Speaker 1: do every day. So I was just focused on the
Speaker 1: show we're going to put on. But uh, there's like
Speaker 1: the urgency. The feeling of urgency in Los Angeles is unparalleled.
Speaker 1: I didn't experience it anywhere else. I'm not saying they
Speaker 1: don't have their own stuff other places, but they like
Speaker 1: must make my things happen now, must figure out what
Speaker 1: they are, must sell myself, must tell everybody. It just
Speaker 1: wasn't the same vibe. People were just coming to our
Speaker 1: shows to have a good time.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh hell nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And on the very first day that I went
Speaker 1: to these I was at one of these shows because
Speaker 1: we played there was like three musicians before us, and
Speaker 1: then we performed with a musician during his entire show.
Speaker 1: I realized that I had, in order to survive for
Speaker 1: this month, I had to become extremely zen at live
Speaker 1: music events because normally I'm just waiting till I can
Speaker 1: go home.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I understand, but I think.
Speaker 1: This is what I mean about being spiritual is I
Speaker 1: learned that I am more powerful than I think. I
Speaker 1: can sit there for longer than I think I can
Speaker 1: survive sitting in a car for more than I think,
Speaker 1: like a more elastic Wow. I give myself credit for
Speaker 1: so oh my gosh, Yeah, it was actually a really
Speaker 1: good experience to have at this moment of my life.
Speaker 2: Gosh, how very revelatory. Yeah, well I get that anyway.
Speaker 1: So those are some takeaways. Thank you very much for listening.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to break war down, but to be honest,
Speaker 1: survived better than you would think. The survival.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad to hear it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to being squeezed into small spaces and stuff.
Speaker 1: Just yea, a tall middle child.
Speaker 2: Oh that's just pictured that as the cover of a
Speaker 2: children's book. Just now, that's a tall little child.
Speaker 1: The tall middle child.
Speaker 2: And you're always on a road trip in the back
Speaker 2: of like a subaru, a mid sized sedan of some sort.
Speaker 2: Hey girl, hey girl, Okay, this girl got her visa.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that girl crazy.
Speaker 2: I got my visa this week. We signed a two
Speaker 2: year lease on our of our We renewed our our
Speaker 2: lease on our flat for two more years.
Speaker 1: Right because Eliza also got it right.
Speaker 2: Yes, my flatmate got there visa and thank god it's
Speaker 2: We feel such relief. And I've been experiencing joy over
Speaker 2: the past like three.
Speaker 1: Weeks, which is very odd.
Speaker 2: Feels anachronistic in these times and selfish and also necessary.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: It's confusing, and also you got to take the winds
Speaker 2: where you get them. It's also British summertime.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: We did daylight saving this past weekend, so the sun
Speaker 2: is out, the.
Speaker 1: Sun isn't here.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, it's crazy. There's something very like ft
Speaker 2: about living in a place that has really dark gray winters. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's something really eft about how much I like that
Speaker 2: because of the stark relief that it throws the spring
Speaker 2: and summer into when they finally happen.
Speaker 1: I get it. I was thinking the other day about
Speaker 1: how much my life revolves around relief. I love the
Speaker 1: feeling of relief.
Speaker 2: Hey, speaking of can I check in about how the
Speaker 2: fiber coordination went on the tour?
Speaker 1: When I saw my dad, he was like, your listeners
Speaker 1: want to know where you stopped up? Yeah, and the
Speaker 1: coordination was successful. Yes, I had no issues, which, honest,
Speaker 1: my god, I can't.
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
Speaker 1: I really set my mind to it. I got in
Speaker 1: that car the very first day and I was like,
Speaker 1: I just can't let myself become miserable.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm just like, well, and oh, right now, currently,
Speaker 2: what's happening? Currently? Right now? I finally allowed myself to
Speaker 2: order hair products online. Wow, instead of making myself go
Speaker 2: to a specific store that would have this specific product
Speaker 2: because in my head, I'm like, well it's more carbon whatever,
Speaker 2: take the bus somewhere whatever, and it's a less wasteful packaging.
Speaker 2: Something I ordered this Thursday night. There was a promo
Speaker 2: code on the website that gave you free delivery, so
Speaker 2: I picked one day delivery. It arrived this afternoon and
Speaker 2: it's in my hair now, and I was like, huh,
Speaker 2: that really was beneficial. My life has benefited from that greatly,
Speaker 2: And that's that's interesting going. These are the products that
Speaker 2: I used to use in La. So I'm having a
Speaker 2: lot of olfactory memory because my hair smells now like
Speaker 2: it did when I lived in La. Wow, Like I
Speaker 2: was ready for us to do a walk around the
Speaker 2: block in West Hollywood to warm up for the pot.
Speaker 2: You know, I might re enter a slut era, which
Speaker 2: I wasn't in in La but I was hoping to
Speaker 2: be at a time when you smelled that you thought
Speaker 2: I'm about to be a slut Yes, genuinely, yes. So
Speaker 2: let's see.
Speaker 1: Let's see that mixed with this movie.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. Honestly, I think the two in combo in
Speaker 2: concert with one another, putting them in a dialogue with
Speaker 2: one another. The film and my hair product. It's going
Speaker 2: to launch you, Oh my god. Okay, let's get into it.
Speaker 2: Let's launch into Sienna. Could you please give us a
Speaker 2: synopsis of good luck to you, Leo Grand Grand.
Speaker 1: Yes, good luck to you, Leo Grant. Emma Thompson hires
Speaker 1: a sex worker to learn what more life has to
Speaker 1: offer sexually. She ends up learning a lot more than
Speaker 1: that the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, the movie takes place pretty much just in
Speaker 2: a hotel room.
Speaker 1: Almost the whole time. The only two characters are these
Speaker 1: guys until sort of the last scene. We don't see
Speaker 1: we're talking to anyone else about anything. They're just having conversations,
Speaker 1: some of which are really interesting and some of which
Speaker 1: I'd say they toggle between interesting and important and preachy
Speaker 1: and a.
Speaker 2: Kind of lame.
Speaker 1: That's what.
Speaker 2: Okay, hmm, it's a very gorgeous Irish man in your
Speaker 2: bed right now.
Speaker 1: You've got three minutes to enjoy that. We'll be right back.
Speaker 2: But okay, let's take Emma Thompson. They could put her
Speaker 2: in anything. Oh, let's do our phone, let's do well, everybody,
Speaker 2: let's talk about the movie.
Speaker 1: If you may remember our podcast Toss Popcorn from Notes,
Speaker 1: this is where we talk about the notes we took
Speaker 1: on our phones while watching the film.
Speaker 2: MMMM, and the film that Sienna in your voice recording
Speaker 2: you called good.
Speaker 1: Luckily, Luckily, O good luck and I love. On a
Speaker 1: great note, you've said, I'm sorry, but a man humming
Speaker 1: is unsettling.
Speaker 2: The film opens in darkness with a man humming quietly
Speaker 2: to himself, and I said, oh, a serial killer. Hmmmmmmmmmmm, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's I don't Why are you humming? It did not
Speaker 2: come up again as a man.
Speaker 1: Why are you humming what you have to hum about
Speaker 1: as a man? Why would you be humming?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I have a big thing about that with as
Speaker 2: a man. Why are you five foot nine? We can't
Speaker 2: be the same height, be something else, be.
Speaker 1: Any other height. I of course disagree, but I can't
Speaker 1: say don't I disagree with that, but of course disagree.
Speaker 1: I think five eight is the perfect height for man
Speaker 1: I want. And I'm happy for you that that's how
Speaker 1: you feel. There are parts of this movie where I
Speaker 1: was just I was. I found myself being disappointed at
Speaker 1: certain things, which I'll comment on your next note. Actually
Speaker 1: that you've said this walked so baby girl could run,
Speaker 1: and I just I was waiting for this movie to
Speaker 1: be more daring. I know that's not what it was,
Speaker 1: but just even a little bit, just a little bit
Speaker 1: more like you know, they don't they show her naked
Speaker 1: at the very last second, and if it's like as
Speaker 1: if it's like a big prize that we all want,
Speaker 1: when I'm like, just show her naked, like, just let
Speaker 1: her be naked.
Speaker 2: But I get this, it's interesting. I get this is Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I will say I loved how Emma Thompson played
Speaker 1: everything because though I think if this had been the
Speaker 1: script had been given to somebody else, it might have
Speaker 1: been quite flat. She she is just such a good actress.
Speaker 1: I really also like her being scared and nervous and
Speaker 1: all the things like that was all very real and
Speaker 1: very like. Yeah, she she portrays those like human The
Speaker 1: stress of wanting to do something but not wanting to
Speaker 1: was like the whole thing. So I did love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I see Ia. You noted. Oh they're sitting
Speaker 2: and talking.
Speaker 1: Hmm.
Speaker 2: I guess this is gonna be the movie.
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 2: Did you think it was just gonna be like a
Speaker 2: two hour fuck fest? Was that what you were thinking?
Speaker 1: I guess I thought it would be. I didn't think much.
Speaker 1: I thought there would be okay, certain scenes I could
Speaker 1: have imagined in this, and I don't want, like, this
Speaker 1: is what it was, so I'm not saying it should
Speaker 1: have done this instead. I just when I was expecting
Speaker 1: it would be more of like, you know, she experiences
Speaker 1: something tastefully, we don't have to see it, but then
Speaker 1: it's her with her girlfriends being like, have you ever
Speaker 1: been eating out before? You wanted it to be sex
Speaker 1: In the city, She and her three other friends are
Speaker 1: sitting at brunch, their normal brunch spot where they meet
Speaker 1: up every episode. They say, have you ever been eaten
Speaker 1: up before? And they all discuss it. One of them
Speaker 1: is roprude about it, yeah, the other does it all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 2: That's what I wanted. And the fourth one's a lesbian.
Speaker 2: Yeah right.
Speaker 1: I literally think that is kind of what I was imagining.
Speaker 1: But I just I guess I'm a little bit. I
Speaker 1: really love what's happening culturally about us, like showing older
Speaker 1: women and talking about what it's like to age and
Speaker 1: still he experienced sexuality, Like how do we show that?
Speaker 1: But like showing it in movies and just the way
Speaker 1: like society treats you, blah blah blah, all this stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we're we're uh, we are reckoning with
Speaker 1: it now in movies. Yeah, but I just was like,
Speaker 1: it's Emma Thompson. Let her be brave, let her just
Speaker 1: boldly bone, let us see all the like nudity we
Speaker 1: see with older women too. Are that I've been and
Speaker 1: I need to, I haven't. I don't watch I don't
Speaker 1: watch that many nude movies, so maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2: But you know the genre nude movie, they're like they
Speaker 2: only ever showed them where they like look as young
Speaker 2: as possible and stuff. Yeah, I mean when it's like
Speaker 2: Nicole Kidman yeaheah, it's like, okay.
Speaker 1: Great, we've made sure to bring a person who, like
Speaker 1: their entire career, they have to look as young as possible.
Speaker 1: So since she like just looks a little bit more
Speaker 1: her age, and that was like sort of the point,
Speaker 1: just like a little bit episode. Yeah, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: get down to it. But that's like a separate thing
Speaker 1: from who her character is, which is like totally easing in.
Speaker 1: So I was conflicted about that point. I just I
Speaker 1: guess I got bothered when it felt like the movie
Speaker 1: felt whoever put the movie out, like Disney plus felt
Speaker 1: like really proud of itself. You know. That was like,
Speaker 1: let this woman get fingered.
Speaker 2: Oh, my god, that is really interesting. I didn't feel
Speaker 2: any of that at all, really, I really yeah, well,
Speaker 2: I hm. For a lot of it, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is my autobiography, and then watching a biopic like
Speaker 2: looking in the mirror, So I think all of her
Speaker 2: feelings of like fear and shame and not like cowardice,
Speaker 2: but like feeling like she is a coward, and then
Speaker 2: judging herself for that. All of that stuff I was
Speaker 2: really resonating with. Yeah, and just that concept of like
Speaker 2: this thing that you've wanted for so long, but having
Speaker 2: so much fear around it and not even knowing what
Speaker 2: it is that you really want from it, or like
Speaker 2: what aspects of it are the ones that you want. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all of that and so like as a result all
Speaker 2: of the scenes being like nothing actually really happening until
Speaker 2: kind of like the third meeting.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think her behavior
Speaker 3: felt until I would say the third meeting, I think
Speaker 3: her behavior.
Speaker 2: I was like, yes, I think this is exactly what
Speaker 2: I would be doing. Also, particularly when she was like
Speaker 2: my son is so boring. I love that. I love
Speaker 2: how she hated her kids. I was like, man, that
Speaker 2: is how I would feel because I'd be damn sure
Speaker 2: to raise a boy who is not a murderer, Like
Speaker 2: it's just not evil, not an evil man. But as
Speaker 2: a result, he would probably turn out to be pretty boring.
Speaker 1: She's like, I just don't think he's that cool. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, yeah, there are a lot of things
Speaker 1: like I liked him. I feel like that's a good
Speaker 1: example too, of how that generation got kind of screwed uncertain,
Speaker 1: like she like had to. She might not have wanted
Speaker 1: to be a mom that bad. She doesn't live, you know.
Speaker 1: But she's like, yeah, this is what I was supposed
Speaker 1: to do. I'm supposed to get married, I'm supposed to
Speaker 1: just like be with this man. He got to decide
Speaker 1: what sex was for us. I never really got to
Speaker 1: feel comfortable or safe like exploring anything. I felt like
Speaker 1: that was all really beautiful and real.
Speaker 3: Also, I like.
Speaker 1: That they do even though there was like a few
Speaker 1: things going that's the whole point of the movie. There's
Speaker 1: like many things going on. They talk about sex work,
Speaker 1: they talk about being older, they talk about like being
Speaker 1: scared about sex. They talk about like trying to make
Speaker 1: sex fun and it being hard, and like all this
Speaker 1: very real stuff. I found myself getting mad about some
Speaker 1: of the like be brave about showing older women, but
Speaker 1: at the same time, like the fact that it's just
Speaker 1: a movie that talks about sex is being scary for
Speaker 1: someone who's not just like sixteen and then does it
Speaker 1: in the next episode type of thing, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like, I really appreciated that because it's like
Speaker 1: it is a big it's a big topic with so
Speaker 1: many feelings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they just.
Speaker 1: Like regard it as such even though she's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've had my life and I've like been doing it
Speaker 1: or whatever, but I still feel like I know nothing totally.
Speaker 2: And I think like the act of it being scary,
Speaker 2: and then also the concept of asking for what you
Speaker 2: want being such a scary thing. And it doesn't have
Speaker 2: to be like specifically sexually, but just that idea of like,
Speaker 2: I do think I want this, This is something I
Speaker 2: need and I would like you to provide that for
Speaker 2: me is something I particularly non men, are so socialized
Speaker 2: into not doing. So it felt groundbreaking in some ways.
Speaker 2: It definitely felt it felt like kind of the beginner
Speaker 2: level of conversation, particularly around sex work. I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: which I feel like it kind of had to be
Speaker 2: like it just was there's no way this was going
Speaker 2: to get like made by a studio without having like
Speaker 2: the entry level very basic, yes convos nothing to advanced,
Speaker 2: you know, which.
Speaker 1: They had about a lot of things, like I called
Speaker 1: all the girls in my class sluts and he was like,
Speaker 1: you shouldn't.
Speaker 2: Do that, and she's like, yeah, well I guess, I
Speaker 2: guess I'm sorry that I called you a slut.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're thinking that this could appeal to many
Speaker 1: generations of people. This is actually, you know, the beginner
Speaker 1: level should be out there and maybe we don't need
Speaker 1: people getting slammed and pounded the whole time.
Speaker 2: This is so I feel like we've switched getting slammed
Speaker 2: and pounded.
Speaker 1: Isn't that weird?
Speaker 2: I was surprised too. Is this is this because you're
Speaker 2: more spiritual now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've become more spiritual, and I just I'm open
Speaker 1: to it. No, It's like I get when when things
Speaker 1: feel really proud of themselves, I like can get really
Speaker 1: turned off. And I'm not saying that's how they were
Speaker 1: the whole time, but like at the end they showed
Speaker 1: and I it was both the moment where she felt
Speaker 1: more free to like try things, which is great. But
Speaker 1: also I felt the movie being like, but you didn't
Speaker 1: think we'd show that, And I was like, you could
Speaker 1: have done it, you could, but but it's just also
Speaker 1: just because I was deciding to be mad at that
Speaker 1: at the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, Oh, ci Ia, you wrote little
Speaker 2: bush foreshadowing.
Speaker 1: Do you remember this at all? I thought of you
Speaker 1: because she said the word bush she was talking about
Speaker 1: she was telling a story. It actually might have been
Speaker 1: the story where she talked about like the sexually exciting.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, in Italy or Greece or wherever, and she
Speaker 2: was by a little bush.
Speaker 1: She was like, that was a little bush.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, well, ironically there was no
Speaker 2: bush at the end, I know, and I said, oh
Speaker 2: my god, which I also was, well, well, now I'm
Speaker 2: behind de brave, be brave, let her have a bush.
Speaker 2: But I was surprised. Oh, okay, ci Any, you noted
Speaker 2: I am disturbed by how bright it is at any
Speaker 2: given time feels like a new Hayze code.
Speaker 1: Were you noticing how bright it was?
Speaker 2: I was? I was, And I was confused by that
Speaker 2: because they kept saying tonight, now, in fairness, if this
Speaker 2: was all during the summer, the sun doesn't set until
Speaker 2: like nine pm, so if they're meeting at like seven
Speaker 2: a seven to nine window, it will be pretty bright outside.
Speaker 2: But absolutely no, I feel like it was on purpose
Speaker 2: to kind of like it's it's it's an interestingly unsexy film,
Speaker 2: and that's the point, right, And I feel like it
Speaker 2: not ever having like mood lighted point is part of
Speaker 2: that because it makes it makes all of it feel
Speaker 2: a little You're just less relaxed about it the whole time,
Speaker 2: and it feels a little bit internetle sometimes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was.
Speaker 2: Was it dark at the end, Yeah, it was darker
Speaker 2: at the end.
Speaker 1: That makes sense. Oh so maybe it was a choice.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was a cinematic choice. I just like never
Speaker 1: grew darker. It made me so uncomfortable. Yeah, but again,
Speaker 1: that's that's actually pretty effective then. Just like what I
Speaker 1: did like about it being bright is that I liked
Speaker 1: the idea that she booked it super super early so
Speaker 1: that they could spend the entire evening, which is good
Speaker 1: because if I were in some sort of sexual situation
Speaker 1: that had a time around it, I would feel so stressed.
Speaker 2: Oh sure, but I wanted to talk about how they
Speaker 2: when we have two hours oh crap. I imagine on
Speaker 2: the first one. God, I'd be under deress. I mean
Speaker 2: the way she made a list and was like, we've
Speaker 2: got a lot to get to me. I love to
Speaker 2: do this than this, than this and this, and she
Speaker 2: was like, I don't want to do it out of order.
Speaker 2: I'd like to do it. There was just so much
Speaker 2: that I was like, uh huh, yeah.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: And she was like achievable goals, Like I'll take something
Speaker 2: off my to do list just because I know I'm
Speaker 2: not going to do it that day.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that way, it's not it's not actually on the list.
Speaker 2: I do need to do it still, but I don't
Speaker 2: have to look at it.
Speaker 1: There was some scene where she was giving some impassioned speech,
Speaker 1: like talking about her kids or something, and then she
Speaker 1: puts a cushion on the ground and just gets on
Speaker 1: her knees. She can give you a low job. If
Speaker 1: that really made me a laugh, Yeah, I am a
Speaker 1: I am a turty.
Speaker 2: Oh I am a turt I'm a dirty old PERV
Speaker 2: every now and again. Oh my gosh, great question, Sienna.
Speaker 2: You wrote his mom walked in on him having group
Speaker 2: sex and then she disowned him.
Speaker 1: Okay. I also right, they really lost me with this.
Speaker 2: Meeting number three. I really was like, wait, they.
Speaker 1: Were both being insane.
Speaker 2: She was being insane.
Speaker 1: I literally wrote down she was being insane. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: like you said to be fair to him, she was
Speaker 1: being insane in that scene when she goes I found you.
Speaker 2: I found you on the when she goes let me
Speaker 2: talk to your mother, let me explain to her. And
Speaker 2: I was like, girl, you're being in that.
Speaker 1: That's not no, Yeah, I found that whole. It was
Speaker 1: a weird thing where they've been talking about sex work
Speaker 1: and stuff the entire time, like being very gentle and
Speaker 1: informative about it to viewers who we know much. But
Speaker 1: then like the fact that this character kind of I
Speaker 1: know that it's supposed to be a big breach of
Speaker 1: trust and they chose the right thing, but I'm not
Speaker 1: even sure they gave the right amount of weight to it.
Speaker 1: The fact that she like completely disregarded his boundaries, which
Speaker 1: are incredibly important in sex work. Something that is like
Speaker 1: can be so safe space, Like to say that you
Speaker 1: found his thing is like he should actually never come
Speaker 1: back ever again. Yeah, because that's just so not okay.
Speaker 2: She's like, what, what's the big jail.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I get why they chose that. I just
Speaker 1: don't know if they.
Speaker 2: I was so problematic about that. I was like, why
Speaker 2: would you put your own name on your company's house? Listen,
Speaker 2: that is your dumb idiot.
Speaker 1: But it's just like that puts him in said, it's
Speaker 1: so creepy. It juststurbed me. That scene really disturbed me.
Speaker 2: It was it was odd.
Speaker 1: It was odd.
Speaker 2: I get that there had to be some sort of
Speaker 2: like conflict, yeah, exactly, Like, wow.
Speaker 1: They chose really like a really tough one.
Speaker 2: It was pretty extreme. Yeah, because what.
Speaker 1: Would be the thing that makes him leave when he's
Speaker 1: like delivering a fantasy and patient if she and he's
Speaker 1: getting paid to be there and be emotionally laboris but uh,
Speaker 1: it would be her literally like breaking the contract basically,
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But yeah, that scene didn't didn't quite work for me.
Speaker 1: That was it's like you said, it was like they
Speaker 1: built this perfectly respectful space and they had to figure
Speaker 1: out how to break it, and it just had to
Speaker 1: make both of them be ins.
Speaker 2: Insane, just a little insane. Both went crazy and like
Speaker 2: they both are really goods, so they did their best
Speaker 2: with it. But exactly.
Speaker 1: That's the thing about these British actors sometimes are uh
Speaker 1: or I guess he's careful. These excellent actors, I should say,
Speaker 1: I just associate other places with being better actors. But true, yeah,
Speaker 1: they have to sell it no matter what, even if
Speaker 1: the script didn't give them on the stuff they needed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: are you a dirty old pervert? I bet you're not.
Speaker 1: We talk about that more in a few minutes. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back. Yeah, Leanna, you have said I am
Speaker 1: not appropriate.
Speaker 2: I just was experiencing my own things in that last
Speaker 2: scene where you noted more boning against walls, more of this.
Speaker 2: This should have been the movie. I don't completely agree.
Speaker 2: I was happy it happened. I don't think it.
Speaker 1: Should have been the whole for talking about it. I
Speaker 1: don't agree either, But at.
Speaker 2: The time I was like whoa, yeah, and for the listener,
Speaker 2: she's swinging her arms as if she's about to last
Speaker 2: so something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've become very western.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, you of course you've been immersed.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it was bringing up I just when people
Speaker 2: are freely boning, I'm a little bit like, could stop.
Speaker 2: That's not appropriate, which is my own thing. That's on me.
Speaker 1: Well, the rhythm of the movie was weird. I think
Speaker 1: we both can kind of observed and it was maybe
Speaker 1: by design, but the rhythm was like very uncomfortable, very uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: and then extremely comfortable after being comfortable, completely insane.
Speaker 2: So it I guess they had to like bond over
Speaker 2: being insane and that brought them closer.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was happy for her, though, Damn, I mean, what
Speaker 2: a scene, what a what a montage?
Speaker 1: Yes, we'll have to talk about it in trage is
Speaker 1: my greatest trage for this movie is and this is
Speaker 1: the place. I think they probably did a bunch of
Speaker 1: different versions of the orgasm moment and then edit it.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, because I'm just f was edited.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're like, she should do it herself, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, love, Yeah, I did love that they didn't
Speaker 1: give it enough of a moment for me, And then
Speaker 1: I wish at the end they just like been like
Speaker 1: did you did you? She's like I did, and then
Speaker 1: they're like whoa and dance around.
Speaker 2: That's where I'm like, here's the other thing that you
Speaker 2: have to remember is that she's British and he's Irish.
Speaker 2: They're never gonna exhibit that much emotion.
Speaker 1: I just it was the whole point and they barely
Speaker 1: do it. I was waiting for it to be so fun.
Speaker 2: Anyway, So yes, and now having lived in Britain for
Speaker 2: two years, I was like, yeah, like, there's absolutely no
Speaker 2: way that's about how that would go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so funny. I thought it would be a
Speaker 1: perfect way to kind of close is like, to make
Speaker 1: the point they were trying to make about like, I
Speaker 1: know it's a lot, but you can relax if you want,
Speaker 1: if you feel comfortable and it's nice, it can be fun.
Speaker 1: But the city's like was that and she's like.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: It was such a bummer to me, it was such
Speaker 1: a wow.
Speaker 2: I just did not feel that way. How interesting.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm glad to have discussed it because I do
Speaker 1: feel I still wis they should I still think they
Speaker 1: should have high fived. But that's the American in me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were watching this through an American lens. You
Speaker 2: were trying to Americanize this.
Speaker 1: And Americans love high fives. Yeah. Your final note is
Speaker 1: Academy Award for Emma Thompson. Thank you. I agree.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's discuss. Let's discuss the full frontal nudity scene,
Speaker 2: because it seems like you had negative opinions.
Speaker 1: I kind of I was more i'd say disappointed. I
Speaker 1: wasn't mad. I was disappointed, But I don't even want
Speaker 1: to make this wrong of a stance before hearing your
Speaker 1: take on it, because it wasn't It was just like.
Speaker 2: What I want to hear more like when you say,
Speaker 2: like the movie felt like it was proud of itself
Speaker 2: for doing that, Like what gives you that?
Speaker 1: Where?
Speaker 4: Where?
Speaker 1: Where do you get that impression from the fact that they.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: When I step back and really think about it as art,
Speaker 1: because sometimes it does take me a while to process
Speaker 1: movies like this, Like again, it was a choice, like
Speaker 1: even thinking about it now, the idea that she like
Speaker 1: that they didn't, that the movie didn't show stuff at
Speaker 1: first and did it the end could be seen as
Speaker 1: she has finally she finally feels comfortable even looking at herself.
Speaker 1: Hmmmm hmmm, which makes sense. But the way I was
Speaker 1: reading it while watching was that they were like, we
Speaker 1: don't want to scare people off with too much raw
Speaker 1: experience of like a woman's body, so we're going to
Speaker 1: wait till the end and people are going to be wowed.
Speaker 1: That's how I was thinking about it, I think. But now,
Speaker 1: even just like rolling it around in my mind after
Speaker 1: we've discussed this and thinking of it as as if
Speaker 1: none of this is I was really kind of maybe
Speaker 1: because with the music and everything, it did feel like
Speaker 1: sort of a movie that was created really with the
Speaker 1: viewers in mind, more than more than just like art
Speaker 1: for art's sake. It felt like it was Maybe my
Speaker 1: assumption was that it was pandering in some way to something,
Speaker 1: and maybe that's why I'm being so hard on it.
Speaker 1: But thinking about it now is more of like just
Speaker 1: literally if I'm taking it as art from her perspective,
Speaker 1: that's about her. It makes sense that it was bright
Speaker 1: and uncomfortable because she was uncomfortable, and then they didn't
Speaker 1: show her body because she's like, I don't like my body,
Speaker 1: I don't feel comfortable, I don't feel free, and then
Speaker 1: at the end she's finally free. So I've maybe just
Speaker 1: actively changed my tune. It does make more sense, but
Speaker 1: that's okay. Well, that gives a little bit more clarity
Speaker 1: for why I was feeling frustrated. It felt like it
Speaker 1: was like, we're gonna show you at the end. For
Speaker 1: a second, because you guys can't handle seeing a woman's
Speaker 1: body for that long m you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: unless it's like men getting exploitative joy out of it.
Speaker 2: It felt like disappointingly and not disappointing on the film's part,
Speaker 2: but on society's part, uh, groundbreaking because at the very
Speaker 2: end of like she orgasms for the first time, they
Speaker 2: say they're goodbye, he leaves, and then she takes off
Speaker 2: her robe and just looks at her naked body in
Speaker 2: the mirror, and it's like, it's a body. It's just
Speaker 2: a human body. Yeah, it's a human body, but it
Speaker 2: doesn't fit like the exact mold of the bodies that
Speaker 2: we are always seeing on screen, especially for women.
Speaker 1: We see it on screen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't see that. You don't see like a
Speaker 2: body over thirty five. Yeah, you don't see a body
Speaker 2: that's like loose in any way or has been through childbirth.
Speaker 2: Like you just are not seeing those things. And so
Speaker 2: I thought it was like, ugh, I think this word
Speaker 2: is so gross around like the female form. But it
Speaker 2: was brave in that way because it was you're just
Speaker 2: not you don't see that ever. Yeah, it's ever.
Speaker 1: It's really interesting you're saying that and hearing my perspective
Speaker 1: because even though I'm like trying to my anger is
Speaker 1: coming from the same place of like that we don't
Speaker 1: see this very often. I'm like, oh, you think you're brave,
Speaker 1: But the reason i even feel like it's brave is
Speaker 1: because I'm not used to seeing it, you know what
Speaker 1: i mean, So like I'm getting got by the same
Speaker 1: societal like she's just a person looking at her body.
Speaker 1: But it's like, oh, you're doing the brave thing.
Speaker 2: Now, you know.
Speaker 1: It's like it literally just.
Speaker 2: Is the wok left over here?
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, it is I see weird that you don't like,
Speaker 1: especially in American film as well. I feel like they're really.
Speaker 2: True any any sort of like what would be perceived
Speaker 2: as imperfection bodies.
Speaker 1: You know, you're used to just seeing at the gym.
Speaker 2: You know they aren't.
Speaker 1: They're everywhere. They're like human bodies, but yeah, never on
Speaker 1: that you never see them on screen, like, and they're
Speaker 1: so surprising to me that I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: felt all these things around it of like are you
Speaker 1: doing this to be to be like because you because
Speaker 1: because you're trying to make a point, or like why
Speaker 1: is this you know that's so interesting too, because I
Speaker 1: feel like it's it's intended to be her.
Speaker 2: She's not like seeing herself. And I watched some interviews
Speaker 2: with Emma Thompson about this movie after it, and she
Speaker 2: talks about that scene and she's like, it's not like
Speaker 2: the character is seeing herself for the first time and
Speaker 2: being like, God, I'm gorgeous. I'm just like, God, I'm
Speaker 2: so gorgeous. She's just like finally kind of accepting her
Speaker 2: body and like at peace with it. And so there's
Speaker 2: a lot of like neutrality in that scene. But it's
Speaker 2: interesting that it causes us to feel so many things.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's such a good point. Anyway, Wow, I'm
Speaker 1: really glad to discussed this film. Oh my gosh, this
Speaker 1: was like a book club. Well the auto. Let's go
Speaker 1: to our badges and trages. Yes, please, My trauges are
Speaker 1: all going to still be about high fiving, which I
Speaker 1: do stand.
Speaker 2: By American trages. Welcome to Badges and Trages. Our segment
Speaker 2: where we award badges for body neutrality. Perhaps we're are
Speaker 2: we at with the body neutrality movement? Are we are?
Speaker 1: We?
Speaker 2: Is that the right one? Okay?
Speaker 1: I think it's the right one.
Speaker 2: I don't the one that we're doing now. But yeah,
Speaker 2: true and trages.
Speaker 1: For trying to adhere to purity culture.
Speaker 2: Oh, I have a badge for ninety seven minutes.
Speaker 1: Badge for that too. Yes, the length of film should
Speaker 1: be I completely agree, like a long episode of television. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Badge for Emma Thompson. I also have a badge for
Speaker 1: Emma Thompson. Yes, she really did a wonderful job. I
Speaker 1: really did enjoy her performance. Oh my gosh, she's so
Speaker 1: human and funny and delightful to watch. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I have a badge for Loel preparing cheek when they
Speaker 2: first meet and he's like, can I kiss you on
Speaker 2: the cheek, And she's like, oh, yes, that would be nice,
Speaker 2: and then she kind of prepares her cheek to receive
Speaker 2: a kiss.
Speaker 1: I loved that. I have a badge for how unenthused
Speaker 1: she is about her kids or talking about them just
Speaker 1: honestly like people. Yeah, she's like, they're the best thing ever.
Speaker 1: She's like, he turned out pretty well, but I don't
Speaker 1: really like hanging out with him.
Speaker 2: He's so land my Oh. My last badge is during
Speaker 2: their their their boning montage at the end when they're
Speaker 2: trying to do kind of like doggy style with like
Speaker 2: a leg up on the bed or something and just
Speaker 2: like I can't balance like this, I can't, this isn't working. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I loved that. I just love those little like real moments.
Speaker 2: This is in between like oh, they're having great sex. Cool,
Speaker 2: but then there are certain things where it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I have a cramp, like my hip pert like we
Speaker 2: gotta move around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, clunkiness and talking about it is part of it. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a badge for just like the actual issues
Speaker 1: she's talking about beyond just like she has the stuff
Speaker 1: of like being older and feeling like ah, like a
Speaker 1: feeling like I didn't get to be fulfilled in this way,
Speaker 1: but literally simply just like she hasn't had an orgasm. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like normal and like hopefully hopefully you definitely want
Speaker 1: with sex with her partner that she'd have been satisfied
Speaker 1: or whatever, but like just the fact that your bodies
Speaker 1: don't always do things that you want them to do,
Speaker 1: or like that people have different experiences and stuff, Like
Speaker 1: I really liked all of that that she or that
Speaker 1: she's had sex for a long time but never done
Speaker 1: a lot of sexual things she wants to do you know, Like,
Speaker 1: I think that's actually a way more common experience than
Speaker 1: people talk about, you know, like there's just a sort
Speaker 1: of like, I don't know, yeah, feeling that like you've
Speaker 1: done it, you've done it all. But I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot more satisfaction exploration to be had, and like
Speaker 1: maybe you're not comfortable about it with everybody, but some people,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I think that the actual
Speaker 1: crux of everything they were talking about was really important
Speaker 1: and awesome because it's so true.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: And then my final badge is it's an orgrasm. It's
Speaker 1: not a Faberge egg.
Speaker 2: That reminded me of I was rewatching White Lotus season
Speaker 2: two on the plane back from my cousin's wedding in
Speaker 2: the States. Uh huh, and the grandfather played by f
Speaker 2: Marie Abraham goes, it's a penis. It's not a sunset.
Speaker 2: That's just a fun structure, so funny. It's an orgasm,
Speaker 2: not a Faberge egg. Tradges, trages. Sorry, my trages are
Speaker 2: going to be some of the lame things I said.
Speaker 2: For example, trage number one, brightest movie of all time.
Speaker 1: I hated that. I did hate it, but I get
Speaker 1: it effectively made me feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: I think that's fair. What time of day did you
Speaker 2: watch it?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Evening and I watched it during the day, like ten ams.
Speaker 2: Sense maybe it just felt they could fit right.
Speaker 1: Instancy of brightness was it felt like it felt like
Speaker 1: severance or something. It's like, what's going on? Oh?
Speaker 2: Interesting? Yes, I have a trage for not the cut
Speaker 2: to batter Sea power Station at their first meeting. At
Speaker 2: the end of it, they kiss and then it kind
Speaker 2: of pans out the window or it cuts straight to
Speaker 2: an exterior shot of batter Sea Power Station in London,
Speaker 2: and I was like, what, huh so strange? Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Leanna, oh Lena, Yes, oh Leanna, I have a trage.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's hear it, Sianna.
Speaker 1: I have a trage for. Oh. Their fight where she
Speaker 1: goes insane is actually like really not okay? Yeah, the
Speaker 1: boundary breaks. I was like, no, don't no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: God when she called him Connor, I guess yes, it's
Speaker 1: like that is not appropriate, Emma no.
Speaker 2: And it didn't seem like she was getting it. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think she kind of got it by the end,
Speaker 2: but oh, it's crazy. It was so my next trage,
Speaker 2: I guess, okay, I also had a trage for that.
Speaker 2: I had a trage as well for I think I
Speaker 2: struggled with his character because he just didn't feel like
Speaker 2: a real He felt like an angel he was.
Speaker 1: Which I get. When she was like, you're like a
Speaker 1: sex saint, I was like, yeah, he is what he's like.
Speaker 2: In an interview she was like, he plays a sex worker,
Speaker 2: but he's really more of like a sex car yeah,
Speaker 2: which I thought was kind of a nice like way
Speaker 2: to describe that the work, but.
Speaker 1: I just, yeah, I was like, who is this?
Speaker 2: And I get also, maybe that's just because that's what
Speaker 2: you're supposed to feel, because he's like selling you something.
Speaker 2: He's playing Leo Grand He's not actually like being a
Speaker 2: three dimensional He's not supposed to be that. That's not
Speaker 2: his job in that setting. But then in meeting three,
Speaker 2: when he did become real and was doing his backstory,
Speaker 2: I was like, huh, I.
Speaker 1: Had an orgy and my mother kicked me out.
Speaker 2: She said I was she'd said that's the day I die.
Speaker 1: I do think I think that's a good trag. There's
Speaker 1: something like the fact that this movie's trying to respect
Speaker 1: that his line of work requires him to be some
Speaker 1: level of anonymous. Didn't make it confusing, as they tried
Speaker 1: to also make him like a full person while the
Speaker 1: movie just took place in one room, like they're not
Speaker 1: supposed to tell all about him.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm sorry. I do have to give
Speaker 2: another a late badge, a belated badge, uh, for the
Speaker 2: fact that the movie took place all in one room.
Speaker 2: I really like movies where it's like there's two people
Speaker 2: in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I thought that was really interesting and fun. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was like a bottle episode, and I hate bottle episodes
Speaker 2: on television. I'm normally like to me, no, I want
Speaker 2: to see the plot progress, please, But if the whole
Speaker 2: thing is bottle, great.
Speaker 1: I have a trudge for I really wish the orgasm
Speaker 1: had been more fun.
Speaker 2: Uh, not the thing.
Speaker 1: Itself, just afterwards. I just because they did a little
Speaker 1: dance scene earlier. I wish they'd been like, yeah, chutchy,
Speaker 1: chutch we did we did. We didn't we did it
Speaker 1: to make it like to have some levity around it,
Speaker 1: when I felt like a big point of the movie
Speaker 1: was to find levity, and I don't expect them to
Speaker 1: like force that but I felt like that would be
Speaker 1: a really non forced moment to just have a like
Speaker 1: cute mmm you know thing. Anyway, that was.
Speaker 2: That's a see my personal taste. Oh, I love that.
Speaker 2: That's so funny.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like me saying like they should have
Speaker 1: eaten a hot dog right after. Like, I understand this
Speaker 1: is a very mean thing. I understand this is very
Speaker 1: memo that I.
Speaker 2: Like you high fiving after sex sometimes. Yeah, okay, that's cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that team teamwork makes the dream work,
Speaker 1: you know. I know it's very mean to think that
Speaker 1: a high five would be the perfect culmination of a
Speaker 1: would I know that.
Speaker 2: This sixty three year old British woman, this English woman,
Speaker 2: has an orgasm for the first time in her life,
Speaker 2: and naturally the thing she does is go for a
Speaker 2: high five on top.
Speaker 1: I know you're there. I think I'm right.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you keep thinking that you are wrong,
Speaker 2: but feel free to keep thinking that it can't be.
Speaker 1: It would have been insane.
Speaker 2: My final trage is a trade for her name is
Speaker 2: Missus Robinson. That was crazy, that made me, That annoyed
Speaker 2: me so much, crazy reveal and I know they like
Speaker 2: pointed out they try to like, oh, missus Robinson cute,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, shut up. Also, don't reference
Speaker 2: the graduate during this film where and Bankruft is what
Speaker 2: like thirty nine in that movie, Oh my gosh, yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, this ancient woman is old woman.
Speaker 1: She literally just like is from the era where they
Speaker 1: didn't wear sunscreen. She's like twenty nine. Yeah. My final
Speaker 1: trudge was just for the moment where she talks to
Speaker 1: a waiter about how this guy's tongue is is actually
Speaker 1: not appropriate behavior as a client. You have to leave
Speaker 1: the restaurant now, ye have to. You know, it's it's
Speaker 1: a movie.
Speaker 2: It is what it is. That's Amory.
Speaker 1: That's Samory.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lean because we have more, Yes, yeah, we have more.
Speaker 2: There's more podcast. Yes, this is how to pretend you've
Speaker 2: seen this film.
Speaker 1: This is for you.
Speaker 2: Are in a Hilton, a hotel restaurant, and you're you're
Speaker 2: just waiting and trying to think through some stuff, and
Speaker 2: every server in the restaurant keeps coming up to you
Speaker 2: saying do you need anything? Can I get you anything?
Speaker 2: Can I get you anything? I'm okay, sorry, think I'm okay,
Speaker 2: And then seconds later, can I get you anything?
Speaker 1: No no, no, no no, I'm okay. I'm okay. Thank
Speaker 1: you very much.
Speaker 2: Can I get you anything? No? No, no, no no,
Speaker 2: I'm okay.
Speaker 1: I'm okay, okay.
Speaker 2: Can I get you anything?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: You know, while I'm here, this actually is this is
Speaker 2: so funny. This reminds me of a movie I saw.
Speaker 2: It's called good Luck to You, Leo Grand. Let me
Speaker 2: tell you thought, you know, I'm going to get you
Speaker 2: something and also I'm going to tell you all about
Speaker 2: this movie right now.
Speaker 1: And in order to stop, uh, the entire staff of
Speaker 1: this of this hotel from telling you about the film, uh, instead,
Speaker 1: we're going to give you a few things that you
Speaker 1: can say to pretend you've seen the movie good Luck
Speaker 1: to You Leo Grand.
Speaker 2: Yes, wait, staff, I've seen good Luck to You Leo Grand.
Speaker 2: And in order to send you away, I'm gonna say
Speaker 2: some of my favorite lines from their incredibly awkward first encounter.
Speaker 2: To make you feel so uncomfortable that you have to
Speaker 2: leave you Enjoy music by people.
Speaker 1: That is so real.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that on my next first day. Enjoy
Speaker 2: music by people.
Speaker 1: Yes, entire weight staff, I have seen the film good
Speaker 1: Luck to You Leo Grand. Here's some fun facts. The
Speaker 1: film was shot within nineteen days, with an average of
Speaker 1: twelve pages per day. Oh my gosh, whoa. It really
Speaker 1: felt like it would be. It was probably a really
Speaker 1: cheap movie to make, except for paying Emma Thompson. Emma,
Speaker 1: but you literally just rent a hotel room and pay
Speaker 1: Emma Thompson.
Speaker 2: Bing bang boom itemized budget done. Yes, Waite staff, I
Speaker 2: have seen good luck to you, Leo Grand and then
Speaker 2: the white staff says to me, let's move to you,
Speaker 2: and I say, okay, Oh god. She's like, tell me
Speaker 2: about yourself. He's like, tell me about you and she's like,
Speaker 2: oh oh no, oh god, oh god, that's so how
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be.
Speaker 1: I loved that her whole vibe.
Speaker 2: Oh god, just panic, no, no, sheer, bloody panic.
Speaker 1: I thought the blowjob thing was all actually really lovely
Speaker 1: and beautiful and yeah, she's like, so like I have
Speaker 1: to do this. He's like, you don't have to. She's like,
Speaker 1: I want to.
Speaker 2: I want to. I have to. I have to because
Speaker 2: I want to, and if I don't a coward.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Really nice. It was actually really complex. That was like
Speaker 1: you can try it if you want to, and if
Speaker 1: you don't like it like you don't have to do
Speaker 1: it again, and it's just like there's you have to
Speaker 1: like it when you try it much tied up in
Speaker 1: the fact that it's like you're supposed to like it,
Speaker 1: and there's it's like whatever, And I just I thought
Speaker 1: that was like, I don't know this movie really yeah,
Speaker 1: succeeded in that way.
Speaker 2: Yes, wait, staff, stop coming up to me. Oh you've
Speaker 2: come up so much. I have to I've spilled my
Speaker 2: coffee on my jacket and I have to go change
Speaker 2: and they say, don't change too much.
Speaker 1: Can I say? Oh god, aha, I love that. I
Speaker 1: loved that.
Speaker 2: Oh god, oh god, oh my yeah, oh okay, uh yes,
Speaker 2: wait stuff, I have seen the film.
Speaker 1: I have seen the film.
Speaker 2: Good luck Leo.
Speaker 1: Emma Thompson said that she trimmed her pubic hair in
Speaker 1: preparation for the full frontal nudity scene. She says, I
Speaker 1: greatly regret the demise of the full Bush. She explained,
Speaker 1: I did once do the full thing years and years ago,
Speaker 1: but really I regret it because they've never quite grown
Speaker 1: back to my liking. Whoa, but that's also getting old, okay, Yes,
Speaker 1: Emma Thompson on Bush.
Speaker 2: Full Bush Ambassador Emma Thompson. Well, it must be an
Speaker 2: actor during the two thousands. Oh god, Oh, I can't
Speaker 2: imagine stripped to hell. I mean, if that's what people's
Speaker 2: eyebrows look like today, imagine the bush anyway, fucked.
Speaker 1: The fact that this movie gave me hearing about Emma
Speaker 1: Thompson talking about bush is really a real win.
Speaker 2: In Portante the day passed a road called Holy Bush Lane.
Speaker 1: If you want to hear more about this, go check
Speaker 1: out the trivia because there's actually a lot and it's
Speaker 1: pretty lovely.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, Sienna, let's do should you watch this or
Speaker 2: our segment where we tell the listener if we think
Speaker 2: you should watch this movie or if you should do
Speaker 2: something else with your bush ooh, Leanna, you go first.
Speaker 2: I think this is a worthwhile watch. I think there
Speaker 2: are parts of it that don't completely land, and I
Speaker 2: think meeting number three everybody's being insane during but Emma
Speaker 2: Thompson is just a treat. I think the acting and
Speaker 2: it is really good. I think there's a lot of
Speaker 2: like very beautiful vulnerability and conversations that are not that
Speaker 2: are only just starting to be had. And I think
Speaker 2: this is one of the things that is kickstarting that
Speaker 2: and I really do believe that this movie walked so
Speaker 2: that baby girl could run. Yes, that's what I would say.
Speaker 2: How about you, Siena, I would say.
Speaker 1: You could watch this movie if you are looking for
Speaker 1: all the things that we discussed, which I think is great.
Speaker 1: There were definitely moments I felt let down because I was,
Speaker 1: for some reason expecting something else. So what you could
Speaker 1: do is watch this movie and know that it's its thing,
Speaker 1: which is actually quite lovely and I and I thought
Speaker 1: was pretty special. So I would recommend that. But then also,
Speaker 1: in addition, if you're craving some other thing, watch Sex
Speaker 1: in the City right after, and you'll have the whole
Speaker 1: You'll have the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want you to write a fan fic of
Speaker 2: Nancy from good Luck to Leo Grand going to brunch
Speaker 2: with the girlies I tried to get right after he rendezvous.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Oh, Sianna, what would you rate the film
Speaker 2: good Luck to You Leo Grand.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it. Uh, I'll give good Luck to
Speaker 1: you Rio Grand, Rio Grand, Leo Grand.
Speaker 2: It's happened, She's been Western nine.
Speaker 1: I will give it three refrigerated Mars bars out of five.
Speaker 1: The whole time. I was just so I was really
Speaker 1: the brightness got me. Some of the conversations that we
Speaker 1: didn't even talk about. I was like, I don't even
Speaker 1: need to hear that right now, but I get that
Speaker 1: you have to address everything. I felt like they had
Speaker 1: to address so much. But I loved the stuff about
Speaker 1: talking about like sex stress basically, but that was strangely
Speaker 1: to me, not actually the majority of the movie. So
Speaker 1: for me, it's three out of five. But I'm really
Speaker 1: glad we talked about it because I am like taking
Speaker 1: more away now thinking about it. And I love play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love her. She did a great job in this role. Leanna,
Speaker 1: what about yourself?
Speaker 2: I will give good luck to you, Leo grand four
Speaker 2: full bushes out of five. There was so much in
Speaker 2: it that I really really resonated with, and I also
Speaker 2: understand that not everybody will, and it's it's conversations I'm
Speaker 2: glad are happening. I thought the full frontal nudity at
Speaker 2: the end was like important and some of it just
Speaker 2: did not work, but a lot of it really did.
Speaker 2: A lot of it really did, and I'm glad that
Speaker 2: it exists.
Speaker 4: Agreed, agreed, Wow, And that's it. That's our review of
Speaker 4: the Rio grand the Rio Grande. Did you see the
Speaker 4: Rio Grande on tour Big River?
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I probably saw the Colorado River.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Did you see a river?
Speaker 1: Oh? Oh my god, I saw rivers in Austin.
Speaker 2: Hmmm, don't know. Unfamiliar with those. You're just one called
Speaker 2: like the River of America, which is in Sacramento, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, why don't get the American I bet that
Speaker 2: was man made as well. I don't like that at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's been our review of Good luck to you,
Speaker 2: Leo grand Thank you for listening. We are so back.
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