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So Mike White, with a 18 00:01:09,506 --> 00:01:14,666 Speaker 1: four hundred and five yard performance, the second quarterback since 19 00:01:14,826 --> 00:01:19,746 Speaker 1: nine to throw for four hundred or more yards in 20 00:01:19,866 --> 00:01:22,746 Speaker 1: his first career start, and the Jets are gonna win 21 00:01:23,266 --> 00:01:26,466 Speaker 1: as improbable a game as I think we've ever called. 22 00:01:30,826 --> 00:01:34,506 Speaker 1: That was backup quarterback Mike White of the New York 23 00:01:34,586 --> 00:01:38,946 Speaker 1: Jets two weekends ago, with the game winner over the 24 00:01:38,946 --> 00:01:42,866 Speaker 1: then a f C leading Cincinnati Bengals. He even caught 25 00:01:42,906 --> 00:01:46,506 Speaker 1: the two point conversion to go up three. It was 26 00:01:46,586 --> 00:01:51,906 Speaker 1: truly a backup quarterback performance to remember Mike. So I'm 27 00:01:51,946 --> 00:01:54,186 Speaker 1: a d d Ki kabwala as always here with my 28 00:01:54,186 --> 00:01:56,906 Speaker 1: buddy Mike, yam and Mike. Come on now, look at 29 00:01:56,946 --> 00:01:58,546 Speaker 1: my phone was blowing up. You know, I grew up 30 00:01:58,546 --> 00:02:00,466 Speaker 1: in the Northeast. I have plenty of family members that 31 00:02:00,506 --> 00:02:02,426 Speaker 1: are Jets fans that are all of a sudden going 32 00:02:02,466 --> 00:02:05,466 Speaker 1: to Mike White. Is he our guy? A performance that 33 00:02:05,506 --> 00:02:08,306 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone is going to forget and add 34 00:02:08,466 --> 00:02:10,746 Speaker 1: one particular person. I don't know if you saw this story, 35 00:02:11,186 --> 00:02:15,426 Speaker 1: someone one one hundred and twenty four thousand dollars bending 36 00:02:15,506 --> 00:02:18,146 Speaker 1: one thousand on Mike White to lead the league in 37 00:02:18,266 --> 00:02:22,626 Speaker 1: passing in week number eight. The odds to one just insane? 38 00:02:23,066 --> 00:02:25,466 Speaker 1: Was it his dad? Uh? You know what, I actually 39 00:02:25,506 --> 00:02:28,346 Speaker 1: don't know if it was his dad, but certainly wouldn't 40 00:02:28,346 --> 00:02:31,066 Speaker 1: surprise me the confidence that a family member would have 41 00:02:31,386 --> 00:02:33,106 Speaker 1: in Mike White to lead the charge. It really was 42 00:02:33,186 --> 00:02:37,186 Speaker 1: a spectacular performance and Mike. That takes us to this 43 00:02:37,306 --> 00:02:41,866 Speaker 1: week's episode of NFL Explained, where we're talking about what 44 00:02:42,066 --> 00:02:47,626 Speaker 1: else but backup quarterbacks. Week eight one was absolutely the 45 00:02:47,706 --> 00:02:50,866 Speaker 1: week of the backup quarterback. Mike White of the Jets, 46 00:02:51,146 --> 00:02:54,306 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush of the Cowboys, and Gino Smith of the 47 00:02:54,346 --> 00:02:59,026 Speaker 1: Seahawks all got the starts and lead their teams to victories. 48 00:02:59,306 --> 00:03:01,906 Speaker 1: And Trevor Simeon and p J. Walker, they came in 49 00:03:01,946 --> 00:03:04,706 Speaker 1: addy when Jamis Winston and Sam Donald left their games 50 00:03:04,706 --> 00:03:08,026 Speaker 1: with injuries, and they out wins too. Unfortunately, this past weekend, 51 00:03:08,066 --> 00:03:11,746 Speaker 1: Week nine not exactly fortuitous for backup quarterbacks, but it 52 00:03:11,826 --> 00:03:14,506 Speaker 1: was still intriguing. Simeon he lost a close one to 53 00:03:14,546 --> 00:03:16,626 Speaker 1: the Falcons. Jordan's love, my god, we've been waiting on 54 00:03:16,666 --> 00:03:19,186 Speaker 1: this one. He just couldn't get it done against the Chiefs, 55 00:03:19,186 --> 00:03:22,066 Speaker 1: filling in for Aaron Rodgers. But Jakobe Berset he got 56 00:03:22,066 --> 00:03:25,306 Speaker 1: the w for the Dolphins against the Texans. It wasn't 57 00:03:25,346 --> 00:03:28,226 Speaker 1: necessarily a memorable performance though. Then there's my guy, Mike White. 58 00:03:28,226 --> 00:03:30,226 Speaker 1: He gets to start for the Jets again and it 59 00:03:30,266 --> 00:03:32,546 Speaker 1: was looking good. But gets injured at the end of 60 00:03:32,586 --> 00:03:35,186 Speaker 1: that first quarter and his backup, So the backup to 61 00:03:35,186 --> 00:03:38,106 Speaker 1: the backup Josh Johnson, he comes in. And it's notable 62 00:03:38,146 --> 00:03:41,386 Speaker 1: because Johnson has been under contract with Get this, thirteen 63 00:03:41,586 --> 00:03:44,546 Speaker 1: NFL teams plus stints with three teams in the UFL, 64 00:03:44,746 --> 00:03:47,946 Speaker 1: the a F and the XFL the Jets. They lost 65 00:03:47,986 --> 00:03:49,866 Speaker 1: to the Cult, But Johnson, how about this man? He 66 00:03:49,906 --> 00:03:52,106 Speaker 1: sets a career high with more than three hundred passing 67 00:03:52,186 --> 00:03:56,546 Speaker 1: yards and three touchdowns. Now the backups lone star. And 68 00:03:56,586 --> 00:03:58,306 Speaker 1: I say that because he's from Texas and he played 69 00:03:58,346 --> 00:04:00,106 Speaker 1: for the Long Horns. See what I did there? That 70 00:04:00,186 --> 00:04:02,666 Speaker 1: was the Cardinals Cult McCoy who got the surprising star 71 00:04:02,746 --> 00:04:05,306 Speaker 1: when Kyler Murray couldn't go and he actually took down 72 00:04:05,306 --> 00:04:09,666 Speaker 1: the Niner. I mean backup quarterback ridiculously important position, wouldn't 73 00:04:09,706 --> 00:04:12,186 Speaker 1: you say? So? We got us thinking add right, like, 74 00:04:12,346 --> 00:04:15,466 Speaker 1: what can we actually explain on this podcast about the 75 00:04:15,466 --> 00:04:19,426 Speaker 1: backup quarterback position, because it does feel relatively obvious. The 76 00:04:19,426 --> 00:04:22,146 Speaker 1: backup quarterback is the guy that just goes in when 77 00:04:22,146 --> 00:04:24,786 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback can't get some run. Right No no, no, 78 00:04:24,786 --> 00:04:28,586 Speaker 1: no no no, Mike. Backup quarterback might be one of 79 00:04:28,626 --> 00:04:33,186 Speaker 1: the single most difficult positions on an NFL team. He's 80 00:04:33,266 --> 00:04:36,066 Speaker 1: not just the most popular guy in town when the 81 00:04:36,106 --> 00:04:39,266 Speaker 1: starting quarterback is not playing well. Although the backup quarterback 82 00:04:39,506 --> 00:04:41,786 Speaker 1: is often the most popular guy in town when the 83 00:04:41,786 --> 00:04:44,666 Speaker 1: starting quarterback is not playing well. Ignorance is bliss. I 84 00:04:44,706 --> 00:04:46,826 Speaker 1: think it's a good way of saying it. You don't know. 85 00:04:46,866 --> 00:04:49,506 Speaker 1: What you don't know is always what's really popular on 86 00:04:49,546 --> 00:04:51,946 Speaker 1: talk radio. And it doesn't matter where you live or 87 00:04:51,986 --> 00:04:55,586 Speaker 1: what city some of the fan bases are. Everyone loves 88 00:04:55,626 --> 00:04:57,866 Speaker 1: the backup until sometimes the backup has to play. But 89 00:04:57,906 --> 00:05:00,666 Speaker 1: add not always the case, because you're right, this thing 90 00:05:00,746 --> 00:05:03,826 Speaker 1: is nuanced here. It's the obvious portion of it, which 91 00:05:03,906 --> 00:05:06,786 Speaker 1: is what I just stated before. Up quarterback you go 92 00:05:06,866 --> 00:05:10,546 Speaker 1: in when the starting quarterback can't. But take me through 93 00:05:10,546 --> 00:05:12,546 Speaker 1: this and some of the conversations you've had with some 94 00:05:12,626 --> 00:05:16,906 Speaker 1: other backup quarterbacks and why it is such a difficult job. Well, 95 00:05:16,986 --> 00:05:19,906 Speaker 1: I'm going to start with the story, and I feel 96 00:05:19,986 --> 00:05:23,186 Speaker 1: terrible for our listeners that I'm constantly pulling Steelers stories, 97 00:05:23,226 --> 00:05:24,546 Speaker 1: But the truth of the matter is is that the 98 00:05:24,546 --> 00:05:27,786 Speaker 1: Steelers organization has been one of the most successful organizations 99 00:05:27,786 --> 00:05:30,586 Speaker 1: in the NFL over the course of the last few decades. 100 00:05:30,626 --> 00:05:32,626 Speaker 1: And I have spent the last ten years of my 101 00:05:32,706 --> 00:05:35,946 Speaker 1: life living in Pittsburgh, and so there's a lot of 102 00:05:35,946 --> 00:05:39,106 Speaker 1: familiarity there. Let's go back to two thousand fifteen. Mike, 103 00:05:39,186 --> 00:05:42,066 Speaker 1: I'm covering a game in Pittsburgh. Ben Roethlisberger has been 104 00:05:42,106 --> 00:05:46,586 Speaker 1: hurt all week, and so his backup, Landry Jones, was 105 00:05:46,786 --> 00:05:50,706 Speaker 1: prepared to be the starter against the Cleveland Browns. Landry 106 00:05:50,746 --> 00:05:53,546 Speaker 1: Jones goes in to start against the Cleveland Browns and 107 00:05:53,586 --> 00:05:55,186 Speaker 1: a few plays in, I don't even know if it 108 00:05:55,226 --> 00:05:59,266 Speaker 1: was five plays, Mike, he hurts himself. He comes out, 109 00:06:00,066 --> 00:06:03,706 Speaker 1: and guess who goes in? Ben Roethlisberger, who was the 110 00:06:03,746 --> 00:06:07,426 Speaker 1: backup that day for whatever reason. In Roethlisberger goes in. 111 00:06:07,586 --> 00:06:11,026 Speaker 1: He throws for three touchdowns, three d and seventies something yards. 112 00:06:11,266 --> 00:06:14,986 Speaker 1: It's a tremendous epic performance. Everyone says, Wow, Ben doesn't 113 00:06:14,986 --> 00:06:17,506 Speaker 1: need to practice, he doesn't have to do anything. And 114 00:06:17,586 --> 00:06:19,426 Speaker 1: what he does as soon as he gets out of 115 00:06:19,426 --> 00:06:23,786 Speaker 1: the stadium is called Charlie Batch. Charlie Batch, who was 116 00:06:23,826 --> 00:06:28,706 Speaker 1: the veteran quarterback who was his backup for seven years 117 00:06:28,786 --> 00:06:32,186 Speaker 1: or so in Pittsburgh. And as Charlie tells, it to me, 118 00:06:32,746 --> 00:06:35,986 Speaker 1: Ben says to him, I couldn't even text this to you. 119 00:06:36,626 --> 00:06:40,786 Speaker 1: Kudos to you. How did you possibly do this every 120 00:06:40,786 --> 00:06:45,626 Speaker 1: single week? And the reason is the backup quarterback doesn't 121 00:06:45,666 --> 00:06:49,546 Speaker 1: get reps with the first team. The backup quarterback doesn't 122 00:06:49,586 --> 00:06:52,626 Speaker 1: get reps running the plays that are in the script 123 00:06:52,706 --> 00:06:55,426 Speaker 1: or in the playbook or on the call sheet for 124 00:06:55,546 --> 00:06:59,906 Speaker 1: that particular week. The backup quarterback often has to run 125 00:07:00,026 --> 00:07:03,386 Speaker 1: scout team, which is running plays of the opposing team. 126 00:07:03,866 --> 00:07:06,706 Speaker 1: But guess what, Mike, the backup quarter back better be 127 00:07:06,786 --> 00:07:10,066 Speaker 1: prepared if his number is called at some point on Sunday, 128 00:07:10,146 --> 00:07:13,186 Speaker 1: which is what we saw with several of these players, 129 00:07:13,346 --> 00:07:16,506 Speaker 1: and so the preparation piece. Actually, I talked about this 130 00:07:16,546 --> 00:07:19,626 Speaker 1: with Bruce Gradkowski, who was a starter as a rookie 131 00:07:19,946 --> 00:07:22,386 Speaker 1: with the Raiders and then spent much of his career, 132 00:07:22,506 --> 00:07:24,466 Speaker 1: very long NFL career as well, spent a lot of 133 00:07:24,466 --> 00:07:26,786 Speaker 1: his career as a backup in a variety of different ways, 134 00:07:26,786 --> 00:07:30,466 Speaker 1: which we'll get into. Bruce said, it was so much 135 00:07:30,506 --> 00:07:34,266 Speaker 1: harder to prepare as the backup quarterback than it was 136 00:07:34,306 --> 00:07:37,186 Speaker 1: to prepare as the starter. Wow, which I think in 137 00:07:37,226 --> 00:07:39,786 Speaker 1: some ways it's like preparing for this massive test every 138 00:07:39,866 --> 00:07:41,866 Speaker 1: single week. I mean, we heard Kurt Warner tell us 139 00:07:41,866 --> 00:07:44,506 Speaker 1: a little bit on a previous episodes the work week 140 00:07:44,586 --> 00:07:47,106 Speaker 1: for him and the amount of studying that was taking place. 141 00:07:47,106 --> 00:07:49,386 Speaker 1: The advantage of Kurt had was he knew he was 142 00:07:49,426 --> 00:07:51,906 Speaker 1: going to be out there, and yet for backup quarterbacks 143 00:07:51,946 --> 00:07:54,946 Speaker 1: that's not always the case. I would imagine add the 144 00:07:55,026 --> 00:07:59,986 Speaker 1: relationship between starter and backup so significant in terms of 145 00:07:59,986 --> 00:08:04,426 Speaker 1: the preparation, but also this competitiveness. Most guys want to 146 00:08:04,426 --> 00:08:06,586 Speaker 1: be able to compete and go out there and play, 147 00:08:06,626 --> 00:08:08,906 Speaker 1: but I think that dynamics sometimes is lost when we 148 00:08:08,906 --> 00:08:12,466 Speaker 1: talk about those relationships. That situation Mike is so different 149 00:08:12,946 --> 00:08:16,466 Speaker 1: depending on the circumstances of being the backup. So let's 150 00:08:16,506 --> 00:08:19,786 Speaker 1: go back to my friend Bruce Gradkowski. When he was 151 00:08:19,826 --> 00:08:24,346 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, he competed with Andy Dalton, so he was 152 00:08:24,426 --> 00:08:28,026 Speaker 1: there to see who the starter was a few years later, 153 00:08:28,026 --> 00:08:30,506 Speaker 1: he's in Pittsburgh, and as he put it, he knew 154 00:08:30,546 --> 00:08:33,906 Speaker 1: there was no competing with Ben Roethlisberger. If Ben Roethlisberger 155 00:08:33,946 --> 00:08:37,106 Speaker 1: went out one Sunday and threw ten interceptions, it didn't matter. 156 00:08:37,346 --> 00:08:40,306 Speaker 1: Bruce was not going to be the starter. And so 157 00:08:40,346 --> 00:08:43,826 Speaker 1: the role is very different. I actually asked Bruce about 158 00:08:43,906 --> 00:08:45,826 Speaker 1: that piece of it. Though when you are the quarterback, 159 00:08:45,906 --> 00:08:49,586 Speaker 1: you are used to being the man, the person in 160 00:08:49,706 --> 00:08:53,426 Speaker 1: charge you run the show to the majority of backup 161 00:08:53,506 --> 00:08:55,826 Speaker 1: quarterbacks still sort of feel that they can do it. 162 00:08:55,946 --> 00:08:59,706 Speaker 1: Is there a competitive piece to that? And what Bruce 163 00:08:59,706 --> 00:09:02,826 Speaker 1: said is the most important thing is that you recognize 164 00:09:02,866 --> 00:09:06,226 Speaker 1: in this league your opportunity is going to cut, so 165 00:09:06,306 --> 00:09:08,626 Speaker 1: you just stay ready. But the worst thing you can 166 00:09:08,666 --> 00:09:11,386 Speaker 1: be is to be a backstabber. So you obviously have 167 00:09:11,506 --> 00:09:14,066 Speaker 1: to help your teammate in whatever way you can. And 168 00:09:15,026 --> 00:09:17,586 Speaker 1: I'll use Bruce as an example. If you're helping a 169 00:09:17,586 --> 00:09:20,666 Speaker 1: young guy like Andy Dalton, who's a rookie who's never 170 00:09:20,706 --> 00:09:22,546 Speaker 1: done it in the league, then maybe Bruce is kind 171 00:09:22,546 --> 00:09:24,586 Speaker 1: of showing him the way a little bit. Maybe he's 172 00:09:24,626 --> 00:09:27,586 Speaker 1: showing him how you organize offensive meetings, what you do, 173 00:09:27,906 --> 00:09:30,866 Speaker 1: and then stepping back and letting Andy run those meetings. 174 00:09:31,106 --> 00:09:33,506 Speaker 1: If you're the backup to Ben Roethlisberger, well then you're 175 00:09:33,546 --> 00:09:35,506 Speaker 1: just when he comes off on the sideline and he 176 00:09:35,546 --> 00:09:37,346 Speaker 1: wants to talk about, Hey, what was that covered to 177 00:09:37,466 --> 00:09:39,706 Speaker 1: shell right there? You need to be able to tell 178 00:09:39,786 --> 00:09:42,986 Speaker 1: him what you saw from the sideline and help diagnose it, 179 00:09:43,306 --> 00:09:46,506 Speaker 1: and I've had many a starting quarterback tell me that 180 00:09:46,546 --> 00:09:49,786 Speaker 1: there is nobody that can relate to exactly what is 181 00:09:49,826 --> 00:09:53,266 Speaker 1: happening on the field except for his backup quarterback. It 182 00:09:53,346 --> 00:09:55,906 Speaker 1: makes sense, and I think those relationships are so meaningful, 183 00:09:55,906 --> 00:09:58,946 Speaker 1: But to your point, they're really different. I think depending 184 00:09:59,066 --> 00:10:02,546 Speaker 1: on the team and that dynamic. I remember Jake Plumber 185 00:10:02,586 --> 00:10:04,146 Speaker 1: telling me the story when he was in Denver and 186 00:10:04,226 --> 00:10:06,706 Speaker 1: Danny Cannell was his backup order back. Not only were 187 00:10:06,746 --> 00:10:09,706 Speaker 1: they close friends, which according to Jake, is not always 188 00:10:09,746 --> 00:10:11,226 Speaker 1: how it is. You know, you can spend a lot 189 00:10:11,266 --> 00:10:14,066 Speaker 1: of time with some people inside, you know, a quarterback room, 190 00:10:14,066 --> 00:10:16,426 Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily mean it's all kumbaya once you go 191 00:10:16,466 --> 00:10:18,186 Speaker 1: and leave there. But he said it was never like 192 00:10:18,266 --> 00:10:20,706 Speaker 1: he was worried that Danny was trying to gun for 193 00:10:20,786 --> 00:10:22,986 Speaker 1: his job. Danny was doing all the things that could 194 00:10:22,986 --> 00:10:25,306 Speaker 1: help him succeed on the football field, which I think 195 00:10:25,426 --> 00:10:28,866 Speaker 1: is what you're speaking about. But then there's other dynamics 196 00:10:28,866 --> 00:10:30,746 Speaker 1: in play. And I'm actually thinking back and I think 197 00:10:30,746 --> 00:10:32,706 Speaker 1: a lot of people who are sports fans, maybe they 198 00:10:32,706 --> 00:10:35,346 Speaker 1: watch inside the n b A and they see Kenny 199 00:10:35,346 --> 00:10:37,586 Speaker 1: Smith out there. I remember Kenny telling me one time 200 00:10:37,946 --> 00:10:40,466 Speaker 1: when he was playing for the Rockets. You know, you 201 00:10:40,506 --> 00:10:42,906 Speaker 1: don't want to leave a game, and all of a 202 00:10:42,946 --> 00:10:45,146 Speaker 1: sudden your backup comes in and you sit there and 203 00:10:45,146 --> 00:10:47,346 Speaker 1: you go, well do I want him to do well? 204 00:10:47,426 --> 00:10:50,186 Speaker 1: He's like, there's like this really weird dynamic in the 205 00:10:50,186 --> 00:10:53,426 Speaker 1: back of your mind that says like, hey, am I 206 00:10:53,466 --> 00:10:55,626 Speaker 1: am I gonna go and lose my job? That next 207 00:10:55,666 --> 00:10:57,986 Speaker 1: man up sort of mentality. And I think that's what's 208 00:10:58,026 --> 00:11:01,146 Speaker 1: interesting here at play To your point, some guys embrace 209 00:11:01,266 --> 00:11:03,146 Speaker 1: that role a d D and other people when it's 210 00:11:03,146 --> 00:11:06,346 Speaker 1: a quarterback competition, for example, I would imagine that backup 211 00:11:06,386 --> 00:11:08,226 Speaker 1: is sting there, going when am I going to get 212 00:11:08,226 --> 00:11:11,226 Speaker 1: my chance, as opposed to the situation Plumber and Danny 213 00:11:11,546 --> 00:11:14,106 Speaker 1: was in, which is, hey, no, no, this is Jake's job. 214 00:11:14,506 --> 00:11:16,426 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to compete to try to, you know, 215 00:11:16,506 --> 00:11:20,186 Speaker 1: basically become that starter. So once again, interesting dynamics inside 216 00:11:20,186 --> 00:11:22,626 Speaker 1: that locker room. But that's one of those things that's 217 00:11:22,666 --> 00:11:26,466 Speaker 1: so heartwarming, right Mike, Like, think about the image of 218 00:11:26,546 --> 00:11:30,346 Speaker 1: Cooper rush winning going down in the bowels of the 219 00:11:30,426 --> 00:11:34,706 Speaker 1: stadium and Dak Prescott on basically one leg, hopping and 220 00:11:34,746 --> 00:11:37,426 Speaker 1: trying to chase him down to hug him and Dak 221 00:11:37,506 --> 00:11:40,146 Speaker 1: being so excited. Addy, I actually think it's a really 222 00:11:40,186 --> 00:11:42,826 Speaker 1: good point when it comes to Dac he's confident in 223 00:11:42,906 --> 00:11:46,186 Speaker 1: that role. Is Zack Wilson confident after what he saw 224 00:11:46,306 --> 00:11:48,346 Speaker 1: Mike White? Do? I think that's a bigger question that 225 00:11:48,386 --> 00:11:51,586 Speaker 1: will get some answers on a little bit down the road. 226 00:11:51,906 --> 00:11:54,266 Speaker 1: But one really quick thing, Mike, Let's not forget that 227 00:11:54,306 --> 00:11:59,026 Speaker 1: when it comes to quarterbacks, pedigree and especially draft pedigree 228 00:11:59,306 --> 00:12:01,186 Speaker 1: can make a difference. The team is going to have 229 00:12:01,266 --> 00:12:03,666 Speaker 1: a lot more patience for a first round pick like 230 00:12:03,746 --> 00:12:07,666 Speaker 1: Jay Cutler who doesn't necessarily have a monster rookie year 231 00:12:07,986 --> 00:12:10,506 Speaker 1: or a Peyton Manning who didn't have a monster rookie year, 232 00:12:10,906 --> 00:12:14,466 Speaker 1: than it is for perhaps a sixth round selection, unless 233 00:12:14,506 --> 00:12:17,266 Speaker 1: that six round selection is Tom Brady getting drafted number 234 00:12:17,266 --> 00:12:19,946 Speaker 1: two overall like the Jets took Zack Wilson. That might 235 00:12:20,026 --> 00:12:23,586 Speaker 1: change that conversation, But the patient's meter not always a 236 00:12:23,746 --> 00:12:27,466 Speaker 1: long leash when you consider the conversation circling Miami with 237 00:12:27,546 --> 00:12:29,946 Speaker 1: tah who clearly after the trade deadline is still going 238 00:12:29,986 --> 00:12:31,826 Speaker 1: to be a member of that Miami Dolphins team. But 239 00:12:31,946 --> 00:12:34,786 Speaker 1: just something that is looming You're right. Where you're drafted 240 00:12:34,906 --> 00:12:37,706 Speaker 1: certainly plays a factor. But coming up here, add I 241 00:12:37,706 --> 00:12:41,066 Speaker 1: think Chase Daniel actually has the best job in the NFL, 242 00:12:41,346 --> 00:12:44,626 Speaker 1: arguably in all of sports. Trust me, I'm going to 243 00:12:44,706 --> 00:12:47,306 Speaker 1: make the case. 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You and 277 00:14:26,306 --> 00:14:28,186 Speaker 1: I have been going back and forth on this mail 278 00:14:28,306 --> 00:14:32,066 Speaker 1: bag episode. I know we've gotten some questions on social media. 279 00:14:32,226 --> 00:14:35,186 Speaker 1: Do encourage some people to continue to fire off some 280 00:14:35,306 --> 00:14:38,546 Speaker 1: questions that you'd like us to answer at Mike underscore. 281 00:14:38,626 --> 00:14:41,146 Speaker 1: Yam at a kinka walla and you can always use 282 00:14:41,186 --> 00:14:44,666 Speaker 1: the hashtag NFL explained, but a d D. I said 283 00:14:44,746 --> 00:14:48,706 Speaker 1: that I thought Chase Daniel was the guy that had 284 00:14:49,226 --> 00:14:52,626 Speaker 1: the best job in all of sports. And this is 285 00:14:52,626 --> 00:14:55,106 Speaker 1: a guy that hasn't necessarily made a ton of headlines, 286 00:14:55,226 --> 00:14:57,546 Speaker 1: but as a backup quarterback, I'm going to make the 287 00:14:57,626 --> 00:14:59,506 Speaker 1: argument for you here. This is a guy that's in 288 00:14:59,546 --> 00:15:02,306 Speaker 1: his twelfth season and on his sixth team. He's actually 289 00:15:02,546 --> 00:15:04,786 Speaker 1: been able to win a Super Bowl as a backup 290 00:15:04,826 --> 00:15:06,586 Speaker 1: to Drew Brees when he is with the Saints. Then 291 00:15:06,586 --> 00:15:08,866 Speaker 1: he played for the Chiefs, the Eagles, the Bears, the Lions, 292 00:15:09,186 --> 00:15:12,226 Speaker 1: and now he's backing up Justin Herbert in Los Angeles 293 00:15:12,266 --> 00:15:14,266 Speaker 1: and adity. Going back to what we talked about earlier 294 00:15:14,266 --> 00:15:17,066 Speaker 1: in the show, Herbert's the guy and he knows it. 295 00:15:17,186 --> 00:15:20,826 Speaker 1: So that relationship, you would imagine it's pretty good because 296 00:15:20,826 --> 00:15:23,586 Speaker 1: everyone's got a defined role. But really what makes the 297 00:15:23,626 --> 00:15:26,346 Speaker 1: case for him to be the guy that's got the 298 00:15:26,346 --> 00:15:29,666 Speaker 1: best job? In my mind? Six teams, only five career starts, 299 00:15:29,706 --> 00:15:31,906 Speaker 1: so a little less abuse on that body. He's played 300 00:15:31,946 --> 00:15:35,506 Speaker 1: in sixty nine games, but he's never been a team starter. 301 00:15:35,946 --> 00:15:38,386 Speaker 1: On day number one, twelve years in the League of 302 00:15:38,466 --> 00:15:40,986 Speaker 1: d D and this is where it gets good. Forty 303 00:15:41,186 --> 00:15:46,026 Speaker 1: million dollars in total earnings. Our research team, they're so fantastic. 304 00:15:46,026 --> 00:15:50,466 Speaker 1: How about this? A hundred and fifty three thousand dollars 305 00:15:50,666 --> 00:15:54,586 Speaker 1: per past attempt. That to me is as wild as 306 00:15:54,626 --> 00:15:56,866 Speaker 1: the numbers get. So for me, when I look at 307 00:15:56,866 --> 00:15:59,666 Speaker 1: the average salary for backup quarterback at two point two million, 308 00:16:00,106 --> 00:16:01,866 Speaker 1: I'm kind of wishing I hit the gym a little 309 00:16:01,866 --> 00:16:04,786 Speaker 1: bit harder and I don't know, maybe give myself an 310 00:16:04,786 --> 00:16:08,146 Speaker 1: opportunity to be a backup quarterback at Mike. I would 311 00:16:08,266 --> 00:16:11,306 Speaker 1: never be satisfied being a backup. I would never be 312 00:16:11,426 --> 00:16:15,786 Speaker 1: satisfied being number two. And yes, that is a very 313 00:16:15,906 --> 00:16:20,186 Speaker 1: very impressive career, a testament to his ability to stick 314 00:16:20,226 --> 00:16:23,306 Speaker 1: around and the fact that people wanted him to stay. 315 00:16:23,346 --> 00:16:26,466 Speaker 1: I mean, you think about how many coaches try, how 316 00:16:26,466 --> 00:16:30,346 Speaker 1: many gms try to bring in a young quarterback who 317 00:16:30,346 --> 00:16:33,426 Speaker 1: would be cheaper, who could be a shiny new toy, 318 00:16:33,506 --> 00:16:38,266 Speaker 1: who could potentially one day be the next guy, and 319 00:16:38,346 --> 00:16:42,586 Speaker 1: yet Chase Daniel keeps beating those guys out. Valued for 320 00:16:42,666 --> 00:16:47,266 Speaker 1: his ability to digest and read and help share the 321 00:16:47,346 --> 00:16:52,426 Speaker 1: playbook help support his starting quarterback on game day and 322 00:16:52,546 --> 00:16:55,466 Speaker 1: during the week, and the value in that. Yes, yes, yes, 323 00:16:55,546 --> 00:16:59,386 Speaker 1: again give credit where credit is due. But I wouldn't 324 00:16:59,386 --> 00:17:01,786 Speaker 1: want to be anybody's backup. I'm the one that would 325 00:17:01,786 --> 00:17:04,906 Speaker 1: want to win the Super Bowl myself. Mike k per 326 00:17:04,946 --> 00:17:07,226 Speaker 1: Passe attempt. That's I'm gonna say, like, I get it. 327 00:17:07,266 --> 00:17:10,986 Speaker 1: I know where you're coming from. Three k per Passe attempt, 328 00:17:11,026 --> 00:17:12,666 Speaker 1: but you know you do. But you bring up a 329 00:17:12,666 --> 00:17:15,706 Speaker 1: really good point, Mike, when you talk about the nature 330 00:17:15,826 --> 00:17:19,186 Speaker 1: and demeanor that is necessary to be a long time 331 00:17:19,186 --> 00:17:21,186 Speaker 1: backup in the league. And this actually takes me to 332 00:17:21,226 --> 00:17:23,626 Speaker 1: a story that will go back to Charlie Batch. Frank 333 00:17:23,706 --> 00:17:26,906 Speaker 1: Reich is the current head coach of the Indianapolis Colts. 334 00:17:27,306 --> 00:17:29,346 Speaker 1: Frank Rereich was a quarterback in the NFL for a 335 00:17:29,386 --> 00:17:32,026 Speaker 1: long time. When Charlie Batch was a rookie in the NFL. 336 00:17:32,066 --> 00:17:35,386 Speaker 1: Who was his backup? It was Frank Reich. And frank 337 00:17:35,426 --> 00:17:38,826 Speaker 1: Reich had come from Buffalo where he and Jim Kelly 338 00:17:39,066 --> 00:17:42,626 Speaker 1: used to game plan together and take that to the coaches. 339 00:17:43,066 --> 00:17:47,746 Speaker 1: So Frank comes in. He's Charlie's backup, their quarterback coach 340 00:17:47,786 --> 00:17:51,866 Speaker 1: at the time, in Detroit is Jim Zorne and Frank 341 00:17:51,986 --> 00:17:55,426 Speaker 1: and Charlie are game planning together, and Charlie told me 342 00:17:55,546 --> 00:17:59,266 Speaker 1: that he learned how to be a backup quarterback, how 343 00:17:59,306 --> 00:18:04,026 Speaker 1: to be an unbelievably vital member of the fifty three 344 00:18:04,026 --> 00:18:06,786 Speaker 1: man roster, even if you ever gone on the field 345 00:18:06,946 --> 00:18:10,066 Speaker 1: from Frank Reich. Which leads to another point, right, and 346 00:18:10,186 --> 00:18:15,506 Speaker 1: that is quarterbacks, backup quarterbacks who win super Bowls. To me, like, 347 00:18:15,586 --> 00:18:17,626 Speaker 1: that's always kind of the end game. By the way, 348 00:18:17,706 --> 00:18:19,626 Speaker 1: just one other point that you just made on Frank Reig. 349 00:18:20,026 --> 00:18:22,946 Speaker 1: He's got an opportunity once again. And look we're seeing 350 00:18:22,946 --> 00:18:25,746 Speaker 1: it right now in Indianapolis. But you can also win 351 00:18:26,306 --> 00:18:29,506 Speaker 1: championships as a coach and seeing things differently. So how 352 00:18:29,546 --> 00:18:32,426 Speaker 1: about this, I'll be the backup quarterback in one k 353 00:18:32,546 --> 00:18:34,946 Speaker 1: per past attempt. I'll go into coaching everything that I've 354 00:18:35,026 --> 00:18:38,146 Speaker 1: learned as a backup. I take it into the coaching profession. 355 00:18:38,226 --> 00:18:40,146 Speaker 1: Win a Super Bowl that way back towards my way 356 00:18:40,186 --> 00:18:42,346 Speaker 1: into a championship at DD. I like it, all right, 357 00:18:42,426 --> 00:18:45,226 Speaker 1: whatever you say, Let's go back to backup quarterbacks who 358 00:18:45,226 --> 00:18:49,386 Speaker 1: had unbelievably successful stints in their backup roles when called 359 00:18:49,466 --> 00:18:52,986 Speaker 1: upon which speaks to their excellence as backups. And since 360 00:18:53,026 --> 00:18:54,826 Speaker 1: we were talking about Frank Riich and we talked about 361 00:18:54,826 --> 00:18:56,946 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills and the Jim Kelly, how about we 362 00:18:56,986 --> 00:19:00,706 Speaker 1: go back to the season. And that's when Jim Kelly 363 00:19:00,706 --> 00:19:02,746 Speaker 1: got hurt in a wild card playoff game against the 364 00:19:02,746 --> 00:19:05,706 Speaker 1: Houston Oilers. And guess who came in, d D DA dada, 365 00:19:05,906 --> 00:19:08,546 Speaker 1: Frank Reich. And do you know the whole that Frank 366 00:19:08,626 --> 00:19:12,066 Speaker 1: Freich faced thirty five to three, And do you know 367 00:19:12,106 --> 00:19:15,946 Speaker 1: what quarter Mike the third quarter? And do you know 368 00:19:16,066 --> 00:19:19,826 Speaker 1: what Frank Reich led his Buffalo Bills to do, score 369 00:19:19,946 --> 00:19:26,506 Speaker 1: twenty eight unanswered points, they won the game. Frank finished 370 00:19:26,786 --> 00:19:33,986 Speaker 1: one thirty fods for touchdowns, one of the all time epic, 371 00:19:34,746 --> 00:19:39,746 Speaker 1: epic backup quarterback performances in the playoffs, which speaks to 372 00:19:40,186 --> 00:19:44,066 Speaker 1: his preparation, his ability to be a gamer, and the 373 00:19:44,106 --> 00:19:47,826 Speaker 1: fact that he wasn't, like you, Mike, yam sufficiently satisfied 374 00:19:47,866 --> 00:19:50,186 Speaker 1: to just be a backup and collect a paycheck. To 375 00:19:50,266 --> 00:19:53,146 Speaker 1: be clear, unsaid'd be satisfied. I said I would go 376 00:19:53,186 --> 00:19:55,906 Speaker 1: and do it for the past attempt on the forty 377 00:19:55,906 --> 00:19:58,266 Speaker 1: million dollar career earnings. But look, Frank's not the only 378 00:19:58,266 --> 00:20:01,106 Speaker 1: guy that has been able to accomplish that. There's plenty 379 00:20:01,106 --> 00:20:04,506 Speaker 1: of other backups recently. And should you go back even 380 00:20:04,546 --> 00:20:06,386 Speaker 1: a little bit further back in stree as you made 381 00:20:06,386 --> 00:20:08,586 Speaker 1: reference to Frank right, but Nick Foles is certainly a 382 00:20:08,586 --> 00:20:10,746 Speaker 1: guy that I think is an obvious one. Speaking of 383 00:20:10,786 --> 00:20:13,266 Speaker 1: Frank right, Carson Wentz the whole thing, it all comes 384 00:20:13,266 --> 00:20:15,306 Speaker 1: full circle. But he took over in week fourteen, and 385 00:20:15,346 --> 00:20:17,546 Speaker 1: we know what falls was able to do Tom Brady 386 00:20:17,546 --> 00:20:19,906 Speaker 1: and Drew bled So you go way back in the 387 00:20:19,986 --> 00:20:23,426 Speaker 1: day winning a Super Bowl and handling business and the 388 00:20:23,426 --> 00:20:25,706 Speaker 1: rest of sort of history from a Brady front. Yeah, 389 00:20:25,746 --> 00:20:29,146 Speaker 1: but that's totally different. Come on, Tom Brady took over 390 00:20:29,186 --> 00:20:32,146 Speaker 1: for Drew Bled so week three of the season, Nick 391 00:20:32,186 --> 00:20:36,386 Speaker 1: Foles a week four. Yeah, well look, I mean, look, 392 00:20:36,626 --> 00:20:38,266 Speaker 1: you're the starter day one or you're not. I just 393 00:20:38,306 --> 00:20:40,626 Speaker 1: mean Brady was the starter. Brady was the starter in 394 00:20:40,706 --> 00:20:42,546 Speaker 1: week three. Yes, he went into the game week two, 395 00:20:42,626 --> 00:20:44,826 Speaker 1: but it was week three that Brady started for the 396 00:20:44,826 --> 00:20:47,386 Speaker 1: first time. He had a whole season to build a 397 00:20:47,466 --> 00:20:50,746 Speaker 1: rapport in a chemistry with his teammates to get to 398 00:20:50,826 --> 00:20:54,986 Speaker 1: those playoffs. Nick Foles doesn't take over until Carson Wentz 399 00:20:54,986 --> 00:20:59,426 Speaker 1: gets hurt in week fourteen, Nick Foles finishes the season 400 00:20:59,426 --> 00:21:01,906 Speaker 1: two and one, and then they go on that amazing 401 00:21:01,986 --> 00:21:05,026 Speaker 1: Super Bowl run. I mean, and he was the first 402 00:21:05,066 --> 00:21:07,586 Speaker 1: backup Corps are back to become a Super Bowl m 403 00:21:07,626 --> 00:21:10,746 Speaker 1: v P since Tom Brady, who I think really wasn't 404 00:21:10,786 --> 00:21:13,266 Speaker 1: kind of a backup, because if you started starting week three, 405 00:21:13,626 --> 00:21:15,386 Speaker 1: are you really a backup at that point? I mean, 406 00:21:15,386 --> 00:21:18,066 Speaker 1: I guess technically, but not really. You are the one 407 00:21:18,146 --> 00:21:21,666 Speaker 1: to find the silver lining, I guess. And the judgment 408 00:21:21,666 --> 00:21:23,906 Speaker 1: on Brady, and I'm just saying it's a little bit 409 00:21:23,946 --> 00:21:26,106 Speaker 1: overstated right here, just like when we talk about Tom 410 00:21:26,106 --> 00:21:28,946 Speaker 1: Brady's lack of athleticism. I mean, come on, Tom Brady 411 00:21:29,026 --> 00:21:32,026 Speaker 1: was drafted to be a major league baseball catcher, and 412 00:21:32,026 --> 00:21:34,706 Speaker 1: the Montreal Expos were willing to pay him like a 413 00:21:34,706 --> 00:21:36,626 Speaker 1: second or third round pick and thought he was going 414 00:21:36,666 --> 00:21:38,306 Speaker 1: to be a Hall of Fame catcher. So I am 415 00:21:38,346 --> 00:21:40,986 Speaker 1: tired of hearing about how Brady is not an athlete 416 00:21:41,146 --> 00:21:43,146 Speaker 1: and just a product of his work. The man is 417 00:21:43,186 --> 00:21:47,226 Speaker 1: an athlete. So similarly, let's not overstate that Tom Brady 418 00:21:47,266 --> 00:21:49,146 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl as a backup because that was 419 00:21:49,186 --> 00:21:51,146 Speaker 1: his team. To be fair, That's not the narrative I've 420 00:21:51,186 --> 00:21:54,786 Speaker 1: ever thrown out there in terms of Tom Brady and 421 00:21:54,866 --> 00:21:56,866 Speaker 1: can you tell I feel strongly about you can tell 422 00:21:56,946 --> 00:21:59,106 Speaker 1: you can tell you're fired up any other backups in 423 00:21:59,146 --> 00:22:01,266 Speaker 1: your mind that that certainly resonate for you that have 424 00:22:01,306 --> 00:22:03,146 Speaker 1: been able to have success in the Super Bowl. Well, 425 00:22:03,186 --> 00:22:07,226 Speaker 1: you know, Brett Farve was a backup warner. He only 426 00:22:07,426 --> 00:22:10,426 Speaker 1: started that first Super Bowl year in St. Louis because 427 00:22:10,506 --> 00:22:14,466 Speaker 1: the starter got hurt in the preseason. Doug Williams is 428 00:22:14,506 --> 00:22:18,066 Speaker 1: sort of the craziest story ever. I mean, in seven 429 00:22:18,186 --> 00:22:21,826 Speaker 1: he started two games, he lost both of those games, 430 00:22:22,146 --> 00:22:24,906 Speaker 1: and then it was suddenly decided that he would be 431 00:22:24,946 --> 00:22:27,666 Speaker 1: the starter in the playoffs. And what did he do? 432 00:22:28,346 --> 00:22:31,706 Speaker 1: Lead the Washington football team to a Super Bowl championship 433 00:22:31,826 --> 00:22:36,146 Speaker 1: over John Elway and the Broncos. I mean, it sort 434 00:22:36,186 --> 00:22:37,906 Speaker 1: of begs the question, if he's throw for three dred 435 00:22:37,946 --> 00:22:39,826 Speaker 1: and forty yards in the Super Bowl and you're the 436 00:22:39,826 --> 00:22:42,146 Speaker 1: Super Bowl m v P, why weren't you starting all year? 437 00:22:42,386 --> 00:22:43,986 Speaker 1: So there's something to be said for that. But there 438 00:22:43,986 --> 00:22:47,066 Speaker 1: are examples, and Super Bowl is obviously the extreme one, 439 00:22:47,146 --> 00:22:50,666 Speaker 1: but there are examples. A deity of some quarterbacks who 440 00:22:50,746 --> 00:22:53,146 Speaker 1: when they get that opportunity to start, are able to 441 00:22:53,226 --> 00:22:56,466 Speaker 1: capitalize down the road as a starter for another team. 442 00:22:56,666 --> 00:22:58,586 Speaker 1: One that comes to my mind the Packers obviously with 443 00:22:58,626 --> 00:23:02,426 Speaker 1: Matt Flynn. Remember he got an opportunity back Aaron Rodgers 444 00:23:02,426 --> 00:23:05,026 Speaker 1: dealing with Smith Shoes and Flynn comes in. Then he 445 00:23:05,066 --> 00:23:07,586 Speaker 1: scores a mass a contract from the Seahawks where he 446 00:23:07,626 --> 00:23:09,946 Speaker 1: was getting twenty six million guaranteed. So to me, like, 447 00:23:10,106 --> 00:23:13,866 Speaker 1: there's those examples where guys were able to put that 448 00:23:13,866 --> 00:23:17,146 Speaker 1: pan out. Maybe you shouldn't give a contract based on 449 00:23:17,146 --> 00:23:19,626 Speaker 1: one game, you know, I mean, it was a hell 450 00:23:19,626 --> 00:23:22,586 Speaker 1: of a game fo passing yards, six touchdowns, agreed, But 451 00:23:22,706 --> 00:23:25,746 Speaker 1: maybe you need a bigger body of work before you 452 00:23:25,786 --> 00:23:27,586 Speaker 1: hand out a big fat contract like that. Yeah, but 453 00:23:27,666 --> 00:23:30,386 Speaker 1: these backups who get that opportunity, like this is what 454 00:23:30,466 --> 00:23:32,946 Speaker 1: they're living for, right that preparation you get a chance, 455 00:23:33,186 --> 00:23:36,706 Speaker 1: you exceed the expectation level and you're kind of hoping 456 00:23:36,746 --> 00:23:38,746 Speaker 1: that you get an opportunity to get it done somewhere 457 00:23:38,786 --> 00:23:43,106 Speaker 1: us and Mike really officially, there are seven quarterbacks who 458 00:23:43,146 --> 00:23:47,426 Speaker 1: did not start Week one but ultimately lead their team 459 00:23:47,506 --> 00:23:50,906 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, and one on the final week 460 00:23:50,946 --> 00:23:53,786 Speaker 1: of the season. We talked about Nick Foles. We talked 461 00:23:53,826 --> 00:23:56,186 Speaker 1: and argued a little bit about Tom Brady. There was 462 00:23:56,226 --> 00:23:59,306 Speaker 1: Trent Dilfer who took over for Tony Banks about a 463 00:23:59,386 --> 00:24:01,266 Speaker 1: quarter of the way into the season, and then one 464 00:24:01,306 --> 00:24:04,386 Speaker 1: Super Bowl thirty five for the Ravens. Remember that tremendous 465 00:24:04,386 --> 00:24:07,346 Speaker 1: defense they had. Of course, there was Doug Williams. Then 466 00:24:07,786 --> 00:24:10,746 Speaker 1: you and I, as Giants fans, should remember this one. 467 00:24:11,106 --> 00:24:15,066 Speaker 1: Jeff has Stutler won Super Bowl twenty five and he 468 00:24:15,186 --> 00:24:17,946 Speaker 1: took over with just five games left in the season 469 00:24:18,066 --> 00:24:20,866 Speaker 1: for Phil Simms. There was Jim Plunkett, who won Super 470 00:24:20,866 --> 00:24:24,266 Speaker 1: Bowl fifteen. He took over the fifth game of the season. 471 00:24:24,306 --> 00:24:27,506 Speaker 1: Earl Morrell, who took over for Bob Greasy fairly early 472 00:24:27,546 --> 00:24:30,386 Speaker 1: in the season about five games in, six games in. 473 00:24:30,506 --> 00:24:33,986 Speaker 1: He won all eleven of those games and started all 474 00:24:34,026 --> 00:24:36,546 Speaker 1: the way through the a f C Championship game. I 475 00:24:36,586 --> 00:24:38,986 Speaker 1: do need to say he led the Dolphins to a 476 00:24:38,986 --> 00:24:41,866 Speaker 1: perfect seventeen and oh season. He didn't actually get the 477 00:24:41,866 --> 00:24:45,426 Speaker 1: start in the Super Bowl though, so he started a 478 00:24:45,426 --> 00:24:48,586 Speaker 1: big chunk of the season. He got them there. He 479 00:24:48,626 --> 00:24:50,346 Speaker 1: didn't start in that game, but I feel like we 480 00:24:50,386 --> 00:24:52,706 Speaker 1: can give him an astros sort of credit right there. 481 00:24:52,986 --> 00:24:54,986 Speaker 1: And then of course, you can't forget about Roger Staubach, 482 00:24:55,106 --> 00:24:58,746 Speaker 1: right because he won Super Bowl six. He started Week 483 00:24:58,866 --> 00:25:01,626 Speaker 1: eight and the Cowboys won ten straight games with him 484 00:25:01,626 --> 00:25:04,586 Speaker 1: at the helm. An elite class. But it shows you, too, Mike, 485 00:25:04,746 --> 00:25:07,906 Speaker 1: how important it is to spend at least some money 486 00:25:07,946 --> 00:25:10,706 Speaker 1: on your backup quarterback. But again, this all goes back 487 00:25:10,786 --> 00:25:14,746 Speaker 1: to when you think about your preparation as a backup quarterback. 488 00:25:15,066 --> 00:25:17,986 Speaker 1: You have to fill so many different roles. Right. If 489 00:25:18,026 --> 00:25:20,666 Speaker 1: you're the backup to a young guy, you're a mentor, 490 00:25:20,746 --> 00:25:23,306 Speaker 1: you're a coach, you're a teacher. If you're the backup 491 00:25:23,346 --> 00:25:26,706 Speaker 1: to an older guy, you might be a therapist. In 492 00:25:26,826 --> 00:25:29,866 Speaker 1: some ways, you know, you're kind of a personal assistant 493 00:25:30,186 --> 00:25:33,066 Speaker 1: or an assistant to the offensive coordinator with what you 494 00:25:33,106 --> 00:25:36,906 Speaker 1: see and what you can possibly share. At all times, 495 00:25:37,346 --> 00:25:39,146 Speaker 1: you're a guy that has a ton on your plate 496 00:25:39,266 --> 00:25:41,746 Speaker 1: because you need to make sure you're helping who you 497 00:25:41,746 --> 00:25:44,226 Speaker 1: need to help, that you're learning that week's offense, that 498 00:25:44,306 --> 00:25:47,386 Speaker 1: you're running the scout team on many occasions, unless you 499 00:25:47,386 --> 00:25:50,706 Speaker 1: know your team has a third quarterback, and you have 500 00:25:50,826 --> 00:25:54,106 Speaker 1: to be ready even without the physical preparation. I mean, 501 00:25:54,146 --> 00:25:55,866 Speaker 1: I'll tell you every practice that I'm at the only 502 00:25:55,906 --> 00:25:57,946 Speaker 1: time that I ever see the backup quarterback really take 503 00:25:57,986 --> 00:26:01,666 Speaker 1: reps with the ones is in like run game stuff, 504 00:26:02,146 --> 00:26:03,786 Speaker 1: you know, and handing the ball off is not the 505 00:26:03,826 --> 00:26:06,986 Speaker 1: same as practicing throwing at your first wide receivers. Now, 506 00:26:07,026 --> 00:26:08,866 Speaker 1: I'm with you, and I think you've painted a great 507 00:26:08,906 --> 00:26:12,346 Speaker 1: picture with some of your conversations with backup quarterbacks. I 508 00:26:12,386 --> 00:26:14,946 Speaker 1: think we can leave everyone with this idea, and I 509 00:26:14,946 --> 00:26:17,106 Speaker 1: think it's a great quote and it puts into full 510 00:26:17,226 --> 00:26:20,146 Speaker 1: context with some backups are dealing with Chris Wanky, who 511 00:26:20,146 --> 00:26:22,626 Speaker 1: was an NFL backup for a long period of time, 512 00:26:22,986 --> 00:26:24,546 Speaker 1: I think you put it best. He said, you've been 513 00:26:24,546 --> 00:26:27,306 Speaker 1: sitting around all day and now you're running with the bulls. 514 00:26:27,466 --> 00:26:30,106 Speaker 1: You're running for your life, and you have to process 515 00:26:30,186 --> 00:26:32,786 Speaker 1: all of this information. You know, you haven't even had 516 00:26:32,866 --> 00:26:36,306 Speaker 1: physical reps with the first team. This is violent sport. 517 00:26:36,386 --> 00:26:38,426 Speaker 1: A d D. It could be dangerous for some of 518 00:26:38,466 --> 00:26:41,546 Speaker 1: those guys out there who maybe aren't necessarily prepared, But 519 00:26:41,666 --> 00:26:43,626 Speaker 1: a d D. It has been awesome going through some 520 00:26:43,666 --> 00:26:46,586 Speaker 1: of the nuance that comes with the backup quarterback position. 521 00:26:46,626 --> 00:26:48,786 Speaker 1: If you've got a favorite backup quarterback, we'd love to 522 00:26:48,826 --> 00:26:52,106 Speaker 1: hear from you. On social media at Mike Underscore. Yeah, 523 00:26:52,226 --> 00:26:55,706 Speaker 1: at a Kinka wala use that hashtag, NFL explained and 524 00:26:55,706 --> 00:26:58,426 Speaker 1: if you have a question just fire it our way. 525 00:26:58,586 --> 00:27:00,906 Speaker 1: It could come up. In a later episode of the 526 00:27:00,986 --> 00:27:04,226 Speaker 1: NFL Explained podcast, A d D. Great job today. 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