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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where deodorant is optional.

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Speaker 2: You just put me on blasts like that. How dare you?

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Speaker 2: I'm coming from practice.

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Speaker 1: Man, so lucky today to be joined by Jordan rod

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Speaker 1: Rieg who It's not weird that you don't have deodorant

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Speaker 1: coming from practice. That's normal. It's just surprising you told

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Speaker 1: me that. Right before we win.

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Speaker 2: I had to warn you. I didn't want you to

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Speaker 2: start like wille I was.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna that's I wasn't gonna smell. And then

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Speaker 1: we're in a big studio. It's not gonna happen. And

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Speaker 1: even if it happens.

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Speaker 2: I'm always prepared for a scenario. This is you should

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Speaker 2: know this like, and that includes looping people in I communicate.

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Speaker 1: Well, you weren't prepared enough to, you know, bring extra

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Speaker 2: I said, I was. I was on a mission.

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Speaker 1: Look, practice, it's still happening out there. Training camps might

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Speaker 1: officially be over for the most part, but the teams

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Speaker 1: are now practicing. They're kind of adjusting. And you're you're

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Speaker 1: a beat reporter. You work for the Athletic and you

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Speaker 1: were there at RAMS practice. You saw Matthew Stafford back

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Speaker 1: on the field doing individual work. So like these two

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Speaker 1: weeks of practice, they're going to be a little different.

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Speaker 1: Some teams play starters in the third week of the preseason.

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Speaker 1: The forty nine ers actually are apparently going to play

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Speaker 1: teams do, most teams don't. Teams are getting ready for

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Speaker 1: Week one. We're there. Football is back, Yeah, you're you

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Speaker 1: know you're getting there too. I'm excited about today's show, Jordan.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk a little later about players that

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Speaker 1: could be changing places. So next week it'll be on Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: the twenty seventh. I think we're going to release our

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Speaker 1: NFL Daily Show earlier that day to have it right

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Speaker 1: after the cutdown. It's cutdown day, we go from ninety

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Speaker 1: to fifty three. But over the weekend, as this is

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Speaker 1: all happening, there will be some interesting names that shake loose,

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Speaker 1: maybe some trades, so we'll come up with a few trades. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So right now, every NFL building in the league has

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Speaker 2: a team of pro scouts who have been watching all

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Speaker 2: the preseason tape. They've had some pro scouts who have

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Speaker 2: been traveling to preseason road games to what they call

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Speaker 2: advance so study each other's players essentially, and also try

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Speaker 2: the road, kind of what they're doing, if they're being

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Speaker 2: totally vanilla preseason, or if they can glean any sort

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Speaker 2: of information. A lot of things that you can't see

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Speaker 2: have a list of ten to fifteen players who at

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Speaker 2: certain positions who if you decide you're going to part

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Speaker 2: ways with one of your guys, is this other guy

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Speaker 1: And the tricky thing is, if it was truly a

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Speaker 1: surprise trade, we probably wouldn't be able to guess it,

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Speaker 1: because there have been some pretty big trades at this

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Speaker 2: Wasn't that Kevin Dotson baby who.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that actually ended up being a big move for

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Speaker 1: the Rams, so they ended up getting him like what

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Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about players that could be changing.

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Speaker 1: We're also going to hit just a few takeaways from

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Speaker 1: my top fifty free agents of twenty twenty five, because

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Speaker 1: it's related that the players that are free agents next

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Speaker 1: before we do any of that, we're going to do

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Speaker 1: some news. But I do want to apologize. I guess

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Speaker 2: Again, love that Daniel Popper my Collie. Yet the Athletic

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Speaker 1: Next in the news, Jaden Daniels officially announced as the

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Speaker 3: I told you about a month ago that naming our

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Speaker 3: excited about watching how he would, and the how has

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Speaker 1: I don't want to just turn this show into a

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Speaker 1: Jad and Daniels love fest every day because I was

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Speaker 1: a little skeptical of this pick. I thought Drake may

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Speaker 1: and I think has shown the advantage of being a

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Speaker 2: If anything, I was more skeptical of what's around him.

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Speaker 2: I remain skeptical a little bit of what's around him

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Speaker 1: I like when they say that, but I mean, I

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Speaker 1: get it, I see it, married but it's not the

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Speaker 1: And Jade and Daniels, he gets rid of the ball

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Speaker 1: I'm very interested to see to start the season. But

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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury has a history of starting seasons fast that

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Speaker 1: they his offenses in Arizona were almost always at their best,

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Speaker 1: They were always at their best in September for whatever reason.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of the Dolphins, let's talk about Tua tungavai Loa.

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Speaker 1: He was on the Dan Lebottard Show presented by Meadow

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Speaker 1: Lark Media, speaking with the Laboratarde. Let's listen to Dan

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Speaker 1: ask him a question about the differences in coaching that

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Speaker 4: Can you explain to us the difference in practical terms

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Speaker 4: what was happening with Flores.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, to put it in simplest terms, if you

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Speaker 5: at what you did, that you don't belong doing what

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Speaker 5: you do, that you shouldn't be here, that this guy

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Speaker 5: then you have somebody else come in and tell you, dude,

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Speaker 5: you are the best fit for this, Like you are accurate,

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Speaker 5: you are the best. Whatever you are, this you are that.

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Speaker 5: Like how would it make you feel listening to one

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Speaker 1: That's a little snippet of an interview. YE recommend people

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Speaker 1: go check out. And yeah, it's the Dan Levatard Show

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Speaker 1: with Stu Gotts. You have to say with Stu.

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Speaker 2: Gott's top ten football insider.

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Speaker 1: His lawyers just go crazy on you.

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Speaker 1: I was curious what you thought of this. You recently

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Speaker 1: wrote about left handed quarterbacks and TUA, and I know

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Speaker 1: you're familiar with some of the people in that building.

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Speaker 1: Just what a difference it's been between Flores and Mike McDaniel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I can't speak to what it was

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Speaker 2: like before. When I did a piece on the spread

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Speaker 2: of that exit motion, that cheap motion across the league,

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Speaker 2: and I spent some time in Miami last season, And

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Speaker 2: this was right before Austin Jackson got paid and Tua

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Speaker 2: I always like to listen to the beat reporters because

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Speaker 2: I was just like to listen and hear kind of

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Speaker 2: the chatter and the dialogue, and that definitely got people

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Speaker 2: talking about, you know, just kind of him. This was

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Speaker 2: reference to some of the dynamics that he's saying existed before.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was pretty he was really blunt here

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Speaker 1: there and knowing just what people have said about Floris

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Speaker 1: and how he coaches. Yeah, he's hardcore. I think he's

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Speaker 1: like that in real life, that he's going to tell

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Speaker 1: but that was probably with an idea of like making

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Speaker 1: It's like it's more or less what they've done since

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Speaker 2: That's today, even though even though I'm I'm going to

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Speaker 1: So maybe Joe Toney comes off the books actually, and

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Speaker 1: so maybe you can get it done. You probably sign

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Speaker 1: one long term franchise the other and hope to get

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Speaker 1: that next contract done.

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Speaker 2: Question the fick question for you with Justin Reid, who

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Speaker 2: I think is fascinating, not just because he's a great player,

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Speaker 2: but also the special team stuff, like with this kickoff

442
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Speaker 2: they're wanting we don't know what, we don't know yet,

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Speaker 2: but in a perfect world where this kickoff does actually

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Speaker 2: change some of the parameters and constructs of football as

445
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Speaker 2: we know it, do you think that there's a little

446
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Speaker 2: bit more value added long term if this kickoff goes

447
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Speaker 2: the way that I think us wow, us football freaks are.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Justin Reid's gonna really have that

449
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Speaker 1: big of a role. We'll see just.

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Speaker 2: A little bump like couple mill you know, couple of

451
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Speaker 2: mill bumps.

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Speaker 1: I think Brett Veach is so disciplined that he would.

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Speaker 1: They don't really pay in the secondary that much, right,

454
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Speaker 1: and when they do pay, it's guys like Justin Reid

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Speaker 1: and Tyron Matthew. When he came aboard we are more

456
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Speaker 1: like mid to late twenties, and justin Reid's, you know,

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Speaker 1: case a second or third contract, do you want to

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Speaker 1: give it to him as he's getting closer to thirty.

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Speaker 1: Probably not. I think it's going to be easier to

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Speaker 1: find edge players in this there's always like good not

461
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Speaker 1: great edge players available. Weirdly like that's a position you

462
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Speaker 1: can find. So a Chase Young is available next year

463
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Speaker 1: and I think could be having a really good season.

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence, who's getting up there in years but is

465
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Speaker 1: still a good player, Josh Sweat, Malcolm Koons, Hassan Reddick's

466
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Speaker 1: a free agent at this point, Baron Browning, like Khalil Mack.

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Speaker 1: You can find some edge players tackles a little deeper

468
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Speaker 1: than normal. Your Rams guy Alric Jackson is one of

469
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Speaker 1: many guys who walker little Cam Robinson, Ronnie Stanley, Judgic Wills,

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Speaker 1: all these guys who used would say aren't really top

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Speaker 1: eight tackles, but they might actually get to the market

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Speaker 1: so they'll get paid a lot of money. And then

473
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Speaker 1: cornerback's a little deeper than normal. Tar Various war To Sante,

474
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Speaker 1: Samuel Junior, Paulson, Adiebo, Carlton Davis, Byron Murphy. But the

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Speaker 1: problem is the ones who are really good this year,

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Speaker 1: they won't be available. That's the thing. Teams are just

477
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Speaker 1: better than ever at keeping the guys that they want,

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Speaker 1: and so that's the whole thing. Was like, all you know,

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Speaker 1: Chiefs have to play a lot of court to their quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know, usually players don't become available unless

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Speaker 1: the teams basically don't really want them.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, pay your offensive line. Yes, there's that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if anything, Patrick Mahomes is so underpaid because

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Speaker 1: he's making the same as all these players who aren't

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Speaker 1: nearly as good as him. It's like, why is Justin

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Speaker 1: Herbert essentially the same as Patrick Mahomes. It doesn't really

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Speaker 1: make any sense. So the salary cap helps out the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: And then yeah, finally, Dak he's gonna if he wants

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Speaker 1: to push this, and I think he does, he's going

490
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Speaker 1: to be the highest paid player in NFL history by far,

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Speaker 1: by leaps and bounds. I think if he gets to

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Speaker 1: free agency. I thought Kirk, I thought Lamar could have

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Speaker 1: done this, and then weirdly it didn't really happen for

494
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Speaker 1: him for whatever reason. By I think Dak it's just

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Speaker 1: going to be outrageous in the teams out there. There'll

496
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Speaker 1: be many teams out there that want him, so he

497
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Speaker 1: can push and he can just set a totally new

498
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Speaker 1: boundary of guaranteed money, and I think get like a

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Speaker 1: fully guaranteed four year type of contract.

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Speaker 2: I do have a hot take about this. It's not

501
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Speaker 2: really a hot take. It's more like to me, it

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Speaker 2: seems very logical, like if you're a team that's not

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Speaker 2: quite one hundred percent sure, like you don't like, for example,

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Speaker 2: you don't have a starting caliber or franchise caliber or

505
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Speaker 2: on that track quarterback on a rookie deal, for example,

506
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Speaker 2: or you don't have Josh Allen or pat Patrick Mahomes

507
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Speaker 2: or just those guys. If you're not quite sure who

508
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Speaker 2: your quarterback might be in twenty twenty five, you get

509
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Speaker 2: on the phone yesterday, like you start laying the framework

510
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Speaker 2: to try to first of all, get if you can

511
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Speaker 2: before he actually hits the market and the price goes

512
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Speaker 2: way way up, and then you negotiate in house with

513
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Speaker 2: him because once there's gonna be a lot of teams

514
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Speaker 2: who are in this and and let me let me

515
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Speaker 2: be clear, I'm very pro player make all the money

516
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Speaker 2: he can, particularly a player of Dak Prescott's caliber like

517
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Speaker 2: and leadership, and he's gonna lead whichever franchise he goes to,

518
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Speaker 2: or if he stays, which doesn't necessarily seem like that's

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Speaker 2: likely at this point. It takes a change, it could happen.

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, but fifty to fifty. I mean that's

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Speaker 2: like a huge like yeah, you just said it. Teams

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Speaker 2: pay the players they want to keep, you know, and

523
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Speaker 2: so this is going to be really interesting because if

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Speaker 2: you are sort of elbowing around with a bunch of

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Speaker 2: other teams in the same free agency market. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's great for Dak if that happens. I would love

527
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Speaker 2: that for him if that happens. But if you're from

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Speaker 2: a team perspective, you're going to try to get this

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Speaker 2: done even before that, like by November, and I think

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Speaker 2: that it's good luck.

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Speaker 1: Though that's tough. He's in the middle of a season

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Speaker 1: and he'll know, and I bet he already does know.

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Speaker 2: Just knowing, I'm sure he wants to hit free agency,

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Speaker 2: and I would I would think any player in his

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Speaker 2: position would want to hit free agent. I'm just saying

536
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Speaker 2: from a team perspective, there are going to be multiple teams.

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Speaker 2: If he doesn't get extended by the Cowboys, there are

538
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Speaker 2: going to be multiple teams who are going after him

539
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Speaker 2: like pretty hard.

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Speaker 1: And that would be sooner then later, and we'll see

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Speaker 1: how this season goes. That's going to impact everything. There

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Speaker 1: are teams like Tennessee Tampa, the Raiders will be interested regardless,

543
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Speaker 1: like who knows, like like if the Rams went crazy

544
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Speaker 1: like it could be, it could be a lot of

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Speaker 1: different teams that would be interested. So it's just something

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Speaker 1: to watch kind of hanging over the twenty twenty five season.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about something that's going to happen

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Speaker 1: before the twenty four season even starts. We'll talk about

549
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: some players we think could be in new places in

550
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Speaker 1: the matter of the next couple of weeks. We'll do

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Speaker 1: that after the break. Oh yeah, back on NFL Daily

552
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 1: with Jordan Rodrigg of the Athletic and before we get

553
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Speaker 1: to players who could be on new teams in the

554
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Speaker 1: next couple of weeks, I did want to ask you, Jordan,

555
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: about something you sent out on Twitter Sunday night. So

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Speaker 1: let's bring up the tweet. Oh she's here, Randy, And

557
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Speaker 1: it was a reminder that Jordan is an identical twin.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, there she is.

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Speaker 1: And she explained her twin identical twin sister, which I

560
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: knew about, but I get it had been a long

561
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: time ago and we didn't know each other as well.

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Speaker 1: And I have to admit I sort of forgot you're

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Speaker 1: an identical twin and that she is what is she

564
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Speaker 1: the ocean X head of science operations, So she is

565
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Speaker 1: running these scientific adventures to find life force across the globe.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, I don't understand. I'm going to explain this ly.

567
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 2: I attempt to explain this, and then I check with

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Speaker 2: her if I did it right, which when she and

569
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Speaker 2: every her entire crew listens to the show, they listen

570
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 2: to everything that I'm ever on, which is like extreme

571
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 2: pressure because it's a wide array.

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Speaker 1: Where are they right now?

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Speaker 2: There is right now, although we do I have to

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Speaker 2: bleep that out because I don't be allowed to say, yeah,

575
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Speaker 2: right now they are looking for and I can't say it,

576
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 2: but it's very cool, and you will see the scientific

577
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Speaker 2: research they found it that they found the thing they're

578
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Speaker 2: looking for, and it's very very rad and you will

579
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Speaker 2: see the scientific papers published on this and also some

580
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Speaker 2: some media content on this I believe in the spring.

581
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Speaker 2: So yeah, she is the smartest person I've ever met,

582
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Speaker 2: and it's pretty cool to know that and to have

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Speaker 2: that working.

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Speaker 1: In this mass Like a little bit of a humble

585
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: brag though, like my identical twin sister is the smartest person.

586
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Speaker 2: Oh, we don't have the do you know how twins work?

587
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: We don't have a share a brain.

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Speaker 1: To my best friends growing up identical twins, so I know,

589
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Speaker 1: don't share a brain. A little bit of the struggles

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Speaker 1: they go through, which comes from people like me that

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Speaker 1: assume you know.

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Speaker 2: But I just think, did you want me to talk

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00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: about my sister or just we're gonna keep talking about you?

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00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: No, let's hear it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, sounds good. So she she's the smart It's cool

596
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: when you work in our field, we get to meet

597
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: a lot of really awesome people, really smart people, people

598
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: who run NFL. She is the smartest person I've ever met.

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Speaker 2: She runs the science programming at ocean X, and for

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Speaker 2: most of the year she is on board the world's

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Speaker 2: most advanced scientific research vessel. It's basically like a floating

602
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: moving laboratory with submersibles like real submersibles, not the touristy

603
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 2: ones that you see horrible headlines about, but actual and

604
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Speaker 2: they work with you know, James Cameron and nat Geo

605
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Speaker 2: and a lot of the BBC to put out educational programming.

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Speaker 1: Ocean X Explorers is on not Geo and it's on

607
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: Disney Plus and Hulu and you can and your sisters

608
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: all over that she is.

609
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: She she runs everything behind the scenes and so it's

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Speaker 2: a huge testament the things that they can do and

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00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: the things that they've found. And the recent one that

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Speaker 2: I am allowed to talk about, it's on YouTube. You

613
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: can find it. She was the lead on the team

614
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Speaker 2: that helped discover an ancient rediscover an ancient species of

615
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: squid that they didn't think was still on the planet.

616
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Speaker 2: It was living in a shipwreck. So they went down

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Speaker 2: in a sub and like found a squid, an ancient

618
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: squid that was living in a shipwreck. It was extremely cool.

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Speaker 1: That is so cool, and I love that you know

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Speaker 1: your thread about it, and I miss her a lot

621
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: with a dig of that. She's a Cardinals fan and

622
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: then maybe that's why she lives on a ship, So

623
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Speaker 1: maybe she's not that smart. So we'll be rooting for

624
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Speaker 1: the card maybe she can make chicks or give Cardinals

625
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Speaker 1: analysis from the submersible.

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Speaker 2: She did text me she said it's a scientific ship,

627
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: not a championship Jordan. So that's where she cell phoned

628
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 2: a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I love that, and just I'm sort of fascinated by that.

630
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Speaker 1: I feel like I have.

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Speaker 2: She's amazing. Go follow what they're doing. They're doing some

632
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: amazing important things and also getting people from diverse communities

633
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: more involved in STEM and giving opportunities to young people

634
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: who are interested in STEM and helping them grow through

635
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: that field. And we need more people involved in that

636
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: field and protecting our planet.

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Speaker 1: So I love it. You know, I think you're equally

638
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: as smart, but I don't even know our I'm just guessing,

639
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: all right, you're gonna I'm gonna test your your brains

640
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: here because we're gonna have a brain exercise in terms

641
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: of putting players onto new teams, like player movement. What

642
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: could happen over the next week, Like I said, August

643
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 1: twenty seventh is cutdown day. We'll start to hear some

644
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: cuts over the weekend as we get through these third

645
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: preseason games. Some traits one that I think is very logical.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to throughout. First, let's go Hassan Redick to

647
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: the Bears. I think the Jets are sick of this.

648
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: I don't see an end to this. There was reporting

649
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: from Albert Breer that the Bears and the Falcons both

650
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: had third round picks on offer for Matthew Judon, So

651
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Speaker 1: it shows the Bears know that position that we've been

652
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,959
Speaker 1: talking about for them is quite thin, that they were

653
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: willing to give up a third round pick. I would

654
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: rather have a Son Reddick than Matthew Juna if I

655
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: had to pick.

656
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: I like that.

657
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: I liked it. So I'm just saying, like that third

658
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: round pick that they were going to give for Judaan,

659
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: let's send it to the Jets. That's what the Jets

660
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: had sent a conditional one out, so Joe Douglas gets

661
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: to save some face, and maybe the conditions aren't even

662
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: met now, so he actually upgrades to a hard third

663
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: round pick, and the Bears just continued to go all in.

664
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: The Only question here because that makes it makes too

665
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: much sense, Greg like it, really it really does. Like

666
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: the The only question here is whether Joe Douglas thinks

667
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: that saving face on this means winning a standoff, or

668
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: whether he thinks it means trading a player and recouping

669
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: something in return, like, well, whatever his debt.

670
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: They need they need edge rushers. Still, yeah, that's the

671
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: reason why they traded for him. They lost Bryce Huff.

672
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: They were still playing Will McDonald, their first round pick

673
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: from a year ago, pretty deep into that preseason game.

674
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: Work him in as like a third or fourth. So

675
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: but if he decided that a son Reddick really might

676
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: not show up, that this thing between us is just

677
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: not going to happen, and the Bears are like, hey man,

678
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: we'll pay you and get it done. I think that

679
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: would be a fun one, all right.

680
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 2: You through that one, I was actually looking at and

681
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: I covered him early in his career, and so I

682
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: kind of been tracking following along the down year and

683
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: then also the move to safety. But James Bradbury, I

684
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: know he's not necessarily like a big name, but if

685
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: we're if we're talking about right now, you know I

686
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: did connect him potentially back to Carolina. Even Carolina tried

687
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: to get Stefan Gilmore. Stefan Gilmour was like, Noop, not

688
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: going there. And I do think that Carolina very first

689
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: of all, they need a lot of players, But they

690
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: very much need a corner. He's playing safety right now,

691
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: which shows that they're trying to in Philly, trying to

692
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: find a fit for him. They're also going to have

693
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: like Cooper de Gene come back, They're going to have

694
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: some health return and some other players that they're going

695
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: to want to play. And he started his career in

696
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: Carolina and they liked him a lot. They just didn't

697
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 2: pay him when it was time to get paid, and

698
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: there was changing regimes and a lot of things that

699
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: went into that. But I do think that getting him

700
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 2: back at corner getting Carolina, you know, just something a

701
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: player who knows what to do, a player who can

702
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: play like help. They've got some juice a little bit

703
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: now with Javian Clowney rushing the passer, so you know,

704
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: I think they just need a little bit more help

705
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: on the back side.

706
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: Okay, he's thirty one years old, so yeah, if they

707
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: gave up a conditional seven the Eagles, I don't think

708
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: he's going to make the Eagles. He just seems like

709
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: he's at a point in his career. Maybe you get

710
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: the revival year out of them, but the Eagles don't

711
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: believe that they could get it. Out of them, so

712
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: that is worrisome to me. There's a weird amount of cornerbacks,

713
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, that are available. So I thought about the

714
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 1: Panthers too, because they're high on the list of two

715
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: things that need corners, but there's a half the league

716
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: needs corners. Cardinals could certainly use a corner. I think

717
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: the Broncos could use a second corner. Adri Jackson is

718
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: not signed anywhere. I thought he was okay lost. I mean,

719
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: I know he was in a tough situation with Wink Martindale's,

720
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: but he's had some really good years in his career.

721
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: He's twenty eight years old. How is he not on

722
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: a roster? Akello Witherspoon doesn't have a team as far

723
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: as I can tell. I think Xavier and Howard might

724
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: be a little cooked, but I'm surprised that no team's

725
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: given him a chance. Patrick Peterson is out there, Eli Apple.

726
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: It gets a little lower on.

727
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: The list some of these guys, though. It's like it

728
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 2: falls into a category of you wait until every team

729
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: is finished cuts, and then you sort of assess the.

730
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 1: There are some guys out there for teams that are

731
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: truly desperate. Witherspoon, Adri Jackson to me, are guys that

732
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: can play now for you?

733
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Akello played well, especially during the first part of

734
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: last season for the Rams super young group. But I

735
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: mean it just basically it blew out his legs essentially

736
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: like he was dealing with hamstring issues. I wouldn't be

737
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: surprised if he's taking his time. He's savvy enough, really

738
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 2: smart player, savvy enough to be like, yeah, I'm in

739
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 2: a miss training camp, uh, and then get picked up

740
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: by someone who needs help. He's just a really smart player.

741
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: He could he could fit into a system really well.

742
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's try to go with big names here,

743
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: John Dotson, this.

744
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 2: Is the one I've been excited for you to bring up.

745
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: Well, it's not like it's a that original of a thought.

746
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: He's playing deep into a preseason game and that's a

747
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: first red flag and then the reporters ask him about it.

748
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: And I was listening to a podcast hosted by Ben

749
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: Standig of The Athletic Last Me instead and we can

750
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: check it out.

751
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 2: Great, And I'm just gonna say last Man's standing. He's

752
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: got two puns.

753
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: That's great. And yeah, he expounded on this notion too,

754
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: that they they've been asking the coaches about it, and

755
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: they won't. They won't commit to anything. They're just saying

756
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: it's a competition. When they ask about the wide receivers,

757
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: they bring up Alamedas Zakias first and Diami Brown. So

758
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: it looks like Dammy Brown's maybe on the outside, but

759
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: Zakias is on the inside, and Dotson's a former first

760
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: round pick, and that maybe just something hasn't been right

761
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: with him. It sounded like maybe, just like not with

762
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,959
Speaker 1: the new program. It's a new coaching staff who didn't

763
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 1: draft him in the first round, and so I tend

764
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: to think he's he's available right now. If someone wants

765
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: to give up a pick for him, now, how high

766
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: of a pick will it take to get him? He

767
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: was a first round pick there, but they didn't draft him.

768
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: Would they take a fourth for Johan Dotson right now?

769
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: From the Ravens. I like that fit. Yes, I know

770
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: those two teams don't like each other, but or they

771
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: didn't used to, especially when Dan Snyder was there. But

772
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: let's be real, no one liked Washington when Dan Snyder

773
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: was there.

774
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: Teams that I think could use another receiver. Kind of

775
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 2: some interesting stuff happening. I mean, I don't know that

776
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: he's necessarily a fit in Miami, but some interesting stuff

777
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 2: happening with their three spot. Yeah, you know the Colts Lions.

778
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: Bills Lions are the other team.

779
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 2: I think really really would like to fit. I mean,

780
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: I again you mentioned on your podcast Monday. On this

781
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 2: podcast Monday morning, Dan Campbell was like, really we really

782
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 2: need the three receiver.

783
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: I know, that's what it makes sense. So Dotson's a

784
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: guy who's he's not the biggest receiver in One of

785
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: his best traits is like winning at the catch point,

786
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: which is a tricky skill. And end of the Bills

787
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: then sounded like maybe he lost a little bit of

788
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: confidence towards the end of last year, But I thought

789
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: he had a good rookie year. There's going to be

790
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: a lot of people that had good rookie grades on him.

791
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: Your friend Ron Rivera drafted him there. You know those

792
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: Commanders teams, they always like drafting their guys way higher

793
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: than the consensus sport had him. So they did take

794
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: him a little earlier. But people certainly had first round

795
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: grades on Dots and he could be an interesting player.

796
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: Steelers are obviously desperate for a wide receiver. That's another

797
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: team would they give up a third. It's just not

798
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: something that Steelers would do normally. I think maybe the

799
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: Ravens are so good at getting those compensatory picks that

800
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: maybe they could they could send a third over for

801
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: Johan Dotson and get it done.

802
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: Those were also teams, you know, if we go into

803
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 2: more of a speed round of maybe not as known names,

804
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: those were also some teams that I had as potential

805
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: targets for to too at. Well, it's he's a really

806
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: really fast player. He plays bigger than he looks. He

807
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: looks small on tape and also in person, but he

808
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: plays with a lot of heart and blocking, and he's

809
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: been in this system so he's had to learn how

810
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: to block and to kind of make up for some

811
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: of maybe his size limitations. But he's a super fast player.

812
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 2: So I look at teams like Miami. I look at

813
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 2: again the Bills, I look at the Chiefs. I even

814
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 2: look at the Steelers because a lot of the stuff

815
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: that they run in Los Angeles, you know, while it's

816
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 2: not necessarily him cutting through traffic in the middle of

817
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: the field, it's also eventually him exploiting the middle of

818
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: the field. On some of these these concepts and then

819
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: I also kind of thought that Brad Holmes might give

820
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 2: his old friend and mentor Lesned a call, but after

821
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 2: week one two to out well. The reason I bring

822
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 2: him up is because when the Rams are an eleven personnel,

823
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: their three receivers are Cooper Cup, pukin a Coua, and

824
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: DeMarcus Robinson. They also have Jordan Whittington emerging, Tyler Johnson emerging.

825
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: Those two players back up Pokin Akua and or Cooper Cup.

826
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 2: Xavier Smith has really emerged as a versatile speed threat,

827
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: and two two backs up DeMarcus Robinson at the X,

828
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 2: which is not the high volume target in this offense.

829
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 2: It's the Cooper Cup slash pookin a Coua. So for

830
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: that reason situation they use them situationally to great production.

831
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: But he's going into his fourth season and if you're

832
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: not going to resign him, it just sort of seems

833
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 2: like at this point, try to get something something.

834
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: Back someone in that coaching triol though those you know,

835
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: too many of those teams already a deep at receiver.

836
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 2: Maybe Miami, I see it, I see it for my

837
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 2: but I do see it. I see it for the

838
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 2: Chiefs too, because it's.

839
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: Like you got. They actually weirdly have a lot of receipt.

840
00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: I think they're good.

841
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 2: But if you've got if you've got speed, yeah add

842
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 2: more speed.

843
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I could see.

844
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: That, and then I could also see Lions, but only

845
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: after week one because they play ech other.

846
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: My issue with that is, like other teams will look

847
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: at him is like, man, that was John mcvay's guy.

848
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: That was his binky to two hour Well. He needed

849
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: to make to two hour well work. And so like,

850
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: if he's willing to give him up, then that's a

851
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: little bit of a red flag. We need to get

852
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill to the Chargers. We cannot have Eastern Stick

853
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: playing meaningful snaps. And I know Herbert was back at practice,

854
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: but just can't happen, Like I don't it just it's

855
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: been a tough preseason for Eastern Stick and he might

856
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: not be a good fit with Jim Harbaugh. And you

857
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: can't expect Herbert to be healthy for sixteen weeks. So

858
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: that's what I want to see. Marsha and Lattimore has

859
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: been out of practice since the very beginning of practice.

860
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: I have no information on this. If his hip is

861
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: really that injured, that's a concern. And he won't be

862
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: very tradable. But there has been issues between Latimore and

863
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: that coaching staff. Sometimes you wonder at this time of year,

864
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: when a veteran has a day one training camp injury

865
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,959
Speaker 1: and then his out all of training camp, whether there's

866
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Speaker 1: something a little more going on. There were trade rumors

867
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Speaker 1: about him, then they came into camp saying we're not

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Speaker 1: going to move Lattimore. He's with there. He would be

869
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Speaker 1: very attractive to a lot of teams when he's healthy,

870
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Speaker 1: he's awesome. I think the Broncos, you know, Sean Payton,

871
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 1: would certainly love to get his hands back on him.

872
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 1: If you wanted to get really crazy, this would never happen.

873
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Speaker 1: But I've just picked up like a little bit of

874
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Speaker 1: Sean Payton, Like Leah, Let's let's see if Patrick Surtan

875
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Speaker 1: puts out as good a year as you guys say

876
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Speaker 1: he is. Like they haven't been that interested in extending him,

877
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Speaker 1: and he's always just kind of needling Patrick Curtan. I

878
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: don't think Patrick Kuttan would ever be available, but I

879
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 1: don't know Lattimore for certain things.

880
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Speaker 2: Sometimes, I mean, did we think that Dak Prescott could

881
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 2: potentially be available? I mean this is sometimes things happen,

882
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: things changed.

883
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Speaker 1: Right, that would that would have to be if the

884
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: season probably goes wrong for them. So that's more fantasy.

885
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: But the Broncos going after Latimore would make more sense.

886
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: And to be clear, Broncos fans, I'm not saying they

887
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: would ever do that, and if they had to do it,

888
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: if they did it, like you would be getting Saints

889
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: would have to be giving a lot of picks up

890
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: with Latimore to get a guy like Sir Tan. But

891
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: the Saints are a team that don't really care about

892
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: giving picks up, like.

893
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: They're the f them picks team. I will see Ryan Tannehill. Okay,

894
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 2: to the Chargers, I will raise you, yes, Sean Clifford

895
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: to the Charge, we're in backup quarterback placement territory.

896
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Speaker 1: Why would they? Why would no one wants John Clifford.

897
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: Jim Harbough recruited him. Okay, now, do we really not

898
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: want to this is for the plot, Greg, do we

899
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 2: really want to recrash? Do we really not want to

900
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 2: rehash absolutely insane Jim Harbaugh recruiting stories and also get

901
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 2: your guy from Too Lane And this is for the

902
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 2: plot alone. I mean we've said some names.

903
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Speaker 1: I would like it. Sean Clifford doesn't.

904
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Speaker 2: See Clifford is a guy.

905
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Speaker 1: It's too similar to East and stick to me, you

906
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: know some other names, and this is more it's a

907
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: different conversation. But it's in season. Just some players more

908
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on in season that we already

909
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: mentioned New Hopkins. Yeah, the Titans. It's like, your team

910
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,240
Speaker 1: has to go a little wrong for this to be possible,

911
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin, if the Bucks went a little bad, Kirk Cousins,

912
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: I mean, is that.

913
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: Bustbulity spicy, very very spicy. I think that Again, it's

914
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 2: a bit of a hotter take here, but I think,

915
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 2: like what we're so hung up on, and as we

916
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: should be, by the way us on the outside, is

917
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 2: that the Falcons paid Kirk. Yes, and so you're like, well,

918
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 2: they paid Kirk, they wouldn't move on from Kirk. The

919
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 2: money is the factor here. But they've showed that they

920
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 2: do not care about the money, because if they cared

921
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: about the money, they wouldn't have drafted Michael Pennix where

922
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 2: they did, and they're not playing Michael Pennix in the priests.

923
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that this is a thing. I'm just

924
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: saying it's something to keep an eye on. And I

925
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: don't think that we can look at it through the

926
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Speaker 2: framing of well, the reason that they would stick with

927
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Speaker 2: him is because they paid him. I think they already

928
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 2: showed you that they do not give a shit about

929
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Speaker 2: the money because of the decision that they made shortly thereafter.

930
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Speaker 1: Right and they and people will say dead cap, Look,

931
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: they ate the Matt Ryan. Dead cap is not gonna

932
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Speaker 1: be worse than that. And what's crazy is the teams

933
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 1: that had the most dead cap last year, the Bucks

934
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Speaker 1: all made the playoffs.

935
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Speaker 2: The Bucks and the Rams, Raheem Morris and the Packers.

936
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Speaker 2: And the Packers Raheem Morris was a coach on the

937
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: Rams team that had like eighty million dollars in dead cap.

938
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying this is gonna happen. I'm just saying

939
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Speaker 2: it's something to keep an eye on because if you

940
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: decide you're ready for the guy, the next guy, the

941
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Speaker 2: younger player, and let's say, and I think all of

942
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 2: us would really love a fun year from Kirk, especially

943
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 2: with that offense. I think all of us would love that. However,

944
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 2: if it doesn't happen the way that they envisioned, and

945
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: he also is not maybe as happy as he thought

946
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Speaker 2: he would be. I'm just saying it's like, I just

947
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: don't think the money would be something that would be

948
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 2: that would factor under their decision making, because they already

949
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 2: showed you they don't care about the money.

950
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Speaker 1: I think it's a mid October conversation, but it's one

951
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: of them. We got to do a show on possible

952
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: trade candidates during the season, but those are We're just

953
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: a couple names. And yes see if anyone else, you know,

954
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: gets gets spun off, I could see, uh, you know,

955
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: the Cowboys picking up like a running back somewhere. Could

956
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: they get like Jeff Wilson from the Dolphins.

957
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 2: I like that. We also talked about Miles Sanders. Yeah.

958
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: Would would they ever give up something for AJ Dillon?

959
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: The Packers? I think they're actually I think the Packers

960
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: want AJ Dillon, Robert Woods or Noah Brown. Maybe one

961
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: of them shake loose from the Texans. Steelers could be

962
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Speaker 1: a team that goes for them. I had a weird

963
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Speaker 1: Quinton Johnston for Tyree Wilson first round picks not going

964
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Speaker 1: so well, just trade since Telesco drafted Johnston. I don't

965
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Speaker 1: I think the Raiders would do that. Tyree Wilson, I

966
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Speaker 1: think is a name to watch over the next week

967
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: of just getting dumped for like a conditional seventh, which

968
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: is just tough.

969
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 2: It's gonna drive Raiders fans absolutely insane watching Tom Telesco

970
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 2: make any decision that isn't related to fix seeing their

971
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 2: quarterback situation. I mean, again, we talk about if you

972
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 2: don't know who are you got to try to improve

973
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Speaker 2: the rest of the day. If you're well, I'm not

974
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Speaker 2: saying he's not gonna try. I mean, come on, Greg, Yeah,

975
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Speaker 2: you're being pedantic here, Like.

976
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Speaker 1: Banana's one of those words they never really know exactly

977
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Speaker 1: what it means. But it's not good.

978
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: You don't You don't need to know what it means

979
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Speaker 2: if you live it. So let's live your truth. That's fine.

980
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: So the if you don't know what team or what

981
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 2: quarterback you're gonna have, or if you have questions about

982
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: quarterback in twenty twenty five, if you can't look at

983
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: your guy right now and say you are my quarterback

984
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, again, the Raiders should be on

985
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 2: the phone with freaking everybody at this point. They should

986
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 2: be on the phone to see if Kirk is movable.

987
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: They should be on the phone to see if DAK

988
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 2: is movable. They should be on the phone. I mean, hell,

989
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 2: call Jacksonville to see if. Yeah, I mean, I know

990
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 2: that's crazy. That's crazy. We're gonna we're gonna pull that

991
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 2: back out of the out of either. Now.

992
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Speaker 1: That was fun. I like, I like throwing these little

993
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 1: names out there because if we just get one nibble,

994
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: we get one right over the next week, I'll just

995
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: remind everyone of it. This was fun is the point

996
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: of the exercise, totally. It's gonna be fun over the

997
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: next week, and it's gonna be fun this week on

998
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 1: NFL Daily, we have Patrick Claybahn and Colleen Wolf coming

999
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: into the studio for our next show. We're gonna talk

1000
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: about things we're unreasonably high on. Why Colleen came up

1001
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: with that topic? Don't you connect that until then? For

1002
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: Jordan Rodrigue of The Athletic, Yeah, get some deodor rant,

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Speaker 1: so let's see you next time.