Speaker 1: Check it down, man. The numbers told the story always.
Speaker 1: It's along those idiots who believe in the analytics.
Speaker 2: This is a numbers game with Gil Alexander, Gone vs.
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Speaker 3: Gil Alexander, Kelly Midland live from CIRCA. What is hatten
Speaker 3: it that much? Man?
Speaker 1: You got a few bucks ick tomorrow?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Man, I don't usually start guessing lines with a tweet,
Speaker 3: but this is an existential question from just to Follow Vison,
Speaker 3: who says I'm not trying to get too philosophical, but
Speaker 3: can you answer one question throughout guessing lines for me today?
Speaker 3: What is anything a good question?
Speaker 1: Yeah? That feels pretty appropriate.
Speaker 3: This is week two. We're about to do guessing lines again.
Speaker 3: Interactive game. You can play along, do your own guesses
Speaker 3: and try to extract value in the numbers four Week
Speaker 3: three in the National Football League. It's usually an extra
Speaker 3: size that worked spectacularly well. It did not for me
Speaker 3: last week, But I said all week Kelly, what did
Speaker 3: I say? I'm like I hate that I like all
Speaker 3: these favorites, and I kept saying it, and I kept
Speaker 3: saying it, and I couldn't help myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you you busted out the stats last week too,
Speaker 1: what we two's looks like with favorites and everything. I
Speaker 1: was right there with you, buddy, right there with you.
Speaker 1: And it got bloody, That's.
Speaker 3: For sure it did. But a couple things are true,
Speaker 3: one of which is we're still alive in Survivor.
Speaker 1: Danil one thing worked out, hit.
Speaker 3: It no, no, yeah, Okay, here's the deal. You have
Speaker 3: the Texans as well. Yep, I had the Texans and
Speaker 3: both of my entries and survivors. Let's just start there
Speaker 3: before we get into week three. If you recall fourteen thousand,
Speaker 3: two hundred and sixty six entries in Circus Survivor one
Speaker 3: thousand dollars and pop, that means fourteen million, two hundred
Speaker 3: and sixty six thousand. I'll do the math for you.
Speaker 3: In the first week. You may recall Kelly that fifty
Speaker 3: five hundred and sixty four were eliminated, or thirty nine
Speaker 3: percent of the entire shebang thirty nine percent on the
Speaker 3: button yesterday with nine thousand, eight hundred and four entries left.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, nine thousand, six hundred and four entries left,
Speaker 3: four thousand and forty more toast tata. It's not an
Speaker 3: exact Spanish translation, but you go to me, toast is gone.
Speaker 3: That's so if you do it in terms of what was, So,
Speaker 3: if you do it percentage wise on what was remaining
Speaker 3: heading into week two, that's forty six point four to
Speaker 3: three percent of remaining entries were knocked out yesterday. If
Speaker 3: you want to do it for the entire year, out
Speaker 3: of the fourteen thousand, two hundred and sixty six, sixty
Speaker 3: seven point three to two percent are gone. I'll do
Speaker 3: the math again. That's two thirds gone. And we're not
Speaker 3: done with week two because the Eagles. A lot of
Speaker 3: folks are on the Eagles tonight, so it could be
Speaker 3: more but two thirds gone. We haven't even played two
Speaker 3: weeks of football, right, Think about that?
Speaker 1: Where were we at like last year?
Speaker 3: So glad you asked. We did not plan that that way.
Speaker 3: We did not last year. After this is, after two weeks,
Speaker 3: thirty five point nine to nine percent had been eliminated.
Speaker 3: Remember sixty seven point three two percent this year. Last
Speaker 3: year only thirty five point nine to nine percent. However,
Speaker 3: now ask about two years.
Speaker 1: Ago, two years ago, how was it two years ago?
Speaker 1: I mean, the past two years feel like they've been rough.
Speaker 3: Thanks for asking. Well, last year wasn't that rough after
Speaker 3: two weeks as as you know by comparison, But two
Speaker 3: years ago, seventy four point seven three percent had been
Speaker 3: eliminated after two weeks. Remember that was the one that
Speaker 3: was I want to say, six thousand, one hundred and
Speaker 3: thirty three. It was over six thousand going on with
Speaker 3: the exact number. And then last year was nine two
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty seven when it was only thirty five
Speaker 3: point nine nine percent after two weeks. But as far
Speaker 3: as this this year, again, fifty five sixty four eliminated
Speaker 3: week one, four thousand and forty so far in week
Speaker 3: two and we are down to one third of remaining entries.
Speaker 3: So the Texans get it done for us, Thank god.
Speaker 3: It's the only thing it did right besides the commander's
Speaker 3: getting lucky in winning a yeah. Yeah, By the way,
Speaker 3: intrinsic value of each is it too early to talk
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 1: Now because CIRCA keeps doing it now right like you've
Speaker 1: posted it all like every.
Speaker 3: Oh they do it too. Yeah, three thousand and sixty
Speaker 3: dollars and six cents of the remaining.
Speaker 1: Entries, I'll made two thousand dollars then. Obviously that's how
Speaker 1: it works on.
Speaker 3: The paper you have.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's correct.
Speaker 3: Let's just go through it. Let's we'll start with Thursday again.
Speaker 3: This is how this works. I don't know the lines.
Speaker 3: We'll go briefly through the games, and I mean briefly
Speaker 3: today with recaps. Because here's the thing about why we
Speaker 3: do the recaps. We do want to like focus on
Speaker 3: like coaching blunders, and there was there was there were
Speaker 3: coaching blunders yesterday, and we want to focus on key
Speaker 3: points of the game. But usually the reason that we
Speaker 3: do recaps is because it was the old La Times
Speaker 3: reporter was named Red Smith I believe was his name.
Speaker 3: It was before my time also, but he used to
Speaker 3: say that people read the Monday morning paper right because
Speaker 3: they want to relive the games on Sunday. I'm not
Speaker 3: sure there was any games to relive yesterday. They were
Speaker 3: kind of kind of what's the word I'm looking for, sucky.
Speaker 4: Oh, they're gonna be they're gonna be painful to live.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't mean that, I just mean just from
Speaker 3: also an interest standpoint, there wasn't much. But let's start
Speaker 3: with Thursday night.
Speaker 1: What do we got? Okay, first with fiery Boys, here
Speaker 1: we go. There we go week two that after here
Speaker 1: we go it Thursday night football. We start with the
Speaker 1: Patriots at the Genus.
Speaker 3: Do you think i'll have a learned that there's a
Speaker 3: open for guessing line?
Speaker 1: It's okay, yo, all right?
Speaker 3: How many years has been? Fourteen?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: What did you say? Patriots at the Jets ooh AFC
Speaker 3: East clash between two one and one teams. The Patriots
Speaker 3: lose yesterday they do so to the Seattle Seahawks. We'll
Speaker 3: pick it up after the half. It's seventeen to thirteen
Speaker 3: Seattle in this one. A few sort of three it
Speaker 3: ounts or at least Seattle on downs. New England thre
Speaker 3: announced Seattle three and own in New englandre announce Sattle three.
Speaker 3: Now was that kind of game? Then? New England finally
Speaker 3: goes eleven play sixty six yards and six minutes and
Speaker 3: twenty seconds Remandra in from one and the Patriots take
Speaker 3: the lead by three, twenty to seventeen twelve forty three
Speaker 3: left in this one, at least in regulation Seattle punted.
Speaker 3: Then New England gets the ball back Sly forty eight
Speaker 3: yard field goal attempt to go up six blocked by
Speaker 3: Julian Love. Remember that that's the key play right there.
Speaker 3: Then Seattle does get a Meyers thirty eight yard field
Speaker 3: goal to tie it up at twenty apiece. With forty
Speaker 3: nine seconds left, New England three and out. We're going overtime.
Speaker 3: New England gets the ball first and overtime they win
Speaker 3: the toss they get, they go to three and out again.
Speaker 3: Seattle eight play seventy one yards Meyers thirty one yardfield goal.
Speaker 3: Ball game. Seattle wins at twenty three to twenty easy peasy,
Speaker 3: not exactly, but that's how New England falls to one
Speaker 3: and one.
Speaker 4: Now they're feisty. New England outing though.
Speaker 3: They are feisty. The Jets go to one and one.
Speaker 3: They win. They beat Tennessee. We'll pick this one up
Speaker 3: in a seven and zhering Tennessee game. Because Ridley had
Speaker 3: gotten the early touchdown from ten out. Tennessee ten plays
Speaker 3: seventy two yards, it took six to eleven, third and
Speaker 3: goal to six. They're on their way to increasing that lead.
Speaker 3: In Billy Levi's ill advised Billy Levi's fumbles recovered by
Speaker 3: and Williams eight forty left in the second quarter. Remember
Speaker 3: that that's huge. So many fumbles, it seems this year.
Speaker 3: There's so many themes this year. One is way too
Speaker 3: many flags.
Speaker 4: Two the offensive alignment stuff.
Speaker 3: How many fumbles on the way into the end zone
Speaker 3: or at least within the five or six.
Speaker 1: Yard line feels like three or four already.
Speaker 3: Now, oh, at least Jets go three and out. They
Speaker 3: don't do anything with that. And then Levi's first play lepis,
Speaker 3: I know, I get it, but it's Billy Levi.
Speaker 1: Billy Levi's picked deep by Ekle, so ill advised Billy
Speaker 1: Levi's again.
Speaker 3: The Jets then go twelve play seventy three yards Rogers
Speaker 3: to Braylan Allen, youngest player in the NFL. From twelve out,
Speaker 3: we are tied at seven. The uh the Titans would
Speaker 3: ad a field goal before the half. Ten to seven Titans.
Speaker 3: Second half, third quarter, third and fifteen at their own
Speaker 3: twenty five. Titans up three Rogers in complete to Williams,
Speaker 3: and so that's a drive killer, but roughing the passer
Speaker 3: on Simmons then breeze for thirty Two plays later, Rogers
Speaker 3: to Breeze, who catches it over the linebacker from twenty
Speaker 3: six out fourteen to ten and Jets. Early third quarter later,
Speaker 3: the Jets would block a Ryan's Stonehouse punt. That's two
Speaker 3: weeks in a row now. Ryan Stonehouse has had a
Speaker 3: punt block for the Titans on a three and out
Speaker 3: and that led to a zerline field goal seventeen to ten.
Speaker 3: Jets a little more than halfway through the third quarter.
Speaker 3: Then five play seventy one yards, Levis to Ridley for forty.
Speaker 3: We are tied at seventeen. They trade punts a couple times,
Speaker 3: and then the Jets have a drive. Seven play seventy
Speaker 3: four yards Braylin all and once again in from twenty
Speaker 3: and the Jets are up seven with four to thirty
Speaker 3: one left. Final sequence Tennessee matriculates. They get it to
Speaker 3: first and goal at the ten. Kelly first a goal
Speaker 3: at the ten. They're on the doorstep of Titan two
Speaker 3: yards incomplete, sacked, incomplete ballgame, Yeah yeah, Jets win. So
Speaker 3: Patriots and Jets.
Speaker 4: This is a game real quick.
Speaker 1: By the way, I like, during the middle of it,
Speaker 1: I'm like I feel like going into it, I was
Speaker 1: like I don't really know how much I'm gonna learn
Speaker 1: about either one of these teams in this game, And
Speaker 1: then watching it, I'm like, I don't really know how
Speaker 1: much I'm learning about either of these teams during this game.
Speaker 1: You know, because Uls have put twenty seven games in
Speaker 1: the early window. Okay, watch some of these.
Speaker 3: That was the biggest blunder, and Scott Hansen kept trying
Speaker 3: to say, oh, it's just the most active window we'll
Speaker 3: ever have, which translated to the viewer is, oh, this
Speaker 3: is the suckiest, most horrible window will ever have you
Speaker 3: barely saw? Well, it's ten, and then three and then three.
Speaker 3: There's inevitably one or two that you're not I mean,
Speaker 3: the Cardinals and Rams became moved real quick.
Speaker 1: Soluse all the commercial breaks line up.
Speaker 3: And by the way, it's not three. One is at
Speaker 3: four oh five, right, and the other two or four
Speaker 3: twenty five. It's just it's just I don't know why
Speaker 3: they do that. I don't know why they think that's
Speaker 3: ever a good idea.
Speaker 1: And then it's like wildly different this week, right, it's
Speaker 1: what like, this week's schedule is great, great job this week.
Speaker 3: Why couldn't you know this is the two Monday night.
Speaker 1: Two Monday nights here we got like five late window games.
Speaker 3: What was the game?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Patriots at the Jets.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, but your comment there at the beginning,
Speaker 3: to me is these the real topic sentencewitch is the
Speaker 3: feisty New England Patriots. I say, Jets minus four and
Speaker 3: a half.
Speaker 1: You get, you can get out your money to back them,
Speaker 1: because it is six and a half right now at DraftKings.
Speaker 3: That's too much. Six and a half everywhere, that's too high.
Speaker 3: Anything about the Jets makes you think they can roll
Speaker 3: the Patriots.
Speaker 1: I am with you. The only way I guess at
Speaker 1: this point, right now in the season that I'd be
Speaker 1: looking at this as Patriots split with the points, I
Speaker 1: would not be laying six and a half with the Jets.
Speaker 1: They're just at the point I think they got to
Speaker 1: show it first, right Like, I don't think I've seen it.
Speaker 3: Well, me and you were expecting at least before the season.
Speaker 3: Well one has been my line. My line has been
Speaker 3: based on, you know, their quarterback play from last year
Speaker 3: that if they got was the exact quote I always use,
Speaker 3: if they got any modicum of play, Yeah, from Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: They should be good.
Speaker 3: You know what they're getting so far, A modicum.
Speaker 1: Right, exactly, that's what they're getting.
Speaker 3: No more, no less, look, a modicum.
Speaker 1: I've seen that. I also feel like the no I
Speaker 1: think you're right, and I feel like the defense could
Speaker 1: be a little better. It feels like Britis Hall could
Speaker 1: like they haven't seen those big, massive Breeze Hall games
Speaker 1: yet that we were kind of expecting.
Speaker 3: Well, the Ridley touchdown, the catch, not the run. The
Speaker 3: catch sauce just kind of figured it was going to
Speaker 3: be incomplete, and Ridley makes this unbelievable to catch on
Speaker 3: it as well. That's another team, by the way, we'll
Speaker 3: get to Tennessee. But I have no idea what to
Speaker 3: make of them until will Levis could actually be consistent
Speaker 3: from one drive to the next.
Speaker 1: Can't keep doing your thing, Billy. I think my favorite
Speaker 1: bet that futures bet that I have SILS for him
Speaker 1: to lead the league in interceptions. Feels like that's going
Speaker 1: to be live before.
Speaker 3: You feel about your Anthony Richardson not great, Bob, Why Bob, Sorry, sorry,
Speaker 3: I don't know what's happening.
Speaker 1: Oh man, he looked rough. I can't wait to get
Speaker 1: to that game, all.
Speaker 3: Right, so I like some Patriots right on Thursday night,
Speaker 3: right off the bat, We'll do Sunday, not a ten
Speaker 3: to three early window lay window day. I hope on
Speaker 3: Sunday you're already telling me it's not. We'll get to
Speaker 3: those guessing lines. Week three in the National Football League,
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Speaker 3: the Steelers, Vikings, Chargers, and Bucks starting undefeated while the Niners, Lions,
Speaker 3: and Ravens lose early. One word for the NFL plink
Speaker 3: Oh well, that's not exactly what I mean by plinko,
Speaker 3: but it's how plink o we By the way, was
Speaker 3: that Sunday night game? Oh my god, we'll get to that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's what I had to say too. Really couldn't win
Speaker 3: my more six Texans, Philip Morris. First time in a
Speaker 3: while since I've listened live, I'm in a fifty thousand
Speaker 3: dollars survivor pool on DraftKings with Vikings and Chargers. You
Speaker 3: so far. I like my chances in my first year
Speaker 3: of doing one. That's Philip Moore.
Speaker 1: How many remain?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: He's very tweet us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very confident Las Vegas five to one, four. We'll
Speaker 3: get to the Skins. But he says, yo, can we
Speaker 3: put Austin Sieberd up there with Mark Mosley? Maybe for
Speaker 3: one day? Lol? I thank him, but we need touchdowns
Speaker 3: instead of field goals. Sheesh, you're not kidding. Tom Ft
Speaker 3: for the three I took down my he took down
Speaker 3: his local twenty entry survivor pool with the Texans last night.
Speaker 3: Never seen anything like it. Wait, go Tea for three
Speaker 3: year a winner. By the way, that's not You are
Speaker 3: not the only person who has told me they won
Speaker 3: their survivor within two weeks.
Speaker 1: That's great, that's right.
Speaker 3: We'll get some board of these coming up. There's a
Speaker 3: whole bunch one more. Ryan chajeered, sma, I'm in a
Speaker 3: survivor pool with sixty five entries in a buyback option
Speaker 3: if you lose in the first three weeks. Twenty two
Speaker 3: lost in week one, they bought back, and they all
Speaker 3: lost in week two again. Oh no, thankfully, I'm not
Speaker 3: one of them.
Speaker 1: Wait how many how many of the league did he?
Speaker 3: He said, sixty five total, But twenty two lost, they
Speaker 3: all bought back in and they all lost again.
Speaker 1: Man, that's brutal.
Speaker 3: He says. Week three doesn't look easy either. We'll get
Speaker 3: to all of it, all right, Week three?
Speaker 1: What else? All right? Sunday they early slate Giants at
Speaker 1: the Browns.
Speaker 3: All right, this is one of these games Giants at
Speaker 3: Washington that does not need a lot other than the
Speaker 3: fact that the only thing that mattered in this game
Speaker 3: was that Graham Goodo pulled his hamstring. Yes, and so
Speaker 3: while Washington could not get the ball in the end
Speaker 3: zone and Austin Siebert is it Cyber or Siebert the
Speaker 3: old Texas product was he went seven for seven. Remember
Speaker 3: kde York was kicking for the Skins last week. He
Speaker 3: missed two times. So they bring in Siebert and he
Speaker 3: goes seven for seven twenty even. Here's the problem with Washington.
Speaker 3: Not only are they not good at football, they're also
Speaker 3: exceedingly boring. They're a really boring football team. Even the
Speaker 3: field goals were boring. Twenty seven, forty five, twenty six,
Speaker 3: twenty seven, twenty nine, thirty three and thirty they needed
Speaker 3: them all and the reason they the malls because when
Speaker 3: they went up three to nothing and the Giants scored
Speaker 3: singletary in from seven, their punter Jamie Gillen tried the
Speaker 3: pat the extra point was no good, so the Giants
Speaker 3: were only up six to three late in the first quarter.
Speaker 3: And then when Washington was up nine to six, Neighbors
Speaker 3: who had a great game by the way, Malik Nighbors
Speaker 3: saw he had a catch for thirteen and twenty one
Speaker 3: on the drive. Then he scored from four out. Then
Speaker 3: at this point the Giants were like, we're only going
Speaker 3: for two, and they kept failing, so they failed. They
Speaker 3: only are up twelve to nine. Then Washington goes up
Speaker 3: eighteen to fifteen. Again all field goals for Washington. Then
Speaker 3: the Giants have a thirteen play seventy yard drive Jones
Speaker 3: to Robinson from seven out. They go for two again,
Speaker 3: fail again. Then it's eighteen eighteen and then the last
Speaker 3: sequence of the game, Giants fourth and fourth, the Washington
Speaker 3: twenty two Jones incomplete to Neighbors on the sideline and
Speaker 3: with two zero four left, Jayden Daniels does this thing
Speaker 3: where they matriculate the ball down the field. Skins don't
Speaker 3: have any problem matriculating the ball down the field. It's
Speaker 3: once they get once they get to the you know,
Speaker 3: the red zone, where they're like, oh my.
Speaker 1: God, do now how do we do this football thing?
Speaker 3: And then Sebert hits the thirty yarder and the Skins
Speaker 3: win twenty one to eighteen, and in a game they
Speaker 3: had no business winning. Quite frankly, if the Giants had
Speaker 3: had a kicker, probably they're at oh so, but we're
Speaker 3: talking about the Giants now. The Giants are at Cleveland.
Speaker 3: Cleveland ends up beating Jacksonville. We'll pick it up third
Speaker 3: quarter at sixteen to three, Cleveland little misses a field
Speaker 3: goal forty three yard field goal try for the Jaguars.
Speaker 3: That is an anomaly. No one misses field goals anymore
Speaker 3: in this league. But he missed one from forty three.
Speaker 3: They got the ball back. They went three play seventy
Speaker 3: two yards Lawrence to Brian Thomas Junior, who has certainly
Speaker 3: been fined as a rookie, from sixty six. Two plays
Speaker 3: later at the n n from four sixteen to ten Cleveland.
Speaker 3: Late third quarter, Jacksonville will go thirteen plays eighty three yards,
Speaker 3: but they would have to settle for a little twenty
Speaker 3: five yard field goal. How many field goals yesterday in
Speaker 3: this league? So sixteen thirteen Cleveland. Halfway through the fourth
Speaker 3: Cleveland would then have one of these. Remember Pittsburgh had
Speaker 3: a ten play eighteen yard drive yesterday. Well, Cleveland had
Speaker 3: a twelve play twenty nine yard drive that took five
Speaker 3: forty four yesterday. But they end up punting to the
Speaker 3: Jacksonville two. And then the first play Trevor was sacked
Speaker 3: in the end zone by Right. Eighteen to thirteen Cleveland
Speaker 3: with one forty left, they would go three and out
Speaker 3: in seventeen seconds.
Speaker 1: Checks.
Speaker 3: There's so many time management isitials. We'll get to the
Speaker 3: worst one coming up. Jacksonville was able to use their
Speaker 3: two timeouts and then Cleveland through an incomplete pass which
Speaker 3: gave Jacksonville the ball back down five with one twenty
Speaker 3: seven left at their own ten. They got as far
Speaker 3: as the Cleveland thirty three Hail Mary incomplete. Browns win
Speaker 3: eighteen thirteen to shawan twenty two of thirty four for
Speaker 3: one eighty six. So, by the way, this is a
Speaker 3: game thirteen penalties for one hundred yards for the Browns.
Speaker 1: Yea, that was not even even catch that. Wow, this
Speaker 1: is this is one of those games I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to completely rewatch because I feel like I saw a
Speaker 1: five second that's right.
Speaker 3: But it was one of those games where Jacksonville couldn't
Speaker 3: really do much and then at the end it's like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: then no, no, it does It never works out.
Speaker 4: I am very glad.
Speaker 1: I am done believing in the long term future of
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars because it's a frustrating team. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of talent and they just can't. It feels like
Speaker 1: this is week after week this type of stuff.
Speaker 3: Is there a lot of talent? Like I don't know.
Speaker 1: Good quote at good Point, I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas good.
Speaker 3: We'll get to Jacksonville. This is the Giants at Cleveland.
Speaker 3: It's Cleveland minus seven, right, because the Giants are terrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's six and a half seven, six and a
Speaker 1: half most places. I think it opened most places seven.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to scan right now. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it opened most places seven, but has come down a
Speaker 1: little bit. We're at six and a half pretty much
Speaker 1: everywhere seven atge DraftKings currently though, Right, all right, let's
Speaker 1: do one more packers at Titan's early window.
Speaker 3: Oh it's a Malik Willis revenge spot. That's right, Tennessee,
Speaker 3: we already talked about. Levis ended up nineteen of twenty
Speaker 3: eight for one ninety two and that loss of the
Speaker 3: Jets one touchdown, one pick you sacked four times, four
Speaker 3: carries for thirty eight yards. He did lose that fumble.
Speaker 3: The Titans held the Jets still only two hundred and
Speaker 3: sixty five totally yards, but they were minus two interurnars.
Speaker 3: Green Bay wins. They get it done.
Speaker 1: The what's that they? Oh?
Speaker 3: Yes, against your Colts, Your Anthony Richardson led Colts three
Speaker 3: to nothing Packers than after an indian Indianapolis three and
Speaker 3: out and eleven play, eighty two yard drive for green Bay,
Speaker 3: Malik Willis to D'antavian Wicks for fourteen touchdown that was
Speaker 3: set up by a twelve yard Milik Willis run ten
Speaker 3: to nothing Green Bay Malik Willis doing his thang.
Speaker 1: The Colts coaching staff gil somehow caught completely off guard
Speaker 1: by Jordan Love being out of the game and the
Speaker 1: Packers deciding to.
Speaker 4: Run the ball.
Speaker 3: Then your guy Richardson, your MVP was picked by Xavier McKinney.
Speaker 3: Green Bay drives again first gold the Indianapolis four. What
Speaker 3: do you know a fumble inside the five yard line, Yeah,
Speaker 3: Jacob's hit by Franklin, Sarah Franklin fumbles were covered by
Speaker 3: Latsu twelve oh six left in the second quarter, and
Speaker 3: that the Colts have life, but they don't do anything
Speaker 3: before that half.
Speaker 1: It's still tend to could be, should have been so
Speaker 1: much worse than ten to nothing at the half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a third quarter Indianapolis turnover on downs, terrible throw
Speaker 3: by your guy ar On fourth and four to Taylor
Speaker 3: down at the tailor from from their own forty six
Speaker 3: that results in a field goal. Anyway, they trade field
Speaker 3: goal was thirteen to three. Gay misses. Matt Gay misses
Speaker 3: a fifty yard field goal early fourth quarter that tried
Speaker 3: to cut into the thirteen to three deficit. He missed it.
Speaker 3: Rare miss in the NFL. Then Indianapolis matriculated, here was
Speaker 3: your one shining moment for your guy, Anthony Richardson fourth
Speaker 3: and eleven at the green Bay fifteen. You're down ten
Speaker 3: after a false start out of a time out. That
Speaker 3: was beautiful to put him in the fourth and eleven situation,
Speaker 3: and he runs for eleven. Next play, Richardson appears from
Speaker 3: four out, sixteen to ten, green Bay one forty seven
Speaker 3: to go. And then because they're down six and it's
Speaker 3: less than two minutes and their timeouts are scarce here,
Speaker 3: I don't even know if they had any left. I
Speaker 3: think they had one left at this point. The Colts
Speaker 3: had to declare the onside kick. And I do believe,
Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen, that when you declare the onside kick
Speaker 3: in the NFL, you actually have to use the phrase.
Speaker 3: Uh I do declare, I do declare, I want to
Speaker 3: do the onside kick, and that's what they did. It failed,
Speaker 3: of course. Green Bay, though went three and out. Colts
Speaker 3: spend the rest of their time outs. Pardon me, they
Speaker 3: had more than one time. I think they had two left,
Speaker 3: and then Anthony Gould calls a fair catch the five
Speaker 3: on the ensuing punch.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Remember when there used to be a cardinal sin.
Speaker 1: Well, if you hit.
Speaker 3: The ten, if you're not planned at the ten, you're
Speaker 3: gonna do something dumb like call a fair catch at
Speaker 3: the five. So that didn't do the Colts any favors.
Speaker 3: They gotta go ninety five yards and forty two seconds
Speaker 3: doing he gets to their own forty one. The announcers
Speaker 3: cannot stop raving about Anthony Richardson's cannon arm. He doesn't
Speaker 3: get close to the end zone.
Speaker 1: Pick was great. They're like, oh, this is gonna be amazing.
Speaker 1: You know, you've called a boring game. When you're like, okay, guys,
Speaker 1: get we're setting up for it, Hailbarry, We're gonna see
Speaker 1: how far he can throw this thing. And then yeah,
Speaker 1: it came up like ten yards short of the In.
Speaker 3: God, any ball game, Packers beat the Colts. I split
Speaker 3: the difference between the zero and the three on Tennessee.
Speaker 3: Somehow I made Tennessee a one and a half point
Speaker 3: fairy because it still is Malik Willis. But like, I
Speaker 3: have no idea what it could.
Speaker 1: Be anywhere one and a half to two and a half.
Speaker 1: I bet I bet the Titans money line a little
Speaker 1: bit yesterday on this opener. I just don't know, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Richardson was not great, but like, well, the shot from
Speaker 1: the Colts coaching staff that the Packers were gonna run
Speaker 1: the ball that many times seemed to seemed to have
Speaker 1: the Colts on their heels the entire first half. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hope the Titans have a better game plan
Speaker 1: going against the leak Willis. And uh yeah, I played
Speaker 1: the money.
Speaker 3: Line the one and one Packers at the oh and
Speaker 3: two Titans. That's a pretty brutal oh and two for
Speaker 3: the Titans. Yes a game they lose to the Bears,
Speaker 3: they had no business losing, and they had every opportunity
Speaker 3: to beat the uh to beat the Jets yesterday, just
Speaker 3: couldn't do it. All right, No, no bet there for
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Speaker 3: Oh, so many tweets, best listeners in the game, I
Speaker 3: beating the book always appreciated. We'll get to them on
Speaker 3: next seven because we've got games to get through. Can
Speaker 3: I read just one though? From Joe Peter or Joe Pete,
Speaker 3: who was the megapod guest on Thursday, and by the way,
Speaker 3: fantastic guest. And how have I not had him on
Speaker 3: the megapod before this past three Really? What an oversight
Speaker 3: by me. He's been on the podcast a million times
Speaker 3: to talk baseball and golf, and I want to say
Speaker 3: even maybe not football ever, maybe that was the first
Speaker 3: football on Wow. Anyway, Joe tweets and he goes regarding
Speaker 3: the He says, regarding the first two weeks of Survivor,
Speaker 3: I think this is actually pretty interesting. Regarding the first
Speaker 3: two weeks of Survivor, carnage three years in a row.
Speaker 3: Now didn't happen the prior three years. What changed last
Speaker 3: three years? Has a seventeen game schedule in only three
Speaker 3: preseason games, which many blow off, have these first two
Speaker 3: weeks become glorified exhibitions. Yes, I think you answered your
Speaker 3: own question, Joe. That's exactly what I believe it is.
Speaker 3: I believe I've said this before. Going from four preseason
Speaker 3: games to three, Hey, it's only one game fewer, right,
Speaker 3: shouldn't be that big of a deal. But it's the
Speaker 3: way that every team decided to handle it that has
Speaker 3: created this chaos, because when you had four, you're like, Okay,
Speaker 3: we're gonna play your starters for this amount in game one.
Speaker 3: We're gonna play for this amount of Game two. Then
Speaker 3: we're gonna go, well at least a half in game three,
Speaker 3: and then game four, we're not playing anybody. And every
Speaker 3: team used to play it that way, and there was
Speaker 3: a rhythm to it, and it just seemed to work
Speaker 3: so that teams were by and large ready for week
Speaker 3: one of the NFL season. Now that they've gone to three,
Speaker 3: you have teams that play starters, you have teams that
Speaker 3: play no starters ever. And so yes, I think Joe
Speaker 3: that the survivor carnage, and he answered his own question
Speaker 3: is a direct line from that to this, I just
Speaker 3: think we not only do we know less, but I
Speaker 3: think teams themselves are not prepared to go.
Speaker 1: I mean you and I have talked about this more
Speaker 1: off air, actually, I think than on air. Maybe it
Speaker 1: is I don't care about the number of games. I
Speaker 1: actually like what the NFL did cutting it back to three,
Speaker 1: but I.
Speaker 3: Think I like less preseason two. That doesn't change the
Speaker 3: point though, right, No, no, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But clearly like like kind of their point of doing
Speaker 1: it is like was was, Hey, these teams don't take
Speaker 1: advantage of all these games anyways, let's shave it back,
Speaker 1: and they still don't. They still don't care to take
Speaker 1: advantage of it. I think I think absolutely more than
Speaker 1: there are multiple teams. This supplies to where I think
Speaker 1: I thought each week so far, man, this team looked
Speaker 1: like it needed another preseason gamers.
Speaker 3: Though, though the Week two things tried and true. As
Speaker 3: we discussed last week, cleave Ta was great with his
Speaker 3: numbers on how the over Week two is always over
Speaker 3: reaction week, no matter the year. Yeah, yes, and I
Speaker 3: knew it and I couldn't stop myself.
Speaker 1: What's next either?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Early window bears at Colts. All right, we talked about
Speaker 1: the Colts.
Speaker 3: Your buddy Anthony Richardson seventeen of thirty four for two
Speaker 3: oh four to one touchdown, three picks. He was sacked once.
Speaker 3: Four carries for thirty seven yards. Taylor did have twelve
Speaker 3: for one oh three on the ground Indianapolis minus two
Speaker 3: and turnovers in that game. They were out possessed forty
Speaker 3: minutes eleven seconds to nineteen forty nine.
Speaker 4: Just stunning that Green Bay was going to run the ball.
Speaker 4: I thought that might happen.
Speaker 3: You said Chicago to Indianapolis. Is that what you said,
Speaker 3: Chicago to Indianapolis? So, oh, if you missed this game
Speaker 3: last night between the Bears and the Texans, this was
Speaker 3: like plinko every second fair Baron kicks a fifty six
Speaker 3: yard in a start, and then Santo's matches it with
Speaker 3: a fifty three yarder. Nobody off the camera on the crossbar,
Speaker 3: by the way, nobody misses field goals anymore. Indoors, especially
Speaker 3: Houston fourth and one at the fifty. We're early here.
Speaker 3: Stroud is still over for eighteen. They overcome an unsportsmanlike
Speaker 3: on Collins, even though he got poked in the face first.
Speaker 3: Next play, first play, second quarter, straud to Collins for
Speaker 3: twenty eight touchdown. It's ten to three Textans five seconds
Speaker 3: into the second quarter, and we're on our way to
Speaker 3: an easy psy survivor win. Yeah, not so much. After
Speaker 3: Chicago three at Houston, beautiful third and ten, conversion of
Speaker 3: digs for twenty one, then a scrambling pass to Collins
Speaker 3: for eighteen.
Speaker 1: Because C. J.
Speaker 3: Stroud is sick. They settle for a fair baron forty
Speaker 3: seven yard field goal on fourth and a half a yard.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of that too. Andy Reid did
Speaker 3: it later. Also, It's like fourth and inches. We haven't
Speaker 3: gotten the memo on this. You should probably go no,
Speaker 3: you could kick a field goal. Oh you just did
Speaker 3: a kick a fal thirteen to three Houston n frustrating early,
Speaker 3: very frustrated. Thirteen to three Houston, nine to fifty five
Speaker 3: left in the second quarter. The Bears do convert a
Speaker 3: fourth in inches that they quite frankly didn't convert from
Speaker 3: their own thirty nine. But like Mike Terrico just went
Speaker 3: with it. He's like, yeah, they get the first down.
Speaker 3: I'm like no. He didn't like their replay, says he
Speaker 3: didn't even get it, like why aren't we reviewing this?
Speaker 3: So they have to punt anyway? It gets down at
Speaker 3: the end of the second half, down ten thirteen to three,
Speaker 3: Chicago ends up with a double dip chance third nine
Speaker 3: of the Houston twenty five. They call a PI on
Speaker 3: Kaylin Bullock Khalil Herbert eventually in from two eight plays
Speaker 3: forty nine yard drive after that, after that punt thirteen
Speaker 3: to ten Houston. Now late second quarter, Houston ends up
Speaker 3: with a fair baron fifty nine yarder before the half,
Speaker 3: So the Houston Texans win ats first half. They lead
Speaker 3: by six of the half. But remember so they squeeze
Speaker 3: that in in thirty two seconds, by the way, to
Speaker 3: get that field goal from fifty nine, because you don't
Speaker 3: really have to matriculate that much you get fifty nine
Speaker 3: yard field goal. People already saying we should narrow the goalpost.
Speaker 3: These kickers are so good. Third quarter, after Williams missus
Speaker 3: Carter on a three and out, Houston pun after mixing
Speaker 3: gets hip dropped. No one's calling hip drop tackles. By
Speaker 3: the way, Yeah, PI on Houston on an uncatchable pass.
Speaker 3: Then on the next drive for Chicago, there's like a
Speaker 3: whole bunch of stuff. The hip drop isn't getting called.
Speaker 3: Some games are calling an uncatchable pass. Some games are
Speaker 3: not calling uncatchable anyway. What is the score here? Still
Speaker 3: sixteen to ten in this ball game? Eventually Caleb gets
Speaker 3: picked by Derek Stingley Junior. Houston adds a fifty three
Speaker 3: yard field goal from fairbairon nineteen to ten early fourth quarter.
Speaker 3: Then Chicago Caleb avoids a sacked by Daniel Hunter, but
Speaker 3: it gets picked by Kamari Lassiter. So you're like, okay,
Speaker 3: Texans keep dolling dodging bullets. Here, We're up nine, we're
Speaker 3: in cover position, we're in safe survivor position. And then
Speaker 3: uh boy, even after a Marry Edwards sack of Caleb,
Speaker 3: Houston matriculates first and goal at the four. Kelly up nine,
Speaker 3: Really just put this away? What do you think happens
Speaker 3: inside the five yard line? Akers gets hit by Billings,
Speaker 3: he fumbles, recovered by Bayer and six twenty eight to go,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, our easy pieces of easy
Speaker 3: pieces of survivor win and cover is out the window.
Speaker 3: Chicago matriculates there's a grounding penalty that puts them out
Speaker 3: of field goal range. So like Houston bedders are like yes,
Speaker 3: and then the next play there's a rough passer. Every
Speaker 3: play was planko in this game. It was ridiculous. Put
Speaker 3: somem right back in there. They get a field goal
Speaker 3: Santos from fifty four because nobody misses nineteen thirteen Houston
Speaker 3: two fifty one to go Houston three and out. And
Speaker 3: and it's stupid. They played this stupidly. They had to
Speaker 3: extend their first They got it with like two forty
Speaker 3: something left, two fifty one left. They had to extend
Speaker 3: that first play long enough, like call a sweep or something,
Speaker 3: so that by the time the playclock rolled for the
Speaker 3: second down play, they could have run it down to
Speaker 3: the two minute warning, but they don't, and so they're
Speaker 3: forced to play the second down play with two zero
Speaker 3: two left anyway, instead of Hughes. Instead of Chicago getting
Speaker 3: the ball back with like twenty three seconds left, Chicago
Speaker 3: ends up getting the ball back with one thirty seven
Speaker 3: left because they played it that way. Also, they had
Speaker 3: an illegal use of the hands penalty that should be
Speaker 3: pointed out as well. So Chicago with the ball one
Speaker 3: thirty seven left down six instead of around twenty three
Speaker 3: seconds left. They get to their own forty seven before
Speaker 3: Caleb is sacked by Daniel Hunter two plays later. Was
Speaker 3: over Houston nineteen thirteen. Think the lawd we get through
Speaker 3: survivor Well, we're not a Houston yet, don't hit it. Chicago,
Speaker 3: Chicago to Indianapolis. I also did the split between the
Speaker 3: zero and the three as in Indianapolis minus one and
Speaker 3: a half.
Speaker 1: Right now, it is only not a lot of books
Speaker 1: have this posted. I'm guessing more because of the slew
Speaker 1: of injuries on the Indie side that they've taken. But
Speaker 1: DraftKings does have it up as one in favor of
Speaker 1: Indianapolis one.
Speaker 3: I'm proud of the one and the halfs because you
Speaker 3: never know what those But my thinking on both the
Speaker 3: Green Bay A Tennessee and the Chicago Indianapolis one and
Speaker 3: a half is do we really know anything about any
Speaker 3: of these teams? Like, I don't think that. I don't
Speaker 3: think the home team is good enough to be a
Speaker 3: three point favorite. So I'm just splitting difference.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. I mean that that's a game.
Speaker 4: I mean, Bear's cool, So that's one I don't want
Speaker 4: any I have.
Speaker 1: No interest in right now. I mean there is you
Speaker 1: do have injuries on both sides, Like, yeah, do you
Speaker 1: think you have a you think you have a good
Speaker 1: grasp with either one of.
Speaker 3: Those teams right now? No, there's so many teams by
Speaker 3: the way that did you notice that thing at the
Speaker 3: end with Houston, Like they could have check made in
Speaker 3: Chicago and they completely watched.
Speaker 1: That's Texans at Vikings.
Speaker 3: Texans that we just talked about. C J Stroud twenty
Speaker 3: three of thirty six for two sixty Collins eight for
Speaker 3: one thirty five in a touchdown. Any interest in Nico
Speaker 3: Collins as an offensive player?
Speaker 1: I got just what happened second half, Like this is
Speaker 1: no idea like the past. Game was flowing early.
Speaker 3: They held Chicago to two hundred and five total yards
Speaker 3: of offense. The Texans did. There were twenty one penalties
Speaker 3: called in that game for one hundred and seventy five yards.
Speaker 3: Houston had twelve of them for one fifteen. Just a
Speaker 3: flag fest. It's impossible to watch. They're at Minnesota. Minnesota
Speaker 3: beats the Niners outright. CJ ham block day, Wishnowski punt
Speaker 3: early set up a record field goal twenty two yards
Speaker 3: out of Minnesota was up three to nothing. San Francisco
Speaker 3: had a fifteen play eighty eight yard drive after that
Speaker 3: that took nine to eighteen off the clock. Fourth in
Speaker 3: gold the two Perty incomplete intended for Jennings, then Minnesota
Speaker 3: from their own three, Donald to Jefferson for ninety seven
Speaker 3: ten to nothing, Minnesota nine thirty five left in the
Speaker 3: second quarter after San Francisco turned it over on downs
Speaker 3: on a failed fourth and two again turnover on downs,
Speaker 3: Darnald picked by Fred Warner. Niners then go sixty five
Speaker 3: yards on five plays Perty to Kindle from seven out
Speaker 3: ten to seven Minnesota. Minnesot would have a field goal
Speaker 3: to make it thirteen to seven at the half, then
Speaker 3: later in the third quarter Perty second to ten at
Speaker 3: their own thirteen the Niners own thirteen pick by Josh
Speaker 3: Mattelis one play Darnald to Nailer from ten out twenty
Speaker 3: to seven. Vikings then Perty third and fifteen at the
Speaker 3: Minnesota forty five picked off a deflection by ward rule
Speaker 3: to fumble. Minnesota takes over at midfield. Four plays in
Speaker 3: second and fourth of San Francisco twenty five Chandler for
Speaker 3: five yards, but both Justin Jefferson and Nick Bosa helped
Speaker 3: off the field. Gotta check injury reports on them today.
Speaker 3: Next play Darnald of Jones for eighteen on his way
Speaker 3: to the goal line hit by Warner, fumbles recovered by Yattam.
Speaker 3: I believe it's how you pronounce that. How many fumbles
Speaker 3: on the way into the end zone in the first
Speaker 3: two weeks of this season, It's incredible. That's that's the
Speaker 3: closing seconds of the third quarter of San Francisco gets
Speaker 3: a touchdown on a ninety nine yard drive after that
Speaker 3: to close it to twenty to fourteen, but Minnesota countered
Speaker 3: with a field goal to go up nine. Moody then
Speaker 3: cut it to six. They had to declare an onside kick.
Speaker 3: They said, I do declare and it failed. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: say Houston minus two and a half on the road
Speaker 3: at Minnesota less than a field goal.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of books with this one up either.
Speaker 1: Texans three at Draft King Zone all three?
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Speaker 3: Kelly Bitlin guessing lines for Week three in the NFL.
Speaker 3: So far, like New England, the best I think of
Speaker 3: the Bunch, which is a Thursday night game we do
Speaker 3: get tweets at beating the book. I want to get
Speaker 3: some of your feedback here from the best listeners in
Speaker 3: the entire game. And it goes a little something like this,
Speaker 3: tweets like this, Yes, let me just read some here
Speaker 3: right off the old computer screen, shall I do that?
Speaker 3: This is from Kevin Ryan Gil Not sure who's more
Speaker 3: upset today, survivor players who had the Ravens or Chris
Speaker 3: Collinsworth couldn't stop gushing over Caleb Williams. That's true. Chris
Speaker 3: Collinsworth could not stop. He was like, you know what
Speaker 3: the difference is, Mike. Last week he looked out this
Speaker 3: week he just looks so much.
Speaker 1: More comfortable all night long. All Right, that one was bad.
Speaker 1: I still think you're right though about the Richardson one
Speaker 1: at the end of that game was worse. It was
Speaker 1: like one of the worst football games ever. And it
Speaker 1: was like they're trying to set up that hailberry like it.
Speaker 3: Was well, it wasn't. It wasn't only the announcers. As
Speaker 3: a matter of fact, DJN Southern Gent tweets about this
Speaker 3: because the announcers talking about Anthony Richardson arm On that
Speaker 3: final play had nothing on Scott Hansen's attemptect to connect
Speaker 3: with the boomer demographic of his audience by telling them.
Speaker 1: To quote, fire up your VCRs for this fire. If
Speaker 1: I caught that, ye likes the play record button.
Speaker 3: I believe he said, JJ Watering closes, I'm already tired
Speaker 3: of the Colts in epnes Gus Bradley must go second.
Speaker 3: Ar does have a cannon, but the play when he
Speaker 3: ran for the first down he came up limping appears
Speaker 3: to be a hip issue no one is talking about.
Speaker 3: I expect to see him on the injury report.
Speaker 1: Totally caught that myself. I thought maybe hammy or something
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, keep an eye out for that one.
Speaker 3: Jack Eureka Minshew just a killer in Baltimore. Killed survivor
Speaker 3: Pools last year with that overtime win on Indianapolis as well.
Speaker 3: He says, this is from Brian m guessing the total
Speaker 3: for green Bay, Tennessee has to be mid to low thirties. Right,
Speaker 3: what is the total for green Bay, Tennessee?
Speaker 1: It is I believe thirty eight old thirty seven, oh
Speaker 1: anywhere between thirty six and a.
Speaker 3: Half and thirty seven there close. Bruce do Big and
Speaker 3: Malik Willis underpassing yards. Oh yes, yesterday was put your
Speaker 3: kid through college easy? Put your kid through college easy?
Speaker 3: On Sunday, someone should tell the Colts. Let's see, this
Speaker 3: is from James, so let me save Kelly the trouble.
Speaker 3: Don't rewatch the Browns Jags game unless you need to vomit.
Speaker 3: He says time management and penalties. The game shouldn't have
Speaker 3: been that close, but still came down to a Hail
Speaker 3: Mary somehow. And then New Jersey, New York says GVS
Speaker 3: is how many field goals yesterday in this league? He's
Speaker 3: quoting me because I was out loud. I was ruminating
Speaker 3: how many field goals yesterday in this league? Fun fact,
Speaker 3: the only team in Week two not to convert a
Speaker 3: field goal was the Giants, whose kicker Graham Gano was
Speaker 3: hurt with a hamstring injury, which probably saved certain books
Speaker 3: some money on every team in Week two to kick
Speaker 3: a field goal prop bets, Sure did. Mike Stacks have
Speaker 3: to laugh when I try to pick losers on millions
Speaker 3: to go for the Booby prize and then I somehow
Speaker 3: go four and one and sit at five and five.
Speaker 3: Yeah that'll happened.
Speaker 1: Ye Hey, Mike, just for first our weeks, and that's
Speaker 1: exactly what I did four and one last week, and
Speaker 1: then I'm somehow five and five.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kevin Ryan Gil both the word matriculate and modicum
Speaker 3: cash and the opening monologue on ang The only thing
Speaker 3: left now is a discussion about the dynamic new kickoff rules.
Speaker 3: That's absolutely right, Brian m The fear with Billy Levi's
Speaker 3: leading the league in interceptions is Mason Rudolph sitting on
Speaker 3: the bench. He's not a major threat, but if the
Speaker 3: spiral downward continues, they'll have to make a change. And
Speaker 3: then Tim Thompson, Yeah, I think he's one.
Speaker 1: Of those guys.
Speaker 4: They're gonna give a lot of leash too.
Speaker 1: Though, like I think Levis is good, I think he's
Speaker 1: It did have to, it would have to get really
Speaker 1: bad for Mason.
Speaker 3: RUDOLPHI get in one more here. This is from Tim
Speaker 3: Thompson at for Dog Golfer Daddy says, fascinated by survivor
Speaker 3: curious if you think that the Thanksgiving and Christmas standalone
Speaker 3: weeks actually save some folks through the year who maybe
Speaker 3: avoid landmindes by quote unquote saving a Dallas or Baltimore.
Speaker 3: As an example, yesterday one it absolutely saves people. So yeah,
Speaker 3: for sure, that's a thing. It works both ways. Let's
Speaker 3: go continue on.
Speaker 1: Sunday, all right, still in the early window. Eagles at Saints.
Speaker 3: Eagles play tonight. We will get to the Eagles and
Speaker 3: the Falcons tonight. A J. Brown will be out of
Speaker 3: this game for the Eagles.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: The Saints are the Week two champions. If the title
Speaker 3: was given to the number one team in football after
Speaker 3: two weeks, you kind of have to give it to
Speaker 3: the Saints. After Dallas gets a touch back to the twenty, which,
Speaker 3: by the way, Scott Hansen just lost it on that.
Speaker 3: He's like, oh my god, this is an amazing thing
Speaker 3: what they did to get the touch back to the
Speaker 3: twenty because the ball landed in the in the zone
Speaker 3: and then it went and touched anyway twenty yard line.
Speaker 1: He's just really talking about, right, this is what Peziks
Speaker 1: talked about. So that's what you want the strategy tob Ideally.
Speaker 3: Hanson, you just thought he would have talked about it
Speaker 3: for seven hours. If they could a seven play, eighty
Speaker 3: yard drive for the Saints to start Kamara in from
Speaker 3: five to seven to nothing. Aubrey fifty two yardfield goal again,
Speaker 3: nobody misses field goals. New Orleans one play car to
Speaker 3: Shaheed for seventy fourteen to three New Orleans four h
Speaker 3: five left first quarter, fourteen play forty one yard Dallas drive,
Speaker 3: but it ends in an Aubrey thirty eight yardfield goal
Speaker 3: fourteen to six. You get the idea here, you see
Speaker 3: the pattern. New Orleans four play drive Karta Kamara for
Speaker 3: fifty seven almost all Yak twenty one to six New
Speaker 3: Orleans nine to thirty left of the second quarter, then
Speaker 3: Prescott to Lamb. The one moment for the Cowboys in
Speaker 3: this game was Prescott to Ceedee Lamb for sixty five,
Speaker 3: where Lamb caught it, stopped on a dime, and then
Speaker 3: ducked under two defenders and went to the house. Twenty
Speaker 3: one to thirteen New Orleans. That was your competitive portion
Speaker 3: of the ball game, because then after that New Orleans
Speaker 3: eleven plays seventy yards Kamara in from twelve twenty eight
Speaker 3: thirteen late second quarter, Dallas first intended their own forty
Speaker 3: nine with one h two left in the quarter, Dak
Speaker 3: picked by a Debot forty seven yard return set up
Speaker 3: to the Dallas twenty car to a lobby for nineteen
Speaker 3: then car in from one thirty five to thirteen. Aubrey
Speaker 3: would kick a forty eight yard or by the end
Speaker 3: of the half thirty five to sixteen. New Orleans. At
Speaker 3: the half and then third quarter, Dallas ten plays fifty
Speaker 3: one yards, Aubrey forty yard field goal after Dak was
Speaker 3: hit and fumbled. Tolbert with a great hustle play to
Speaker 3: recover and preserve the field goal, thirty five to nineteen,
Speaker 3: and then New Orleans thirteen plays seventy yards again Kamara
Speaker 3: in from seven forty one to nineteen. Oh the pat
Speaker 3: was blocked. There's one little thing for Dallas anyway. At
Speaker 3: that point, Derek carr Kelly had led scoring drives on
Speaker 3: all fifteen possessions of the season for the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 3: Do we have a couple of New Orleans tweats by
Speaker 3: the way, final score forty four to nineteen. No, go on,
Speaker 3: New Orleans. Just absolutely blast the Cowboys. The Cowboys are
Speaker 3: every bit the bully that they were last year. Someone
Speaker 3: their own size comes in and picks on them, and
Speaker 3: they're just not They're not the same football team. They
Speaker 3: cannot handle prosperity. Dave Ross. The Cowboys cannot handle prosperity. Sorry, Dave,
Speaker 3: you want to make it personal, I say, in New
Speaker 3: Orleans minus two and a half hosting Philadelphia site unseen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is other rung team favors. Really, Eagles two
Speaker 1: two and a half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, buddy, I've seen enough for you. I've seen enough. Yes, indeed,
Speaker 3: that's a teaser like Philly's. Okay, we haven't seen Philly.
Speaker 3: We obviously don't know what's gonna happen tonight. That's interesting.
Speaker 3: So the Eagles still getting the benefit of doubt? Do
Speaker 3: we have the two?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: The Saints ones? The Saints have scored ninety one points
Speaker 3: in the first two weeks of the season. Ninety one points.
Speaker 3: That's near the most ever Kelly in the history of
Speaker 3: the National Football League. In fact, let me give you
Speaker 3: the exact number on this. I'll go to the phone
Speaker 3: to get this because I think, oh, there we go.
Speaker 3: The twenty twenty four Saints ninety one points tied for
Speaker 3: second only the two thousand and nine Saints, who scored
Speaker 3: ninety three. Have had more through the first two games
Speaker 3: of a season since the merger. The two thousand and
Speaker 3: nine Saints with ninety three and the seventy one Cowboys
Speaker 3: with ninety one both won the Super Bowl. Well you
Speaker 3: know what that means?
Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously.
Speaker 3: And then the Derek Carr want did you get this,
Speaker 3: Derek Carr? This is like the Brock Purdy stat from
Speaker 3: last year where through two games quarterback efficiency. This is
Speaker 3: from Kevin Cole quarterback efficiency through Week two EPA per
Speaker 3: play points added here minimum twenty dropbacks. Derek Carr leads
Speaker 3: the league over Josh Allen Kyler, Murray Baker, Mayfield, Sam
Speaker 3: Darnold and everybody else. Oh, look at Jaden Daniels at
Speaker 3: number six.
Speaker 1: Howbout that?
Speaker 3: Anyway, there's your listen, Anthony Richards in sixteenth, Kelly, just
Speaker 3: want to point that out.
Speaker 1: Just behind you, Kobe. But how do you feel about
Speaker 1: this team? Like you're it, you're bought into this team?
Speaker 3: The Saints? Yeah, after yesterday, Yes, obviously after the first
Speaker 3: game against the Panthers. No, but after yesterday. The Cowboys
Speaker 3: are wildly talented.
Speaker 1: Yeah they are, they are.
Speaker 3: They are wildly talented on defense. Now, I will say
Speaker 3: this about the Cowboys. They got no running game.
Speaker 1: By what is with them? In the Bengals by the way,
Speaker 1: being like like we al it was a head scratcher
Speaker 1: in the off season when you're like, so you're just
Speaker 1: gonna like not go with the running back basically, and
Speaker 1: like you've seen it play out these first couple of.
Speaker 3: Weeks and it's yeah, it's that I but yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: kind of I'm kind of bought into Saints. Listen, you
Speaker 3: know who the Okay, we say the Saints are the
Speaker 3: big winner in the NFL after two weeks. Do you
Speaker 3: know who the numbers game winner is after two weeks
Speaker 3: of the season. Aaron from FTN Sports. We most of
Speaker 3: my previews, most of my thirty two previews that we
Speaker 3: did in the off season, I used a lot of
Speaker 3: Aaron shots FTN stuff. He came on this show and
Speaker 3: he said, the Saints are gonna win the division. People
Speaker 3: are off their scent. They just are boring, so no
Speaker 3: one likes them. Well, they haven't been boring so far
Speaker 3: with ninety one points. And the other thing he said
Speaker 3: is New England could win seven games. You know what
Speaker 3: Newing the could win sept Yeah, that's the way they're playing.
Speaker 3: He is, at least through two weeks of the NFL season.
Speaker 3: Aaron Shotts is your is your champion?
Speaker 1: I think the the one for me with the Saints.
Speaker 1: That's it's just still hard for me to get by.
Speaker 1: Is like, well, where was the where were the big changes? Right?
Speaker 1: That makes this team different from what we've seen the
Speaker 1: past couple of years. And I guess it's just all
Speaker 1: in the coaching now.
Speaker 3: Derek Carr looking great, only completed eleven forward passes eleven
Speaker 3: of sixteen for two forty three. Kamara twenty for one
Speaker 3: fifteen and three touchdowns on the ground, two catches for
Speaker 3: sixty five in another touch Shaheed four for ninety six
Speaker 3: and a touchdown. Four hundred and thirty two total yards
Speaker 3: against Dallas. More guessing lines, looking for value. Next, the
Speaker 3: numbers told.
Speaker 1: The story they always do.
Speaker 2: It's one of those idiots will believe in the analytics.
Speaker 2: This is a numbers game with Gil Alexander and con Vison.
Speaker 3: Our number two of a numbers game at Vison d Sports,
Speaker 3: Betty Network, Visa dot Com, Game plus, iHeartRadio YouTube TV.
Speaker 3: How are you taking us in? We appreciate it. It's
Speaker 3: Gil Alexander, it's Kelly Middlin produce a number nine. Oh
Speaker 3: much more than a producer, bouncer, co hosts. I don't
Speaker 3: really have those problems, man about town? What what do you?
Speaker 1: What do you? What'd you say?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: I don't really have those problem?
Speaker 4: We got doors these days.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hopefully, my bouncer. That's true.
Speaker 3: By the way, again, let me just say this about Survivor.
Speaker 3: Circus Survivor for those who missed it started this year
Speaker 3: with fourteen thousand, two hundred and sixty six entries all
Speaker 3: at one thousand dollars to pop. Fifty five to sixty
Speaker 3: four eliminated week one, four thousand and forty eliminated yesterday.
Speaker 3: Eagles have more than seven hundred on them tonight as well,
Speaker 3: so it could be more so in its entirety, not
Speaker 3: even through two weeks of the season. Sixty seven point
Speaker 3: three to two percent of entries eliminated every year now
Speaker 3: in recent years, Joe Pede points out, literally through three
Speaker 3: weeks it's always more than seventy percent, and it will
Speaker 3: be again this year.
Speaker 1: What were the surprises to you, yesterdir on just how
Speaker 1: many how many.
Speaker 4: Entries the team got.
Speaker 3: That's a great question as we show this here, because
Speaker 3: I got a couple of texts.
Speaker 1: I feel like every weekend and I'm surprised by what
Speaker 1: other people are surprised by.
Speaker 3: A lot of times Leaveta. He warned everybody, this is
Speaker 3: not the week to take the Ravens because there were
Speaker 3: more natural spot Not only did they play in Christmas,
Speaker 3: but there were more natural spots to play the Ravens.
Speaker 3: I was surprised that so many people had the onions
Speaker 3: to play the Chargers quite frankly, Okay, I was. I'm
Speaker 3: more surprised to answer your question, actually, Kelly, I'm more
Speaker 3: surprised that seven hundred and eighty five entries are on
Speaker 3: the Eagles tonight than anything.
Speaker 1: That's up there. For me, the Jaguars jumps out to me.
Speaker 1: Just maybe, look, it's not all that much Jaguars jumps out,
Speaker 1: but when you're saying, when you say they're the sixth
Speaker 1: most selected team, that was a little surprising to me.
Speaker 3: The Colts is kind of surprising too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The Colts, by the way, one thirty nine on the
Speaker 3: on the commodes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3: But but you know, again, you don't want to judge
Speaker 3: because listen, I may be through, but I'm certainly not.
Speaker 3: If you were power ranking the remaining you know, what
Speaker 3: is it, they're remaining four thousand, six hundred and sixty
Speaker 3: two survivor entries. I've gone Saints Texans. I'm not power
Speaker 3: ranked high, but the people who are through having picked
Speaker 3: the commodes, they would be power ranked much higher. Yeah,
Speaker 3: towards the top. So there's always that. All right, let's continue.
Speaker 1: What do we win? Still in the early window? Chargers
Speaker 1: at Steelers.
Speaker 3: Chargers at Steelers. All right, I want I do not
Speaker 3: want to focus on the Chargers at Steelers.
Speaker 1: So this is the the.
Speaker 3: Bad two and Oero Teams Bowl is what this is?
Speaker 3: Something's gotta give. One of these two teams is gonna
Speaker 3: be three and Oh. I don't want to focus on
Speaker 3: the Chargers. They play the Panthers. Can I just focus
Speaker 3: on the Panthers for a second? Carolina three and out?
Speaker 3: These are the Carolina drives. I'm gonna go through this.
Speaker 3: Carolina three and out, Carolina three and out minus two yards,
Speaker 3: Carolina three and out, Carolina three and out. Is this
Speaker 3: exciting second play? Subsequent drive, Bryce throws it into traffic
Speaker 3: picked by Moulden. Now Chargers are sort of scoring at
Speaker 3: their leisure while this is going on. So twenty to
Speaker 3: nothing by halftime, and then Carolina has a punt before
Speaker 3: the end of the half. They do get a field
Speaker 3: goal from Pinero to start the third, nicely done. They
Speaker 3: traded them twenty three to three. Then Bryce doesn't see
Speaker 3: a wide open theel and Downfield sacked three and out.
Speaker 3: Then another Carolina three and out. It's twenty six to
Speaker 3: three was the final. I really don't have anything to
Speaker 3: say about the Chargers other than they were playing the Panthers.
Speaker 3: So the Panthers have been just destroyed back to back
Speaker 3: weeks by the Saints and the Chargers. The Chargers held
Speaker 3: the Panthers to seven first downs, one of twelve on
Speaker 3: third down, and one hundred and fifty nine total yards.
Speaker 3: We'll get to the Panthers when it's their turn, but
Speaker 3: that's the Chargers side, and they played Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh beats Denver.
Speaker 3: I don't want to focus on Pittsburgh either. Let's let's
Speaker 3: just do this symmetrically. Here's Denver yesterday and again Pittsburgh
Speaker 3: and the Chargers deserve credit on their end, but you
Speaker 3: get the idea here. You're dealing in the Panthers, in
Speaker 3: the Broncos with two completely inept offenses, Denver's drives three
Speaker 3: and out, three and out, punt Denver on downs incomplete
Speaker 3: knicks to Franklin intended for Franklin fourth and seven at
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh thirty eight second half, Denver three and out,
Speaker 3: Denver big play, now big blay Kelly Knicks to Williams
Speaker 3: for forty nine after Nicks to Sutton for twenty six
Speaker 3: on third and seven, but two plays later, second and
Speaker 3: goal with the six knicks picked by Trice in the
Speaker 3: end zone. Then Denver three and out, then down thirteen
Speaker 3: to nothing. Denver matriculates down thirteen fourth and six of
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh sixteen. All right, Sean Payton, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: What is wrong with you? People seem to think you're
Speaker 3: a legendary great coach. Guess what. You never have been,
Speaker 3: he never will be. It's the second biggest lie told
Speaker 3: in sports. Again, what's the first one?
Speaker 1: Kelly?
Speaker 3: Oh no, yes you do. Do you pay attention to
Speaker 3: the show? Hega is not just a clay core tennis player.
Speaker 1: That's the first big one.
Speaker 3: The second one is that Sean Payton is some kind
Speaker 3: of great coach. Stop it. Sean Payton, who has never
Speaker 3: whispered anybody. He gotta whisper louder to bow Nicks, by
Speaker 3: the way, if he wants Knicks to be good. But
Speaker 3: Sean Payton, who got Drew Brees as a finished product,
Speaker 3: has never quarterback whispered anybody into success. Here's this game.
Speaker 3: They're down thirteen to nothing, Kelly, it's fourth and six
Speaker 3: of the Pittsburgh sixteen. They decide, with ten forty two
Speaker 3: left to kick a Lutz thirty five yard field goal.
Speaker 3: Thirteen to three. Okay, Denver three and out on their
Speaker 3: next drive. Then Denver, what twenty nine yard field goal?
Speaker 3: With one fifty four left. You're down ten. They kick
Speaker 3: the twenty nine yard field goal, but by the way,
Speaker 3: he barely makes thirteen to six Pittsburgh. Now Denver has
Speaker 3: so already the fact that he's kicking They kick the
Speaker 3: first field goal was already questionable. At that point. When
Speaker 3: you're down thirteen to nothing, it's like, okay, you're down
Speaker 3: two scores, Why are you kicking the field goal to
Speaker 3: make it thirteen to three. That's the first thing. You
Speaker 3: just try to avoid a shout out, Okay, what are
Speaker 3: we doing? So thirteen to six? The second field goal
Speaker 3: makes sense because then you cut it to a one
Speaker 3: score game. But Denver has one time out, down seven,
Speaker 3: we're talking less than two minutes left in the game.
Speaker 3: He does not declare an on sidekick, He does not
Speaker 3: say I do declare, So he kicks it away and
Speaker 3: then Denver ends up Even after a Pittsburgh wun, they
Speaker 3: end up at their own nineteen yard line with nine
Speaker 3: seconds left in the game.
Speaker 1: What are you doing?
Speaker 3: What are you doing? Sean Payton? Already know that you're
Speaker 3: a fraud, but now you're proving it to everybody. What
Speaker 3: are you doing? Sean Payton? Everybody? Anyways? Pittsburgh at Denver.
Speaker 3: So it's like, I don't excuse me, Chargers at Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: I don't know what we know about either team because
Speaker 3: they played horrible offense. With you, I said, Pittsburgh minus three.
Speaker 3: I didn't know what else is.
Speaker 1: No, you're pretty close two to two and a half
Speaker 1: out there right now, two and a half up at
Speaker 1: Draft Kings for the Steelers, all right, which I don't know.
Speaker 1: It feels like a couple of those last week right
Speaker 1: where we're like, why isn't this three?
Speaker 3: But whatever, Mike Tomlin or Jim Harbaugh, one of them
Speaker 3: is gonna.
Speaker 1: Be three and they die of course, all right? Next
Speaker 1: game early win, No Broncos at Bucks.
Speaker 3: So Nick's finished Bonix twenty of thirty five for two
Speaker 3: forty six. They outgained Pittsburgh two ninety five to two
Speaker 3: fifty one. They were minus two and turnovers. Another game
Speaker 3: plagued by penalties nineteen total penalties for two oh two,
Speaker 3: nine of them for the Broncos for one to twenty four.
Speaker 3: Peyton could not have been happy with that. Tampa Bay
Speaker 3: beats Detroit six to six. Game. Let's pick it up
Speaker 3: in the second quarter, bardon me. Tampa Bay goes seventy
Speaker 3: yards Baker to Godwin for forty one, thirteen to six Tampa.
Speaker 3: Then Tampa gets it back third and seven at their
Speaker 3: own forty five Baker mayfield pick by branch. Late second quarter,
Speaker 3: Detroit starts at their own forty four. They're looking for
Speaker 3: a double dip. They matriculate. They get it to third
Speaker 3: and two at the Tampa Bay nine, no timeouts left
Speaker 3: and with seconds left, twelve men on the field on
Speaker 3: the golf spike. They have to do the runoff. So
Speaker 3: Detroit went all you know, went completely downfield and couldn't
Speaker 3: even get a field goal try off because of the penalty.
Speaker 3: Twelve men on the field. So Tampa's up seven. They
Speaker 3: go into the second half. Detroit ends up with a
Speaker 3: twelve play sixty eight yard drive six oh seven. Montgomery
Speaker 3: in from one after Saint Brown got hurt on a
Speaker 3: seventeen yard pickup on third and eight from the Tampa
Speaker 3: Bay eighteen, and then they punch it in the Montgomery
Speaker 3: touchdown sixteen to thirteen Detroit. Detroit actually leads here Tampa
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay immediately six plays seventy yards the other direction,
Speaker 3: Mayfield from eleven out twenty to sixteen Tampa Bay closing
Speaker 3: seconds of the third quarter. Then later after they trade
Speaker 3: a couple punts, Detroit matriculate second and sixteen at the
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay twenty eight. This is how the game ended.
Speaker 3: These are the three Detroit drives down the game. Detroit
Speaker 3: gets to the twenty eight second and sixteen golf picked
Speaker 3: by Izzian threw it right to him. Detroit gets the
Speaker 3: ball back fourth and eight at the Tampa Bay eleven.
Speaker 3: They turn it over on downs golf to Gibbs for five,
Speaker 3: and then they get it back again because Tampa Bay
Speaker 3: played the clock wrong, and they take over the Tampa
Speaker 3: Bay forty four with thirty three seconds left down in
Speaker 3: this game, but a chance to win it. They get
Speaker 3: to the twenty six spike. Incomplete, incomplete, incomplete ballgame, and
Speaker 3: eight hundred and fifty nine survivors are out with the Lions.
Speaker 1: So glad you ran through it like that, because that
Speaker 1: is the This was a biggest, one of the biggest
Speaker 1: takeaways from this game. This was just more Lions shooting
Speaker 1: themselves in the foot of time and time and time
Speaker 1: again than the Bucks really really going in there and
Speaker 1: winning this ball game.
Speaker 3: The Lions outgained the Buccaneers four sixty three to two sixteen,
Speaker 3: largely because of that last drive on the first half
Speaker 3: that they botched with the penalty and those last three
Speaker 3: dogs where they kept driving and kept failing.
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield at Texas so many it's like kind of
Speaker 1: like Tony Romo. Now it feels like like old school
Speaker 1: Tony Romo. Do you get those vibes at all? Think
Speaker 1: about it, Like it's like a gamer, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like he'll like run for no reason. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you don't know if the ball is gonna be a
Speaker 1: touchdout at it or reception.
Speaker 3: Bucks have got to be at least a seven point
Speaker 3: I said seven on the button against Denver.
Speaker 1: So right now it is six and a half. Mainly
Speaker 1: there are some sevens out there.
Speaker 4: I aid the six and a half last night.
Speaker 3: So far I only like New England based on these numbers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't. I can't get behind what Peyton's
Speaker 1: doing there with bo Nicks.
Speaker 3: If Antonio Pearce was we do this thing on the
Speaker 3: megapod called Dumbo of the Wakens Toddsword. Antonio Pierce was
Speaker 3: clearly that in Week one against the Chargers with his
Speaker 3: horrible fourth down decisions. Sean Payton clearly that in week two?
Speaker 1: I agree?
Speaker 3: Did he was? He just gave up? Was that he
Speaker 3: didn't understand what was happening? What was that?
Speaker 1: I guess I would like to think this is that kid?
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 3: Well, the first field goal was, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: You need two scores because whenever you get an opportunity
Speaker 3: to cut a two score game to a two score game,
Speaker 3: Sean Payne, you obviously have to do that, which he did.
Speaker 4: The Colts did that too.
Speaker 3: And then but the on side kicked under two minutes
Speaker 3: with one time out, Like, I just have no idea
Speaker 3: what you're doing. Yes, he just gave the game away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm with you. There's a lot of that
Speaker 1: team I can't trust and this Bucks team's looked. They
Speaker 1: had a lot of injuries yesterday and that might be
Speaker 1: a factor again next week. But you know, they didn't
Speaker 1: look bad as much as I said. That was more
Speaker 1: of the Lions given that game away and then it
Speaker 1: look bad. All right.
Speaker 3: What have you bet so far in these games?
Speaker 1: Just to I'm very light this week so far?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Bucks Titans I mentioned, Yeah, Bucks and tit Titans money
Speaker 1: line and Bucks I laid six and a half.
Speaker 3: With New England is the only one so far the
Speaker 3: Thursday night game.
Speaker 1: It's definitely not a like openers yesterday. I didn't go
Speaker 1: crazy bet all, even the ones I bet they were
Speaker 1: pretty low.
Speaker 3: Well so far. Again, the point of this whole exercise,
Speaker 3: and I hope you're playing along with us, is to
Speaker 3: try to extract value from the first look of lines.
Speaker 3: And that's the only one so far that I see value.
Speaker 3: We got a whole bunch more to get to, including uh.
Speaker 1: Your Saint's Eagles too.
Speaker 3: Saint's Eagles, Oh yeah, yeah, that one too. Saint singles
Speaker 3: right where I thought there was a wrong team favorite,
Speaker 3: that would be the other one correct. So those two
Speaker 3: Patriots and Saints thus far. We continued whole bunch of
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Speaker 3: dot com a breath of sports. What is oh? Let
Speaker 3: me read some tweets. Let me read a couple of tweets.
Speaker 3: Bobby Knuckles, can you have Kelly demonstrate how to whisper louder? Yes?
Speaker 1: Why did we say that?
Speaker 3: I said Sean Payton better whisper louder because people call
Speaker 3: him the quarterback whisper I'm like.
Speaker 1: That is a that is a that is a former
Speaker 1: guilt producer specialty. That is the Jeff Parrel specialty. I've
Speaker 1: never seen anybody whisper so loud in my entire life.
Speaker 3: And Jeff Pearls doesn't only whisper loud, though, but then
Speaker 3: he gets he gets in your ear, and then he
Speaker 3: continues to move slowly back behind you. So you find
Speaker 3: yourself doing it here a wet it's.
Speaker 1: Very very whispered, trails off. It's you know, I just like, Jeff, why.
Speaker 3: Are you moving? Brian m Ne. Next, we need for tennis.
Speaker 3: In an old time he voice, I do declare thou
Speaker 3: hast been walked over as the advancing player steps over
Speaker 3: the withdrawid player. And then a rat City is using
Speaker 3: anyone against the Panthers and survivor should never be a
Speaker 3: tough decision. It would literally be like having either of
Speaker 3: you guys lining up at quarterback. Well, first of all,
Speaker 3: rat City, I resent the second part of that, Kelly
Speaker 3: could absolutely And secondly, I think rat City, I think
Speaker 3: you're right. I think after two weeks we can all
Speaker 3: say that the point was after one week, I wasn't
Speaker 3: prepared to say that, but now undred percent.
Speaker 1: You're right. Also, what is like like real quick with
Speaker 1: bad quarterbacks like Mollie Quills? Right, Okay, they got the game,
Speaker 1: they won the game yesterday. But why why sign a
Speaker 1: guy that you're not confident throwing the ball? Like, why
Speaker 1: is your backup quarterback? You're not? You have no confidence whatsoever.
Speaker 3: Overall quarterback play in this league.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, it's crazy. All right, we are into the
Speaker 1: afternoon window four oh five Eastern Panthers and the Raiders.
Speaker 3: Panthers at the Raiders. Raiders are going to be a
Speaker 3: popular survivor play Bryce. By the way, yesterday for the Panthers,
Speaker 3: eighteen of twenty six for eighty four. Again, they were
Speaker 3: held the seven first downs, one of twelve on third
Speaker 3: and one hundred and fifty nine total yards. They also,
Speaker 3: for good measured nine penalties.
Speaker 1: For now, how do you have eighteen completions for eighty
Speaker 1: four yards? Oh boy, well, you know, Kelly, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna do the math real quick. That is south of
Speaker 1: five yards per attempt or per completion, I should say. Okay,
Speaker 1: Raiders beat the Ravens.
Speaker 3: This sort of snuck up on it because the you know,
Speaker 3: it was a field goal tradeoff thing.
Speaker 1: It was nine.
Speaker 3: It was nine to six Baltimore at the half, and
Speaker 3: then and then lamar Yeah at a six play seventy yard drive.
Speaker 3: The Ravens did Lamar to Flowers from eight out thirteen
Speaker 3: to three Baltimore eleven forty two left in the third quarter.
Speaker 3: Then Lamar second and six is own forty four a
Speaker 3: little later picked by Spelane. That set up the the
Speaker 3: Raiders at the plus forty six seven plays and then
Speaker 3: Alexander Madison in from one sixteen to thirteen Baltimore late
Speaker 3: third quarter, but Baltimore comes back nine plays seventy six
Speaker 3: yards Henry in from three twenty three to thirteen Baltimore
Speaker 3: twelve eleven left in the fourth quarter, and Baltimore Ravens
Speaker 3: survivor players are probably like, Eh, we.
Speaker 1: Got this, No sweat Raiders. I'm a little worried about
Speaker 1: covering a Gil, but not that much. I've got him
Speaker 1: in a bunch of teasers. Not that, by the.
Speaker 3: Way, I got so many problem I got so many
Speaker 3: Antonio Pierces looking for you in the building tweets asterday.
Speaker 3: I was like, I know he is Carlson twenty five
Speaker 3: yard field goal twenty three to sixteen Baltimore nine twenty
Speaker 3: one left fourth quarter. Then after a Baltimore three and out,
Speaker 3: Baltimore all of a sudden couldn't do anything. Vegas nine
Speaker 3: plays seventy yards third and goal to Baltimore seventeen, and
Speaker 3: they call a PI on Stevens in the end zone
Speaker 3: versus Adams.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was why thought that was dicey?
Speaker 3: Yeah to Minshee to Adams from one out and we
Speaker 3: are tied at twenty three with three fifty four to go.
Speaker 3: But surely Lamar Jackson the Ravens could take care of business. Nope,
Speaker 3: Crosby sacks Lamar on first down. It's a three and
Speaker 3: out and the Raiders take over the Baltimore forty three
Speaker 3: with two twenty one to go. Carlson thirty eight yard
Speaker 3: field goal good, twenty seven seconds left. Baltimore never flirts
Speaker 3: with field goal range. Pitchy, pitchy, woo woo fails. Someone
Speaker 3: on Twitter was saying, like, Lamar could have just kept
Speaker 3: running and he might have had a shot at it,
Speaker 3: and instead he just like sent it backwards for no reason. Anyway,
Speaker 3: Raiders with a big upset over the Ravens. Two thousand,
Speaker 3: three hundred four Survivor entries out alone in circa. On
Speaker 3: the Ravens, Minshew was thirty of thirty eight for two
Speaker 3: seventy six.
Speaker 1: And they were I think good on Antonio Pierce it
Speaker 1: was halftime and instead thrown out the game plan. We're
Speaker 1: slinging the ball around with Minshew after in the second half,
Speaker 1: and it worked.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he was talking to Delicious or
Speaker 3: what was going.
Speaker 1: On, Like, I can't believe that worked, but it worked.
Speaker 1: Minshee throwing the ball around just worked.
Speaker 3: On the Ravens d thirty for thirty eight for two
Speaker 3: seventy six. They were out gained by Baltimore three eighty
Speaker 3: three to two sixty one, fifty one to twenty seven
Speaker 3: on the ground didn't matter. Adam's nine for one ten,
Speaker 3: I'll say the Raiders by seven.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you had the same reaction when
Speaker 1: Justin Tucker missed that field goal that I did.
Speaker 3: But Justin Tucker has now missed a field goal in
Speaker 3: both games.
Speaker 1: Yes, and it was Oh, I'm sure that won't come
Speaker 1: back to batter at all. Okay, line on this one,
Speaker 1: we have you are dead on Raiders seven.
Speaker 3: Everywhere who had through two weeks of the NFL season
Speaker 3: no kicker will ever miss a field goal except for
Speaker 3: Justin Duckle.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, man, I like it started happening last year.
Speaker 1: I really thought it was just so like a golf swing. Right,
Speaker 1: it's a little broken. He'll fix it in the off season.
Speaker 3: Nope, that this is the thing now apparently next All right,
Speaker 3: these are all afternoon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're four oh five Eastern Time Dolphins at the Seahawks.
Speaker 3: All right, we uh Dolphins on extra rest. They lose
Speaker 3: to the Bills on Thursday night. Skyler Thompson is now
Speaker 3: your starting quarterback and Seattle, as we talked about, they win.
Speaker 3: They're two and o now right Seattle Seahawks two and
Speaker 3: oh under presumptive coach of the year Mike McDonald. Hope
Speaker 3: he wills it into existence. G know, by the way,
Speaker 3: thirty three or forty four for three twenty seven in
Speaker 3: the Seahawks win yesterday, I said, Seahawks by four and
Speaker 3: a half.
Speaker 1: Am I light, You're light. It's coming down knowing So
Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay, I got anywhere between five and
Speaker 1: a half and six and a half on the board
Speaker 1: right now. DraftKings is at six and a half, So
Speaker 1: you were light compared to the six DraftKings.
Speaker 3: Six and a half feels large.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is. This one's gonna be interesting to monitor though,
Speaker 1: because I I'm with you that like six and a
Speaker 1: half feels large.
Speaker 4: I'm with you.
Speaker 1: But what are we There's a lot of injuries to
Speaker 1: monitor here. Yep. Do we know for sure?
Speaker 4: I mean, it's to it definitely out.
Speaker 3: Do we know that for sure? We do not one
Speaker 3: hundred percent know that.
Speaker 1: But no, I think he is.
Speaker 3: But the National Football League, for all they're talking about
Speaker 3: protecting players and concussion protocol whatever that is, cannot allow
Speaker 3: to play in this game. I cannot.
Speaker 1: I would think he's missing it too.
Speaker 3: But I'm not saying he's done. He has no plans
Speaker 3: to retire. I'm not telling him to retire. I'm just
Speaker 3: saying the next game you cannot play it, Like come.
Speaker 1: On, yeah, all right?
Speaker 4: I would think so.
Speaker 1: Sorry for Ravens and Cowboys.
Speaker 3: Lamar twenty one of thirty four for two forty seven
Speaker 3: in defeat Dak twenty seven of thirty nine for two
Speaker 3: ninety three in defeat Dallas by two and a half.
Speaker 1: This is no, this is an interesting one. I have
Speaker 1: the same thought you did. Ravens one one and a
Speaker 1: half Raven's rude favorite.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is one of those where I'm guessing what
Speaker 3: I think the market will have. I kind of almost
Speaker 3: more agree with the Ravens part, but I cannot believe
Speaker 3: the Ravens are favorites.
Speaker 1: I had the same thought you did, wow me and
Speaker 1: you were lockstep on this. I thought I thought it'd
Speaker 1: be Cowboys. Maybe not. I mean, like, we're kind of
Speaker 1: not consequential numbers here. I thought it was gonna be
Speaker 1: like Cowboys one and a half.
Speaker 3: Something like that, I thought. I mean, I listen, I'm
Speaker 3: not running to bet this because I actually like the
Speaker 3: Ravens better than I do the Cowboys. Me too, I
Speaker 3: like the Patriots and the Saints better in the other games.
Speaker 3: But I'm surprised that this is a Ravens opener as
Speaker 3: the favorite.
Speaker 1: There's a couple one and a halves out there like
Speaker 1: this is Cowboys and a teasers. Interesting to me?
Speaker 3: Yep, it is that. I want to do one more.
Speaker 1: Here, Yeah, let's do one more. All right? We are
Speaker 1: still four twenty five Eastern time, forty nine ers at
Speaker 1: rams ooh spill.
Speaker 3: Okay, so this is the Rams. I don't even know
Speaker 3: what you do with this team, they have so many
Speaker 3: injuries that it's just ridiculous. San Francisco loses. They fall
Speaker 3: to one in one the Rams, as we mentioned, well,
Speaker 3: we haven't mentioned the Rams San Francisco without CMC SMC
Speaker 3: now on IR. Christian McCaffrey. Purdy was twenty eight of
Speaker 3: thirty six for three nineteen in defeat. He only threw
Speaker 3: eight incompletions, but he was sacked six times and he
Speaker 3: lost to Fumble Mason twenty for one hundred and second
Speaker 3: straight one hundred yard game for him. Deebo eight for one,
Speaker 3: ten Kittle seven for seventy six in a touchdown didn't matter.
Speaker 3: Vikings beat him. The Rams got absolutely housed by the
Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals forty one to ten. And this is one
Speaker 3: of these games again the competitive portion was early. Rams
Speaker 3: had a fourth and two on the opening drive. It
Speaker 3: was is not in the opening drive, but the Rams,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, it was fourth and two at Arizona forty one.
Speaker 3: Stafford to Cup for one, so they turned it over
Speaker 3: on downs. Arizona immediately six play sixty yards Kyler to
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior from twenty three out touchdowns seven to nothing. Arizona.
Speaker 3: Remember the Marvin Harrison Junior. The Marvin Harrison junior only
Speaker 3: got four targets and one catch last week. And who
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray completely didn't see in the end zone that
Speaker 3: could have beaten the Bills LA three and out Arizona
Speaker 3: one play, sixty yards Kyler Harrison Junior great to dive
Speaker 3: into the end zone fourteen to nothing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this guy's pretty good. Actually yeah.
Speaker 3: After another Rams three and out Arizona third and five
Speaker 3: of their own seventeen Kyler to Harrison for thirty two.
Speaker 3: At this point in the game, he had four catches
Speaker 3: for one hundred and thirty yards. By the way, that
Speaker 3: was his closing box score number. Also never caught another
Speaker 3: pass twenty one to nothing Arizona later because that was
Speaker 3: a thirteen to play ninety nine yard drive in the
Speaker 3: end Kyler n Higgins from eighteen out. Anyway, that's all
Speaker 3: you need to know. It was twenty one and nothing there,
Speaker 3: It was, you know what, twenty four to three at
Speaker 3: the half. They did call a pass uncatchable. I just
Speaker 3: want to note in this game Stafford for Johnson in
Speaker 3: the end zone, a flag came out, but the pass
Speaker 3: was ruled uncatchable. So apparently after three years where they
Speaker 3: never called uncatchable. Now all of a sudden they can
Speaker 3: call it in certain games.
Speaker 1: So what's funny is like I have a sort of
Speaker 1: different like I think they need to throw that flag
Speaker 1: more off. But the problem is they're never consistent with that.
Speaker 1: As we ever asked. All we ever asked is kids.
Speaker 3: There was a play last night in the Texans game
Speaker 3: where Mike Tarico and Chris Chris Collinsworth was trying to
Speaker 3: make a catch catchable yeah, when it was clearly not
Speaker 3: like Tarico laughed and it was like, well, I don't know,
Speaker 3: you'd have to be something, specially with the catch level. Anyway,
Speaker 3: they went up thirty one to three. They end up
Speaker 3: winning forty one to ten. They outscored the rams Are
Speaker 3: outgained them for eighty nine to forty five, Niners by
Speaker 3: seven on the road against a mash unit.
Speaker 4: Forty nine seven out to seven and a half.
Speaker 3: In a couple of plays, Cup had to leave the game.
Speaker 3: The Coup was out five to stead line and their
Speaker 3: line is off is just completely decimated. Four games to
Speaker 3: get to guessing lines.
Speaker 2: Next the Numbers game on the Sports Betting Network.
Speaker 3: Back on a numbers game, Numeros was listening in Spanish.
Speaker 3: Skill Alexander. Kelly Bidlin right here on the Numbers game
Speaker 3: and vs in the Sports Betting Network live from Circa
Speaker 3: guessing lines for week number three in the National Football League.
Speaker 3: Tweets at beating the book always appreciated. Let's see Charlie
Speaker 3: d USA number one. Gill, you're locked in, great work
Speaker 3: as always with KB. Kevin Burkhard is here.
Speaker 1: Oh, Kelly Bidlin, A.
Speaker 3: Joe named Jim says, my first Hamilton Madison mashup of
Speaker 3: the twenty four season. Great weight open the week. Thank
Speaker 3: you for noticing. I appreciate that. Jeff Schwartz. Oh, I'm
Speaker 3: glad you brother this. Thank you, Jeff Schwartz. This is
Speaker 3: great through two weeks. Getting to what we were talking
Speaker 3: about with Justin Tucker, He says, Justin Tucker, Oh for
Speaker 3: two from fifty plus the rest of the league, the
Speaker 3: rest of the league thirty five of thirty seven from
Speaker 3: fifty plus yards. That cannot be real. It cannot be real.
Speaker 1: The other two.
Speaker 3: Misses Matt Gay yesterday coming back from hernia surgery and
Speaker 3: kad Yorke, who was cut after week one. Wow, we
Speaker 3: were talking about this yesterday on the group thread, like
Speaker 3: a forty seven yard are on grass when we were
Speaker 3: growing up was iffy, and if it was like at
Speaker 3: Heinz Field, you were more likely to miss. It's right now,
Speaker 3: it's like fifty three, fifty nine, fifty seven. We're gonna
Speaker 3: get to a game here with the Chiefs. The non
Speaker 3: chalance with which Andy Reid and the Chiefs settled for
Speaker 3: a fifty one yard game winning field goal was unbelievable
Speaker 3: to me. And he's like, yeah, I'll just I'll just kno, get.
Speaker 1: Through this sit. Weirder to you, though, Is it weirder
Speaker 1: to you how many of these kicks were taking at
Speaker 1: fifty plus and making or that justin Tucker is one
Speaker 1: of the ones we have to keep mentioning is failing
Speaker 1: the former still, because it's just amazing how nobody misses nobody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're not particularly close.
Speaker 4: I'm amazed by the Tucker thing, though, Like it is weird.
Speaker 3: Russell Ambrose Survivor Guess Most Popular in order. He's guessing
Speaker 3: what's going to be the most popular Survivor picks next week.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, he says, Raiders versus the Panthers, Number one,
Speaker 3: Chiefs versus the Falcons, which we haven't gotten to. We'll
Speaker 3: get to at number two. Browns versus the Giants three. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's up there. Jets versus the Patriots four.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't agree with that.
Speaker 3: And then the Seahawks versus the Dolphins without two of five.
Speaker 3: Interesting choices. All right, let's get through the end of
Speaker 3: the rest.
Speaker 1: For twenty five Eastern Time Lions at Cardinals.
Speaker 3: So we talked about lose to the Buccaneers. The Lions
Speaker 3: now one in one on the young season, Goff thirty
Speaker 3: four of fifty five for three to ZH seven, Saint
Speaker 3: Brown eleven for one to nineteen. Hutchinson with five agent
Speaker 3: Aiden Hutchinson. I forgot to mention this four and a
Speaker 3: half sacks in a forced fumble indible. Again they outgained
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay four sixty three to two sixteen and the
Speaker 3: most deceiving box score you'll ever see, because again end
Speaker 3: of first half they botched that last drive and then
Speaker 3: the last three drives they matriculate and then fail on
Speaker 3: all of them either through interception or turnover on downs
Speaker 3: and Arizona. Arizona goes to one and one with their crushing,
Speaker 3: their just absolute destruction of the Rams. The banged up rams.
Speaker 3: Kyler was seventeen of twenty one for two sixty six
Speaker 3: for three touchdowns. Uh he had a perfect passer rating.
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray with a one to fifty eight point three
Speaker 3: perfect passer rating. He was also five for fifty nine
Speaker 3: on the ground.
Speaker 1: He's this offense is damn good. I think this might
Speaker 1: be an automatic overplay for behind the Cardinals every game
Speaker 1: here until until these numbers. Bought about a little bit.
Speaker 3: I said, Detroit minus two and a half on the road.
Speaker 1: It is three right now, open three and a half
Speaker 1: most places.
Speaker 3: Too much.
Speaker 1: I bet Cardinals at three and a half yesterday. I
Speaker 1: took the three and a half. Was about to bet
Speaker 1: the over on this game, but I'm gonna let this
Speaker 1: total settle in. It's fifty one to fifty two right now.
Speaker 1: I will go over fifty.
Speaker 4: One, though, so I'll probably have two plays in this
Speaker 4: game Cardinals.
Speaker 3: And by the way, that sound you heard is me
Speaker 3: banging on the table, because it's a bet I would
Speaker 3: have probably made had I not done the kiss.
Speaker 1: Would you bet at three though? I mean obviously not
Speaker 1: as much as probably not. Okay, next we are Sunday night, now,
Speaker 1: Chiefs and Falcons.
Speaker 3: All right, Chiefs and Chiefs and Bengals yesterday, we haven't
Speaker 3: gotten that game. Great game, Kansas City, one of the few,
Speaker 3: one of the few good ones. Right, Butker nineteen yard
Speaker 3: field goal to tie the game up at three. That
Speaker 3: was after McPherson twenty two yarder. That was a fourth
Speaker 3: and one that the Chiefs get a fourth and one
Speaker 3: conversion at the three three, then first and goal at
Speaker 3: the two. Pacheco no gain, Pachecko, no gain. Mahomes to
Speaker 3: Pacheco for one, fourth and goal at the one. Read
Speaker 3: ops for the kick. You thought that? Do you think
Speaker 3: that was a little weird? I was like, what are
Speaker 3: you doing with this? Him and Demiko Ryans both that's
Speaker 3: late first quarter? Then Kansas City next time they get
Speaker 3: the ball back first and tenth their own twenty nine
Speaker 3: Mahomes picked by Davis Gaylor, sets up Cincinnati at Kansas
Speaker 3: City thirty one. Seven plays later, Burrow to Yoshivas, Yo,
Speaker 3: how do you pronounce his name again? Yoshikva gosh I No,
Speaker 3: I had it yesterday, and now I can't do it
Speaker 3: all of a sudden because I'm from four out ten
Speaker 3: to three. Cincinnati twelve oh four Yoshivas by the way
Speaker 3: is how you pronounce it. Twelve oh four left in
Speaker 3: the second quarter. Kansas City came right back those six
Speaker 3: play seventy yards Mahomes de Rice for forty four, ten
Speaker 3: to ten. It would be it would be sixteen to
Speaker 3: ten at the half Cincinnati after they added a couple
Speaker 3: of field goals one fumble for the Chiefs and then
Speaker 3: that's set up the second one of those. So sixteen
Speaker 3: to ten Cincinnati at the half. Then second half Kansas
Speaker 3: City thirteen play seventy cards. Six thirty nine was the
Speaker 3: total time in the drive Mahomes to Morris from one
Speaker 3: out seventeen to sixteen Chiefs eight twenty one left.
Speaker 1: Third quarter.
Speaker 3: This is back and forth. Cincinnati first played Burrow to
Speaker 3: Burton for forty eight. That led to a fourth and
Speaker 3: goal of the three Burrow to Yoshivas touchdown twenty two
Speaker 3: seventeen Cincinnati to sixteen left in the third quarter. McPherson
Speaker 3: p eighteen, no good when he should have gone for two.
Speaker 3: Anyway to go up seven or try to go up seven.
Speaker 3: He says, nah, you know, Zach Taylor's like, I like
Speaker 3: six better than seven. Let's get an extra point and
Speaker 3: he misses it. Serves him right. Kansas City last night,
Speaker 3: that was weird too.
Speaker 1: What are you doing?
Speaker 3: I don't know what these coaches are doing, man, I
Speaker 3: just don't. Kansas City last play, third quarter, camp Taylor
Speaker 3: Bred an amazing one handed pick of Mahomes ridiculous, and
Speaker 3: then Cincinnati with a third and ten of their own
Speaker 3: thirty four. Burrough sacked by Dan and Wharton. He fumbles,
Speaker 3: I guess, recovered by Connor thirty eight yards of the house,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, the Chiefs lead again, twenty
Speaker 3: three to twenty two. Their two point conversion fails. Burrow
Speaker 3: seemed to know that he fumbled it. We never really
Speaker 3: got a great shot.
Speaker 1: I felt the same way. Yeah, I never thought there
Speaker 1: was a great shot, And if it would have been
Speaker 1: called the other way, I thought it would have stood
Speaker 1: for sure. But Mahomes poker face bro like Burrow, sorry, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: poker face. He acted completely like it was a fumble,
Speaker 1: so it must have been. But live it didn't look
Speaker 1: like a fumble. Little. I think all the replays too,
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know that's out for sure.
Speaker 3: Anyway, they let it stand. Twenty three, twenty two, Kansas City,
Speaker 3: fourth quarter, Cincinnati gets in field goal range, headed for
Speaker 3: maybe more. Officials miss another hip drop tackle. Chase gets
Speaker 3: in the officials face not once, but twice. He gets
Speaker 3: flagged front sportsman like yep, stupid Burrow does well to
Speaker 3: get since he back infield goal range. McPherson sinks it
Speaker 3: from fifty three because of course he does. Fifty three
Speaker 3: chip shot twenty five, twenty three Cincinnati. Then after a
Speaker 3: couple uh after they trade punts, Kansas City takes over
Speaker 3: with two thirty five to go at their own I
Speaker 3: have the let yard line here and all their timeouts.
Speaker 3: They get it fourth and six at their own forty five.
Speaker 3: Fourth and six of their own forty five, again, down
Speaker 3: two points, they get a hold on Hendrickson, Hendrickson trying
Speaker 3: to sack Mahomes. They hold him, so it's fourth and
Speaker 3: sixteen now from their own thirty five.
Speaker 1: This is it.
Speaker 3: You make one play, you win the game, Cincinnati, right,
Speaker 3: Mahomes heaves it. He gets a pi on Anthony and
Speaker 3: it was a pi by the way, he got there
Speaker 3: too early.
Speaker 1: But it was just like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: This is how the Bengals are gonna lose. And then,
Speaker 3: as I said earlier, then they're super nonchalant about They're like, eh,
Speaker 3: let's just say, you know, Butker, let's settle for the
Speaker 3: fifty one yard er here, good easy get down the middle.
Speaker 3: Ball game twenty six to twenty five Kansas City. I
Speaker 3: left that game feeling so weird about it. I was like,
Speaker 3: did that just happen? They're like, eh, fifty one yards,
Speaker 3: no problem. Twenty six twenty five Chiefs beat the Bengals.
Speaker 3: Bengals go to h and two. Chiefs now to no.
Speaker 3: This is Chiefs at Atlanta. We'll talk about Atlanta in
Speaker 3: a moment. Atlanta plays tonight against the Eagles.
Speaker 1: Real quick. Just want to follow up on a Chief's
Speaker 1: injury note too, Yes, broken fibula and the word is
Speaker 1: out four or a good amount of time. I'd be like, man,
Speaker 1: I would think that season. They're saying weeks right now,
Speaker 1: but I would think that season also, just we'd mentioned
Speaker 1: it a couple of times. Joe Mixon, I guess I
Speaker 1: missed this last night. He be not happy about all
Speaker 1: the missed hip drop tackles, the tackles that have not
Speaker 1: been called today.
Speaker 3: Joe Mixon is remember this week, we actually did a
Speaker 3: segment on it in the offseason like, Oh, the hip drop,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a big thing. Nope, not at all,
Speaker 3: not yet. I say, Kansas City, Mine is four and
Speaker 3: a half sight unseen on the falcon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you are spot on on that one. I believe, yes,
Speaker 1: four and a half. Every book that has a post
Speaker 1: and that I'm saying right now has four and a
Speaker 1: half to what the first of two Monday night games?
Speaker 1: So both Okay, we squeeze this in seven to thirty
Speaker 1: Eastern Jaguars at Jaguars at Bills Lawrence fourteen of thirty
Speaker 1: and defeat for two twenty Buffalo on Thursday Night extra
Speaker 1: rest here cook, Remember was the big band eleven for
Speaker 1: seventy eight, two touchdowns on the ground, one catch for
Speaker 1: seventeen in a touchdown, They were plus three and turnovers.
Speaker 3: I put it in no man's land, I said, Buffalo
Speaker 3: minus five and a half against Jacksonville. I don't know
Speaker 3: what we know about Jacksonville, and I of course am
Speaker 3: not convinced about Buffalo myself, because they beat the Cardinals,
Speaker 3: who they could have very easily lost to, and they
Speaker 3: beat the Dolphins team where Toua was making bad decisions
Speaker 3: and then Tool wasn't in at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what three and a half, three and
Speaker 1: a half on the look ahead opened a lot of
Speaker 1: places yesterday about five got up to six, back down
Speaker 1: now to five and a half. Move five and a half.
Speaker 1: Six is split right now on Buffalo.
Speaker 3: It shouldn't be more than six, should they?
Speaker 1: I agree? Man, I don't trust this Jacksonville team at all,
Speaker 1: but this is this is getting to a point where
Speaker 1: it's it's a lot of points. What's the second Monday
Speaker 1: night game? Second Monday Night Commanders at Bengals.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm surprised. The gentleman on Twitter, Russell Ambrose was
Speaker 3: Russell Ambrose. I believe he said he didn't include this
Speaker 3: in his is fit. You know thinks well, he's gonna
Speaker 3: be the most popular survivor. I think this will be
Speaker 3: perhaps the most popular survivor, if not the Raiders.
Speaker 4: This side is getting that out of control.
Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels twenty three of twenty nine for two twenty six.
Speaker 3: He got sacked five times ten for forty four on
Speaker 3: the ground, He's probably been the best of the rookie quarterbacks,
Speaker 3: but he and that wasn't that great. And then Burrow
Speaker 3: yesterday and defeed twenty three of thirty six for two
Speaker 3: fifty eight. I said Cincinnati minus seven and a hook
Speaker 3: seven and a half seven seven.
Speaker 1: The hooks were an open most places. Gil Circa's out
Speaker 1: to nine on this game, right, I believe I believe it.
Speaker 3: I think the Bengals. I know they got a lot
Speaker 3: of people in a week one, including myself with some entries. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think they're going to be the most popular survivor.
Speaker 3: Pick I do well, maybe the Raiders and then the
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Speaker 3: and then after that prop points from John Hanson and
Speaker 3: then make It Rain with Adam Shin VSA and the
Speaker 3: Sports Vetting Network Skill Alexander, it's Kelly Bidlin guessing last
Speaker 3: for week three, we've actually guessed them all. I think
Speaker 3: I like the Patriots and the Saints the most of
Speaker 3: that group, at least as they stand right now. Usually
Speaker 3: the first reactions are the best before we get into
Speaker 3: the Monday night game. I just want to say a
Speaker 3: couple of things about some of these. Again, the way
Speaker 3: too early ruminations about awards. But you asked the question
Speaker 3: when we do are we sure? On Friday you asked
Speaker 3: a question about Rookie of the Year and Rookie the Year.
Speaker 3: Whenever we do segments about Rookie of the Year in
Speaker 3: the offseason, I believe correctly say, well, if you're a
Speaker 3: quarterback who's going to play most snaps or if not
Speaker 3: every snap for a team, you're obviously in the Catbirds
Speaker 3: Sea to win Rookie of the Year. None of these quarterbacks, now,
Speaker 3: I know, Chris collins Worth gushed over Caleb Williams last night.
Speaker 3: I think Jaden Daniels has probably been the best of
Speaker 3: the rookies through two weeks. But even Jayden Daniels, and
Speaker 3: I'm a Washington fan, right, even Jaden Daniels, I kind
Speaker 3: of feel like he's on almost too comfortable, and he's
Speaker 3: like I'm gonna run, you know, and I get it.
Speaker 3: He's his offensive line is terrible. Things break down. I
Speaker 3: don't know what to make of him after two weeks
Speaker 3: because I don't know where it's offensive line problems or
Speaker 3: that he's running too quickly. He kind of was told
Speaker 3: that after week one, probably don't run as much because
Speaker 3: I don't know if that he's gonna be able to
Speaker 3: hold up having this many carries every game.
Speaker 1: It's so tough. It's so tough to manage. He's running
Speaker 1: quarterbacks like that, because I like, you want him to
Speaker 1: play his game, but it's almost like you don't want
Speaker 1: him to play his game this first year because what
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a ton of losses anyway, So we
Speaker 1: don't want you out there running all that much, right, Like, it's, uh,
Speaker 1: how do you tell a quarterback that? Right?
Speaker 3: But I mean, Washington's not a very good football team,
Speaker 3: even though they're one and one. After that, they only
Speaker 3: win that game in my opinion, because Graham Gono couldn't
Speaker 3: kick for the Giants. That's it. They came down to that.
Speaker 3: So there's that. I think the question you asked was,
Speaker 3: are we sure that a quarterback is going to win
Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year and I'm not so sure. I
Speaker 3: don't know. I think Offensive Player of the Year because
Speaker 3: very interesting this year. Also, there's a lot of random
Speaker 3: players that have started out really well who we wouldn't
Speaker 3: necessarily have talked about. We brought Nico Collins earlier as
Speaker 3: one of those kind of names.
Speaker 1: Why I got to do it? Kill? How good did
Speaker 1: he look? Did that connection look in the first quarter
Speaker 1: of your right? Easy? This should be easy. Rest of
Speaker 1: the way here. The Bears can't do anything on offense,
Speaker 1: it should be easy. Nope, we'll go over a bunch
Speaker 1: of these tomorrow because there has been some major movement
Speaker 1: in the awards markets. Rookie of the Year though short
Speaker 1: shots are now Marvin Harrison Junior at Jayden Daniels at
Speaker 1: plus two to fifty.
Speaker 3: Well, Jayden Daniels has been number two the whole way through, yes,
Speaker 3: but to number two to Caleb Williams mostly off season,
Speaker 3: and now to Marvin Harrison.
Speaker 1: Jam Williams drops two plus three to fifty leak neighbors
Speaker 1: plus seven to fifty.
Speaker 3: If none of those quarterbacks do anything and Marvin Harrison
Speaker 3: keeps like scoring two you know, easy psy touchdowns, I mean,
Speaker 3: one of which was dramatic. I guess yesterday with a dive,
Speaker 3: he will win it. Yeah, he will absolutely win it.
Speaker 1: I think those two, Okay, bold prediction type. I think
Speaker 1: it comes down to these two that are at the
Speaker 1: top right now because it's Jade Daniels obviously is the
Speaker 1: health factor, but he's gonna have the rushing yards, and
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be able to win this
Speaker 1: out over the other quarterbacks that are involved. And then
Speaker 1: like you're talking about wait what I just say about Arizona,
Speaker 1: Like I'm betting overs until like I feel like there's
Speaker 1: a reason to stop with them because the defense is
Speaker 1: terrible and they're gonna They're gonna make the offense continue
Speaker 1: to pass the ball over and over again in these games.
Speaker 1: And Harrison's one of their leading receivers.
Speaker 3: You know what name we didn't mention on this list.
Speaker 3: I'm laughing because you're you're so animated by brock Bowers.
Speaker 3: Twenty five to one. He had a coming out party
Speaker 3: yesterday for the Jets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's even down to twenty one right now this morning,
Speaker 1: So he's getting bet you know.
Speaker 3: You know, you know it's absolutely not winning it. Bow
Speaker 3: Knicks is not winning this.
Speaker 4: He is not.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean that, I like ran to lay
Speaker 1: six and a half of the bucks when I saw
Speaker 1: that opener.
Speaker 4: That is painful, not.
Speaker 3: Unless Sean Payton can whisper louder.
Speaker 1: How did we did? How did this get this guy?
Speaker 1: Get this kid get crowned into the NFL when he
Speaker 1: was like twelve years old? Like, how was he on
Speaker 1: the same career path as like Peyton Manning? Oh bick, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I was, you know, coming out of high school
Speaker 1: into college like he's going to be incredible.
Speaker 3: He was great at Oregon, but it was at no
Speaker 3: point during the season did anybody at least I didn't,
Speaker 3: I'll speak for myself. At no point during the season
Speaker 3: was like, oh there's a pro quarterback. No, no, he did.
Speaker 3: And then when the brug was drafted him twelve you
Speaker 3: I can't believe you can described him as great at Oregon.
Speaker 3: He was, he was, he was, He did what he
Speaker 3: had to do, but it was all short passes, right,
Speaker 3: I'd go very good, okay, on a very good team.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna quibble. I'm not gonna quibble with that.
Speaker 3: The point being, at no point did you think he
Speaker 3: was going to be a great pro quarterback? And you
Speaker 3: know what, do you know he's throwing short passes. We
Speaker 3: couldn't have seen that coming. So funny with Survivor, Like
Speaker 3: I just want to say this again, Survivor. When you're
Speaker 3: involved in Survivor, it's it's really amazing how nothing else matters.
Speaker 3: And with with folks who are listening, it's incredible the
Speaker 3: ratio of Survivor tweets we get versus now, Brian Eaton,
Speaker 3: I'm surprised, you know, for some Vivor none of the
Speaker 3: listeners had mentioned Tampa Bay over Denver. In Week three.
Speaker 3: Jeded O'Connor says, you know, he had one. Oh, Scotty
Speaker 3: B seven twenty six at San Francisco has to be
Speaker 3: a top two Survivor pick. This week, Jed O'Connor talking about,
Speaker 3: you know, how how are people using Christmas plays? I
Speaker 3: use the Texans because I just didn't want to use
Speaker 3: the Chargers. That was a tough week.
Speaker 1: Week two, that was a tough week. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: here's here's the scary part of gil. This week feels
Speaker 1: a whole lot easier.
Speaker 3: With all these options go wrong. What could go wrong?
Speaker 3: Possibly Monday Night Football Falcons at the Eagles tonight, No
Speaker 3: AJ Brown for the Eagles. Seven hundred and eighty five
Speaker 3: Circus survivor entries are on the Eagles, so I will
Speaker 3: be rooting heavily for the Falcons to have seven hundred
Speaker 3: and eighty four entries eliminated.
Speaker 1: Sorry about that, guys, I got no bet, but I
Speaker 1: think I'm with you.
Speaker 3: I have no bet. That'll be my rooting interest. I
Speaker 3: just want to bring up a tweet that we brought
Speaker 3: up last week after the Falcons game. Can we do this?
Speaker 3: This is about This is from Field Yates, and Field
Speaker 3: Yates just accurately said when the Falcons lost to the Steelers.
Speaker 3: This is from ESPN stats and information. The Falcons were
Speaker 3: in pistol against the Steelers last week, or shotgun ninety
Speaker 3: six percent of their snaps in that game ninety six
Speaker 3: percent of the twenty two snaps out of shotgun. The
Speaker 3: Falcons had zero designed runs, so shotgun they telegraphed the
Speaker 3: pass literally right and by the way, this tweet continued
Speaker 3: when they were in pistol, over eighty percent was a run,
Speaker 3: so they were completely predictable. This is this is a
Speaker 3: Zach Robinson, their offensive coordinator, for them to be successful
Speaker 3: against the Eagles. AJ Brown not playing or not for
Speaker 3: the Eagles. On offense, the Falcons have got to be
Speaker 3: more creative, like you just can't like here's what we're
Speaker 3: gonna do saving and stop it, like you gotta be better.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They had videos circulating all week of Kirk taking snaps
Speaker 1: under center that felt a sort of forced almost like, Ay,
Speaker 1: the reporters are out here, takes some snaps under center.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I know one of the reporters that was
Speaker 1: out there wouldn't she wouldn't admit to that, but it was.
Speaker 1: It felt very very planned.
Speaker 3: I mean, I will say this, and I'm weeping because
Speaker 3: I'm so emotional, but I will say this. You know,
Speaker 3: if yesterday was a guide or a lesson to all
Speaker 3: of us and anything, the Falcons shouldn't be this. I mean,
Speaker 3: the Eagles shouldn't be this big of a favorite over
Speaker 3: the Falcons. Correct, they should absolutely not be this big
Speaker 3: of a favorite. I know the Eagles have extra rest here.
Speaker 3: There is that as well heading into this game because
Speaker 3: they played the Friday night game against the Packers lest
Speaker 3: we forget. So there's that. But and it's a home game,
Speaker 3: but I don't think it should be this this big
Speaker 3: of a spread. And you know, I do want to
Speaker 3: bring this up also, and this is just my own
Speaker 3: personal crusade about again, he's a guy who ruptured not
Speaker 3: one but two achilles and everybody saying, well, Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 3: doesn't look as mobile as he has and Kirk Cousin
Speaker 3: certainly did in week one, and oh it's the achilles?
Speaker 3: Are you all the same people who were acting like
Speaker 3: those guys who come back last year? Remember the thing
Speaker 3: with Aaron Rodgers? And I was screaming about that, Yeah,
Speaker 3: like can we talk about these hacked doctors and Aaron
Speaker 3: Rodgers himself who thought he was going to come back
Speaker 3: last year? It was always a and I went crazy
Speaker 3: about it last year and I couldn't stand that. But
Speaker 3: they'll be fine this year. It's just a mental thing
Speaker 3: for them.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: Physically they are okay, they've had enough time there. Their achilles'
Speaker 3: legs are actually physically more intact than they were the
Speaker 3: way that God gave it to them with a surgical
Speaker 3: repair now at this point, so physically it shouldn't be
Speaker 3: an issue over time, but there's going to be a
Speaker 3: mental hurdle to it. Once then they have to get comfortable,
Speaker 3: and you're just human that that that happens with these
Speaker 3: kinds of catastrophic injuries. But they're but you know, but
Speaker 3: they're old, and age was going to be a factor
Speaker 3: any so that's always going to be so with the
Speaker 3: Achilles makes for an easy sort of excuse. But Aaron
Speaker 3: Rodgers is you know, north of forty, so you know
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins will see what he can do. But yes,
Speaker 3: the very first thing about this game, if the Falcons
Speaker 3: are to be successful, you must disguise some stuff on
Speaker 3: the offense for God's sakes.
Speaker 1: They really do. And he was always so successful how
Speaker 1: to play action too, So that's how that part missing
Speaker 1: has been disappointed. He was just looking up. I did
Speaker 1: bet over on DeVante Smith's receiving prop yesterday, was before
Speaker 1: aj Brown news came out, So don't want to give
Speaker 1: a bad number, but I'll tell the I'm just looking
Speaker 1: at the receiving props right now. These do not add
Speaker 1: up fully to what Jalen Hurts is expected to pass for.
Speaker 1: So is some value out there on some overs on the.
Speaker 3: Explain what you just did last thirty seconds? So what
Speaker 3: you did is you you took Jalen Hurts's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just looking at it. What is passing prop
Speaker 1: is two thirty and a half and run.
Speaker 3: Tried to see if the receiving yards added up, and.
Speaker 1: It does not add up. So there are so there
Speaker 1: are some value at least on some over overs on
Speaker 1: these receivers.
Speaker 3: Listening to draftings sometimes that's a very good, simple exercise
Speaker 3: to go through.
Speaker 1: So I kind of just saw the Eagles receivers they
Speaker 1: had listed, and don't get me wrong, this is this
Speaker 1: is part of it.
Speaker 4: They're only listing like four guys.
Speaker 1: You know that more than four guys are going to
Speaker 1: catch a ball.
Speaker 3: I would you know? I would not. I don't have
Speaker 3: a bet right now in the account full disclosure, but
Speaker 3: I would not be surprised if by gametown I have
Speaker 3: a Falcon svet because that's a lot of points. Tonight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll live. I might look live.
Speaker 3: Go on, Kirk Cousins, don't let me down. You've never
Speaker 3: let me down before except for all your years in Washington.
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe not.
Speaker 3: Good luck with all your bets if your bet tonight.
Speaker 3: If you're a survivor player, good luck as well tonight.