WEBVTT - Leisha Hailey Meets World 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:24.319 Well, yeah, we did it. I know, we finally did it. 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:27.640 It's finally happened. We've talked about this from the beginning, right, 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:28.640 and here we are. 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:32.280 We just kept saying, gosh, it's it's almost a perfect podcast. 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:37.720 It's just one nagging thing that's stopping it from being perfect, 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:39.960 and that's right or Strong. 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:43.240 So thankfully he's gone. 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:43.800 It's gone. 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:44.519 We didn't did it. 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:47.760 We did it high by view. He squeezed him out. 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:52.160 Oh god, Oh it's about darn time. 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:59.200 Oh obviously we are joking. We are so going to 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.720 miss our dear friend writer Strong today. But he has 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:08.360 a very good reason for not being here. Should we 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:09.520 talk about jury duty? 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:10.559 He has duty? 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:11.440 He has jury duty. 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:13.639 Have you ever have you ever been a juror? 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:18.600 I have been an alternate once, but didn't make it 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:21.720 to the final like I got cut right before I 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:23.200 got to the Hollywood phase of. 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:25.600 Idol, exactly. You didn't get the golden ticket. 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:28.320 No, And this was when I was still keeping I 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:32.600 was trying to keep my uh Connecticut residency, like my 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:37.200 Connecticut uh resident. I know, what would it be called 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:38.680 my Connecticut status? 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:42.040 My I was still a member of the state. 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:45.160 What would I think, Well, it's not another country. 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:47.360 I know that's trying it. There's a word. I'm just 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:48.520 the words not working. 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:50.559 Buggie parking spot. 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:54.560 Yes, So for years I kept my I voted absentee 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:56.800 out of Connecticut. I had a Connecticut driver's license, and 0:01:56.840 --> 0:02:00.840 I would fly home for jury duty. Oh so I 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:05.680 flew to Connecticut and the first time I did that, 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:06.960 I was sitting there. 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:08.800 I made it all the way to vad Deer. 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:11.320 Okay, which is you know when you go you go there, 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.520 they put you, you know, they put you in a 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:16.640 giant room and then they pick you and they separate 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:18.560 you to go into Then Okay, now you're in a 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.680 courtroom and if there's a case, they're going to essentially 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:25.040 audition you to be a and it's called wa Deer. 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:27.560 So the first thing that happened was they said, okay, 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:29.639 this is we can't say the name of the victim 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:31.640 out loud, so we've written it on a piece of paper. 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:36.360 If anybody, if anybody knows this person, please please speak 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:38.160 up and say that. You know, now, the guy next 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.400 to me, who's probably in his mid forties, is shaking 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:42.320 like a leaf, like I can tell he does not 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:44.440 want to be there. He just wants to get out 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:46.640 of this as fast as possible. The note hits his hand. 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.880 It's him, it's him, he said it was him. The 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:51.760 note hits his hand, he opens it up. He goes, 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:54.640 I know him, I know him known in my whole life. 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:57.080 And the judge's like, wait, really, he goes yep, no, 0:02:57.760 --> 0:02:59.760 he goes, all right, I guess your excuse. Thanks boom, 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:01.960 and guy bails like as fat, like he left a 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:05.960 shaped hole in the door as he ran out of 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.359 the thing. So they get to me and they I 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:09.880 don't know the person. So they sit me up on 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:13.079 the stand and they bring in wait. 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:14.280 They set you up on the stand. 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:16.400 Yes, So they bring us all one at a time 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:18.760 on the stand and the lawyers then get to question 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:20.560 you to see if you're going to be in I 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:21.920 did not have this experience. 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:26.560 Will really does things differently there, Okay, okay? Will They 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:27.959 bring you up onto the stand. 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.320 Up on the stand, and they start asking like you know, 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.040 could you you know where were you? 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:33.280 Yes? 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:33.720 No? 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:36.640 The prosecutors like could you keep an open mind? Can 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:38.440 you do this? If I told that? I'm like, yes, 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:39.040 no problem. 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:43.400 And then the defendant's lawyer gets up and the defendants. 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:47.080 Lawyer is like twenty seven okay, and he's got a 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:49.240 suit on and he's got his clipboard and he says, 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:51.800 mister Fredell, I'd like to start by saying that my 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:54.160 niece and nephew and I are very big fans, and 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:55.640 I'm hoping I can get a photo with you later. 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:58.240 Now, would you be able to? 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.720 And I was like, okay, I guess I just got 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.040 recognized on the stand. 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:08.240 And let me guess that's why you weren't picked. 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:09.360 No, I was. 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.000 Then I made their like we'll put you because they said, 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:13.920 do you is this something you'd want to do? And 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:16.320 I was like, yeah, I would love to kind of 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.600 sit on a jury. Yes, And so they said, well, 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.200 we'll pick you as an alternate. And so I got 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:23.120 them already. You know, my parents are in the court 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.240 system there, so you know they might judgment said, I 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:26.920 know you're. 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:32.040 Like, they're so proud of you made it. 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:35.479 Insure you made it. I don't care about your television shows. 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:36.200 You've made it. 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:39.920 So the judge is like, I know your parents. I 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:41.279 you know, I know I don't have to tell you 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.240 not to talk to anybody. You'll be fine. So I 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.400 get home that night and we all the jurors got 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:47.479 to call from the judge saying they settled the case, 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:48.160 we don't need you. 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:51.360 So I was like so close. And then I've been 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:52.680 called four. 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:56.960 Times in Los Angeles when I switched my residency right 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.960 I was looking for I was called four different times. 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:01.760 I've only had to go in once and I was 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:03.680 released the first day and the other three times you 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:04.960 just call in and they said I didn't have to 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:05.360 show up. 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.560 So no, I've never actually been have you Have you 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:08.800 done it? Have you been on a jury? 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:11.400 I was on a jury and I was the foreman. 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:16.279 No, well, first of all, of course you were. Of 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.680 course you were the foreman. Wow, you didn't even have 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:22.239 to tell me that. Of course you were the foreman. 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:23.200 What happened? 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:25.760 So it was the first time I had ever been 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:29.000 called for jury duty. And I was like in my 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.560 mid twenties, and I got called and I called in. 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:33.600 And actually, at the time, you didn't even call in. 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:35.919 You just had to go. You just had to show up. 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:37.240 Now you can at least call and they'll tell you 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.000 whether or not they need you to show up. So 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:41.680 I went and I you know, we went through a 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:44.000 similar process of the can you keep an open mind. 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:46.039 But it was done more like as a group, like 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:48.039 they asked us all individually, but we were sitting in 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:50.320 the jury box, okay, and so they just kind of 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:52.080 went down the line like can you do that, can 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:53.719 you do this? Can you and was like yes, yes, yes. 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:57.360 And there were a bunch of questions about we could 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:01.000 tell it was going to have something to do with insurance, 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:04.320 and it was like have you ever been in a 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:08.520 bad car accident? Have you ever been you know, injured 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:11.159 in an accident? Like there were so I could tell like, oh, 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:13.080 I know where this is going, where we're headed. 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:16.680 And then yeah, I got selected to be on the jury. 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.039 And were you happy? Did you want to be on 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:19.480 the jury? 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:19.720 Yeah. 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.440 I mean at the time I was a little like, oh, wow, 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:26.120 I guess I'm really doing this, But yes, I was excited. 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:27.760 I was like, Wow, this is going to be interesting. 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:29.880 And I was looking at it like I went into 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:32.400 it thinking great, I'm going to just be I'm going 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:33.359 to watch how they do it. 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:35.840 I'm going to learn kind of the way I. 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:39.360 Sat and watched Bonnie work with David to figure out 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:41.920 how to be an actor. I was like, I'm going 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:43.960 to sit in this jury room and learn how to 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.160 be a juror by watching all these other people. And 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:48.560 a lot of the people in the jury room had 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:50.080 already been jurors. They were like, oh, yeah, I've been 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:52.360 doing this for a long time. And one guy at 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:54.440 the time that we had to select the foreman was like, 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:55.760 is this anybody's first time? 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:58.840 And I was like, oh, no, fine, and he. 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:00.400 Was like, great, you should be the fore and then 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:03.160 you should do it because this is a great learning opportunity. 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:05.240 And I was like, this is exact opposite of what 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:05.960 I was thinking. 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:09.880 I was thinking, I'm Manube, I should be just sitting 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:11.640 in the back. But I ended up being the foreman. 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:13.000 It was pretty great. 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.720 And yeah, we went to trial and we had to 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:19.760 decide a dollar amount there. It had been a woman 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.320 who was in a pretty severe car accident and she 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:28.840 was asking for insurance to cover physical therapy and other 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:31.800 types of treatment for her for the rest of her life. 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:36.480 But the caveat to that was that she had already 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:40.160 been in a previous accident where she had also been injured, 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.800 and so it was trying to decide like, is this 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:48.360 accident the reason the sole reason you need pet. 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:49.160 For the rest of your life. 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:51.440 So we ended up we ended up having to decide 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.640 on a dollar amount that we awarded her that was 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:57.720 supposed to then hopefully cover pt for if not the 0:07:57.760 --> 0:07:59.640 rest of her life, for a very long period of time, 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:00.320 for the rest for life. 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:01.520 But anyway, it was very interesting. 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.760 So did anybody recognize you? Was anybody like, oh, my god, 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:05.280 topangas on my jury. 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.040 Not that I know of. No, nobody told me there. 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:12.320 I was the youngest person there by twenty years or something, 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:15.760 and uh yeah, and you know I was in my 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:17.600 mid twenties. So it was it was really fun. 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:19.000 I actually super enjoyed it. 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:20.920 Uh, that's great. No, I've never been on the jury, 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.960 been on trial. It's never been on right of course. 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.080 Well, we know you're a murderer. 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:30.280 Exactly, but actually acquitted, so a used murderer. 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.080 How dare I do not confuse the two. 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:35.160 I'd once again like to point out that that was 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:38.760 our best, easiest, funniest pre show chatter. 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.120 Every Yeah, no hang ups, nobody telling. 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:44.280 Hang ups, no telling why we're wrong or we're having 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:44.920 too much fun. 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:49.439 Yeah, correcting our grammar, that kind of stuff. 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:53.000 I did miss a Hume mentioned though, right, I don't 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:56.000 know what the philosophy of everything again? 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:57.920 But this is why we now will get words like 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:02.160 residency of kid because we don't have writer. 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:07.840 They're going no grappling hooks. I don't know. I think. 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:09.920 Let's see, let's see how the rest of this episode goes. 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:13.520 How many times can this one kid smelt metal? I'm sorry, but. 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.400 All before the age of eighteen telling you it's a 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:23.199 logical question. He still never made me anything has made 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.120 Jemmy no unbelievable. 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:28.000 Aggravated, but that he's been doing since I was a kid. 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:33.240 So come on, Welcome to Pond meets World. 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:36.640 I'm Danielle Fischel, I'm Wilfredell And that's it. 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:38.720 That's it, that's it. That's our show today. 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:44.080 Guys, oh man, miss all right, walk up to most 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:48.000 any nineties kid and utter the two words shallow boy 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:52.280 and watch as a wave of nostalgia, alongside a catchy 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:56.040 melody in some hysterical lyrics take over their entire being. 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:58.560 And as much as anyone on the daily cast and 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:00.880 crew of Boy Meets World would love to take credit 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:04.240 for the long lasting effect of this episode and character, CORNA. 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:07.600 Collins has had on a generation, we all know it's 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:11.040 mostly because of a guest star who stole every single 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:14.400 scene she was in. While it was somehow her first 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:18.640 TV gig ever, before the appearance, she was one half 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:22.040 of the Boy Meets World cast favorite pop duo The Murmurs, 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.640 who released several albums and was part of the legendary 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:29.800 nineties tour Lilith Fair. Our very own Alanis Morissett walked 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:32.320 onto the set and, with what we can only assume 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:36.120 is a sorcery reserved for guitar playing wizards, seemed to 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:39.600 be a seasoned and confident pro who with our Powell 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:44.120 will here made undeniable TV magic, and for good reason, 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:47.280 she's been one of the most requested guests for Pod 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:50.319 Meets World, not only from our listeners, but from US 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.240 hosts as well. She'd leave us in Chubbies and appear 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:57.160 on shows like Grey's Anatomy, Supernatural, Bosh, and Silicon Valley, 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:59.760 but it was her time as Alice on the ground 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:02.800 brink making show The L Word where she'd become an 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:06.600 LGBTQ icon, all for a role she'd later revisit on 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:10.280 the reboot L Word Generation Q And So now get 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:13.600 out your twenty dollars bills to donate and then rescind. 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:17.040 We are honored to welcome to Podmeates World a guest 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:20.320 star Hall of Famer, maybe the guest Star Hall of 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:33.960 Famer Leisha Haley. 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:38.800 Hi, Hi, I have one quick question right off the bat. 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.720 Yes, is there a painting of yourself somewhere in your 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:42.720 attic that's aging? 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:43.600 Because you're not. 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:49.960 Did you wrote yourself when you fell from heaven? 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:54.160 An angel pickup line? 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:57.040 She hasn't aged. 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.200 I was a lot older than all of you when 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:03.679 I was on this show, so you know, I think 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:07.120 I've always been old, So I think that the perspective. 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:10.599 Is you're that much older than you. 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.320 No, there's no way that much older older than will No, 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:14.680 what's your birth year? 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:16.319 Seventy one? 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.840 I'm okay, seventy six. I'm forty seven. 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:23.640 Yeah, okay, okay, too much, not too much. Look at 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:26.280 you guys just playing teenagers. 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:27.560 Look at us. 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:27.839 Well. 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.679 I watched I watched the show last night because I 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:32.680 was really looking forward to because I haven't seen it 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:36.360 in the million years, and like thirty, right to be 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:40.040 exact about thirty, yeah, thirty. And one of my lines 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:43.880 I said I was eighteen, and I said, laughing, like wow. 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:48.160 I mean, the truth is, though you could still play 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:55.160 a teenager. I love hitting you really could glasses, perfect vision. 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:56.880 Hi. 0:12:57.240 --> 0:13:00.040 We are so happy to see you. Thank you so 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:05.360 much for doing this. You one of our most requested guests, 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.400 not just from fans, you are one of the most 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:09.599 requested from. 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.160 Us as hosts. Really. 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:13.720 Yeah, Oh, I'm so glad this's happened. 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.360 We've been looking forward to it from the time we 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:19.200 started the show, and we've talked about it a couple 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:22.280 of times. How Boy Meets World had some really great 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:24.680 guest stars over the seven years the show was on, 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:31.000 but there are a handful of just perfect drive by 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:35.040 guest star appearances, and you, I think are the number 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:35.720 one spot. 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:38.839 I don't disagree with that. Yeah, I don't disagree with that. 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:39.800 We were trying to think of. 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.160 I mean, there's a couple up there that were really great, 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.240 but this is the one where, you know, convention stuff 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:49.400 like that, people talk about Shallo Boy and the songs 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:50.840 and all the kind of stuff. 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:51.920 Oh all the time. 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.240 I mean, one of these conventions with you guys, because 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.120 I have to say, through the years, I've had a 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:02.520 really strange, exciting like I mean, I hate the word 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:06.960 blessed but like Blessed Life and I this show, I 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.240 had no idea what I was walking into when I 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:12.920 did it, and for the last thirty years, if somebody 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:17.080 stops me, I assume it's one thing, and then it's like, well, 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:19.560 I mean its worlds and it's just always makes me 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:23.640 laugh because it was one episode and I'm like, what, Oh, yeah, 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.520 you guys really have the greatest fans on the planet. 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.000 I think we couldn't agree with you more. We have 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:33.120 talked about that as well. We do we can confirm, 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:36.280 and now we need you to confirm something. Oh okay 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:40.560 before we even go forward. Was this really your first 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:41.480 job on TV? 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:41.920 Ever? 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.200 It was my Yes, it was. And I had to 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:49.880 call my bandmate because I asked. I asked your producers 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:54.120 what year we did this, because I couldn't remember the 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:58.400 process of getting the job, and I realized you said 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.160 it was like August or September of nineteen ninety six, 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.520 and I had just moved to La like I must 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:08.440 have been there maybe three months. So everything in my 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:12.160 memory is the whole city was foreign to me. So 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:16.680 just like where what office was I in? Who called? 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:17.160 Who? 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.400 Like how did I you know, how did the whole 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:24.360 thing happen, and I think I've figured it out. I had, 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:26.120 but to answer your question, that was a long way 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:29.920 of answering. I did an indie movie the year before 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:32.760 called All Over Me, and I had I was in 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:36.960 a band, the Murmurs, Yes, the Murmurs, and I had 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.920 bright pink hair, like hot pink hair for years, and 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.720 I had it in this movie. And iber one of 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:45.040 my memories is it might have been your showrunner. I 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:46.400 don't know who it was. I met. It was a 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:50.160 really nice man and I think he called after seeing 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:52.760 me in that movie and had me come in to 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:55.520 read for it, because I remember him saying like, oh, 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:57.840 I thought you had pink hair, and I just I 0:15:57.840 --> 0:15:59.800 had just gotten rid of it when I moved to La. 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.160 Well, there was one of our producers I saw two 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:05.680 days ago. We just had dinner, and he remembers because 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:07.000 I told him you were coming on and he's like, 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:10.200 oh my god, that's so great. He remembers taking one 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:13.640 or two other producers and going and seeing you guys 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:14.440 perform live. 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:16.120 You just solved it. 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.960 Yeah, he says he went to actually went to a show, 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:21.960 he said, because one of the things he remembers, and 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:23.040 we can cut this out if we want. 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:24.880 Is your bandmate fell off the stage? 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:31.800 She Oh, my gosh, yeah, he said, it's like and 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:33.960 then she just fell off right off the stage. 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.640 So do you know now exactly what show that is? 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.040 Or my god? No, I feel like at the time 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:46.400 like that might have been happy, you know, Okay, this, wow, 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:50.760 this is hilarious. No, we were. Yeah, we had a 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:56.240 lot of fun on wait first to better her than Me. 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:56.960 Yeah. 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:59.800 It was Jeff Sherman and Mark Blutman, the two of them, 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:02.720 and they think one other guy went. It might have 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:05.119 been Howard bust Gang, but they went actually went to 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:08.359 your show and saw the Murmurs perform and they he 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:11.399 was like, we knew right the second that's her. 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:15.440 That's her obviously, So that's amazing. That's amazing. 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:19.600 Had you moved to LA partially to start auditioning? Were 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:20.680 you looking to be an actor? 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:25.000 Well, I studied when I'm from Nebraska, and I moved 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:27.639 to New York to go to acting school. So that 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.040 was my big plan. I'd done it my whole life, 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:33.879 and I studied and I just thought that that was 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:36.520 going to be my career. And then my best friend 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:39.959 and I started a band in school. And when we graduated, 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.080 we were so broke and we're like, we ought to start. 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:45.480 Nobody was auditioning, nobody knew how to get an agent. 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:49.680 So we just started playing the subways and like every 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.280 street corner we could, Like I always had my guitar 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:55.439 on my back. We were a little acoustic duo and 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:59.800 we started playing all around the East Village and all 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:02.240 of it sudden, like two years in we got signed. 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:06.200 So I it was MCAA Records, and so all of 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:08.720 a sudden, I had this career, this music career I 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.520 had never planned on, and I kind of put acting 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:15.280 to the side. So that's why when this show came up, 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:18.199 like you guys were sort of my foray into like 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:20.560 getting back into it or starting at least. 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:24.600 Yeah, Oh my gosh, it is just so so had 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:26.320 you when you came to our show. 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:28.600 Had you ever heard of Boy Meets World? 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:33.560 I had not heard of Boy. I think I just 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:36.560 was out of the age range, you know, because I 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:38.639 when I was watching it last night, I was I 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:41.240 literally was laughing. I was like, this is a really 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:44.320 well written show. It was funny. 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:45.520 It's a funny show. 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:46.320 Well you were. 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:49.119 Funny, Oh thank you? I mean, well, you and I. 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:52.000 So we'll get into how you and I I thought 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:54.600 worked really well together. And I just remember getting along 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:56.840 that week because we were working on our scenes and 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:59.399 you were talking to me about music. But before we 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:02.480 get there, we have talked so many times about the 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:06.840 table read because the table read for that episode, we'd 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:08.760 never met you. We didn't know who was coming in, 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:12.879 and you brought your guitar and you sung every song 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:17.240 acoustic at the table read, and you were so cool 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:21.439 and so collected and calm and singing. So I'm curious 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:23.800