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Speaker 1: He has duty?

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Speaker 1: Have you ever have you ever been a juror?

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Speaker 2: No, And this was when I was still keeping I

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Speaker 3: So it was the first time I had ever been

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Speaker 4: I'm Danielle Fischel, I'm Wilfredell And that's it.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Hi, I have one quick question right off the bat.

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Speaker 2: Yes, is there a painting of yourself somewhere in your

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Speaker 4: Because you're not.

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Speaker 1: Did you wrote yourself when you fell from heaven?

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Speaker 4: An angel pickup line?

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Speaker 1: She hasn't aged.

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Speaker 3: No, there's no way that much older older than will No,

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Speaker 4: I'm okay, seventy six. I'm forty seven.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, okay, too much, not too much. Look at

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Speaker 6: you guys just playing teenagers.

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Speaker 6: I watched I watched the show last night because I

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Speaker 3: I mean, the truth is, though you could still play

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Speaker 6: Hi.

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Speaker 3: We are so happy to see you. Thank you so

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Speaker 3: much for doing this. You one of our most requested guests,

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Speaker 4: Us as hosts. Really.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Oh, I'm so glad this's happened.

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Speaker 4: I don't disagree with that. Yeah, I don't disagree with that.

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Speaker 6: I mean, one of these conventions with you guys, because

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Speaker 3: I think we couldn't agree with you more. We have

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Speaker 3: before we even go forward. Was this really your first

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Speaker 6: It was my Yes, it was. And I had to

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Speaker 2: Well, there was one of our producers I saw two

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Speaker 6: You just solved it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he says he went to actually went to a show,

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Speaker 3: Had you moved to LA partially to start auditioning? Were

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Speaker 6: I had not heard of Boy. I think I just

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Speaker 1: It's a funny show.

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Speaker 2: So we'll get into how you and I I thought

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Speaker 4: It was weird.

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Speaker 3: Well, not only did you not seem nervous, but like

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 6: I remember getting uh yeah, the lyrics and sitting around

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Speaker 2: other night, and he was like, please tell her that

445
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 2: essentially we wrote songs together, because yes, she wrote the

446
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 2: music and I wrote the lyrics.

447
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 1: Yes, and uncle and dad are the Sherman brothers, the.

448
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 2: Sherman brothers who wrote all the Disney music, wrote Mary

449
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 2: Poppins and all you know for what's.

450
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Jeff Sherman's he comes from a very musical family,

451
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 3: like the famous Sherman brothers. No, it's just cool because

452
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 3: it makes sense that that was a Sherman episode and

453
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 3: that you being the talented musician and actor that you were,

454
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 3: that it was just it's literally a perfect storm.

455
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 4: Yeah were it really was.

456
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 1: Look at that.

457
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 6: I see, That's why I love life so awesome. Yeah, Okay,

458
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 6: so I went to his house and we recorded it.

459
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 6: Okay maybe, oh, I don't know for a studio.

460
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 4: It was probably a studio. My guess is you probably

461
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,919
Speaker 4: went to probably Ray cole Chords.

462
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 1: It might have been with Jeff.

463
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be so rad.

464
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 2: Did all our music from He's passed since, but he

465
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 2: was a great guy who did all our music from

466
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 2: from Boy and everything from the theme songs to the

467
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 2: tiniest little jingle that you would hear, he was responsible

468
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 2: for in some way or another. So my guess is

469
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,360
Speaker 2: music wise, yeah, you you and Jeff met up somewhere

470
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 2: and combined your talents because it was oh man, we

471
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 2: just but I'll never that's that table read. I think

472
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 2: there's two table reads in the entire series that stand

473
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 2: out for me, and it's that one and the one

474
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 2: the Fugitive when we had the earthquake right right, and

475
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 2: it was the day after the earthquake, and we had

476
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 2: the massive earthquake, and so that a.

477
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 4: Natural disease, remember from the show, and only one of.

478
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: You killed people, So that's a lot.

479
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 6: I don't want that on my record.

480
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: No, No, I know, we've talked you.

481
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 3: We just mentioned that you don't have like too many

482
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 3: memories of exactly how it all came together. But do

483
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 3: you remember in any sense was there like a traditional audition.

484
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 3: Did you go to a building and like read lines

485
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 3: for someone?

486
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 6: This is where so I was in a building, Okay,

487
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 6: I can't confirm, yes, and I was. I was in

488
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 6: an office with I believe Jeff who you were just mentioning,

489
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 6: because I remember, there's no way they didn't have me

490
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 6: read for it, even if they saw me play a mess,

491
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 6: so I must have read for it. And then we

492
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 6: started talking about music, because that's the part of the

493
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 6: conversation I remember. So maybe it just had to, like,

494
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 6: you know, confirm that I could read lines or something,

495
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 6: or that I could pull off I don't know, because

496
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 6: maybe he knew I could do the music part.

497
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, Well Michael Jacobs, our producer and show runner,

498
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 2: was also very big into music, so he was probably

499
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 2: involved in all that as well.

500
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I wonder if she auditioned first and then Jeff

501
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 3: and Howard and Mark went to the.

502
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 4: Show the show. I wonder if that's how it happened.

503
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the part I can't figure out. But I

504
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 6: know that they wouldn't have just there's no way I've

505
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 6: just been offered a part, you know, So somehow I

506
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 6: had to prove myself somewhere. Yeah, isn't that funny? Thirty

507
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 6: years just you guys have a really sharp memory. Oh no, no, no, Janel,

508
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 6: thank you.

509
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: Will does have a very good memory.

510
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 3: I once ran into shack somewhere and was like, Hi,

511
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 3: it's really nice to meet you, and he was like, Danielle,

512
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 3: I once held you over my head at Universal Studios

513
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 3: in Florida, and I was like.

514
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 1: Oh, well that could be the case.

515
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 4: So yeah, I always remind me.

516
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 6: Think you'd remember right exactly exactly you.

517
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 2: Remind Danielle she was on Boy Met World. It's like

518
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 2: you placed the panga.

519
00:24:58,920 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 4: You were very good.

520
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 6: I felt better about myself. Yeah, thank you, you're here.

521
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, do not do not worry.

522
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 3: So then you are basically we do a table read

523
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 3: and you're just thrown right into the mix for the week.

524
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: What do you remember from rehearsals and then eventually our

525
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 1: tape night?

526
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 6: Well, Will, I have to say you were like the

527
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 6: kindest person to me. You really I have to like

528
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 6: give you like full credit for being a really nice

529
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 6: guy and so welcoming and supportive, because I I'm sure

530
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 6: at that point I remember being like, oh, okay, this

531
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 6: is like a TV show. I get it, Like I've

532
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 6: never done this. Yeah, you were so great and we

533
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 6: did really work on everything and try to find that

534
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 6: like sweet little dynamic.

535
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 3: We had we really agree between you.

536
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: Is just impeccable. It's so great.

537
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 4: I thought so too. No, we did.

538
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 2: We I remember distinctly well. You always had your guitar.

539
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: And I'm one of those people where I'm such a

540
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 2: fan of music and I have no musical talent whatsoever,

541
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 2: just none, So I'm always I gravitate towards people that do.

542
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 2: And you were just kind of sit there and you'd

543
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 2: strum your guitar, you'd sing a song or and that

544
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 2: week Danielle went out and got me the Murmurs album,

545
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 2: which I still listen to quite a bit.

546
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 4: It is. It's a great album, the Pink album with

547
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 4: I'm a Mess.

548
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So I You and I

549
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 2: we would talk music and then we talk about the

550
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: scenes and go through it. I just remember we got

551
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: along very well, and that I think showed when we

552
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 2: did the show.

553
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 4: You know, frankly, it's so important.

554
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 6: I always think that you can see through that stuff too,

555
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 6: Like I think we really did have something natural.

556
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 4: I think so too.

557
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 2: It was the thing that amazed all of us was

558
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 2: the you know, the music stuff was incredible, but you

559
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: were a musician. It was the comedy stuff that I

560
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 2: think what we were all. I mean, I was not

561
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: gonna say shocked because you an actor, but also happy

562
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: with because it was like you were nailing all the

563
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: jokes and it was just like, oh, okay, this is.

564
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: And now that I had trained, it makes sense.

565
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

566
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, it had been a minute. But like like I

567
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 6: how to listen, talk and listen, but I you your comedy,

568
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 6: Like when you yelled check the third time, like last night,

569
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 6: I was like like it was so you're so funny

570
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 6: it like actually makes me want to go watch the show, Like, yeah,

571
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 6: these people are really talented.

572
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: He's worth watching. That's for sure.

573
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 4: You are too, Danielle.

574
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: I'm barely on the show. What do you tut? Really?

575
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it's it is very shocking, but we

576
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 3: are now. Season four is the is the first year

577
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: I'm in every episode and even then most of the

578
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 3: time I'm kind of, uh, just in the periphery type character.

579
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 3: But those first three seasons, in my mind, it was like, you.

580
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 2: Know, it is it's a Mandela effect thing with because

581
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: everybody thinks Corey and Tapango when they Inkopoyments World and

582
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 2: we're watching and we're like, where the hell.

583
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: Are you am I hosting this podcast?

584
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, and then but I think by season five

585
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 2: it's all Corey Tanga and then there's two seasons of

586
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: just the two of you essentially.

587
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:19,239
Speaker 4: Right, So but yeah, I can't wait. We're getting there.

588
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 4: We're getting there. That's why we have to keep reminding

589
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 4: her you're on the show.

590
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 6: But imagine like like that says a lot, like if

591
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 6: you weren't on it a lot, but the impact you

592
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 6: had and everyone assumes you were, Like that's very telling.

593
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 6: Is when you're on screen, you.

594
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 1: Couldn't keep yes exactly. Thank you rivoting. I'm rivoting on yes.

595
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 3: So when your episode then aired, did you watch it live?

596
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: Did you tell people about it? What did your friends think?

597
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 6: What are you kidding?

598
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: Of course.

599
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 6: You guys, I'm on TV.

600
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: We're watching.

601
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, like nobody was doing that back then. We were.

602
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 6: It was shocking to all of us. Yeah, we had,

603
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 6: we had I had some friends of her and we

604
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 6: all watched it and it was great. I mean it

605
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 6: was it's so weird to see yourself for the first time.

606
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 6: Also watching last night, like I was a baby. Yes,

607
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 6: I know, so, but I was twenty I was twenty

608
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 6: I think twenty five yeah, it's crazy gosh, but still

609
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 6: just a babyface.

610
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: Does it feel to you like somebody else? Because sometimes

611
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 3: that's how I feel. I'll watch it and I'll think, yes,

612
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 3: I know that girl. She feels like someone I knew once.

613
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 3: But it does feel like someone.

614
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 6: I knew once, is a great way to put it. Yes,

615
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 6: I seemed very I mean I know I was leaning

616
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 6: into that, very wide eyed and you know, innocent. But

617
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 6: I think I might have been like that in general.

618
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: Right, But it wasn't too far from home.

619
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 6: It really were Yeah, it never really is, is it.

620
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, But it's so funny because again I go back

621
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: to the album that I listened to all the time.

622
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 4: Those songs don't represent being wide eyed and innocent.

623
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,239
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, the funny thing about our album we

624
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 6: were actually wor like we had a hit song called

625
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 6: you Suck, and that was what everybody thought, like we

626
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 6: were this edgy Maybe that's kind of what they saw

627
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 6: with the character. Everyone thought we were this edgy band.

628
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 6: But then when you listen to the rest of the record,

629
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 6: it's like no, no, no, no, Like I'll never forget going

630
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 6: on tour and you would go from city to city

631
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 6: and everyone was you know, there to hear the big

632
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 6: hit song and then you'd play the rest if you

633
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 6: could just feel the room shift, like, oh well.

634
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: I thought we were gonna get more you sucks.

635
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, we're thos edgy girls.

636
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 3: There's a part in the episode where Eric's sister Morgan

637
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 3: is singing along to one of Korinna's new songs, and

638
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 3: she mentions as she's singing along that there's a lyric

639
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: in it that you know, Eric might like boys, if

640
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, And it's a

641
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 3: trope we've run into a few times during our rewatch.

642
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 3: There was obviously a lot of gay panic in symcoms

643
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: in the nineties. Yea, And actually, to Boy Meets World's credit,

644
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 3: it was actually much better and most things really hold up,

645
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: so to its credit, but it still pops up. Do

646
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 3: you remember this line or do you remember this type

647
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: of fear on TV?

648
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: You know?

649
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 6: And like that, you know, we have this with the

650
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 6: show I was on too, Like it's that we were

651
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 6: in the times we were in. You can't like Monday

652
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 6: morning quarterbacking is just it's you can't do it because

653
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 6: that's just the way the world was, you know, And

654
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 6: so you know, I think you guys probably feel this too.

655
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 6: You have this responsibility to like the lines you said,

656
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 6: or you know, the way your character responded to something

657
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 6: or but you know, the writers were also of the times,

658
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 6: and the show was of the times, and we can

659
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 6: all look back and judge it, but like, right, you know, yeah,

660
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 6: I don't. Yeah, it never. It didn't bump for me then,

661
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 6: and last night I was like, oh, they have one.

662
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 6: They have them too, like we all we all have them.

663
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 4: We do, we do, we all.

664
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: But that was I mean, especially in the nineties, that

665
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: was when you were insulting your friend or getting insulted.

666
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 4: That's what it was.

667
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: It was, yeah something calling them gay was like, oh,

668
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: you gotta be kidding me.

669
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, it was.

670
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 2: I'm very happy actually with the way Boy Meets World

671
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: handled it ninety nine percent of the time.

672
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 4: Like the bromance between Sean and Corey.

673
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: They never they don't ever make fun of like you

674
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: know what I mean, they're not they're not playing on

675
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: that trope.

676
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: They lean so heavy into that it's a real love

677
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 3: and it's between these two friends and and it's never

678
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I one of my favorite lines is when

679
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 3: Tipanga asks Corey and Sean like, why don't you too,

680
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 3: just why don't you too just get married? And they

681
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 3: look at each other and Corey says, because our kids

682
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 3: would look like a horse.

683
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: It's like it has nothing.

684
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 3: To It's like you contemplated it. He decides, did their

685
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 3: kids wouldn't be cute? And yeah, it's just that's it.

686
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 6: That's the reason to handle.

687
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: Uh so, yeah, we boys world does it better than most.

688
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 3: Have you ever been asked to play Shallow Boy live?

689
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 6: I have not. No, I have not. If if I

690
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 6: see here, I go, I would have prepped. If you

691
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 6: guys were after we weren't.

692
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: We weren't were.

693
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 3: I would never put you on the spot like that's

694
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 3: a please bring your wondering when you do, because you're

695
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 3: still performing. You haven't your I don't know. Actually I

696
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 3: was gonna say a new band, but I don't know

697
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 3: how new your band is.

698
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 6: Uh huh, well actually that's over to I'm done with

699
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 6: the music. But yeah that are you totally done with music?

700
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

701
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 6: I just you know, yeah, I play it, you know

702
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 6: for fun at this Okay, I can't ever go. Let

703
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 6: me try to have a music career again. Feels a little.

704
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: Well, now, it's a perfect opportunity to prep in hair.

705
00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 3: Shallow Boy, I'm we're doing for a live show, so

706
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 3: just start doing the fun stuff.

707
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 6: You know exactly, that's the whole cool fun stuff. Yeah.

708
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 6: Maybe if I come to one of these conventions with

709
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 6: you guys.

710
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: Yes, please come to a whole live show.

711
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 6: I know. There we go.

712
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: Well, you come to one of our podmets World l.

713
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 6: She goes live, she goes just back.

714
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. Oh we might have to We might

715
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 4: hold you to that.

716
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 2: We might hold you to that because our live shows

717
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: will get a theater that's you know, one thousand people,

718
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: twelve hundred people, and we bring people out and we just.

719
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 4: Have so much fun. Such a live shallow Boy refer Yeah.

720
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 6: Call me up, Call me up.

721
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: So soon after you were on our show, you were

722
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: in the scene of Ellen's sitcom when she came out

723
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 3: on Network TV.

724
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 6: Well this is this, Yeah, this is like a funny thing.

725
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 6: So I my girlfriend at the time, was on that

726
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 6: in that episode, okay, and I just came along to

727
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 6: watch the taping and they just threw me in the

728
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 6: coffee shop while she was.

729
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: And you were like, yes, I'll be a background actor.

730
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 6: And I didn't even know it. Was going to be

731
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 6: as big of a deal as it that's the actual episode.

732
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 6: But yeah, I'm like, somehow in that episode as an

733
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 6: extra it is.

734
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 3: So funny and I can imagine that of course, Actually

735
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I can understand. I mean, that was

736
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 3: an episode that like stops Earth's orbit of the Sun

737
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 3: at the time. Yes, and yet you're saying at the

738
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 3: time you didn't really think about that. You just felt like, oh, yeah,

739
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 3: this is a my girlfriend's here and is doing a

740
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 3: guest appearance, and this will be an episode that Arizon TV.

741
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 6: Did you Yeah, I know, I know it was a

742
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 6: big deal that Ellen was coming out. I was very

743
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 6: conscious of that. I think I didn't know that the

744
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 6: effect it was going to have in the world, like

745
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 6: and also her career, and you know, just the response. Yeah,

746
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 6: and it just goes down in history that episode.

747
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 4: My god, Yeah, that's what it is.

748
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 2: A it is a pretty magical moment in all of

749
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: television history. Yes, and the girlfriend you had at the time,

750
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: if it's the one I think it is, almost killed me.

751
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 4: What do you mean, well, she almost ran me over

752
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 4: with her car.

753
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 6: Okay, please tell this story.

754
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 4: So can we say who I think?

755
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, Katie Lang.

756
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,919
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, so she almost killed me with her car.

757
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 6: Okay, I can't I'm horrified right now.

758
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's not your fault.

759
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 2: There was a restaurant in Burbank at the time, which

760
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 2: I still think is there called Micelli's or Michelli's where

761
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 2: all the waiters sing and.

762
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 4: They sing right.

763
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I was leaving there at the time with

764
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 2: I think my girlfriend at the time.

765
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 6: Is this when it's like nothing to do At the time,

766
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 6: we were working together. It's like a.

767
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 4: Totally separate thing after.

768
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 6: Okay, good maybe anyway.

769
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 4: Totally separate thing after So I'm with.

770
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 1: What love, Hewitt?

771
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 4: I think? So, okay, I don't know. It might have

772
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 4: been I was with love.

773
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 2: I don't remember, but I'm crossing the street and I

774
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: probably was crossing against the light and a car screeches

775
00:36:58,760 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 2: to a stop.

776
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 5: Oh god, a foot from me, and I look up

777
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 5: and it's Katie Lang and she gives me this look

778
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 5: where at first she's like I can't believe, and then

779
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 5: her face kind of brightens and she waves.

780
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 4: And I left and she drove by.

781
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 2: So either she recognized me from the show we did together,

782
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: or was just happy she didn't throw me over.

783
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: What did you think this was?

784
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 4: Well, it's only like ninety seven.

785
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, we were was I wasn't in the passenger seat,

786
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 6: was I know she.

787
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: Was driving by herself, but it was we followed you.

788
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 2: It was a moment where I then walk ay and

789
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: I was like, Katie Lang almost killed me.

790
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 4: That I almost just died and it would have been

791
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 4: on the news for a number of reasons. Yeah.

792
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: So what a weird way to go, right, Yeah, she.

793
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 4: She almost ran me over.

794
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever told that story before, but

795
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: Katie Lang almost ran me over.

796
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,240
Speaker 4: That is so funny.

797
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 6: Glad you're here to tell about it.

798
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly.

799
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

800
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you too about Lilith Fair, which

801
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 3: is such an iconic tour of the nineties.

802
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: What was your experience like traveling with that lineup?

803
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 6: Oh my god, it was incredible. So we we tried

804
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 6: to get on that tour for I think three years,

805
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 6: and the year we got was the year our label

806
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 6: dropped us, so we they wouldn't pay to have us

807
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 6: do it, so we only could afford to go on

808
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 6: it for like I think it was like eight days.

809
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 6: We did the West some of the West Coast and

810
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 6: yourself to go and we rent We had to tell

811
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 6: all the guys in the band for like we can't

812
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 6: afford you, you got to stay back. We went fully acoustic again,

813
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 6: rented a car and took our manager, this sweet woman Kimberly.

814
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 6: Were like, you have to do the most of the

815
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 6: driving and the like, you know, and we'll do the

816
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 6: right Like it was. It was like a team effort.

817
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 6: We stayed in like really bad motels the whole way

818
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 6: up and down, and you know, the hour the drives

819
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 6: were along, like everyone else was in a bus like.

820
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: You guys are getting.

821
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 6: Happy to be like a part of Lilith Fair. It

822
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 6: was like a dream. So we did whatever it took

823
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 6: and got to hang out with all the like all

824
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 6: the greats backstage.

825
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 4: Who was on tour with you at the time there?

826
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 6: Okay, it was like Bonnie Ray the Dixie Chicks were there.

827
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 6: Oh my god, this was there was no okay, not

828
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,959
Speaker 6: that one. I think this was the last Lilith Fair.

829
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 6: I think it was the last year they did it. Yeah,

830
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 6: Chrissy Hind, I mean please just we would just sit

831
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 6: there with our jaws dropped, like are we really here?

832
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: This is crazy?

833
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 6: Let's just Jackson, I don't know.

834
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 4: Yeah.

835
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 3: Then in two thousand and four, you were cast on

836
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 3: the groundbreaking TV show The l Word and you played

837
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 3: Alice Pizki.

838
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: Am I say Piazeki?

839
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you Alice Piazeki, a bisexual journalist and a

840
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 3: rad show host. Yes, at the time, did you know

841
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 3: how important this show was going to be?

842
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 4: You know?

843
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 6: No, again, it was another like everything gay back then

844
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 6: was very underground, like yeah, it kind of came and

845
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 6: went and if you know, you had to go find it,

846
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 6: like seek it out. And so I again another audition.

847
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 6: Stories I got this through my music. Like I I

848
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 6: didn't have I didn't have an agent. I still didn't

849
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 6: pursue acting. I was very music driven and I heard

850
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 6: about this audition. So I had my music manager call

851
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 6: to get me an audition because I was like, oh,

852
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 6: this sounds kind of cool, like maybe this is something

853
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 6: I could do. And I went out for the role

854
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 6: of Shane and I ended up getting a callback, and

855
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 6: then I got another callback and I was like, oh,

856
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 6: this is so weird. And then I tested against my

857
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 6: now best friend Kate, who played Shane. It was her

858
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 6: and I in the audition room and we both tested

859
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 6: for the network, and when I was sitting there, I

860
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 6: obviously knew. I was like, oh this is I'm never

861
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 6: going to get this.

862
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: But I never getting this, yeah, because there she is.

863
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 6: That's Shane. And then I went home and they had

864
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 6: my home phone number, like so they were calling like

865
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 6: the house for any like callbacks or whatever. And so

866
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 6: a week went by. I didn't get it in the

867
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 6: phone ring and they were like, hey, you obviously didn't

868
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 6: get that part. They want to bring you back in.

869
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 6: They liked something about you. They want to read you

870
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 6: for this other part. And then it's a totally different character.

871
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 6: And they sent me that they foxed me the sides.

872
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 6: Oh I remember this. Yeah, And I went through the

873
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 6: same process I started from the beginning and I ended

874
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 6: up testing and I got the show and I was like,

875
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 6: oh this is I mean, I was obviously like thrilled.

876
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 6: I actually funny stories. I turned it down twice when

877
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 6: they called to tell me I got the heart because

878
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 6: I really I know, this is like how oblivious I was,

879
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 6: like Hollywood like all these kind of things.

880
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: They were like, you got it.

881
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 6: I was like I was at the house with my

882
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 6: friend Heather, who is my bandmate, and I realized like, oh,

883
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 6: I have to leave to go shoot this pilot and

884
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 6: it was up in Vancouver, and I was like, I

885
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 6: can't leave. I can't leave the band. I can't leave

886
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 6: the I can't this because we had been you know,

887
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 6: we were like twelve years deep at this point. We

888
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 6: were like, you know, do or die together, just like everything,

889
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 6: and so I was like, thank you so much. It's

890
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 6: been a great opportunity. I just like, I don't think

891
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 6: I can and they were like, really like it, so

892
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 6: you just put us through. But I think when I

893
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 6: got it, I didn't realize or I didn't realize until

894
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 6: I got it what it was going to take, like

895
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 6: the reality of the situations.

896
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 1: Like sorry, I should have asked where it shoots.

897
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, to all of that.

898
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know this is like it's.

899
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 3: Such an.

900
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 4: Iditioned fourteen times. I don't want this role.

901
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I ever should have gone in.

902
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 6: Yeah. So they called back again, and on the third

903
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 6: the third time that one of the producers called and

904
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 6: she was like I heard, you're like turning this down.

905
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 6: And anyway, my bandmate and I we had like a

906
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 6: you know, a big conversation, a good cry, and it

907
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,479
Speaker 6: was like, don't worry I'm not leaving like I'm gonna.

908
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 6: I'll be here like I'll be back, it'll be quick.

909
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 6: And then we went up and shot the pilots. I

910
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 6: still thought it was something that like nobody was ever

911
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 6: going to see. And then obviously the whole, my whole

912
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 6: entire life changed overnight.

913
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, unbelievable. What a story.

914
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 4: Isn't that the way it is too though.

915
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, one less phone call and your

916
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 2: whole life is different, different, turned it down twice and

917
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: that's it.

918
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 4: So oh man, you never I know this business.

919
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 3: I just love that, like you studied acting and then

920
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 3: had just kind of fell into doing music because you

921
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 3: guys started a band and then we're like, oh yeah,

922
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 3: I'm not even trying for this acting thing. I'm really

923
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 3: gung ho and narrow focused on music and all these

924
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 3: everything kept coming to you acting wise.

925
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 6: Yes, that's what's always blown my mind. I mean not

926
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 6: that I've worked multiple times, but when I have, it's

927
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 6: usually come through music. Yeah, And I there's something to that,

928
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 6: And I think it's it's because like now if I

929
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 6: audition for something now that like I'm fully committed to doing.

930
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: This right now that you've given up music.

931
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

932
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 6: Now now it's harder because like now the stakes are higher.

933
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 6: I don't you know, it's like I really want it.

934
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 6: I probably look a little more like I don't want

935
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 6: to say desperate, so like you can tell I want it,

936
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 6: like before.

937
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: It please it was like did you all go anywhere?

938
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 4: Yeah?

939
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 6: When you like that guy in high school and he

940
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 6: doesn't like you, you it's like you. It's there's something

941
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 6: to like. When you don't want it, they want you

942
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 6: when you want it, I want.

943
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 4: You human nature. Unfortunately, I think that's absolutely right.

944
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: But I'm hoping that they're still faxing you sides because

945
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: that would be the bed.

946
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 4: It's like, sorry, I gotta I gotta take this.

947
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: You need to hang up the phone. So could you

948
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: could you give me a few minutes because I am

949
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: going to this disconnect. I gotta take the cord, put

950
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: the I'm so slow.

951
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 6: It's like.

952
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: Just the worst, the absolute worst.

953
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: I have a question, do you so did you prefer

954
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 2: at the time doing four camera like Boy Meets World

955
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: the sitcom we did, or single camera like the Old Word?

956
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 4: Which one? Which? Which version of TV did you like better?

957
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 6: You know, I've dreamt about doing what you all did

958
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 6: more today. You know what I loved about it the audience. Yes,

959
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 6: I mean that really changes everything. You get that immediate response, yep,

960
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 6: and you could feel the night we taped like that,

961
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 6: just there's an energy like none of that's happening on set. Yeah,

962
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 6: it's like we're like fourteen hours in and the room's like.

963
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: Everyone's tired, and you're like, where are we in the script?

964
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: What did I do right before this?

965
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's I mean, I really think that's what you had,

966
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 6: is the dream job?

967
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 4: I think so too.

968
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: Well, it's because it was there's also this the joy

969
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 2: of your rehearsing all week and you're leading up to

970
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 2: show night.

971
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 4: You know, there's then that the audience comes in. You feel,

972
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 4: like you said, you feel the energy.

973
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: And the thing that I always loved was some of

974
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 2: the stuff that was getting all the laughs during the

975
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 2: week isn't getting the same lasts from the audience, and

976
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: they're laughing at stuff you weren't expecting. So even your

977
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 2: thrown out, it's like it's the greatest thing kind of

978
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 2: you're reading them while they're reading you, and you're trying

979
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 2: to Yeah, the best way to dance. So yeah, I

980
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 2: personally agree, but I sometimes the shooting. I mean, doing

981
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 2: a show like the L Word, it's you're essentially shooting

982
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: a film all it does.

983
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 4: All the time. Yeah, you exhaust.

984
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, well you don't get as many takes as well.

985
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 6: I mean you you know, like three setups is great.

986
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 6: There's too many things to get three too many setups

987
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 6: and I you know, like theater because when I was

988
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 6: in school, like that's all we did. So it just

989
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 6: your show reminded me so much of that. Yeah, I

990
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 6: mean I don't even understand how you guys let that go?

991
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 2: What a what a?

992
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 6: I mean it was over what a?

993
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 5: What a?

994
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 6: Come down? Like, how did you get through that?

995
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: It's been a rough twenty three years.

996
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: No, you know, it's funny, you we joke about it,

997
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 2: but it's it's it's easy to see how sitcom actors,

998
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: especially young sitcom actors, fall into that unfortunate stereotype of

999
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 2: drinking or drugs or going down the wrong path, because,

1000
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 2: as we've said many times, Thursday night, you're somebody and

1001
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 2: you're in front of an audience and first seven morning

1002
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: it's you're not so you you could kind of you

1003
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: wouldn't always see there are some shocks, but you could

1004
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: kind of tell the people that weren't going to be

1005
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: able to transition as easily, where it's you could see

1006
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 2: like ooh, this person might have a problem, and sometimes

1007
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: they did, and so you know, you could find that

1008
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 2: it's it's looking for that rush. That audience becomes a

1009
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 2: drug and it's literally gone in one day.

1010
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 6: So you uh, yeah, some people, you know, I never

1011
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 6: equated it to the rush of the audience. I always

1012
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 6: thought it must be an age, you know, just growing

1013
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 6: up and then who am I when you leave?

1014
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 2: Well, there's there's something interesting about knowing that chances are

1015
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 2: you've lived the first line of your obituary by the

1016
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 2: time you're seventeen.

1017
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I you know you can do.

1018
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 4: You can go off and have a great life and

1019
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 4: a wonderful life, family, whatever you want to do.

1020
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 2: But chances are it's going to say, Wilfred Dell from

1021
00:48:55,400 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 2: Boy Mets World was killed today by a Lilian I have, yeah, or.

1022
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 4: Katie one and the same she's a lion on. Yeah.

1023
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: So I mean that there's there's there can be a

1024
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: difficulty in that transition for some people, yea, which is

1025
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 2: why being a child actor usually is a whole separate

1026
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 2: thing than than starting to act when you're nineteen.

1027
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, like your identity is cemented, yes, and you're like

1028
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 6: trying to either chase it or leave it behind. You're

1029
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 6: the first one of two.

1030
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's so it's I mean, you know, just

1031
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 2: the same way you're talking about the desperation you feel.

1032
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 2: You know that there's an a lord of this business

1033
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 2: where the second you feel like you've left it behind,

1034
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 2: one thing comes and taps you on the shoulder and

1035
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 2: you're instantly sucked.

1036
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: Oh for sure.

1037
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 4: So it is it's just you think you get away

1038
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 4: and you can't.

1039
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I have that.

1040
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 6: I have that with my show as well. I mean

1041
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 6: we all do. Whoever is a part of it. But

1042
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 6: but the audience thing, that's very interesting because I do

1043
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 6: always from having one week, spending one week with you guys,

1044
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 6: I remember that feeling and how much fun it was. Yeah,

1045
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 6: And like I can't imagine seven years, week after week,

1046
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 6: like what that would would would do to me, how

1047
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 6: much I would miss it?

1048
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 4: Yes? Is that the goal? Then? I mean?

1049
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 2: Do you would you love to be like on a

1050
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 2: sitcom now, like a straight up comedy camera?

1051
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, like I've said it for years like that, Yeah,

1052
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 6: that would be plus. I just like the the rhythm

1053
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 6: of it. I like the rhythm of sitcoms.

1054
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, we do too.

1055
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 6: They're musical, you know, like they are a musical, like

1056
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 6: the way the you know.

1057
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 3: Well we we had on Boy Meets World. Some of

1058
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 3: our guest stars are some of like the coolest musicians ever.

1059
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 3: You Blake Senate from ryle o' Kylie was a regular,

1060
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 3: a recurring guest star on our show. And Alex Dasaer

1061
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 3: who's a hepcat yep like the musical influences on the show,

1062
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 3: and the people who stand out the most, sometimes with

1063
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 3: the smallest amount of things to do, like you only

1064
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 3: you were in one episode. Ye Blake did maybe twelve

1065
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 3: episodes but was definitely a side character, and Alex, who

1066
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 3: did a full season with us but was the most

1067
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 3: underused actor on the show.

1068
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: They are some of the most indelible.

1069
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 3: And we think it is because there's a musicality to

1070
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 3: sitcom that you speak music, you get the rhythm.

1071
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: That's so cool, isn't it cool?

1072
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 6: You thought that, and I thought that, and now we

1073
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 6: all think it's cool, and.

1074
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: Now we're all now and now we put it out

1075
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: into the world and everyone will.

1076
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 6: Believe it we gave away the secret. It's true.

1077
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: No, and it's true though we've talked about that the

1078
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 2: best sitcom actors are the ones that they're playing offbeat.

1079
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 2: So you think you're hearing the regular tempo and then

1080
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: the line comes from Matthew Perry, where you go, where

1081
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 2: the hell did you get that from? Like?

1082
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 4: Where is that? Read? From?

1083
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 2: Alan Alda was the same way. It's like, wow, you

1084
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 2: just took it a whole different way. So, yeah, there's

1085
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 2: that musicality, but it's the actors that play off beat

1086
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 2: that are the ones that always stick with me.

1087
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, comedy is music.

1088
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 3: You have your own podcast with your friend Kate, who

1089
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 3: we mentioned played Shane from The L Word, and.

1090
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: It's called the Pants Pod.

1091
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, inspired you to do a podcast with your former

1092
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 3: co star who's also a best friend because it sounds awful, terrible, terrible, I.

1093
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 6: Mean, you know, and in all honesty, it was the pandemic.

1094
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 6: We really missed each other and we thought, you know,

1095
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 6: podcasts were kind of around, but nobody, nobody who's doing recap.

1096
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 6: We didn't want it to be an L Word recap

1097
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 6: show because we were scared that we'd run out right,

1098
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 6: because you.

1099
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: Know, we.

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Speaker 4: Also we know that fear.

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Speaker 1: Which welcome to you.

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Speaker 6: You have tends to talk about because you you are

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00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 6: friends as well, right, yes, yeah, so yeah, so we

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00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 6: just sort of jp, you know, just it was sort

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Speaker 6: of like a phone call, like what would we talk

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Speaker 6: about normally? And then we're four years deep at this point, Wow,

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Speaker 6: and now we're like ning amount of things to talk about.

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Speaker 4: What's it about? And what are we going to talk about?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, please come on, we can do the same thing, right.

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Speaker 6: I would love to have you on, Kate. We'll just

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Speaker 6: sit back and listen, like what happened?

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Speaker 4: So would you do? You know?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? No, honestly, I'd love to have you on. But

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Speaker 6: we we just we've tried recapping the L word. It's

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Speaker 6: just we have you might find this. We have so

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Speaker 6: many inside jokes and also like we have the ability

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Speaker 6: to laugh at something that's so close to us, right, Like,

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Speaker 6: but I think for but it belongs to everybody, right,

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Speaker 6: So that's the thing where I'm like, I don't think

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Speaker 6: we can we can we can own it in that

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Speaker 6: way and talk about it only from our point of view,

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Speaker 6: because I don't know, it's just too important for people.

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Speaker 6: So we I think we're probably not going to do recaps.

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Speaker 3: I could see, Yeah, I guess I could see that.

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Speaker 3: I will tell you that we it was. One of

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Speaker 3: the things we talked about was like how important Boy

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Speaker 3: Meets World is to people, the way it affected them,

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00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 3: changed their childhoods or helped them through their childhoods. And

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Speaker 3: we were worried that our inside jokes or the way

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Speaker 3: we were going to criticize something. We talked about it

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Speaker 3: just outwardly right at the beginning, like our biggest fear

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Speaker 3: is that we're going to ruin the show for people

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Speaker 3: by us just being honest and having fun conversation about it.

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Speaker 3: But we said, but if we're going to do this,

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Speaker 3: we're going to be honest, and then we let everybody

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Speaker 3: in on those inside jokes. We never have shied away

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Speaker 3: from saying them, and now we have people coming up

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00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 3: to us at live show saying, Steve's having a baby, yeah,

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00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 3: and like that's a thing that only if you worked

1141
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 3: on Boy Meets World for those few years would you

1142
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 3: even know what that meant.

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00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: And now everybody he knows it.

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00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you it's the greatest feeling to feel

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00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 3: the community has grown and you just feel more connected

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00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 3: to people and now they know the show in a

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00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 3: deeper way. So I understand the fear, but I bet

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00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 3: you would actually find a way to seamlessly do it

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00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 3: and you would enjoy it, and so would the fans.

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Speaker 6: Okay, good, I will take that end.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, finally, looking back now, almost thirty years later, when

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Speaker 3: you see your baby years years.

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Speaker 4: Every time I hear it, I'm like, oh my god,

1155
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 4: I can't be that long.

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Speaker 3: So when you see that baby Lesia as you described her,

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Speaker 3: absolutely killing it in her first TV acting gig ever,

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Speaker 3: what would you want to say to her?

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Speaker 6: Oh, I'm really proud of her, Like I love that

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Speaker 6: I just went for it, and I and and I

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Speaker 6: see that, I see that in the in the performance,

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Speaker 6: I just seem like very excited to be there. And

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Speaker 6: I don't know I'd be like, good job, kid, Yes, I.

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Speaker 4: Think that's right. One thing we did.

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Speaker 2: I want to know if you remember this because we

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00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: talked about this. I talked about this when we recapped

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Speaker 2: the actual episode. Do you remember pulling me aside and saying, can.

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00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 4: You do me a favor? And I was all nervous.

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00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna say, like I was doing

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Speaker 2: something horrible and you're like, can you start the sun

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00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 2: will come out tomorrow at a lower key because I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to be.

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Speaker 4: Able to hit the notes. Do you remember this?

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Speaker 6: No, But that's funny. I was watching last night and

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Speaker 6: because I started a certain way, and then when you

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Speaker 6: came back in, we were in a different key, and

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Speaker 6: I thought that was because you could like you couldn't

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Speaker 6: hear the key was already. I asked you.

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00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 2: You're like, could you come and make it lower because

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Speaker 2: I'm but the way you pulled me aside, it.

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Speaker 4: Was like I really need to talk to you about something.

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00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, God, like I had done that,

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00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 4: and it was You're like, could you start it a little?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm a professional singer.

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Speaker 4: I can figure out what a key is. You know

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00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 4: new Googles, what's the key?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Start lower? Okay, gotcha?

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Speaker 6: Week we really did.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 3: We've had almost just as much fun having you here

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00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 3: on the podcast with us, So we can't thank you

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00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:17,439
Speaker 3: enough for spending your time with us today.

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Speaker 6: It was my pleasure. I was very excited to do it.

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Speaker 6: It's so great to see you both. You look amazing.

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Speaker 1: You're like wise. We'll have to we'll have to make

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Speaker 1: plans to get together.

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Speaker 4: We definitely want you to.

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Speaker 6: Call for the party. So cool, very interested.

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Speaker 4: We will.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, plug in your home phone.

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Speaker 6: We have to decide which corn I would be. I mean,

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Speaker 6: oh yeah, I guess the mean I get the edgy

1204
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Speaker 6: one because.

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Speaker 4: People would want to hear shallow boy. Yeah, I want

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Speaker 4: to hear.

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Speaker 6: It's decided. Well, thank you so much. That was nice

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00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 6: to see you. Bye bye bye.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, she's incredible. She I mean, that was

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00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 3: so much fun to have her. And you could tell

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Speaker 3: that she was really excited to be here, which is

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Speaker 3: great because I was worried she was gonna You know,

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00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 3: we have interviewed people before where they haven't remembered anything,

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Speaker 3: and then.

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Speaker 1: You think, why did you want to be on this podcast?

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Speaker 1: If you don't remember this be far. But she remembers stuff,

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Speaker 1: and she had the.

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Speaker 4: Second she started talking.

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Speaker 2: Her voice is so like I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if and I should have talked her about this while

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Speaker 2: we're doing it, but I'll have to email her.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if she has a voiceover agent, but

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Speaker 4: her voice is so unique. Yes, the second she started talking,

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Speaker 4: I was right. I was right back to the shooting

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Speaker 4: the show because oh man, her voice hasn't changed it all.

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Speaker 1: It's great, man, so great, so great to see her.

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Speaker 4: And how cool is that?

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Speaker 1: Just going over some of the musical guest stars.

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Speaker 2: Wh yeah, and that's not even including like the monkeys, right, yeah, exactly.

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00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 2: And what we had the what the guitarist from Cheap

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Speaker 2: Trick and who was the Oh god, I'm gonna forget

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00:58:58,800 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 2: his name.

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00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 4: Who's who? What would you think I could do?

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00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 2: What this?

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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, who was one of the tongues. Wasn't he

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Speaker 4: one of the four guitars?

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Speaker 6: I think it was? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And then never forget this, the hold onto the night

1239
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: leather jacket. That's part of the show.

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Speaker 4: We've got, We've got some serious musical cred.

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00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: Absolutely well.

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Speaker 3: You guys can check out Lisha's other podcast, the Pants Pod,

1243
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 3: and hear all of the music from the Murmurs and

1244
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 3: her more recent band uh uh huh her and that

1245
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 3: is playing on all platforms. Billy Vera, Billy, That's who

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00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 3: was you were thinking of? Thank you all for listening

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00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 3: to this episode of Pod Meets World. As always, you

1248
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 3: can follow us on Instagram pod Meets World Show. You

1249
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:41,920
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00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,040
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Speaker 1: We'll send us out.

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Speaker 4: We love you all, except writer pod dismissed.

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Speaker 2: Pod Meets World is n iHeart podcast producing hosted by

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Speaker 2: Danielle Fischel, Wilfredell and Ryder Strong executive producers, Jensen Carp

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Speaker 2: and Amy Sugarman Executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo,

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Speaker 2: producer and editor, Tara sudbachsch producer, Maddy Moore engineer and

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Speaker 2: by Kyle Morton of Typhoon and you can follow us

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