1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis en 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show is underway. Thanks for being here. A 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: lot of news, of course, the protest madness starting on 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: Columbia University's campus now replicated on a whole lot of 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: other campuses seeing it in Oh God, it's up at Yale, 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: It's so that's Connecticut, it's in Minnesota, It's I can't 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: even name all the states all over the place, these 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: campus protests breaking out right at the end of the 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: school year. Arrests have been made NYU and New York. 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: Arrest have been made there. So we're going to dive 12 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: into that whole situation for sure. 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: And yes, sir, I just want to point out something 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: you said yesterday, but I think it's very funny and 15 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 2: worth pointing out. The protesters are so upset about what's 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: going on that they waited until the weather was good 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: enough to be able to camp out in the northeast, 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: to actually camp out on the quad. 19 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: They didn't use this in January and February. The Israeli 20 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: military escalation, invasion whatever has been going on for months. Yes, 21 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: and yet there was no occupy the Quad protest in February. 22 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: It's very funny now that it's you know, Hackey Sack 23 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: and Patuli Weather out in the quad. You know, everyone 24 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: just hanging out. They're having a good time. So we'll 25 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: discuss some of the madness here. And also, as we said, 26 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: real dedication would be University of Michigan or Minnesota or 27 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: Buffalo protesting out of the campus quad January. Then then 28 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: you're committed, like right. 29 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: Now, try to sleep outside when it's really cold. I mean, 30 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: it is absolutely brutal for anybody who has ever done it. 31 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: It's just very funny that it's now nice outdoors weather 32 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: and they're suddenly like, we've got to we've. 33 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: Got to take over the quad, We've got to sleep outdoors. 34 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, I remember I had to eat outside 35 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: once long story, during the worst of COVID madness, and 36 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: it was January and I was absolutely like I actually 37 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: lost touch with my butt, Like I don't know if 38 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: it was there anymore, that's how cold it was. You 39 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: never want to be like is my butt still there? 40 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: That's a bad day. 41 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: I We had a camp sleepover in February for the 42 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 2: school that my kids go to it's a dad's son 43 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: camp out, and you could take all your boys. And 44 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 2: my youngest at the time was like five or six 45 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: years old, and in the middle of the night, he 46 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: just came over to me and he said, Dad, can 47 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 2: I please get into your sleeping bag. I am just 48 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 2: so unbelievably cold, you know, my little kid and youngest son, 49 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: And he just climbed in and just burrowed down underneath, 50 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 2: just immediately went to sleep. I couldn't move, of course, 51 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: but it is funny. It is very worth noting, and 52 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: I haven't heard anybody else mention it. They're so committed 53 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: to the idea of anti Israel protests, but only if 54 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 2: it's not that cold outside, which is perfect for these people. 55 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: So we've also got We're going to dive into that 56 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: a lot. I've I've been analyzing the masking phenomenon on campus, 57 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: and it's complicated and very interesting because there are a 58 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: lot of these protesters wearing masks. See the photos, you 59 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: see the videos. Why. I know everyone thinks they know why, 60 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: but it's actually different things depending on the protesters we're 61 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: talking about. I'll get into that in a moment. This story. 62 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: Clay sent this to me, and this one just infuriates me. 63 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: This American dad, father of two, is arrested returning from 64 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: his vacation in the Turks and Caicos Islands in the Caribbean. 65 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: This kind of hits home. I was just in the 66 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: Caribbean myself, and he faces a mandatory twelve year prison 67 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: sentence for having a few hunting rifle. I believe it's rifle. 68 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: It might be shotgun on it. Even know a hunting 69 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: ammunition rounds for hunting. It wasn't clear. 70 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: Not a weapon, not a weapon, not just a bag 71 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: that he had had maybe ammunition stored in before and 72 00:03:58,520 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: a couple of rounds. 73 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: It was a stay anyone. Look, I'll tell you I 74 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: have And I was taught this by a Special Forces guy. 75 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: He said, First of all, no one ever packs your 76 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: gear before you go out onto the range or off 77 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: the range. But you never let anyone else pack when 78 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: you're dealing with ammunition and fiarms because you never know 79 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: when someone's gonna inadvertently stick a few rounds into this 80 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: pocket because they're loose. Loose rounds happen all the time. 81 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: He said, you were always It's almost like the airport things. 82 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: If you said you're always in charge of your kit 83 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: to and from the range. And it's because of situations 84 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: like this, and so anyway, it drives me insane. There 85 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: is no justice If somebody for an inadvertent mistake with 86 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: no cost to anyone or anything, it faces prison time. 87 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: I want to discuss that in a little bit morning 88 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: console Bloomberg Poll. We'll get into this. I'm gonna have 89 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: to calm Clay down a little bit. It's a little early, still, Clay, 90 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: it's a little early, all right. We don't have we 91 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: we can't get too excited. We got to keep our composure. 92 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: Trump is absolutely trouncing by in all of these polls, Okay, 93 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: and we're gonna have We're gonna have to just look 94 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: at that reality, not get too far ahead of ourselves. 95 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: And then Supreme Court is looking at an Idaho abortion law, 96 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: federal law. And I've got some thoughts, Clay on how 97 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: they're taking this. Oh, one more thing, Walmart getting rid 98 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: of some automated checkout stations, but not because of efficiency. 99 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: We will discuss that. Walmart's already starting to phase it out. 100 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: But let's start with this. I I was like, look, 101 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: you're hearing some sanity from people out there in the 102 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: media in surprising places. And I think it's in part 103 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: because one they're worried about the they're honestly the backlash 104 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: for the Jewish community in this country in an election year, 105 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: and and you know they probably should be right. Also, Clay, 106 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: I think that they so so they recognize the politics 107 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: of this, They recognize that it's something that could come 108 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: back and bite them. But there we'll get into some 109 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: of those moments. But first off, this was this was 110 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: on I think a substack. I'll track down the author 111 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: in a second. Pardon me for quoting without sighting, but 112 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: I'll have to quote it. Part of the reason, say 113 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: organizers at Columbia that they're masking remains an attempt to 114 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: make a point about exposure to COVID nineteen and other 115 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: health risks, which some in the protest movement believe remains dire. 116 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: Part of it is the threat of a different kind 117 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: of exposure from being captured by facial recognition technology or 118 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: being docks by counter protesters. Clay I was saying this, 119 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: I think you can tell the difference because if you're 120 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: just a civilization hating pro terrorist loon, you go with 121 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: the Kafia you go with the scarf of you know 122 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: that you associate with hamas and this is like, hey, 123 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: you know, and you start you walk around with that 124 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: thing on, and you do you look, you pull the 125 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: whole sort of Arafat routine. You go with that. But 126 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: if you're wearing a surgical mask, which look in the 127 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: photos huge, I mean thirty percent of them are wearing 128 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: either an N ninety five or some kind of a 129 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: surgical medical mask. It's because they and they say it 130 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: to their they're being asked about this. They still think 131 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: COVID is a dire threat. They believe that. 132 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: You know, there used to be laws to not allow 133 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 2: masking because the idea was clearly you're more likely to 134 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: commit a crime if your face can't be seen. Go figure, 135 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: we need to bring back this. 136 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,239 Speaker 1: It's a public safety issue in New York for two 137 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: hundred years were unless it was needed for construction or 138 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: an imminent work task, you're not allowed to walk around 139 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: with your face covered. But I argue this during the 140 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: pandemic play so I was diving into this history back then. 141 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: It is absolutely sensible policy to say your face must 142 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: be people must be able to see your face in public. 143 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: I think even more so it had to be connected 144 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,559 Speaker 2: to the massive amounts of theft that we saw over 145 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: taking place in New York City, because in a camera age, 146 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: being able to be seen is even more of a 147 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: distraction you would. 148 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: Think from being willing to steal. 149 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: But yes, it's evidence to me that these people are 150 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: in a cult. And the scary thing about cults for 151 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: anyone out there that has ever studied them or paid 152 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: attention to them at all, is they don't respond to 153 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: rational thought. And this has been my argument for whatever 154 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: your political beliefs are, you can be the most diehard 155 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 2: Trump supporter out there right now. 156 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: Don't be cult like. 157 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: Look at the facts and be willing to have a 158 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: difference of opinion with a political figure. You should unless 159 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: you're the candidate yourself. You should never agree with anyone 160 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 2: on one hundred percent of the issues. I really mean that. 161 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: And I love those of you out there who listen 162 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: to Bucket Me and you're out there every day and 163 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 2: your diehards and you listen for three hours, I would 164 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: say the same thing to you. You shouldn't agree with 165 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 2: everything that we say on this program. There should be 166 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: some things where you're like, ah, I think they're wrong 167 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 2: on this, or I agree with Buck, or I agree 168 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: with Clay. But I know Clay is wrong sometimes and 169 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: I have to tell him because of the honesty of 170 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: the show. I have to explain to him that flute 171 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: players can be quite masculine and handsome, and. 172 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: That eating ice cream alone is not a problem. 173 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: So and if we needed someone, Laura Travis would be 174 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: very happy to call in and list a litany of 175 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 2: things that I am one hundred percent wrong with in 176 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: twenty years of marriage. And I'm sure Carrie, even though 177 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: you're relatively new in marriage, has a full list of 178 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: things that she has decided that you are wrong about. 179 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm wrong sometimes, I'm wrong sometimes, and I apologize in 180 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: advance for all of those wrongs that I have not. Yes, 181 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: that's a very smart married man thing to do. All 182 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: of you out there should be willing to challenge conventional 183 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: wisdom and any opinion out there. And what you're seeing 184 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: is this is what's scary. And I think you said 185 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: it also, but it's worth pointing out you can be 186 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: highly educated and incredibly dumb. And what you're seeing from 187 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: these NYU faculty members. Ian Miller, who writes it out 188 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: Cake and has been great on Data tweeted about it too, 189 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. They were performing a human shield 190 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: to try to keep the police from being able to 191 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: do anything to the NYU protesters, and all of the 192 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: in the picture, all of the faculty members had on 193 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: masks in ninety five or whatever, surgical masks. Can you 194 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: imagine being a parent that is paying these people who 195 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: are wearing masks to instruct your children. I have some 196 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: disconcerting news for you, mister Clay, speaking about keeping it 197 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: real here, more and more it is coming out there 198 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: are a lot of parents who are supportive of this. 199 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 2: I got an email that it's it's the women's side 200 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: of Columbia's Barnard writer Barnard. Yes, I got an email 201 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: that I want to read that was sent to me 202 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 2: yesterday of a mom who listens to our show and 203 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: has a daughter, Believe and is in one of the 204 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: parent Facebook groups and says, like a lot of them 205 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: are supportive of those protests. 206 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: These people see you remember you live in a red state. 207 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: I know these lunatics, the lunatic parents and the lunatic 208 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: kids tend to not always as we know, but tend 209 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: to go together. So yes, we definitely need to have 210 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: you read that email in a second. But first I 211 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: just wanted to note that this was on MSNBC. This 212 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: has cut ten Professor Scott Galloway, who you know, like 213 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: he hates Trump, He's a Democrat. He actually does say 214 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: some sensible things. He said things before. He says things 215 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: about male masculinity and undermining men. And I think he's 216 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: obviously a high wattage guy. I mean he's like probably 217 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: the most famous professor at the NYU Stern School of Business, 218 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: him and Nuriel Rubini, you know who predicted the two 219 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: thousand and eight crash. Anyway, Galloway's going on MSNBC and 220 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: he's talking about, oh, what a surprise. The whole Israel 221 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: thing is about being white, rich oppressors more than anything else. 222 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 1: Plate ten. 223 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 3: I think it's complicated. I think one, young people have 224 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 3: a healthy gag reflex from what people our age think, and. 225 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: I think that's healthy. Two. 226 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 3: I don't think Israel hastraped itself in glory over the 227 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 3: last twenty or thirty years. They've shifted from being kind 228 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 3: of a David to the goliath. I also think that 229 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 3: incorrectly students on campus conflate the civil rights movement with 230 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 3: what is going on in Palestine and have digressed, unfortunately 231 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 3: because of an orthodoxy promoted by me and my colleagues 232 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,719 Speaker 3: that there are oppressors and oppressed and the easiest way 233 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 3: to identify oppressors is how white and how rich they are, 234 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 3: fairly or unfairly. Israel has seen as ground zero for 235 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: whiteness and how wealthy they are. 236 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: We have been saying this months, four months. The reason 237 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: they have mobilized this is like BLM three point zero 238 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: visit to the Middle East. I mean, this is the 239 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: white oppressing brown narrative that these kids have all latched onto. 240 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: And he even says because the professors all buy into it. Clay, Yeah, 241 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: so you're hearing it from He's a democrat, he's a 242 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: tenured at NYU professor, and he's saying with Clay and 243 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: Buck have been telling you for months, almost like we're 244 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: ahead of the curve. 245 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 3: Uh. 246 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 2: Credit to MSNBC for airing that and saying several things 247 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: that are counter I think to what would typically be 248 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: the left wing orthodoxy. I just I real discussion, even 249 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 2: if it comes from places that usually doesn't allow it, 250 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: I think should be praised. 251 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: I also think, you know, one of the We don't 252 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: have stated principles on the show other than just being truthful, 253 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: awesome and loving America. But I do think that something 254 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: that we do and we make a point of it, 255 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: is when someone says something that is a true statement, 256 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: we praise the truth in the statement and give credit 257 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: for the statement. We don't say, oh, well, now this 258 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: person is great, listen to them on everything. But if 259 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: someone says something that is true and accurate, we will 260 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: reflect it that way. We're not going to bash some 261 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: thing that is said by a person just because we 262 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: don't like the person, which is also way of saying 263 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: we got a great Fetterman clip for later on for everybody. 264 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: I do. People keep telling me Fetterman's fooling you, He's 265 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: trying to keep McCormick from winning. That may well be true, 266 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 1: and we have said that, But the soundbites that Fetterman 267 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: is putting out, I can assure you, is enraging the 268 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,359 Speaker 1: left wing pro Hamas Caucus. 269 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: So oh, they've been protesting his house like crazy. I mean, 270 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: we'll talk about that and more when we come back 271 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: in the meantime, and I'll read you that email because 272 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: I do think it's a great email from a mom 273 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: who's got a daughter at Columbia. The Tunnel the Towers 274 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: Foundation has been helping America's heroes and their family since 275 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: nine to eleven. 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I want to 294 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 2: read this email from a listener, Wara, who has a 295 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: child at Barnard College, which is the sister school. I 296 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: think Buck, you made no better than me of Columbia University, 297 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: she wrote in yesterday after we had this discussion about 298 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: how would parents be reacting to the protests that are 299 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: occurring at Columbia, for instance, and she said, Hey, Clay, 300 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: listen to you and Buck every day. 301 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: Love the show. 302 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: Yesterday you wondered about the parents of these college protesters. 303 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: I'm in the Barnard parent Facebook group, and most parents 304 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: are very supportive of what they consider quote their brave 305 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: daughters and think they are being treated unfairly. Some parents 306 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: believe the images in the media have been faked or doctored. 307 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 2: One mom, who I assume is Jewish, indicated fear, but 308 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: then was immediately gaslighted by another mom. I guess Jewish 309 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: mom's quote lived experience isn't valid anyways. She sent screenshots 310 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: of the commentary from inside the parents group. She also said, 311 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: and I think this was interesting, Buck, I'm in many 312 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: college Facebook parent groups as a research hobby. If I 313 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: were to give parents who are looking at colleges one 314 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: piece of advice, it would be to join these. For 315 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 2: any college your kid is interested in. You'll get the 316 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 2: vibe and values of the school very quickly. Again, a 317 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 2: mom of a daughter who is at Barnard College, and 318 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: she shared with me Buck a bunch of screenshots from 319 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 2: inside of this parent group. It's called the Barnard College 320 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: Parents All Class Years Facebook group. It appears where they 321 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: can all kind of get together and discuss and this. 322 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: Is what you said. And I find You're right. 323 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 2: I live in a red state and I'm surrounded by 324 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: more sanity. I can't imagine this. 325 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: I was raised among the communists. They all think that 326 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm insane, you know. They don't even They're always like, oh, 327 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: you know whatever. I deal with some lib in New York. 328 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, well, well, where did you grow up? 329 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: And they expect me to say Tennessee or Texas. I'm like, 330 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: excuse me, I grew up on the East Side, all right, 331 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm born and raised. Where did you grow up? I 332 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: like to say to them, But yes, there's lunacy there's 333 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: badness play even among the parents. 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Use the promo code 351 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: client Clay and Buck to access this cell at MyPillow 352 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: dot com code Clay and Buck. 353 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: What kind of makes sense of the craziness going on, Well, 354 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: that's every day, but particularly the insanity on college campuses 355 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: and what these protesters are running around saying. But there's 356 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: also what is the city of New York going to 357 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: do about it? I would note that New York and 358 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: specifically Columbia University. Columbia University was where an Arab American 359 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: professor named Edward Said was teaching for a long time. 360 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: And also he wrote Orientalism, which is a whole theory 361 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: around how the West views the East, you know, meaning 362 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: the Middle East specifically in this case, but really the 363 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: East more broadly, with a bit of condescension and all 364 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: their problems are our fault. So this stuff has been 365 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: at Columbia University for a long time. It's not new. 366 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: It's been a hobit of this. In fact, producer Ali 367 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: reminded us that Ahmedinajad, I think it was back in 368 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: two thousand and ten when he was the when he 369 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: was the president of Iran or was it the prime 370 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: minister of Iran at the time. I think he was 371 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: the I think he was the president. Anyway, he visited 372 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: Colombia and the Columbia students. Columbia University was all very 373 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:24,719 Speaker 1: excited about this until they asked Ahmedinajad, what do you 374 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: what about gay people in your country and your treatment 375 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: of them? And his response was there are no gay 376 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: people in Iran. So, as you can imagine, that did 377 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: not go over well even with the Columbia students run 378 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: has seventy million people. I was two thousand and seven. 379 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I was a few years off. I can't 380 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: remember everything off the top of my head. Two thousand 381 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: and seven he spoke at Columbia University. But let's just 382 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: take a moment. The Mayor of New York City, Eric Adams, 383 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: was confront so he spends time floor, but I think 384 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: he was giving a speech. He's down here in Miami 385 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: that I could guess with three guesses which hotel he 386 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: stayed in, because he likes to party. He does, he like, 387 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: he likes the nightlife, he likes the scene. So I 388 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: have a feeling I know where Eric Adams would be staying, 389 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: probably somewhere very fancy, very nice. But he was approached 390 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: on his flight back. The Mayor of New York approached 391 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: by a protester on the plane, and the protester unsurprisingly unhinged, insane. 392 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 3: Listen to this, Adams, Yes you you supported the Jason Passa. 393 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: They're holtic all over New York. The girl is party. 394 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: You ain't actually cares about the seres of New York. 395 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: Where are even Miami? Clair? You go ahead, you can 396 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: tell how is he? How is he supporting the genocide 397 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: in New York or rather the genocide in Gaza. 398 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: No, it's a fantastic question. You could also tell you 399 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: can't see this girl, but you can tell by the 400 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: way she's speaking that she is ripping him while wearing 401 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: a mask on the airplane. There a couple of things. 402 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: One can we stop normalizing because this happened to Alec Baldwin. 403 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 2: Two pulling out your phone and recording someone while you 404 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 2: brate them, regardless of what your politics are. And I 405 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 2: mean this for Republicans, for Democrats, for people who are independent. 406 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 2: You don't make yourself or whatever cause you believe in, 407 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: look better when you hold up your camera and scream 408 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 2: at someone over political beliefs. We've got to stop the 409 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 2: normalization of this. We should as a nation, I believe, 410 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 2: ridicule people who are doing this. That's not to say 411 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 2: you can't protest or advocate for what you believe. But 412 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 2: in the same way that we've been pretty consistent on, Hey, 413 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 2: you shouldn't be able to show up outside of somebody's 414 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 2: head house on their front lawn and protest and beat 415 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: drums and scream at them and wake up all their 416 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 2: neighbors in a residential area. On an airplane, you shouldn't 417 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 2: pull out your phone scream at Eric Adams. But buck, 418 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 2: this is what they have unleashed. The Left doesn't know 419 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: how to put the genie back in the bottle, and 420 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 2: now they're turning. Instead of going after the great Satan, 421 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 2: Donald Trump, they now are turning on each other. And 422 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 2: this is what the Left does. I've been waiting for it, 423 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,719 Speaker 2: French Revolution style to turn on itself, and I think 424 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 2: with the Israel protest, with the heckling that we're seeing 425 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 2: happen of Eric Adams. Even Alec Baldwin, strongman of the Left, 426 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 2: got ridiculed at his coffee shop for not being willing 427 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: to scream free Palestine. 428 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: I think for the first time on the show say 429 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: that we stand with Alec Baldwin, which is the very 430 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: first time. But you know, if you're acting like a 431 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: jerk in public and just harassing somebody. It's not discourse, 432 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: it's not changing anyone's minds, it's not winning overhearts and minds. 433 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: It's just an act of pure intimidation. And that's why 434 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: what they're doing on campus and the stuff they're saying 435 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: about Jews and Jewish support for Israel. And notice that 436 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: Eric Adams supports the genocide in Gaza. I mean, first 437 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: of us, it's not a genocide. Second of all, Eric 438 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: Adams doesn't support it. And third of all, that woman 439 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: is an idiot. 440 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 2: And what could he do even if he did support it, Like, 441 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: what does the mayor of New York City have to 442 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: do with something that's happening five thousand miles away from 443 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 2: him or whatever the mileage total is. As if they're 444 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 2: gonna be like, we weren't really sure what to do 445 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: to respond to the terror attack, but Eric Adams, the 446 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 2: mayor of New York City, made a statement and so 447 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 2: we're going to change our mind. 448 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: Well, this is why Israel Palestine for the Left is 449 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: such a perfect issue of virtue stigma. And we've talked 450 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: about the racial dynamic, then there's a religious dynamic, the 451 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: anti colonial stuff, and of course, anti anti Semitism broadly, 452 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: but also it's like climate change, it's an issue that everybody. 453 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: The proximity that you have to it is such that 454 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: you get to shout and scream and make demands and 455 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: do nothing and think that you're a good person. Right. 456 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: No one is saying to these protesters, why don't you 457 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: go to Gaza and you know, work in the you know, 458 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: work in humanitarian capacity there or anything else. They just 459 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: get to spew this nonsense. And then there's also just 460 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: the idiocy of young people who are brainwashed. And I 461 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: think we shouldn't forget that we have Rudy Giuliani, Yes, 462 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: the Rudy Giuliani shared this out a moment ago on 463 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: his Twitter account. This is a I said YESTERD in 464 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: the show. If I were in New York, I would 465 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: go to these things and I would ask questions because 466 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna just it's a gold mine of content because 467 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: these people are are crazy, nasty and dumb. Overwhelmingly, that's 468 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: what these press. YEA, the professors too. Mind you, here 469 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: is one of the and I know it's only one, 470 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: but I think it's indicative of many more. And the 471 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: mindset here is one of the protesters outside of NYU 472 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: play it. What would you say is the main goal 473 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: with tonight's protest. I think the goal is just showing 474 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,719 Speaker 1: our support for Palestine and demanding that NYU stops. I 475 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: honestly don't know all of what NYU's doing. Is there 476 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: something that NYU's doing. I really don't know. I'm pretty 477 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: sure there. Do you know what ny is doing about that? 478 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: About Israel? 479 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 3: Why are we protesting here? 480 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: That was more educated? I'm not either. I can't play 481 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: in Numbia. I was there on Academia and. 482 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 2: We came down and our support, so I came down. 483 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: I've heard there's lots of pops. Some people were saying 484 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 1: it was getting dangerous play for first leftists. It's just 485 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: a social outing, you know. It's Oh, we were at 486 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: Columbia protesting and like hanging out, and like now we're 487 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: down at NYU and it's like, what is it? Why 488 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: are you even doing about this? Like do you know? 489 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's this is just they get to 490 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: bang like like spoiled bracts. They get to bang pots 491 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: and pans together and demand attention. Nah, And they're not 492 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: even calling for a cease far anymore. Notice they're calling 493 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: for Palestine to be free. What does that mean? Cause 494 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: is free and it's a horrible place. Okay, it's a 495 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: horrible place. The Palestinians have made very poor decisions. 496 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: I guarantee you those girls posted on social media about 497 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 2: the fact that they went to the Free Palestine protest, 498 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 2: and they probably got favorable responses on social media, which 499 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 2: is again reflective of the fact that this is a 500 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: social contagion. I don't really even understand initially, I think 501 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: the idea of the college protest. Correct me if I'm wrong, Buck, 502 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: I'm trying to be logical here and understand what they're demanding. 503 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 2: I believe they were initially demanding that there be a 504 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 2: divestment of any assets that were connected to Israel. But 505 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: does anybody even understand how or First of all, I 506 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 2: don't know how many assets there are that are connected 507 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: to Israel, But the idea that you're going to demand 508 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 2: that somebody sell anything that's connected to Israel, first of all, 509 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 2: it's the most impossible. But secondly, they don't even understand 510 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 2: what that What would that do? Clay, They it's the 511 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: whole thing is is preposterous. But also again I'm a 512 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 2: Native New Yorker, NYU and Columbia have received enormous amounts 513 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: of money from Jewish American donors. Yes, and so these 514 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: campuses are caught in quite a bind because the stuff 515 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 2: that is being said about Jewish Americans the Jewish people 516 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 2: who support Israel, and that's kind of the defining or 517 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: the separating line. 518 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: Here because there are Jewish protesters too. We should not 519 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: lose sight of that. As I and Clay, this goes 520 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: to why I've been telling you, I don't think the 521 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: vote's going to change that much. You said ten percent 522 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: that could happen. Yeah, it's not going to be eighty twenty. 523 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: Though in favor of Trump, I'd stake anything on that 524 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: it might move a little bit. There are Jewish pro 525 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: Hamas protesters in America. As crazy as that sounds to everybody, 526 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: it is a reality. They think this is a moral 527 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: crusade for them as well. It would be one thing 528 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: if they had started this moral crusade before October seventh, 529 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: but after October seventh, it's really hard to decide that 530 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: you need to go on a moral crusade to attack Israel, 531 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: because again, once twelve hundred Jews got murdered in cold blood. 532 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: It's very hard to argue, Oh, the group that supported 533 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: and put them in power Hamas in Gaza is somehow 534 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: deserving of your commendation and support. There's also a backstory here, 535 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: And as I said, I started out my Midi studies, 536 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: and I'm not an Arab Israeli experts specifically. That's something 537 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: that people spend their whole lives on. But I started 538 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,959 Speaker 1: out working at the Washington Institute for New Policy as 539 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,959 Speaker 1: an intern for Dennis Ross, Clinton's envoy for the peace negotiations. 540 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: I worked on the book The Missing Piece, which you 541 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: can it's very boring, don't buy it. But I worked 542 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: on that book as a fact checker for a summer. 543 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: And so I started out on this issue, and so 544 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: I have some institutional memory of it, or just some 545 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: some understanding of the history and even the more recent history. 546 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: Gaza was the the Israelis, with tremendous internal opposition to it, 547 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: pulled out and said, fine, fine, we're gonna get rid 548 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: of all these settlements. We're gonna take people, literally, Jews, 549 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: kicking and screaming from some of these settlements that are 550 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: in this area of God, and Gaza will belong only 551 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: to the Palestinians only. It was a very difficult decision. Internally, 552 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: it israelt the time because the Israelis were like, why 553 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: this would be ours? This is not but put that aside. 554 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: They did it. They gave them greater autonomy, They let 555 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: them hold their own elections, and they elected terror psychopaths 556 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: who throw gay people off of buildings and who engage 557 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: in mass murder. And you find out there are consequences. 558 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say. What is this? 559 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: What are the Israelly supposed to say? Now, yeah, let's 560 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: give them more autonomy and freedom, let's give them more 561 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: acts of good faith. But how many people do you 562 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: think even know Clay that Gaza about the evacuation from 563 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: Gaza who are protesting here. I bet you five out 564 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: of one hundred kids in these protests even knows that 565 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: that happened. And the people who are all like jumping 566 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: on this bandwagon and talking about this as though it's 567 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: some kind of an uprising for justice, they're abject morons. Honestly, 568 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: they know nothing. 569 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 2: College kids are dumb and have been dumb for a 570 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 2: long time. We were in college and we're pretty smart, 571 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: and our listeners, some of them are in college and 572 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 2: they're very smart, so let's not get crazy. But I'm 573 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: less concerned with the college kids stupidity, more concerned with 574 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 2: faculty Columbia and NYU faculty showing up to create a 575 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 2: human shield to prevent any removal of these tents from 576 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: the quad and everything that. 577 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: Masks the professor. This is why I said, guys, it's 578 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: not about fear of employment. Their tenured professors at these schools. 579 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: They're wearing masks because of COVID and because of solidarity 580 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: with the communist visual of the mask. 581 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 2: They're in their forties, fifties, and sixties. They're far too 582 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 2: old to be this dumb. And that is why I 583 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 2: say they're in a cult, and they aren't willing to 584 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 2: recognize the fact that they're in a cult. They think 585 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 2: that they are the smart ones. 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Is this a preview for 624 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 2: what may well happen in Chicago at the Democrat convention. 625 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 2: Explain to me why these crazy lunatic protesters are not 626 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 2: going to do in Chicago in August what they did 627 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty eight at the Democrat National Convention that 628 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 2: also happened in Chicago, to such an extent that if 629 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 2: I lived in Chicago right now, I would already be 630 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 2: a bit nervous of about what was going to happen. 631 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 2: Now they may show up, You and I are going 632 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 2: to be for the week up in Milwaukee. We love 633 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 2: all of our listeners all over Wisconsin will be up 634 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 2: there for the week. 635 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: It's going to be amazing all these civilized people who 636 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: love America, freedom, the constitution, and decency and public order 637 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: all gathered together. 638 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 2: I imagine there will be some protesters up there, but 639 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 2: I don't think they'll show up in the same way 640 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 2: that they will in Chicago. And I think what they're 641 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 2: hoping Buck and we'll talk more about this is I 642 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 2: believe graduation at Columbia as May fifteenth. I think what 643 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 2: all of these people are hoping affiliated with these universities 644 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 2: is well, once graduation happens, then all of these protests 645 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 2: will end. 646 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: Your point is the weather's. 647 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 2: Actually really good in New York City in May, June July. 648 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 2: Why are the protesters going to leave their summer courses? 649 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 2: Certainly white? What's going to be the impetus for them 650 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 2: to depart? Clay they have canceled class. I mean, you 651 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 2: can look at the data on this. For example, there are. 652 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: If you were berg reason, fewer shootings when it rains. 653 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: Why because people don't want to be in the rain, 654 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: whether they're stealing or shooting or whatever. You look at 655 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: the data on protests. When it's especially in Campman protests, 656 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: when it's warm outside, all of a sudden, people become 657 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: more politically active, right, Yes, And by canceling classes. None 658 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: of these kids, a lot of them, I'm sure have internships. 659 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: So some of them are probably going to show up 660 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: at Goldman Sachs in a month and be like, here, 661 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: I am guys paying me a lot of money. I 662 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: hope they don't figure out what, you know, what they 663 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: were protesting, but they have nothing to do between now 664 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: and graduation. They have nothing to do between now and 665 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 1: the start of the summer. So I think they've actually 666 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: almost made it worse. But they don't know what to do. 667 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: They're in free fall. A month of this play. You 668 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: think a month of this is going to be you know, 669 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: that's I think it's gonna I think it might happen. 670 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 2: I don't know what they're gonna do. They've given forty 671 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 2: eight hours to the protesters. They're not negotiating with them 672 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 2: like it was midnights now it's forty eight hours. 673 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right,