1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Stay right here for our final news round up and 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: information overload. All right, News round Up, Information Overload, our 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: eight hundred and ninety four one, Shawn, if you want 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: to be a part of the program. I'm looking at 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: the front cover of the Drudge Report right now. It's 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: got a picture of China state television showing their war 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: plans and how China is ready to fight and have 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: a showdown with the US Navy. And by the way, 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: echoing the comments of President she saying that China is 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: now preparing for war. I guess that means against the 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: United States. My question is what is Joe going to do? 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: Because I think the answer is going to be nothing. 13 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: That's what I think. General Millie made the comments that China, 14 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: China's military beliefs war with the US is inevitable. Listen, 15 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: in my analysis of China is that at least they're military, 16 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: and perhaps others have come to some sort of com 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: sclusion and that war with the United States is inevitable. 18 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't believe war is inevitable. I don't think it's imminent, 19 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: but I do think that we need to be very 20 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: very pragmatic and cause is going forward and we will 21 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: reduce the likelihood of war if we remain really really 22 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: strong a relative to China, and China knows that we 23 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: have the world to use it if necessary. Pretty scary scenario. 24 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: Mike McCall, Congressman, House Foreign Affairs Committee Chair, saying that 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: sending troops to Taiwan is on the table. If this 26 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: is about invading Taiwan or what President she calls reunification, 27 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: we know it's anything but. But listen, so Speaker McCarthy 28 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: and yourself have said that multiple times now that we 29 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: need to arm Taiwan now before there's any sort of invasion. 30 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: What about US troops? I think you know then you're 31 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: talking about an authorized use of military force. It would 32 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: come out of my committee or a declaration of war 33 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: which we have at U license for war two. Don't 34 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: you support that? I think if China commas China invades Taiwan, 35 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: I think it is certainly if the American people support this, 36 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: the Congress will follow. So you're saying that the option 37 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: to authorize warpowers is on the table. If Conress China 38 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: invaded Taiwan, it would certainly be on the table and 39 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: something that would be discussed by Congress and with the 40 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: American people, are they prepared to do this? Is Taiwan 41 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: worth it? I can argue for a lot of reasons 42 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: why it is okay. Now, this goes to what I 43 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: call the new axis of evil, and that is China 44 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: aligning with Russia, aligning with the ran I'm sure North 45 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: Korea will soon be a part of the mix. The 46 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: Saudiast watching America abdicating their role as the leader in 47 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: the free world and doing nothing when a Chinese by 48 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: balloon is allowed to fly over Alaskan airspace, down the 49 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: West coast to Canada, into Idaho, straight across the country 50 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: into right over our military installations around the country, including 51 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: Montana where our ICBM missile sites are, and down to 52 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: Missouri and Kansas and Kentucky and then the Carolinas. Then 53 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: they finally shoot it down after it's you know, out 54 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: out of the sea. Well, we didn't want to shoot 55 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: it down over America, but then you know, we have 56 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: three other shootdowns of unidentified objects. They still have never 57 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: told us what they shot down. Anyway. Gordon Chang joins us. 58 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: By the way, his Twitter handle is at Gordon g 59 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: Chang if you're on Twitter. He's the author of the 60 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: Coming collapse at China, the Great US China Tech War, 61 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: and he has talked about how China has simulated pursuit 62 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: precision strikes against key targets on Taiwan and it's surrounding waters. Well, Gordon, 63 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: We've been watching almost on a regular basis, the Communist 64 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: Chinese flying over Taiwan airspace with their fighter jets, and 65 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: nobody's lifted a finger to stop it. And nobody did 66 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: a thing about the Chinese spy balloon, and nobody did 67 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: anything about Russia taken down a drone. I would expect 68 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: that the US will not be sending troops over to Taiwan, 69 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: and that they will walk in and probably be a 70 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: far more successful than Russia has been in Ukraine. Yes, 71 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: and that's the real concern Sean because Taiwan, after the 72 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: collapse in Afghanistan, just the catastrophic withdrawal, after the failure 73 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: to deter Russia in Ukraine, Taiwan has actually become the 74 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: test of American credibility and resolve around the world. It's 75 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: not just in East Asia, it's all of our alliances. 76 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: Everybody is looking at what we're going to do. And 77 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: you have outlined all of those things where the Bind 78 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: administration has completely failed. Therefore, Siejun Ping and Vladimir Putin 79 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: think they can do what they want just uttered disregard 80 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: the Chinese. When they flew that large spy balloon over 81 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: the United States and Canada, they had uttered disrespect for 82 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: the Bind administration. And we can see this in so 83 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: many other places as well. What do you think China's 84 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: plans are. I think that territorial ambitions are very clear, 85 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: and that they call it reunification. You and I would 86 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: call it a hostile takeover, an invasion of a sovereign country, Taiwan. 87 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: Yet they've been very hostile to the US, lecturing American 88 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: elected officials about even visiting Taiwan, lecturing the current Speaker 89 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: of the House with meeting with the Taiwanese president even 90 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: in California. Then you know, openly hostile. You know, statements 91 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: that China is ready to fight and showing their war 92 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: plan clearly against the US and proudly boasting about a 93 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: showdown with our navy in the South China Sea. Well, 94 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: their ambitions are and they've been very clear about it. 95 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 1: They believe that they are the world's only legitimate state, 96 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: and they've also said publicly since twenty seventeen that the 97 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: Moon and Mars are sovereign Chinese territory. That makes the 98 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: United States a colony in their view. And I know 99 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: that sounds ludicrous, but we ignore what the Chinese have 100 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: been saying. They actually declared a quote unquote people's were 101 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: on America and made twenty nineteen. That's a phrase that 102 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: has residents in Communist Party lingo. And we have the 103 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: president who says, oh, well, you know, they're not an enemy, 104 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: they're not even an adversary. They're just a competitor. No, 105 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: they're not a competitor. And we have seen this in 106 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: so many different ways, whether COVID nineteen or fentanyl. China 107 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: is assaulting the United States and we're not defending ourselves. 108 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: Well over a decade, the communist Chinese have been building 109 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: up has been a massive military build up. They president 110 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: she announced last week that he is preparing his nation 111 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: for war and up the defense budget by nearly ten percent. 112 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: So it sounds to me like they're serious. And I 113 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: do not believe, and I say this with some sadness, 114 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: I do not believe this president is capable of dealing 115 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: with a force China or Russia or Iran or North 116 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: Korea for that matter. I think that they will walk 117 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: into Taiwan and I don't think there'll be much US 118 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: assistance except for, you know, maybe some military equipment, and 119 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: I think that'll be about the end of it. And 120 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: it's not only the President. We have a senior leadership 121 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: in the Pentagon, both civilian and in uniform, that are 122 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: not prepared to deal with the world the way it is. 123 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: For instance, that spy balloon, it went over an uninhabited 124 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: Alaska and Canadian territory for essentially four days, and they 125 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: could have shot it down. Then they say they were 126 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: tracking it when this balloon took off from Hainan Island, 127 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: they saw it all the way across the Pacific, and 128 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: yet they didn't do anything. I mean, this is a 129 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: failure of the highest order. Oh how does China view this? 130 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: Because I know your book is about the coming collapse 131 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: of China, I'm not sure I believe a coming collapse 132 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: in China is inevitable. I think just the opposit. I 133 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: think that their territorial ambitions are about to be realized. Yeah, 134 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: Siegeon Ping has been acting much more aggressively because he's 135 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: got problems at home that he can't solve that. At 136 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: the top of it is plunging property market and contracting economy, 137 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: which this year may eke out some growth, but very little. 138 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: And they've got other problems like worsening food shortages, deteriorating environment, 139 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: falling currency, So that I think means he sees a 140 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,119 Speaker 1: closing window of opportunity. And by the way, they also 141 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: sit on the edge of the steepest demographic decline in 142 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: history in the absence of war disease, and that's forcing 143 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: Siegeon ping to act fast. And we have a Pentagon 144 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: that is oblivious to that as well as, of course 145 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: a commander in chief who's oblivious. How do you feel this? 146 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: But it's going to play out because it seems to 147 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: be accelerating in terms of the time frame. That's a 148 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: great question, you know. In nineteen fifty Dean Atchison, Secretary 149 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: of State, said we would not defend South Korea, which 150 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: we did. Nineteen ninety, we said we would not defend Kuwait, 151 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: and we did. We Americans don't know our own mind, 152 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: and unfortunately we've now got a commander in chief who 153 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: is not prepared to deal and think about these issues. Seriously. 154 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: I don't know how he's going to react Sean. But 155 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: the problem is the Chinese think that they can get 156 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: away with all sorts of horrific acts, and that means 157 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: they're going to try, which means they're going to destabilize 158 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: the world, which means that whatever we do, we are 159 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: going to face a horrible situation. And they now have 160 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: more military might than ever before. Let me ask you this, 161 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: do you believe that America has the military advantage over 162 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: China in a war on Taiwan? No, because China can 163 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: concentrate its forces where ours are spread across the world. 164 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: We've got a better military than China, but how much 165 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: better because it's been weakened in recent years. Yeah, it 166 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: is not as good as it looks. The CSLS, the 167 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: Center for Strategic and International Studies, has done the most 168 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: extensive war gaming over Taiwan in the unclassified sector. Then 169 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: they show US winning, but only after horrific losses, and 170 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: that's probably going to be the case. Wow, do you 171 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: think America would commit US troops on the ground and 172 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: Taiwan not until it's too late. If the US were 173 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: to put troops in Taiwan and offer Taiwan a mutual 174 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: defense treaty, and make clear declarations. China would not invade 175 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: for a lot of reasons, but we're not going to 176 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: do those things, which means we're going to leave Taiwan vulnerable, 177 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: which means China probably will attack, which means there can 178 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: be the worst consequences possible. Right quick break, We'll continue 179 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: more with Gordon Chang on the other side on Twitter. 180 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: It's Gordon GI Chang. If you want to follow his 181 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: Twitter account, Gordon Chang is Twitter addresses Gordon GI Chang. 182 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: If you go on Twitter, what did you think of 183 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: this intelligent League exposing US spying on adversary adversaries and 184 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: ally US officials There foreign allies scrambling to understand how 185 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: dozens of classified intelligence documents that ended up on the Internet. 186 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: They were stunned and in some cases infuriated. But the documents, 187 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: which appear to have come in at least in part 188 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: from the Pentagon, are marked as highly classified. They offer 189 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: tactical information about the war in Ukraine, including the country's 190 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: combat capabilities. Many of the documents seemed to have been 191 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: prepared over the winner for General milliy Of, the Chairman 192 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: of the Joint Chiefs and other senior military officials, but 193 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: let me ask you if if you play this out, 194 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 1: it looks like China is now simulating one hitting key 195 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: targets in Taiwan, so they're doing their part. Two Saturday, 196 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: by the way, Taiwan said, forty five warplanes either crossed 197 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: the Taiwan Straight Median Line, the unofficial dividing line between 198 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: Taiwan and China, or flew into the southwestern part of 199 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: Taiwan's air defense identification zone. That usually would be in 200 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: a lead up. They would want to know what systems 201 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: are triggered, want certain lines across, so that gives them 202 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: valuable intelligence if they plan a war. Yes, and China 203 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: also simulated an attack on a foreign force, which is 204 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: the United States. We know that they plan to go 205 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: after the US should there be a war in Taiwan. 206 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: And for them, the Chinese, to attack Taiwan successfully, they've 207 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: got to impose a blockade, and that blockade to be 208 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: successful has to be so large that it includes sovereign 209 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: Japanese territory. Japan is a treaty ally of the United States, 210 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: which brings US into a conflict. So this is not 211 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: just China versus Taiwan. This becomes region wide, and that's 212 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: because right now, China doesn't respect the US world, you know, 213 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: looking at the way they can't respect anybody. Look at 214 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: the comments of Macron over the weekend. You know, he 215 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: wants to avoid getting involved in any potential conflict between 216 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: China and the US over Taiwan. He wants to reduce 217 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: France's dependence on the US dollar. He made the comments 218 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: follow a three day state visit with President she himself. 219 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: And meanwhile, you know, now China is aligned with the 220 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: most hostile and serious threat Europe is faced in our lifetime, 221 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: and that is war in Ukraine. Yes, and Biden, when 222 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: he was campaigning for president, said that he would reinvigorate 223 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: America's alliances, specifically with Europe, and no European leader dared 224 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: to make a comment like that during the four years 225 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: of the Trump administration. But they're making them now because 226 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: they think that the American leader is feeble. So this 227 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: is a direct rebuke of President Biden, and we're going 228 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: to see more of this. Biden's policies have seriously undermined 229 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: American interests because we're actually helping China attack US. We're 230 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: doing that in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Brazil, you name it. 231 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: This is horrible foreign Listen, the Saudis made a calculated 232 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: decision that the US abdicated its role on the world stage, 233 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: and they decided to go with the country that they 234 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: thought would win the cold part of this war. They 235 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: went with China, and they went with Russia. And they 236 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: even put aside their differences which are deep and profound, 237 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: with Iran. And now they're doing the same thing with Syria. 238 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: They have picked a winner, and the winner is not US. Yeah, 239 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: and Trump had great relations with the Saudi Kingdom. A 240 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: matter of fact, Trump had the best Middle East policy 241 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: of any American president since FDR and Biden clearly has 242 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: had the worst. Biden ran on the campaign of making 243 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia pariah. Well guess what Saudi Arabia got back 244 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: at the US, and now we're being chased out of 245 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: the Middle East, where just a couple of years ago 246 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: we were the dominant foreign power. Yeah. Anyway, Gordon Chang, 247 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: were boys appreciate Avenue on the program at Gordon G. 248 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: Chang on Twitter If you want to follow his his 249 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: his account and to keep up with this, I am 250 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: telling you, I know, we talk a lot about Tennessee. 251 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: I know we're talking a lot about a two separate 252 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: abortion rulings. I understand we talk a lot about twenty 253 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: twenty four, but I am telling you, walk my words, 254 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: this is going to be topic a probably sooner than later. 255 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: And I actually pray that I'm wrong. I really do. Anyway, 256 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: eight hundred nine four one, Shawn our number. If you 257 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: want to be a part of the program, don't forget. 258 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: We have a live audience show tonight on Hannity nine 259 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: Eastern on the Fox News Channel. By the way, tickets 260 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: are free Hannity dot Com. Simple procedure to go through 261 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: to get there, and we'd love to see you. Everyone's 262 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: having a great time. By the way, it's so raucous, Linda, 263 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: you've seen this up closing personal It gets crazy. And 264 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm coming again in a week I think. I think 265 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: it's next week or the week after. What are you 266 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: gonna see a stand so I can point you out. Listen, 267 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit there. I'm gonna make a lot of 268 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: noise and sit there hiding on the sideline so nobody 269 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: can recognize you. Next time, though, I'm gonna sit right 270 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: in the front. Right in the front, We'll have a 271 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: little toss tow us little football team. You can't you 272 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: can't catch, So how are we gonna have I could 273 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: I just you know, I said that I would try. Okay, 274 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: so we can do that on live TV. And what 275 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: we'll towards the ball. Let's toss it towards the ball. 276 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: It's going to be great. Great. I actually it would 277 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: be very good TV. Be great TV watching you drop 278 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: the bring your Dojoe next time you and McGregor. That 279 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: would be cool. Oh yeah, sure, that would actually be 280 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: a very cool show him kicking my ass. You that 281 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: on national TV. The news is very depressing. I could 282 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: do with a little levity. I'm just saying I think 283 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: we all catch Listen. All right, let's get to our 284 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: busy phones. Let us say hi to Chris and New York. Chris, Hi, 285 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: how are you glad you called? Sir? Hi Jean, thank 286 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: you for taking my call. Have so much respect for 287 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: all all the great work do you do. Thank you. 288 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: It's an honor. It's an honor to talk to you. 289 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: Um real quick. Yeah, well I had a point I 290 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: one to make him as well as a question. Umm, 291 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm really curious what the Supreme Court, you know, what 292 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: the justices think about this, this entire you know, indictment, 293 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: because my viewpoint is that if this case somehow we're 294 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: brought before the Supreme Court, the only way to put 295 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: this entire thing to rest where people just don't pursue 296 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: political prosecutions is if the Supreme Court, in a clear 297 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: cut nine to nothing decision, can just in the clearest 298 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: way possible, say that this can never happen again, you know, 299 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: especially someone even facing one hundred and four years in 300 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: prison for something that's clearly non violent, if if there 301 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: way even was anything violated. But that's my viewpoint that 302 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: if this case were to somehow be brought before the 303 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: Supreme Court, in they in a clear sweeping nine to 304 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: nothing decision just can say this can never happen again, 305 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: that could just you know, hopefully put this whole this 306 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: pattern to a halt. So that's my one general point. 307 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: So I was kind of curious about after mister Trump's 308 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: attorney's appeal, after they try to get a dismissal, I 309 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: have my doubts about this New York judge granting a dismissal. 310 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 1: So I guess I'm curious once they start appealing that 311 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: decision what point did it leave the jurisdiction of New York. 312 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: You know, presumably it would go move up the chain 313 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: to appellate judges in New York. To be honest, I 314 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna do anything on this particular. Now 315 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: there'll be motions filed, but I don't think ultimately if 316 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: you got to a jury trial, which it should never 317 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: get to. But if that happened, I don't think you'd 318 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: see that until early next year. By the way, what 319 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: perfect timing, right in the middle of the primary season 320 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: and caucus season around the country, and then god knows 321 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: what else is going to happen. I mean, you know, 322 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: even though I've read the transcript of the Georgia phone 323 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: call again and again and again, and if you take 324 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, there's only one line that the media mob 325 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: and Democrats use. You only need to find eleven thousand, 326 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: however many votes, But they forget all the arguments ahead 327 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: of time, and it's a pretty thick transcript if you've 328 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 1: printed it out. There are a lot of other things 329 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: said in that call that nobody's taken issue with, and 330 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: Donald Trump laying out in very specific terms in many cases, 331 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: exactly where he thinks Georgia failed in terms of following 332 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: election laws and what needed to be done in terms 333 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: of ensuring that this was an election with integrity. So, 334 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think, as I said last week, I 335 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: think all of this combined, then you've got a special 336 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: counsel looking into January sixth, and then the document issue. 337 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 1: I think it's all designed to create a tsunami of 338 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: legal attacks against Donald Trump to either get him to 339 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: pull out or convicted. Although some people you know, suggest 340 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: that maybe they're just tying him up and knots so 341 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: he gets the nomination. I'm not really buying that argument 342 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: as much as others are. I don't think that's what 343 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: it is. I think they want to destroy him. That's 344 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: my take. No, absolutely, and I guess it. With respect 345 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: to the New York case, I'm just curious, like once 346 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: his attorneys try to get the case dismissed, which I 347 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: don't think the New York they'll try to get a dismissed, 348 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: they'll try for a change of venue. None of that's 349 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: going to work in my view. So after the judge 350 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: is not grant to dismissal, they would presumably appeal it 351 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: right to hire judges in New York listening. Yeah, that 352 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: that's all part of the process. But in terms of 353 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: it's scheduled to go back to this court that we're 354 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: talking about December, now, gotcha, Okay, I didn't. I didn't 355 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: know it's like pre trial at anything. Well, they could 356 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:21,239 Speaker 1: try to expediting considering the presidential run factor connected to it, 357 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: they might have some success there. Um. And I think 358 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: I think Joe Tacopina is a great lawyer. Also hired 359 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: another lawyer that's really good to be on the case 360 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: with him. So Um, I think they've got the right 361 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: people for the case. It's just a matter of you know, justice. 362 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: The wheels of justice turned very very slowly. Anyway, appreciate 363 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: the call, Chris, Thank you eight hundred and nine four one, 364 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: Sean if you want to be a part of the program, 365 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: Chris and Pennsylvania, Chris, how are you glad you called? Good? John? 366 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: Take him my ful Jean. I just want to make 367 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: a point that, like you were talking about President Trump, uh, 368 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: you're you're not buying into the whole thing that they 369 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: want him to win the nomination. Here's here's my take 370 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: on the whole thing. I think they knew exactly what 371 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: they're doing. They're playing chess here. They're way more worried 372 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: about Ron de Santis. And the reason I say that 373 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: is Ron De Santis is basically President Trump without the baggage. 374 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: They don't have anything on that guy. He doesn't take 375 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: any crap from the media, he doesn't pull any punches, 376 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: and he doesn't take their bait. They're more worried about him. Now. 377 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: What they do know is that Donald Trump has so 378 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: much baggage. They're just begging, begging for him to win 379 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: this nomination. If that's the case, why are they Why 380 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: are they trying to tie him up and then hopefully 381 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: get a conviction and hopefully get him in jail. That 382 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: that part doesn't make sense to me. Well, they know 383 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: they're not going to get a conviction. They don't care 384 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: that they're going to get Well, they're not going to 385 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: get one in New York. We don't know what will 386 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: happen in Georgia. I mean, if I pick three places 387 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: I would not want a conservative or not think their 388 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: odds that are going to be fair in terms of 389 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: many legal matters, it would be New York, DC and 390 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: Fulton County, Georgia. Those would be that'd be on my 391 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: tie ten lists right there. Well, I agree with you. 392 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: I agree with that. Well, look I'm listen. Rohnds santa 393 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: has been a great governor, and I think Trump was 394 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: a great president. Now in terms of you know, the 395 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: issues involving Trump and what you call baggage or you know, 396 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: how much of this was induced by the media, you know, 397 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: the Russia hoax that was three years of his presidency 398 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: and him having to fight back every day. It didn't 399 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: put him in a posture where he could focus just 400 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: on his work. Add to that the first impeachment, add 401 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: to that the double standard with Hillary and the Clintons 402 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: and the Bidens, et cetera. Add to that the second impeachment, 403 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: add to that all of the other you know, investigations 404 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: that were ongoing. I never saw one man attack like 405 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: he's been and he did a great job as president. 406 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: And I'll add that Rohn des Santas has done a 407 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: great job as governor. He did. I agree with all that, 408 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: But here's the point. I'm trying to make sure that 409 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: is all of that being said, all of that is 410 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: one hundred percent true. They're counting on him getting the nomination, 411 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: but they're also counting on. Because of all of that, 412 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: a lot of the Republican base is going to be afraid. 413 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: They're going to back away from it, and they're planning 414 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: on giving They're hoping that they're going to be afraid 415 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: or are they gonna say go out and then droves 416 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: and say I'm sick and tired of this crap and 417 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: we need for example, I mean, look what's happening in 418 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: the world China. We spent a lot of time today 419 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: talking about China, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, North Korea. You know, 420 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: these are real, clear present dangers. Then you add the 421 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: economic mess. You know, are you gonna want if the 422 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: world is on the verge of war? Do you want 423 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: the guy that is that is viewed as strong and 424 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: maybe even a little bit crazy that he would do 425 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: what he says he's gonna do, or do you want 426 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: a guy that you know has not been tested in 427 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: that arena yet. Now I think Ron, you know, one day, 428 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: will be president. But I'm just saying, you just it 429 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like I hear what you're saying, and I've 430 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: heard other people say this to me. I'm not convinced 431 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: that they are trying to do anything other than destroy Trump. 432 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: The obvious, I'm not convinced that they've thought through. We'd 433 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: rather go up against Trump than Rhonda Santis because if 434 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: they really believe that they leave alone, well, they would 435 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: leave him alone. However, I mean it's a double edged sword. 436 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: No matter what happens. In their eyes and their arrogance, 437 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: they win, no matter what happens, because they really believe, 438 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: and I believe it's all my heart, they believe that 439 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: not only will attaint him in dissuade Republicans for voting 440 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: for him again. Yeah, they're trying to bloody him up, 441 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. But let me let me promise 442 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: you something else. Whether the candidate is Donald Trump, Rhonda Santis, 443 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: let's see Mike Pompeo, Nikki Hanley, Tim Scott, Chris Christie, 444 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: which is a joke. Who else is it? Maybe Glenn 445 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: Yuncan we keep hearing rumors he may want to get in. 446 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: Whoever that dominee is. I can promise you with one 447 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:59,239 Speaker 1: hundred percent certainty that they will smear, slander, besmirch, and 448 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: try to royd them too. I promise you of course 449 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: they will. Oh, and it's going to be the same 450 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: old song and dance. They want to come medicare they 451 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: want to do this. They want to do that same 452 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: thing they've been singing for decades and none of it's true. 453 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: We all know that, but they they now there was 454 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: a report last week that they have a five hundred 455 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: page docier the left on Rhoda Santis and they will unleash, unleash. Hell, 456 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: let me just give you an example here of of 457 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: just the depth of hatred in terms of all things Trump, Democrats, 458 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: medium mob, you know, and and album Bragg running to 459 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: get one man, one organization, one family. I mean, just 460 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: just replace the name Trump without any Republican because that's 461 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: what they're going to try to do to any Republican 462 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: presidential candidate. They've ben tried to do it against Mitt Romney. 463 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 1: H if you recall anyway, just listen, because this put 464 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: it's just it shines a light on what I'm talking about. 465 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are wondering, whoever has 466 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: this job? Are they going to convict Donald Trump? Look, 467 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: that is the number one issue. The Times calls Brag 468 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: a talented prosecutor whose successful suit of the Trump Foundation 469 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: could be invaluable experience, but the investigation he'll takeover is 470 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: the chief Deputy Attorney General in New York State. I 471 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: oversaw some of the office's biggest cases from exposing a 472 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: legal behavior by the Trump Foundation. We know there's a 473 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: Trump investigation. I have investigated Trump and his children and 474 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: held them accountable for their misconduct with the Trump Foundation. 475 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: I also sued the Trump administration more than one hundred times. 476 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: We know that the DA investigating Trump. When I was 477 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: in the AG's office, I sued Trump over one hundred 478 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: times for his administration's misconduct and brought a case against 479 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: the Trump Foundation and held him accountable. Donald Trump pleaded 480 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: not guilty in the Manhattan courtroom again to thirty four 481 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: counts of falsifying business records and conspiracy. Conspiracy is a 482 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: very effective tool used by prosecutors to charge someone, charge 483 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: groups of people, and hold them accountable for all acts 484 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: and furtherance of the conspiracy. But the big question now arises, 485 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: who is the conspiracy? It's thirty four accounts of falsifying 486 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: records and conspiracy. Is thirty four accounts of falsifying business 487 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: records and conspiracy more information? We need to see what 488 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: was the purpose of the conspiracy, Who was in the conspiracy. 489 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: What were the so called overt acts. You actually have 490 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: to take a step in for servants of that conspiracy. 491 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: You don't actually have to complete the conspiracy. You don't 492 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: actually have to go through with it. You can just 493 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: intend to go through with it. Now, the conspiracy count 494 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: is important because it doesn't just give the district attorney 495 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: a legal platform to make alec to bring in the 496 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: cash and kill narrative, but it actually will likely be 497 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: what's called a speaking in guide MeV new information for 498 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: the first time out of court that the DA is 499 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: charging this as a false business records and conspiracy case. 500 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: We have a conspiracy count that lets you give a 501 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: narrative that describes the evidence that the grand jury heard 502 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: and voted on that there are thirty four counts of 503 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: falsifying business records and conspiracy. So add the conspiracy element 504 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: to this spiracy element here would indicate that he conspired 505 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: with others. Right, that there are other people involved in 506 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: this effort. People have talked about a miracle. I'm hearing 507 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: about a nightmare. This was a white lash. This was 508 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: a white lash against a changing country. It was a 509 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: white lash against a black president. In part, and that's 510 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: the part where the pain comes. I thinks some of 511 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: this cultural anger we should correctly identify as being racial animists. 512 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: America is crying tonight. I appreciate a good call. 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