1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: On this week's episode of Cultivating her Space, it's like. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: Taking a rock and dropping that rock in the water. 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 2: The ripples on our mental health are lasting for a 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: very long time, and so there's never been more of 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: an important time to look at how do we improve 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: mental health wellbeing, how do we treat it as prevention 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: and intervention not only in crisis, and how do we 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: make reality our friend as women that there's been a 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: great impact on our mental wellbeing, but there are things 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 2: we can do about it. 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: Today's episode is sure to provide you with motivation, inspiration, 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: or a fresh perspective. If you have any AHA moments 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: or appreciate anything from this episode, please leave us a 14 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: review to let us know we're on the right track. Also, 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: we release episodes every Friday, so be sure to subscribe 16 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: on iTunes and visit cultivatinghearspace dot com to access our 17 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: exclusive after show and other bonus content from the Patreon tab. 18 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 3: Welcome to Cultivating her Space, a podcast dedicated to uplifting. 19 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: Women like you. 20 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: We're your hosts. 21 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 3: Doctor Dominique Broussard, a college professor and psychologist. 22 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: And Terry Lomax, a techie and motivational speaker in a 23 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: world where black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood. Please 24 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything from 25 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: five roids to fake friends, and create a safe space 26 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: where black women can just be. 27 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: Hey, lady, is doctor dom here from the Cultivating her 28 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 3: Space podcast? Are you currently a resident of the state 29 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 3: of California in contemplating starting your therapy journey? Well, if so, 30 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: please reach out to me at doctor Dominique Brussard dot com. 31 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: That's d R d Omi ni Que b r ou 32 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 3: Ssard dot com to schedule a free fifteen minute consultation. 33 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 3: I look forward to hearing from you. 34 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: All right, lady, We are super excited for today's guests 35 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: in Cultivating her Space, so we're just going to jump 36 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: right on into this juicy conversation so you can take 37 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: notes and all that good stuff. Car McNulty, DPA is 38 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: President of Behavioral Health and Mental Wellbeing at CBS Health, 39 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: a leading provider of mental health and employee assistance program 40 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: solutions to members and communities around the globe. She oversees 41 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: a national team that spearheads the development of CBS Health 42 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: and etness programs, products, capabilities designed to offer individuals easy 43 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: access to quality, innovative treatments and meet people wherever they 44 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: are along the continuum of mental wellbeing. Car is a 45 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: highly regarded executive leader and population health scientist whose success 46 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 1: in driving population whilebeing outcomes spends the employer, government, payer, provider, 47 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: startup and education sectors. She's known for her ability to 48 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: integrate confirmed health science into practical business models that drive 49 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: measurable outcomes. What an impressive fancy bio. We have to 50 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: dive more into what that means, Car, but welcome to 51 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: cultivating her space. Where are so excited to have you here? 52 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm thrilled to be here. Thank you for having me. 53 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 3: Well, we will jump into this conversation with our quote 54 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: of the day. You need so much more than mental 55 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 3: health or well being in this era of discrimination, invisibility 56 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: and psychological warfare. You need an impermeable web of protection 57 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: for your mind. That quote comes to us from doctor 58 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: Rita Walker, who we've had as a previous us on 59 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: the show and who is the author of Addressing Unapologetic 60 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 3: Black Mental Health and Sokara. When you hear that quote 61 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: and we think about what it means to address mental health, 62 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: mental well being and the work that you do at CVS. 63 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: Can you kind of go back and explain to us, 64 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: because Terry read us your impressive resume, and I know 65 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: that a lot of our listeners are like, wait, I 66 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: thought CBS was a pharmacy, So can you explain to 67 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 3: us what CBS Health is doing to address mental health needs? 68 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 2: Sure? What a beautiful quote by doctor Walker. I'd first 69 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: start by saying, I'd boil that down. She's talking about 70 00:04:54,160 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: having a superhuman power shield up that protects that at 71 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: inner energy and deflect all the things that suck the 72 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 2: best out of us. And so I love that quote 73 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 2: because there's never been a more necessary time for us 74 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: as females, as women in community to have up our 75 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: superhuman power shield and protect that mental health well being. 76 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 2: So what I do in a nutshell is help those 77 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 2: we serve, whether that's through a CBS store, whether that's 78 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: through ATNA insurance, whether that is through a pharmacy, help 79 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: to get the care and support they need to treat 80 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: their mental health and their physical health as whole health. 81 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: That none of us woke up today and said, oh great, 82 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 2: today I'm just going to focus on my physical health, 83 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: or today I'm going to focus on my mental health. 84 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 2: We likely woke up and we're like, shoot, I gotta 85 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: get going. I got to make sure I get myself 86 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: to work. Oh, I got to pay that utility bill. 87 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: I have to get my kids here there. But often 88 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 2: as providers, as healthcare professionals, we separate people's mental health 89 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: from their physical health. So we at CBS Health bring 90 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: our heart to your health, and that means we're meeting 91 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 2: you wherever you're at on your journey that mental health wellbeing. 92 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: Our mental health needs as much care and feeding as 93 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 2: our physical health. And that everyone, absolutely everyone will experience 94 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: some type of mental health disruption, and that doesn't mean 95 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: that we're broken, that we're less than that were anything 96 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: but normal. So that's what we do. We bring the care, 97 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: the support, the services to communities, to members all throughout 98 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 2: the country. 99 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 3: Thank you for that explanation. I appreciate that, and I 100 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: do want to just give one clarification because I realized 101 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,119 Speaker 3: I messed up that Walker's the title of doctor Walker's book, 102 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: and I don't want to be that person, So I'm 103 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 3: going to give the correct title for our listeners. The 104 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: correct title is The Unapologetic Guide to Black Mental Health 105 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: Navigate an Unequal System learn tools for emotional wellness and 106 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: get the help you deserve. 107 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for that, doctor Dom, and thank you car 108 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: for your overview of the work that your team is doing. Now. 109 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: I know for many, well obviously for all of us, 110 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: it has been a wild past few years. 111 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: Right. 112 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: The pandemic just really caught us all by surprise, right, 113 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: And the pressure from economic and social conditions continues to 114 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: mount on all sides. And we really haven't had an 115 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: official mourning of those lost in the pandemic, and work 116 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: has not slowed down, bills haven't slowed down, and now 117 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: we're faced with this monkey pox whatever, whatever this is 118 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: going to be for us, there's another thing, right, And 119 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: so the question that we have for you is what 120 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: are some of the long term mental health issues that 121 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: we're facing as a society in these uncertain times. 122 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great question, you know. You're so right. 123 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: There is so much grieving that needs to take place. 124 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: And if you just think about the pandemic, the pandemic, 125 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: social unrest, monkey pocks, all of this is impacting everyone's 126 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: ability to be their best, and the pandemic itself has 127 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: touched everyone. What we have seen is that this pandemic 128 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: has caused us to have greater fear, anxiety, stress, And 129 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 2: actually six out of ten people would tell you that 130 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: the pandemic itself has impacted their total mental well being. 131 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: They feel less resilient, less positive, less ability to handle stress. 132 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: So we know it's impacting our one. We also know 133 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: there's something called micro losses that it's one thing. If 134 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: let's say the pandemic started and your kids had to 135 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: be at home, they did homeschool instead of going to school, 136 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 2: there's a loss there. And let's say you have a 137 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: college student and they didn't get to go to college, 138 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 2: there's a loss there. Or maybe your job changed and 139 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: it was a job loss. That's an impact. So what 140 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: we know is any of those situations on their own, 141 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: people can handle it is when we have these micro 142 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 2: losses that happen over and over and over as a community, 143 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 2: our resiliency goes down. So it wasn't just that your 144 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: kids started to be homeschooled, your job changed, your finances changed, 145 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: maybe one of your parents got sick, or you didn't 146 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: get to visit socially, you didn't get to go on 147 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: that family visit. Maybe your housing situation has changed. It's 148 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: all of the impact and what we're seeing as a 149 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: result of the pandemic. It's like taking a rock and 150 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: dropping that rock in the water. The ripples on our 151 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 2: mental health are lasting for a very long time, and 152 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: so there's never been more of an important time to 153 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: look at how do we improve mental health well being, 154 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 2: how do we treat it as prevention and intervention not 155 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 2: only in crisis, and how do we make reality our 156 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: friend as women that there's been a great impact on 157 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 2: our mental wellbeing, but there. 158 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 3: Are things we can do about it. Thank you for 159 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 3: that explanation. I really like that visualization and explanation of 160 00:10:53,520 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 3: micro laws. That visualization helps me to really see and 161 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 3: experience like what that really means, right to have all 162 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 3: those very losses and so we know that with all 163 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: of these very losses over the last three years, and 164 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 3: what you mentioned of wanting to find ways to work 165 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 3: on prevention and intervention, What are some of the ways 166 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 3: that CBS is keeping up with the demand for therapy 167 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: because people are saying, Okay, all of these micro losses, 168 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 3: I need help, and so what are some of the 169 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 3: ways in which cps A, CVS is keeping up with 170 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 3: that demand? 171 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the demand is real, and that if there's 172 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: any positive of a pandemic of social unrest, and it's hard, 173 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: it's hard to quantify any of that as positive. One 174 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 2: of the things we see is that you can't pick 175 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: up a paper, read an article, look on social media 176 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: without there being a conversation about mental health and you'll 177 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: hear me talk specifically using that term mental well being 178 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 2: because often in society we talk about mental health as 179 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 2: negative all the things that are wrong with someone's mental health, 180 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 2: instead of mental well being. That really looks at all 181 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: the things we have and we can build and do 182 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: to support our mental well being. Absolutely, there are things 183 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: like serious mental illness, schizophrenia, bipolar, substance use disorder. Again, 184 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 2: that doesn't mean because someone has a chronic condition that 185 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 2: they're broken. It doesn't it means they have a condition 186 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: that they need help managing. But everybody will experience something. 187 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: So we at CBS Health are really working to normalize 188 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: the conversation. One Again, like our physical health, our mental 189 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 2: health needs care and nurturing. And it's just like doctor 190 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 2: Walker's quote, you really have to think about how do 191 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: we protect our mental health well being and nurture and 192 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: care for it. And for some people that's ensuring that 193 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: you have quiet time every day. It might mean getting therapy, 194 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: it might mean making sure you're sleeping more and getting rest, 195 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 2: it might mean talking to a family member. The pandemic 196 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 2: changed that all up for us, and so what we 197 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 2: saw as a result of the pandemic is people really 198 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: needed care delivered differently, and they needed that care in 199 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: the way that worked for them who they are and 200 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: within their community, whether that was at home or in 201 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: their work setting. So prior to the pandemic, we saw 202 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: about one percent of those we serve using telemental health services, 203 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: so a really low percent. Now we see about sixty percent, 204 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 2: So we needed to augment and change to meet people 205 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 2: where they're at. What we have seen is many people 206 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: really lean into using telementtal health services because they can 207 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: feel connected via video, and we see that people are 208 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: willing to tell that provider a lot right away. We're 209 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 2: looking at each other. I am having this conversation with you. 210 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: You don't need to be in person. Now. It doesn't 211 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: mean that in person care isn't needed. It's just that 212 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: we see and we had to adapt that people really 213 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: lean into the use of technology. So we as CBS Health, 214 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: leaned into technology how do we ensure we provide virtual care. 215 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: Think of working mothers. You might have a easier time 216 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: scheduling and appointment when you can do it after work, 217 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: maybe really early in the morning, and you don't have 218 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 2: drive time to an appointment. So it's really looking at 219 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: how do we accommodate the needs. So that's one of 220 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 2: the things we've done. The other thing we've done is 221 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: we said, not everybody wants to look at mental health 222 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: either digitally or in person, so or virtually or in person, 223 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: So what are the resources we can provide online? So 224 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: through cdshealth dot com, we provide a whole host of 225 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: resources that help people do assessments on Hey, I wonder 226 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: what I'm feeling. Is this anxiety or do I feel 227 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: is it just stress? So we have a whole host 228 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: of screening tools. We also have resources and toolkits, whether 229 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: that's for you as a parent, as a caregiver, for 230 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: a person that's taking care of your parents and your children. 231 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: So a lot of resources online, and we also have 232 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 2: services online that really help to self navigate because some 233 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: people would like to self navigate their own resources before 234 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: they ask for help. And then finally, what we have 235 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: done is in by the end of the year, it'll 236 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: be about eighty four locations. Right now, it's about sixty 237 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 2: one locations. We have put actual licensed clinical social workers 238 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: in our menic clinic health hubs that see patients. The 239 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: turnaround time is really quick. You don't have to wait 240 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: very long. You can have an assessment on understanding what's 241 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 2: happening to you. That license clinical social worker can help 242 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: you look at your healthcare coverage to say, hey, this 243 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: is covered, here's what we can do. And you might 244 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: end up just seeing that licensed clinical social worker. But 245 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: let's say you have a higher acuity issue, maybe substance 246 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: use disorder, you're drinking more, or you're experiencing some other 247 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: type of chronuct mental health condition. That license clinical social 248 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: worker can help you make an appointment with the appropriate 249 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: care provider right in your community. So if you think 250 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: about what we're doing virtually digitally and with in face 251 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 2: person to person care, we're really democratizing access for people 252 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: to get the support and nurture they need without having 253 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: to jump through a lot of barriers. 254 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 3: As I'm looking, as you were talking, I went on 255 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 3: the website because I was like, okay, wait, no, I 256 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 3: need to see for myself like what this actually looks like? 257 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 3: And I am grateful that we are having this conversation 258 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 3: with you because I think the more resources we can 259 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 3: provide to our audience, the better. So I'm looking at 260 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 3: this and I'm one, does someone who has private insurance? 261 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 3: How are they able to access those resources? Like, what's 262 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 3: the difference between someone who has private insurance, maybe doesn't 263 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: have insurance and wants to. 264 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 2: Access these resources. Absolutely, you know, our services at CBS 265 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: Health are payer agnostics, So think of that as your 266 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 2: insurance we likely take because we take a multiple plethora 267 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: of numerous insurance providers. If someone doesn't have insurance or 268 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 2: is underinsured, we're going to help that individual get care 269 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: right there in their community because we know that's important. 270 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 2: Whether you have insurance or you don't have insurance, we 271 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: need to help people get care right there in their 272 00:18:55,280 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 2: community with providers that look like them, that understand their 273 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 2: community ethos, that understand what they need as an individual 274 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 2: and maybe as their family. So we really help people 275 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: get the right care at the right time with the 276 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: right provider. So, whether you have private insurance, an employer 277 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 2: sponsored insurance, or you don't have insurance, we really work 278 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 2: to make sure people get navigated to the appropriate resource. 279 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: That is super helpful and much needed. And we really 280 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: want to dive more into this conversation in just a bit. 281 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: But this is the point in our conversation, Car where 282 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: we're going to shift up the energy. I know you 283 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: probably do a lot of interviews. I don't think you've 284 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: done anything like what we're about to do now, So 285 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: I hope you're ready for it. Okay, I hope so too. 286 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: So fingers crossed? All right, So, Carl, because we recognize 287 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: and appreciate and celebrate the multifaceted woman on this podcast, 288 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: we personally believe that you can be bougie and ratchet 289 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 1: kra okay, and you can still be elegant right and 290 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: dance to strip club music if you so choose. So, Carl, 291 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: we want to invite you to the oh you Blatchett segment. 292 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: So do you take on the challenge? 293 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 3: I do. 294 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: I totally embrace the challenge. 295 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got it, We got it, all right. So Carl, 296 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: here's what you can expect. So we are going to 297 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: ask you three questions. We're going to share three sentence completions, 298 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: and then we have three photos. If you pulled up 299 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: that we found on social media, and we're just going 300 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: to ask you to choose one photo, and we want 301 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: you to provide a bit more context about the photo 302 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: that folks may not know just by looking at the photo. 303 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: So sounds good. 304 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: Without further ado, We're going to jump on and I'll 305 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: start off with the first question, and this question is 306 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: what's the best piece of advice or wisdom you've ever received? 307 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: And it can be about any topic in the world. 308 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 2: Hands down, don't make other people's reality yours. And what 309 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 2: that means is, for example, I have two high school daughters, 310 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: and often people say, oh my gosh, two high school daughters. 311 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: That's going to be terrible. How are you handling it? 312 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 2: You know what, two high school daughters is probably the 313 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 2: best thing that's ever happened to me. I am learning 314 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 2: and growing and experiencing life with them. So hands down, 315 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 2: try not to make other people's reality yours. 316 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: Yes, that is so good, Thank you. 317 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 3: Okay, Now I know your high school daughters are going 318 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 3: to really want to know the answer to this question. 319 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 2: Okay, all right. 320 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 3: So car we have four words for you. Okay, work 321 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 3: or two steps oh twerk? 322 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: Okay, Oh, we have to get your daughter's reaction when 323 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: they hear this it yep, yes mom. 324 00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, They're gonna say. 325 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: Get get it mom, get it mom. Now car. The 326 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: next question for you, our third question, third and final 327 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: question is what is the sexiest item you own? 328 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 2: Well, I'm a lover of glasses, and I think my 329 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: style is all about my glasses, and I think I 330 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 2: wear it's face jewelry, and I think it's very sexy 331 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 2: when it's done right. I mean, it's a way to 332 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 2: express ourselves. I'm going to say my eye wear. 333 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, as a fellow, I wear I'm just like so, lady. 334 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 3: If you are listening to us and not watching us 335 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 3: on Patreon, we suggest that you go and watch us 336 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 3: on Patreon so you can check out Kara's I wear 337 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 3: that she is rocking tonight. Those I notice those right away, 338 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 3: so I can imagine that you have lots. 339 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 2: Of beautiful options. So I'm a fan of the face jewelry. 340 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 2: I do like yours as well. Very very thank you. 341 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 3: Thank you, And so we're going to move on to 342 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 3: our sentence completion. Okay. One question or topic I wish 343 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 3: people asked me about more often. 344 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: Is this is pretty easy for me. I wish people 345 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 2: asked me more about how they could help advance the discussion, 346 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 2: the positive discussion around mental health and decrease the negative 347 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 2: discussion around mental health. We make it really a negative 348 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 2: discussion when it's just part of who we are. Our 349 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 2: mental health, it's just like our physical health. So I wish, 350 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 2: I wish more people ask me about that. 351 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: That's so amazing. What a coincidence. Car So the next 352 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: sentence completion is one tip I would share with folks 353 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: who want to positatively enhance the conversation around mental health is. 354 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 2: Truly ask those around you how they're doing. And I 355 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 2: don't mean hey, how are you? I mean Terry, how 356 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 2: are you? For the reals, I really want to know. 357 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 2: And when you say to me, you know what, I'm 358 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 2: really having a hard day, or I'm not feeling myself 359 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 2: or gosh, I just I really don't feel like I 360 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 2: am have the energy or desire to do the things 361 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 2: I have. Instead of me problem solving for you, my 362 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: job is to listen, to support, and to ask you 363 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: how I can help you. And that help might be 364 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 2: me suggesting that you see someone. So really asking each 365 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 2: other how are you? People want and need that personal connection. 366 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 3: I love that tip, thank you, and so our final 367 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 3: sentence completion. What I love most about myself is. 368 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: I hands down love that I am a supporter of women. 369 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: I can look at a woman and she might have 370 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 2: something on that I wouldn't choose, she might be rocking it. 371 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 2: The first thought in my head is, hot dog, she 372 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 2: is up, she is doing her thing, she is taking 373 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 2: on the world. I am a great supporter at women 374 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 2: supporting women, and I feel like that is something that 375 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: all of us need to empower, is the support of 376 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 2: one another, because gosh, we are important to the community, 377 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 2: to the environment, to the ecosystem, to the leadership. We 378 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 2: need women supporting women. 379 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is definitely super important. I'm glad that you 380 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: pointed out the fact that it can be someone that's 381 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: wearing something that you might not wear, or maybe they 382 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,959 Speaker 1: have a different perspective, even you're still supporting right. I 383 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: love that that's super important for us because we know 384 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: how sometimes some women can be right. It's not our reality, though, 385 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: but some women can be that way. So I appreciate you. 386 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: I appreciate you making a note of that. So Car, 387 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: now we have three photos pulled up that we found 388 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: of you on social media and what we want you 389 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: to do is we want you to choose the number. 390 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: You can choose the number out of one in three 391 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: and then we'll show you that one particular photo. So 392 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: what is the number of choice? 393 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 2: Two? That's my best number. 394 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: Oh, you're gonna love this picture, all right. So what 395 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: we'd love you to do is give us some context 396 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: for those that are only listening to this episode. Tell 397 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: them what you're looking at in just a moment, and 398 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: then give us some context about this photo that we 399 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: would not know by looking at this photo. 400 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 2: Oh. So this is a photo of me with my 401 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 2: two high school daughters, and this is when they were 402 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 2: both going to homecoming last year. And what I love 403 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 2: about this is neither of them had a date, I 404 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 2: would say, ate an official date. They went with a 405 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 2: group of friends. They both are very different in their style, 406 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 2: and they both were supporting one another, like, gosh, you 407 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 2: just look so great. And I'll tell you in this picture, 408 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: I just am a proud mother. This is that whole 409 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: point of not making others reality yours. And how lucky 410 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 2: am I to stand with these two lovely humans that 411 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: are teaching me what it means to be a mother. 412 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: So beautiful, Thank you for sharing with Yes, that's the 413 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: picture that came up. 414 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 3: I use your number, and you had some beautiful face 415 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 3: jewelry on I might add. 416 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, thank you like the face jewelry. 417 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 3: Okay, so Carl, we are going to dive back into 418 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 3: the interview. So thank you for playing. 419 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: Oh you blatch it? 420 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: I loved it. 421 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 1: So we know that. 422 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 3: With the announcement of Roe v. Wade, it has brought 423 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 3: up so many emotions for so many people. What are 424 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:44,239 Speaker 3: some of the steps that CBS Health is taking to 425 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 3: assist women, particularly black women, because we know that usually 426 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 3: black women and other women of color are oftentimes disproportionately 427 00:28:54,600 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 3: affected by these laws. What is CVS Health doing to 428 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 3: help women as they make these tough choices about their health. 429 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, we take it very seriously that we 430 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: have the opportunity to help support women in communities, and 431 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 2: so we know that this is a trying time and 432 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 2: as we talked about, people have different thoughts and feelings 433 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 2: about this topic. So our role is to ensure that 434 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: women have the support and care they need. And as 435 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 2: I talk specifically around mental health, that people need an 436 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: avenue to talk about this, need, access to appropriate therapy, 437 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 2: need support in their community and need a way to 438 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: get the care they deserve without having to jump through 439 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 2: a lot of hoops, and so we really work to 440 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 2: provide access to quality care within communities so we can 441 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 2: meet people wherever they're at on that journey. That also 442 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: includes you know, one of the things we started in 443 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 2: the pandemic is there were numerous issues, whether it was 444 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: the pandemic itself, or you were a parent at home 445 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 2: trying to homeschool your kids, or you had a loved 446 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: one die during the pandemic and you didn't get to 447 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 2: mourn in person. We started a series called Here for You, 448 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 2: and Here for You is a virtual platform. We have 449 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 2: a license therapist who leads that platform, and we have 450 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: specific topics that people can join and talk about these 451 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 2: topics guided by a therapist, and it might be you know, 452 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 2: what's happening in a certain community, what's happening with a 453 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 2: certain issue, what's happening how can we improve mental health 454 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 2: access to our teenagers or the black community, the brown community. 455 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 2: So that's one example of what we have done. We 456 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 2: have done it on so many different topics and what 457 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 2: we see is that people embrace the opportunity to join 458 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 2: virtually because we make it really easy for people to 459 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: come as they are. We focus it specifically on the 460 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: issues at hand, and then we talk about ways to 461 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 2: improve your resiliency to address the issues, and to get 462 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 2: additional care and support as needed. So that's an example 463 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,719 Speaker 2: of what we do because you're right, these are really 464 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 2: personal issues. There isn't a one size that fits all, 465 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 2: and we're here to support people where they're at, and 466 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: so that means means trying different strategies, addressing different options, 467 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 2: and making it easier for people to get care. 468 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: Very helpful. Thank you for reviewing that. And when it 469 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: comes to like the various forms of therapy that insurance 470 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: companies cover and how the client can receive coverage for 471 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: a form of therapy that may not be on the 472 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: list of services, do you have any insight or advice 473 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: around that. 474 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 2: So it's really important that we make sure we get 475 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 2: people to the right type of care. And often, I mean, 476 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 2: we expect people in mental health to know what they're experiencing. 477 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 2: I'm a woman who after a second my second child, 478 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 2: I'm in this field and had postpartum anxiety and I thought, 479 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, am I having a heart attack? You 480 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 2: know I had these just crazy chess pains, and I 481 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: didn't know. We don't know what we don't know, and 482 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: so one of the things we really do is work 483 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 2: to normalize the conversation, to help people with access to 484 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: screening tools, whether that's online or in person, and to 485 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 2: not have to know mean the difference between a psychiatrist 486 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 2: and a psychologist and a social worker. What we need 487 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 2: people to focus on is if you're not feeling good, 488 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 2: what could you do? You can go to any minute 489 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: clinic and we can provide a mental health screening to 490 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 2: help you, and you can do it virtually or in person. 491 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 2: In some locations. As I said, we have specific license 492 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: clinical social workers. So we have to really remove those 493 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 2: barriers because, as I said, my example, I'm in this 494 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 2: field and I was having this anxiety and to know 495 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 2: what to do. And so let's not make people have 496 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 2: to guess on what their issue is or who they 497 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 2: should see. Let's let the professionals help you so we 498 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 2: can get you to the rate point of care. 499 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 3: Thank you for that. I appreciate that response, and you know, 500 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 3: one of the things that is important in addition to 501 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 3: I really love that clarifying because I as a psychologist. 502 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 3: I get that question all the time of people being 503 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 3: confused on the difference between psychiatrists, psychologists, social work or 504 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 3: marriaging family therapists, license like all of the very nurse 505 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 3: practitioner who specializes in mental health like those All of 506 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 3: those things can be confusing. But one of the things 507 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 3: that I know for sure is that there aren't as 508 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 3: many mental health black mental health providers as there are 509 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 3: black folks who are seeking mental health services. And so 510 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 3: what are the ways in which CBS health is addressing 511 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 3: that disparity? And how can clients determine if their therapists 512 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 3: a good cultural fit for them? 513 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 2: Gosh, it's so so important because it's not just about 514 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: getting people access to care. Just access alone isn't enough. 515 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 2: It's access, it's quality. You have to make sure it's 516 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 2: a quality and it is a right fit. So, doctor, 517 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 2: don you know this so well? If I'm coming to 518 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 2: see you and you and I hit it off, I'm 519 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 2: already going to do better. I am already going to 520 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 2: do better. But if I come to see you and 521 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 2: I don't think you understand what I'm going through or 522 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 2: my situation, my outcomes are likely to be less than ideal. 523 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 2: So we really have to make sure that people have 524 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 2: access to providers that they have a connection with, that 525 00:35:54,880 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 2: are driving quality clinical outcomes and that really understand that 526 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 2: person and their needs. And you're spot on, we don't 527 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 2: have enough black therapists, and so we as CBS help 528 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:15,720 Speaker 2: do things like invest in colleges and universities and provide 529 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 2: scholarships to black brown communities to increase the number of 530 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 2: people we have going into the mental health field. We 531 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 2: do things like we have an initiative called Project Health 532 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 2: and Health Zones, and those are places that we offer 533 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 2: in different communities mental health services that are aligned with 534 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 2: community events taking place, and the providers in those communities 535 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 2: represent the population they're serving. And then we do things 536 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 2: like adding providers of color, whether it's black or brown 537 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 2: or LGBTQ to our network to ensure that we continue 538 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 2: to meet the demands of a very very diverse population. 539 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 2: This doesn't work if people can't find a provider that 540 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 2: they feel understands their needs and their situation. So it's 541 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 2: a growing effort. I won't say we have it all 542 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 2: wrapped up, but I will tell you are working really hard, 543 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 2: and I can't put in a bigger plug for people 544 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 2: thinking about going into the mental health field. We need 545 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 2: a diverse set of providers that understand community and are 546 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 2: interested in providing care and support. 547 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, thank you. Is there anything else 548 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: that maybe we didn't ask that you think is important 549 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 1: for our audience to know. We'd love to soak up 550 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 1: any other gins and closing so we can share them 551 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: with our audience. 552 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 2: You know, one thing I would I would love to 553 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 2: share is that Probably the worst thing I hear is 554 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 2: when people say, Gosh, I wish I would have asked 555 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 2: for help sooner, or when people say I just I'm 556 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 2: just trying to make it to through this day or 557 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 2: to my vacation, or I just have to make it 558 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 2: until I have you know, the weekend, or gosh, I 559 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 2: shouldn't feel this way. I have so much going for me, 560 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 2: and so and so has it worse. What I want 561 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 2: to say to people is one, no one has to 562 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 2: do this alone. We don't have to hold tight and 563 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 2: just hope we can make it to Friday, or make 564 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 2: it to a vacation or make it. We don't have 565 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 2: to do this alone. To asking for help and sharing 566 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 2: when we're not okay is one of the bravest things 567 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 2: we can do, and that is that is courageous. And three, 568 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 2: there is help and support available, whether it's through cbshelp 569 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 2: dot com, local mental health, community resources and community clinics, 570 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 2: or even your primary care provider. You don't have to 571 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 2: think that you're alone, that people don't understand, because there's 572 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 2: a lot of people like us that are here to 573 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 2: say it's totally normal. Let us help you. 574 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: Lovely clothing words. We appreciate that, and we'd love where 575 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: you let folks know where they can connect with you, 576 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: your team, what next steps you'd like to share with them, 577 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: and you know where they can find you on Get Connected. 578 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 2: Sure. So all these resources are available at cbshealth dot com. 579 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 2: You can find me on LinkedIn, on Twitter, on Instagram, 580 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 2: on Facebook at Kara McNulty. You'll also see that I 581 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 2: post a lot of blogs. I post a lot of 582 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 2: articles that really help to normalize the situation, especially for 583 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 2: women and women supporting women. We don't have to do 584 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 2: this alone. We are a beautiful, brilliant and fierce population 585 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,240 Speaker 2: and what better than to support one another in this journey. 586 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Carr. We really enjoy this interview 587 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 3: and we know that our listeners are going to take 588 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 3: away so many important gyms and so many important tips 589 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 3: on how to get connected and how CVS health can 590 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 3: help in their mental well being. 591 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 2: So thank you. It's been a thrill to be here, 592 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 2: doctor Dom and Terry. Thank you for having me, and 593 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 2: thank you for your advocacy for women for mental health 594 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 2: and sharing just your voice in this important conversation. 595 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 1: Thank you. Hey lady, It's Terry here from the Cultivating 596 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: her Space podcast. 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