1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: This This is the Talking Cowboys break streaming live on 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the officials Dallas Cowboys app. 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: What's Up. Welcome inside the s WBC Mortgage Studio. Welcome 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: to The Talking Cowboys break and Welcome to the end 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: of preseason. Who mercifully whoa? We got the whole crew. 6 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: We got a special crew in today Rob Phillips joined 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: by an all star cast, Nick Even, Mickey Spagnola, David Hellman, 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 1: Kent Garrison producing. I want to break down an All 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: Star game last night, No no, I said thirty seconds 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: on Twitter. What do you think is that time? Twenty 11 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: five too many to me? Well, let's move on. Let's 12 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: start talking regular season stuff. Let's do that for the 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: next hour. You guys can give us a call if 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 1: you would like. I don't know the phone number, Ken, 15 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: I know it's changed from training camp. It's eight eight 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: eight eight five two nine seven. Oh. It was a 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: call this morning, the old reliable. All right, how is everybody? 18 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: But he made it back and some some transportation. Yes, yeah, 19 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: I'm great man. Got six good hours asleep, Got get 20 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: your purple and gold on some breakfast tacos LSU plays 21 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,919 Speaker 1: here in Dallas and forty eight hours. I'm ready to go. Okay, Yeah, 22 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: everybody good? Nick? No, whoa tired? Okay? Okay, I like 23 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: your honesty, man, I'm gonna be honest. All right, Nick 24 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: just landed hustled on over here. I'm good. We're good. Yeah. 25 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: Well I'm good too, because we have like some substance 26 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: to get into now, you know, And not that these 27 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: last four games weren't, but I think we entered last 28 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: night's game. By the way Cowboys lose fourteen to six 29 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: to the Texans in Houston last night in the preseason finale, 30 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: I think we knew most of the spots that were 31 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: potentially up for grabs out of the fifty three and uh, 32 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody really want a spot last night. 33 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: We can get into that, but we can also move 34 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: forward and see what's next for this team as they 35 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: start to get ready for Carolina in a few days. 36 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that when you look at what 37 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: they tried to do, it sounds like, you know, first 38 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: play of the game, they just threw the ball deep 39 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: to Lenore. It was like they're gonna give Lance Lenore 40 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: an opportunity to do something. It sounded like they had 41 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: their minds made up, or looked like it with Deonte Thompson. 42 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: But change our mind. You know, Lance, we were gonna 43 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: throw you the ball a lot. We're gonna make you 44 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: do some punt returns a lot. And I don't know 45 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: if he had a decent game number wise, but I 46 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: still don't ten catches, I mean nine catches, sixty nine 47 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: yards that was. He was the star of the game, Dave. 48 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it's if you want to call, if you 49 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: if you could get it, if you could have a 50 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: takeaway from what actually happened on the field other than 51 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: this sucks. It was that they clearly wanted to put 52 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: Lance on tape. Do I mean he did punts? I 53 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,279 Speaker 1: think he even did some kicks. He covered kicks and punts. 54 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: He got nine receptions. They wore him out, Hey, yeah 55 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: they I mean he worked for it, he earned his 56 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: preseason paycheck, and we'll see what it means for him. Honestly, 57 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: I don't even know if changed my change their minds 58 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: the right word, because me personally, I think Deante Thompson's 59 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: on this team regardless. I mean, if he really maybe 60 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: he could really convince him to take seven receivers instead 61 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: of six. But but I don't know. UM, we'll see, 62 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: we'll see what it means for him. If I had 63 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: to guess, it's gonna be a waiver situation for him 64 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: where maybe he stays here on the practice squad, or 65 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: maybe he's put something that That's the thing we don't 66 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: talk about a lot either, is that he might be 67 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: putting a resume out there for somebody else. You know, 68 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: Lance Lenore could be a Arizona cardinal by this time 69 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: at the end of the weekend, for sure. Cuts on Saturday, Mick, 70 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: they gotta cut this thing down from I think they're 71 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: at eighty nine right now. Can you keep seven receivers 72 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: in four tight ends? I feel like if a running 73 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: team just you, you absolutely could you could. But why 74 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: expect not just a running team, But like, have they 75 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: really been that amazing all the way through the depth 76 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: chart at either position? I don't think so. It's almost 77 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: like they're just so average at both positions that you 78 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: just might as well keep a bunch and hope something sticks. Yeah, 79 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: this is Brian's argument on our show that why would 80 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: you keep seven, Mick when nobody's really separating themselves. It's 81 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: not like you've got seven alpha's in that group, you 82 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: kind of got a bunch of guys some some have 83 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: shown some things and some you know, they're they're rotation guys. 84 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: At this point, nobody's really surfaced, So I don't know. 85 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: And and then you factor in three quarterbacks too, because 86 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: I don't think Mike White has done anything in these 87 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: last couple of games to say, oh, we shouldn't keep him. 88 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: I think he's shown enough to me in the last 89 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: two games where he can you can develop him now 90 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: the backup spot, I don't. I would. I don't know. 91 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: I would sign a backup quarterback. You're there, You're there now. 92 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: I mean, that's to me. That's another takeaway from last night. 93 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush gets the start again for Dak who's rested 94 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: and struggles again. Yeah, I would. I just don't. I 95 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not trying to put you on the spot. 96 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: But do you have a thought as to who that 97 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: might be? No, I really don't. But but I'm if 98 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: I if you saw me, if he showed me a 99 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: list of who's available, I'm gonna just like excel sort 100 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: by experience and go there. I want to go there, 101 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: and I really because that's what I want more than anything, 102 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: because I want some experience in the room there. He's 103 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: not going to be that good. Whoever it's out there's 104 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: not going to be very good. But he's probably won 105 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: a game or two in the league, which is more 106 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: than you could say. I guess For Cooper Rush, I 107 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: just I don't know. I just don't see it. He 108 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: didn't necessarily have to be cut. He could be the 109 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: third quarterback, but I don't think they'll do that. I 110 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: think they keep Mike quiet. I have a hard time 111 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: articulating how I feel about that, because I'm not going 112 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: to try to convince you that Cooper Rush is good 113 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: or that you should feel good about him based on 114 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: what we've seen. But I just don't really love my 115 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: other options that much. ONNEST. I mean, like Mark Sanchez 116 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: is there maybe, and he is I think suspended for 117 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: at least a game or two or was that last year. 118 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. Like I've looked at this, I've looked 119 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: at this. Everybody's sending the RG three stuff. Did he 120 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: get cut? I think people expect him to get cut 121 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: because Lamar Jackson is so obviously going to be your backup. 122 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, RG three does he do a ton 123 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: for you. Jay Cutler's not signing on to be a backup, 124 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: like you're gonna have to give him a boatload of 125 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: money to come off of his reality show. I just 126 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: I don't see anybody out there that just makes me think, like, yes, 127 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: this is a definitive upgrade. I mean, sure Teddy Bridgewater 128 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: would have been. I don't want to pay a third 129 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: round pick for a guy that's not going to play, 130 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: and so I'm just kind of I just kind of 131 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: feel like Dak's twenty four, he's built like a linebacker. 132 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: He'll be okay, and if he's not, then you deal 133 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: with it when you can. And I don't love that. 134 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: But if they wanted to have a better if they 135 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: wanted to feel better about their options behind Dak, they 136 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: should have done it in March. They could have signed 137 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater in March. Nothing was stopping him, and they didn't. 138 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: And so yeah, I just kind of basically, I just 139 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: kind of feel like the Cowboys have made their bed. 140 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: Do they want to spend the money at that position? 141 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: I don't think so clearly. I think they've there and 142 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: they've tried. I mean, you mentioned Sanchez, They've had Sanchez 143 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: here before. They've had Matt Castle, they've had Brandon Weeden, 144 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: who played for the Texans last night. Those guys didn't 145 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: play well when they had a chance to come in 146 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: and play. They've gone the route of let's develop a 147 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: young guy behind a young guy cheaply and and hope 148 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: that he develops. And I don't I don't fault Cooper 149 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: Rush completely for the way he's played, especially the last 150 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: couple of games. Pass production has not been good at 151 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: all for him. The pick he threw the first picky 152 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: through last night, total whiff. I think on the right side, 153 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: Chaz Green broke down. I think a back miss to 154 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: block maybe, and he forces it into double coverage. If 155 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: you put him behind the Cowboys first team offensive line, 156 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: if he had to come in a regular season situation, 157 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: maybe maybe he's more efficient. I don't know, but the 158 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: numbers are vastly different than they were last year when 159 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: he led the preseason in the NFL with six touchdowns 160 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: and no picks. I just don't like his body language. 161 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: He just looks uncomfortable. He just doesn't look fluid out 162 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: there for some reason. And now it could be that 163 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: backup offensive line because they're terrible. Um, and there it 164 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: is and no way around it, and they better do 165 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: something about it. How they done something about it? A 166 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: nice little segue there may Yes, it sounds like they 167 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: have so Phillison, Uh, well man, from what we knew 168 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: last night I wrote this last night, is that like 169 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: you see this type of stuff happen in baseball all 170 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: the time, Like you know, I remember, uh, you know, 171 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: guys will get called in out of center field because 172 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: they got traded during a game. I've never seen that 173 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: happen in football. Yeah, if you don't know, Cowboys traded 174 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: their rookie corner chart Various Ward, a guy that I 175 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: think all of us thought had a good shot to 176 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: be on this team is not on the team then 177 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: certainly on the practice squad. They traded into Kansas City 178 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: for it. And Jerry Jones talked about this this morning. Um, 179 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: third year offensive lineman Parker Anger. I think I'm saying that, right, 180 00:08:55,000 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: Um Anger? Right? Anger? Yeah? Hi, n Um, he's at 181 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: a Cincinnati He's actually taken like right after Charles Tapper 182 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: and before Dak in the fourth round of that draft. Um. 183 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: Jerry said this morning that he's he started at guard 184 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: in this league. He was. He was a rookie starter 185 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: at guard before he tore his ACLU. He's moved around 186 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: a little bit at guard and tackle for them. He's 187 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: kind of been their utility offensive lineman in the two 188 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: years since his injury, and Jerry said they think he 189 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: could play center in a pinch. I don't think he's 190 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: ever done it in a game, but they think he could. 191 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: So he is a kind of utility man. And you 192 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: know it's worth saying they traded chart Various Ward for him, 193 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: So I mean they traded their fifth or sixth corner 194 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: for It's you're you're not getting an all pro here 195 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: that this is the type of stuff these teams do, is, Hey, 196 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 1: we need a corner, you need aligneman, all right, we'll 197 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: send you this guy, and maybe we both feel better 198 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: about our depth. Did Dean Edwards make this team now? 199 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: I wonder now, because because I thought, if you're gonna 200 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: bring in an alignment, I thought you're gonna have to 201 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: get another center in here. Um, does Cameron Fleming make 202 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: the team? I would imagine, I would imagine he by 203 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: default as your swing tackle for now. And I don't know. 204 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: I mean, we've talked about this again on the show 205 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: with Brian a lot like it's such a shallow pool 206 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: to find backup offensive line talent. If you've got it, 207 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: you hoard it, you keep it on your roster, especially 208 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: at tackle. This this kind of this makes me think 209 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: that they that Travis Frederick is going to go to 210 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: I R after the cuts, because they still might't go 211 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: with nine. Where who's your nine? Let's just say Frederick 212 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: he makes the team. So Looney's a backup. That's six, 213 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: Fleming seven, that this guy Anger is eight. You still 214 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: don't really have a backup center. I mean, Jerry did 215 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: say this morning that they think he could play center, 216 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: so I mean theoretically, and Zach, like Mickey doesn't like that, 217 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, you have to bag play center. You 218 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: have Zach Martin too, it's worth pointing out. Yeah, but 219 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: who's gonna play guard? Then? Anger and Anger? Yeah? Anger? 220 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: M Jaz Green's not in this list. No, he's no, 221 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: which I hear. I thought. Ours if they you go 222 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: nine offensive linemen to start, if they decide to I 223 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: R Travis, then that still leaves you with eight, and 224 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: that gives you that gives you Cadeem who you think 225 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: of him as a guard. But maybe he could kick 226 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: out to tackle in an emergency and anger and could 227 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: and yeah, so or are they done? Flemming? And yeah, 228 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: sorry Fleming And maybe they're not done? You know, claim 229 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: claims will go down over the weekend. Sunday is gonna 230 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,239 Speaker 1: be a really busy day. I really feel like it. 231 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: So trying to do, you know, try to help us 232 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: a little bit there, David. Now, yeah, no, if y'all 233 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: could just let me know what you need from me before? 234 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: What's the cutoff? Eleven am? And wow? You know us 235 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: an LSU fans a seven seven o'clock, six o'clock kickoff? Yeah, 236 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: and it's like eleven ams might cut off before. I can't. 237 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: I can't help you anymore. You can need me. You 238 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: need to get be in touch. By eleven I was Rob, 239 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna be us, Mick, can you help 240 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: little bit? I'm going to the game. Also, well me too. 241 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: When when's your cut off? Though, I'm guessing about two 242 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: two or this is gonna be Texas Live over there? 243 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Texas Live. I think we got a brunch reservation. 244 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: Oh boys, it's football Sea parents are in town. Jose 245 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: is back, My dog will be back by late, Like 246 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: what it's I think they're getting in town at four thirty. 247 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: He's been on a vacation. He's been on a vacation 248 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: far away, but he's coming back. Oh god, um that 249 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: game last night, I mean it was just like the 250 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: I said that puns on Twitter. I mean, were you 251 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: probably bringing some bad ones? Oh? Yeah, No. I mean 252 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: I felt guilty because I try to provide insight during games, 253 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: but I just I couldn't do it that I've cut. 254 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: That was the fifth. It was the fifth preseason finale 255 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: I've covered because we didn't have one last year because 256 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: of Hurricane Harvey. And I'm sure that they were all terrible, 257 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: but that one really felt like it took the cake. 258 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: I think this one was pronounced because we had a 259 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: preseason finale a week ago, four days ago. Yeah, good point, 260 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: But we've had two and four days and that's a 261 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: lot of preseason finales. That's a lot of That is 262 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: a lot of backs, true, and you have a dress 263 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: rehearsal type game, You're okay. Four days later with that, 264 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: you've got you got to see Dak and typically maybe 265 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: Zeke play into the third quarter or at least a 266 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: couple of series. I didn't get any of that. I 267 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: didn't understand why the rookie receivers in there. I was like, 268 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: why don't you gallop your ass over to the bench. 269 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: I did see that pun from you. That was what 270 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: squat like, why was he in the game? He told 271 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 1: us After the game, the coaching staff gave him the 272 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: option of do you want to play a quarter or two? 273 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: He said, I want to play two quarters? Stop said 274 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: I need the reps. I like, I like to hear that. 275 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: But when you see him get wrapped up there, Mick 276 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: want to catch right, but by the ankles, it's like, 277 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: get us up, Get up, Get up players, players, players 278 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: want to play. That's the coach's job to be like, nah, 279 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: you're good, we don't need you. You know, I had 280 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: an interesting site there before the game that I don't 281 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: think i'd seen before. I don't know if y'all y'all 282 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: caught this. Lance Lenore's first tackle of the day was 283 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: tackled by a bag of balls. YEP, I don't know 284 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: why that bag that probably holds um twenty kicking balls 285 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: or whatever sitting right on the field and Lance Lanor's 286 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: trying to you know, so last week it was Byron Jones. 287 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: He runs into this this week. It's a bag of balls. 288 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: He trips, he falls, almost takes out someone else, and 289 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: you're like, this is gonna be this guy that that 290 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: helped him out though, because he made a special team stackle. 291 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: It's true he did. What y'all think about that hit 292 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: at the end of the game. I heard we talked 293 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: about it in the tunnel. I didn't see it because 294 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: we were down at field level, y'all. You know, we're 295 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: getting ready to do like postgame videos. I heard it 296 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: was kind of it's just yeah, you know I'm talking 297 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: about making see it. Yeah. Um, I mean it's a 298 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: weird thing because you're you're supposed to block the guy. 299 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: You don't want him to catch the gunners down there 300 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: trying to catch the ball at the one or two, 301 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: you're trying to block him. I don't know, did he 302 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: target him, end, I mean, it was it was. It 303 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: was a pretty bad helmet to helmet. But it ended 304 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: up being a bad helmet to helmet. But the guy 305 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: low his head, and yeah, I thought he got him. Now, 306 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: I know you don't have to do helmet to helmet. 307 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: I thought he got him with the shoulder, but he 308 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: but he did hit him in the head um, but 309 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: the guy lowered his head and I think that's got 310 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: to be considered when they when they call that penalty. 311 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: And kind of a related note, I'm just convinced if 312 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: you if you just run a deep like a deep 313 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: slant or a deep end three times and you throw 314 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: the ball in the air and your guy goes up 315 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: to get the ball, he's either gonna catch it or 316 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a penalty. Yeah, I mean, here's gonna 317 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: be a penalty. You can't hit the guy the flag on. 318 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis want the safeties to be great. There's no 319 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: no more great safeties anymore. And they're gonna be broke, Yeah, 320 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: because of the way the rules are. I don't know 321 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: how you played this game for those guys, I really don't. 322 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: I don't know where they can hit. You know, they're 323 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: gonna give up plays and we're gonna be sitting there 324 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: and go ahead, guys soft terrible. Well he didn't have 325 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: any money eight defense. I think you're and I mean, 326 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a different game. I'm sure, you know, 327 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: like with everything else, it'll it'll evolve. They'll figure out 328 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: how to call it, and they'll figure out how to 329 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: coach it. But it is it's weird when you see 330 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: those types of things that look like clean football players 331 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: get flags. Get the feeling we'll see more in preseason 332 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: than we do in the regular season starts. That's what 333 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: I've been saying from the beginning. It seems like they 334 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: over officiate it, I think, to enforce the set the tone, 335 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: and then it's I thought there was a flag on 336 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: every play. I was surprised a lot there. It wasn't 337 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: as many when you look at the final There might 338 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: have been some declined, but I mean I thought there was. 339 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: You know, if I can turn on the the page here, 340 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: I'd like to turn the page of this game. Man, 341 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: as we are deeper in the weeds on the game, 342 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: we can do that. We can turn the page. You guys, 343 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: just twenty one flags in the game. That's a lot. Yeah, 344 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: Texans had twelve and the Cowboys at nine. Cowboys at nine, 345 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: I thought it would be an eighteen. I wonder how 346 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: many were on special teams every every play, every play? Right, Yeah, 347 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: pretty much? And I thought Lenore had a pretty good 348 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: game special team wise, because he had that pretty nice 349 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: nifty twenty two yard return. They gave him twenty three 350 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: yards for the game on five returns. Oh yeah, great, 351 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: not great. He didn't didn't bobble anything, but there was 352 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: a lot of fair catches though. Yes, yes he was 353 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: solid in the game. But again, you're gonna keep seven receivers. 354 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: He doesn't. He does nothing for me. I would cut him. 355 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just I think there's another Lance Lenora. 356 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: Every year. There's a guy like that to make a 357 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: rector fifteen years ago. I mean, there's somebody that's just 358 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: been around. It's a try hard guy. I just don't 359 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: think he'd ever play in the game. It's it's a 360 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: really good analogy for the whole thing. Actually, because I 361 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: saw Lewis Riddick, the ESPN um guy that you know, 362 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: former scout. He's on ESPN now. He had this tweet 363 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: last night where he's like so many snarky tweets about 364 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: how bad these games are, Like, you know, how about 365 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: show some respect for these guys that are like given 366 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: busting their ass, given it, they're all to like, you know, 367 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: achieve their dream. And he's right, and it's right. It's 368 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: a good point. It's you know, all respect to these guys. 369 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: They're busting their ass and Lance Lenoor has been here 370 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: more than anybody on this team going back to February, 371 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: just busting his ass. But at the same time, you 372 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: can still call it like it is and say it's 373 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: not entertaining football. It's just not. I'm sorry. I respect 374 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 1: the hell out of the guys for what they're trying 375 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: to do, but these games are pretty gross more often 376 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: than not. And in the same vein, I respect the 377 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 1: hell out of Lance Lenor. I'm not sure what he 378 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: does for your fifty three right now, Like I don't 379 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: know what skill said he has that another receiver doesn't. 380 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what he would do on a game day. Yeah, 381 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: more so your forty six. Yeah, it doesn't make sense 382 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: to me, and that, you know, all credit to you, 383 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:45,959 Speaker 1: but I just don't see it. It It seems like a 384 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: poor man's Terrence Williams. And he's not that rich either, 385 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: you know. I mean it just kind of I think 386 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: I think I trust Lance a little bit more to 387 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: do a little bit more Like I'm not putting Terrence 388 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: in the slot, probably at least not as often as 389 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: I would with Lance. And I wouldn't ask, wouldn't ask 390 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: terrence to return anything that's true. But are you right 391 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: about that? But again, I just I can think of 392 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: a skill set that all these receivers that are going 393 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: to make the team have, and I don't know what 394 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: Lance does that's different from them. That's better. I think 395 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: he passes waivers. I think teams are gonna look at 396 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: it and go, well, and that's the respect the hell 397 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: out of him. I think every team in the league 398 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: probably has a guy like that. They're like, yeah, like 399 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: he's great for scout team and he'll be on our 400 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: practice squad. Well, Nick said it physically symbolical leists. Turn 401 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: the page, let me come back. 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Right, 454 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: had a fun stop at Bucky's and a fun stop 455 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: at whatter Burger real quick, and yeah, got home at 456 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: like four or fifteen, one hour after the bus pulled in, Mick, Right, yeah, yeah, 457 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: and that guy stopped too. I realize you made a 458 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: stop at Bucky's. Huh, yeah, he did forty five. I 459 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: think he needed to go. I don't know why you 460 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: just walk in the back of the bus. I think 461 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: he needed a break maybe, yeah, Okay, it's the triumpher. Yeah, 462 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: I know. But it was like two or two two 463 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning when he when he took a break. 464 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: Everybody's back safe. I had my seat belt one, did you? 465 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well that's good. It's good safety first. Really 466 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 1: huh really, it sounds like it's safety last. The priorities 467 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: Here're not on this team. You want to go there? 468 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: Safety never hunt for Red October. That's Steven. Let's go 469 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: Sean get after style. Let's go, let's find one, he said, 470 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: two positions. Steven Jones said that they were really hunting 471 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: two days ago. They've added an interior offensive lineman. Sounds 472 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: like they got one. Is a safety next a safety? 473 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm not getting into you know, necessarily. Yeah you are 474 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: because Nix on this show. Yeah, you're going. It's fair. 475 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: You are fair. So is uh Dron Johnson gonna make 476 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: this team? I thought he played well in the first 477 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: ancle last night. Yeah, I mean, okay, yeah, Earl Thomas, 478 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: I know, we know it's there. It'll all. It's gonna 479 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: be there forever, at least until the trade deadline expires. 480 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: But I really don't. I'm not convinced they're going to 481 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: do something. I'm saying anything I'm finding I'm starting caliber 482 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: guy off waiver or something. I'm not convinced because nothing. 483 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: They think they're gonna get their starter back for week two. 484 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: So really, you in a best case scenario, you gotta 485 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: make it through the Panthers game with Jeff Heath, Cavon Frasier, 486 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: Jeron Johnson and whatever. Tyree Robinson, sure you could do that. 487 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: I don't think it's the best idea. I've ever heard, 488 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: but you could um feeling they think he can go, right, 489 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: that's what they said. He was in a sling yesterday though, which, like, 490 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: I don't know people who can play in a week. 491 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: Maybe he start supposed to be wearing a sling. Maybe 492 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,959 Speaker 1: it's just precautioning. He says he can harness it up 493 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: and play, but we'll find out. But yeah, depth wise, 494 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: it's not great. It's not Are you sure that Xavier 495 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: Woods is ready for a week two? Not at all 496 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: with a soft tissue deal. I've said it a bunch 497 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: of times on our show. I'm not sure Xavier Woods 498 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: is ready for anything. I just don't. I think he's 499 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: a good role player, but I'm not one hundred percent 500 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: sure that he's ready to be the starting safety anyways, 501 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: even if he was healthy, he hasn't really shown a lot, 502 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Hasn't shown that 503 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: he gets beat a lot either. Yeah, it's been kind 504 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: of steady back there. He was working on the chords 505 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: before the game, yeahs and moving pretty well too. So 506 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: that's actually good getting nine days from kickoff. Yeah. Yeah, 507 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: it's just how careful they are with those I know, 508 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: because what does Garrett always say he heard it again? 509 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: Then it's six weeks and all of a sudden his 510 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: season is kind of like what it was for Cheeto, 511 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: right Cheeto, And yeah last year, Sean had a couple 512 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: times last year. See, I think I think what happens 513 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: is because this is the season opener. Like if this 514 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: was week four, week five and he had a strained 515 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: hamstring growing whatever he's got, would we be sitting there going, oh, 516 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: they got a trade for a safety. No. But because 517 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: it's the season opener, I think everybody gets it cited 518 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: about oh, what are we gonna do at safety? So 519 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: I kind of agree, which I mean, well with the 520 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: way the safety situation is right now. If if Xavier 521 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: Woods got hurt in week five, I think you would 522 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: kind of panic because they're so little behind him. But again, 523 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: if you think he can be back in a week 524 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: and or you know, after the first week of the season. 525 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: Chris Richard likes Starn Johnson. That's why he's here. We 526 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: know how the NFL works with you know, coaches and 527 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: players that they trust. I mean, maybe you claim a guy, 528 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: but you already gave away a nice depth piece for 529 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. So do you want to do another 530 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: trade for a guy that you think you only need 531 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: to get through a game. I don't know, what about 532 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: a conditional draft pick. I mean they've done it. Yeah, 533 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: they do it all the death injuries. They did it 534 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: for Bryce Butler a couple of years ago back Castle. 535 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,479 Speaker 1: You know you probably will get a couple. They did 536 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: it for Ben Wickery just last year. I think you 537 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: know it was like a seventh if he was on 538 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: the roster for a month or something like that. Okay, 539 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: is there any other position that you look at as 540 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: they look towards cuts on Saturday and say trade or 541 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: claim they need to upgrade here? You know one thing 542 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: that was I thought was interesting. I'm gonna talk about 543 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: defensive tackle. Uh. You know, Garrett never says anyone's name 544 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: when you ask him who looked good. He doesn't go 545 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: down that route. He did last night. He did. They 546 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: asked him who did anyone stand out? And he said, yes, 547 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: Karen Reid did. Karan Reid showed out in that game. 548 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 1: He had six tackles on the sheet, and sometimes, you know, 549 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: those guys can stand out more than just making tackles. 550 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting that he said that. It 551 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: doesn't mean he makes the team. That tackle position is 552 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: kind of tricky because Brian Price, jahad Ward can cony 553 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: Ealie slide inside. What do you have to do with 554 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: Daytona Jones. Yeah, Antoine Woods is just chilling. I mean, 555 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: he's not going anywhere. I don't I don't think. No, 556 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 1: they didn't even play him. That's the coolest. That was 557 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: my biggest takeaway from that whole game last night was 558 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 1: that I didn't know Antoine Woods was on this team 559 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: when we went to training camp. To be perfectly honest, 560 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: either I'm with you. He he he took a swing 561 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: at Frederick. Yeah, that was the guy the first time 562 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: I heard of him, right in one on one. Don't 563 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: do that again. He had a he had a ball 564 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: cap on from the word go last night, Like that's 565 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: how good that they thought he did it. That's it, 566 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: that's earned in your spot. So Katie Cannon, get that 567 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: same thing, Katie. He played, he played, did he he 568 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: got he got in here, he got in He's not 569 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: on the sheet of did not play. But I didn't 570 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: play him. That was more of just like what'd you say, 571 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: just now, Ron Reid, he's a Princeton guy. Oh yeah, 572 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: just a fun fact. Oh yeah, not that that's gonna 573 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: help him make the fifty three, but hey go Tigers 574 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: helped him get here. Did uh jehad Ward with his 575 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: two back to back sacks change the narrative on him? 576 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: I really feel like it was the guy that did 577 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: two sacks about ten years ago in a game junior. 578 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: He was a couple of those were just wow, this guy. Now, 579 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm still not gonna make the team. D Ward's interesting 580 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: because you talk about a guy that, like we thought 581 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: it was on his way to earning a spot in 582 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: spring starting. Baron Nelly thought he was now pads you 583 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: need the pads to come on and see. But I 584 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: thought he really had something there. Maybe maybe it does, 585 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: but uh, Daniel Ross I think has probably played better. 586 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: That's true as these last couple weeks have gone on. 587 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: You know, so you get to Carolina, it's gonna be hot. 588 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: It's gonna be hot in that first you know, it's 589 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: gonna be three o'clock kickoff. They're gonna probably wear blue jerseys. 590 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: It's gonna be hot. You typically you want to have, 591 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: you want to have a little bit deeper on your 592 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: own defensive line. If you can, you might not have 593 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: more than eight. Well, let's just say they have eight 594 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: eight defensive linemen for Carolina. Who we got here? That's honestly, 595 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I'm not gonna be one hundred 596 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: percent right, But I really I feel good that I 597 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen at most of the spots on 598 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: this roster. Like, I feel pretty confident. I don't know 599 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: what to do with the defensive line. And it's really 600 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: more about the defensive tackles than first and ten at 601 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: the twenty five yard line camps in the shotgun, Who 602 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: I mean, who we got? We We've got We've got 603 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: de Marcus Marcus Lawrence. And if it's first and ten, well, 604 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: you know there's tough DeMarcus Lawrence, Randy Gregory, Tyrn Crawford, 605 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: and Malie Collins would be my guest. There you go, 606 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: I like, Noah, Antoine Woods. You think Malik's ready week 607 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: one to step in and starts. That's what they've told us. 608 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: Ralford is now a tackle just like that. I mean, yeah, 609 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: Randy Gregory, because Gregory did that those four. Then backing up, 610 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: you have Taco, you have Antoine Woods, you have Dace, 611 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: LaRence Armstrong and another tackle. That's that there there, there 612 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: you go? Or award? Is Dayton Jones going to I 613 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: R which means he has to be on the team 614 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: on Saturday to do that? Yeah? Is Jihad Ward gonna 615 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: make this team? Has Daniel Ross done enough? Do you 616 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: value the fact that Cony Ealy can play two positions? 617 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: Mentioned Brian Price? Yeah, I didn't even honestly, maybe the 618 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: only true one on this whole team really, I mean 619 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: kind of like receiver, nothing got a lot of guns. 620 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: I think Woods is a one, but he's like five 621 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: eight and a half. Like he's not. He's not Brian Price. 622 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: Brian Price is a bold three thirty. Look, I get it. 623 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: I'm he's probably about six feet. Don't you think Stubby 624 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: does he looks these rosters? Lie? Does he look like 625 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: just a monstrous spade space eating defensive tackle. He's listed 626 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: at six one three twelve. He's the proverbial Pepsi machine 627 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: with arms that is fly. So look, I'm five he 628 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: ate five eight. I'm five six. I'm not trying to 629 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: criticize anybody for being short, but Antoine Woods is not 630 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: a tall football play and that's what makes him a 631 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: great story, right, He's I love him, He's he's great. 632 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: Charles Tapper wasn't mentioned in anything there. I love Tap. 633 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: I don't see him making the team. This is this 634 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: is kind of like receiver, right. I think he does 635 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: have practice squad eligibility, though I don't know about Charls. 636 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: Tapper has only played in three two games in his 637 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: entire career. I think two. You get towards the back 638 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: of this D line situation, Mick, and it's hard to 639 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: maybe separate some of these guys. Oh, it really is. Yeah, 640 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: And um, it's going to end up being personal preference. 641 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:27,239 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, what are you looking for? Um? You know, 642 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: we watched Ross play last year. Did he do anything, 643 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: he got hurt? Did he get hurt? Eventually he did? 644 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: He did right, But I think they brought him he 645 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: was another guy. They brought him from Kansas City, I believe, yes, yeah, 646 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: And it seemed like he was you know, they brought 647 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: him in. So we kept waiting for him to do 648 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: something because obviously you won't only bring a guy in 649 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: if you like him. But I want to say he 650 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: was inactive for like most of the first month he 651 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: was even here. Is it me or is it just 652 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: like a mentality? Of these guys that are like practice 653 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,479 Speaker 1: squad and then the season's over and then they're like 654 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: you resign them, and they're just kind of guys you 655 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: don't even know if their first second year guys, because 656 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: they're just kind of around and they they you never 657 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: they never wild you with anything. It's it's Lance Lenore, 658 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: it's Daniel Ross, it's Cadem Edwards, it's Duke Thomas, it's 659 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: Justin March Lillard. It's those guys. And it's almost like 660 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: they have such an uphill battle because you've already kind 661 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: of put them in this category of like you weren't 662 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: good enough last year and you know now we've drafted 663 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: since are you really that much better? Yeah? Which, but 664 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: justin Marshall Lillard is he makes a lot of plays. 665 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: Justin Marsha Lillard is interesting for me because there's always 666 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: a guy in these games who like you're watching the 667 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: game and you're like, you're too good to be out here. 668 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: And that was justin Marsha Lollard last night. I think 669 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: he's on the team. I really do. Well. I think 670 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: you're right, Except I had a thought last night that 671 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: you talk about how deep this linebacker corps is Chris 672 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: Covington's a guy they drafted that they like a lot. 673 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: Maybe seven linebackers is too many. Maybe maybe Justin marsh 674 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: Lillard is another guy like char Various Ward who you 675 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: could trade for a piece. Like he's good enough that 676 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: a linebacker needy team might be willing to give up 677 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: something for him. I don't know. I mean I would 678 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: put him on my team for sure. I think he's 679 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: been solid all through the preseas. This isn't related at all, 680 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: but what a Seattle need offensive lineman? I mean, they 681 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: can't help them there. They don't. They don't need a 682 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: running back. They need a healthy running back. They've got 683 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: like eight, all of whom have an injury, uh receiver. 684 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, that would be hard to make a trade. 685 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, the guy's gonna show up on Monday. Wow, 686 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: that's a bold I wonder show. I wonder about that 687 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: or maybe Tuesday et. Yeah, we're not. We're not getting 688 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 1: out of this show without talking about that. But go ahead, guys, 689 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: don't guys don't lose money. Oh yeah yeah, oh oh 690 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: you thought niggas like promise, yeah, real promise, that's what 691 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: I thought. Yeah, yeah, right, I knew what Mickey meant, Well, 692 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: I mean that's Monday, Okay, Tuesday. I agree with you, Mickey, 693 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: I really do. But if there is a guy who 694 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 1: might buck that trend, I really think it could be Earls. 695 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: He's made a ton of money in his career. Yeah, 696 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 1: you can never make enough money. He's made a ton 697 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: of money in his career. And I've never met the man, 698 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: but he seems very proud. He chased down Jason Garrett 699 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: to ask him to come sign him. He bait like 700 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: in the in the locker room after a win that 701 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: kept the Seahawks in the playoffs. He was talking about 702 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 1: how like, when this team kicks me to the curve, 703 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: like I know they don't want me for the long term. 704 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: He's missed the entire offseason for it. He just I'm 705 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,919 Speaker 1: proud too, but proud enough that I think I've earned 706 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: money at the end of the day. At the end 707 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: of the day, I think you're right. But I think 708 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: if there's a guy who might have the chutzpah to 709 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: not show up, it could be him. I'm just saying, 710 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see, we'll know, we'll know starting Tuesday, 711 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: and he might not have to play because he hadn't 712 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: on anything. I'm gonna say he won't be able to 713 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: for at least a week or two, I would guess. 714 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: And he's gonna make five hundred thousand dollars. That's a 715 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 1: lot of money show up, But like on a third 716 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: you can show up Thursday and you just have to 717 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 1: be on the roster month that week. Yeah, the other 718 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: fun Well, not to get in the weeds, but I'm 719 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: fascinated to see what happens with Khalil Mack. Is he 720 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: really gonna sit out? He he is? Earl Thomas has 721 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: made big boy money or Khalil Mack has not, like 722 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: he has not. He's on his first contract. Still, as 723 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: far as I know, it'll get it'll it'll go down. 724 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,439 Speaker 1: Don't you think Donald got paid got obnoxious money today? 725 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: And when you're that good, you're just gonna let a 726 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: guy sit. I don't know this, can't imagine it. Maybe 727 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: they'll trade him this weekend. I don't I don't know, 728 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: I don't know anything. I'm just excited to see what happens. 729 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: All right, let let's grab a phone call before we 730 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: get out of here. Keishean? Oh? We lost Keshan? As 731 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: you said that Rob let's hit the break. Then five 732 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: five to two ninety seven is the number. Let's take 733 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: a quick break and get to our final segment on 734 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: the Talking Cowboys breaknext. Cowboys fans know that the second 735 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: best of anything simply won't cut it, and your skincare 736 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: should be no different. 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This is 772 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: the Talking Cowboys break streaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot 773 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,280 Speaker 1: com and the officials Dallas Cowboys app. It's about twenty 774 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: minutes left inside the SWBC Mortgage studio if you'd like 775 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: to join us. Eight eight eight eight five five two 776 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 1: two ninety seven is the number. David, the owner general manager, 777 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,720 Speaker 1: was on the fan today. He was did not speak 778 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 1: after the game, but spoke for a few minutes this 779 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: morning on radio. Nature of this beats so much fun. 780 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: You go to bed at four thirty in the morning, 781 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: you wake up at like ten fifteen and the owner 782 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 1: general manager has given an interview about roster cuts. It's great. 783 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 1: There is yeah nuggets. Well, one thing, you know, I 784 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: think people have a lot of interest in Rico gathers. 785 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: Here's I'm not going to read the whole thing. It's 786 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: like five hundred words long. But Jerry Jones basically said, 787 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: at this point today, tomorrow, this weekend, we've got to 788 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: put our finger on what he Rico can do for us. 789 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: Can he help us win? We make decisions. We do 790 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: make decisions on future potential, but we've got to specifically 791 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: identify how he helps us. Now, my inclination is that 792 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: we can do that. I think we can have a 793 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: player like Rico gathers and benefit and use him, which 794 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 1: he also all right, well I should give. He also said, 795 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: the real issue is what you're giving up in having 796 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: another roster spot and having another player. So basically, can 797 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: you use Rico well enough that it justifies cutting a 798 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: more well rounded player to have him on your team? 799 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: And that's nothing new. We've been saying that for two 800 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:29,879 Speaker 1: freaking years. So I reading the reader, trying my best 801 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 1: to read between the lines that's coming from the owner 802 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 1: and the general manager, the headshot caller. It sounds like 803 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: he's going to be on this team. That's my interpretation. 804 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: But I wonder how I'm telling Frederick in that situation 805 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 1: affects Rico, because Rico to me seems like a guy 806 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: that if you put him on the team, he's probably 807 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: going to be an active for a little bit, at 808 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: least for a while. That's obviously what Frederick would be 809 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: unless he goes to IR, how many of those guys 810 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: can you have? Well, is there a guy Nick? Maybe 811 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,359 Speaker 1: like a you know, they did this with Kellen Moore 812 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:07,879 Speaker 1: last year. Um to get Rico on the IR last year. 813 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: I believe right, they ll Kellen Moore vested veterans say hey, 814 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 1: stick around, we'll resign you. Is there you know they're 815 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: gonna have to do something like that wanted Blake Jarwin 816 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, don't know if they still do. But 817 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: is there somebody still? Is there a vested guy on 818 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 1: this roster that you say, okay, we could let you 819 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: go for a couple just a guy. Yeah? So because 820 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,399 Speaker 1: yeah Johnson, they say it does john Johnson fit that Bill. 821 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to make a cut. Cut maybe somebody 822 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 1: you like to keep Frederick on for a day if 823 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: you indeed are gonna put him on the IR. But 824 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: of course Stephen did say Monday, they may, you know, 825 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: make a decision, see how he feels over the weekend, 826 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,760 Speaker 1: and you could carry him, Yeah, that throughout his time 827 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: dealing with this illness. I lean toward thinking that Travis 828 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: Frederick is going to wind up on IR. But I know, 829 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: you know, there was a report last week that the 830 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: Cowboys are optimistic that it could just be weeks and 831 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: not months, And so I don't feel comfortable saying one 832 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 1: way or the other. But I wonder you guys know 833 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: the rules on this. When can he come back to 834 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: practice before the eight weeks? It's after six. If you're 835 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: on IR, you can practice after six weeks. I think 836 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: that's probably the way to go, I think, because even 837 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: I mean, if he's three three weeks, he's still going 838 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 1: to take him a couple of weeks to probably you know, 839 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: get him get him playing again. I like I said, 840 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: I leaned toward thinking that Travis is going to wind 841 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 1: up on IR by the time this is all done. 842 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: But we'll see one other item. Mick, You and Lindsay 843 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,720 Speaker 1: spoke to Jason Garrett on the pregame show about Randy 844 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: Gregory and his status was. He was in the news 845 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: yesterday pre game all day. What did coach have to 846 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 1: say about his defensive end? Well, as I remember, you know, 847 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: he was. He was very complimentary of everything that he's done. 848 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:57,919 Speaker 1: Um pointed out that he went to Chicago, not New York, 849 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:04,320 Speaker 1: and it just sounded like it was pre planned visit 850 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: to kind of do a check up on everything how 851 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:19,760 Speaker 1: he's doing. So I don't know if they were mad 852 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 1: at him because he kind of trashed the drug policy 853 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: and it sounded like Jerry said, you tell me. I 854 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: didn't hear it, but the guys on the fan were 855 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,839 Speaker 1: saying that Jerry said that there's owners that think that 856 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,879 Speaker 1: he shouldn't be readmitted to the program there. I mean, 857 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: it was very vague. Jerry said something along the lines of, like, 858 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,720 Speaker 1: you know, there's always lobbying in the NFL, like clubs 859 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: or clubs. You know, behind the scenes, they have thoughts 860 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,359 Speaker 1: and opinions that they probably wouldn't state publicly about things 861 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 1: like that. And again it was a very vague copy, 862 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: but you know, he made it sound like, yeah, there's 863 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: there's lobbying that goes on in these cases from around 864 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: the league, and maybe somebody's weighed in on it. I 865 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,879 Speaker 1: don't really know. But and Jerry also said, which this 866 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 1: has totally proven true over the last week, which is 867 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 1: you're under a ridiculous amount of scrutiny anyway as an 868 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 1: NFL player, multiple times over for being a member of 869 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, and it sucks for Randy. That's just 870 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: the way it is. It's not really fair. But something 871 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 1: that would be a very private issue for anybody else 872 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: in the world is not going to be that when 873 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: you're a good player for the Dallas Cowboy. We scheduled 874 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:34,760 Speaker 1: issue issue interview visit with the NFL office, which Jason 875 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 1: Garrett said on Your pregame, Mick that this may happen 876 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 1: periodically throughout the season with him on the roster, that 877 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: he may have to take a day and go handle 878 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 1: some business because he's part of that program, you know, 879 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,720 Speaker 1: due to multiple violations previously of the substance abuse policy. 880 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: And it's kind of weird because on one hand, you 881 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 1: can say, well, they why did you do it on 882 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: a game day? Well, what I mean, what other time 883 00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 1: would would be a better time for him when to play? Right, 884 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,800 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna play? And apparently miss that then then miss 885 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: a you know, practice day or something like that. They 886 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: were even trying to get him to Houston afterwards it 887 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,360 Speaker 1: didn't work out. And and and he I mean, today's 888 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,799 Speaker 1: an off day, so all he needs to do is 889 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 1: be back tomorrow for team meeting in a practice. So 890 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: it was perfect timing. Actually, he's right there, you know, 891 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 1: he's right there, getting close to playing his first game 892 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: and what two years he's like, he still has to 893 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 1: overcome these hurdles. Yeah, he's always going to but I 894 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 1: feel like that. I just feel like, if he plays 895 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: a full game, I just don't see him not getting 896 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,879 Speaker 1: a sack. I know he's done it. I know it's 897 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 1: that's not the way that the league works, but I 898 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 1: just think he's he's looks so good and what we've seen, 899 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,439 Speaker 1: or at least doing something to affect the game. Yeah, 900 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: you don't have to even get a sack. You just 901 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: just rush him, make him throw it, you know, and 902 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 1: maybe get a pick. Carolina doesn't have a healthy offense 903 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,800 Speaker 1: of lineman. It sounds like the word coming out of Charlotte, 904 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: so I am awfully intrigued by the possibility of him 905 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: getting a shot. Would be an interesting matchup for sure. 906 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 1: Let's go back to the phone lines. We do have 907 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 1: somebody on the line. Are you sure we'll find out 908 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 1: a second Chris in Pennsylvania? Are you there? Yes? I am. Hey, 909 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: what's up? Enjoying the show so far? Guys, Not like 910 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 1: there aren't plenty of question marks to evaluate and look over. 911 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: But I'm going to go in a little bit different direction. 912 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 1: Um starting quarterback. You guys have seen him all through 913 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,839 Speaker 1: the preseason. I mean we haven't. We haven't seen enough 914 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: of them in games and I know it's only his 915 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 1: third year, but where where are we at with Dak's development? 916 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:53,320 Speaker 1: I mean, do we what's your what's your opinion on 917 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 1: on where he's at and where he's headed? Um, And 918 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 1: I'll just hang up and see what you guys have 919 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,760 Speaker 1: to say. It's a good question, good global you question 920 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 1: of the most important guy on the team. Maybe where 921 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,840 Speaker 1: do I want to go with this? You want to 922 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 1: start us off? I think you know not to be 923 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 1: on the fence, but I mean I think this is 924 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 1: what you what you have in a third year player. 925 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 1: I think that, um, he's a he's a player that 926 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 1: could go. I don't think he'd go either way. I 927 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: think the arrow is pointing up for him. He played well, 928 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 1: uh at times last year. He was phenomenal his first 929 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 1: year when expectations were not We're not there now expectations 930 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,919 Speaker 1: are really high. There's a lot of scrutiny on him. 931 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,839 Speaker 1: I think when he's got his best friend back there 932 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 1: running the ball, I think that he's gonna be really good. 933 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:47,440 Speaker 1: He's he's not the quarterback that's gonna He's not Brady 934 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 1: Rogers that make the guys better. He needs great players 935 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 1: to make him better. That's the way it is. But 936 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 1: there's a lot of quarterbacks in the league like that. 937 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 1: There's not There's not a lot of Brady and Rogers types. 938 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,840 Speaker 1: There's a lot that need need good help. Ateman was 939 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 1: one of him, and he was on All of Famer. 940 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,879 Speaker 1: You need great players around you. Okay, first twenty four 941 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: games of his career, you know, one oh two quarterback rating. 942 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,240 Speaker 1: So what changed the last eight games of the season, 943 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 1: Please tell us. I mean, I know the answer, but 944 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:25,399 Speaker 1: no Zeke basically no tyring for too many games, right, 945 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:30,760 Speaker 1: and no credible backup for him, right. So Sean Lee 946 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 1: missing on defense didn't help the whole operation either way, 947 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 1: the way I look at it without Zeke and God 948 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 1: bless Alfred Morris, right, nice guy, but no one was 949 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 1: scared of him. No one was worried about him going 950 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 1: seventy yards for a touchdown. So defense has said, there's 951 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 1: only two guys that can beat me on this offense 952 00:48:55,239 --> 00:49:01,360 Speaker 1: right now, Dak and Dez. We're taking them out. They 953 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 1: are not going to beat me. And I think that's 954 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: what took place the last eight games of the season. 955 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 1: Teams took Cole Beasley out too well, because they didn't 956 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,240 Speaker 1: have to worry about the running back. The linebackers could 957 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:20,399 Speaker 1: kind of bracket him, and we'll accept whatever Alfred Morris does, 958 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 1: but we're not letting that guy. And that guy beat 959 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 1: me just at the Sorry McK no, I was just 960 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 1: gonna say, so, you know, the narrative was that he's 961 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 1: not the quarterback that he was. Well, he was pretty 962 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: darn good for twenty four games. And I completely agree 963 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 1: with everything y'all just said. I think Dax arrows pointing upward. 964 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,720 Speaker 1: I think when he's got a supporting cast around him, 965 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: he's a very good quarterback. And again to your pa, 966 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 1: he's that doesn't mean he's a bad player. Because he 967 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 1: needs good players around him, doesn't mean he's bad. There's 968 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,239 Speaker 1: only three or four, maybe five quarterbacks in the league 969 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 1: who can turn bad players into good players. Rogers got 970 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 1: paid what he got paid. Dak's not there yet, and 971 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 1: that's okay. I will say this though, kind of goes 972 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 1: back to my point about Cooper Rush. They've made their 973 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 1: bed at this point, like you know you're gonna trade 974 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,399 Speaker 1: for Teddy Bridgewater like as a preventative measure, so Dak 975 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 1: is worried about that, so you have something in case 976 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 1: things fall apart. No, like you've made your bed and 977 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 1: it's either gonna work or it's not. And if it 978 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,760 Speaker 1: doesn't work, then you burn this thing down and start again. 979 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,440 Speaker 1: And I'm sorry if you don't want to hear that, 980 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 1: but like, if Dak doesn't turn out to be the guy, 981 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 1: then you'll go draft another one when the time comes, 982 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 1: and you'll have a new head coach and a new 983 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 1: regime in here to move in that direction. But half 984 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 1: measures because you're afraid that Dak might not be the guy. 985 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 1: I don't buy it. Like, you've made your bed about 986 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 1: what you want to do, Now go do it, and 987 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna work. But if it doesn't, then 988 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 1: worry about that in another year. It's hard to judge 989 00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:01,400 Speaker 1: him in his preseason off maybe thirty snaps, right, thirty 990 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 1: something snaps? Maybe less than that a couple games, Um, 991 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 1: but I thought, you know, they did a nice job 992 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,280 Speaker 1: of moving the football as a first team offense without 993 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 1: his best friend. Yeah, and that that's that's encouraging. Rod 994 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 1: Smith ran the ball well, Um, Dak, We've talked about 995 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:18,839 Speaker 1: his deep ball. He hits the deep ball in the 996 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 1: opener the second game. He did a nice job of 997 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,760 Speaker 1: some intermediate stuff, buying time with his feet, being patient 998 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 1: and efficient in the pocket. I think in the two 999 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: games he's looked he's looked good. Yeah, every everything changes 1000 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 1: in the regular season. When you're just talking about a 1001 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,400 Speaker 1: zone read play for him, I mean the zone read 1002 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,880 Speaker 1: for Rod Smith sitting back there and Zeke is different 1003 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,720 Speaker 1: when you're a linebacker. It's also different when you don't 1004 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,239 Speaker 1: really expect Dak to run the ball in the preseason. 1005 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: That's not an element that that you're that you're thinking there, 1006 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,800 Speaker 1: so you know, when it's just a limited scripted type 1007 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,360 Speaker 1: of offense for the for them right now. Uh. And 1008 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,439 Speaker 1: with all that, he still did a nice job of 1009 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 1: of moving moving the ball around. So I think there's 1010 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 1: there's some reason to be optimistic there. Um, you know, 1011 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 1: let's see how he does with Looney, you know, let's 1012 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 1: see how the line does with with the calls, you know, 1013 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: line calls, who's who's taking over all of that. Um, 1014 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,840 Speaker 1: But I think I think Looney's a pro. I compared 1015 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 1: him on the show the other day. I don't think 1016 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,839 Speaker 1: either of y'all were on in this show, but um, 1017 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 1: with Nate and I said, you know, Looney's a lot 1018 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,279 Speaker 1: like you and I didn't cover him a lot. Mackey. 1019 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 1: You did a jolly you know, you know guy in 1020 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,839 Speaker 1: the locker room and likes the joke and make you know, 1021 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 1: but when he gets serious, it's time to get serious 1022 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,399 Speaker 1: and he and he knows, he knows how to handle 1023 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 1: his business. So I think Looney will be good in 1024 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,960 Speaker 1: that regard. You know what everybody forgets those first date 1025 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:48,399 Speaker 1: games of the year, Dak carried this team. He put 1026 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 1: him on his back. He was playing fantastic, right, That's 1027 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 1: what everybody kept saying. Boy, he just put him on 1028 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 1: his back. Right before Zeke got suspended, they beat Kansas City, 1029 00:52:58,520 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 1: and I thought that was the best win of the year. 1030 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 1: They were dominant offensively. I think they scored thirty year 1031 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 1: close to it, and it's like, well, they're back to 1032 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:09,120 Speaker 1: doing what they did in sixteen. And then you're right, Mick, 1033 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 1: everything did change. The question for me is still and 1034 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,879 Speaker 1: we just have to see it play out, like who's 1035 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 1: stepping up at wide receiver. And then they've got guys 1036 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,279 Speaker 1: with talent. Michael Gallup has a lot of talent. Alan 1037 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 1: Herns has proven he can play in this league. We 1038 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 1: know what Beasley can do. We can go down the list, 1039 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 1: But who's going to consistently challenge defenses and prevent them 1040 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 1: from loading up on Ezekiel Elliott can't wait? I can't. 1041 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,320 Speaker 1: I really can't remember a time to be so excited 1042 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,319 Speaker 1: about the preseason being over in the regular season just 1043 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,360 Speaker 1: because we really haven't seen anything yet. We haven't seen 1044 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 1: what these this offense can do. You're not ever going 1045 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 1: to see it, but it just seems like you're never 1046 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 1: really gonna see it in training camp and in the 1047 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 1: in the preseason. Yeah, but we saw even less of 1048 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 1: it than usual. Yeah, Beasley wasn't out there with the 1049 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 1: ones during the games. Tavon Austin was on the shelf 1050 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,839 Speaker 1: for the important part of the preseason, did not take 1051 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,439 Speaker 1: a carry, didn't play a snap. So it's just really 1052 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,759 Speaker 1: easy to look at this team and what you've seen 1053 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,839 Speaker 1: on TV, and I don't blame the fans. That's all 1054 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,759 Speaker 1: that that they're really getting and to be like this 1055 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,480 Speaker 1: is just awful and it has been. It has been 1056 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,279 Speaker 1: awful looking last couple of games. But it's just but 1057 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 1: it's it's supposed to be. It's supposed to kind of 1058 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,360 Speaker 1: look awful right now. That's what they don't care about 1059 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,800 Speaker 1: that they want to make sure the injuries are limited 1060 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,719 Speaker 1: and they have been. Yeah. Last time they didn't win 1061 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:34,879 Speaker 1: a preseason game was twenty fourteen. They went own four. Yeah, 1062 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: and what happened. Jerry Jones said it was going to 1063 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:41,279 Speaker 1: be an uphill battle, went twelve and four. Did he 1064 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:45,319 Speaker 1: really before that? I'll never forget that, Like, I mean, 1065 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,319 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones is mister optimism, and he was like, yeah, 1066 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 1: this might be kind of tough. And then they won 1067 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,719 Speaker 1: the division. So and that first hey oh and four 1068 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 1: And that first loss was the season with San Francisco. 1069 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:03,759 Speaker 1: The I'm like, this is going to be a bad year. 1070 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,919 Speaker 1: They got destroyed. I mean on the road at AT 1071 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 1: and T Stadium. It was. It was bad, bad, Yeah, 1072 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:17,319 Speaker 1: good times. The DeMarco Murray gets to five thousand yards 1073 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 1: and fine, though there it is. We would we hit 1074 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 1: on all the stuff we need to hit with, like 1075 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,320 Speaker 1: the roster, I mean anything, okay, roster cuts three pm, 1076 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,800 Speaker 1: buy three pm tomorrow before we get out of Cowboys. 1077 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,600 Speaker 1: Always freaking wait right up until the deadline, Like somebody's 1078 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,400 Speaker 1: going to announce their cuts today. Some team in the 1079 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 1: league is just gonna be like up here they are, Hey, 1080 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,720 Speaker 1: you know who announces the cuts is Twitter. Yep, they 1081 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 1: say they try to get a headstar. They tell the 1082 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 1: guys by see you later, and then they get on 1083 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 1: their phone and they say thank you, Buck Nation and 1084 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,160 Speaker 1: and Saint Nation and Cowboy Nation, thank you for everything 1085 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 1: for supporting me over the last three months. Yep. It's 1086 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,319 Speaker 1: just like when rookie free agents signed after the draft, right, 1087 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,600 Speaker 1: and then you just you gotta piece together that way. 1088 00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 1: I just prefer a list, be honest with you. Let's 1089 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:04,799 Speaker 1: get out of those one year. One year there was 1090 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 1: there was a guy walking in the hallway and he 1091 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 1: had like twenty two iPads. He's just walking on. This 1092 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 1: was back when it was like seventy five to fifty 1093 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,240 Speaker 1: three and he had twenty two iPads. He was walking 1094 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 1: with their name, you know, and we're just cut cut. Yeah. Yeah. 1095 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 1: So any final thoughts to Dave as you're predicting this 1096 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:32,040 Speaker 1: fifty three honestly surprises you. We could Sars Jackson. I 1097 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 1: I can't. It's it's him. I would take Darius to 1098 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,839 Speaker 1: be honest with you, but I bet it'll be Bo. 1099 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 1: You got to start last night. I bet it'll be Bo. Darius. 1100 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,359 Speaker 1: I hope you're right. Honestly, who's been better, hey, Terry 1101 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,879 Speaker 1: special teams tackles, Yeah, yeah, Darius has been better. Who's 1102 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 1: been more explosive and versatile? I'd say it looks like 1103 00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,800 Speaker 1: he could be a pro wrestler who just got drafted mhm, 1104 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 1: saying oh, well he got drafted three years ago. Well, 1105 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,440 Speaker 1: I think that matters. I do think it matters. But 1106 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,839 Speaker 1: I think when you get into sixth and seventh, you know, 1107 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,439 Speaker 1: I mean, do you think Covington's gonna have the edge 1108 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,080 Speaker 1: over Marshall Lillard just because he was drafted in the 1109 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 1: sixth round? You take the better player, the guy that 1110 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,799 Speaker 1: can help you week one? I really do. But what 1111 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 1: about your tight end fourth round pick, Dalton Chultz over Rico? 1112 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 1: That's another one you're keeping all four? If you're keeping Rico, 1113 00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,439 Speaker 1: I don't think you're cutting Dalton. I don't either either. 1114 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,360 Speaker 1: I think I'm not shameless plug. But if you go 1115 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 1: go get on the website the video we did earlier 1116 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 1: this week where we I mean, I don't think every 1117 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 1: name we put on there is gonna make it. I think, like, 1118 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,600 Speaker 1: I mean, no one that won't because Various Wards not 1119 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 1: a cowboy anymore. Yeah, But I think if you're just 1120 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 1: looking for a thought process on how it's going to 1121 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,600 Speaker 1: shape up. I think we did a pretty good job. 1122 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 1: Go check it out on Dallas Cowboys Mobile. Cut to 1123 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 1: fifty three, Cut to fifty three, mute them sure various 1124 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 1: ward part and and enjoy it. It's a good sixteen 1125 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 1: minutes or so of discussion. We appreciate you guys for 1126 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,280 Speaker 1: joining us. Stay tuned to the website and the app 1127 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 1: all week end for cuts on Saturday and he moves 1128 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,960 Speaker 1: they might make on Sunday and probably into next week 1129 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,600 Speaker 1: to nail down the fifty three for Carolina in week one. 1130 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 1: It's really football season now, it's really here. Yeah, we 1131 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 1: are turning the page. Thanks to you guys for joining us. Kent, 1132 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 1: thank you for producing, and we'll get this thing nailed 1133 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,880 Speaker 1: down over the next few days as we get down 1134 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,480 Speaker 1: at fifty three. Thanks guys. This has been a production 1135 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.