WEBVTT - The Spirited Actor - Jeni Fujita 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.280 Hello, and welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.440 Tracy Moore. I was a casting director for film and 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:10.600 TV and commercials for over thirty years. I transitioned to 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:14.200 a celebrity acting coach after I cast a film New 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:19.400 Jersey Drive with executive producers Spike Lee and director Nick Domez. 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:24.439 I auditioned every rapper from biggiees Balls to Tupac, and 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:28.200 I realized that rappers and musical artists they needed help 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:32.600 transitioning to acting. My clients consist of musical artists from 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:37.400 Buster Rhymes to Eve, Missy Elliott, Angela Yee from The 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:41.120 Breakfast Club, and Vanessa Simmons, to name a few. I 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:45.080 also coach sports stars and host as well. I feel 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:48.720 I have the best of both worlds. As a casting director, 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:51.320 I know exactly what they're looking for, and as an 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:53.800 acting coach, I can coach you to be remembered in 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:57.080 that room. Now I know, I know actors want to 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:00.200 get the job. I get that, but being remembered by 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:04.560 casting director that is powerful. 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:08.560 And now it's time for meditation of the day. You're 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:13.240 a dragon and all of the signs only a dragon contain. 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:19.600 The faiths only a dragon can wear the horns of destiny, duty, 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:27.920 and power. Lisa c be who you are, Be who 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:33.240 you're supposed to be. Stop being concerned about what other 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:35.440 people think of you or what other people are saying 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:39.080 of you. Who cares? Most of these people you don't 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:43.399 even know. I'm constantly telling some of my clients stop 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:47.520 reading the comments in the IG. You don't know these people. 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:52.040 You're taking precious energy that you have and time that 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:56.760 you will never get back to waste and comment or debate. 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:02.120 You know who you are. You know the core of 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:06.760 who you are. You are powerful, you are mighty, you 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:13.040 are enough. Today I will stand in the truth of 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:17.799 who I really am. Before we get started, I like 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:21.000 to remind everyone to go to Krackical Network to view 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:25.160 seasons one and two of my show Inside the Black 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:28.800 Box that I co host with the great Emmy Award 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:35.280 winning Joe Morton. Look out for news on season three soon. 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:39.760 Welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore. 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:44.520 I am very excited to introduce our guests to you 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:52.320 today because our lovely, fabulous Spruce Henry, our producer, has 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:57.720 introduced me to yet again another beautiful, beautiful spirit. She 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.960 is multi hyphen I want to start off first with 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:06.640 Grammy nominated. That's what I want to start off with first, 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:14.280 so you know the direction of going songwriter, singer, voiceover owner. 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:17.919 She is also an entrepreneur, so we're going to dive 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:20.880 into that as well, because I'm so interested in her 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:24.680 transition in that aspect. Ladies and gentlemen, please put your 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.240 hands together for Jenny Bujita. 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:30.880 Thank you so much for having me. 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:37.360 Thank you for me here. So Jenny, first of all, 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:43.960 just you have a plethora of work, but your face doesn't. 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:48.400 The math is not mathing for me. Do you look 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:51.560 like I'm a Cathtin director? So your reigned would be 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:55.520 like maybe twenty nine to like thirty three, thirty five. 0:03:56.200 --> 0:04:02.839 But I love you and back at you. I want 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:05.120 to know where it all started with you, because I 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:06.960 feel I mean, I don't even know you, but I 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:12.080 feel this very strong spiritual energy and there's just a 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:14.240 like the first thing I thought of when I saw 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.440 your face, I was like, we're going to groove today. 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:18.480 This is what we're gonna go. Yeah, We're a groove. 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:22.720 Yeah okay, and I'm going to groove with you. Oh yeah, 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:27.120 where did this start for you? My grandparents were on Broadway. 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:29.479 My mom was a performer who tried to make it 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.120 in New York, got scared, went home, started a family, 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:33.880 and had kids, and I came out like. 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:37.240 Ready, it was just in me. 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:39.599 So by five I was wanting to perform. 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:43.719 By eight, I was in musical theater. I think by 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:46.760 e okay. So then you know, my dad got sick 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:50.080 with cancer. So from seven to eight I watched him 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:52.120 deteriorate in the home because he wanted to stay home 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:55.720 and be with his family. Turns out he was exposed 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.000 to radiation when he was in the nave feet. 0:04:59.240 --> 0:04:59.920 Oh my god. 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:03.440 So it wasn't even a genetic like he would not 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:06.520 have died at forty two. So I watched my mom 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:08.400 kind of trying to figure out what she was going 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:10.960 to do because he was the provider at that time. 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:13.880 And so she became like an entrepreneur. 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:17.560 She started teaching voice lessons, She started bringing us to auditions, 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.520 We started doing musical theaters. She started directing musical theater. 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.800 Then other neighbors wanted her to bring their kids to auditions. 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:26.240 That she became a manager, and she started a business 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:29.360 called Real Kid, And so she was driving us up 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:33.400 to San Francisco. I became stag after at twelve doing 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:36.960 voiceovers in San Francisco. So by eleven, I said to 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:39.839 my mom, well, I'm gonna save you a lot of 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:41.120 money because I don't think I need to. 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:43.160 Go to college because I have a voice and I'm 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:47.159 gonna use it, and I'm gonna do this, whether I'm talking, 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:52.080 singing on stage, public speaking, inspiring people, whatever it is. 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:54.040 I knew that I was going to use my voice 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:57.400 to do it, and I booked my first national twelve 0:05:57.960 --> 0:05:58.479 a voiceover. 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:03.400 Okay, so can I just say this common Denominator born 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:08.200 and raised in San Francisco. Oh oh, left forty years 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:09.119 ago and moved here. 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:13.159 Okay, so we're Bay Area's sisters. 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.400 Yes, that's what it is. So many, so many, Here's 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:18.160 so many, who's so many? So many? 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:24.000 Yeah yeah yeah, tim Bisa, Timbisasa, Yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah, 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:27.440 so Timbisa. That's another one like Tim So Tim Visa 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.360 introduced me to my voiceover agent here, who I am 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:35.159 still with. She was like, I'm gonna refer you to 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:38.039 my agent, which never happens. I did not ask, you 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:40.000 know what I mean? She was like when I went 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:40.680 to meet. 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:43.360 With Joe at Paradigm, he said. 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:46.400 Tim Visa said, I can take her out to lunch 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.640 for introducing us. 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:51.279 So that's how I was kind of like. 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:53.720 And what I had at that time was a body 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:57.760 of work from Scrus, who I met in nineteen ninety 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.400 six when I moved to New York at twenty three 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:01.640 years old. 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:04.640 And so so you from New York from San Francisco 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:08.599 had twenty three yep in nineteen ninety six. I moved 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:12.800 at to New York at twenty one. Yeah, this is 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:16.000 freaking me out. And Tim Visa. I worked with Tim 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:20.400 Visa at BET before well, she was doing voiceovers. 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:24.120 Tim Visa, I was the voice of BET for like 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:26.440 seven years, eight years. 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:29.920 Timbisa is the reason. Tim Visa is the reason. She 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:31.880 was like, no, no, no, Jenny is hip hit. Jenny 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.960 is hip hop. Yeah, you know, Jenny's hip Like I 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.920 we came. We grew up together in it with you know, 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:42.800 all the Bay Area souls of Mischief and them. 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:44.000 So yeah, you know. 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.800 So Timbisa brought me into the Voice of the World 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:48.480 in New York. 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:49.680 Mmm. 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:53.880 And I didn't book I didn't and I didn't book 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:54.400 a job for. 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:58.320 Thirteen months, and I was so discouraged, but thankfully for 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:01.640 Spruce who he's kept me employe since nineteen ninety six. 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:04.240 Well, I was able to eat and survive. 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.760 But then you know, thirteen months later I booked the 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.160 voice of Tide and I became the voice of Tide 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:13.720 Laundry Detergent for three years through SACI and Sacchi, and 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:15.880 then they also hired me to be the voice of 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:18.360 Oil of Ola for another three years. They were like, oh, 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:22.600 get the Tide girl. No audition, okay, so a lot 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:24.280 of like weird, Yeah. 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:28.840 No, it's I have to let the audience know because 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:33.680 we have actors and voiceover for all types of creative energy. 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.600 When you book what is called Jenny is talking to 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.880 you guys about a campaign. When you tell you that 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:44.440 she got booked for Tide for three years in Oil 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:51.240 of Away, she was like the progressive woman. The product decides, 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:54.920 you know. In the in the commercial world, I cast 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:58.720 commercials and voiceovers so you have the product right tied 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:03.360 and then TIEDE go to an advertising agency, Sachi and Sachi, 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:07.079 and then Sachi and Sachi has a bunch of production companies. 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:11.480 I cast like Lee's commercials for seven years. So I 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:15.720 work for Sachi and Sachi Nike like different brands. So 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:19.080 what she is saying to you guys is that they 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:26.760 loved her. They loved her so much. She is the face, uh, 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:30.920 and she is the voice of that product every commercial. 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:34.120 It's like Alicia Keys right now with Allstate. You hear 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:38.200 Alicia Keys with All State? Yes, yeah, Alicia Keys is 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.520 the voice of that of that campaign now for for 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:41.360 a couple of years. 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:41.600 Now. 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.320 I want to say, and you recognize it's Alicia when 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:44.679 you hear it. 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:50.360 Yeah, absolutely, Well, I want to I want to say 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.160 this too. I got so much to talk to you about, 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:53.840 but I want to say this too, just in terms 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.800 of your voiceover career. And I know Spruce knows this. 0:09:56.920 --> 0:10:02.760 He is a blessing that people of color don't venture 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:08.880 as much as the white actors to Europe, Japan, outside 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:14.199 of the US, there's the whole world of voiceover that exists. 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:17.520 I have a friend who is one of the biggest 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:26.080 voiceover in the industry, Rod Houston or you know friends. Yeah, okay, 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:26.960 so I knew Ron. 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:30.719 Wasn't he the voice of the male voice of the 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:33.520 E T Y C E T. We were at the 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:34.080 same time. 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:35.760 I was the female voice and he was the male 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:37.880 that we would we would, we would be we were. 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:41.400 We were called in on Wednesdays. Wow, that's my boy, 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:41.959 and we were. 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:43.800 We were with the Team agency, so we were all 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:47.280 at the same parties in our agency party, right, and 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:47.960 he was. 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:50.599 ESPN too and. 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:53.000 N B n B A. 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:59.160 He would he would n B A NFL like he 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:02.280 has crazy when he started to get into any had 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:11.880 crazy campaigns. But when I was doing commercials, MG is it, 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:16.280 Oh my god, one of the big modeling agencies. They 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:20.400 were trying to start a department to diversify the voiceover 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:24.480 in Asia and in Europe because there's no market that 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.400 people don't talk and tap into. And Rod does stuff 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:31.559 in the UK, so you know what I mean. So 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:35.400 it's like, you know, with voiceover, it's not a headshot, 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:39.280 ladies and gentlemen, it's your voice, the quality and also stamina. 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:42.280 So I want to talk about that to you because 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:47.800 and then we're going to talk about her amazing music career. 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:53.160 You guys, she's a You're phenomenal in voiceover, right, because 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.160 Bruce love them to death. S. Bruce was pulling me 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:59.120 into the voiceovers here on the show, and I was 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:06.400 in my closet recording for him working diligently my challenge. 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:10.680 I'm not an actor, I'm not a voice over expert. 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:17.079 But when you go from the copy you get ninety seconds, 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:25.560 sixty seconds, thirty seconds. That's what turn my world upside 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:30.439 down because having to be in time, having to cut 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.520 you start, you know, having to be in that time 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:37.240 and stay within the ninety second, sixty seconds, thirty seconds. 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:41.000 How do you do that? How do you because it's 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.679 also annunciation, you know what I mean, because the speed 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.800 can't play into it. I remember one time Screw said 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:51.280 to me, like, you know, don't don't try to go 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:53.959 with the time. Just do it, you know, do it. 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:55.240 That's what I was going to say. I don't think 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:59.640 I've ever thought about the time when I'm reading. Oh 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:00.960 read it like I. 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.400 Think I'm thinking about it, But I'm not thinking about 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:04.439 it like I think. 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:07.160 I know, I have like from here to here to 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:07.760 get it done. 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.559 So I'm just kind of passing myself until I know 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:12.640 that the time is up, and try to make it 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:14.600 sound as natural as possible while you're doing it. 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:18.439 But there, you know I mean, And you can listen 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:18.920 to people. 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.320 I often listen to people as character studies just regular 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:23.920 people talking in real life, you know, because like I 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:25.160 just set up a little bit so that I could 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:28.160 say that point. But then I can also not make 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:30.400 it feel rush, like I can play around with the 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:33.800 timing too, you know, because you don't have to do 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:38.120 it like you know, like just how we talk in 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:43.319 real life and trying to make it really interpret it 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.400 as real as possible, right, And then I look at 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.160 my timing and if I'm like a little long, then 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:49.720 I know I need to like speed it up a 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:51.920 little bit, or find the places where I can speed 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:52.360 it up a. 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:55.319 Little bit if I'm a little over, But. 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.760 Try to just see where it is naturally first, you know, 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:00.320 and then be like, all right, actually actually have a 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:03.560 little bit more time, or oh I need I need 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.520 to skip to my lou a little bit more, you know. 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:09.400 So what are some of the preparations that you have 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.760 Because you just said, which I thought was really great, 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:15.480 listening like almost eavesdropping on conversation to hear the different 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:16.080 textures of. 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:20.840 Voice all the time, all Journey and I ever did 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.400 when he was a kid too, And then just try 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.000 to imitate people and just sort of start having a 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:29.840 conversation in their voices. Or I don't know, just I 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:32.680 think it's something that was in his is. I know 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:34.680 it's something that's in his blood. Obviously he was reading 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:36.800 for spruce when he was like four or five years old, 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:40.880 doing little kids for spruce, or just repeating back or whatever. 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.440 So I do think part of it is ear But 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:46.720 I forgot what were what the question was? 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:46.960 Now? 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.920 Oh no, I was just saying because no, in terms 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:53.160 of like your preparation, because I think that's tell actors 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:57.000 all the time to observe behavior and eavesdrop on conversation. 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.000 See, it's kind of like how you want to prepare 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.480 yourself to walk out the door in the morning. You 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:04.240 need to do it before you walk out the door. 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:07.160 So your prep should be all the time, you know 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.080 what I mean, so that when you're when you're out 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:12.200 the door, you're already ready to face the world. So 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.360 it's like your prep is all the time. So when 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:16.600 it's time to read the script, you're you're just you 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:19.920 just know, you just it's not like I don't I 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:23.640 often don't get scripts until the last minute. Wow, Just 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:26.440 like auditions, right, so you'll just go in and you 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:27.760 just have to interpret it. 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:30.840 And as a casting director, I can tell you this 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:35.760 that we can't release anything until the director or the producer. 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.920 So it always looks like from a cast for casting 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:39.560 directors that. 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:43.120 We just you know, I'm pretty sure we know that. 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:45.280 I'm pretty sure we all know that. We all know, 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.440 we all know. I mean, well, at least I just 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.640 I just have always assumed that. And I don't get 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.200 too much into the business of other people's jobs, so 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:53.680 I'm just like, hey, I get the thing. 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.320 This is when I get it. Do the audition, you know, 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:58.560 stay out of the business. That was a big. 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:01.840 One for me, was to learn how to just be 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:04.800 in my own business and just do my job. Don't 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:07.600 try to fix the script. Don't that's not your job. 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:09.800 You're not the writer, you're not the producer. You just read, 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:14.280 just just interpret, like, be the solution to the problem. 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.480 Yeah, you know, and it was. 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:19.960 I wonder Phil was your guy at that show who 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:24.200 said that, But it was one of these very wise actors. 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:27.440 No, it was No, it wasn't him. I'm sorry. 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:29.120 But anyways, be the solution to the problem at the 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:30.440 audition or at the job. 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.800 Just be the solution. Don't don't don't add more like, 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:34.560 it's not your bit. 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.560 Just just so I get the script, I get the direction, 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:39.720 and I just try to interpret it. 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:40.560 That's right. 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.640 I don't worry about, oh why am I getting it 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:46.800 right now? They want it right now. It's like, yeah, 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:50.640 we want auditions. When you get them, be present and 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.200 do your best, and just I just try to interpret 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.200 it and not be in anybody else's job. 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:58.480 And then the other thing is is that you know, 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:03.480 well when when the happen, I had an opportunity to 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:07.160 talk to a lot of actors. But when COVID happened 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:12.480 and we went to Zoom, actors complain about the Zoom 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:19.040 process right. And I've always as a casting director felt 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:25.240 because of actors that you know, we're putting you guys 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:28.800 in difficult positions and not giving you the opportunity to succeed. 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:32.840 But this is where I say training comes in because 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:38.800 there's two things that you do that I stress to actors. One, 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.919 you have to read every day aloud. That's what I 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.479 tell actors. You know, I mean your job ninety nine 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.439 point nine reading, that's what your job is. So if 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:50.800 you're not a great reader, if you don't practice reading, 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:55.840 or just grabbing different things, because truebody writes how you 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:59.760 speak and you. And then the other thing I wanted 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:03.280 to say is that you have a really trusting vibe 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:09.240 because for whether a model is on a billboard or 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:15.000 you're on serious doing a tie commercial, we trust you 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:18.000 enough to say I'm gonna go out there and get 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:20.160 some time. I'm gonna go to the grocery stores today 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:21.840 and get some time. I'm gonna try you know what 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:23.880 I mean, Like you sell us? 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:29.080 Yeah, do you think one hundred percent? 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:29.280 Do? 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:31.160 And I think I have a little bit of resistance 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:35.000 around certain auditions that come in for products or companies 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:36.120 that I don't. 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:38.560 Really stand behind. 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:39.760 I have a little resistance. 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:41.959 And I so when I booked Tied, it was this 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:46.560 whole diversity campaign oh wow uh, And. 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:49.439 So I was so into it, you know. 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:53.240 And the Oil of Ola campaign was be your best 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:57.520 beautiful and that it's about impressing. 0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:58.639 The woman in the mirror. 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.320 So I was able to really believe in both of 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:07.440 those campaigns so much and feel so good every time 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:09.239 I did a spot for them. So I think that 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:12.159 has helped, and that is not always the case. And 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:14.800 I'm like, Clarrent, fine, I mean, someone's got to make 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:21.879 the Walmart money. Someone's making it. You know, yeah, the pharmaceuticals. 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:23.840 You know, I'm not like a big believer. 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:26.720 But like someone's making that pharm of money, honey, and 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:28.680 why should it could just be me? 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:31.680 And then I can just rescue more dogs. 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:35.720 Yeah, you know, okay and have your rescue. 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:39.480 Said yeah, and and and you know, and and I 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:41.879 can make pharm of money and then I can you know, 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:44.640 increase my health and wellness business for humans too? 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:46.760 Why not? You know? 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:49.080 So that's like a Sometimes we have these mental blocks, 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:50.800 and I know that that's one of mine. I'm like 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:52.879 trying to convince myself right now out loud and like 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:56.240 almost by saying it to you, holding myself accountable, accountable 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:59.200 for like, it's okay for me to make pharma money. 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:00.600 Isn't that deep. 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:05.760 Right that we can like block our own abundance and progress? 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:06.920 Right? 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:10.639 Because I bet you whoever whatever you know person is 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:13.400 reading those those ads now, they. 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:17.600 Didn't have any resistance about making that money, right. Well, 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:22.960 I mean there's there is a spiritual consciousness that definitely 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:26.399 is the through line that you send in your work, 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:31.360 and that's important. You know, we have some integrity and standards. 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:33.880 What I always fall back too, and I don't think 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:35.640 I can get away from is that, Like, I. 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:38.159 Really would rather be behind a campaign that I believe in. 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:42.560 So let's find a drug that actually helps people or 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:45.800 something that actually, you know, really does help dogs or people, 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:50.960 or something that I can be behind or even you know, I. 0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:55.879 Want to believe that the medical world is shifting, but 0:20:56.080 --> 0:21:00.080 I think we incorporate more wellness in commercials, do you 0:20:59.880 --> 0:21:03.680 know herbs? But you know, I don't know if that's 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:06.159 gonna happen, because then you'll start healing people naturally. And 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:07.399 that's a whole other conversation. 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:11.040 It's the same conversation. It's the reason I have resist 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:14.159 since around pharma. It's not like, can I do a 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:18.040 commercial for turmeric for inflammation, you know. 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:22.040 Which saved my life? There? 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:25.720 You see, Yeah, that this this is who I am 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:29.639 in my in my in my fitness business. That is, 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:32.879 I'm the person that that's you know, suggesting turmeric and 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:35.959 fear leina and chlorrella and like alkaline your system. And 0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:39.480 you know, yes, so I get that part of my career. 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:41.400 Also get to flex that muscle too. 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:45.880 So we're gonna go into another part of Jenny's hyphenated life. 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:51.159 We're gonna transition into Jenny owns the Jim. What was 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:55.960 tell us about? I mean, I think that's amazing and 0:21:56.200 --> 0:22:00.800 the wellness amazing because I think I feel like actors 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:04.920 are going to start having more stress and anxiety because 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:08.080 studios have figured out you can shoot films in fifteen, 0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:11.119 seventeen twenty one days and I just came off with 0:22:11.240 --> 0:22:16.639 fifteen day shoot in Atlanta, and it's a lot of 0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:20.600