Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me
Speaker 1: Tracy Moore. I was a casting director for film and
Speaker 1: TV and commercials for over thirty years. I transitioned to
Speaker 1: a celebrity acting coach after I cast a film New
Speaker 1: Jersey Drive with executive producers Spike Lee and director Nick Domez.
Speaker 1: I auditioned every rapper from biggiees Balls to Tupac, and
Speaker 1: I realized that rappers and musical artists they needed help
Speaker 1: transitioning to acting. My clients consist of musical artists from
Speaker 1: Buster Rhymes to Eve, Missy Elliott, Angela Yee from The
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club, and Vanessa Simmons, to name a few. I
Speaker 1: also coach sports stars and host as well. I feel
Speaker 1: I have the best of both worlds. As a casting director,
Speaker 1: I know exactly what they're looking for, and as an
Speaker 1: acting coach, I can coach you to be remembered in
Speaker 1: that room. Now I know, I know actors want to
Speaker 1: get the job. I get that, but being remembered by
Speaker 1: casting director that is powerful.
Speaker 2: And now it's time for meditation of the day. You're
Speaker 2: a dragon and all of the signs only a dragon contain.
Speaker 2: The faiths only a dragon can wear the horns of destiny, duty,
Speaker 2: and power. Lisa c be who you are, Be who
Speaker 2: you're supposed to be. Stop being concerned about what other
Speaker 2: people think of you or what other people are saying
Speaker 2: of you. Who cares? Most of these people you don't
Speaker 2: even know. I'm constantly telling some of my clients stop
Speaker 2: reading the comments in the IG. You don't know these people.
Speaker 2: You're taking precious energy that you have and time that
Speaker 2: you will never get back to waste and comment or debate.
Speaker 2: You know who you are. You know the core of
Speaker 2: who you are. You are powerful, you are mighty, you
Speaker 2: are enough. Today I will stand in the truth of
Speaker 2: who I really am. Before we get started, I like
Speaker 2: to remind everyone to go to Krackical Network to view
Speaker 2: seasons one and two of my show Inside the Black
Speaker 2: Box that I co host with the great Emmy Award
Speaker 2: winning Joe Morton. Look out for news on season three soon.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore.
Speaker 2: I am very excited to introduce our guests to you
Speaker 2: today because our lovely, fabulous Spruce Henry, our producer, has
Speaker 2: introduced me to yet again another beautiful, beautiful spirit. She
Speaker 2: is multi hyphen I want to start off first with
Speaker 2: Grammy nominated. That's what I want to start off with first,
Speaker 2: so you know the direction of going songwriter, singer, voiceover owner.
Speaker 2: She is also an entrepreneur, so we're going to dive
Speaker 2: into that as well, because I'm so interested in her
Speaker 2: transition in that aspect. Ladies and gentlemen, please put your
Speaker 2: hands together for Jenny Bujita.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2: Thank you for me here. So Jenny, first of all,
Speaker 2: just you have a plethora of work, but your face doesn't.
Speaker 2: The math is not mathing for me. Do you look
Speaker 2: like I'm a Cathtin director? So your reigned would be
Speaker 2: like maybe twenty nine to like thirty three, thirty five.
Speaker 2: But I love you and back at you. I want
Speaker 2: to know where it all started with you, because I
Speaker 2: feel I mean, I don't even know you, but I
Speaker 2: feel this very strong spiritual energy and there's just a
Speaker 2: like the first thing I thought of when I saw
Speaker 2: your face, I was like, we're going to groove today.
Speaker 2: This is what we're gonna go. Yeah, We're a groove.
Speaker 2: Yeah okay, and I'm going to groove with you. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: where did this start for you? My grandparents were on Broadway.
Speaker 4: My mom was a performer who tried to make it
Speaker 4: in New York, got scared, went home, started a family,
Speaker 4: and had kids, and I came out like.
Speaker 2: Ready, it was just in me.
Speaker 3: So by five I was wanting to perform.
Speaker 4: By eight, I was in musical theater. I think by
Speaker 4: e okay. So then you know, my dad got sick
Speaker 4: with cancer. So from seven to eight I watched him
Speaker 4: deteriorate in the home because he wanted to stay home
Speaker 4: and be with his family. Turns out he was exposed
Speaker 4: to radiation when he was in the nave feet.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: So it wasn't even a genetic like he would not
Speaker 4: have died at forty two. So I watched my mom
Speaker 4: kind of trying to figure out what she was going
Speaker 4: to do because he was the provider at that time.
Speaker 3: And so she became like an entrepreneur.
Speaker 4: She started teaching voice lessons, She started bringing us to auditions,
Speaker 4: We started doing musical theaters. She started directing musical theater.
Speaker 4: Then other neighbors wanted her to bring their kids to auditions.
Speaker 4: That she became a manager, and she started a business
Speaker 4: called Real Kid, And so she was driving us up
Speaker 4: to San Francisco. I became stag after at twelve doing
Speaker 4: voiceovers in San Francisco. So by eleven, I said to
Speaker 4: my mom, well, I'm gonna save you a lot of
Speaker 4: money because I don't think I need to.
Speaker 5: Go to college because I have a voice and I'm
Speaker 5: gonna use it, and I'm gonna do this, whether I'm talking,
Speaker 5: singing on stage, public speaking, inspiring people, whatever it is.
Speaker 4: I knew that I was going to use my voice
Speaker 4: to do it, and I booked my first national twelve
Speaker 4: a voiceover.
Speaker 2: Okay, so can I just say this common Denominator born
Speaker 2: and raised in San Francisco. Oh oh, left forty years
Speaker 2: ago and moved here.
Speaker 3: Okay, so we're Bay Area's sisters.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what it is. So many, so many, Here's
Speaker 2: so many, who's so many? So many?
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah, tim Bisa, Timbisasa, Yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah,
Speaker 4: so Timbisa. That's another one like Tim So Tim Visa
Speaker 4: introduced me to my voiceover agent here, who I am
Speaker 4: still with. She was like, I'm gonna refer you to
Speaker 4: my agent, which never happens. I did not ask, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean? She was like when I went
Speaker 4: to meet.
Speaker 3: With Joe at Paradigm, he said.
Speaker 4: Tim Visa said, I can take her out to lunch
Speaker 4: for introducing us.
Speaker 2: So that's how I was kind of like.
Speaker 4: And what I had at that time was a body
Speaker 4: of work from Scrus, who I met in nineteen ninety
Speaker 4: six when I moved to New York at twenty three
Speaker 4: years old.
Speaker 2: And so so you from New York from San Francisco
Speaker 2: had twenty three yep in nineteen ninety six. I moved
Speaker 2: at to New York at twenty one. Yeah, this is
Speaker 2: freaking me out. And Tim Visa. I worked with Tim
Speaker 2: Visa at BET before well, she was doing voiceovers.
Speaker 3: Tim Visa, I was the voice of BET for like
Speaker 3: seven years, eight years.
Speaker 4: Timbisa is the reason. Tim Visa is the reason. She
Speaker 4: was like, no, no, no, Jenny is hip hit. Jenny
Speaker 4: is hip hop. Yeah, you know, Jenny's hip Like I
Speaker 4: we came. We grew up together in it with you know,
Speaker 4: all the Bay Area souls of Mischief and them.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: So Timbisa brought me into the Voice of the World
Speaker 4: in New York.
Speaker 2: Mmm.
Speaker 3: And I didn't book I didn't and I didn't book
Speaker 3: a job for.
Speaker 4: Thirteen months, and I was so discouraged, but thankfully for
Speaker 4: Spruce who he's kept me employe since nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 2: Well, I was able to eat and survive.
Speaker 4: But then you know, thirteen months later I booked the
Speaker 4: voice of Tide and I became the voice of Tide
Speaker 4: Laundry Detergent for three years through SACI and Sacchi, and
Speaker 4: then they also hired me to be the voice of
Speaker 4: Oil of Ola for another three years. They were like, oh,
Speaker 4: get the Tide girl. No audition, okay, so a lot
Speaker 4: of like weird, Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, it's I have to let the audience know because
Speaker 2: we have actors and voiceover for all types of creative energy.
Speaker 2: When you book what is called Jenny is talking to
Speaker 2: you guys about a campaign. When you tell you that
Speaker 2: she got booked for Tide for three years in Oil
Speaker 2: of Away, she was like the progressive woman. The product decides,
Speaker 2: you know. In the in the commercial world, I cast
Speaker 2: commercials and voiceovers so you have the product right tied
Speaker 2: and then TIEDE go to an advertising agency, Sachi and Sachi,
Speaker 2: and then Sachi and Sachi has a bunch of production companies.
Speaker 2: I cast like Lee's commercials for seven years. So I
Speaker 2: work for Sachi and Sachi Nike like different brands. So
Speaker 2: what she is saying to you guys is that they
Speaker 2: loved her. They loved her so much. She is the face, uh,
Speaker 2: and she is the voice of that product every commercial.
Speaker 4: It's like Alicia Keys right now with Allstate. You hear
Speaker 4: Alicia Keys with All State? Yes, yeah, Alicia Keys is
Speaker 4: the voice of that of that campaign now for for
Speaker 4: a couple of years.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I want to say, and you recognize it's Alicia when
Speaker 3: you hear it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Well, I want to I want to say
Speaker 2: this too. I got so much to talk to you about,
Speaker 2: but I want to say this too, just in terms
Speaker 2: of your voiceover career. And I know Spruce knows this.
Speaker 2: He is a blessing that people of color don't venture
Speaker 2: as much as the white actors to Europe, Japan, outside
Speaker 2: of the US, there's the whole world of voiceover that exists.
Speaker 2: I have a friend who is one of the biggest
Speaker 2: voiceover in the industry, Rod Houston or you know friends. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: so I knew Ron.
Speaker 3: Wasn't he the voice of the male voice of the
Speaker 3: E T Y C E T. We were at the
Speaker 3: same time.
Speaker 4: I was the female voice and he was the male
Speaker 4: that we would we would, we would be we were.
Speaker 3: We were called in on Wednesdays. Wow, that's my boy,
Speaker 3: and we were.
Speaker 4: We were with the Team agency, so we were all
Speaker 4: at the same parties in our agency party, right, and
Speaker 4: he was.
Speaker 2: ESPN too and.
Speaker 3: N B n B A.
Speaker 2: He would he would n B A NFL like he
Speaker 2: has crazy when he started to get into any had
Speaker 2: crazy campaigns. But when I was doing commercials, MG is it,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, one of the big modeling agencies. They
Speaker 2: were trying to start a department to diversify the voiceover
Speaker 2: in Asia and in Europe because there's no market that
Speaker 2: people don't talk and tap into. And Rod does stuff
Speaker 2: in the UK, so you know what I mean. So
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, with voiceover, it's not a headshot,
Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, it's your voice, the quality and also stamina.
Speaker 2: So I want to talk about that to you because
Speaker 2: and then we're going to talk about her amazing music career.
Speaker 2: You guys, she's a You're phenomenal in voiceover, right, because
Speaker 2: Bruce love them to death. S. Bruce was pulling me
Speaker 2: into the voiceovers here on the show, and I was
Speaker 2: in my closet recording for him working diligently my challenge.
Speaker 2: I'm not an actor, I'm not a voice over expert.
Speaker 2: But when you go from the copy you get ninety seconds,
Speaker 2: sixty seconds, thirty seconds. That's what turn my world upside
Speaker 2: down because having to be in time, having to cut
Speaker 2: you start, you know, having to be in that time
Speaker 2: and stay within the ninety second, sixty seconds, thirty seconds.
Speaker 2: How do you do that? How do you because it's
Speaker 2: also annunciation, you know what I mean, because the speed
Speaker 2: can't play into it. I remember one time Screw said
Speaker 2: to me, like, you know, don't don't try to go
Speaker 2: with the time. Just do it, you know, do it.
Speaker 3: That's what I was going to say. I don't think
Speaker 3: I've ever thought about the time when I'm reading. Oh
Speaker 3: read it like I.
Speaker 4: Think I'm thinking about it, But I'm not thinking about
Speaker 4: it like I think.
Speaker 3: I know, I have like from here to here to
Speaker 3: get it done.
Speaker 4: So I'm just kind of passing myself until I know
Speaker 4: that the time is up, and try to make it
Speaker 4: sound as natural as possible while you're doing it.
Speaker 3: But there, you know I mean, And you can listen
Speaker 3: to people.
Speaker 4: I often listen to people as character studies just regular
Speaker 4: people talking in real life, you know, because like I
Speaker 4: just set up a little bit so that I could
Speaker 4: say that point. But then I can also not make
Speaker 4: it feel rush, like I can play around with the
Speaker 4: timing too, you know, because you don't have to do
Speaker 4: it like you know, like just how we talk in
Speaker 4: real life and trying to make it really interpret it
Speaker 4: as real as possible, right, And then I look at
Speaker 4: my timing and if I'm like a little long, then
Speaker 4: I know I need to like speed it up a
Speaker 4: little bit, or find the places where I can speed
Speaker 4: it up a.
Speaker 3: Little bit if I'm a little over, But.
Speaker 4: Try to just see where it is naturally first, you know,
Speaker 4: and then be like, all right, actually actually have a
Speaker 4: little bit more time, or oh I need I need
Speaker 4: to skip to my lou a little bit more, you know.
Speaker 2: So what are some of the preparations that you have
Speaker 2: Because you just said, which I thought was really great,
Speaker 2: listening like almost eavesdropping on conversation to hear the different
Speaker 2: textures of.
Speaker 4: Voice all the time, all Journey and I ever did
Speaker 4: when he was a kid too, And then just try
Speaker 4: to imitate people and just sort of start having a
Speaker 4: conversation in their voices. Or I don't know, just I
Speaker 4: think it's something that was in his is. I know
Speaker 4: it's something that's in his blood. Obviously he was reading
Speaker 4: for spruce when he was like four or five years old,
Speaker 4: doing little kids for spruce, or just repeating back or whatever.
Speaker 4: So I do think part of it is ear But
Speaker 4: I forgot what were what the question was?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: Oh no, I was just saying because no, in terms
Speaker 2: of like your preparation, because I think that's tell actors
Speaker 2: all the time to observe behavior and eavesdrop on conversation.
Speaker 4: See, it's kind of like how you want to prepare
Speaker 4: yourself to walk out the door in the morning. You
Speaker 4: need to do it before you walk out the door.
Speaker 4: So your prep should be all the time, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, so that when you're when you're out
Speaker 4: the door, you're already ready to face the world. So
Speaker 4: it's like your prep is all the time. So when
Speaker 4: it's time to read the script, you're you're just you
Speaker 4: just know, you just it's not like I don't I
Speaker 4: often don't get scripts until the last minute. Wow, Just
Speaker 4: like auditions, right, so you'll just go in and you
Speaker 4: just have to interpret it.
Speaker 2: And as a casting director, I can tell you this
Speaker 2: that we can't release anything until the director or the producer.
Speaker 2: So it always looks like from a cast for casting
Speaker 2: directors that.
Speaker 4: We just you know, I'm pretty sure we know that.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure we all know that. We all know,
Speaker 4: we all know. I mean, well, at least I just
Speaker 4: I just have always assumed that. And I don't get
Speaker 4: too much into the business of other people's jobs, so
Speaker 4: I'm just like, hey, I get the thing.
Speaker 3: This is when I get it. Do the audition, you know,
Speaker 3: stay out of the business. That was a big.
Speaker 4: One for me, was to learn how to just be
Speaker 4: in my own business and just do my job. Don't
Speaker 4: try to fix the script. Don't that's not your job.
Speaker 4: You're not the writer, you're not the producer. You just read,
Speaker 4: just just interpret, like, be the solution to the problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and it was.
Speaker 4: I wonder Phil was your guy at that show who
Speaker 4: said that, But it was one of these very wise actors.
Speaker 2: No, it was No, it wasn't him. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: But anyways, be the solution to the problem at the
Speaker 4: audition or at the job.
Speaker 3: Just be the solution. Don't don't don't add more like,
Speaker 3: it's not your bit.
Speaker 4: Just just so I get the script, I get the direction,
Speaker 4: and I just try to interpret it.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 4: I don't worry about, oh why am I getting it
Speaker 4: right now? They want it right now. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: we want auditions. When you get them, be present and
Speaker 4: do your best, and just I just try to interpret
Speaker 4: it and not be in anybody else's job.
Speaker 2: And then the other thing is is that you know,
Speaker 2: well when when the happen, I had an opportunity to
Speaker 2: talk to a lot of actors. But when COVID happened
Speaker 2: and we went to Zoom, actors complain about the Zoom
Speaker 2: process right. And I've always as a casting director felt
Speaker 2: because of actors that you know, we're putting you guys
Speaker 2: in difficult positions and not giving you the opportunity to succeed.
Speaker 2: But this is where I say training comes in because
Speaker 2: there's two things that you do that I stress to actors. One,
Speaker 2: you have to read every day aloud. That's what I
Speaker 2: tell actors. You know, I mean your job ninety nine
Speaker 2: point nine reading, that's what your job is. So if
Speaker 2: you're not a great reader, if you don't practice reading,
Speaker 2: or just grabbing different things, because truebody writes how you
Speaker 2: speak and you. And then the other thing I wanted
Speaker 2: to say is that you have a really trusting vibe
Speaker 2: because for whether a model is on a billboard or
Speaker 2: you're on serious doing a tie commercial, we trust you
Speaker 2: enough to say I'm gonna go out there and get
Speaker 2: some time. I'm gonna go to the grocery stores today
Speaker 2: and get some time. I'm gonna try you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like you sell us?
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think one hundred percent?
Speaker 2: Do?
Speaker 4: And I think I have a little bit of resistance
Speaker 4: around certain auditions that come in for products or companies
Speaker 4: that I don't.
Speaker 3: Really stand behind.
Speaker 2: I have a little resistance.
Speaker 4: And I so when I booked Tied, it was this
Speaker 4: whole diversity campaign oh wow uh, And.
Speaker 3: So I was so into it, you know.
Speaker 4: And the Oil of Ola campaign was be your best
Speaker 4: beautiful and that it's about impressing.
Speaker 2: The woman in the mirror.
Speaker 4: So I was able to really believe in both of
Speaker 4: those campaigns so much and feel so good every time
Speaker 4: I did a spot for them. So I think that
Speaker 4: has helped, and that is not always the case. And
Speaker 4: I'm like, Clarrent, fine, I mean, someone's got to make
Speaker 4: the Walmart money. Someone's making it. You know, yeah, the pharmaceuticals.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not like a big believer.
Speaker 5: But like someone's making that pharm of money, honey, and
Speaker 5: why should it could just be me?
Speaker 3: And then I can just rescue more dogs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, okay and have your rescue.
Speaker 4: Said yeah, and and and you know, and and I
Speaker 4: can make pharm of money and then I can you know,
Speaker 4: increase my health and wellness business for humans too?
Speaker 2: Why not? You know?
Speaker 4: So that's like a Sometimes we have these mental blocks,
Speaker 4: and I know that that's one of mine. I'm like
Speaker 4: trying to convince myself right now out loud and like
Speaker 4: almost by saying it to you, holding myself accountable, accountable
Speaker 4: for like, it's okay for me to make pharma money.
Speaker 2: Isn't that deep.
Speaker 4: Right that we can like block our own abundance and progress?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 4: Because I bet you whoever whatever you know person is
Speaker 4: reading those those ads now, they.
Speaker 2: Didn't have any resistance about making that money, right. Well,
Speaker 2: I mean there's there is a spiritual consciousness that definitely
Speaker 2: is the through line that you send in your work,
Speaker 2: and that's important. You know, we have some integrity and standards.
Speaker 4: What I always fall back too, and I don't think
Speaker 4: I can get away from is that, Like, I.
Speaker 3: Really would rather be behind a campaign that I believe in.
Speaker 4: So let's find a drug that actually helps people or
Speaker 4: something that actually, you know, really does help dogs or people,
Speaker 4: or something that I can be behind or even you know, I.
Speaker 2: Want to believe that the medical world is shifting, but
Speaker 2: I think we incorporate more wellness in commercials, do you
Speaker 2: know herbs? But you know, I don't know if that's
Speaker 2: gonna happen, because then you'll start healing people naturally. And
Speaker 2: that's a whole other conversation.
Speaker 4: It's the same conversation. It's the reason I have resist
Speaker 4: since around pharma. It's not like, can I do a
Speaker 4: commercial for turmeric for inflammation, you know.
Speaker 2: Which saved my life? There?
Speaker 4: You see, Yeah, that this this is who I am
Speaker 4: in my in my in my fitness business. That is,
Speaker 4: I'm the person that that's you know, suggesting turmeric and
Speaker 4: fear leina and chlorrella and like alkaline your system. And
Speaker 4: you know, yes, so I get that part of my career.
Speaker 4: Also get to flex that muscle too.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna go into another part of Jenny's hyphenated life.
Speaker 2: We're gonna transition into Jenny owns the Jim. What was
Speaker 2: tell us about? I mean, I think that's amazing and
Speaker 2: the wellness amazing because I think I feel like actors
Speaker 2: are going to start having more stress and anxiety because
Speaker 2: studios have figured out you can shoot films in fifteen,
Speaker 2: seventeen twenty one days and I just came off with
Speaker 2: fifteen day shoot in Atlanta, and it's a lot of
Speaker 2: pressure on actors and I just feel like there's stress levels,
Speaker 2: so they need this information. What made you transition into
Speaker 2: owning your own gym.
Speaker 4: I guess once I had my kid, I kind of
Speaker 4: stopped touring because well, not once he started kindergarten, he
Speaker 4: started school. I stopped touring because there was the whole
Speaker 4: I toured with y Cleft and that was when the
Speaker 4: Grammy nomination happened, and that was nineties two thousand.
Speaker 2: My son was born.
Speaker 4: I did some more touring with Tamia and Pink, and
Speaker 4: then when he started kindergarten, I was like done. And
Speaker 4: that's when I was still working with Spruce, thank God,
Speaker 4: and was able to stay home and you know, raise
Speaker 4: my kid, and I kind of stopped taking care of
Speaker 4: myself because I was so focused on being a mom,
Speaker 4: and I got up to like I'm five one five two,
Speaker 4: I was probably one hundred and thirty pounds, and I
Speaker 4: went up to like one eighty just not paying attention
Speaker 4: and eating like Hoggan dolls every night, and you know,
Speaker 4: just not taking care of myself, being really focused on
Speaker 4: being a mom. And then one day I woke up
Speaker 4: and was like, oh everything hurts. I'm like one hundred
Speaker 4: and seventy pounds and I'm used to being one hundred
Speaker 4: and thirty. And I started weight Watchers, and I tried everything.
Speaker 3: And then I found U.
Speaker 4: I was invited into a program with Jillian Michaels to
Speaker 4: do like a ninety day before and after, and I
Speaker 4: was a before person and I learned everything about metabolism
Speaker 4: and how much protein and how much carbs and how
Speaker 4: many healthy fats I should be having your macro nutrients.
Speaker 4: And I just learned how to do it. And I
Speaker 4: got down to like sixteen percent body fat and I
Speaker 4: was like one hundred and.
Speaker 3: Fourteen pounds, which w was too low.
Speaker 4: So I kind of learned what not to do, Like
Speaker 4: I learned what not to do and what how you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like I just asked what to
Speaker 4: do by learning by doing some of what I should
Speaker 4: not have done, but I didn't know we were on
Speaker 4: eight hundred calories because they were sending us the food.
Speaker 4: So anyways, it inspired me to want to help other
Speaker 4: people because I felt so good once I got to
Speaker 4: like one twenty five and I'm probably like they're around
Speaker 4: there now, so and maybe eighteen percent body fat or whatever,
Speaker 4: you know, just something that I could maintain easier, and
Speaker 4: I wanted to help other people do it. And I did,
Speaker 4: and I helped hundreds of people do it, and I
Speaker 4: opened four studios. The pandemic happened. I wanted to get
Speaker 4: out of the leases and I wanted to not have
Speaker 4: the exposure, so I went to online training and.
Speaker 2: Some in person training, like I visit them.
Speaker 4: I still have like a good base of like twelve
Speaker 4: to fifteen of my clients from back then, much less hours.
Speaker 3: I don't have this huge overhead.
Speaker 2: I found a two.
Speaker 4: Story apartment where I have a was able to build
Speaker 4: out a gym downstairs, so my clients can come here,
Speaker 4: I can go there. It's amazing. So I'm still in
Speaker 4: the same neighborhood. My studio was on.
Speaker 2: Eighty well I don't know tell you where I live,
Speaker 2: but I'm right around.
Speaker 4: The corner from where my studio was, so I have
Speaker 4: all the same clients and it's just it's much better
Speaker 4: for me. It's like I was up at five teaching
Speaker 4: six am classes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Wow. So yeah, but.
Speaker 4: Still has a business and have a life coaching background.
Speaker 4: So I think for these actors, what we need are
Speaker 4: our spiritual life coaches. Like my best friend Carla Durant,
Speaker 4: who you should also have on your show.
Speaker 2: Okay, I will miss Carla Durant.
Speaker 4: She has She created a job on a movie set
Speaker 4: with OG's oh gosh, what's his name?
Speaker 2: Who played in Hamilton? Leslie?
Speaker 4: So was Leslie Leslie Otum And he hired her because
Speaker 4: she's like best friends with his wife, and so he
Speaker 4: hired her to be the spiritual life coach for a movie.
Speaker 3: And it was like the first time anyone had done it.
Speaker 4: She created this role of spiritual life coaching on set
Speaker 4: for all the actors or.
Speaker 3: Just for everybody I got.
Speaker 4: I think whoever needed it because they were falling apart,
Speaker 4: and she saved the show. She saved the show, and
Speaker 4: so yeah, it was amazing for everyone. And I think
Speaker 4: they're going to start doing it more often.
Speaker 2: That's beautiful. For the time of us we need the
Speaker 2: mental health support. It's especially I mean, I hadn't been
Speaker 2: on a set in a while because of COVID. I
Speaker 2: was no longer an essential worker. But going on the
Speaker 2: set recently, actors are not doing the prep work that
Speaker 2: they need to come on set, and the sets have
Speaker 2: changed since COVID, so you only get one maybe two takes,
Speaker 2: so the work has to be done way before you
Speaker 2: test the set. A lot of people haven't, so there's
Speaker 2: a lot on that. I wanted to say this because
Speaker 2: you are so inspiring. First of all, I thought you
Speaker 2: were taller than five two. I thought you were like,
Speaker 2: I mean you a taller yay, but can you Oh
Speaker 2: my god, I'm pretty short. I'm very short. I would
Speaker 2: have never imagined that. Can you give our actors some
Speaker 2: advice on the importance like, because oh my god, I
Speaker 2: have five minutes. Okay, so my five minutes, I got
Speaker 2: to have you back. Can you come back on? Of course? Okay,
Speaker 2: So we're going to give you a date to come
Speaker 2: back on because I really want to talk about the
Speaker 2: musical aspect, because you know, we're honoring music months and
Speaker 2: I really want to right right back, but can It's
Speaker 2: very una you said, you know how challenging it is
Speaker 2: at that point eating Haga DAWs. And then because that
Speaker 2: was me, I woke up. My knees hurt, my back hurt,
Speaker 2: and I was like no more. And I started with
Speaker 2: eliminating sugar out of my life. So what is it
Speaker 2: that you can say to people who are having a
Speaker 2: challenging time losing weight, maintaining their weight, or you know,
Speaker 2: not eating the processed food. What can they do? How
Speaker 2: do they start?
Speaker 4: Wow, they have to have the leverage on themselves to
Speaker 4: want to start, you know.
Speaker 2: First, yes, and.
Speaker 3: Then I think it's about moving more. And I think
Speaker 3: it's about being.
Speaker 4: More aware, aware of what we're putting in and making
Speaker 4: a conscious effort to move more. Because I'm going to
Speaker 4: be fifty one on Monday.
Speaker 2: Okay, the show's over, everybody, and my matabilism get out
Speaker 2: of baby.
Speaker 4: I am mad moving, but my metabol moving though, That's
Speaker 4: the thing. So you want to move that body, you know,
Speaker 4: from early in the morning. But you know, sometimes we
Speaker 4: don't feel like moving, you know, So it's kind of
Speaker 4: we got to get that leverage first, you know, that
Speaker 4: like desire to want to move. But you know, they say,
Speaker 4: like if you don't move it, you lose it. Like
Speaker 4: I want to stay juicy. I want to stay like mobile.
Speaker 4: I want to be able to like you know, not
Speaker 4: hurt and be strong.
Speaker 3: Right, So that's my leverage on myself, Like what's your why?
Speaker 2: Find out your why?
Speaker 4: Has to be strong, your why, what's your reason for
Speaker 4: wanting to do it? Whatever it is, right, it has
Speaker 4: to be. And I just like I have obesity in
Speaker 4: my family. My mom was overweight big time. Spruce remembers
Speaker 4: my mom lost it though she did my food program,
Speaker 4: which is just basically become aware of what you're putting
Speaker 4: in so you know and then and also know your
Speaker 4: container size, Like I have a small container. So it's
Speaker 4: like if I well also now that I have so
Speaker 4: much muscle, I can eat my kind of ice cream
Speaker 4: every night, you guys, because your muscle's gonna eat it.
Speaker 3: Your muscle's gonna eat it.
Speaker 4: Look, I don't even like, oh it's and I'm eating
Speaker 4: like pizza. I mean, I'm not to say this, but
Speaker 4: like I eat my protein and I eat my salads too,
Speaker 4: but I do eat pizza and ice cream a lot
Speaker 4: for dinner.
Speaker 3: I get the chicken caesaror salad pizza, but like slice,
Speaker 3: but like I.
Speaker 2: Can enjoy my life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, before when I did the Jillian Michael's program, I
Speaker 4: was ripped like this, but I wasn't enjoying it because
Speaker 4: I was trying to count and like measure and like
Speaker 4: all this stuff. But like, it's just about awareness. If
Speaker 4: you're putting in too much for your container, your container's
Speaker 4: gonna expand to try to accommodate how much.
Speaker 2: You're putting in.
Speaker 3: So being aware of what's what you're putting in, how
Speaker 3: much of it you're putting in, and then.
Speaker 4: Moving more because you can burn some, right, so then
Speaker 4: you can eat a little bit more.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: But it's just about that.
Speaker 4: I hate when people say find balance, But you have
Speaker 4: to find the balance between the movement and what you're
Speaker 4: eating and how much you're moving.
Speaker 3: Okay, we're eating more than we're moving.
Speaker 2: We're going to expand. That's great advice, thanks right, and
Speaker 2: so inspired by you.
Speaker 3: And then build it into your life. Build it into
Speaker 3: your life. Like I have five rescue dogs.
Speaker 2: I have to walk them.
Speaker 4: So I'm doing like twenty thousand steps or fifteen to
Speaker 4: twenty on the average, just because I have to.
Speaker 3: I built it into my life right right, and I
Speaker 3: enjoy it.
Speaker 2: I enjoy it.
Speaker 3: So now I'm doing something that I enjoy with my dogs.
Speaker 2: And then I'm like, I can eat.
Speaker 3: I can eat whatever I want.
Speaker 4: Jenny, you are exes in the past that I was
Speaker 4: so mad at.
Speaker 2: You're just a beautiful reflection of who you are. And
Speaker 2: I just you know, I always encourage actors. You have
Speaker 2: to have stamina to be an actor and to work
Speaker 2: on these sets twelve fourteen hours. Also, I think what's
Speaker 2: great is that you know in your teaching because the
Speaker 2: food that we're eating, the water that we're drinking is
Speaker 2: not what our bodies are used to anymore because of
Speaker 2: the chemicals and processes and all that. So I love
Speaker 2: the fact that you come from the why first, because
Speaker 2: when you have that why, to be healthy, to live longer,
Speaker 2: to be here for my children, those things motivate you
Speaker 2: when you put stuff in your mouth, like I know
Speaker 2: it does me because I still have sugar cravings. But
Speaker 2: I'll go vegan before I get, you know, refined. But
Speaker 2: I'll say to myself, do I really need you know?
Speaker 4: But so sometimes sometimes you just have to learn the
Speaker 4: order of things. So if you can eat something like
Speaker 4: almonds to start lifting your blood sugar slowly and then
Speaker 4: have the sweet thing you want to have. Then it's
Speaker 4: already here, instead of going from zero to one hundred
Speaker 4: and spiking your blood sugar. That's the thing you don't
Speaker 4: want to do, but if you have like and that's
Speaker 4: why they always rep they've always suggested dessert after the
Speaker 4: meal because they want your blood sugar to start coming.
Speaker 3: Up a little at a time.
Speaker 4: Because blood sugar spiking causes like our minds and our
Speaker 4: chemistry and our brain to think they were under distressed.
Speaker 4: And then we we carry belly fat. That's what makes
Speaker 4: belly fat gather to keep us safe. So anytime you
Speaker 4: don't get enough sleep, anytime you're stressed out about stuff
Speaker 4: like that, that produces is a cortisol, the stress one,
Speaker 4: and then that makes us hold on to belly fat.
Speaker 2: You know what you're coming back part to Jenny, Jenny,
Speaker 2: and yeah, yeah, we come in part too. And then
Speaker 2: I want, yeah, I want I want you to come
Speaker 2: in my class too and talk to actors about health
Speaker 2: because you know, it's so important. It's just so important
Speaker 2: that we try and work every day of being the healthiest.
Speaker 2: We can be. There's just so much in the air
Speaker 2: and everywhere. So yeah, so we're gonna do that. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna bring Elsa on. Elsa has a spirited actor who
Speaker 2: has a question for you. Awesome, yes, so so good.
Speaker 7: Thank you for all those gems, Jenny. So today we
Speaker 7: have Ms. Melissa Mayer. Mlissa, you can come on him.
Speaker 7: You can ask Jenny what your question is.
Speaker 8: Goodness, Hi, Jenny, Hi, Oh my goodness. You are so
Speaker 8: inspiring in more ways than one. I feel like I
Speaker 8: have like a list, laundry list of questions for you,
Speaker 8: but I gotta keep it short.
Speaker 2: I'm just so inspired by your journey and your.
Speaker 8: Accolades, but not just all your successes inside of the
Speaker 8: entertainment industry, but the success of your health, you know,
Speaker 8: taking care of you, and I think that's very important
Speaker 8: and that that goes hand in hand with the mental aspect.
Speaker 8: You mentioned earlier in the interview that it took you
Speaker 8: a while to break into the voiceover. What kept you
Speaker 8: motivated to keep going and not give up since it
Speaker 8: took like over a year to break break into that industry?
Speaker 4: Hmm, Well, I was struggling, and I went to a
Speaker 4: nine day retreat in California with Byron Katie and I
Speaker 4: did her nine days called the School of.
Speaker 3: The Work, where you question every stressful.
Speaker 2: Thought that you have ever thought in your life.
Speaker 4: And so I cried for three days. There was a
Speaker 4: lot of silence. We woke up in silence. We did
Speaker 4: a silent walk first thing, we did a silent breakfast,
Speaker 4: then we did an hour of a guided meditation, and
Speaker 4: then we started questioning our thoughts.
Speaker 3: And that was where I learned.
Speaker 4: How to stay in my own business and that I
Speaker 4: had been so much in the casting director's minds.
Speaker 3: Of like why don't they love me? Why don't they
Speaker 3: love me?
Speaker 4: And they had not signed me yet to be exclusive
Speaker 4: with Paradigm, so I was like, wow, I haven't booked
Speaker 4: anything for thirteen months. They're going to drop me. And
Speaker 4: I questioned, I did the work on one stressful thought,
Speaker 4: casting directors should love me. And that was before I
Speaker 4: went to this school. That was like the night before
Speaker 4: I flew. But you could do it for free. You
Speaker 4: can do it for free online, you guys. It's called
Speaker 4: Thework dot com. This was in two thousand and nine, btw.
Speaker 4: So I did that thought and I got on a plane.
Speaker 4: I booked out That was scary too.
Speaker 3: I booked out, you.
Speaker 4: Know, I'm going to LA I don't have the money.
Speaker 3: I put it on a credit card.
Speaker 2: I'll be back in ten days.
Speaker 3: Don't drop me, you know, I'm trying to be care
Speaker 3: of myself.
Speaker 4: And when I landed, before I did the Nine Days,
Speaker 4: Jeb called me from Paradigm and said, hey, we just
Speaker 4: had a meeting about you. And I was like, no,
Speaker 4: because I left because I went to California, you know.
Speaker 4: And he's like, we want to sign you when you
Speaker 4: get back. He literally said the casting directors love you,
Speaker 4: joking and I was like, but but he goes, don't
Speaker 4: think about it. It's yes, it's been thirty you know,
Speaker 4: it's been over a little month, over a year. But like,
Speaker 4: we don't want you to think about that, because sometimes
Speaker 4: it takes people two years before they book something. Don't
Speaker 4: worry about it.
Speaker 3: We believe in you. We want to sign you when
Speaker 3: you get back.
Speaker 4: That was before I did the Nine Days, and he
Speaker 4: was like, enjoy your time.
Speaker 3: So I did the Nine Days. I questioned every stress of.
Speaker 2: Thought I've ever had.
Speaker 4: I cried. I you know, it was crazy, had all
Speaker 4: these breakthroughs and I came back my first audition was
Speaker 4: National Geographic, and I booked it, and you know, Nat Geo,
Speaker 4: you got like five hundred dollars. But like I screamed
Speaker 4: on the sidewalk when she called me, and then my next.
Speaker 3: Audition was tied. Now that being said, I was.
Speaker 4: I was raised Buddhist, so I do have a very
Speaker 4: strong Buddhist foundation of like never give up spirit.
Speaker 3: I have a memory of my past too that I.
Speaker 4: Could look at and be like, I don't know, things
Speaker 4: usually work out right, you're going to book something like
Speaker 4: in my past, I always have eventually something's gonna happen,
Speaker 4: you know, and just I guess that's faith faith, I
Speaker 4: don't know, And then and then it just kind of
Speaker 4: is taken off from there. But staying in my own business,
Speaker 4: I learned that from Byron Katie, because when you leave
Speaker 4: your business and you try to control somebody else's or
Speaker 4: be in someone else's mind, there's no one left left
Speaker 4: pending to yours.
Speaker 3: And I had left my business. How can I be present?
Speaker 2: How can I be the.
Speaker 4: Solution to the problem If I've left my own self
Speaker 4: to be in someone else's mind hoping they like me.
Speaker 3: No, you just got to stand in it.
Speaker 4: Interpret it me the solution, do your best, be there
Speaker 4: on time, and then let it go.
Speaker 3: To the universe that did we know that to be true? Right?
Speaker 2: And that's the whole thing of being here, right is
Speaker 2: to remember that, to continue that. That's where we live. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the great question.
Speaker 3: Even better than that is to help other people remember.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so thank you for for letting me, you know,
Speaker 4: be this person today.
Speaker 2: You're my person. Yeah, read so beautiful. Well, thank you Melissa,
Speaker 2: and thank you Elsa for our question of the day.
Speaker 2: Jenny's gonna stick around you guys. So Melissa is actually
Speaker 2: who is going to do something for you. So you
Speaker 2: can sit back and you can give her some constructive criticism.
Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd think great. Now should I mute myself now?
Speaker 2: No? No, We're going to come back on the Spirited
Speaker 2: Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore. Don't you go anywhere
Speaker 2: because Jenny is going to be with us. Okay, don't move.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me, Tracy
Speaker 2: Moore and Jenny. We are so excited and she's going
Speaker 2: to come back you guys, so you know, get comfortable. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we're gonna love that. So I'm going to bring els
Speaker 2: on and she's going to introduce the spirited actor who's
Speaker 2: going to perform for you today.
Speaker 7: Yes, thank you, thank you. So today on CLASSOM session,
Speaker 7: we have a special segment. We have Miss Melissa Mayers back.
Speaker 7: Welcome back, Melissa, thank you for having me. Welcome and
Speaker 7: in honor of Miss Jenny Fujita, Melissa is going to
Speaker 7: do a voiceover commercial for us and then get some
Speaker 7: feedback from Ginny. So when you are ready, Jenny, when
Speaker 7: you're ready, Melissa, excuse me.
Speaker 6: Tomorrow, the June tenth Party you've been waiting for is
Speaker 6: here this June eighth. That five join us in celebrating
Speaker 6: Juneteenth at the District presented by Frontier Airlines, Harley and
Speaker 6: the City Ofmorrow.
Speaker 9: Enjoy Bounce Houses Award winning Barbecue Contest R and B
Speaker 9: and performances by the Michael and Jennet Jackson Experience plus
Speaker 9: the Mister and Miss June Teeth Writing Contest celebrating June teenth.
Speaker 6: June eighth at that is strict.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: That was amazing for me, right wow, Like it kept me,
Speaker 4: It kept me, it kept me engaged the whole time.
Speaker 4: There was air and excitement in your in your you know,
Speaker 4: I like the tone it was, you know, it was
Speaker 4: like you you were really excited about it and you
Speaker 4: wanted everybody to come like that's I just felt drawn
Speaker 4: into it, like that's why I had to close my
Speaker 4: eyes because you're so cute that I was looking and
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 3: Like, oh, there's really fun, but I want to just.
Speaker 2: Listen to it.
Speaker 3: If I was just listening to it, you know.
Speaker 2: And then it was.
Speaker 5: June eighth, which is my best friend's birthday and my
Speaker 5: dad's birthday.
Speaker 2: Wow, there are too many, too many I'm on now. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So I thought there were so many words Jenny. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, there's so many because she
Speaker 2: has to give out information. She did it, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I was like I can write this down at that
Speaker 2: speed and get all of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Andmorrow, like I remember it already. That was the first
Speaker 4: thing you said.
Speaker 3: Boom. Yeah, wow, that was good. And I remember June eight.
Speaker 3: So as the listener, you want to walk away with
Speaker 3: the information, but she hit you.
Speaker 4: She hit you with Themorrow, and I was like, whoa,
Speaker 4: I'm with it.
Speaker 3: Wow, really good.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you Melissa, thank you so much, and thank
Speaker 2: you Elsa absolutely, and everybody grab your tissue because Jenny
Speaker 2: has to leave Boo boo, but I with you bit
Speaker 2: tight because she's coming back. That's the great part. Yeah
Speaker 2: them and please multi hyphenated. Thank you so much for
Speaker 2: your spirit. Thank you for that, Thank you.
Speaker 3: Fash to love you.
Speaker 4: I appreciate love everybody here, and thank you so much
Speaker 4: for having me.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jimmy NIC's right, say that tonight. I'm saying
Speaker 2: that tonight.
Speaker 3: I love care facts.
Speaker 2: Thank thank you so much, and thank you smooth Henry.
Speaker 2: When we get back. When we come back on the
Speaker 2: Spirited Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore, I'm going to
Speaker 2: give you guys some love. Welcome to Kudos Corner. Kudos
Speaker 2: Corner is where we celebrate spirited actors and we support them,
Speaker 2: but most importantly, we introduce them to you. This week's
Speaker 2: Kudos Corner puts the spotlight on spirited actor Jason Robinson.
Speaker 2: Jasan recently participated in the forty eight Hour Film Project
Speaker 2: in DC, where he was a featured actor in the
Speaker 2: short film Caught Up that took home two awards. On
Speaker 2: your next visit to the Smithsonian National Museum of the
Speaker 2: African American History and Culture in Washington, DC, look for
Speaker 2: Josan in the award winning interactive exhibit The Green Book.
Speaker 2: Kudos to Joson Robinson and now it's time to give love.
Speaker 2: It took me a long time to stand in a
Speaker 2: place where I received the blessings and I sat in
Speaker 2: the gratitude of all of my life's accomplishments. It took
Speaker 2: me a while to accept compliments. Sometimes I would cut
Speaker 2: people off before they said it, or I would just
Speaker 2: kind of yeah, yeah, yeah, them through it. But those
Speaker 2: are my issues. Both aren't anybody else who's you. But
Speaker 2: I had a situation the other day where I was
Speaker 2: in a meeting and the producer that I was talking
Speaker 2: to is much younger than myself. And when I asked
Speaker 2: him if he had read my bio or what did
Speaker 2: he know about me, he said, well, I heard that
Speaker 2: you have some, you know, little casting credits here and there.
Speaker 2: I can't tell you how many times my head spun around.
Speaker 2: It had nothing to do with ego. It had to
Speaker 2: do with respect and doing your own due diligence. And
Speaker 2: the other thing this gentleman said to me is that
Speaker 2: he doesn't have time to read bios or go through resumes.
Speaker 2: He just trusts people who refer people to him. If
Speaker 2: I did not stand in who I was in that moment,
Speaker 2: it would not have been a teachable moment for that
Speaker 2: young man. Instead of listing my credits and coming at
Speaker 2: him in an aggressive way because he didn't know my credits,
Speaker 2: I used it and I gave him the wisdom and
Speaker 2: the advice that I could give him of having over
Speaker 2: forty years in this entertainment business. Know who you are
Speaker 2: and stand in that, and don't allow anyone else to
Speaker 2: dim your light, take your shine, or discredit your credits.
Speaker 2: Stand in it, be in it, reveling, and be grateful.
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