1 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lowe. He is Matt William 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: shouldn't desisted to drive on Steelers Nation Radio, and I 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: Gadara down here now that might work on quite where 4 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: you go? Um, Greg, you want to hop on here 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: with this now? All right? Yeah? Well a chair fantastic 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: rab that chair this yeah, live radio, you like this, 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: it's perfect, perfect, all right? Be joined by Greg Bdard 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: here of Boston's Sports journal here. How you doing, Greg? Good? 9 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: How are you guys? Thanks for having me. I would 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: love to there's there's a lot less of you to 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: have now then. Yeah, I lost h I lost one 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: hundred pounds over the last years. About a year ago 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: I hit it and have maintained. So yeah, a big 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: change that when I come to these things or the 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: combine and stuff like that. The amount of people who 16 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: like do double takes. Waitard, you walked by me yesterday 17 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: and he waves and I'm like, I think that was Greg. Yeah, 18 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: good for you. Good problem to have. So Greg, you uh, 19 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: looking at what's going on with the Patriots here over 20 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, this has been a little 21 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: different obviously, you know it was gonna be different without 22 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. They're much of the same way as with 23 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: the Steelers without Ben Roethlisberger. When you make that change 24 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: over from that kind of quarterback stability, are the are 25 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: the Patriots right now? Are they still searching at quarterback? 26 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: Or they they feel like Mac Jones is a guy 27 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: because there were some statements made yesterday by Belichick that 28 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I think everyone loves to read into Bill's 29 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: statements and I understand, but you know, it's the way 30 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: I explain it, the way I think that how he feels. 31 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: I know that they really like mac. Um. Did everything 32 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: go great last year from his perspective? Um, No, And 33 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: and a lot of it wasn't his fault. The change 34 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: to Patricia as offensive coordinator and offensive line coach and 35 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: Joe Jos's quarterbacks coach was a disaster from start. From 36 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 1: the first offensive practice in training camp when they try 37 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: to theyuld try to go to his zone outside zone 38 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: running scheme. It was a complete disaster. And they were 39 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: doing Shannahan stuff right. Yeah, they tried, of course, you 40 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: know the problem was they didn't have it to be 41 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: an unstaff who would actually installed Kyle Shanahan's offense, which 42 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: is a problem. You know, it would be one thing 43 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: if they brought in some sort of guru who would 44 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: understand hand for years, you could be like, Okay, this 45 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: guy's saying an implement. It was just a disaster. But 46 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, I do think I think the frustration boiled 47 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: over with Mac Jones sort of about two thirds of 48 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: the way into the season. I'm sure some of you 49 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: guys saw some of the national games where he was 50 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: acting out. I think you know the Raiders game. I thought, 51 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: for the first time I understood his frustration, but I 52 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: thought that it really negatively affected the team in that game. 53 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: I do think Mac got better by the end of 54 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: the season. I thought he calmed down, he realized the 55 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: error of his waist, but he was really frustrated. And 56 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: the thing is is Bill. Bill has admitted to some people, 57 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: and I don't I don't think to the players, but 58 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: he's admitted to people that he screwed up the offense. 59 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: It was it was his fault. You see the change. 60 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: They bring Billy O'Brien, They bring an Adrian Clem to 61 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: coach the line who used to be with the Steelers. 62 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll talk about that, and I'm not sure 63 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: how successful that's gonna be. We're gonna have to see, 64 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: But I think they I think they like Mac. I 65 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: think they realized they screwed him up last year, they 66 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: screwed everybody up, and I think I think they're they're 67 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: gonna give everybody a fresh start. And I think, you know, 68 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: Billy O'Brien being there, it's it's going back to the 69 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniel's offense. I think that I think that Mac 70 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: is in a position to be much more successful this year. 71 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: So Mac Jones is a poster boy for this, and 72 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: he laid it out well. But the way I look 73 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: at it, like Isaiah Win still free agent, but him, 74 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: he didn't have a great year last year. But am 75 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: I gonna kill Isaiah Win for that? You know? I 76 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: mean I almost feel like anyone on offense almost gets 77 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: a pass when you look at their career. I wouldn't 78 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: give one to Isaiah Win. Yeah, well, I mean Isaiah Win. 79 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: And I don't know if you bring him up because 80 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: maybe the Steelers are might have interested in him, I 81 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: don't know, yeah, you know, right, yeah, but Isaiah Win 82 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: was a guy who um he you know, he was 83 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: an undersized tackle. We thought he was overdrafted in their 84 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: sort of disaster of the twenty eighteen draft where they 85 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: took Sony Michelle and Isaiah Win in the first round 86 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: instead of say, Lamar Jackson or Shack Leonard or named 87 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: Chubb or you know a host of guys. But Isaiah Win, 88 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: you know, he was fine for the most part. Um 89 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: as an undersized left tackle. The Steelers have gone through 90 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: that with Beach him back in the day. Um, same 91 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: sort of guy, I remember. Yeah, I did a lot 92 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: of comparisons to Beach him, um um. But the real 93 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: issue with Isaiah Win is once they decided to pick 94 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: up his fifth year option, which I didn't blame them for, 95 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: but as soon as they did that, he basically went 96 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: on cruise control. He didn't show up to offseason workouts. 97 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,679 Speaker 1: He didn't do this. He wasn't you know, he didn't 98 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: stay in the lineup, and I think they were just 99 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: they were just done with him. And that's his attitude. 100 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: Is the thing that you need to sort of investigate 101 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,559 Speaker 1: on how much he wants it, because he was getting 102 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: paid and he was just fine. He didn't put in 103 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: the work required, so like a guy like him might 104 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: have been part of the problem, part of the solution. Yeah, 105 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: But as far as opposite. Yeah, but one of the 106 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: big issues that people don't really understand is that, you know, 107 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: they changed the whole blocking scheme last year, where you know, 108 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: part of the greatness of the Patriots offense and McDaniel's 109 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: Billy O'Brien the first time around, is that the quarterback 110 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: could change anything at the line. You know, the number 111 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: one goal of the offense was don't run into bad place. 112 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, they put Maneatricia involved, and they 113 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: took away the line's ability and the quarterbacks ability to 114 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: even change plays in the line, so they would run 115 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: into terrible I had one player told me that if 116 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: they just would have kept the line calls the same, 117 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: they would have cut back on sacks and quarterback hits 118 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: by half and also negative plays. I mean, just that 119 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: sort of change just killed them and just didn't give 120 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: them a chance to take David Andrews yeah, you know, 121 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah I did not, because Max's not gonna 122 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: blow anybody away physically, but his mind is really good, 123 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: It's really quick, and you take that away from him. 124 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: I just that that didn't make sense to me. So 125 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: last year, at this time, the Patriots were in a 126 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: similar situation to where the Steelers are now young quarterback 127 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: heading in the year two, and they kind of hamstrung him, 128 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: uh in terms of what they did. The Steelers, on 129 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: the other hand, brought back Matt Canada because they they 130 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: wanted to give that kind of continuity to their young quarterback. 131 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: Is that the right way to go with that? I mean, 132 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: would you would you have rather seen the Patriots keep 133 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: it all together and despite some struggles? Yeah? Despite Yeah, 134 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: I think continuity is huge with you know, Dale, You've 135 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: been covering the league a long time just as I have. 136 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: And um, you know, I remember I remember covering Nick 137 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: Saban with the Dolphins back in the day, and who 138 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: was Scott Linahan was his offensive coordinator the first year 139 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: and he got the job, I think coaching the Vikings 140 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: and they brought in I think it was Mike Malarkey 141 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: was the offensive coordinator second year. And I remember Nick 142 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: talking about the Miami Dolphins playbook is the playbook. It 143 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: doesn't matter who who the offensive coordinator is. He's like, 144 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: I learned that from Bill in Cleveland, where this is 145 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: our playbook because we don't want to lose an offensive coordinator, 146 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: especially when you're a defensive head coach. You know, I 147 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: think those guys get put in a bad spot because 148 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: you know, say, like Robert Sala in New York, if 149 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator hits big, he's gonna be gone. Now 150 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: what do you do? You know, Whereas if you're an 151 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: offensive head coach, you know that's that you could. Yeah, 152 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: So I think I thought it was really interesting. I 153 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: understand from Mike Tomlins perspective why he did it, and 154 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: it's probably continuity reasons. But I gotta tell you, you know, 155 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: the Patriots played the Steelers this past year, right, didn't 156 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: I and I were watching a lot of film and 157 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: I did not think much of the Matt Canada offense. 158 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: I thought it was it was way too college, way 159 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: too gimmicky for what they have. Um, especially you know 160 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: with Pickett, I think Trubisky was starting. Yeah, he was 161 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: still the starter. I mean it was one of you 162 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: look at the Patriots, Everyone's like, oh, they were just 163 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: eight and nine? Yeah, how many backup quarterbacks at the 164 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: end up being like, I think if Kenny Pickett started 165 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: against the Patriots, they probably lose that game. Um, I 166 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: think they beat seven backup or third string quarterbacks they 167 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: couldn't beat too. They had to beat Teddy Bridgewater got 168 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: hurt and then Skyler Thompson came in and they ended 169 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: up barely squeaking out that last game of the season. 170 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: But I think twice from the Jets exactly and probably 171 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: Mike White would have beaten them games that were there 172 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: to be won. But I think that, you know, it'll 173 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: be interesting to see where it goes with Matt Canada, 174 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: because I do think as far as the pro game 175 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: right now, um, it's it's a it's a tough watch. 176 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe builds it more around what Kenny does well, 177 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: which I do. I was impressed. I watched the film 178 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: later on in the season against the Raiders, they changed 179 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: the offense to at the break where it went to 180 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: a much more run centric power running for your personnel. 181 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: Hopefully they're doing some play action because I think Kenny's 182 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: really good at that and I was. I was really 183 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: impressed the film that I saw of the Raiders game. Uh, 184 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: I was really impressed in a few other games. I 185 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: was impressed with what he did last year. So nobody 186 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: builds a roster like the Patriots. I mean that right, 187 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a strange way of doing things. 188 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: I've often said, build the coach bails out build the 189 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: GM a lot and Tom the quarterback. And Tom the 190 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: quarterback sure helps you know, he's a great deodorant. Who's 191 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: the best player on this team? Uh? In my opinion 192 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: there it's Matthew Judean clearly. Okay, I do I think 193 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: part of the problem with the Patriots and the way 194 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: they're building things. And you saw it even again this 195 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: offseason where they signed a special teamer and Chris Board 196 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: they bring back these guys spend so much money and 197 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: assets on special teams when you just look, I mean, 198 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: you go horrible on special teams. They were horrible and 199 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: and you also look at it according to Rick Gosselin's 200 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: special teams rankings, which a lot of people in the 201 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: NFL look at, the two worst special teams teams in 202 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: the league were the Chiefs and the Eagles. And so 203 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: there's no correlate. And Bill's still trying to win in 204 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: the margins thinking that he has the same quarterbacker. I 205 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: guess he just doesn't want to acknowledge like how much 206 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: Tom did. I mean them out of bad drafts and 207 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: bad off seasons that they would have and Tom would 208 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: just take care of it with his greatness and now 209 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: they're out of place where you look at the roster 210 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: and you're just like, where's the top end talent? You think, Okay, 211 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: Kyle Dugger, we've been waiting for three years for him 212 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: to take the leap to be you know, is he 213 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: a great Yeah? Is good war Moore? If he can 214 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: stay on the field, I think has a real chance. 215 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: But you know other than that, No, but you look 216 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: at their defense statistically and Bill's fallen into this trap 217 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: or he's even referenced it where we're a good defense statistically. Yeah, 218 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: but how are you against Josh Allen? Now Aaron Rodgers 219 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: is coming into the division the Dolphins. You can't beat 220 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: Tua and you know, have you bulked up at cornerback? No? 221 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: They still going with six foot three, two hundred and 222 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: sixty pound linebackers that can't keep up in the passing game. Yes, 223 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: like you know, it's just it's And then on offense, 224 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: I do think they have some nice pieces on offense. 225 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: You'd like another piece, but they just seem Bill. If 226 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: you if you had any doubts about who's in control 227 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: of personnel and what they're doing, I think this offseason 228 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: tells you it's just Bill being Bill, and he's gonna 229 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: be true to himself and you know he's gonna be 230 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: seventy one. Is that good enough. There's a lot of 231 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: people in New England and I think the owner is 232 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: one of them that is getting increasingly impatient and they 233 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: need to do something this year. It does seem like 234 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of owner impatience, which is rare. 235 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: You know, Like these two organizations that we're talking about 236 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: ours and yours, you don't see that very often. There 237 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: has been a lot of coaching changes lately. Yeah, it's uh, 238 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: you know. I asked Robert yesterday about how you know 239 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: they have had two losing seasons in the last three years. 240 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: And Robert because earlier a reference we had one losing season, 241 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: like last year we were eight and nine, and I 242 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: guess he forgot because he was like, he was like, 243 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: what was the second one? And it was the Cam 244 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: Newton year they were seven and nine and then they 245 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: were eight and nine and uh, and he was like 246 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: two losing seasons and three years he said it like 247 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: he I guess he didn't realize it. But I asked 248 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: him point Blake, I said, if that happens again, it 249 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: will is built Bill's job at Jeopardy or is he 250 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: just here to set the Don Shula all time wins record. 251 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: He needs nineteen wins to pass him and beyond. And 252 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: he you know, he said, look, I'm not here for stats. 253 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: You know, we don't keep players around for stats. I 254 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: expect us to make the playoffs this year. If they 255 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: you look at their slate, they have a much tougher 256 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: schedule this year. Are the Steelers on the schedule. I 257 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: think they are. I heard somebody mentioned that, you know, 258 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: Kenny pickett Um, they mentioned them in the group of 259 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks the third place this year. And you know, look Kenny, 260 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: Kenny's in Pittsburgh again. Okay, yeah, Kenny's you know, a 261 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: good young quarterback. I mean the last year, like we said, 262 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: they beat a bunch of backups. They if that they 263 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: were happening again, fortunate of the quarterbacks. They unlivable, they 264 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: really were. And uh I think that, you know, they 265 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: have a really tough slate. And plus once Aaron Rodgers 266 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: lands in the division, their fourth in the division. If 267 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: Rogers a jet, right, I mean yeah, they would be 268 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: no question. Betting markets say that too, and I think 269 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: that too. I think that the Dolphins now have Vic 270 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: Fangio on defense, and they got Jalen Ramsey. I mean, 271 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: I really wanted to see the Patriots be aggressive. Go 272 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: get a number one cornerback and Jalen Ramsey, Go get 273 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: a number one receiver and like say Jandre Hopkins or 274 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: somebody like Jerry Judy, which who knows it could happen. 275 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: I think they're waiting for the prices to come down 276 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: a bit, but they just they brought everybody back on defense, 277 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: they bulked up on special teams, which there are fewer 278 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: snaps than ever of competitive special teams. And on offense, 279 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: they're hoping that Billy O'Brien is the solution. Is that 280 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: going to be enough? It doesn't look like it, but 281 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: that's why they play the games. They got more tight 282 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: ends and things of that nature. That's yeah. I mean, 283 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: they got Gasecki, who's a you know, a big wide receiver. 284 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: The guy does not like the block, which should be 285 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: interesting in there. But they have Hunter Henry. What's really 286 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: weird about this team is that they barely have anybody signed. 287 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: They only have a few people signed for twenty twenty four. 288 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: They have like nobody signed for twenty twenty five. And 289 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: they have like one hundred and fifty million dollars in 290 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: cap space. I mean, I've written a column where I said, 291 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: if you're just looking at that, and it could change 292 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: because they have guys like Dugger Michael Winnie with the Guard, 293 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: other guys Matthew Judon. They could extend, they could get 294 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: to extensions here and that could evaporate. But right now 295 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: you look at it and you're like, twenty twenty four 296 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: looks weird. It almost looks like, well, yeah that Craft 297 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: and Bill have an agreement that, hey, you can do 298 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: whatever you want this year, but keep twenty twenty four 299 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: clean just in case we want to make it. We 300 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: want install sat Gerard Mayo as head coach and make 301 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: a change, and then they can decide on mac Jones 302 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: because you'll have to decide on his fifth year option 303 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: and who you want to bring back. So it looks 304 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: like a reset year. We'll see. Yeah, it's fascinating just 305 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: to see that happening with that franchise that that you know, 306 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: it's been, let's face it, the the you know, a 307 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: gold standard in the league for a long time. Here. 308 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: They got bumped off of Sunday Night Football last year 309 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: for I don't know, like some Giants Washington game or something. 310 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's not insulting to Robert Kraft. I 311 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: don't know what is. Yeah, it's it's fascinating. Our guests 312 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: has been Greg bdarda of Sorry it's Boston Sports Journal. Yeah. Um, 313 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: he didn't put your name on the logo. I did 314 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: not like somebody else, like somebody else, but check out 315 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: his work there, great stuff. Nobody breaks down film like Greg, 316 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: and not just I mean, it's just you're meticulous with 317 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: that stuff. Thanks. I don't know how you find the 318 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: time to do it. Yeah, I love it. It's the 319 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: that's the fun part of the job. Just tape. But 320 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. And I'm 321 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: Dale Allie. He is Matt Williamson. We're gonna take a break. 322 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: We'll be back with more from the owners meetings right 323 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lollie. He is Matt Williamson. 324 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: And if you've been watching the show here on YouTube 325 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: the last couple of days, you've seen our next guest. 326 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: You're Markabully kind of walking through and waving and the 327 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: one I mean, you put yourself in a position where 328 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: the well we didn't put we should have put traffic 329 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: behind us. Yeah, it lights it up. I know that guy. 330 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: I know that guy. So Mark, we were here at 331 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: the owners meetings, and there's some stuff happening within the division, 332 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: within the AFC, and obviously the Steelers have made some 333 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: moves as well. Um, where do you think they're at 334 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: right now in terms of what they still need to do? Well, 335 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: I like what they did y'all season. I mean still 336 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: obviously we have to see him on the field, but 337 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: on paper, the amount they paid for the guys, the 338 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: guys that they filled the holes with, I don't think 339 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: Omar or Andy could have did a better job. Right there. 340 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: They addressed the positions that I thought was obviously needed. 341 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: I mean, they needed Larry O back a healthier and Lario. 342 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: They needed interior offense, any offensive lineman really, because that 343 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: entire offensive lines not under contract for another year or two. Say, 344 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm all, if you stays healthy, should be in a 345 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: huge upgrade right there. But there's still some issues and 346 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: that's tomb and I had to pair it him, but 347 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: I will. I mean, that's just one part of the process. 348 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you still got to look for that safety. 349 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: I think I don't know what type of safety though. 350 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: Do you want that box guy. I don't know who's 351 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: covering Mark Andrews right now. I just don't know. It's 352 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: an interesting puzzle right now. Either they have a plan 353 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: and we don't know about it, or they're going to 354 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: bring somebody in, or there's a scheme twist or something. 355 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: I know. I don't want to see Minka anywhere but 356 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 1: playing center field. I don't know if Kazy is his 357 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: best spot is to come down there. I don't know 358 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: if Arthur Mullett is a guy who's going to cover 359 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: people down the field of that size. So that's even 360 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: when Patrick Peterson talk you know, doing different things with 361 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: him too, that could be it too. But do you 362 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: want him playing any run support off in the interior 363 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: as well? So Peterson is going to be a big 364 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: key to that. UM. I still think you need to 365 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: upgrade UM at least depth wise of the tackles position. 366 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got two guys that are you know, 367 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: more than serviceable getting better, but you need I think 368 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: you need depth there. I mean you probably have talked 369 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: you're you're not playing the Snaps this year. It's just 370 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: not going to happen. I mean, I'm sure you got 371 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: some options on the interior now with her big playing 372 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: center in both guards, um, Sam all can play better, 373 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,239 Speaker 1: But what do you have on the outside. And if 374 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: that draft breaks the wrong way, you're not gonna get 375 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: one of those top seventeen. But no, they're hard to find, 376 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: There's no question about that. There's a couple of things 377 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: that need to be cleaned up. But we have to 378 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: see him on the field. But uh, I like the 379 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: first eleven months so far of the new regime. It's 380 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: something different than I enjoy, something different, So which leads 381 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: me to the draft though right right we think we 382 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: know what they like to do, but we don't know. 383 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Omar is a little bit more flamboyant than 384 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: maybe Kevin was. So maybe they do pool blockbuster and 385 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: move up to get somebody, don't. I don't see them 386 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: moving up. I don't see him doing that. I think 387 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: that's an organizational thing. Um that you know, there's one 388 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: guy that has to sign off on any kind of 389 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: move like that, and and uh, it would have to 390 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: be a truly you know we talked about in previous segment. 391 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: You know what if Jalen Carter gets to twelve. You know, okay, 392 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: do you want to make that move. I don't feel 393 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: like they're one player away from being you know, you 394 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: know I topped top team. I think they need to 395 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: continue to build in some more positions to the point 396 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: where you can't make that move that you did with Devin. 397 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: But when you know you still had Ben Roethlisberger when 398 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: you made to move up to go get Devin Bush, 399 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: and you thought that was the missing piece, you were 400 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: two years removed from from going to the AFC Championship. 401 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: I just worry about sitting there at seventeen years say, man, 402 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: everybody we didn't want, need or gone. Now if I 403 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: only gave up a hypothetical fourth round pick to get 404 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: above New England and I could get Joey Potter, who 405 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: I like, you know, hypothetically, do I do something like that? 406 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: Maybe not seventeen to eight, maybe three or fourteen? Yeah, maybe, 407 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: I mean the best case scenario I thought, if everybody's gone, 408 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: would be seventeen to twenty three and add another pick 409 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: and you're still get the guy you want. But that's 410 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: the perfect world. When does that typically happen? You give 411 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: to have another team to play with on the back side, 412 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 1: of that too. It's so weird draft mark. You know 413 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: when you'll start looking at it and that you know 414 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: typically there's twelve to fifteen. Guy? Is that you know 415 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: these guys are number one draft picks. And I think 416 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: this year it's like eight. Did you look at the 417 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: go that guy's the first round draft? But then the 418 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: next group is deep. Is the next group goes down 419 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: to like sixty. So from like nine to sixty, any 420 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: of those guys you go in the first round, top 421 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: nine or those four quarterbacks. See, I'm getting getting to 422 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: the point now where I don't think we'll love us? 423 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: Is all that? Um? You know? I I in fact 424 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: our last triple take, I bumped Tendon Hooker ahead of him. 425 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: I think he's a better prospect. He just has a 426 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: knee injury right now. But in three you're gonna be 427 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: gone though, Yeah, but three or three are gonna be 428 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: gone A good chance of four. Once you get to 429 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: that draft and everybody's like, boy, I need a quarterback, Boy, 430 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: I need a quarterback. But then you got guy. Then 431 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: you got the Lamars Jackson situation. Is it not to 432 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: you could be you could be the Indianapolis Colts to 433 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: say we need a quarterback. But you know what, we're 434 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: gonna wait and sign Lamar after that. Why don't they 435 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: just get somebody like Brock Purdy in the seventh round? Yeah, yeah, 436 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: everybody wants Brock Purty nout. You noticed that, Oh we 437 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: had a great grade on him, were a great We 438 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: took this guy instead in the sixth round. Who just 439 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: said that? Uh one of these coaches just said that, Miami. 440 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: Who is the guy that started the playoff game from 441 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: Skyler thoms Skyler Thompson. McDaniel said, yeah, we we really 442 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: love Purty, but we took Skyler Thompson. Okay, party Mark, 443 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: How contents are you with the receivers and I mean 444 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: pass catchers, tight ends, wide out. Do they need one more? 445 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: I think they do. I kind of leaned that way 446 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: too with the order. Don't know what Kelvin Auson could do. 447 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: You know, he was pretty highly regarded obviously because his speed. 448 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: I think Baltimore wanted him, but he still what a 449 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: fifth round pick right flashed in camp and I like 450 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: Anthony Miller and he got Cody White, who I don't 451 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: think he could really take off the board right now. 452 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: He shows a lot in practice squad when he's out there, 453 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: but uh, you know, you know they're sweet spot there 454 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: at that thirty two that what forty died that range, 455 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: you can get somebody there. I do think they need 456 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: to add somebody there, and I think they will add 457 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: somebody there, because you can't go in thinking Kelvin Austin 458 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: is going to be serviceable. He might be. You can't 459 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: think gutter O'schesky's gonna do what he did in camp, 460 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: which was unbelievable. Then who knows what happened to him. 461 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: Then you can't rely on Cody White as well. And 462 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm sure. Maybe mis Boy comes back, 463 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: but I still have some hope for Anthony Miller. I 464 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: thought Anthony Miller was having a great camp and season 465 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: on that well yeah, I mean, you know, so match 466 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: been banging a table for a tight end for one 467 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: of these dynamic young tight ends to pair with Pat 468 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: Friar Muth. I like Connor Hayward. I just don't think 469 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: he's a traditional tight end. I think he's Kyle used 470 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: check behind the line of scrimmage, not gimmick. I think 471 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: he's a different type of player. How about taking your 472 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: tight end early moving Connor Hayward to that. I think 473 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: he can do some of that as well, right, right, right, 474 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: I think he's the wild card of all there. He's 475 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: not still, but he's big enough you can't block decent. 476 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: He got great body control and he's a six round pick. Yeah, 477 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: it has a pedigree. I mean he played what I mean, 478 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: you look at him. What'd he end up with? Six 479 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: seven catches? It wasn't many, but they were they were 480 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: down the field stuff. They were very impressive. So I 481 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: like cross and after the catch, and I think he 482 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: serves a great role though, right, those big defensive ends 483 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: in the four to three, how many how many guys 484 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: you have there just to block those guys you don't 485 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: He's that guy that can do that. I mean maybe 486 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: he needs a little bit better hands and playmaking ability, 487 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: but he serves a role I would I would be 488 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: a little disappointed if they take a tight end at seventeen. 489 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: I just said seventeen, but like thirty two or forty nine. 490 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: I just think that's the strength of the draft. And 491 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: if if you've read paint Painted Barredren, yeah, I mean, 492 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: and they play a lot of double tight end sets. Now, 493 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: I have no problem with Gentry. I like bringing him back. 494 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: I just think the defense doesn't fear him, and I 495 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: want one more guy, whether that's a slot receiver or 496 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: a tight end that creates big plays and is fearful. 497 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: I mean the defense is fear there. Thought of going 498 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: back to the power run game then adding the two 499 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: tight end, Belichick, Look, maybe they're going maybe they're thinking ahead. 500 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: This is where the league might end up being going 501 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: in and get lighter boxes. You get you a lot 502 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: of two high stuff. Yeah, it's it's it's fascinating looking 503 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: at where this could go this year. And uh, you know, 504 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: I looked it up. Mark, it's been twenty plus years 505 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: since they've had three picks in the top fifty like this. Yeah, 506 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: in the new the U sin seventy something was sixty. 507 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: I know, they didn't have two second round picks in 508 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: the in the in the new era that probably it's like, yeah, 509 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: it's Merriweather trade and Ricketts. Probably they had two first 510 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: ye they what seventeen and well those that turn off 511 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: quite well. But I think they had a couple of 512 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: second round picks in the sixties or something. But this 513 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: is a situation where, especially in this draft, when we 514 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 1: just talked about how you know the depth of the 515 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: of this draft. You're gonna get three premium guys if 516 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: you're looking what they had eighty two. Yeah, right right, 517 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: it's a deep glass. I mean you can get That's 518 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: why I would hesitative trading at all. It's seventeen. I mean, 519 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: you're not a team that's ready knocked on the Super Bowl. 520 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: But you get three or four starters out of this draft. 521 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: Maybe in a year or so. Well, yeah, if you 522 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: the previous two drafts, you know, with what you've acquired, 523 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: and then you had some young defensive talent, I think 524 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: that's where this one's gonna lean more to the defensive 525 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: side that you now you've started to remake that roster 526 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: with some young guys that are of similar age. You know, 527 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: another guy position is that edge rusher. I mean, I 528 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: don't want to use a high draft pick on an 529 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: edge rusher when you got Highsmith and what probably locked 530 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: up for the next four years five years. But you 531 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: need somebody, right, you want somebody who's not just a 532 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: rental player every single year for the past four years. 533 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: But I'm not going, you know, van Ness or anything 534 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: like that. Could that guy be Bud dupre my buddy, 535 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: I would Yeah, right, years you get justin Houston, you 536 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: get Bud Dupre. I'd prefer not to use a pick 537 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: on an edge guy. Yeah. I think it's the stage 538 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: if you're not if you're not drafting a starter, because 539 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: I think if you if you take one in the first, 540 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: they take one of seventeen or thirty two, you're almost 541 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: saying you're not going to resign Highsmith, which they are. Yeah, 542 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: so you know it's the balancing act, right, Yeah, it's 543 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: a mute point, people say, you know the people I 544 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: love what Tomlin's kind of throwing a couple of jabs 545 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 1: out there the last couple of days about people tracking 546 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: his movements at these pro days and stuff, like he 547 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: was at Iowa only to look at Lucas van Ness, 548 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: Like there's nobody else at Iowa they could possibly be 549 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: looking at a couple years ago when he went to Clemson, 550 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: everybody thought he was looking at the quarterback. Yeah, I 551 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: don't even know who the quarterback was. They probably had 552 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: somebody else that was good. Mark Tavis Bright believe the 553 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: drafted him, and Hopkins was on that team. I believe. 554 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: So there's more than just that. What about what about 555 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: inside linebacker I'm curious because to me, those three guys 556 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: are the same or very similar traits of Robinson. E. 557 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: Rob see, I'm a little higher in Holcombe than you are. 558 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying I'm not high on him, 559 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: but I don't think he can play that position of 560 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: what we been told that they've wanted for the past 561 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: seven years. I wonder if their outlook is different and 562 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: they've decided we're not gonna keep throwing premium resources at it. 563 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: If we're really strong on the back end and we 564 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: have a really, really good defensive front, that's where we 565 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: kind of cut corners and live with NFL players and 566 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: hope Robinson turns into something in draft another in the 567 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: fifth round. Yeah, they can create matchup issues there. You 568 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: know that they create matchup issues with two bigger interior guys. 569 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: You know they got all different type of formations to 570 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: allow rob Spellini to cover your Keenan allt so to speak, No, right, right, 571 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: so you have to be cogged of that as well, 572 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: maybe Trent and Sibson. I don't though, but I would 573 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: pick him at seventeen either, right, No, No, I'd certainly 574 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: consider him at thirty two. Yeah, Yeah, definitely at forty nine. Yeah, 575 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: that's that ship is still maybe you know, the hybrid 576 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: inside linebacker, Like you said, forget it. We want the thumpers. 577 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: We want Levon Kirkland. The thing is, if you look 578 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: around the league of highly drafted inside linebackers, nine out 579 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: of ten of them take two years before they get it. 580 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: You know, Shanahan manipulates them and they run the wrong 581 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: way and they're athletes, and then you waste years. I mean, 582 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not a good idea. I think 583 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: they have placeholders there and I think Holkham's more than that. 584 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: But I don't know that you're gonna get an instant 585 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: star at that position. This history shows that it takes 586 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: a while. Yeah. I mean even Roquan as good as 587 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: he is now, his first two years were rough. I mean, 588 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: Jeremaine Edmonds was. You know, it didn't really blossom until 589 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: this past year. I mean, look at all the first 590 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: round linebackers. Most of them take a lot of time 591 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: or don't hit it at all, or you guys, you 592 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: don't even know who's the guy from. I mean with 593 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: Shaun Evans that everybody loved, he washed out that year too, 594 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: and uh follow whatever is. Everybody loves Devan the guy 595 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: signed with Jacksonville. He went from Atlanta jackson Yeah, who's 596 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: name nobody can pronounce. Yeah. Yeah, so that's the guy 597 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: I would love. Yeah. I mean, but that's that's just 598 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: the reality of that position. It's it's you know, you're 599 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: gonna get manipulated by the by the quarterbacks and by 600 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinators. That's just what they're gonna do. Um. Yeah, 601 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens here. But we're a month out 602 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: from this, mark. Yes, do you see any free agent 603 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: additions before the draft? Maybe somebody, but not anybody at 604 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: gentry level. Maybe, but not anybody that's from the Steelers. No, necessarily. 605 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: I mean, there's nobody left him to see. Yeah, I 606 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: don't think there's even coming back. But well, we still 607 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: got to look at that third quarterback, right, I don't 608 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: you gotta break four to camp and then they got two, 609 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: I know. I mean, I'm sure they're waiting till after 610 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: the draft to see that happens. I mean, you don't 611 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: think Rudolph's that guy, dude, I mean I don't think so. 612 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: I don't think Rudolph. Oh, I've told he's no way 613 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: coming back. But he's no way coming back until he 614 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: doesn't have any other who else is asking him right now, 615 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: but Arizona doesn't have anybody. McCoy your starter. If you 616 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: signed Mason to a two year deal and send Mitch 617 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: on his way after this one, and you know, I mean, 618 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, you gotta look look at that as well. 619 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: So I mean you would think of safety, But what's 620 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: the only safety worth of? Throw it out there right now, 621 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: Josh Johnson, I thought I was interested in rap he 622 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: got signed a day or two ago, and if they 623 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: were up, I mean me, I probably would have brought 624 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: Tarrell Edmonds back. But something tells me that wasn't the 625 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: Steelers choice. I think that was Tarrell I've been saying, 626 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: I tap out. Yeah, not a hard position to find 627 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: a serviceable guy though, Yeah, yeah, but he had that role. 628 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: He had that NISI where he fitted. He was an 629 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: inning eat or two. He played a law of snaps. 630 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: So what's it good? I think there's a plan. I 631 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: don't know the plan. I mean, could the could the 632 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: safety be a first round pick? I mean plug and 633 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: plays safety, there's potential for that. Our guests, yeah, our 634 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: guests has been Markabulli of the Athletic does a great 635 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: work there. You check that out. He is Matt Williamson. 636 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: I am Dale Elly. You're listening to the drive here 637 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,239 Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back to finish up 638 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: the show today right after this. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lilly. 639 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson and this is a Drive on 640 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We are live from the NFL meetings 641 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: here at the Arizona Biltmore in Phoenix, r Last segment today, Matt, Yeah, 642 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: coming down the home stretch. Last. We'll do another show tomorrow, 643 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: but it won't be on the YouTube channel. This was 644 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: the last one today. That's a good guest day. I 645 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: did want to talk to you you real quick, yeah about 646 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: some of the uh So, I'm looking here at our 647 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: lads current depth charts. So if you were if you 648 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: were ranking the quarterback rooms in the AFC North, how 649 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: would you how would you look at it now? For 650 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: since he's won by a wide, wide margin and I 651 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: don't even care who their backup is, they still have 652 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: one of the bad Alan's or no, their backup is 653 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: now Jake Browning whoever. That doesn't change the needle at all. 654 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: They might not be unwise to use like a fourth 655 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: or fifth round pick on one of these guys, something 656 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: that's cheap, because Burrows would be so expensive. Far and 657 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: away they're number one, and that would put them over 658 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: every quarterback room in the NFL except for Kansas City. 659 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: I think he's that good. The Browns are still too reluctantly. 660 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: He was really really bad there, but I've seen great 661 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: play out of him, not in three or so. I 662 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: would say that was eight hundred and fifty days ago. 663 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: Steelers are three, and I think Baltimore is amongst the 664 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: worst in the league right now. I mean yeah, I 665 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 1: mean right now today. There are only two quarterbacks still 666 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: on this list right now? Who are it listed in black? 667 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: That's Lamar Jackson, who's a franchise player, and Tyler Huntley, 668 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: he's a restricted free agent who hasn't signed his contract 669 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: yet either, So neither one of those are employed at 670 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: the moment. Now. I understand that that Tyler Huntley was 671 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl quarterback, well deserved, right, But then all 672 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: they have less is Anthony Brown. So I mean this 673 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: Lamar situation, that's what we're talking about. It so much 674 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: they they vaunt up to or they go to two 675 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: as a second he signed. If he sticks around, I 676 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: just think as just saves today. They have to be four, 677 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: right and are mine, you know, one of the worst 678 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: five in the league or at the moment. How about 679 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: the running back position. I don't know that Mixing is 680 00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: going to be a Bengal well right now he is? Yeah, Uh, 681 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: the Browns are one. I think Mixon really took a 682 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: step backwards last year. So I'll put the Steelers too, 683 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: since he Baltimore. Okay, but one to four or two 684 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: to four's not drastically split. Yes, a wide receiver since 685 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: he Okay, Ravens are four with ease. Yeah, I'm a 686 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: big Elijah Moore fan. I still will put the Steelers 687 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: slightly ahead of them. Yeah, I haven't seen these guys 688 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: that like Donovan Peoples. Jones makes a play every two 689 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: or y yea yeah, but that's all he does. I mean, 690 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper's a steady force. He's a good player. Um, 691 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: you know, Pickens is still a little unproven. But I 692 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: would put the Steelers ahead of them. Okay, Um, tight 693 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: end Baltimore Pittsburgh Browns Bengals. Yeah, yeah, okay, offensive line, 694 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: Browns are still one. Okay, it's almost a three way time. 695 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: I mean they're they're pretty close, which goes against us. 696 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: So when we talked about the rankings late last week 697 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: on our show, those were my Clay's rankings. The Ravens 698 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: were like one of the top six or seven lines 699 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: in the league. And I just don't get it. And 700 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: they lost a starting guard and I don't trust Stanley, 701 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, so they didn't add anything, and I thought 702 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: it was I thought their line was better than since 703 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: he's in Pittsburgh's last year, but as currently constructed, with 704 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 1: the Steelers adding stuff and the Ravens losing stuff, I 705 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: think they're Those three are very very similar defensive tackle. 706 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: Browns are still last. Yeah, it's Jordan Elliott and Dalvin 707 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: Tomlinson who they paid a ga jillion dollars. Steelers are 708 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: first with Cam Yeah. Uh. The Bengals are two with Reader. Yeah, 709 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: Baltimore's not very strong there. I mean it's Proderick Washington 710 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: and Michael Pearce. They're actually four. Thomlins is better than 711 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: those guys, Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think so. Um. 712 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: I bought on the edge. Steelers are one, Browns are two. Okay, 713 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: Bengals are three Ravens or four. Yeah, I think that's 714 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 1: very clear. Yeah, that's it's uh and then uh they 715 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: list outside linebackers and defensive ends differently here off the 716 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: ball linebackers off the ball linebackers, Ravens are one, I 717 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: mean broke one's a star. Yeah, Steelers are no. I 718 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: was gonna say four, but the Browns are pretty bad there. 719 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 1: That's a tie for third slash fourth, and the Bengals 720 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 1: are two. One and two are obvious to me. Three 721 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: and four are the same. Okay, okay, yeah, I mean 722 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: if you look at those inside backers for the it's bad, bad, 723 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: bad bad cornerback corner. This used to be a slam 724 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: dunk for the Ravens, and it's no longer that. I 725 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: think their first round pick has a very good chance 726 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: to be a corner, even though they need wide receivers 727 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: as well. Right, No, those are two big needs and 728 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: they don't have corbeck. Uh. I mean right now it's 729 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: Marlon Humphrey and Brandon Stevens. Oh yeah, they don't have 730 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 1: anybody else under Jaylan Armore, Davis, Daryl Worley, Trey von 731 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: Mullins who they signed like just guys. I still put 732 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: the Steelers last, Ravens third, Bengals one, Browns two. But 733 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: I think I think I have the Steelers ahead of 734 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: the Ravens, dah. I think Patrick Peterson can still play. 735 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 1: There's not a ton of difference between Patrick petersonell and 736 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: thirty year old Marlin Humphrey. I hear you Steelers a 737 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: better depth. I don't know, LEVI starts for them. Both 738 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: teams could use the first round pick there well without 739 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: a diet. And I mean where when we usually have 740 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 1: this conversation, the corner rooms are usually a lot better 741 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 1: than this in this division. I mean they're down from 742 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: their normal standards. Are you putting that You're putting the 743 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: Bengals ahead of the Steelers as well? With a Woozier 744 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: and Taylor or cam Britt or Cambritt Taylor slightly Tim Hilton, 745 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: cam Taylor, Brette and Hilton. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hilton. That 746 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: means he's a corner. He's a corner. I get it. 747 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: I get it. Safety Steelers are one because I mean 748 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: that's a maker, carries, cares a lot of weight. The 749 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: I like the Ravens pairing still Williams and Hamilton is 750 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: a really good group. And the Browns are four. So 751 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: since he's three sounds, since he's right, it's lots of 752 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,240 Speaker 1: both starters, right, yeah, I mean they're they're starting safeties 753 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 1: right now. Are Dax's Hill who we liked last year? Yeah, 754 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: but he did and Nick Scott and the Browns lost 755 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: Josh Johnson. Though they lost one of their starters, they 756 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: got Grant Delpitt and one Thornhill. Yeah that's better than 757 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: what the Bengals have right now. I guess yeah, yeah, 758 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: I'd go Steelers Ravens Bengals. Uh oh no, I'm sorry, 759 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: Steelers wrangles, Steelers Ravens, Browns Bengals. You might be able 760 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: to make the argument that the Ravens are number one 761 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: there in the division at safety with Mark Marcus Williams 762 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: and Kyle Hamilton. Yeah yeah, I mean, and Williams is 763 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,320 Speaker 1: a really good player, which again leads me to the 764 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: why you know, you might see the Steelers do something 765 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 1: there in the draft. I mean, I thinks he's a 766 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: quality player. But fourth in that conversation, yeah right, right, 767 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,399 Speaker 1: that those two are close, they stand at the top. Yeah, 768 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: the other two are just kind of yeah, yeah, they 769 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 1: got hit hard, very hard, very very hard, very hard. 770 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: But interesting, um soub just to change. I mean, going 771 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 1: back to our Ravens conversation, they haven't added anything all offseason, right, 772 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: I mean, and we kind of put them fourth a quarterback. Yeah, 773 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: so that's tard Now, like, are here going kicker kicker? 774 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: Nobody cares about the kickers? Baltimore's one bosses too, the 775 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,359 Speaker 1: Section three and the Cleveland's right right right searching there 776 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: you go. Yeah, it's not that hard. Guys happy now, Yeah, 777 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 1: Tucker still won. Tucker is still number one. But I'm 778 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: out doing punters or long step. But yeah, so, I mean, 779 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: you know when you when you talk about this Lamar Jackson. 780 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: That's why we've talked about it so much. It has 781 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 1: a massive ripple effect through the division, no doubt about it. 782 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: And I mean what the most intriguing thing to me 783 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,959 Speaker 1: is I think he's gonna play. Of course he's gonna 784 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,720 Speaker 1: play somewhere. I don't think he's gonna be a raven. 785 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what. That bridge is totally burned. Get 786 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 1: some breaking news here for you. I do bring it 787 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: on the ALU. The NFL has approved some new rules 788 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: and by laws. He oh, okay, here we go. Okay, 789 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 1: So kickers will now be able to wear zero to 790 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 1: forty nine or ninety ninety nine. You can see a 791 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: number zero out there this year, kickers with a ninety 792 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 1: nine on their backs. It's gonna be pretty funny looking. Uh. 793 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: They will be allowed to make an adjustment to the 794 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 1: play clock following instant replay reversal, consistent with other timing rules. Okay, 795 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: big deal. Houston's a UM expand the replay officials jurisdiction 796 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: to allow review on failed fourth down attempts. So that 797 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: was taken care of by the Competition Committee to change 798 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,359 Speaker 1: the definition of a launch to leaving one or both feet. 799 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 1: It's a safety issue. Yeah yeah, I kind of figured 800 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: that would pass. Uh, the tripping file did come come through, 801 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: so that when they'll be a personal fight, I thought 802 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: that would they passed the it's a penalty now for 803 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: illegally handing the ball with other illegal acts. I don't know. 804 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: I didn't know what that meant. Um, you're also now 805 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: it's a penalty for illegal punts, drop kicks, or place kicks, 806 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,879 Speaker 1: consistent with other illegal acts such as the forward pass, 807 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: the trip, which is a loss of down and yeah, yeah, yeah, um. 808 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 1: So I'm shocked that didn't happen earlier in NFL life, 809 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: you can't. UH, the offense is prevented from benefiting from 810 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: an extension of the half as a result of a 811 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 1: their file. And finally, a penalty on purpose. Clarified the 812 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: usage of the helmet against an opponent by removing the 813 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 1: butt ram spear language from Article eight and incorporating to 814 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: those I'm not particularly in tune with the top of 815 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: my head, so the buy loss summaries. UM to change 816 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: the claiming period from Monday for players who are waived 817 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 1: to Friday and sat on the Friday or Saturday to 818 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 1: the last week of the regular season. UH, to insert 819 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: strength of victory as a second tiebreaker for awarding contracts, 820 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 1: so if you claim somebody strength if you have the 821 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,280 Speaker 1: same record for waivers or strength of victory for waivers. 822 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: And then to adjust the rules for postseason signings to 823 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: account for the standard elevations role up to free postseason 824 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: rosters four pm New York Time on Wednesday following the 825 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,919 Speaker 1: last week of the regular season. Not earth shaking news. 826 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: There no nothing nothing, nothing great there No, I don't know. 827 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,399 Speaker 1: I don't see a whole lot of changes with the rules. 828 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 1: They did go to uh one one cutdown date for 829 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: or the rosters in training camp. So well okay at 830 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: one time. So it'll be an avalanche of science, nothing 831 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: major like some of the things that we talked about. 832 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: There they pushing of the of the advancing and that 833 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 1: didn't pass. What it'll be interesting, though, is we'll start 834 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: hearing mini camps. What are the points of emphasis this year? 835 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,879 Speaker 1: Those will be because those are when they really push things. 836 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 1: Those will definitely be k Yeah, for sure it is 837 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 1: what that'll be. I mean, who knows what it is. Absolutely, 838 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: points of emphasis will be a big term coming up. 839 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: We'll hear from my art Rooney the second later he'll 840 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: come up talk about the probably see see what he 841 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: thinks is a big deal out of this. I don't 842 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 1: see a lot of major changes there. People are still 843 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: going to recognize the game. The idea of the punts 844 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,359 Speaker 1: going out to the twenty five didn't pass. That didn't 845 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: That would have been one that the fans definitely would 846 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: have recognized. But all in all, these are the least 847 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,359 Speaker 1: changes I can remember in any offseason. I'd say at 848 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: least significant. Yeah, other than fans will recognize when they 849 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: see somebody running around out there with numbers row on yeah, 850 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 1: or ninety nine on. I think he's Wayne Gretzky. Yeah, 851 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: So go get your Steelers zero. Sergi's now on Steelers 852 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 1: dot com. A little shameless promotion there, Matt. That's gonna 853 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 1: do it for the show today. There you go. Good stuff. Absolutely, 854 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: we will be back again tomorrow with the show, but 855 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 1: we won't be joining you on YouTube, so right sorry, 856 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 1: YouTube focus back on Friday as well. We will be 857 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 1: back for the show Friday. Then we'll wrap up start 858 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 1: getting back into the mock draft stuff. Yeah, we've done 859 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: April's right here, it's right there. So we've had a 860 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 1: lot of draft talk yet we have not well, maybe 861 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,399 Speaker 1: more we've done. We've done a lot of draft talk, 862 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: but not this week. 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