Speaker 1: Guys with Jenny Guard and Tori Spelling. Everybody's here, We're here,
Speaker 1: I'm not here together. It's gobble gobble gobble weak. Please
Speaker 1: don't ever say that or do that with your neck again.
Speaker 1: I don't mind it. Actually, Oh god, you're a cute turkey. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's Thanksgiving week and this is our our third episode,
Speaker 1: right of n how are we doing? Cis are we
Speaker 1: we We're doing great? She would be very relaxed. No,
Speaker 1: because you're you're the expert at this. This is new
Speaker 1: for us, so we need to know. Like, how dad,
Speaker 1: do you think we're doing? I think people loving fun.
Speaker 1: I'm liking it. Yeah, And how did you guys like?
Speaker 1: Watching back episode two? Oh my goodness. I I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: it's over so fast. It went by so quickly compared
Speaker 1: to it. When it was over, I kind of wanted
Speaker 1: to bench and like keep going, But I waited. You
Speaker 1: wanted more of your own show? I did, but I didn't.
Speaker 1: I waited for everybody else. I didn't want to, you know,
Speaker 1: be ahead of the time. My husband is watching this
Speaker 1: with me for the first time because he didn't see
Speaker 1: it when it first aired, and so he's trying to
Speaker 1: just like kind of like get a grasp of everybody.
Speaker 1: So Dylan's like a bad boy, but like he doesn't
Speaker 1: live in a house like it lives in a sweet
Speaker 1: Is it holding his interests? I'm very curious. It really good.
Speaker 1: I'm very happy right now. Yeah, I'm so ready he's
Speaker 1: doing that. That sounds so cute. What I like that? Wait? Now? Why? Okay?
Speaker 1: Is it because he's younger than he didn't watch it
Speaker 1: for around the first time, or because he's a boy
Speaker 1: or both. He's two years younger than me, so I'm
Speaker 1: robbing the cradle. Um, But yeah, and I think he
Speaker 1: was just younger. Such a cougar. That's glad. I'm glad.
Speaker 1: Oh the nails, you guys. You can't see her right now,
Speaker 1: but let me just be your eyes right now. Tory
Speaker 1: looks radiantly beautiful. She's all gussied up, well lit, beautiful
Speaker 1: lipstick on, and she's got these nails like fancy lady nails.
Speaker 1: Are they fancy lady nails? Or they're I mean all
Speaker 1: the kids are wearing them. I mean, hello, have you
Speaker 1: watched Instagram? Like all the like millennials have these long nails.
Speaker 1: I just never had because you mean, like a poopy diaper,
Speaker 1: and uh, I don't want to like cut his balls
Speaker 1: off or anything so aggressive, but we get it. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I put mittens on the change them.
Speaker 1: But I have these long nails. Who've been playing a
Speaker 1: character that's supposed to be a milf? So what's that? Mother?
Speaker 1: And I'd like to free mother. I'd like to ask. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's my kid's favorite thing. They're mom, Mom, tell everyone
Speaker 1: the character you're playing. And I'm like, okay, I'm playing Shoshana,
Speaker 1: a forty year old. I just like, that's Showshanna, forty
Speaker 1: year old, blonde, jewish mouth. What okay? I know, I
Speaker 1: know how excited you are to be playing a milf
Speaker 1: deep in your heart. No, I'm excited because I get
Speaker 1: to wear makeup, wear my hair and dress and wear
Speaker 1: these fancy nails, all these things that she would never
Speaker 1: let me do if we were together. That's not true.
Speaker 1: It's just the nails. It's the it's the nails. They're
Speaker 1: long and they're flashy, and I don't care. Don't like
Speaker 1: when I'm flashy. She doesn't like when I'm gussied up.
Speaker 1: I do like you gussied up. It's just the nails.
Speaker 1: They creep me out. We can move on. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: wear these nails back to l A and scratch. They
Speaker 1: literally just give me like he get the ships when
Speaker 1: I think I'm just scratching. No, don't touch my hand.
Speaker 1: But do you do? You look real pretty? Thanks? So
Speaker 1: do you? Before we got on here, um, you guys
Speaker 1: were discussing was it a picture that you guys were
Speaker 1: looking at from the past or one not? Because it's
Speaker 1: started with I think I sent you this week, like
Speaker 1: three pictures of you and I from the internet from
Speaker 1: some feed that I saw. I like message them to
Speaker 1: you and said, we have a problem. We're starting to
Speaker 1: look alike. Oh my god, you guys. Okay, So first
Speaker 1: of all, she deemed me my best friends, lit into
Speaker 1: my Instagram d M and was like have you know
Speaker 1: you were like, look, you showed two pictures like when
Speaker 1: we were younger and the one now, and you were like,
Speaker 1: do you think we're starting to look alike? And I
Speaker 1: was like, wow, that on good call. I thought it
Speaker 1: like midnight, So d M D back, you're morphing into
Speaker 1: each other. But that reminds me. That reminds me of
Speaker 1: the other picture that you sent me. So we went
Speaker 1: to Israel for twenty four hours hours. This was like
Speaker 1: a year ago. Yeah yeah, to do a campaign for
Speaker 1: a kid's brand, clothing brand, which was a really cool
Speaker 1: commercial that we filmed. We literally flew fifteen hours, I
Speaker 1: think it was fifteen hours. Off the plane, went to
Speaker 1: the hotel, slept, got up, went to a sound stage film,
Speaker 1: got on a plane and went home your entire trip
Speaker 1: and they had us done up all fancy, and we
Speaker 1: took a picture in the elevator I think right before
Speaker 1: you went to the ampom to come home. We thought
Speaker 1: we looked really good. We did we think we looked good?
Speaker 1: Or did we think we look No? I felt really
Speaker 1: like I look good. Like these Israeli artists just did
Speaker 1: some magic on me and they made me look good.
Speaker 1: You do yourself, I have to was it me or
Speaker 1: you that had it? Listen? Okay? So you guys, okay, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this is even better. So we arrived there after this
Speaker 1: fifteen hour trip and we get there and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: Jenny guard Tory spelling, need to know, everyone's so nice,
Speaker 1: and they just kept bringing a sushi and we're like, well,
Speaker 1: we want to tell you like your food and They're like, oh, sushi,
Speaker 1: because in Hollywood you guys eat sushi. And we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's one sushi and Israel. But they were so nice.
Speaker 1: And then I sit down in the hair chair first
Speaker 1: and they were like, okay, so uh so we're just
Speaker 1: gonna go underneath and we're gonna make these tight braids
Speaker 1: to pull your face back under your hair. And I
Speaker 1: sat there and I'm not gonna lie. My my eye
Speaker 1: teared up just one and I was like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: I look bad like I'm one been really cold if
Speaker 1: they got to do that. And then they're like, no, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, we do this with everyone, even like young models.
Speaker 1: And they brought and they did to Gen two. So
Speaker 1: I feel a lot better. And it hurts like mother,
Speaker 1: they medicate you and do this to your hair all
Speaker 1: at the same time. So we but we were like, whoa,
Speaker 1: this looks good. Looked like we had just had I
Speaker 1: don't know, some crazy face. Faces were like pulled and
Speaker 1: it hurts so bad. But we were like, oh, we've
Speaker 1: heard of this, like Hollywood actresses, they really taped their
Speaker 1: faces back in the day in the fifty right, Okay,
Speaker 1: so we were thinking we were looking really good. We
Speaker 1: were taking pictures and posting and then may I say
Speaker 1: what The first comment was, may I did Jenny Kirth
Speaker 1: have a face lift? And then she got mad at
Speaker 1: me and she's like, I knew didn't look good. I
Speaker 1: was like, I think you look great. We just both
Speaker 1: looked super Yeah. I couldn't even close my mouth. I
Speaker 1: don't think they were making comments about both of us.
Speaker 1: And anyway, I love that picture still, so going back
Speaker 1: to later that day, I stand by it. Going back
Speaker 1: to later that day, we had a picture side by side,
Speaker 1: and then I think you brought it up. I did.
Speaker 1: I brought up that there was a striking resemblance to
Speaker 1: some people that I was thinking of. Oh you know what,
Speaker 1: you were right. See you do have a good memory.
Speaker 1: Someone did mention it on on Instagram. You were right.
Speaker 1: We we we looked like, um hot chicks. Is that
Speaker 1: what it's called chicks? Yeah, in white chicks the way
Speaker 1: and brothers when they are in makeup to look like
Speaker 1: white women. Now that you're say it, every time I
Speaker 1: look at you, I think, yeah, sorry, every time I
Speaker 1: look at myself, I see it. Like So then I
Speaker 1: mocked up a picture of our faces from that shoot
Speaker 1: on the poster of Marlon and Shawn Wayne's from White
Speaker 1: Chicks and if you're lucky, I might share it with
Speaker 1: these this Oh my gosh. We actually decided we were
Speaker 1: going to post it. We were all riled up a
Speaker 1: couple of glasses of wine, and then we didn't post it.
Speaker 1: We rethought that with a crazy trip though hours. But
Speaker 1: it was fun. We had so much fun on our
Speaker 1: flight and it was just like we were first. It
Speaker 1: was so nice. Yeah, I had a good eighteen hours
Speaker 1: of sleep or whatever it was, and you sat there
Speaker 1: biting your real nails because you didn't have those hideous
Speaker 1: fake nails. Then you were biting your nail nails and
Speaker 1: you were like playing on your phone and asking for
Speaker 1: more champagne the entire eighteen hours. Every time I woke
Speaker 1: up and glanced over you, you were doing the same thing.
Speaker 1: Are you a champagne drinker? On flights? I'm just a
Speaker 1: terrified flyer and she knows that. And here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I'm so scared of flying that there's very few people
Speaker 1: I will fly with in this world and she is
Speaker 1: one of them. Me lucky you, um. But it's really
Speaker 1: hard because she runs the gamut of like on one side,
Speaker 1: she's very nurturing and she'll hold my hand during takeoff.
Speaker 1: And then on the other side, she's just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna go to sleep. I'm and do my
Speaker 1: thing and buy and I'm like, wait, wait, wait, don't
Speaker 1: go to sleep, hang out with me. I'm I'm a
Speaker 1: tough lover. I believe in tough love. Yeah, were mixed
Speaker 1: with you know, like a softness. But so she went
Speaker 1: to sleep and I had to eat like all the
Speaker 1: chips and candy packets on the flight already. Woke up
Speaker 1: and they're just wrappers everywhere, literally everything really long. Did
Speaker 1: you guys get to travel a lot with Beverly Hills?
Speaker 1: I know, I know that you you went to Did
Speaker 1: you actually go to Paris Tori for those episodes? I'm
Speaker 1: jumping ahead. I did not. That was on the back lot. No,
Speaker 1: you're killing my dream Universal. Oh it Actually I actually
Speaker 1: traveled a lot though there there were trips. Where were
Speaker 1: the trips? You went to Israel? Oh yeah yeah? We
Speaker 1: uh I in Gabrielle, myself and Parker Lewis can't lose
Speaker 1: but for pleasure reason went on tour of Israel. No
Speaker 1: whisper Fox and I think he had a show on
Speaker 1: Fox at that time, so that's with us. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we went to Israel. We need to take a break
Speaker 1: and then we should get into the episode and dissect it.
Speaker 1: Oh we have wine. I see the wine. Alright, time
Speaker 1: it's re watch time. Let's take a break and we'll
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Speaker 1: You guys are being hesitant to get back into this
Speaker 1: episode only because it was Luke Perry's first appearance on
Speaker 1: the show and we can't speak about him and without
Speaker 1: addressing the obvious and yeah, I could imagine that's really
Speaker 1: hard for you guys. Yeah, that's what we were just
Speaker 1: kind of trying to um how we wanted to go
Speaker 1: about talking about this, because yeah, this is Dylan's first episode,
Speaker 1: So Luke Perry's first episode of Beverly Hills nine O
Speaker 1: two and O and um, that was a pretty exciting
Speaker 1: thing for everyone, I think, not just for those of
Speaker 1: us that got to work with him, but it was
Speaker 1: a big deal, like Dylan McKay was a big, big
Speaker 1: deal in the history of like television. And it's a
Speaker 1: hard thing because as hard as people probably think it
Speaker 1: is for us to navigate talking about Luke publicly, it's
Speaker 1: still hard for us to talk about him privately and
Speaker 1: figure out how to do it. And because it's still
Speaker 1: doesn't feel real, right mm hmm. Yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: this is honestly the first time I've talked about it
Speaker 1: with a microphone rather than just like to personally and privately.
Speaker 1: But it's just really hard. Yeah, I I I still
Speaker 1: don't accept it in a weird way you don't have to, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's it's seeing this episode, I definitely felt it
Speaker 1: takes you back to the moment and you almost are
Speaker 1: into it and you feel like you don't have to
Speaker 1: accept that he's gone, you know, Yeah, you just get
Speaker 1: to experience it again. Yeah, it's definitely tricky. That's why
Speaker 1: when I said, I, you know, I watched the show
Speaker 1: back and I thought when it was over, I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be over I want to keep
Speaker 1: watching it because I felt that, like, you know, like
Speaker 1: he's right there. Obviously you guys can tell we had
Speaker 1: a lot of love for him, and um, it's a
Speaker 1: hard thing to navigate. I guess none of us ever
Speaker 1: thought you would get to that point where one of
Speaker 1: us would be gone. That's not something you think about
Speaker 1: in life, and until it happens to you. You know,
Speaker 1: your best friends from high school like everything, and then
Speaker 1: it's part of life. It starts to happen. And and
Speaker 1: two you're in that moment and you hear about others,
Speaker 1: you just can't relate until it actually happens to your
Speaker 1: group of best friends, and then you all just feel
Speaker 1: like whoa, Like what what just happened? You just feel
Speaker 1: that emptiness. I know when we did p h nine
Speaker 1: or two, and when we first got together for the
Speaker 1: first promo shoot, remember that moment, Oh my gosh, it
Speaker 1: was heartbreaking where Iron slipped and he said we were
Speaker 1: waiting for all of us and we were we count.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like when you have kids and you
Speaker 1: count your kids and there's there's always eight of us
Speaker 1: and you count. And I turned around and said, where's Luke?
Speaker 1: And then I just saw him catch himself and he
Speaker 1: turned away and I could just see his heartbreaking and
Speaker 1: they started to cry. And it was what we were
Speaker 1: all thinking though, like he was just not there and
Speaker 1: we we didn't feel complete, and we still don't. As
Speaker 1: a fan, we don't either. I didn't want to accept
Speaker 1: it when I heard the news either, So I can
Speaker 1: only imagine how you guys feel. Yeah, I'm sure that
Speaker 1: you know. As hard as it was for us, it
Speaker 1: was equally hard for a lot of people out there,
Speaker 1: especially his beautiful kids and just really unfortunate and all
Speaker 1: the fans just to see how much it impacted people
Speaker 1: on such a that part felt good because he had
Speaker 1: such an impact on the world. He really did, and
Speaker 1: and although they never got to see the behind the
Speaker 1: scenes the view into him that they did see, they
Speaker 1: nailed it like he was just as special as they
Speaker 1: all thought he was or wanted him to be even
Speaker 1: more so. M hm. So let's talk about Dylan McKay's
Speaker 1: first episode. Yeah, he was. He originally just supposed to
Speaker 1: be in like the first few episodes. Was he casted
Speaker 1: to be a regular or I think not. I think
Speaker 1: in the beginning it was just a one off, right
Speaker 1: or maybe a few episodes, but he wasn't gonna be
Speaker 1: I don't remember, are you sure? Yeah? I think that.
Speaker 1: I remember I was told that Fox wasn't like they
Speaker 1: weren't sold on his on the fictional character of Luke
Speaker 1: or of of him at first. Right, Well, I know that.
Speaker 1: And this is again just from my memory of the
Speaker 1: behind the scenes from my dad's perspective, So it's might
Speaker 1: not have been how it went down, but from my
Speaker 1: memory there they definitely felt like there was a lack
Speaker 1: of the bad boy. They wanted that, you know, squeaky clean,
Speaker 1: Brandon Walsh, you know, Jock, Steve Sanders, David Silver was
Speaker 1: the young kid. Yeah, like there was you know, where's
Speaker 1: like the hunky, mysterious bad boy. Um. So I remember
Speaker 1: from my memory they they were testing people, so that
Speaker 1: makes me think it was more than just a few episodes.
Speaker 1: And I remember my dad on a phone call and
Speaker 1: he was really really upset, and of course I was
Speaker 1: listening trying to, you know, see what was going on,
Speaker 1: and they said, we want to look at other people,
Speaker 1: and he was like, this kid like Luke Perry, he's
Speaker 1: it this issue who I want to cast as Dylan
Speaker 1: mackay and they weren't sold and um, he said, he's
Speaker 1: coming into tests for you. And they said, well, you
Speaker 1: can't bring one person and into test. Now. When you
Speaker 1: come in and tested a network, they always have choices
Speaker 1: because you have to give them choices A, B and
Speaker 1: C and you have to be committed that whoever they choose,
Speaker 1: you're okay with casting. Um. And he said, I'm bringing
Speaker 1: one guy in and that's it because he's the guy.
Speaker 1: And they said, we're not comfortable with that. And I
Speaker 1: remember my dad and this is so my dad's personality.
Speaker 1: He said, well, if you won't cast him, then I
Speaker 1: will and I'll pay for him myself. Wow. And and
Speaker 1: that was it. I mean, I wish we had that power.
Speaker 1: I mean, just in the first episode alone, when you
Speaker 1: meet Dylan McKay, you, yeah, he's the bad boy. He's gorgeous.
Speaker 1: I mean, the camera loves him, but then you feel
Speaker 1: for him because you see that disconnect that he has
Speaker 1: from his parents, and then you like you have it's
Speaker 1: you have the full three sixty of emotions when it
Speaker 1: comes to this character. I couldn't imagine, really, yea of
Speaker 1: the earth human being like you, that character you saw
Speaker 1: a lot of who Luke Perry really was you know
Speaker 1: a lot of what They were very similar in their
Speaker 1: makeups and because with Luke, you just you loved him
Speaker 1: the minute you met him, and you were just engaged
Speaker 1: by his you know, charisma. But it was not like
Speaker 1: over the top. It was just like this really calm,
Speaker 1: easy vibe that he would get off to everyone. And
Speaker 1: I think that Dylan did that too, and that's why
Speaker 1: America and the world fell in love with him. He
Speaker 1: was he made everyone he talked to feel special, but
Speaker 1: it was genuine. He's the only one out of all
Speaker 1: of you guys that I got to meet. Yes, your experience,
Speaker 1: So I met him about um, I don't when I
Speaker 1: first started with Ryan, when I took over on the
Speaker 1: More show with him, and he was probably a year
Speaker 1: or two in and he was promoting Riverdale and uh,
Speaker 1: and then he came in and I basically told him
Speaker 1: how he was my first crush and I had his
Speaker 1: posters on my wall and I had his I told
Speaker 1: him I had his Barbie doll and he got a
Speaker 1: little affused, like it was an action figure. It's like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but um no, it was just
Speaker 1: such an honor to meet him and you're right, Like
Speaker 1: he was just as lovely in person. It is sometimes
Speaker 1: you meet famous people and you're like, you have this
Speaker 1: idea in your head of like who they are, and
Speaker 1: then you meet him and you're disappointed or you're let down,
Speaker 1: And it was just not the case with him. Never
Speaker 1: meet your heroes, they say, I know, but he was
Speaker 1: just he was that one you wanted to meet. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: He was so gracious and like giving of his love
Speaker 1: and time to all the fans, like that was one thing.
Speaker 1: Such a hugger, Yeah, he would hug everyone, and he
Speaker 1: just cared so deeply about everyone. Yeah. The only thing
Speaker 1: different about him and Dylan and I think is like
Speaker 1: he was hysterical and never minded, like making himself the
Speaker 1: butt of the joke and just like, yeah, he certainly
Speaker 1: was a character. Do you have a nickname for you? Uh,
Speaker 1: he's the one that you can say, you know, he
Speaker 1: just called me gen Fiber. But I don't know, was
Speaker 1: there ever anything there? You had one? I had one,
Speaker 1: But I feel like he had this cute name for you,
Speaker 1: and I can't remember what it was. He called me Camel.
Speaker 1: Camel is that cute? Are we happy with that nickname?
Speaker 1: It was? It was better than Brian. Brian used to
Speaker 1: call me Lamb, Chops and Chewbacca. So why do you
Speaker 1: have all these names so extreame, I know, and when
Speaker 1: you're a six year old girl, like, none of those
Speaker 1: names make me feel good. And Brian used to call
Speaker 1: me Lamb chomps because he said I had so much
Speaker 1: fur right here. Yeah again, peach fun. But as a teenager,
Speaker 1: that's like, like, you don't want a boy to tell
Speaker 1: you that this what's happened. This is stuff that you
Speaker 1: never get over. When we did, I made a point
Speaker 1: of telling he didn't even He was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: And I was like, He's like, that was just like
Speaker 1: it was cute, and I was like, it scarred me
Speaker 1: so bad. Yes, um, probably because I liked yeah, but
Speaker 1: scarred me so bad that I now when I did
Speaker 1: Beach Night, I was like, I want to feel my face.
Speaker 1: I was like, my whole face has been threaded. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't let it go, but that Chewbacca, he would go.
Speaker 1: You know, he did the same thing to me. He
Speaker 1: told me, I'll never forget. I was wearing a sleeveless
Speaker 1: shirt and he but this is one of the two
Speaker 1: times I was wearing a sleeveless shirt and he was
Speaker 1: standing behind me and he said, you know, you can
Speaker 1: always tell a woman's age by her elbows. And I
Speaker 1: was like, my elbows. He's looking at my elbows, And
Speaker 1: from that day forward, I have a king phobia of
Speaker 1: my wrinkly elbows. Thank you, right, Gosh, I think I've
Speaker 1: told him that, but I also did. We had that
Speaker 1: moment like listen what you did to us. And the
Speaker 1: time when I was lactating because I just had a baby.
Speaker 1: I was the only one of the whole cast that
Speaker 1: had a baby, and I was I was trying to
Speaker 1: be like, you know, nineteen and cute in an orange
Speaker 1: cropped stretchy tank top and at the beach club, but
Speaker 1: I was lactating and it was maybe it wasn't likely
Speaker 1: when my booze were just sweating. I don't remember, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's really embarrassing, like under the boob
Speaker 1: wetness situation during our scene, during the scene, and he
Speaker 1: said something in the scene did yeah, but you could
Speaker 1: not notice it. It was like so we grew up
Speaker 1: together like no filter, like we can say anything. Can
Speaker 1: I go back to the nice name that Luke gave me? Yes, yes.
Speaker 1: So he told me, um that called me camel, and
Speaker 1: I was so offended and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is so bad. Like Luke
Speaker 1: Perry just called me camel and he's like, no, it's
Speaker 1: because camels have the longest, most beautiful eyes and eyelashes,
Speaker 1: and that's you. So I love that name to this day.
Speaker 1: He loved you so much. I can't remember him just
Speaker 1: gushing about your camel eyes. Ah. He was a true,
Speaker 1: true in every sense, big brother. I mean, that's one
Speaker 1: of the big protector came with his character and his
Speaker 1: it Kelly and Brenda or Kelly and Brandon or is
Speaker 1: it Kelly and Dylan? Oh Man, tell us what you
Speaker 1: guys think because we flip flop. Yeah, I do, I go,
Speaker 1: I go back and forth. Is that bad? Can't I
Speaker 1: have both? You know what if I can't just choose me,
Speaker 1: I'm going to choose both. Well, thank you. How about
Speaker 1: his overalls, He was definitely sporting those overalls with the
Speaker 1: one flappy down only one side up. Was that a
Speaker 1: nineties and they're like rolled up at the bottom, so
Speaker 1: very crisscross. But that was the style, that's what it
Speaker 1: wasn't the early nineties. I was just riveted every time
Speaker 1: he was on camera. I don't know if that was
Speaker 1: because I was like a fan girl and excited it
Speaker 1: for Dylan, or if I was because of missing him
Speaker 1: or what it was, but it was like I loved it.
Speaker 1: I loved watching every second of it. You know, you
Speaker 1: guys were talking about Brian earlier, did you notice that
Speaker 1: his voice hadn't changed yet? His little pretty pupis voice
Speaker 1: right got to get defensive, like what are you guys
Speaker 1: saying like he's fine? I had two questions about that,
Speaker 1: the voice and then the hair situation. On the at
Speaker 1: of hair, there was a lot of hair and it
Speaker 1: was kind of really glued into place and it never moved.
Speaker 1: Even when his head moved, his hair didn't move. But
Speaker 1: I liked it. It looked cool, but it was a
Speaker 1: mystery to me. Watching the show, I was just like, Wow,
Speaker 1: that's some hair. There's a lot of takeaways. I mean,
Speaker 1: even just right in they started giving they started talking.
Speaker 1: I mean, the valley always gets a bad rap, like
Speaker 1: no matter what you know, I think, Betty Sarah says
Speaker 1: like I live in the valley, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: what I don't understand that there's always been a big
Speaker 1: l a valley sort of like feud, right if you
Speaker 1: live in the valley or not, you have to have
Speaker 1: like two sides, right, I guess. So it's so ridiculous
Speaker 1: because the valley is super cool, super chic. Now we're not.
Speaker 1: We all live there. I moved to the valley, having
Speaker 1: left in thirteen years though San Fernando Valley that you know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't chic then. It wasn't Beverly Hills, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Now it's like there's just as much hates when I
Speaker 1: mentioned this, but Beverly Hills Housewives one of my guilty pleasures. Um,
Speaker 1: they all live in the valley. They all live in Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wonder why I don't like that show. Okay, Um,
Speaker 1: Betty was from the valley. Yep. Wait, but do you
Speaker 1: know what I really liked from the from the from
Speaker 1: the first I guess the first real episode of the series,
Speaker 1: Um was Andrea. Did you notice that you? Wait? You
Speaker 1: just said Herron. I know, I was like, do we
Speaker 1: It was Andrea in the first episode. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: in the first episode you were allowed to say Andrea
Speaker 1: and she didn't change it to Andrea until a little later.
Speaker 1: So but it was scenes that she didn't wasn't in
Speaker 1: so she couldn't correct. I've gotten that information from a
Speaker 1: very valuable friend. So given your voice tone, we're gonna
Speaker 1: believe you. Know. Um. But she was the cutest thing
Speaker 1: to me. I always thought, I want to be Andrea.
Speaker 1: She's so cute and so smart and so spunky, and
Speaker 1: I loved her whole thing. It's pretty badass that as
Speaker 1: a I'm assuming you guys are sophomores and she's running
Speaker 1: the newspaper for high school, like, yeah, she's like working
Speaker 1: in New York Times in there. I love it. She's
Speaker 1: really cool character. And then we kind of wanted her
Speaker 1: and Brandon to be a couple. Hey was that going on?
Speaker 1: Like right out of the gate in the in the
Speaker 1: newspaper office? Was she vibe and him? And did you
Speaker 1: get mad at it? I always felt like it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it was jealous right away of
Speaker 1: Marianne Moore. You know, like right, what if things had
Speaker 1: gone a different way? What if Brandon and Andrea ended
Speaker 1: up together? Like could could that have been something cute? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I feel like why everyone wanted that? So why didn't
Speaker 1: it happen? I love that like the hot popular boy
Speaker 1: somewhere deep down wanted the studious, smart nerd. So what
Speaker 1: are some of your guys memories from filming that episode?
Speaker 1: Absolutely nothing, No, I remember being You've got to remember
Speaker 1: this when we were like on the high school squad.
Speaker 1: We filmed those um West Bever High scenes at Torrance
Speaker 1: High School, and I remember being walking on that quad
Speaker 1: with you and Shannon and Brandon for that one scene,
Speaker 1: and all the students from the real actual school were there.
Speaker 1: They were watching. That was my question between this school
Speaker 1: in session during the time you guys were filming, was scary.
Speaker 1: It was scary. I was terrified because it was like people,
Speaker 1: my peers, people in my age like watching and I
Speaker 1: didn't high school. Yeah, that's so fascinating. Yeah, so we
Speaker 1: because their their bells would ring and they'd come on
Speaker 1: out and we'd be in the middle of a take
Speaker 1: and we'd have to wait for them to go back in.
Speaker 1: That's when Tory has her first line of this episode.
Speaker 1: Do you remember what that was? Tory? You, Brenda, your
Speaker 1: brother is dope? Is that right? That was pretty good?
Speaker 1: I think it is. Your brother is so dope. But yeah, Brenda,
Speaker 1: your brother is so dope. So cute, so cute, what
Speaker 1: my real nose? Yeah? I love that vest. You were
Speaker 1: wearing two with the stars and stripes situation, like very patriotic.
Speaker 1: That was good. Yeah. Did you think that the clothes
Speaker 1: were better in the second episode than they were in
Speaker 1: the pilot? Like, And I think that that's because there
Speaker 1: was a change in the costume designer. The costume designer
Speaker 1: from the pilot was different from the first episode, I think,
Speaker 1: and they just had a different like interpretation of the
Speaker 1: show and they wanted I think she kind of grounded
Speaker 1: it more and made it a little more believable and
Speaker 1: but still just enough like bling for Beverly Hills. The
Speaker 1: other one was a little clueless esque in like yeah,
Speaker 1: and and the other made the characters to trend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like if they would that you could be these characters.
Speaker 1: They were so real. I like that about the wardrobe.
Speaker 1: I mean we started to take on a life of
Speaker 1: their own and you could be like who, like who
Speaker 1: are you? Are you a Kelly? Or you a Brenda?
Speaker 1: Are you Andrea? Are you a Donna? Yeah? It's a
Speaker 1: huge personalities and fashion and it and the Yeah, the
Speaker 1: wardrobe really sort of picked it the character very clearly
Speaker 1: into the viewer's mind, like this is what this person wears,
Speaker 1: and this is how they you know, you identify with them.
Speaker 1: So I thought that that was a really key part
Speaker 1: of it, you know what. I thought that in those
Speaker 1: quad scenes, Um, Steve Iron was like Steve was so
Speaker 1: mean to Kelly, what a jerk? Like Hello, It's because
Speaker 1: he was in love with her. Hello, but he was
Speaker 1: like he looks at her ass and he goes liposuction
Speaker 1: maybe or so mean um by the And then in turn,
Speaker 1: it makes Kelly's character, it makes car Kelly's character moody
Speaker 1: and like you're you know, you're always on edge, yeah,
Speaker 1: because you're always being like judged and picked on and
Speaker 1: called out. Like yeah, they couldn't tell you what they
Speaker 1: wanted to do with with those two, with Steve and Kelly,
Speaker 1: that relationship they it was kind of like who is
Speaker 1: Steve because he was supposed to be like the jerky jock, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: and he started out that way for sure, And my
Speaker 1: character started out very one dimensional, like really Hill's bitch girl.
Speaker 1: And I think even in this episode, like for most
Speaker 1: of the first season, they were still trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what our characters really you guys, go to the
Speaker 1: beach and then you leave Brenda. Again, who does that
Speaker 1: leave their friend at the beach. She I don't think
Speaker 1: Kelly was very nice, but you hit you hit the
Speaker 1: nail on the head when you were describing Dylan and
Speaker 1: saying it very much was Luke. They definitely were super
Speaker 1: smart in picking up the actors play the characters really
Speaker 1: right away and started viewing the characters away from what
Speaker 1: how they were originally one dimensional and depicted into kind
Speaker 1: of branching out of being their own person. And so
Speaker 1: Kelly became more Jenny's more vulnerable. Yeah, and iron I'm
Speaker 1: Steve became more iron like funny and charismatic, especially down
Speaker 1: the road, like I mean sees many when your mom
Speaker 1: has baby and then you become like an older sister
Speaker 1: that kind of like that. I like babies. Clearly maternal
Speaker 1: instincts really kicked in. Was that little sister was born? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I think that that Um, Yeah, I think that
Speaker 1: Steve was just real, real mean to Kelly. And I
Speaker 1: don't know, I thought that the whole um that's the
Speaker 1: whole beach party was weird. The way Kelly work white
Speaker 1: cowboy boots to the beach part. I loved that, but
Speaker 1: what it looks on beach party? Why weren't Why wasn't
Speaker 1: there one cared? Oh, I think it must have been
Speaker 1: cold that day when nobody wanted to Well, it wasn't
Speaker 1: the summer episodes yet maybe they went to the beach
Speaker 1: because it's like everyone goes yeah those but you literally,
Speaker 1: I think you were the first person to really create
Speaker 1: the mom Jean, which is totally in right now and
Speaker 1: doesn't even mean mom, but like that high waisted Jean,
Speaker 1: I think you created that. Look, do you think that's
Speaker 1: a pretty big statement. I don't know if I want
Speaker 1: to be responsible for that. What do you mean our
Speaker 1: kids wear that now and you they have you to
Speaker 1: thank for it. Yeah, so I hear an icon Jenny Garden,
Speaker 1: deal with it? Okay? Thanks? Where was that beach? Was
Speaker 1: that Malibu? Pacific? Pali Stades? Do you guys remember you
Speaker 1: feel like it's upire? Yeah, it was Santa Monica, like
Speaker 1: borderline Malibu right near sunset or those fun shoots when
Speaker 1: you guys got when you got to go to different
Speaker 1: parts of l A. Always whenever they let us out
Speaker 1: of the sound stage, we were like such. She is
Speaker 1: such a different memory of the sound stage than I do.
Speaker 1: You always say we were like trapped. It was like
Speaker 1: it was like a scary rape hotel. I hated it.
Speaker 1: There rap hotel. Wrong with you? I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I have very like it just represents some really weird
Speaker 1: vibes for me. I don't know. God, I loved it.
Speaker 1: I loved when we were on set, we're talking about
Speaker 1: our sound stages. These were the this is are we
Speaker 1: actually was the Starhouse. It was a warehouse in Van Eys, California,
Speaker 1: which is really far from Beverly Hills. And it's in
Speaker 1: this like industrial by the Amtrak station. It would not
Speaker 1: be grownier, and uh, that's where we shot. That's where
Speaker 1: we started. You just said growtier. Is that a word?
Speaker 1: I mean, I get like in the eighties, like grow
Speaker 1: even in the Max. Totally, yeah, totally, she's talking about Valley.
Speaker 1: She just totally went back like that was a throwback
Speaker 1: the Valley Girl. It was super growsy. Anyway, we we
Speaker 1: filmed there for the first This was the first episode
Speaker 1: that was some of those sets, like the interior Walsh
Speaker 1: House was on that in in that warehouse, and we
Speaker 1: just started filming more and more at the warehouse and
Speaker 1: less and less they would let us out on location
Speaker 1: and I just remember being like, when are we going
Speaker 1: out again? I gotta get out of here. Wow, did
Speaker 1: they have lock on your dressing room? That was the problem.
Speaker 1: They only let you off your scenes. They had me
Speaker 1: tied up with my straight jacket chains at it walls
Speaker 1: is there was the one of the interior was on
Speaker 1: the set. But was the Walsh House an actual house? Yes?
Speaker 1: Where is it? You guys noticed right? It was different house.
Speaker 1: It is for the rest of the series, but it
Speaker 1: became Costa Walsh. So a fun fact, apparently it was
Speaker 1: a hundred and five degrees on the day the scene
Speaker 1: that the Mailman was filmed. It was supposed to be
Speaker 1: like Minnesota, but really it was just like soap SuDS,
Speaker 1: a mixture of soap SuDS. And that was And then
Speaker 1: they put the address and I actually googled the address.
Speaker 1: It was like three doesn't go anywhere. It says that
Speaker 1: it's in Beverly Hills. But when you do like Google maps,
Speaker 1: it's not the house. Wait do you think people everywhere
Speaker 1: we're getting like fan mail at that address. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not an actually, don't think it is. But then
Speaker 1: when I when I looked on Google, there's fans that
Speaker 1: have taken pictures in front of the Walsh House. I
Speaker 1: just don't know where that is. I don't know, like
Speaker 1: what the act, you know, where is it? It's in Altadena? What? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And so is Luke's house. Still his house was so cool.
Speaker 1: We filmed there a lot, and actually the people that
Speaker 1: own that house have like embraced it and they let
Speaker 1: people like come in the backyard and just look around
Speaker 1: like they it's like a a little museum out there,
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills, an Antonio Museum. There were a lot of
Speaker 1: different things about the this episode though than the pilot.
Speaker 1: So it was interesting to see the way a show.
Speaker 1: We'll shoot a pilot and you know, sell a show
Speaker 1: based on that pilot, and then from the time they
Speaker 1: stop production on the pilot to the time they start
Speaker 1: production on the first episode, so much creatively happens with
Speaker 1: the studio and with the writers and with the producers
Speaker 1: and with the director, like everything, there's so much that
Speaker 1: happens that the sort of so many things change, is
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say, from the pilot to the
Speaker 1: first episode. And that's interesting because you know, they're really
Speaker 1: getting a lot more input from the studio and from
Speaker 1: the network about where they want the show to go
Speaker 1: and how do we get from here to there. So
Speaker 1: if there are a lot more kind of cooks in
Speaker 1: the kitchen after you sell a pilot, and that you
Speaker 1: had alcoholism a drowning and Brandon's saving a life going
Speaker 1: to the hospital, that's a lot for what it really is.
Speaker 1: I was telling Jen I was shocked in the this episode.
Speaker 1: In the opening scene, Brandon has his dream and he
Speaker 1: has his shirt off. And we remember like Luke always
Speaker 1: had his shirt off, but like Brandon never had his
Speaker 1: shirt off. He was always like in his peach pit
Speaker 1: or and I think that's like the mean time, even
Speaker 1: at the beach club, I don't remember him ever having
Speaker 1: a shirt off. And we actually watched it together and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, Jason has a shirt off.
Speaker 1: Brandon has a shirt off. Big did you get excited?
Speaker 1: I told you he's so lookable. He said, he's he's
Speaker 1: very lookable. I know. Here, okay, so okay, here's what happened.
Speaker 1: I said, oh my god, he's so hunky. And you go,
Speaker 1: Jason's hunky. I said, He's not hunky, he's just like
Speaker 1: he's just really like you want to look at him.
Speaker 1: He's really lookable. He's lookable. God, he's just so damn lookable.
Speaker 1: That guy not to be mistaken with lickable. Wow, did
Speaker 1: you ever go there with him? I think she's asking you, Tori. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not asking Tori. Did I ever lick him? I
Speaker 1: don't recall a time when I licked him? What used
Speaker 1: to lick? A lot? I only licked when I was
Speaker 1: Oh my god, used to be a liquor. I forgot
Speaker 1: about that, like talking about like a dog. What is this?
Speaker 1: Why weird would you do that? Yes? I just had
Speaker 1: a flashback from Margi age years and she used to
Speaker 1: lick It's true that it was like a flirty liquor.
Speaker 1: Jason's likable. And you said it, You said he's lickable,
Speaker 1: which is why I had to ask, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: you probably licked him. I'm going to ask him if
Speaker 1: you licked him. Ever. I'm sure he'll say it. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, she's doing that. Thinks this again? I'm fidgeting. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what, you guys. I have been friends with
Speaker 1: this woman in my whole life, and I know everyone
Speaker 1: she's had a crush on, even liked a little bit
Speaker 1: and Jason like they were always friends, but never anything
Speaker 1: and everything we have talked about him so far, She
Speaker 1: gets fidgety. You're messing me up now, is my bfs?
Speaker 1: That is hilarious. I would never know this about myself
Speaker 1: unless you just pointed it out. You're doing it again.
Speaker 1: We're talking about Jason and I'm uncomfortable. Can you stop
Speaker 1: talking about me? Year old girl? Right now? What is
Speaker 1: that telling you? You're like, I'm a year younger? Excuse me, doctor?
Speaker 1: What's my prognosis? Then? I have a deep rooted, hidden
Speaker 1: desire to lick Jason priestly. Apparently, apparently let's let's simmer
Speaker 1: on that. We'll take a break and maybe come back
Speaker 1: with that or maybe come back with the nineties fashion
Speaker 1: one or the other. Yeah, So apparently Brandon's car had
Speaker 1: a name and we were mistaken, but mean chance what
Speaker 1: we think it was, I don't remember, but we didn't
Speaker 1: get it right. Apparently because we've had some emails, we've
Speaker 1: had some communication, and apparently it's named Mondale for a
Speaker 1: very good reason. Why don't you tell them what the
Speaker 1: reason is? Me? Okay, so we totally had to look
Speaker 1: this up. So it is named after I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: it wrong. Walter Mondale, who is from Minnesota and there
Speaker 1: in the Minnesota Twins. It's odd they would bring politics
Speaker 1: into it, though, I'm surprised. Well, Brandon was very political,
Speaker 1: and that's right, I guess so for the newspaper the
Speaker 1: semi year political. Now I didn't I don't know who
Speaker 1: da What you said, mon Dale is I'm not good
Speaker 1: with politics or American history pre Nino. I would write
Speaker 1: like the horoscopes. I've said it before and I'll say
Speaker 1: it again. I am not book smart, I'm street smart.
Speaker 1: Andrea or Andrea? When did the name change? Well, according
Speaker 1: to gab Yea, it was Andrea from the get go. Well,
Speaker 1: she said that she knew do you remember this story?
Speaker 1: She was just telling it last summer when we did
Speaker 1: be h that she did. She know Darren Star and
Speaker 1: they knew someone in common that always, like would correct
Speaker 1: people and would say, no, it's not Andrea, it's Andrea.
Speaker 1: So when she was leaving for the audition, she actually
Speaker 1: brought that into it, and she thought that they liked
Speaker 1: that little court and so it became part of the show.
Speaker 1: But we come to find out that in the pilot
Speaker 1: she's Andrea and then moving forward, she's Andrea. And don't
Speaker 1: even get you guys started on Iron Zering. You don't don't,
Speaker 1: don't please say it. Don't say his name wrong. No,
Speaker 1: his name is Iron, not Ian. It's ruined me because
Speaker 1: I look at the name, I A N and I
Speaker 1: say Iron. No matter what. There's an artist right now
Speaker 1: that we that we talk about on Kiss Ian Dior.
Speaker 1: And I can't tell you how many times I've called
Speaker 1: him Ian Door Lives. Nobody ever said Iron before Iron
Speaker 1: zer Ring. Now everyone now, you can't not say Iron right,
Speaker 1: And it was a thing. He would take it. It
Speaker 1: was personal. No, so much of the last we had
Speaker 1: uh Maxwell Caulfield on the show and he said he
Speaker 1: was talking about Iron and he said Ian on the
Speaker 1: air and I was like, wait, it's Iron, but I
Speaker 1: don't think he heard me. And I was glad you
Speaker 1: said something because inside my heart dropped programs Sweat, break,
Speaker 1: break Free, get out as quick as you can run No,
Speaker 1: because he was you know is He always would corupt
Speaker 1: and that was fine for him, but I always got
Speaker 1: so uncomfortable. It was so hard. As his friends to
Speaker 1: this day, if we're in a group and someone calls
Speaker 1: him Ian We're all like shock therapy or something, and
Speaker 1: then I just mounted, I don't know, so true. We
Speaker 1: just want people to get it right. We just want
Speaker 1: him to be we love him. There you go, there's
Speaker 1: your eye in lesson anything else that you guys want
Speaker 1: to touch on from this episode, because one of the
Speaker 1: takeaways that just kind of like was a throwback for
Speaker 1: me was seeing the Walsh's house and in their kitchen
Speaker 1: their telephone and the cord on the telephone being fifty
Speaker 1: ft long, and that was just so how life was
Speaker 1: back in the early nineties. Everyone had that kitchen phone
Speaker 1: house line, like it doesn't exist, that doesn't date us
Speaker 1: at all. Like like that remember that springy chord, Like
Speaker 1: you would stretch it as far as you could. You
Speaker 1: could go into another room and close the door. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now we twirl our hair. You have to get that.
Speaker 1: When we talk about Jason Priestley, No, I feel like
Speaker 1: that phone. I I that was the new style phone.
Speaker 1: But you know because he didn't have that one before
Speaker 1: we clamp it down on the thing and you wrote
Speaker 1: that was from like the four that was right before that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so this phone was super cool. It was all like
Speaker 1: on one thing and handheld. At the time, there was
Speaker 1: still cordless phones like they existed because you guys had
Speaker 1: him I think, like Kelly Taylor's bedroom had a cordless phone,
Speaker 1: or Kelly Kelly had a phone inner car. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, the kitchen phone always had a chord
Speaker 1: and it was always a hundred feet long like in
Speaker 1: every family's house. You remember, it had a cord as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where did that go? Where the cord go? That was?
Speaker 1: Did it go into the engine? Like how does that?
Speaker 1: I don't understand these things fake because I had one too.
Speaker 1: But you know, but did you have the brick phone
Speaker 1: that was like it was like holding a brick up
Speaker 1: to your face with a giant antenna sticking out of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we all had those for the days. Man. Well it
Speaker 1: was Beverly Hills. It was given the audience just to
Speaker 1: taste of luxury that the rest of America I guess
Speaker 1: didn't get to experience. You know, we can we talk
Speaker 1: about how we were talking earlier, how Shannon's hair was
Speaker 1: drastically different from the pilot to the second episode, first episode.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, she got she got bangs, bangs, and
Speaker 1: her hair was darker. I think darker and the almost black.
Speaker 1: Everyone else's hair kind of stayed the same. Oh no,
Speaker 1: Jason got rid of the mullet. Brandon didn't have a
Speaker 1: mullet in in this episode. Oh was it different? I
Speaker 1: don't know looking at his eyes. Their relationship Brandon and
Speaker 1: Brenda is just it was just so pure and lovely.
Speaker 1: As a twin mom myself of boy girl twins, I
Speaker 1: only hope that they can have this fictional relationship Brandon
Speaker 1: and Brenda did, let's hope. Do you think Brenda and
Speaker 1: Brandon ever played doctor? Why are you gonna? Where are
Speaker 1: you going with? Sorry that kids do it? No, they
Speaker 1: do it. Honestly, It's not like a creepy thing. But
Speaker 1: what are you getting at? I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: But in b h nine, we had a scene that
Speaker 1: was prompted because for years it was all over the
Speaker 1: internet that they the fans always thought there was a
Speaker 1: little bit of sexual chemistry between and when did look
Speaker 1: it up? Look it up? Oh god, no, don't tell
Speaker 1: me things like this is so gross. I was not
Speaker 1: an agreement. I feel like I physically scarred Sisney, just now,
Speaker 1: are you? My worry is when they become teenagers and
Speaker 1: I like, they have their friends over and then like
Speaker 1: I have to be like on the lookout because there's
Speaker 1: gonna be teenage hormones in the same age. Oh, this
Speaker 1: is all fictional, don't worry. I'm I'm saying um so
Speaker 1: much so that in b H nine O two there
Speaker 1: is a dream sequence that Shannon has about her as
Speaker 1: Brenda and Brandon and they make out what how do
Speaker 1: I not remember this from that always used to write
Speaker 1: in about that question? We gave it to them. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I couldn't watch that those dailies. It was hard. It
Speaker 1: was a complete opposite. I was literally steering this like there.
Speaker 1: It was just so beautiful to see how much they
Speaker 1: loved each other as brother and sister. And I actually
Speaker 1: got teary eyed when she was reading his article and
Speaker 1: how he genuinely wanted her opinion at the end of
Speaker 1: the episode, like read my article for the newspaper. Like, now,
Speaker 1: you guys have made me feel bad that my mind
Speaker 1: went there, So I'm sorry the only one. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying what every fan has expressed, every fire, every pervy
Speaker 1: fan things