1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the new I Heart Radio and Coast to 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Coast Adium Paranormal Podcast Network. Like us on Facebook, tell 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: your friends and shure us with everyone. This is an 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: exciting new network that will feature podcasts on the paranormal, supernatural, 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: and the unexplained. Now, please enjoy the Darker Side of 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: Life with Heidi Hollis. You are listening to the Darker 7 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: Side of Life with me, Heidi Hollis on the I 8 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. 9 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to my show. 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For 28 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: those of us who are involved in the paranormal or 29 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: have an interest in the paranormal, we like to go 30 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: online and take a look and see what's going on 31 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: out there. Right well, I do the same, and especially 32 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: I like to see what people are saying in regards 33 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: to anything being dark or shadowy or what they like 34 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: to call quote sleep paralysis. That one always is interesting. 35 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: So this time I did another dig and a dive 36 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: online and I happened to come across oprah meg dot 37 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: com and there was a segment on their discussing a 38 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: lot of the people who are involved in oprah Meg 39 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: and their own personal paranormal encounters, and I wanted to 40 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: share one of those today. This one is called here 41 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: Be Sleep Demons. It starts over the course of six 42 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: weeks in my junior year of college, not one but 43 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: two strange events occurred in the bedroom of my otherwise 44 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: unremarkable on campus apartment. The first was brief but intense. 45 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: I was jolted awake with a feeling of inexplicable terror 46 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: and dread that I'd never felt before, throwing off my covers. 47 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: Something compelled me to jump out of bed and open 48 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: my door. My roommate across the hall yanked open her 49 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: door at the exact same second, wide eyed and looking 50 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: as scared as I was. Did you feel that, she 51 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: asked me, still catching her breath. Yes, I said. We 52 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: adjorned to the kitchen for a calm down snack. Whatever 53 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: woke us up didn't affect anyone else who was home, 54 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: including my boyfriend at the time, who was still snoozing 55 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: in my bed. Not a month later, I took a 56 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: nap after an early morning class. I woke up with 57 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: the sun in my room and checked the alarm clock 58 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: on my nightstand. It was around nine forty five a m. 59 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: That's when I saw it or her. An opaque form 60 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: was sitting at the foot of my bed, so white 61 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: it looked nearly lit from within, with skinny limbs, a 62 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: flat chest, and hair that whisked around its head like 63 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: Ostrich feathers. I was more fascinated than afraid until I 64 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: tried to sit up and realized that I couldn't. As 65 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: if sensing my trouble, it started leaning towards me, whereupon 66 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: I officially freaked out. I squinched my eyes together for 67 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: one second, and when I opened them, I was alone 68 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: again and free to move. Yes, Google would later inform 69 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: me that this was sleep paralysis, but it looked and 70 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: felt so real. This is by Samantha Vicenti, a senior 71 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: writer for OBRAMEG sleep paralysis. It always surprises me what 72 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: gets categorized as just being a simple case of sleep paralysis. 73 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: This one was quite different, sleep paralysis that notices your 74 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: struggle and leans into look with wispy white hair. Why 75 00:05:55,720 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: isn't the possibility that when we're sleeping we're a will 76 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: to peek into the other world and bleed through is 77 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: a lot easier to see when we're just coming out 78 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: of that other world. Or perhaps it was just sitting there. 79 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: Perhaps it bled through and was just sitting there and 80 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: it wasn't us being able to see any clearer, just 81 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: that that presence was just stronger. There's so many different 82 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: situations and scenarios that could be going on here versus 83 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: it all just being explained scientifically. If that is scientifically speaking, 84 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: a Google search explained it all away. I remember back 85 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: in the day when any one of us would experience 86 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: anything out of the ordinary, we had to go outside 87 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: and find others, and we had to find a way 88 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: to relate dig for those answers. A quick search and 89 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: a definition pops up and people feel rest assured. That 90 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: must be all it was. But was it? How would 91 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: we know? Sometimes looking within it is the best and 92 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: only way to figure things out when we come across 93 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: more than just a definition, when we come across actual 94 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: individuals where notes can be compared about what's going on. 95 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: Not everything fits so neat and tidy. This next story 96 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: I came across came from thought catalog dot com and 97 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: this one is titled Demon in the Dark, and it 98 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: starts off my family traveled to the south of France 99 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: to stay in a cottage owned by someone my dad 100 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: worked with. The owners visited occasionally, but that summer it 101 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: was free and we had ten days booked in there. 102 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: After a long two days on the road, we drove 103 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: down on a steep driveway towards a secluded mill cottage 104 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: that had a water wheel that sat static alongside the 105 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: stone house. There was a deep cellar with stone stairs 106 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: down under the wheel next to the house, and a 107 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: small river circled the place. We went into the house 108 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: and chose rooms. The house was draft and cold from 109 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: lack of use. We settled in and turned all of 110 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: the heating on, yet the house remained cold and felt damp. 111 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: The first night, we set a fire in the living 112 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: room and listened to a couple of audio books before 113 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 1: my sister and I went to sleep. My parents stayed 114 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: up a little longer and then went to bed. Around midnight, 115 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: they both woke up at exactly the same time and 116 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: the door to their bedroom was opening slowly. At first, 117 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: they thought it was my sister until they saw a large, 118 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: dark silhouette of a man framed in the doorway. He 119 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: was standing stock still, just looking in their direction, as 120 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: if appraising them. After a short period, the shape turned 121 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: and started to move as if satisfied, and disappeared. They 122 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: looked at each other but didn't speak, and both went 123 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: back to sleep. The next morning, the house felt warm 124 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: and dry, and sunlight was back through the windows, as 125 00:09:53,240 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: if something had lifted and accepted them. They I spoke 126 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: the next day and both agreed that although they were skeptics, 127 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: it could not have been anything other than something supernatural 128 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: in that doorway, deciding their worth. Dave, Now, what's interesting 129 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: to me is that they described this man that was 130 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: a dark silhouette sizing them up, that seemed to create 131 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: a cold chill in the air, just zapping all of 132 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: the energy from the air that they were in. To me, 133 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: this sounds very typical of the hat man. He doesn't 134 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: always wear a hat. They didn't describe if he had 135 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: a hat on or not, but he doesn't always wear one. 136 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: But that presence speaks volumes. And for anyone who would think, 137 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 1: how would you know that was something so evil? You 138 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: remember the title demon in the dark? Sounds pretty distinctive. 139 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: Why would they attribute a black silhouette of a man 140 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: in the doorway as being a demon? Quite suspicious? And 141 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: then for it to leave, and suddenly the whole air 142 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: in the place feels better, It's warm, They felt accepted. 143 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the feeling. I think perhaps 144 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: because it warmed up, and because he left, perhaps things 145 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: were better and probably met some approval. Perhaps they thought 146 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: it was a former tenant that occupied that space, But 147 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: who's to know. One thing is I'm glad that it 148 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: did not return. That's not always clear why something happens, 149 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: or hat Man would appear, or why a ghost would 150 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: appear versus hat Man. All people know is to trust 151 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: their senses and whatever it is that they're experiencing and 152 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: and interpret the best that they can. It's not always 153 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: easy coming up. I have a couple of other fascinating stories. 154 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: Stick around. You are listening to the darker side of 155 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: life with me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio 156 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network, and we'll 157 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: be right back. The thoughts and opinions expressed by the 158 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: host do not necessarily reflect those of I Heart Media, 159 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast a U, the employees 160 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: of Premier Networks, or their sponsors and associates. Hey the 161 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast on YouTube channels. It come dot com. 162 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 1: At Paranormal date dot com, you meet the most fantastic people. 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You're listening to the 191 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a M paranormal 192 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: podcast network with the best show is that explore the paranormal, supernatural, 193 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: and the unexplained. You can enjoy all shows on the 194 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you find 195 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: your favorite podcasts. Welcome back. You are listening to the 196 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: Darker side of life with me Heidi Hollis on the 197 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a M Paranormal 198 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: podcast network. Some of the stories that I find online 199 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: are intriguing and get the imagination going for a lot 200 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: of us, and I can't help but to wonder what 201 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: background some of the people have that have experiences and 202 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: and how it affected them personally. Did it change their 203 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: whole reality? Did it put a rift between them and 204 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: loved ones, did they get depressed. Did they absolutely feel isolated? 205 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: A lot of things can happen to a person when 206 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: they're met with something out of the ordinary. And I 207 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: meet these people, I get their stories. I've met them 208 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: across the country, and I've met them online, and some 209 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: of these stories that get posted up on other websites, 210 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: I just wish I could reach out to all of 211 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: them when I see things that directly involve what I 212 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: know to be either shadow people or the Hatman, and 213 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: some of the confusion that is out there in regards 214 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: to these two subjects thanks to a lot of media 215 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: that just got the stories wrong and got the message backwards. 216 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: This next story I came across was also on thought 217 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: catalog dot com. They start off with I have a 218 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 1: few different quote sleep paralysis demons and one sort of 219 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: sleep paralysis guardian angel. The demon ones are the usual 220 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: shadowy figure standing over me or by my bedroom door. 221 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: The worst one was while I was lying on my 222 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,239 Speaker 1: side with my back to the door, it felt like 223 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: someone got into bed behind me under the covers. They 224 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: went and put their arm around my waist. Then it 225 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: felt like they were cuddling into me, and I felt 226 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: cold breath on my neck. It felt like they cuddled 227 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: me for about a half an hour. All this time, 228 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying not to show that I'm panicking because it 229 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: feels like I'm getting cuddled by a skeleton in with claws. 230 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: It was only about the second, maybe third time that 231 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: I had had quote sleep paralysis, so I nearly had 232 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: a heart attack when this thing feels like it's moving 233 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: in closer to kiss me behind the ear. Worst of all, yet, 234 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: it whispered, not yet, you're not ready yet. I'll come 235 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 1: back when you are to me. It sounded disappointed and excited, 236 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: and felt like it was silently telling me. It meant 237 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: that it was coming back when I was about to die. 238 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: It's scared the living crap out of me. Mhm. Then 239 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: my quote sleep paralysis Guardian Angel was a weird experience. 240 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: I've been getting sleep paralysis on and off for about 241 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: eighteen months by this point, so I could usually tell 242 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: straight away when it was happening. At first, I thought 243 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: it was the usual demon thing besides me in the bed. 244 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: But when I looked properly and I realized I could 245 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: clearly see a man kneeling next to my bed smiling 246 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: at me, it wasn't a creepy smile, but more like 247 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: a parent coming in to check on their kid. He 248 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: looked like he was dressed in a nineteen fifty style 249 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: suit and hat. He didn't say anything, although I got 250 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: the sense that he was letting me know everything was 251 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: all right and he'd look after me. Oh gosh. I've 252 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: mentioned how at times I get these folks who feel 253 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: protected somehow by these hat Man encounters. And this person 254 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: is feeling because he's not in the bed, he's not 255 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: trying to cuddle me, but he's in there and he's 256 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: smiling like a reassuring smile. This person knew the thing 257 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: in the bed with her was going to come back 258 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: when she was ready to die. And then this other 259 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: one comes during a quote unquote sleep paralysis moment and 260 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: it's going to look after her. It almost feels like 261 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: part two of whatever took place in the bed prior 262 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: not ready yet, I'll come back when you're ready to die. 263 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: And then there's hat Man monitoring the situation. And the 264 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: problem is, I'm suspicious it was hat Man in the 265 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: bed with her, but he's check again to see when 266 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: she's ready to go. What disturbs me about this story 267 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: and others like. It is that difference that people are 268 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: feeling at times with hat Man, where they put their 269 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: guard down and he gets more comfortable. Sure, cuddling was 270 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: definitely a bad move, that is too comfortable. But then 271 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: to get in their face and give a smile, God forbid. 272 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: If he had shown his teeth, I think they would 273 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: have thought differently because his teeth, when people describe them, 274 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: they are very much like Pennywise from Stephen King's movie It, 275 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: and those are the most horrific jagged teeth. If you've 276 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: never seen them, don't look. But that's usually what his 277 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: smile is. And that to where that confusion comes in 278 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: of something they call the grinning Man, which is hat 279 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: Man smiling. When he smiles, it goes ear to ear 280 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: like that and causes terror like anything you can imagine. 281 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: And he can shape shift as well and become a 282 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: shadow and melt. And I'll tell you I've seen him 283 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: where I was surprised even at my own reaction to him. 284 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: And this is how it went. I was having a 285 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: normal dream, so I thought, having a conversation with a person, 286 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: and hat Man doesn't always have to come physically into 287 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: your space, No, no, no, he'll go into your dreams 288 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: as well, and you know something's not right when he 289 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: shows up. And that's what he did to me. I'm 290 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: having a conversation, oddly enough, in my bedroom with a 291 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: friend and at man stepped in between us, and immediately 292 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: I knew what he was and I just wasn't having it. 293 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: And I took my left hand. I'm so right handed. 294 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: I'm so right handed. I don't do much with the left, 295 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: so this surprised me that I took my left hand like, 296 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: not coordinated, not much effort, and I grabbed his hat 297 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: and I pulled it down over his face and I 298 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: pushed him down to the ground as he went into 299 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: a black puddle, and I said, I don't like you 300 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: and I never will. And he went through the floor 301 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: that way, and then I carried on my conversation. Now 302 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: a lot of people are just like, how would and 303 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: how could you reach up and grab his hat and 304 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: smash it in his face? And I really don't have 305 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: an answer to that. All I know is I didn't 306 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: want to deal with him and he wasn't welcome, and 307 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: I let him know that. But what if I took 308 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: this scenario differently like some of these people with this 309 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: person here feeling like he was a guardian of some 310 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: sort or letting me know everything's okay. What if I 311 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: took it that way, because it was just a silhouette 312 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: of hat man, I personally didn't feel like threatened to 313 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: the point that I was going to die, so much 314 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: so that I took his hat and I smashed it 315 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: in his face and pushed him to the ground. He 316 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: was just there. He wasn't doing anything. Interpretation is everything. 317 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: He wasn't welcomed, he didn't fit in the scenario. And 318 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: I know it was a situation where he was gathering 319 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: information on me and letting it be known because he 320 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: came right between the two of us. Absolutely, no shame. 321 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: We have to be vigilant if we see something as 322 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: out of the ordinary in a dream or not. We 323 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: have to trust our instinct. It's very important, and it 324 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: seems like, you know, we should be able to have 325 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: your dreams and go about your business and not have 326 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: to be concerned about matters of life or death or 327 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: the soul. But this is where they're digging their close in. 328 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: This is how they're getting to know us. This is 329 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: how they're making a stance, and there's a battle going 330 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: on and it seems like it's just can't be, but 331 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: it is. It is. So this person talks about knowing 332 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: this was a sleep paralysis type of situation. That's the 333 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 1: scientific wording for it. But how do we say with 334 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: one sense certainty that this is just something so easy 335 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: to put in a category of being a medical condition. 336 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think that there's a lot 337 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: of wiggle room for interpretation. And again this is my opinion. 338 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: I'm not a medical physician, But why do these things 339 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: categorize as being to sleep paralysis? Have things that could 340 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: step out and look like a man in a suit, 341 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: or shadowy images or clouds or cats, or something that 342 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: looks like its head is directly connected to its shoulders 343 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: and sometimes have glowing red eyes that likes to sit 344 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 1: on your chest, take your breath away and make you 345 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: feel like you're about to die or your soul is 346 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: at risk. How is that possible all over the world. 347 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's in the millions. Can we really guess 348 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: and figure it out? I think it'd be difficult too. 349 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: But there's been studies done and how many people have 350 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: had sleep paralysis? And half the population seems to experience it. 351 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: But what if these are not just so easily explained. 352 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Darker Side of Life with 353 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: meat Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast 354 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: to Coast, a paranormal podcast network. We'll be right back. 355 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. There's more of the Darker side of 356 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: life coming right up. 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Welcome back. 375 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Darker Side of Life with me, 376 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to 377 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Remember to go to my 378 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: main website, which is Heidi Hollis dot com and there 379 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: you will find a lot of different information that may 380 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: be of help and abuse to you if you are 381 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: facing anything that I speak of here on the show. 382 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: And oftentimes I have people who feel utterly challenged when 383 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: they're faced with such evil. They question their faith, they 384 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: question their soul, they question where they stand in life. 385 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: And I hope to have a well rounded approach to 386 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: getting to some answers, resolution and building up people's confidence 387 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: and seeing their full human potential, because that's what is 388 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: really going on. We all are getting challenged. We all 389 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: are involved in what I call a secret war. There 390 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: are things placing their bets on us to not figure 391 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: them out. But I have the download on them, and 392 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: I'm willing to share and that's how we're all going 393 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: to win by sharing and building each other up. Now, 394 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: then getting to some of your emails here, I have 395 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: one here that states, dear Heidi. As a kid, I 396 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: would and could just so happened to guess my cousin's 397 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: friends personal details with accuracy. I even once had an 398 00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 1: encounter with God on a bike path. That's fascinating. I 399 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: would love to get more stories and talking about God 400 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: and angels. I don't always have to just do demons 401 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: on here. I have actually traveled the world reading people, 402 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: and then one day I encountered a demonic entity. A 403 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: preacher's wife asked me to assist with the situation. I 404 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: wanted to say no, but my mouth said sure. Soon 405 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,959 Speaker 1: after beginning, I knew intimate details of this woman being attacked. 406 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: I knew of the events that opened the doors to 407 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: these demons and how many of them. Soon she was 408 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: released from them, and I was stunned. So was this 409 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: prophetic or an exorcism? Twenty years later, I'm an ordained 410 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,479 Speaker 1: minister of God. I am still doing readings and helping 411 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: souls find release from demons. So if I can be 412 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: a blessing, please let me know. Oh, that's kind. I 413 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: love when people have these spontaneous incidences of finding themselves 414 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: face to face with something that they didn't know they 415 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: can handle, and they handled it, and apparently you handled 416 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: it to a point of becoming a profession, which is awesome, 417 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: and I wish more people understood we can rise to 418 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: the occasion, we can take these things on right where 419 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: we're at in life. I remember as a kid wondering 420 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: I'll never be able to pray as well as the 421 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: pastor at the front of the church. They didn't forget anybody, 422 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: They knew how to run their words together. That just 423 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: sounded like a poem. I felt so flawed, And then 424 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: when I would sit and try to pray, I was 425 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: so bored. I'd fall asleep to my own prayers. I'm 426 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: not kidding. That's just how life was for me. And 427 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: luckily I had an intervention myself that led me to 428 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: do something I call picture prayers, and angelic being introduced 429 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: it to me, of all things. And a lot of 430 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: people think I just hover on the topic of demons 431 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: and the devil with hat Man, but no, there's a 432 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: whole other flip side to this world. And I'm telling 433 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: you that flip side is a lot more accessible when 434 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: we tossed this darker side out on its ear. When 435 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: I was able to do that, angelic encounters, even Jesus 436 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: encounters things that I really, honestly would have never thought possible. 437 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: I had too much fear. I didn't want to see 438 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: these things out of the ordinary. And then when I 439 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: got over that fear to be able to take on 440 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: seeing an alien in or something demonic and send them 441 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: on their way, and the good guys came around more often. 442 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: I realized that these dark things block the good stuff. 443 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 1: And Wow, getting a big enough dust pan to toss 444 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: them out on their ear is so worth it. And 445 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm not getting okay. This next email says, dear Heidi, 446 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: please help. Years ago, my then girlfriend saw the hat Man. 447 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: That was over twenty years ago. We are now married 448 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: with kids, and we have moved from Long Island to 449 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: upstate New York. Hat Man has appeared again and is 450 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: wreaking havoc and hell on our lives. I can't tell 451 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: you the amount of bad luck with things that should 452 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 1: never have happened. He's destroying our lives and our relationship. 453 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: His energy is simple all over us, with constant negativity. 454 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 1: We are too educated and hard workers, and I promise 455 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: you that this message is one real. I heard you 456 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: on Coast to Coast AM with George Norri, where you 457 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: spoke of your books, The hat Man and the Secret War. 458 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: That's when I finally knew who he was. Please. He 459 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: is destroying my life. My wife and I are at 460 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: each other's throats. All I feel is his energy all 461 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: around me. I have tried fighting him or telling him 462 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: to please just go. Still nothing goes right for us. 463 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: I feel like our luck has never been good because 464 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: he is there and my wife has seen him multiple times. 465 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: I can't take any more bad things happening. Literally, as 466 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm texting this, my wife messages me that her job 467 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: is in jeopardy because of COVID. I don't beg but 468 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: I'm begging for help. Here's my info below here Thanks Michael. 469 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: I can't tell you, guys how often I get emails 470 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 1: that just say please help. As the title. It's heart 471 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: wrenching and especially heartbreaking to me when I hear that 472 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: people have this sudden epiphany to know what has been 473 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: going on in their lives all of these years. Imagine 474 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: having seen something that no one is ever mentioned anywhere, 475 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: and then you're listening to Coast to Coast and somebody 476 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 1: describes the exact menace, and then you find hold on 477 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: all these horrible things that have gone on, that thing 478 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: shows up, That thing hat man. It's horrible. How do 479 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: people get through their days when they wake up to 480 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: something like that? And you just fight for your lives, 481 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: You really fight for your lives, You fight to keep 482 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: your sanity, and then you fight among yourselves, and then 483 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: you've got to go to work and pretend like nothing 484 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: happened all as well. That's not easy. People break under this. 485 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: People absolutely fracture. That's one of the things that gets 486 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: me really upset when it comes to the alien topic. 487 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: When people report having been taken by these beings, absolutely abused, 488 00:37:53,840 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: absolutely violated. Try relating that to the person in your 489 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: house and they laugh in your face. Or do you 490 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 1: go to work and you get the same kind of response, 491 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: And then the people that you pay to be honest 492 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: with you, the people in this government, say you're just 493 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: full of it, and they've known all along, absolutely all 494 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: the while. Personally, I can't say I've been abducted. I 495 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: don't feel as if I have. I know that I've 496 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 1: seen them, I've seen UFOs, I've seen beings. A lot 497 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: of people are like, wow, you seem so normal, Like 498 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 1: why wouldn't I seem normal? I'm so normal that the 499 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: government came to my door and took me against my 500 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: will to interrogate me to find out what I knew 501 00:38:54,239 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: about aliens? How about that people call those military abductions 502 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 1: or my labs. That's what I've been through. But if 503 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm just nuts, how come all of these people, including myself, 504 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: suddenly realized we've all been interrogated by the government. They 505 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:24,720 Speaker 1: knew and they allowed it to happen. So the games 506 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: that have been played have caused real damage to real people. 507 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: To put these things down as if it wasn't a 508 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: thing that allowed friends, family, neighbors, co workers, allowed them 509 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: to put people like me in a category of not 510 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: being fully tolerable, not realistic. In fact, I've heard that 511 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,839 Speaker 1: people who report UFOs are not qualified to look up 512 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: into the sky to report what their eyeballs are telling them. 513 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: They have that audacity. What happened to us? Trusting ourselves 514 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: and trusting our gut instincts, are trusting our parents when 515 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,720 Speaker 1: they say they saw something weird? Where does the laughter 516 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: come from? Now? I am known for having a big 517 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: sense of humor, especially when it comes to these odd topics. 518 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: But I do with any topic. I find humor in anything. 519 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: But I do take these things serious. I have to. 520 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 1: It's part of my life. And I always get these 521 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: people like this gentleman here that says, trust me, this 522 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: is real. I am not one to judge. I have 523 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: been through the ringer. I feel as if I'm the 524 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: Queen of weird and having experienced so many things, I 525 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: couldn't categorize them all. But now those answers are starting 526 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,879 Speaker 1: to come forward, and even my head is spinning. And 527 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: if you don't know what I'm referring to, if you 528 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: haven't heard the end part from my interview with George 529 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 1: Noria on Coast to Coast AM with Maureen Sieberg during 530 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: the question time, Wow, yeah, it has changed quite a 531 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: bit for me. This life never ceases to amaze me. 532 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Darker Side of life with me, 533 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 1: Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to 534 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,439 Speaker 1: Coast AM Paranormal podcast network, And We'll be right back. 535 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. There's more The Darker side of life 536 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: coming right up. The Coast to Coast a M mobile 537 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: app is here and waiting for you right now. With 538 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 1: the app, you can hear classic shows from the past 539 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 1: seven years, listen to the current live show, and get 540 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: access to the art Bell Vault where you can listen 541 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 1: to uninterrupted audio. 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This is 549 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: George Norri and you're listening to the new y Heart 550 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: Media and Coast to Coast A Paranormal podcast network heard 551 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever 552 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: you find your favorite shows. Welcome back. You are listening 553 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: to the Darker side of life with me, Heidi Hollis 554 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM 555 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network. Remember to go to my main website, 556 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 1: which is Heidi Hollis dot com and submit your stories, 557 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: comments and questions right there on the front page. And 558 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,800 Speaker 1: if you'd like to be a guest on this show, 559 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: please indicate that there. Just before the break, I had 560 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: a gentleman right to me in regards to a very 561 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:26,760 Speaker 1: sticky situation involving the hat Man. He was quite aware 562 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: hat Man was responsible for a load of bad luck 563 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: that he and his wife are enduring, and asked for 564 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 1: me to give him a call. I wish that I 565 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,439 Speaker 1: could give everyone a call who asks me to, and 566 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 1: I of course welcome people to come here on the program, 567 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,720 Speaker 1: but it does get difficult, and it is really hard 568 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: for me to see these emails, and I understand it's 569 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: a horrible situation. I wish I could say I could 570 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 1: be right out there and help on the spot. But 571 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,399 Speaker 1: this is why I'm doing this show. This is why 572 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: I write what I do, This is why I do 573 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: everything that I do. It's of my day. I'm thinking 574 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 1: what more can I do? To be honest, we have 575 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,879 Speaker 1: to empower each other and we have to encourage each other. 576 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 1: And if there was another way, I surely would find it. 577 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: Because it's everything, isn't that what this life is about 578 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: is helping to lift each other up, and especially in 579 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 1: the face of such evil. But there's also good out there. 580 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 1: I've got eight books I've written, and only three are 581 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,359 Speaker 1: on this dark topic. But this is all that I get. 582 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 1: A lot of dark topic sent my way because of 583 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: the shadow people and hatman phenomena that I named and 584 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 1: defined and put out there to the world a lot 585 00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,320 Speaker 1: in part thanks to Coast to Coast am with George 586 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 1: Norri and Tom dan Heiser. They've been really generous and 587 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: helpful and allowing me the opportunity to spread the word 588 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: and warn the world about what's going on, and we 589 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: can together defeat what is happening. It's going to happen. 590 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: I won't stop until it works, all right. So this 591 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 1: next email, this one says I would rather be anonymous, 592 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 1: which is fine. Please indicate that, especially in the first 593 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: line of your email to me. And they go on 594 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 1: to say I had an incident in that still bothers 595 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: me to this day. I was twenty two and going 596 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: through depression and all of the darkness that comes with it. 597 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 1: I had to take time off work eventually about four months. 598 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: I spent that time mostly drinking as I spiraled out 599 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: of troll and my relationship just crumbled. I finally moved 600 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 1: into a flat by myself, where I continued to drink 601 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 1: and sink deeper into a darkness that seemed to engulf 602 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 1: me like a cloud. Pretty soon everyone around me had 603 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:25,800 Speaker 1: stopped and stepped away from me. I just wasn't me anymore. 604 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: It was horrible. Well, I decided one night, after drinking, 605 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 1: though not as heavily as normal, that I was going 606 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 1: to end my life. I suffer from migraines, so I 607 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 1: had a lot of pills about the flat, so I 608 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 1: took a couple of handfuls. Then I got my box 609 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 1: cutter knife out and slit both of my wrists. When 610 00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 1: that was done, I drained the last bit in the bottle, 611 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: smoked a cigarette and stubbed it out. Then I sat 612 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 1: in the armchair and closed my eyes, waiting to die. 613 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: The chair was facing a big bay window. I had 614 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 1: the upstairs flat and a big old Victorian house, and 615 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 1: it was getting late as the moon was in the sky. 616 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: I locked the door with the yale lock, and with 617 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 1: a bar lock that was a bit stiff as the 618 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: previous tenant had painted over it. I drifted to a 619 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 1: slumber and hoped I wouldn't wake I'm not sure what 620 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 1: time it was, but I woke up, leaned slightly forward, 621 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 1: and craned my neck a bit. There was someone in 622 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 1: the room who stood in front of me, between me 623 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:04,360 Speaker 1: and the bay wind. It looked of average height, a 624 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 1: man shape, no eyes or anything. It was solid black. 625 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 1: I moved a bit and saw the moon come into 626 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 1: view from behind this thing's head, so I know it 627 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:25,360 Speaker 1: was solid. I leaned back into the chair. It was 628 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 1: almost like it was sizing me up. Not a scary feeling, 629 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:36,399 Speaker 1: but an uneasy feeling, as I had no clue what 630 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 1: was going on. It moved towards me, and I kept 631 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: still and tried to breathe as normally as I could. 632 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 1: It stood so almost where our legs were touching. That 633 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:59,319 Speaker 1: was when I looked into the empty space where its 634 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 1: face should have been. It was swirling smoke, like different 635 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 1: colors of black. If that doesn't sound too odd. It 636 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:18,320 Speaker 1: was all swirling around like a sea of sorts. Then 637 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: what happened next perplexed me and frightened me so much 638 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 1: that my entire skin feels static as I'm reliving it now. 639 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: It bent at the waist and came face to face 640 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:42,920 Speaker 1: with me, moved slightly, as if looking at my eyes 641 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:48,400 Speaker 1: or something, then stood straight up and shook its head 642 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 1: as if it was tut tutting me. Then it turned 643 00:49:55,160 --> 00:50:00,880 Speaker 1: to my left and followed it as it walked towards 644 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 1: the door. Then I brought my head back to the 645 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 1: chair and tried to work out what had just happened. 646 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:16,359 Speaker 1: After a while, I closed my eyes and eventually went 647 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 1: to sleep. When I woke up, the floor was red 648 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 1: from my wrist bleeding, but the flow had been stemmed. 649 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,800 Speaker 1: I looked down and I could see a deep groove 650 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 1: in each wrist, and couldn't work out why I was 651 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,239 Speaker 1: still alive, as I'd made a pretty good job of it, 652 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 1: well I thought, anyway. Then I recalled the odd encounter 653 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:50,880 Speaker 1: and stood shakily up and walked to my door. It 654 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 1: was still locked by both Yale and bar. No clue 655 00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:00,120 Speaker 1: as to what I'd seen until years later when I 656 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,880 Speaker 1: saw a television show and a man was telling his 657 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 1: story on this. I did some research and found other 658 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 1: people had seen similar things. Only difference seemed to be 659 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,400 Speaker 1: the one I saw had no hat and no eyes. 660 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 1: That was almost thirty years ago, and I think about 661 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 1: it every day. I still have the marks on my 662 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:30,359 Speaker 1: wrists that act as a reminder not only to my stupidity, 663 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:36,400 Speaker 1: but the shadow Man. I've suffered with depression since the 664 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 1: age of seventeen and periodically undulated up and down until 665 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 1: the Mayer. My encounter made me think maybe it was 666 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 1: the shadow Man that was causing my mood or feeding 667 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:58,400 Speaker 1: off my unease, and was shaking his head in disgust 668 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:03,359 Speaker 1: as he thought I was dead or something. Either way, 669 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,879 Speaker 1: I haven't seen him since, and I don't want to. 670 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, Heidi. I'll just put the initial d 671 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 1: absolutely amazing encounter. I've had many people who have written 672 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:28,440 Speaker 1: me after a suicide attempt and seeing typically something like 673 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 1: this guy or typical hat man. The swirling smoke in 674 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: the face. That's a tell tale sign of him as well. 675 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 1: He's not always just solid black. The question is why 676 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 1: would he be upset and tisk tisk him like that 677 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 1: and walk through. I would have some people interpret this 678 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 1: as perhaps he was my guardian and he stopped the 679 00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 1: blood flow and allowed me to live. But as this 680 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 1: person here wondered, they've suffered with depression since they were 681 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 1: seventeen years old and now they can't help. But to 682 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:15,840 Speaker 1: wonder was he partly responsible because this is part of 683 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:23,839 Speaker 1: what he does. Happen, shows up and creates havoc. Interesting perspective, 684 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,279 Speaker 1: and I always say, trust your gut. What does it 685 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,839 Speaker 1: tell you? Does it seem like something like this could 686 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 1: have done such a thing. And if he was feeding 687 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 1: off from you all your life and you were ending it, 688 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 1: there goes his food supply. But one thing that makes 689 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 1: me wonder because of the past suicide emails I've received, 690 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 1: is was he not happy you didn't do the best 691 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 1: job of it so he could have got you? Perhaps 692 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 1: he saw God took pity and spared you to give 693 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 1: you another chance, and wasn't going to allow this dark 694 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 1: entity the hat man or some people will call him 695 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,560 Speaker 1: shadow man, as I once did, didn't allow him to 696 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:19,439 Speaker 1: have his fill of your soul. I'm so happy that 697 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,400 Speaker 1: you were able to get over that and not suffer 698 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,879 Speaker 1: in that depression and allow yourself to be pulled down 699 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,440 Speaker 1: any longer. So I really appreciate your story, and I 700 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,480 Speaker 1: know there's others out there who feel the same way. Truly, 701 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,840 Speaker 1: And remember, if you or someone you know has experienced 702 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,400 Speaker 1: anything out of the ordinary, from the positive to the negative, 703 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,239 Speaker 1: it's all welcome. Just go to Heidi Hollis dot com 704 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 1: and submit your story right there on the front page. 705 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 1: You have been listening to the Darker Side of Life 706 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 1: with me, Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio Coast 707 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 1: to Coast a m paranormal podcast Network, and we'll catch 708 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 1: you next time. Well, if you like this episode of 709 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 1: the Darker Side of Life, wait till you hear the 710 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 1: next one. Thank you for listening to the I Heart 711 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,720 Speaker 1: Radio and Coast to Coast a M para normal podcast Network.