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Speaker 1: Max Crosby from the Las Vegas Raiders, and this is

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Speaker 1: the NFL report.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, baby, JP, Max Crosby littered up for us last week.

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Speaker 2: But we have a massive show today, Jane Palmer As

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Speaker 2: we have Buccaneers general manager Jason light We're gonna talk

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Speaker 2: to him about trying to run it back with a

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Speaker 2: nine to eighteen resigning Baker Mayfield and the crew. We

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Speaker 2: have got USC co defensive coordinator Eric Henderson. Eric used

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Speaker 2: to coach Aaron Donald, the recently retired Aaron Donald with

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Speaker 3: You know he's gonna be bringing the heat.

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Speaker 2: And also Tom Pellis or vil insider with all the

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Speaker 2: goings on that are ongoing in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: JP. Hey, before we get started.

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Speaker 2: Man, have you watched like any of these conference tournaments

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Speaker 2: in college basketball leading up to the NCAA Tournament.

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: I think my buck guys are the number two seed

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Speaker 2: Apparently I watched none, but I got a bunch of notices.

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Speaker 2: How Howard University he won the mediac and we get

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Speaker 2: the playing game. They just can't even give us a

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Speaker 3: Well, That's all right, because the big news.

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Speaker 2: Jap the reason why we're really not, you know, too

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Speaker 2: much involved in college basketball because we're NFL centric. The

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Speaker 2: big news was the Pittsburgh Steelers, a team known for

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Speaker 2: its stability, has brought in two veteran quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear from one of them, and that is Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 4: I'm really excited about just the opportunity to really be

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Speaker 4: the best version of myself every day. Bring that to

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Speaker 4: the table. You know, I know it looks like to win.

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Speaker 4: Coach obviously knows what it looks like to win. This

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Speaker 4: team does, and so this city does more importantly, you know,

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Speaker 4: was fortunate to have several teams call and all that,

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Speaker 4: It's a true honor, it's tradition, it's history. There's six

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Speaker 4: trophies in there. We gotta go get a seventh, and.

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Speaker 2: That was former Broncos and Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson. But

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Speaker 2: also they make the trade for Justin Fields JP and

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Speaker 2: only have to give up a sixth rounder from the

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Speaker 3: A fourth rounded But let's look at this.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna hit this on a lot different angles, Jameson,

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Speaker 2: and my thing is this, they were a playoff team

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Speaker 3: Do they add wins?

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Speaker 1: I think the quarterback room Steve got better as a whole,

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Speaker 1: now Russell Wilson and Justin Fields. But let's be abundantly clear.

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Speaker 1: We heard Russ say a couple of teams were calling.

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Speaker 1: My understanding is this kind of was really his only

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Speaker 1: it could have been. Now, there were several other teams

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, if there is a coach in the

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Speaker 2: it is Mike Tomlin. We've seen that he's got a

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Speaker 2: cliche with him. And if Justin Fields outperforms Russell Wilson

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Speaker 2: Russell's gonna be the guy when we go into offseason

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Speaker 2: I do think they're different because Russell does have the experience, right,

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Speaker 2: But I want to also take it from this angle.

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Speaker 2: Everything you mentioned. These are two quarterbacks. Two teams just

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Speaker 2: Let's also factor this into what's gonna happen with the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Arthur Smith is the new offensive coordinator. People can say

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Speaker 2: Had they had solid quarterback play there, they would have

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Speaker 3: So he can coach.

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Speaker 2: But Arthur Smith did not want Justin Fields. He had

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Speaker 1: And that's what we're all looking for, Steve, because this

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Speaker 1: really looks like a one year Let's see what you

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Speaker 1: probably Mike Tomlin included Arthur Smith both of these quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: Steve and You're right, Arthur Smith gets more out of

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Speaker 1: this is a guy that could be beloved in the

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Speaker 1: But the problem the caveat the fourth quarter is just

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields. That's always been the issue in Chicago, where

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Speaker 1: hard to figure out. In a sense, Steve that if

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Speaker 1: say this, Russ protects the football. Russ protects the football

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Speaker 1: hurt you. But at the same time, that style of

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Speaker 2: It's not going to be sustainable in a division where, oh,

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Speaker 2: you have the reigning MVP and Lamar Jackson, you have

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Speaker 2: Sean Watson or whomever ends up at quarterbacks and is

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Speaker 3: So quarterback play is vital.

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Speaker 2: We've heard their owner Are Rooney basically come out and say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: We want to get back to the Super Bowl play.

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Speaker 2: One thing that we're seeing that this emphasizes more than

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Speaker 2: anything JP is is very hard to replace a franchise quarterback,

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Speaker 2: you know, trying to replace Ben Roethlisberger. Trying to replace

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Speaker 2: Like you said, this could be a one year thing

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Speaker 2: for everybody involved with the Steelers. This is gonna be

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Speaker 2: see how it figures out.

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Speaker 3: Because, like you keep saying, Justin Fields, I think.

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Speaker 2: Is really really gonna push Russ and could end up

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Speaker 5: Definitely true.

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Speaker 1: Multiple players I've talked to have gone against Justin Fields

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Speaker 1: over the year. Seven said one of the most competitive players. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's gone against and this is gonna be a spot.

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Speaker 1: It's not easy to get to that training camp, but

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna find a way to get there.

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Speaker 5: This training camp coming up.

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Speaker 1: We have Jason like the mastermind of money, you could say.

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Speaker 1: Him and his group always find a way to make

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Speaker 1: things happen with the Tampa Bay Bucks. He wants to

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Speaker 1: bring everybody back if it happens. Steve, they're having a

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Speaker 1: boat parade. He says he has a couple more pieces

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Speaker 1: a big one. We'll ask him about his quarterback next.

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Speaker 1: NFL Report, James Palmer, Steve whtch with you, and we

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Speaker 1: are lucky Steve to be joined by Jason light, the

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Speaker 1: general manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And Jason, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. You're trying to bring

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Speaker 1: everybody back. You're you're You're almost there. You're almost to

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Speaker 1: the boat parade. But we'll get to that in a second.

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Speaker 1: I want to start with the guy who lines up

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Speaker 1: under center, and Baker Mayfield. You liked him coming out

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Speaker 1: of the draft. Uh, your head coach had a relationship

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Speaker 1: with him. You guys felt very good about him. But

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Speaker 1: when you had him for this year, what did you

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Speaker 1: learn maybe about him? You didn't know that maybe puts

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Speaker 1: you over the edge. Jason, that goes we have to

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Speaker 1: bring back Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 7: Well, we always knew that he was a super competitive player,

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Speaker 7: super competitive person, you know, he's got that at moxie

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Speaker 7: to him. That's kind of what made everybody, the people

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Speaker 7: that loved him coming out, that's what made him made

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Speaker 7: us love him. I guess it was the extreme leadership

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Speaker 7: that he showed and took over the.

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Speaker 5: Team right away.

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Speaker 7: And that's uh, you know, he he was the he

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Speaker 7: was part of the stir, the straw, the stir of

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Speaker 7: the drink this year. And you know, just with that

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Speaker 7: with his leadership and his toughness, and you know, it

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Speaker 7: was it was our identity this.

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Speaker 2: Year, Jason and saying that, I mean, you've been around

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Speaker 2: this league for a while. It is not easy for

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Speaker 2: basically to import a quarterback to a veteran laden team

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Speaker 2: and that player feel comfortable in assuming that leadership role.

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Speaker 3: Like that?

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Speaker 2: Is that something when you talk about leadership that you

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Speaker 2: factored in, Like, man, he just came in here, We've

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Speaker 2: got all these guys already in place, and he said,

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Speaker 2: let's rock and roll.

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Speaker 3: This is our team.

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Speaker 2: I mean, is that something that that maybe pushed it

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Speaker 2: over the top, that little added stuff that he had.

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Speaker 7: Well, it definitely did. Steven in the fact that he

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Speaker 7: followed a legend that you know, the greatest of all

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Speaker 7: time that was here also shows that he's got a

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Speaker 7: lot of confidence, and that confidence just it bled into

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Speaker 7: the entire team. When we were going through some some

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Speaker 7: rough times this year. You know, he never blinked and

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Speaker 7: the team followed him. So we're, like I said, we're

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Speaker 7: fortunate to have him. So we wanted to have We

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Speaker 7: wanted to make sure that we locked him up.

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Speaker 3: And Jason to that point.

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Speaker 2: To follow it up, if you if you guys got

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Speaker 2: him done before free agency started, do you think if

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Speaker 2: you actually got the free agency you would have been

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Speaker 2: in trouble that somebody else could have scooped in.

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Speaker 7: Well, I can't see why we wouldn't why somebody wouldn't

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Speaker 7: want to want him and have an opportunity to talk

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Speaker 7: to him. You know, like I said, all at the combine,

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Speaker 7: I think when I talked to everybody, he wanted to

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Speaker 7: be here. There's no doubt he didn't hide that, and

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Speaker 7: we wanted him. So at some point you think that

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Speaker 7: you'd be able to make a deal. But you know,

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Speaker 7: we both had to do our respective things, uh to

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Speaker 7: you know, to make sure that we both felt like

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Speaker 7: the deal was fair. And that's what we did, and

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Speaker 7: I'm glad we never got to that point, so I

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Speaker 7: guess we'll never know. Good.

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Speaker 1: That's a good point, Jason. You mentioned Brady, and I

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Speaker 1: was there with you, guys.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you remember me.

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Speaker 1: I was all masked up, one of the few people

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Speaker 1: that was there to stand there every day of training

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Speaker 1: camp while Tom was out there trying to get that

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Speaker 1: offense in place in that first year he was there.

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned with Baker the scale that you mentioned

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Speaker 1: that he's like an offensive lineman. He's a ten out

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Speaker 1: of ten, I believe on the I think it was

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Speaker 1: the prickly scale, I'll call it. Maybe I saw you

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Speaker 1: see a lot of that in Brady as well in

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Speaker 1: the way he works with guys. How much have you

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Speaker 1: learned about that trait with the quarterback position, maybe after

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Speaker 1: your time with Tom and now that you see it

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Speaker 1: in Baker. Is there a similarity between the two with

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Speaker 1: that specific trait.

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Speaker 7: Well, it's hard to compare anybody to Brady, but I

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Speaker 7: will say that you are correct. I remember when you

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Speaker 7: did have the you had the airbnb down the road

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Speaker 7: here from.

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Speaker 3: Marslute there we go.

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Speaker 5: Yep, Yeah, by.

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Speaker 7: Jason, Brady's a fierce competitor, and so is Baker, and

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Speaker 7: that's obviously a trait that we've seen here the last

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Speaker 7: two quarterbacks we have. That's a that's a positive thing.

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Speaker 7: It's something that we'll look forward to. We we we

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Speaker 7: always try to identify that in the quarterbacks that we

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Speaker 7: that we valuate in the draft and regency. We always

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Speaker 7: look for that. But you know, we've seen it firsthand

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Speaker 7: now and it certainly has shown to be something that

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Speaker 7: is what gets the best out of these guys.

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Speaker 2: Jason, what's it like, you know, when you when you

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Speaker 2: kind of have I don't know if it's a predicable.

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Speaker 2: Let's call it a situation where you have a franchise

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Speaker 2: legend like a Mike Evans, right, and he's coming up

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Speaker 2: on the contractual situation.

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Speaker 3: He's still productive player, but to make a decision.

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Speaker 2: Like, Okay, maybe he's getting up there in years, do

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Speaker 2: we let him go? Do we a back because of

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Speaker 2: the affinity the fan base and the organization.

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Speaker 3: Has from him.

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Speaker 2: Again, I know it's a specific case, but what is

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Speaker 2: it like having to kind of make those decisions, be

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Speaker 2: it past present versus future.

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Speaker 7: It's not fun sometimes, But in this particular case with Mike,

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Speaker 7: you he did not slow down at all. Year, he

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Speaker 7: had one of his best years. He's of course, we

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Speaker 7: look at all the GPS and all those things, and

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Speaker 7: he was one of the fastest years that he's had.

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Speaker 7: It's it's it's it's a tribute to his training. He's uh,

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Speaker 7: he's working extremely hard. As he's gotten up there in

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Speaker 7: age and as he's put years locked years in he's

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Speaker 7: worked harder and harder in the offseason. And he's a

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Speaker 7: freak worker right now. So we weren't afraid of him

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Speaker 7: losing anything. In fact, we think that he's he's still

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Speaker 7: in his prime, very much so. And I wouldn't be

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Speaker 7: surprised if we actually signed him to another contract extension

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Speaker 7: after this one's done. The way he's motivated right.

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Speaker 3: Now, there we go breaking news. Oh.

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Speaker 5: I love that he's always breaking news.

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Speaker 1: But Jason, you did say in the press conference, he

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Speaker 1: almost you know, you want to avoid getting emotional talking

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Speaker 1: about Mike, Like, what does he genuinely mean to you?

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Speaker 1: I know he means a lot to your family as well,

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Speaker 1: But why is he's just so special as a.

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Speaker 5: Human being and to you.

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Speaker 7: It's because he's the most selfless player that I've ever

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Speaker 7: been around. He's one of the most humble superstars. We've

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Speaker 7: used that several times here, but that's the best way

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Speaker 7: to describe him. He's he's all about team. There's not

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Speaker 7: a single person in that locker room that doesn't respect him,

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Speaker 7: not a single person in this building that doesn't respect him.

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Speaker 7: He knows everybody, he treats everybody the same. He treats

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Speaker 7: And you know, I couldn't draw up a better teammate

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Speaker 7: very emotional in the thought of losing him would be

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Speaker 7: I felt, would be very detrimental to this organization. So

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Speaker 7: I'm glad once again he's another one. I'm glad. We

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Speaker 7: don't know what happened, what would have happened if we

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Speaker 7: that I had a few cocktails after we got that

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Speaker 7: one done.

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Speaker 3: Well done, well done, well learned.

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Speaker 5: I think everybody one of them.

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Speaker 2: Right, So, Jason, when you know you guys resigned several

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Speaker 2: of your own players, and all your teams try to

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Speaker 2: say like, hey, the goal is to always draft, develop,

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Speaker 2: and re sign, but why such you know why this

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Speaker 2: commitment to this team. I mean, we know you guys

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Speaker 2: certain thought to say, hey, we know we can take

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Speaker 2: level or kind of what was it thinking about resigning

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Speaker 7: Well, we've still felt like they were very They were

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Speaker 7: very good players and they're not slowing down, and they

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Speaker 7: were a big reason why we were able to get

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Speaker 7: over the hump last year when we were four and seven.

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Speaker 7: All of these players that we resigned, Levonte David Mike Evans.

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Speaker 7: I mean, these two are gonna put I think they're

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Speaker 7: Hall of Fame players and they're still playing at Levante.

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Speaker 7: We haven't talked about him. He played, he had one

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Speaker 7: of his best years too, So it must be something

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Speaker 7: in then Tampa for him and Mike to be playing

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Speaker 7: the level that they are, and we'll take it.

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Speaker 1: What also happens in Tampa is what happens in the

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Speaker 1: Great State of Florida. Jason, is no state income tax?

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Speaker 1: You've joked about this kind of but also I'm curious

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Speaker 1: if you do use it to your advantage, you any

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Speaker 1: general manager in Texas, say the Titans. Just how does

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Speaker 1: that come into play if it does at all when

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Speaker 5: Does it?

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Speaker 7: I think it does at times more times often than not.

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Speaker 7: But these players these days are very very smart. They're

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Speaker 7: especially these big, big deals, when you're talking about tens

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Speaker 7: there's no state income tax compared to a state that does,

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Speaker 7: it does add up over time. It's quite as pretty

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Speaker 7: significant difference. Now, it's not always the case. I'm not

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Speaker 7: saying we're always going to win that battle against another

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Speaker 2: And also hasn't hurt that Tampa's like one of the

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Speaker 2: most beautiful places in the United.

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Speaker 3: States for people to spend a few years.

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Speaker 2: Jason and so so kind of on on the on

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Speaker 2: the the general of the big picture thing. One trend

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Speaker 2: that we have seen that we saw this this free

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Speaker 2: What is kind of your observation the way that the team,

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Speaker 2: the teams across the league on the first two days

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Speaker 7: Well, it's a very important position. If if the starter

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Speaker 7: If you have a good player. You sawt share with

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Speaker 7: with the Colts that they could rally with with Gardner

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Speaker 7: and and and and almost made it and had a

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Speaker 7: pretty good year. You don't want to You don't want

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Speaker 7: to be in a situation where it's over as the

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Speaker 7: starter does go down, And we don't feel that that's

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Speaker 7: the case here at all. We like Kyle a lot.

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Speaker 7: It was a very heated battle last year in camp

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Speaker 7: but it's a very very important position, always has been here.

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Speaker 7: You can't put a price tag on how important that is.

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Speaker 1: Jason, you like to break some news. We were joking

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Speaker 1: around about it before the interview. I just would love

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Speaker 1: for you to just break Tristan Wurf's has done a

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Speaker 1: long term deal for Antoine Winfield Junior is done. Where

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Speaker 1: do you stand with trying to finish things up so

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Speaker 1: you can have this boat parade with both of those

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Speaker 1: players who are just young and unbelievably talented and probably

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Speaker 1: players you want to be in Tampa for a long time.

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Speaker 7: Oh, there's no doubt those two guys are. Both of

445
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Speaker 7: them just I think they're on their way to possibly

446
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Speaker 7: having a historic career. They've already had great careers, but

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Speaker 7: historic careers and hopefully the entire time here in Tampa work.

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Speaker 7: Our staff did a fantastic job that year in COVID draft.

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Speaker 7: In fact, I've joked a few times that maybe we

450
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Speaker 7: should just all go from home and do the draft

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Speaker 7: with via zoom again like we did that year. It's uh,

452
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Speaker 7: it was uh, that's that's our That's a very high

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Speaker 7: priority for us right now. Number one, Antwine and then

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Speaker 7: and then and then in no particular order, but then

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Speaker 7: Tristan as well, to get them locked up long term.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Jason, this has been fantastic. We really, we really

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Speaker 2: really appreciate you spending the time and we have got

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Speaker 2: to get some of those creamsickle caps that you're done

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Speaker 2: and that is a sweet brim you're rocking right there, man,

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Speaker 2: So thank you so much for taking the time with Jason.

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Speaker 5: All the best.

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Speaker 7: I'll try to hook you up I know, thank you, Jason.

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Speaker 3: There we go.

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Speaker 2: He has been arguably the best, not just defensive player,

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Speaker 2: but the best player of a generation, if not to

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Speaker 2: Aaron Donald has retired, and we'll be talking to his

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Speaker 2: former position coach, who's gonna give us the inside deeps

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Speaker 2: to Donald's greatness.

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Speaker 5: Four he throws it away.

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Speaker 3: Aaron Donald got there.

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Speaker 8: And you can build that man stats you out Soapy Stadium.

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Speaker 8: Right now, the greatest of all time on defense does

478
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Speaker 8: it in the biggest moment of Super Bowl fifty six.

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Speaker 2: We are back at the NFL Report James Palmer, and

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Speaker 2: that is Aaron Donald, one of the greatest we've ever

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Speaker 2: seen to do it. A retired Friday, and now we're

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Speaker 2: joined by Eric Henderson, now the co defensive coordinator and

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Speaker 2: run game coordinator at University of Southern California. But Eric,

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Speaker 2: of course, he spent the last five seasons with the

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Speaker 2: Rams and Partners D Line. Oh it's party's run game coordinator.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us real quick. Over

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Speaker 2: your left shoulder.

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Speaker 3: There is a picture I can just tell by the

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Speaker 3: body type of.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Donald chasing Kyler Murray, like, why is that hanging

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Speaker 2: on your wall?

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Speaker 9: That was the one hundred seck? That was his one

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Speaker 9: hundred seck.

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Speaker 10: Obviously that's important when we talk about just career stats,

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Speaker 10: one that he wanted me to have, and so I'm

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Speaker 10: very appreciative of that and it'd always be with me.

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Speaker 1: I love I love it is that guy right there,

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Speaker 1: tweeted out, he's he's very thankful. Quarterbacks around the league,

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Speaker 1: Eric are very thankful that Aaron is hanging it up

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Speaker 1: just unlike any other player we've really ever seen. And

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Speaker 1: the first thing that jumps to my mind is the

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Speaker 1: way he rushed the quarterback from the interior. Now that

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Speaker 1: he has officially retired, has he changed the position in

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Speaker 1: the NFL in any way in your mind?

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Speaker 9: No doubt.

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Speaker 10: I Mean, you talk about a guy that's just I mean,

507
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Speaker 10: he is the best in the world at what he does.

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Speaker 10: You know, you talk about just redefining the interior defensive

509
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Speaker 10: line position from a skill set standpoint. From above the

510
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Speaker 10: next standpoint, I talk to guys all the time. You

511
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Speaker 10: know that they want to talk about his athleticism and

512
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Speaker 10: the way that he rushed the passer. But this guy's

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Speaker 10: above the neck approach to the game was just of

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Speaker 10: an elite, you know player, and that's why he was

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Speaker 10: able to do so much on the on the football field.

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Speaker 10: He understands what's happening prior to the ball being snapped.

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Speaker 10: He understands blocking schemes. He's very aware to know that

518
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Speaker 10: he dictates the protection and that there's gonna be so

519
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Speaker 10: much attention dedicated to him, and so how can we

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Speaker 10: find ways to to to get free and and so

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Speaker 10: it was a challenge for myself as a coach, which

522
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Speaker 10: made me better and so I'm grateful for that.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 10: And it was a challenge to him weekend and week

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Speaker 10: out seeing protections that you just don't see. You know,

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Speaker 10: you can't scout for him because they don't necessarily show

527
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Speaker 10: that prior to playing us. So we have to anticipate

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Speaker 10: those things week in and week out.

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Speaker 9: And that's where we both got better.

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Speaker 10: When you talk about this guy what he dictates, and

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Speaker 10: then myself as a coach having to to figure out

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Speaker 10: ways to help them.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Eric, right, let's since you got us in his pocket.

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Speaker 2: When you guys played the Eagles early last season, Jason

535
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Speaker 2: Kelsey told me postgame, because I was like you, you

536
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Speaker 2: were asked to do something I've never seen before out

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Speaker 2: of the center, and that was to basically track Aaron

538
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Speaker 2: Donald regardless if right or left side of wherever he aligned.

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Speaker 2: You can make sure you had a constant double team

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Speaker 2: on him. He said he'd never done that before in

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Speaker 2: his career. What was that game like seeing what the

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Speaker 2: Eagles designed to stop one player.

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Speaker 9: In particular, no doubt.

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Speaker 10: First of all, you credit the Egles in terms of

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Speaker 10: what they were able to do, and when you have

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Speaker 10: a veteran offensive line like the guys that those those

547
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Speaker 10: guys are, it allowed them to be able to do that.

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Speaker 10: And then when you talk about Kelsey, who's one of

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Speaker 10: the best at the position to ever play the play

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Speaker 10: the game as well, uh being able to do something

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Speaker 10: I had never seen before in my life. And I

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Speaker 10: don't think you I've ever seen it after us and

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Speaker 10: I haven't seen them they take that protection prior to

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Speaker 10: playing us. And so again, when you talk about the

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Speaker 10: greatest to ever play the game, it's smart. It was

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Speaker 10: they were able to get it done, but it also

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Speaker 10: challenged our unit up front, you know when you talk

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Speaker 10: about the young guys that we had and have, and

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Speaker 10: so we're able to go into the meetings after that

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Speaker 10: game as to you know, show these guys how disrespectful

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Speaker 10: it was when you talk about them dedicating this much

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Speaker 10: attention to Aaron Donald. We have to get better, guys,

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Speaker 10: We have to get better around him, and we cannot

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Speaker 10: allow teams to be able to do that. And uh,

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Speaker 10: and even with the type of players that they have,

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Speaker 10: and you talk about the Lame John and you know,

567
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Speaker 10: all those guys that were just some really good football players.

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Speaker 9: I don't feel like they had to do that, but

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Speaker 9: they did.

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Speaker 10: And they had some success doing that against us, and

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Speaker 10: so credit to those guys. And uh, but we were

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Speaker 10: able to get get some pressure on the quarterback as well,

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Speaker 10: but obviously that quarterback made some plays and so they

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Speaker 10: had they did a good job that week.

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Speaker 5: Eric, I'm curious.

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Speaker 1: Our good buddy, Albert Breyer, who writes for Sports Illustrated,

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Speaker 1: came out this morning with an article about Aaron and

578
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Speaker 1: talked to Jeff Fisher, and Jeff Fisher kind of said,

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Speaker 1: we saw offensive coordinators almost have two call sheets one

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Speaker 1: when Aaron was in the game, and then plays that

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Speaker 1: they would call when Aaron was taking a break. Did

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Speaker 1: you see that during your time with Aaron that actually

583
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Speaker 1: there were plays were kept on the shelf while he

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Speaker 1: was in the game.

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Speaker 9: It's so funny.

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Speaker 10: I mean, me and me and a d would be

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Speaker 10: on the sideline and I'm like, he's like, coach, I just.

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Speaker 9: Give me two Like fuck, you know, god, dang it, bro,

589
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Speaker 9: Like you know you did, hurry up. And then I'm like,

590
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Speaker 9: they're about to take a shot right now.

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Speaker 10: So we left and you know, we already know he's

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Speaker 10: on the sideline, and I mean that's when they taken

593
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Speaker 10: shots because they feels like they can get the ball

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Speaker 10: down the field at that time, because they feel like

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Speaker 10: they'll they'll they'll have more time to to uh to

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Speaker 10: design those those routes that can get down the field.

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Speaker 10: And so like we newted all of those things. So

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Speaker 10: we had different calls as well. You know, we were

599
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Speaker 10: we were playing accordingly as well, understanding what those situations were.

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Speaker 10: Knowing and that's why they never really hurt us because

601
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 10: we we understood those things. And so it's it's awesome.

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Speaker 10: It was it helped us stay ahead of on the

603
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Speaker 10: call sheet as well, because we can uh plan the

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Speaker 10: right way and so but it was just it was

605
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Speaker 10: just different. And you know, and there will never be

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Speaker 10: a guy that again that can change the game like that.

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Speaker 9: I don't think, you know, he's special.

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Speaker 10: He's special in his own right and uh and I

609
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Speaker 10: love him to death, man, And you know, I'm so

610
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 10: happy for him, excited for him, for his family.

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Speaker 9: You know, I can't say enough great things about this guy.

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Speaker 3: So Eric, and saying all of that, what's left?

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, okay, so with the RAMS thinking, you

614
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Speaker 2: don't have to assar to be specific about what could

615
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Speaker 2: happen because you can't replace Aaron Donald. But how does

616
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Speaker 2: the team now compensate for losing somebody who caused other

617
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Speaker 2: teams to game plan for a specific player who was

618
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Speaker 2: absolutely disruptive even when they did, Like, how do you

619
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Speaker 2: compensate that?

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Speaker 5: Steve?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 10: The good thing is that I think that Sean's gonna

623
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Speaker 10: do it, and let's need to do a tremendous job

624
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Speaker 10: of getting the right guys in there that will be

625
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Speaker 10: able to help the defense out. You know, I think

626
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Speaker 10: obviously you can't ever replace a guy like Aaron Donald,

627
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Speaker 10: but you can get a couple of players that can

628
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Speaker 10: help at least get some pressure on the quarterback, you know,

629
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Speaker 10: do some things in the run game if you strategically

630
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 10: get the right kind of guys in there. And you know,

631
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Speaker 10: Chris Shu is gonna do a great job in terms

632
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Speaker 10: of calling the defense. I'm very confident in that I's

633
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 10: got some great coaches over there with him. Now, Gifts

634
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 10: Med you know, all be pleasant and uh, you know,

635
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 10: Joe and Ac like those guys will do a really

636
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 10: good job on that defensive staff and uh, and they'll

637
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 10: put the guys in position to have success. Not to mention,

638
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 10: you got the younger guys that are the Kobe Turners

639
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 10: and the Byron you know young those guys will continue

640
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 10: to get better as well.

641
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Speaker 9: Uh, but there's no way you can replace a d.

642
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Speaker 10: You can't even go into a situation thinking that you

643
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Speaker 10: even have that type of success. You just have to,

644
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 10: you know, get the guys, continue to get the guys better,

645
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 10: and and and hope it you know, it helps out,

646
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 10: it works itself out, and I'm sure it will will

647
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Speaker 10: you know it's gonna be different, but you know it'll

648
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Speaker 10: be It'll be fine.

649
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Speaker 1: Well as they're trying to rebuild what they do up

650
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Speaker 1: front Erica and this is draft time. And I go

651
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Speaker 1: back to what everybody was saying about Aaron Donald when

652
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Speaker 1: he was coming out during this time period. It was,

653
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Speaker 1: you know, the arms aren't long enough, he's not tall enough.

654
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Speaker 1: I'm curious if if the build that had it's kind

655
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Speaker 1: of similar to what you had when you were playing

656
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Speaker 1: in the league, Like, was that to his advantage? Do

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Speaker 1: you think that ended up benefiting him? The build that

658
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Speaker 1: he had.

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Speaker 10: Of course, not only the bill, but it's the heart.

660
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Speaker 10: It's the heart, it's the above the neck approach, is

661
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Speaker 10: understanding to the game. He's a physical football player, and

662
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Speaker 10: he's got the athletic ability to do things that certain

663
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Speaker 10: guys that may have a build can't do. And so

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Speaker 10: at the end of the day, you know, when you

665
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Speaker 10: have all of those things, you understand the game. You're athletic,

666
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Speaker 10: you're strong, you're powerful, you're physical. Like that's maybe sometimes

667
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Speaker 10: better than a guy that's just that has measurables and

668
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Speaker 10: can't do nearly the you know the amount of things

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Speaker 10: that he can do on a football field, and that's

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Speaker 10: why he has success so many times. Some of these

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Speaker 10: teams and some of these people whoever right, get into

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Speaker 10: the measurables and they overlook the football player. And sometimes

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Speaker 10: that's why you see the Kobe Turners have success in

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Speaker 10: the Byron Young, in the Aaron Donalds, because these guys

675
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Speaker 10: are football players. They're physical, they play the game the

676
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Speaker 10: right way, they're smart, they play with effort. Like if

677
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Speaker 10: you can't coach that up, then that's a problem. And

678
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Speaker 10: so like those are the type of guys that you

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Speaker 10: want to have on your defensive line. If you can

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Speaker 10: build it with those guys, and then when you get

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Speaker 10: some of the guys that do have the measurables, that's

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Speaker 10: a plus. But you don't just overlook some of those

683
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Speaker 10: guys that have some of those intangibles just because there

684
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Speaker 10: are six to one, don't have the loan longest arms

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Speaker 10: and all of that. I embraced that, you know, as

686
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Speaker 10: a coach, and I'm so those guys took that as

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Speaker 10: chips on their shoulders as well. And like you mentioned,

688
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Speaker 10: you know, I was one of those guys that was

689
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Speaker 10: talked about like that. So having that passion and coaching

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Speaker 10: guys that were similar in a sense, you know, we're

691
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Speaker 10: all in it together, and it's like we're you know,

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Speaker 10: we all feel like we got our back against the wall.

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Speaker 10: And that was kind of like the motto if you

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Speaker 10: will with that group there, you know, so fun.

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Speaker 3: Eric, real quick, we only got about thirty seconds here.

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Speaker 2: You created You created a little something on Twitter the

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Speaker 2: other day when you kind of hinted that d maybe

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Speaker 2: join you at USC fight on what is the deal?

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Speaker 3: Is Ad coming to join you? Is he coming to

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Speaker 3: join your baby?

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Speaker 10: You know what I what I will say is this

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Speaker 10: is that uh you know, right now, this is about

703
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Speaker 10: you know, a d and joined his family. Definitely want

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Speaker 10: to give him that that respect and and and and

705
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Speaker 10: let him do his thing.

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Speaker 9: He deserves it, had a wonderful football career.

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Speaker 10: Uh, you know, would love to have him should he

708
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Speaker 10: decide to make that type of decision. But that's not

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Speaker 10: something that I don't think is in his uh you know,

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Speaker 10: he's he's gonna do right now. He's gonna enjoy his

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Speaker 10: time with his family, which he deserves, and and we'll

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Speaker 10: see what happens from that standpoint.

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Speaker 9: But of course, you know, you love to have him here,

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Speaker 9: you know, if that works out.

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Speaker 2: So I'm sure you could convince and make a guest

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Speaker 2: appearance Hey, Eric, cannot thank you enough for joining us.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 2: This is awesome, insight, It's one of the greatest players

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Speaker 2: JP and I will be sitting close to you five

720
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Speaker 2: years from now in Canton, Ohio.

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Speaker 3: When Ad is putting on that gold jacket. Thanks so

722
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Speaker 3: much for joining this coach.

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Speaker 10: Thank you guys for having me really appreciate this is awesome.

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Speaker 10: Anything for a d I love him, you know, and

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Speaker 10: I'm looking forward to to watching what's to happen next.

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Speaker 2: All right, fight on, all right on the ENDFL Report,

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Speaker 2: Justin Fields he is now a Pittsburgh Steeler. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: have a lot more conversation on that, and we're back

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Speaker 2: after the break all the.

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Speaker 5: Tape, Elsie, Welcome back to the NFL Report.

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Speaker 1: James Palmer, Steve Whitch with you, joined by NFL Network

732
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Speaker 1: insider Tom Pelasero and Tom. We started the show talking

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Speaker 1: about Justin Fields and the battle that he's going to

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Speaker 1: go through, because I still think it's a battle with

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson throughout this offseason to see who's going to

736
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Speaker 1: be the quarterback in Pittsburgh. But he gets for a

737
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Speaker 1: sixth round pick next year that can become a fourth

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Speaker 1: round pick due to playing time, What was the market

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Speaker 1: and how did this fall? Because during free agency you

740
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Speaker 1: were on the phone constantly. Was this played correctly in

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Speaker 1: your mind by the Bears? And did they ever think

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Speaker 1: holding on to him was a realistic option for them?

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Speaker 1: They kind of waiting teams out maybe if that was

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Speaker 1: also in play.

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Speaker 11: I think he had a couple of different things going

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Speaker 11: on here, James One. You know, in the mind of

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Speaker 11: gms around the league, the market or backup quarterbacks got

748
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Speaker 11: set because there were a lot of different trades where

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Speaker 11: they were pick flops, where they were a straight sixth

750
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Speaker 11: round pick like the mac Jones one. They all kind

751
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Speaker 11: of added up to the Day three type of a selection.

752
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Speaker 11: Then also all the starting jobs and all the chances

753
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Speaker 11: to really compete in other places got filled. Nobody's given

754
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Speaker 11: up a second round draft pick or a backup quarterback.

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Speaker 11: It's just not going to happen, And so were the Bears.

756
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Speaker 11: Their options were, as you mentioned, either wait it out

757
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 11: and hold on just fields and see what develops and

758
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Speaker 11: see if anybody gets hurt and potentially have help the

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Speaker 11: dynamic in training camp of the guy who's been the

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Speaker 11: starter there with a likely new starter with the number

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Speaker 11: one overall draft pick. The Bears ultimately decided that they

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Speaker 11: weren't going to go through that entire situation. We know

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Speaker 11: that Caleb Williams has his Pro Day this week. The

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Speaker 11: Bears are going to continue to zero in on exactly

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Speaker 11: what they're doing in number one. Overall. I've said many

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Speaker 11: times I believe, including on this show, and everything the

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Speaker 11: Bears have done through this entire offseason, going all the

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Speaker 11: way back to the offensive coordinator change, pointed toward them

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Speaker 11: making a change of quarterback and taking Caleb Williams number one.

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Speaker 3: Overall.

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Speaker 11: It makes too much sense from a financial perspective. You

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Speaker 11: reset the clock on your quarterback, as opposed to Justin Fields,

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Speaker 11: who's going into year four. You're going to have to

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Speaker 11: pay him eventually, you have a decision to make on

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Speaker 11: his option and all those sorts of things. They brought

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Speaker 11: in a coach who is a good fit with the

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Speaker 11: style of play that Caleb Williams would fit into. And

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Speaker 11: in reality, as much as there's been debate about is

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Speaker 11: this polarizing Fields versus Caleb, it's really not in the

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Speaker 11: mind of evaluators here. So for Justin Fields, we know

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Speaker 11: how dynamic he can be with the football in his hands.

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Speaker 11: He doesn't always play on time, he doesn't always get

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Speaker 11: the ball out in rhythm. If you're going to play

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Speaker 11: the style of offense the Bears want to, you want

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Speaker 11: somebody who maybe plays a little bit more like that.

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Speaker 11: And so now he joins Russell Wilson in Pittsburgh where

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Speaker 11: Russell Wilson's another guy who's never really in his career

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Speaker 11: played on schedule. He's always been about creating outside the pocket.

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Speaker 11: It's you're going to build a style of offense that

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00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 11: fits Russ. They made abundantly clear to Russell Wilson, you

791
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Speaker 11: are the starter. Even after the Justin Fields trade here,

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Speaker 11: I would anticipate Arthur Smith coming up with a lot

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Speaker 11: of different things to account for the way that those

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Speaker 11: guys play the quarterback position.

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Speaker 5: Here.

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Speaker 11: They're going to run the football a ton. I mean,

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Speaker 11: that's the other thing with the Steelers offseason is go

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Speaker 11: through a look between trade away Deontay Johnson, they cut

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Speaker 11: Alan Robinson. They do have George Pickens, who's gonna be

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Speaker 11: a high volume but there may not be a lot

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Speaker 11: of footballs to go around here.

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Speaker 3: Either way.

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Speaker 11: They're going to run the heck out of the football

804
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Speaker 11: and having guys like Russell Wilson, even though it was

805
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 11: he is as elusive as quick as he once was.

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Speaker 11: Probably not justin fields is it'd be interesting to see

807
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Speaker 11: how they potentially use both those guys as the season

808
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Speaker 11: goes on. But for Fields in the end, market really

809
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Speaker 11: dictated what they could get for me. You either could

810
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Speaker 11: place that gamble hold onto the guy, see what happens

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00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 11: down the line and all the things that come with it,

812
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Speaker 11: or you make the move right now they up into

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Speaker 11: the ladder.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think all those would agree that they couldn't

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Speaker 2: have him the Caleb Williams in the building.

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Speaker 3: That's just an awkward dynamic.

817
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Speaker 2: There's two potentially young star quarterbacks being in that locker

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Speaker 2: room together. Now, let's go to the other trickle down

819
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Speaker 2: through the Steelers zone. That's Kenny Pickett getting traded to

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Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles in that match right there.

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Speaker 11: Well, with Kenny Pickett, this was really unusual just the

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Speaker 11: way that the entire past couple of months played out

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Speaker 11: because from what my understanding and going into free agency,

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Speaker 11: going through January and February, the Steelers' mentality was, let's

825
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Speaker 11: give Kenny Pickett a real chance with a different OC

826
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Speaker 11: and see what he can do, and that's not at

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Speaker 11: all a shot at Mac Canada. It's the reality that

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Speaker 11: that offense was not as productive as anybody would have

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Speaker 11: wanted with Hendy Pickett at quarterback. He had a lot

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Speaker 11: of injuries during the course of that time. That's the

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Speaker 11: biggest story of Kenny Pickett's career at this point is

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Speaker 11: even when he's played good football, he hasn't been able

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Speaker 11: to stay on the field, whether it's because of concussions,

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Speaker 11: an ankle, or other types of ailments here. So, when

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Speaker 11: the Russell Wilson opportunity began to come and focus, I

836
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Speaker 11: was told that there were two primary advocates for bringing

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Speaker 11: in Russell Wilson. One of them was Cam Hayward, who

838
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Speaker 11: was the longtime team captain. Like Russell Wilson, he's a

839
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Speaker 11: Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year Award winner. Cam

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Speaker 11: Hayward was pushing let's bring in Russ. The other one

841
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Speaker 11: was Mike Tomlin. Mike Comlin kept forcing the issue and

842
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Speaker 11: pushing for hey, we can get Russell Wilson at the minimum,

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Speaker 11: it makes perfect sense for where we're at. Let's bring

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Speaker 11: him in here and have him be a part of

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Speaker 11: the roster. So with Kenny Pickett. The way that I

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Speaker 11: understand this played out was Mike Tomlin and Kenny Pickett

847
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Speaker 11: had obviously been communicating through the process. Tomlin had told Picket, hey,

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Speaker 11: no matter what happens here, you're going to get a

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Speaker 11: chance to compete. So on that Sunday night, Kenny Pickett,

850
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Speaker 11: like a lot of other people, learn on social media

851
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 11: since Russell Wilson insisted on breaking it himself. In a

852
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Speaker 11: hype video on Instagram, it learns that Russell Wilson is

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Speaker 11: going to Pittsburgh. Pickett then talks the next morning to

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Speaker 11: Mike Tomlin and rather being told hey, open competition, he's

855
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Speaker 11: told listen, Russ is in the pole position. He's going

856
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Speaker 11: to get the first reps. At that point, Pickett said,

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Speaker 11: well then I want a fresh start. The Steelers, in

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Speaker 11: pretty rapid form accommodated that they move on from him.

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Speaker 11: That then opened up the spot for Justin Fields. As

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Speaker 11: for Kenny Pickett, you know, he was the first quarterback

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Speaker 11: taken in a quarterback draft that at this point does

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Speaker 11: not look great. And I think that you knew that

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Speaker 11: based on how things played out devolved. Blink Willis's currently

864
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Speaker 11: third in Tennessee. Sam Howell, who was a fifth round

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Speaker 11: pick in that draft was in. There has been Rider

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Speaker 11: who just got traded to Arizona as well. With Pickett, again,

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Speaker 11: there's something there with him. He's not the biggest guy,

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Speaker 11: he doesn't have the biggest starm, but he played a

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Speaker 11: ton of football in college. His issue is being he

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Speaker 11: can't stay on the field. When you're a young quarterback

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Speaker 11: who keeps getting hurt, it's hard to kind of build

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Speaker 11: that momentum.

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Speaker 3: And get better.

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Speaker 5: Tom. I love that you avoided saying he had small hands.

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Speaker 1: Nice work to avoid that aspect of Kenny Pickett that

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Speaker 1: everybody loves to scrutinize over and over again. And listen,

877
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Speaker 1: when you lose your job to Mason Rudolph and a

878
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Speaker 1: super Bowl winning quarterback comes into camp, that's a veteran

879
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Speaker 1: like Russell Wilson, you would just assume he's probably going

880
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Speaker 1: to get the first crack at first team reps in

881
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Speaker 1: the spring.

882
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 5: It just kind of always usually falls that way around

883
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Speaker 5: the league.

884
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: How about another trade, but this one involving picks the

885
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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. As you sit in that great state right there,

886
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: Tom acquire another first round pick from the Houston Texans.

887
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Speaker 1: Are we all just assuming this is to get ammunition

888
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Speaker 1: for a quarterback, or can we just say yes, this

889
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Speaker 1: is ammunition for a quarterback.

890
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 11: Well, as soon as Ian and I found out and

891
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 11: broke that story on Friday morning, the moment that I

892
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 11: saw what it was, all I was thinking was, this

893
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 11: is the Eagles going up for Carson Wentz all over again,

894
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 11: and so you have to make one jump up and

895
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Speaker 11: then potentially make another jump up to get that ammunition.

896
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Speaker 11: So they now own the number eleven pick and the

897
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Speaker 11: number twenty three pick, depending what chart you're going off of,

898
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Speaker 11: that could potentially be enough to get close to the

899
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Speaker 11: top three, but you would need somebody else to want

900
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Speaker 11: to move, and you might need to outbid somebody else

901
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Speaker 11: who's also trying to get that high up in the

902
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Speaker 11: draft here. So you know, really at number one with Chicago,

903
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Speaker 11: especially after the Justin Fields trade, the assumption within the

904
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Speaker 11: league all along, but especially now is the bear stampat

905
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Speaker 11: they probably take Caleb Williams. Number two then is where

906
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 11: the draft really begins with the Washington Commanders. And I

907
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 11: think that anybody who says they know for sure what

908
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 11: the commanders are going to do is probably lying to you,

909
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 11: because they haven't really other than obviously going through the

910
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 11: process and sitting down with all the quarterbacks at the combine.

911
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 11: Josh Harris, who is the owner, is in those meetings.

912
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 11: Bob Myers, the former NBA general manager, who seems to

913
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 11: have his finger on everything that they're doing in the

914
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 11: football operation right now, he's a part of those meetings

915
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 11: as well. They're obviously doing their due diligence on those guys,

916
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 11: But to say that it's Drake May another North Carolina

917
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 11: quarterback a couple of years after they took Sam out,

918
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Speaker 11: where there could be Jayden Daniels. All that's kind of

919
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,479
Speaker 11: uncertain here, And because number two is uncertain, that also

920
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 11: generates some uncertainty around number three, where the Patriots have

921
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 11: an obvious quarterback need, but they have to see exactly

922
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 11: how those first two paints fall. So there's a lot

923
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 11: of different things that could play out here in the

924
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Speaker 11: coming weeks. With Quasia Dofo Mensa, who's always they get

925
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Speaker 11: ahead on these things and strategizing, and he's got a

926
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Speaker 11: lot of deals that involved pick flops and future picks

927
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Speaker 11: and current picks, and he did that here. He gave

928
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Speaker 11: up a second round pick next year and this year's

929
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 11: second round pick to get that number twenty three overall pick.

930
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 11: Could they stand pat at eleven and twenty three and

931
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 11: take two really good players, Jared, That's certainly a possibility here,

932
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 11: But I think it's also an acknowledgment at minimum that

933
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 11: we're getting even those top three quarterbacks. If you're talking

934
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Speaker 11: about let's say the fourth quarterback, right, it's JJ McCarthy.

935
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Speaker 11: That guy might not be there at number eleven either,

936
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Speaker 11: So we at least want to have the flexibility to

937
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 11: move up. You do that by making an early trade. That,

938
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Speaker 11: by the way, we allows Nick Casario to do with

939
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 11: Bill Belichick and Nick and everybody did in New England

940
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 11: for years, which is stock buy all those second round

941
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Speaker 11: picks right.

942
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: Back, Hey, Tom, And this is just me, I mean,

943
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 2: just a radar kind of going off a little bit.

944
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: The Cleveland Browns, they've got dtr and the roster they

945
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: add Jamis and now they just signed Snoop Huntley. Right,

946
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: They've got three quarterbacks from four quarterbacks who've actually started

947
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 2: games now on that roster. Are we sure that Deshaun

948
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: Watson is on schedule to return medically? I mean, just

949
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 2: seeing all these quarterbacks being added, all of a sudden.

950
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: Is this one of those things that to all of

951
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 2: us journalists that kind of set off a little bit

952
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: of a maybe a bit of an alarm, if you

953
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 2: want to call it an alarm.

954
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 3: I don't think it's that. But why are they all

955
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 3: of a sudden signing all these guys?

956
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 11: Well, it needed four starting quarterbacks to get through last season,

957
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 11: Steep Andrew Barrys having an acknowledgement today, you can't have

958
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 11: enough guys on the roster, enough guys to know the

959
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 11: former Pro Bowl quarterback Snoop Untley, by the way he

960
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 11: was sitting out there, haven't seen his deal yet to

961
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 11: imagine it's a minimum type of a deal to bring

962
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 11: him in with DTR. He saw the good and the

963
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 11: bad oft DTR. I mean, there's reasons that they went

964
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 11: and got Joe Flacco and they didn't stick to DTR.

965
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 3: I was at his first win in Cleveland.

966
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 11: You know, he made a couple of plays, but he

967
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 11: missed a lot of throws in that game as well,

968
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 11: So you know he's a developmental type of a guy. There. Again,

969
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 11: it took a lot of quarterbacks to get through last season.

970
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 11: Sean Watson, everything I've heard is that everything is on

971
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 11: schedule in terms of his recovery, He's battle a lot

972
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 11: of injuries. You know, he's been beat up. He was

973
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 11: beat up last season. That wasn't the only injury that

974
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 11: he had here, So being able to have a dish

975
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 11: guys in you're gonna bring four quarterbacks to camp anyway,

976
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 11: and based on the Browns recent history here, why not

977
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 11: have it be four guys who all have starting experience.

978
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 11: In the event that something happens and you end up

979
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 11: meeting more than one.

980
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: There you go, all right, Hey, Tom speaking home of

981
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: the Marrier, Tom, when amboad to hear from the insiders again,

982
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: boy be.

983
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 11: Sources say we'll be back Monday and Tuesday one pm

984
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 11: Eastern time. I believe that's right. That's what says on

985
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 11: the screen live from the NFL meetings in Orlando, Florida.

986
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 11: So we'll have we'll talk to head coaches, GMS. I'm

987
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 11: sure some owners will stop by the set as well.

988
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 11: Me Ian Round, Poor Mike Grifolo, Judy Bautista live and

989
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 11: on the scene. There's always a lot of news that

990
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 11: happens at the time of year. There's gonna be rule

991
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 11: Chamber us, some pretty big ones like Kickoff that are

992
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 11: gonna get discussed there as well, So we'll be breaking

993
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,959
Speaker 11: it all down. We'll be wearing sunblock, We'll be having

994
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 11: a good time out there, slowly melting in our suits. Orlando, Florida,

995
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:58,959
Speaker 11: can't wait the insiders back then.

996
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 3: Hey, Tom, I'll also be there.

997
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: You know, if I can get a ride on the

998
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: set to to maybe make an appearance, you know that

999
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 2: that'd be awesome. So I will see you down at

1000
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: Orlando on There we go, Hey, there we go.

1001
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

1002
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: And when we come back from the break, what are

1003
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Speaker 2: some teams we haven't really been talking about that maybe

1004
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 2: have made some subtle moves that could help New York

1005
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: Jets be part of that with with without Aaron Rodgers, JP,

1006
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: we come back on the NFL report, We're gonna wrap

1007
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: things up with some things that will make you go, hmmm,

1008
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: are we here.

1009
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 3: To close out the NFL orports Eve Whites and James

1010
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 3: Palmer and JP.

1011
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: You know, during all this free agency and all this

1012
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: offseason action, one that it's quietly gone under the radar

1013
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 2: is that Jets have brought in Hyron Smith and tackle

1014
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: Morgan Moses to help out Aaron Rodgers. I think they

1015
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: quietly have positioned themselves to be better. But what about

1016
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: another team of the AFC that might be leaving their

1017
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: quarterback hanging Based on some of the free agent activity.

1018
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: And watching the Charger Steve with these four players that

1019
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: were all massive cap hits. Joey Bosa ends up restructuring,

1020
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: Khalil mackrestructures, they stay. Both receivers are gone in Mike

1021
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: Williams and Keenan Allen. Now it's Quentin Jefferson. I think

1022
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: Johnston and Joshua Palmer no relation. But I do love

1023
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: where they sit in the draft, Steve sitting there at five.

1024
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: If something happens and Tom was breaking this down to

1025
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Speaker 1: us with picks three and four ahead of them, possibly

1026
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: and there's some quarterback shuffling or needs, they can either

1027
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: get the best receiver in the draft. They can have

1028
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: a needy position at five and trade back and still

1029
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: get a receiver and maybe get more assets. But I

1030
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: think it's been interesting to see how the Chargers have

1031
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: found their way, and I don't think they're done. I

1032
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Speaker 1: think they're a main reason why we continue to evaluate

1033
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: this process as the offseason goes on, because there's a

1034
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: shock right now. But let's just see how it plays out.

1035
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Speaker 3: Very good point. Don't forget to check out the NFL Thursday.

1036
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 3: We've got a big show coming right here. We've got people.

1037
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Speaker 2: We're gonna be talking a lot more draft with those

1038
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: two handsome.

1039
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 3: Guys, Nave Falmer t Whites to be with you.

1040
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Speaker 2: We are also a podcast, JP great show. Want to

1041
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 2: think Jason Light, Eric Kennerson, Tom Pella Sero and you

1042
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 2: the viewers.

1043
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 3: And the listeners for checking us out.

1044
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Speaker 5: Steve's going USC's Pro Day. He'll be there.