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Speaker 1: Good evening, and welcome to tune in Tuesday. It is

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Speaker 1: season two, episode twenty four of The Patriots Podcast, coming

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Speaker 1: to you live every Tuesday night from the America First

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Speaker 1: Warehouse right here on Long Island in New York. We're

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Speaker 1: so happy to be back this Tuesday. The days go fast,

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Speaker 1: but I'd rather I'd like to be here more often

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Speaker 1: with you ladies. We love doing this and we love

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Speaker 1: our audience, right.

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Speaker 2: And there's always so much to talk about.

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Speaker 3: We can't jam it all in, and I want to

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Speaker 3: be able to talk about everything.

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Speaker 4: I know it.

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Speaker 1: One hour show goes way too fast, way too fast,

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Speaker 1: we do.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you this, Even a two hour radio show

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Speaker 5: was really fast.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you were right the way.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you. A shout out to Kevin. I

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Speaker 5: didn't put any assets in so. Kevin Downey Junior, the comedian,

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Speaker 5: our good friend. We love him. I was on with

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Speaker 5: him yesterday and he will be on soon.

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 2: I keep saying that you were on his radio show.

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Speaker 5: One three point nine l I News Radio. He's a

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Speaker 5: huge Patriot. He's on Life from SUO six B and uh.

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Speaker 5: He's a journal he's just an all around great.

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Speaker 7: Guy and he's hysterically funny.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I'm going to say, Kevin, if you

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Speaker 5: watch it, I'm sorry, but you said it on Area yesterday.

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Speaker 5: I almost fell out of my chair. He is fifty

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Speaker 5: nine years old.

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Speaker 4: Get wow, he looks great.

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Speaker 5: I could I almost fell over. I was like, thank

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Speaker 5: god we weren't on live camera because I.

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Speaker 7: Probably was like, what, yeah, he's great.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you live on Long Island or in New

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Speaker 1: York or anywhere in the country, you should have been

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Speaker 1: aware of some big things happening.

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Speaker 4: This past weekend.

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Speaker 1: There was the No King's protest in a two thousand

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Speaker 1: cities nationwide and several here on Long Island and across

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Speaker 1: the state of New York. It was really unbelievable. The

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Speaker 1: misinformation continues. I mean they were saying that, you know, oh,

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Speaker 1: Trump is spending millions of dollars to celebrate his birthday. So,

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Speaker 1: first of all, it was in the works for years.

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Speaker 1: This was to celebrate Flag Day, our military, two hundred

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Speaker 4: Our military, of our army.

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Speaker 1: So it just happens to be that the forty fifth

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Speaker 1: and forty seven, the president has a birthday on that day.

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Speaker 4: It is what it is.

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Speaker 5: Doge found.

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Speaker 7: Oh I know, how dare you.

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Speaker 1: The waste the waste, But we we did have a

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Speaker 1: cover from news Day, So for anyone local on Long Island,

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Speaker 1: that's our If you're not from Long Island, that's our

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Speaker 1: local newspaper here.

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Speaker 4: But that was cut too.

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Speaker 1: If we could pull cut two up and they're woke, yeah,

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Speaker 4: That's okay's cut one, cut one.

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Speaker 2: So actually, guys, bring down cut one a minute. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: I know we skipped a little bit, but because I

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Speaker 3: think anyone who was looking at what was going on

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Speaker 3: at these No Kings rallies not only on just Long Island,

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Speaker 3: Like there was it was a majority of old white

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Speaker 7: Those were the precursors. Androbles.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was funny to me because you have

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Speaker 3: all these people going out, you know, they they're the

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Speaker 3: look at these rallies and it's like I said, it's

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Speaker 3: all old white women. And then we had a Patriot

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Speaker 3: party that night and I looked around and I was like,

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Speaker 3: this is the most diverse group of peoples.

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Speaker 6: It was.

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Speaker 7: It was young, it was it.

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Speaker 5: Was Asian, there was black, there was white, there was everything, old, young,

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Speaker 5: it was. That's that's what we welcome here.

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Speaker 2: So I did.

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Speaker 3: I did put a little clip together, this brilliant one.

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Speaker 3: If you guys could cueue it up, and then we'll

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Speaker 5: If you want videos made for you, she's.

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Speaker 8: For you.

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Speaker 1: Make a marda gray because there God said, trusts, God bless.

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Speaker 2: The USA, the United Estates.

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Speaker 6: Everybody was in.

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Speaker 8: The visible.

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Speaker 3: Justine for a fifty great states.

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Speaker 5: And that's how happy patriots are, like just happy, celebrating

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Speaker 5: all the time. And that's why when you know, as

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Speaker 5: as a Patriot group leader, and everyone was calling us

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Speaker 5: last week and saying are you going to count for

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Speaker 5: they were emailing here, Are we going to go counter?

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Speaker 5: I said, absolutely not. I told the Patriots to stand down.

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Speaker 5: I thought myself, my own opinion. I think I thought

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Speaker 5: it was a set up, like a Jay six setup.

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Speaker 3: And I told you saw that it was all geriatrica seriously,

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Speaker 5: But I said, we're going to be celebrating Donald Trump

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Speaker 5: and Flagg Day and the two and fiftieth birthday of

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Speaker 5: the Army at the most page dratic venue in the planet.

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Speaker 5: I am not even giving credence. I didn't want anything

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Speaker 8: I felt the same way I love wrong De Santa

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Speaker 8: sen and Florida.

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Speaker 7: We're just giving me.

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Speaker 8: He was telling people, if you feel like you're in

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Speaker 5: Run over him over that sheriff. I want to get

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Speaker 5: him on our podcast, the one who basically said, if

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Speaker 5: you hurd the cops, you're going in and you know,

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Speaker 5: you go in to them mambulance and you're going to jail.

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Speaker 5: Or we'll tell you.

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Speaker 4: Going to the hospital and then you're going to go

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Speaker 5: Or if you really heard a cop.

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Speaker 5: I love what he said. The big beautiful dogs will

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Speaker 5: stiff them. And he said, you know then you will

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Speaker 5: be calling your family to pick up your remains.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we don't have that luxury.

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Speaker 5: No, but now.

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Speaker 4: I would hope to have it eventually.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we didn't want to spend too much time on

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Speaker 3: this because we have a very important episode tonight covering

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Speaker 3: a lot of the news that are going on, and Donna,

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Speaker 3: I'll hand it back to you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm so excited. I'm skipping ahead. Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean we are going to get into some

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Speaker 1: because it is always a foundational issue religious and freedoms

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Speaker 1: that give us all our other freedoms in this country.

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Speaker 1: But surrounding that locally, Newsday did and cut to if

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Speaker 1: we can pull that up, please, now we can pull

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Speaker 1: it up. Newsday had a big fun cover page saying

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Speaker 1: parents book pushback on vaccines. And there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: controversy because since COVID there's always been a culture of

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Speaker 1: people and parents who didn't vaccinate. Since COVID, most people

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Speaker 7: Yeah, then I don't even like to go to the

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Speaker 4: I have to, but well it's hard to it's hard.

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Speaker 1: It's you want to feel like you can trust who

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Speaker 1: if you don't have health. So that's like a foundational

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Speaker 4: And our system has been so broken for so many years.

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Speaker 1: to start raising some serious eyebrows. Absolutely, So I love

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I think there's a lot of talk right

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Speaker 3: paying attention last week, RFK Junior fired all seventeen CDC

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Speaker 7: I love that.

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Speaker 1: And there's a reason for that. There's a good reason

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Speaker 1: I love, love, love, love that he has refreshed that

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Speaker 5: Yes, imagine when Fauci had the audacity not too long ago,

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Speaker 7: The lies that man. Yeah, you know that came out

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Speaker 2: Do you want to read the post? I put a

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Speaker 3: I didn't put the entire post in there, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: post that RFK Junior put on X.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, RFK said, I retired the seventeen current members of

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Speaker 1: the committee. I'm now repopulating a SIP with the eight

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Speaker 1: new members who will attend ASIP's scheduled June on the

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Speaker 1: twenty fifth scheduled June twenty fifth meeting. The slate includes

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Speaker 1: highly credentialed scientists, leading public health experts, some of America's

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Speaker 1: most accomplished physicians. All of these individuals are committed to

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Speaker 1: evidence based medicine, gold standard science, and common sense. So

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Speaker 1: there's a list of the new members. Joseph Hibbelin, Martin Cauldorf,

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Speaker 1: Retzef Levy Or Levi, Robert Malone, Cody Meisner, James Pagano,

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Speaker 1: Vicky Pebsworth, and Michael Ross. I mean, these are noteworthy

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Speaker 1: people with incredible experience and a lot of TENAC.

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Speaker 4: So it's exciting.

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Speaker 3: And the boys just had Robert Malone on their podcast,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys watch.

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Speaker 5: It was great, yep'd from our website. Absolutely, and I

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Speaker 6: Well, thank you for inviting me. I love your show.

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Speaker 6: It's like the Patriot Women's answer to the view.

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Speaker 5: We're coming to their jobs.

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Speaker 9: Right Well, it was what happened to my son in

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Speaker 6: This is a liberty issue. It is a case remote

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Speaker 9: The most important right is the right to autonomy, the

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Speaker 9: Because you know, if you can't, you weren't free to

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Speaker 1: Well, so in nineteen eighty five you helped co author

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Speaker 9: And that's you know, The topic today is really about

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Speaker 9: The right of the individual and minorities is what puts

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Speaker 9: Rejected rejected that COVID federal COVID mandate for school children because.

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Speaker 3: our favor right because we have President Trump, But is

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Speaker 3: it a slippery slope because we don't know who the

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Speaker 3: And then further down the rock, further down the line,

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Speaker 3: and then the Supreme Court gets involved again. That's why

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Speaker 3: it becomes a slippery slope. Right now, we're okay, you know,

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Speaker 3: we're holding the card sort of speak. But in four

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Speaker 3: years from now, we don't know, right, So to have

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Speaker 3: the federal government come in, yeah, understand.

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Speaker 6: You've nailed it.

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Speaker 9: Okay, the executive order could be repealed by the next president,

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Speaker 9: So I understand, and my heart goes out to the

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Speaker 9: families in those four states that don't do that.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 9: The legislature was wrong to do that. But the permanent

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Speaker 9: solution is not to put a band aid on it

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Speaker 9: and try to do a workaround with an executive order

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Speaker 9: the US Attorney involved, because you could, like I say,

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Speaker 9: you don't know what's going to happen.

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Speaker 6: Once you open that.

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Speaker 1: So the answer really is to get down and dirty

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Speaker 1: in your state and do the hard work. Otherwise you

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Speaker 1: might be screwing it up for everyone else. So we'll

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Speaker 1: talk more about that when we come back from our

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Speaker 1: commercial break with Barbara Fisher. Thanks for watching in State

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Speaker 1: Patriots Podcast. We're in segment three. We have Barbara low Fisher.

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Speaker 1: If you're just joining she's from the National Vaccine Information

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Speaker 1: Center co founder and president, Barbara. We're happy that you've

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Speaker 1: stayed with us through this break. Before we left, we

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Speaker 1: heard from you about you know, why it's so important

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Speaker 1: that we keep the states with the ultimate control over

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Speaker 1: what they do and how they protect or not in

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Speaker 1: some cases like the four cases in New York.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, four states out of all fifty states, you got

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Speaker 3: four states that can't get on board with Yeah, religious

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Speaker 3: freedom right.

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Speaker 7: Yes, but how on them?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the importance of keeping that relegated to the

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Speaker 1: states and not doing the sweeping executive order. But we

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Speaker 1: did want to talk to you a little bit also

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Speaker 1: about the Religious Liberty Commission that was put into place

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Speaker 1: by President Trump in May. And you know their role

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Speaker 1: and how do you see if you have any thoughts

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Speaker 1: or opinions about how you see their role helping hurting,

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Speaker 1: you know, and any words of caution regarding that with

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Speaker 1: what we face here today with religious freedom and then

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Speaker 1: of course how that impacts medical freedom and bodily autonomy

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Speaker 1: and sovereignty.

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Speaker 9: Well, the Religious Liberty Commissions mandate is to look at

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Speaker 9: threats to religious liberty in our country and to make

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Speaker 9: recommendations on how that can be remedied. And one of

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Speaker 9: the issues is in the area of public health, although

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Speaker 9: it's not really a main emphasis, but the reason that

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Speaker 9: we wrote a letter was that this other letter had

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Speaker 9: gone out urging this present this executive order, and we

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Speaker 9: and federal action, and we have been working so hard

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Speaker 9: in the states to make these permanent changes in the

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Speaker 9: state public health laws that include vaccine laws, because, as

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Speaker 9: I said, vaccine laws are state laws according to the

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Speaker 9: Tenth Amendment and the separation of powers between the state

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Speaker 9: and federal government.

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Speaker 6: And we're very concerned about.

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Speaker 9: The federal government because we know overreach is very quickly

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Speaker 9: becomes the policy whenever you get the federal government involved.

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Speaker 9: So we are urging the Religious Liberty Commission to refrain

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Speaker 9: from recommending to President Trump that there be an executive

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Speaker 9: order or that there be federal intervention into state public

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Speaker 9: health law.

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Speaker 1: And I think, so, how can listeners and viewers get

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Speaker 1: involved and help support that effort?

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Speaker 6: Yes? On mbiic dot org. I just I think what

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Speaker 6: have you mentioned before?

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Speaker 9: I have done a forty minute commentary that details what

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Speaker 9: Jacobs and versus Massachusetts was about and why it underpins

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Speaker 9: all public health policy making. It is the anchor for

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Speaker 9: public health policy making one hundred and twenty years, so

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Speaker 9: it will educate you about why this is so important

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Speaker 9: to stop. We have the letter that we've written to

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Speaker 9: the Religious Liberty Commission on MBIC dot org and the

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Speaker 9: addendum that specifically addresses the executive order, and we urge

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Speaker 9: you to share this information with your family and friends,

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Speaker 9: your legislators at the federal and state level, to thought

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Speaker 9: leaders in your community so people can really understand that

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Speaker 9: they need to get involved. We have an MVIC Averagey

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Speaker 9: portal at MVIC Advocacy dot org. That portal has been

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Speaker 9: in operation since twenty ten. It has been the organizing

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Speaker 9: tool in the States, and you are able to go

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Speaker 9: in there.

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Speaker 6: It's free, and you're able with one.

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Speaker 9: Clique to get in touch with your elected representatives and

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Speaker 9: make your voice heard. You'll have all of their contact

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Speaker 9: information one clique and will be also post positions on.

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Speaker 9: I think there was over six hundred MAXIM related laws

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Speaker 9: being proposed in the States that we covered and took

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Speaker 9: positions on, and we have a two to three ratio

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Speaker 9: now of good vaccine related bills compared to that bad

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Speaker 9: vaccine deplanted bills. It works if we all get involved,

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Speaker 9: we can protect our freedom and are ultimateal.

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Speaker 6: There should be no vaccine mandates.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, we shouldn't have to take anyone for an exemption,

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Speaker 9: a religious exemption, a medical exemption, which almost nothing.

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Speaker 6: Qualifies as a medical exemption. We shouldn't have to do that.

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Speaker 9: We should have the right to have full information make

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Speaker 9: a voluntary decision about any medical intervention that carries the

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Speaker 9: risk of injuria death.

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Speaker 8: Yep.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well we certainly certainly agree with that.

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Speaker 1: So with the states and some of the work that

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Speaker 1: different people in your organization has helped put forward. With

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Speaker 1: all of this access and information, you know, are what

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Speaker 1: are people doing in their states to help move things

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Speaker 1: along and put forward these great bills, Like are they

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Speaker 1: getting codified into the constitutions and state?

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Speaker 4: How is it working?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 9: It Basically what happens is this is an educational process.

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Speaker 9: This is this is changing public opinion, and it's it's

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Speaker 9: educating legislators one on one, developing personal relationships with thought leaders.

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Speaker 6: And with particularly with legislators.

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Speaker 9: That's how we've gotten vaccine legislation passed in the states.

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Speaker 9: So it's it's legislation, it's bills that we get passed

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Speaker 9: and then they become the.

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Speaker 6: Law of the state. We're working on bills right now.

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Speaker 9: We're trying to protect vaccine exemptions and are doing a

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Speaker 9: very good job of it. But our ultimate goal is

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Speaker 9: to uh to take down these vaccine mandates that have

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Speaker 9: been so oppressively implemented in this country. You know, in

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Speaker 9: some states religious belief exemption you have to belong to

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Speaker 9: a church and as a tenant opposing vaccination. Well, vaccination

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Speaker 9: was not developed until after the.

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Speaker 6: Bible, after all, making religions were formed.

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Speaker 9: So there's a lot of work to be done in

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Speaker 9: terms of educating our public about why this is so

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Speaker 9: important to protect bodily integrity, have the right to protect

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Speaker 9: body integrity and autonomy and make these informed decisions about vaccination.

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Speaker 1: So what is the journey from VIC on your work

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Speaker 1: been since COVID. I would imagine this was a big

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Speaker 1: pull vaulted you in some sense just because there was

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Speaker 1: such a greater awareness. But I'd be curious to hear

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Speaker 1: from you what that journey's been since.

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Speaker 6: The opposite happened.

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Speaker 9: What happened was we had a target on our back

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Speaker 9: where the oldest organization that has been doing this work,

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Speaker 9: and they took us out first on the internet. All

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Speaker 9: my commentaries for fifteen years taken off of YouTube. We

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Speaker 9: were taken off all for major social media platforms so

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Speaker 9: nobody could get our information. The only one is put

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Speaker 9: us back on is X when Elon Musk purchased X.

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Speaker 6: Thank you wish our right to speak on X.

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Speaker 9: But we are Lifetime band on YouTube, Facebook and Instagram.

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Speaker 9: Censorship is still alive. And well, we're on a blacklist,

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Speaker 9: the government's blacklist. And unfortunately, even with President Trump in power,

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Speaker 9: we have not been taken off that blacklist.

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Speaker 2: You are I had a Lifeloe band.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, how about how about Rumble Truth Social.

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Speaker 9: We are on Rumble. Those are the B tier platforms.

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Speaker 9: We're on mee wee, We're on gab, but we're not

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Speaker 9: on the major social media platforms is where everybody goes right, right?

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Speaker 1: I mean it's remarkable because I know you were on

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Speaker 1: major network news decades ago, speaking very openly and very

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Speaker 1: easily about these things.

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Speaker 4: Isn't that right?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 9: I In nineteen ninety seven, I debated Neil Halsey from

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Speaker 9: Johns Hopkins. For the first time, I articulated the informed

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Speaker 9: consent ethic when pertaining to vaccination. No one had ever

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Speaker 9: done that. I also I also brought up the chronic

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Speaker 9: these vaccines were giving our children were setting them up

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Speaker 9: for chritic disease later in life.

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Speaker 6: That was nineteen ninety seven.

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Speaker 7: Wow, oh bless you.

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Speaker 2: I have a question.

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Speaker 3: So I just want to go back to the Religious

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Speaker 3: Liberty Commission. I know yesterday they held their first meeting

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Speaker 3: at the Museum of the of the Bible in Washington,

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Speaker 3: and when I looked into it, it looked like the

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Speaker 3: whole premise of that meeting was to go back into

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Speaker 3: I guess the first day of the meeting was to

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Speaker 3: go back to our history of the founding of our

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Speaker 3: founding fathers and how they founded this country, and it

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Speaker 3: was because they were escaping religious persecution. So when I

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Speaker 3: looked at also the players that President Trump has on

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Speaker 3: this committee, besides like Ben Carson, Franklin Graham, I know,

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Speaker 3: there's a reverend, you know, people that represent different religions,

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Speaker 3: and there's also an expert on the US Constitution who

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Speaker 3: has argued before the Supreme Court before and who heads

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Speaker 3: the First Liberty Institute, as well as a top appellate lawyer.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this is a silly.

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Speaker 3: Question, but is there a way for them to put

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Speaker 3: into federal law that it can't be undone, It can't

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Speaker 3: even go to the Supreme Court for them for them

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Speaker 3: to overturn, Like do you think that that's where they're

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Speaker 3: headed with this religious.

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Speaker 2: Liberty commissions?

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Speaker 9: Remember they are the tenth Amendment that assigns powers to

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Speaker 9: have assigned powers to the under government versus the states.

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Speaker 9: Because we have splie form of government. This would to

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Speaker 9: try to do a federal vaccine law in effect, I

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Speaker 9: think it's going to be very very difficult.

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Speaker 6: For example, after.

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Speaker 9: Nine to one one when the Mile Stay held, the

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Speaker 9: Bertsy Powers Act was proposed by well Lawrence Gossen at

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Speaker 9: Georgetown University was paid by the CDC to develop this.

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Speaker 9: They had to go state by state in order to

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Speaker 9: expand the public health emergency powers at the state level.

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Speaker 9: So I think it would be very difficult for there

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Speaker 9: to be a federal law that would govern public health

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Speaker 9: policy making.

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Speaker 2: That you are to put into the constitution. I'm saying.

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Speaker 9: The constitution. Well, I would love to see an informed

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Speaker 9: consentment and then constitution that wasn't just address or vous liberty,

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Speaker 9: but would address this whole issue of freedom, the freedom

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Speaker 9: to to have dominion over what you put in your body,

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Speaker 9: or we shouldn't have to obey the dictates of physicians

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Speaker 9: or anyone.

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Speaker 7: Who tells religious or medical or for whatever reason.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, it's medical rate. And I mean we've seen

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Speaker 4: I don't understand.

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Speaker 1: You know, people got very offended during COVID when some

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Speaker 1: people were talking about, you know, making similarities to Nazi

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Speaker 1: Germany and.

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Speaker 4: The forest medical right.

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Speaker 1: And the truth is the Nuremberg Code should have taken

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Speaker 1: care of this internationally. But how did we land back

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Speaker 1: here again? It's crimes against humanity.

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Speaker 9: No, it's really interesting you bring that up because Jacobs

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Speaker 9: and versus Massachusetts, this utilitarian ruling was actually used in

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Speaker 9: Buck versus Bell nineteen twenty seven. Oliver Wendell Holmes, one

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Speaker 9: of the probably the most famous Supreme Court jurists in history,

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Speaker 9: was on the court when Jacobs and versus Massachusetts was articulated.

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Speaker 6: I believe he was the one that authored it.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 9: He was on the court in nineteen twenty seven and

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Speaker 9: Buck versus Bill, which was a case of a young.

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Speaker 6: Woman in Virginia.

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Speaker 1: Barbara, I'm sorry, we have to go to commercial break,

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Speaker 1: so can we come and come back to that right

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Speaker 1: after that? Would you stay with us because we'd love

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Speaker 1: to finish sharing it. Thank you so much. We'll be

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Speaker 1: right back. Welcome back, everybody to the Patriots Podcast. We

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Speaker 1: just want to wrap up with Barbara Lowfisher from nviic

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Speaker 1: dot org. Barbara, could you just I'm sorry we had

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Speaker 1: to cut you off there for commercial break, but can

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Speaker 1: you just wrap up with that importance and the similarity

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Speaker 1: between what's been going on and COVID and Nazi Germany.

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Speaker 1: The Nuremberg rode all of it right well.

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Speaker 9: I was saying that the Jacobson versus Massachusetts decision that podified.

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Speaker 6: Into law that the states can force.

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Speaker 9: People to get vaccinated to protect the public health was

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Speaker 9: used in nineteen twenty seven by the Supreme Court and

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Speaker 9: Buck versus.

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Speaker 6: Bell to basically.

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Speaker 9: Affirm eugenics and the forced sterilization of people that health

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Speaker 9: officials decided are a threat to the public health.

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Speaker 6: In fact, the statement was made.

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Speaker 9: The principle the sustains compulsory vaccination is broad enough to

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Speaker 9: cover cut in the filopian tubes, so Hitler actually took

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Speaker 9: this idea, this eugenics idea that really started in the

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Speaker 9: United States. Yes, and he took it and he applied

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Speaker 9: it in the Holocaust. So when you ever use the utility,

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Speaker 9: ism is slippery slope and it is the underpinning of

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Speaker 9: public health lawmaking in this country, which is why the

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Speaker 9: individual rights are devalued in service to the state. So

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Speaker 9: I think that we don't want to fool around potentially

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Speaker 9: in the wrong court at the wrong time, with the

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Speaker 9: wrong argument challenging Jacobson. And that's my concern is the

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Speaker 9: concern of a lot of people that were not quite

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Speaker 9: ready in the society yet there's not enough of an

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Speaker 9: education about the risks of failures of vaccines and the

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Speaker 9: need to back away from that as a centerpiece of

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Speaker 9: how we protect the society's health.

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Speaker 1: Well, we thank you so much for coming on with

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Speaker 1: us tonight and sharing your extreme immense knowledge and highlighting

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Speaker 1: you know, the real issues underpinning this newest threat that

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Speaker 1: we have. So we will be a champion to be

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Speaker 1: pointing people to NVIC dot org to support you your

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Speaker 1: work and to read and learn and share share that

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Speaker 1: knowledge and keep passing it on.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Barbara, It's been a pleasure to

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Speaker 4: have I.

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Speaker 5: Just I want to reach out to you. We're going

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Speaker 5: to get a commercial for you so our guests, our

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Speaker 5: viewers can see what you guys are doing and support you.

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Speaker 5: So we'll stay in touch and we can try to

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Speaker 5: help get the message out for you more.

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Speaker 6: Oh, bless you, thank you, welcome.

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Speaker 4: God bless you. Barbara. Have a great night. Thanks agaank

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Speaker 4: you Bye bye bye bye. She's amazing, isn't she a

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Speaker 4: wealth of knowledge?

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Speaker 7: She is a lot of all.

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Speaker 3: So all these organizations that are out there promoting that

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Speaker 3: or asking rather President Trump to get involved and have

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Speaker 3: the federal government get involved, they're not realizing that this

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Speaker 3: is a slippery slope.

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Speaker 1: Is that is that I think that people I think

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Speaker 1: a few things. I think that people want a quick

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Speaker 1: fix and they want to strike while the iron's hot,

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Speaker 1: which in some cases is a really smart thing to do.

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Speaker 1: But when you listen to seasoned, veteran, knowledgeable people like

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Speaker 1: Barbara on these kind of topics, you recognize the danger

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Speaker 1: in doing that. And this is another an example of

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Speaker 1: why you know, in any just because it's in your

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Speaker 1: favor for how you believe it doesn't mean you should

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Speaker 1: be championing and rallying behind a president, any president to

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Speaker 1: make massive executive orders that impact and undermine anyone's constitutional right.

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Speaker 5: To Trump doesn't want to be the president. That's just

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Speaker 5: you know, writing what he wants the American people. Were

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Speaker 5: you the people to step up to take over, fight

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Speaker 5: right and for and fight for what a constitution? We

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Speaker 5: have to do our part too.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, But it's important for MAGA people to hear this

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Speaker 1: and MAHA people to hear this. Just because it's a

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Speaker 1: quick direct shot doesn't mean it's the right shot.

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Speaker 8: Do you know when you look at you look at

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Speaker 8: the Awakening, it didn't happen overnight and it's still going on. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: it's not completed yet, it's still happening. It's the same thing.

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Speaker 8: It's the same theory, right.

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Speaker 3: I think the problem is, like we said, like as

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Speaker 3: of right now, the cards are in our hands, so

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Speaker 3: to speak, but we don't know four years down the road,

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Speaker 3: eight years down the road, how that will be and

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Speaker 3: if the Supreme Court will you know.

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Speaker 2: Take this old how many years old?

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Speaker 3: Nineteen oh five lawsuit of what is it Jacobson versus?

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Speaker 2: Oh, what we're just talking about.

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Speaker 3: Massachusetts Jacobson versus Massachusetts and use it to their advantage.

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Speaker 3: But I think also we wanted to highlight how many

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Speaker 3: times on this on this platform have we said that

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Speaker 3: the United States of America is not a democracy. As

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Speaker 3: much as everyone wants to tell you it's a democracy,

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Speaker 3: we are. It's not a democracy democracy. We are a

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Speaker 3: constitutional republic.

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Speaker 7: No king.

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Speaker 5: And the democracy is a majority vote.

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Speaker 2: It's a majority rule. So explain it.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, now, Well, how that works in a democracy

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Speaker 1: is if you have one hundred people and fifty one

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Speaker 1: of them think one thing, and forty nine of them

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Speaker 1: think something else, the fifty one rule and trample over

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Speaker 1: the forty nine.

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Speaker 2: And that's not freedom.

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Speaker 4: That's not freedom.

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Speaker 1: And a constitutional republic, the right of the individual shall

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Speaker 1: not be trampled upon by the mob, but the majority.

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Speaker 8: Anything ever, and one and the one percent still has

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Speaker 8: every single right that the ninety nine percent correct.

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Speaker 1: As long as you are not hurting me, feeling, murdering other, pizza, frauding,

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Speaker 1: you can't be taking someone else's right to you know, life, liberty,

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Speaker 1: the pursuit of happiness away.

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Speaker 4: In your suit of.

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Speaker 3: Yours given rights, you have human rights, inalienable, alliable rights.

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Speaker 3: And again I think they've tried to trick everyone through

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Speaker 3: throughout how many years now through language, language and democracy.

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Speaker 3: We're a democracy. No, we're not a democracy. We're a

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Speaker 3: constitutional republic. So everyone, you start looking into the difference

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Speaker 3: between what a democracy is and what a constitutional republic.

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Speaker 1: Is well, because the real issue is once you really

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Speaker 1: understand that if when our schools stop teaching civics, you know,

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Speaker 1: people got lost real fast, and you'll listen to any

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Speaker 1: voice that you that gets in front of you. So

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Speaker 1: in the advent of you know, we know there's this

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Speaker 1: undermining of America that's been going on for decades. They

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Speaker 1: don't want a free, strong America. And so that you know,

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Speaker 1: as you see these things happen, you see slowly people

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Speaker 1: in office, people on for this administration at the the

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Speaker 1: what's when they get the day that they get sworn

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Speaker 1: in and the whole gration.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, the inauguration brain freeze. That's right at the inauguration.

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Speaker 1: Like when you heard people that were there for this inauguration,

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Speaker 1: big Trump supporters, big freedom, constitutionalist conservatives there they were

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Speaker 1: calling us a democracy.

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Speaker 7: Am I correct?

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Speaker 8: I'm sorry to interrupt, Am I correct in saying that

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Speaker 8: democracy is not even a word in our constitution.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's not.

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Speaker 5: No, it's okay, mind control to make everybody believe that

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Speaker 5: if you say it enough times, it's we're democracy. And

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Speaker 5: it sounds benign. People don't realize that the majority vote

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Speaker 5: is no good. But it sounds good, right, It sounds

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Speaker 5: like it's not tyrannical if you do it that way.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 1: So it's so important the education, as Barbara was saying before,

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Speaker 1: and not just on these issues and topics that we

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Speaker 1: were discussing with Barbara that are related to health and

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Speaker 1: freedom and sovereignty, but all topics, everything that.

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Speaker 4: You can look at.

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Speaker 1: You know, we have to start re educating our youth

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Speaker 1: and our and our children, and our and our constituents

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Speaker 1: and the people in office system.

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Speaker 5: Because free thrives. Why, that's why.

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Speaker 3: But democracy does not equal freedom. Democracy equals slavery.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it does, it does. It was a pretty boone

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Speaker 5: on top of it.

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Speaker 4: It certainly does.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 1: This episode has gone so quickly, we only have a

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Speaker 1: few minutes left.

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Speaker 8: But it's been very it's been a good one. It's

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Speaker 8: been a good one. If it doesn't start to open

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Speaker 8: your eyes and your mind to what goes on, you

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Speaker 8: need to take another look, because well, it's well made world.

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Speaker 7: We're in right now, right.

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Speaker 1: And it's well meaning people that sometimes lead us down

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Speaker 1: a path of destruction. You know, the greatest, the greatest

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Speaker 1: intentions of all time are if they're not right, they're wrong,

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Speaker 1: and they don't.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'm crazy, but I still have a little bit

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Speaker 3: of hope in this Religious Liberty Commission, and maybe they

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Speaker 3: just don't know how the law works.

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Speaker 5: Trump Trump doesn't just select people have gasually, they're they're

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Speaker 5: here to do a job. There's a reason why they're

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Speaker 5: on that commission. And I think that they're going to

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Speaker 5: do the right thing. Yeah, doctor Malone put his life

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Speaker 5: on the road.

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Speaker 2: I know they would do the right thing.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know if legally, if they can do

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Speaker 3: the right thing.

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Speaker 8: They're a commission though they advise they're not law making.

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Speaker 3: But again, four years down the road, there's going to

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Speaker 3: be another commander in chief who's appointing a new commission.

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Speaker 2: Right, so it is a stay.

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Speaker 5: Tuned Hopefully we'll be able to report back on a

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Speaker 5: later date. You know on our show that it's in

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Speaker 5: our favor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and just keep educating, keep talking, talk to everyone,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's it And educate them to the to

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Speaker 1: the realities of what we're dealing with and the dangers

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Speaker 1: and where they can get well informed information, accurate information.

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Speaker 1: Keep fighting, guys, because just because we have everything in

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Speaker 1: our favor right now, there's so much going on that

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Speaker 1: we need to stay on top of and keep plugging along,

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Speaker 1: especially in states like New York.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, do we have any announcements too.

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Speaker 5: But we're a little slow right now. Friday Nights Live

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Speaker 5: from zero six B. Come on down. It's free, it's

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Speaker 5: a lot of fun, so come join us on Friday.

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Speaker 5: It's on the website. But we do have Bobby here

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Speaker 5: from Freeminds Thrive and I'm gonna read something quick. He

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Speaker 5: is a family man devoted on a mission to help

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Speaker 5: people take control of their lives and minds by putting health, truth,

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Speaker 5: and personal freedom first. I love that your health is

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Speaker 5: your wealth, and without it, everything else suffers. Good health

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Speaker 5: is about more than what you put in your body

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Speaker 5: and mind. And there's there's more, and we're gonna he's

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Speaker 5: gonna be on next week, but I have to we'll

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Speaker 5: say really quick.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 5: I had horrendous like sun poisoning that nothing was working

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Speaker 5: on and Saturday night here at an event. We had

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Speaker 5: Bobby here, you know, as a vendor, and Shannon's mom

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Speaker 5: was like, you have to try this cream, but nothing

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Speaker 5: was working, and I.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's beef tallow. Did we say that already? It

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Speaker 2: is beef tallow.

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Speaker 5: And it's with the other matches, beeswax and organic olive oil,

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Speaker 5: organic beeswax.

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Speaker 2: And people this tallow stuff.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm going to tell you something I left here

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Speaker 5: Saturday night. I look like a snake. My skin was

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Speaker 5: brown and peeling.

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Speaker 3: In my mom I think my mom whatever, she was

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Speaker 3: like handing him out, and you get a beef tallow

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Speaker 3: and Angie gets because Angie's.

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Speaker 2: Got some funky stuff on a hand, and they're much better.

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Speaker 5: I wish I did it before and after because it

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Speaker 5: was incredible. So stay tuned for next week. He'll be

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Speaker 5: on with us. We'll talk more about it.

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Speaker 2: We're going to close out with Donna's beautiful prayer.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if we can.

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Speaker 5: It was hardless right, I know that's okay.

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Speaker 1: Heavenly Father, we come before you with grateful hearts. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for continuing to be with us and for us,

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Speaker 1: and not yet turning your back on America. We ask

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Speaker 1: that you continue to give discernment, to know truth, wisdom,

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Speaker 1: and to know how to approach circumstances with humility, and

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Speaker 1: to accept whatever it is that you do have for us. Lord,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the many who continue to fight for

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Speaker 1: goodness and righteousness. Please help us as we seek to

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Speaker 1: uphold the inherent and inalienable freedom that our country was

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Speaker 1: founded on, not because of who we are, but because

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Speaker 1: of who you are and how you created us.

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Speaker 4: Lord.

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Speaker 1: We know, based on your word, that we are to

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Speaker 1: be separate from the world, and that you separate the

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Speaker 1: wheat from the chaff. We ask that you bring a

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Speaker 1: spirit of unity to your people and cast down any

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Speaker 1: division that is not of you.

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Speaker 4: In Jesus' name, we pray.

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Speaker 5: Amen, and as always, keep your faith strong, your family clothes,

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Speaker 5: and your freedom alive. Thank you for tuning in. Catch

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Speaker 5: us on Spotify and iHeartRadio tomorrow.

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