1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: As we gear up for the biggest year in politics, 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: one thing we can all do now is start voting 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: with our wallets. By supporting brands and companies that share 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: your values, you're sending a message. It's like buying a 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: Team Jersey, and we're on Team Sanity. Our sponsors are too. 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: So before we get behind the candidates, let's get behind 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: the people. Our people, every day men and women who 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: have started businesses across the country, people just like you 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: and me. Support a Clan Buck sponsor and let your 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: voice be heard. The more of us that support them, 11 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: the louder or collective voice becomes. 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: This is twenty four, a weekly highlight reel from the Clay, 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things election coverage. 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 3: Let's get started. Here are Clay and Bucks. 15 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: Yesterday evening, I think it was about five o'clock Eastern. 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,319 Speaker 1: Shortly after this program ended, while Sean Hannity was on, 17 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: Chris Christy made the decision to end his pre an 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: inential campaign. 19 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 3: This is what it sounded like. 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 4: I've always said that if there came a point in 21 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 4: time in this race where I couldn't see a path 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 4: to accomplishing that goal, that I would get out, and 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 4: it's clear to me tonight that there isn't a path 24 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 4: for me to win the nomination, which is why I'm 25 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 4: suspending my campaign tonight for President of the United States. 26 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 4: It's the right thing for me to do because I 27 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 4: want to promise you this. I am going to make 28 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 4: sure that in no way do I enable Donald Trump 29 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 4: to ever be president of the United States again. And 30 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 4: that's more important than my own personal ambitions. 31 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So Chris Christy goes out, then Buck. I don't 32 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: know if this happened right beforehand or right after, but 33 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: this almost immediately overshadowed the actual announcement. Supposedly, Chris Christy 34 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: was caught on a live mic saying this. 35 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 4: People don't want to hear it. Wayne, they don't want 36 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 4: to hear it. We know we're right, but they don't 37 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 4: want to hear it. And and there's you know, we 38 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 4: couldn't have been any clearer, We couldn't have been any more, 39 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 4: any more, director worked any harder. 40 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 3: So you know, forget she spent sixty eight. 41 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we spent when you land the diner. 42 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: And places like that. Yeah, that's what you get. 43 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I mean, look, she spent sixty eight million 44 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 4: so far just on TV spent sixty eight million so far, 45 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 4: fifty nine million by DeSantis. 46 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: And we spent twelve. 47 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 4: Ye, I mean, who's punching above their weight and who's 48 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 4: getting a return on their investment? You know, And she's 49 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 4: going to get smoked and you and I both know it. 50 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 4: She's not up to this. 51 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 3: She's still twenty points. We kind of crump into my yeah. 52 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and he's gonna he's still going to carry right, yes, ah, 53 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: he's you know, I talked to it. 54 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 4: DeSantis called me petrified that I would be like getting 55 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 4: out would have to iola. 56 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 5: Well, okay, so it's pretty good stuff, by the way, 57 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 5: pretty good stuff in there. Do you remember, real quick, Clay, 58 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 5: you were a West wing guy right back in the 59 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 5: day to watch I watch, remember the the hot mic 60 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 5: moment when President Bartlett says, of some guy doesn't like 61 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 5: he's a twenty two caliber mind in a three fifty 62 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 5: seven magnum world, And that was the ooh, and then 63 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 5: you find out the end of the episode he knew 64 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 5: the mic was on. Yes, I have a hard time. 65 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 5: This is the first thing comes to mind for me. 66 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 5: I think Chris Christy knew there was a hot mic there. 67 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 5: I don't think he's that undisciplined about media that he 68 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 5: didn't know, because think about what he's saying. He's getting 69 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,279 Speaker 5: to talk, he's taking a victory lap, he's trashing his opponents. 70 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 5: He said it sounded like something you'd say, she's gonna 71 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 5: get smoked. 72 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, well so here, yeah, here is what I always 73 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: think about the hot mic situation. When someone has a 74 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: hot mic and they say everything that they would probably 75 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: say if they had no restrictions, and they come off 76 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: looking better, I never buy that they didn't know a 77 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: hot mic was there. Yep, right, And I always say, 78 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: this is an easy way to track, like who is 79 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: the leaker? You know, there's always the question of like, oh, 80 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: this story's out, Like most of the time you can 81 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: figure out who's likely to have leaked something based on 82 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: who benefits from the leak, right when there's anonymous sources 83 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: involved in everything else. So I don't think that this 84 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: was accidental. If if there have been a hot mic 85 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: come out and Chris Christy said something that he that 86 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: you didn't want to go out, and you thought to 87 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: my yourself, oh yeah, maybe that maybe that's not the 88 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: situation you would expect I don't know. I mean, everybody's miked, 89 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: and you and I are used to this at this point. 90 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: I don't know how many hours a day I'm on 91 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: a mic. I mean five or six sometimes, I mean 92 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: easily live mics, whether it's television obviously this show, there's 93 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: a mic in front of us all day long, every day. 94 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: I always say, live mics are problems when you sound 95 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: different than you would in real life, and when you're 96 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: putting on a show like an artificial version of yourself. 97 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: Otherwise people are fine. You know, people are gonna say, yeah, 98 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: that's kind of what I would expect Clay Travis to say, 99 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: because he said kind of remember all the time it's scripted, 100 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: but in yeah, we sound exactly the same, especially if 101 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: people like come up to us in real life. Maybe 102 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: there's sometimes a little bit of saltier language, but other 103 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: than that, it's it's exactly the same. Do you remember 104 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: in thirty Rock when the Tina Fay character who's playing 105 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: the head writer on sn now effectively that's such a 106 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: good based and she has an open mic and she 107 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: trashes the whole crew. Yeah, that's an open mic moment. 108 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: She's like, so and so is not doing this and 109 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: he's not doing that, and they're so braazy. And there's 110 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: you know this with Chris Christie to me, way too cute, 111 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: Nicky Hayley's gonna get smoked. 112 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 5: Ron's calling me groveling like the whole thing. It just 113 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 5: strikes me as look he's in this. It's a vendetta, man. 114 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 5: I mean this is old this is old school New Jersey. 115 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 5: I'm gonna get you from Chris Christy. Did you see 116 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 5: it as something else? 117 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 3: No? No, No, I don't disagree at all. 118 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say the problem here that I 119 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: see is Chris Christie said I'm gonna do everything in 120 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: my power to keep him from being president or I'm 121 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: paraphrasing him there. He doesn't have much power, you know, 122 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: Like I'm sitting there, like, what can Chris Christy do 123 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: at this point to stop Donald Trump from being president? 124 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: My takeaway there is when he run as an independent? 125 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: That was That was my actual takeaway. And I don't 126 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: know how the ballot would like for no labels or 127 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: something like that. 128 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 3: Could he take that on? That actually was my takeaway. 129 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 5: You know, I sit here and I know that right now. 130 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 5: For those of you who live a very online life, 131 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 5: which is very few of you, fortunately, but Clay and 132 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 5: I you know, we do. 133 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 3: It's part of the part of the job comes with 134 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 3: the territory. 135 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 5: People are very tense right now about the primary, and 136 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 5: there's a little bit of lashing out going on about 137 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 5: different candidates here and there, and I just you know, 138 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 5: I've done this. I've been through this before in primaries, 139 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 5: covering it and trying to be you know, even handed 140 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 5: in so far as I'm being honest right, like I 141 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 5: said yesterday, Am I somebody who's a big fan of 142 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 5: Nicky Haley's I mean comparatively to other candidates. No, but 143 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 5: I would vote for Nicky Haley over Joe Biden. And 144 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 5: so I bring this up because you never want to 145 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 5: do something where you know, the bridge is fully burned 146 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 5: in a. 147 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: Primary or otherwise. Not just in the media, I think, 148 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: I think in general it's a good rule for life. 149 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: A lot of people want at this last minute there 150 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: to be like all in and just tear down some candidate. 151 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: They're terrible, they're a bad person, they're not a patriot, 152 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: or whatever about the one candidate they really don't like, 153 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: whether it's the Santis or Trump or Haaliy or whomever. 154 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: I just don't think that's constructive. Like, the people are 155 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: about to vote, We're gonna see how they do in Iowa. 156 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna find out, and the voice of the people 157 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: will be heard, you know what I mean. I don't 158 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: see anything I try to try. 159 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 5: To, like kneecap somebody here in the last moment by 160 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 5: going all in to try to get some last minute 161 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 5: push for your guy. 162 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: I just think that that's in a primary, that's kind 163 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: of in a general, that's a different story. Yeah, especially when, 164 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: let's be honest, assuming that we get Trump versus Biden, 165 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: and I understand all the people out there. 166 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 3: You're getting people riled up right now. I understand all 167 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 3: the people. We haven't even voted yet. 168 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: That's my angry pain, angry voice of the Internet masses 169 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: who get upset because the voting hasn't even started yet. 170 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: But assuming we get Trump Biden, which would be the 171 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: expectation right now, again, I think that the Democrats may 172 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: break the glass. I've been arguing that for some time. 173 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: But let's just presume it's Trump be Biden. Particularly on 174 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: the Republican side, I think every single person who ran 175 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four will run again in twenty twenty eight, 176 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: because Trump is either going to be eighty one and 177 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: out of the picture or he's going to have finished 178 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: his term. And by twenty twenty six, I mean really soon, 179 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: the ramp up regardless is going to start because there's 180 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: not going to be an incumbent in office. 181 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 5: So we have obviously Chris Christy out. One thing I 182 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 5: wanted to ask you, and we didn't coordinate this before, 183 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 5: And I'm just curious, which was the first of the 184 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 5: two programs you went to, and did you watch both 185 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 5: or either of them live? The Trump town Hall and 186 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 5: then just forever listening and the Cky Haley versus Ronda 187 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 5: Santa CNN debate. 188 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: I started on CNN because it's two people, and I'm 189 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you. Fifteen minutes in, I was like, 190 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: this is super boring. I just the one on one 191 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: debate between Nicky Haley and Ron DeSantis. I thought, compared 192 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: to DeSantis, Newsom was just not that interesting and it 193 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: felt kind of boring. So I flipped over to the 194 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: town hall, and I gotta give him credit. I thought 195 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: Trump was absolutely phenomenal in the town hall. He was relaxed, 196 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: he was likable, he was funny, he was interesting, he 197 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: was entertaining. 198 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: This was Trump at his best. 199 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: I thought with Fox News Live he wasn't particularly inflammatory. 200 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: I thought he answered questions really well. I think he 201 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: does better with live audience like questions than he does 202 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: with the moderator questions, if that makes sense. I think 203 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: he shows more respect for the general person than he 204 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: does for the media person. 205 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 5: He's not gonna deam roll Bob the construction worker or 206 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 5: Sally the nurse at the hospital when they ask a question. 207 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 5: He's very good about I want to hear what you 208 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 5: have to say. If you're even trying to interview Trump, 209 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 5: I will say, as a challenge, it's uh, he's he's 210 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 5: going in a direction. It's it's like you're the uh, 211 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 5: you're the rodeo clown at the rodeo trying to keep 212 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 5: the bull from getting out of the pen. Like Trump 213 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 5: does whatever he wants to do in interviews, it's very 214 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 5: hard to slow him down or direct him. And I 215 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 5: would say, for me, by the way, I I was 216 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 5: did you want to you didn't know? 217 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 6: What? 218 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 3: How did you watch? Same? Same? 219 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 5: I mean I I went to the debate first because 220 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 5: I thought, oh more fireworks and I figured I'd watched 221 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 5: the Trump town hall on delay, and I ended up 222 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 5: switching over earlier, and and I look, I think that 223 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 5: that's pretty much the consensus opinion, and that Trump was 224 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 5: very entertaining and was very affable, which is one of 225 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 5: his political strengths. He's just he just comes across. Even 226 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 5: people I think who are being honest will say that 227 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 5: he is very good at being ingratiating and being entertaining. Now, 228 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 5: whether that should make him president or not, it's a 229 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 5: whole other conversation. But the Nicky Haley Ron DeSantis thing, 230 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 5: I don't know. I come at this with a bias 231 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 5: and that I'm not a big I don't really understand 232 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 5: much of the Nikki. I understand who likes Nicki Haley. 233 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 5: I just wish that they would think of things differently. 234 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 5: I suppose, but I thought she had a really bad 235 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 5: night overall. I thought Nicki Haley came across this whole. 236 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 5: She said fourteen times, go to desantislies dot com, like 237 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 5: they made a website of how much he lies. 238 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 3: I went to the site, and. 239 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 5: I gotta tell you, there are some things on there 240 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 5: where okay, like maybe Ron's playing a little fast and 241 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 5: loose or I should say it's debatable. But there are 242 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 5: other things I'm like, that's not a lie, like he states, 243 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 5: you know, basically in a pace. I hate when people 244 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 5: do this, when there's something that's debatable or an opinion, they're. 245 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 3: Like, you're lying. 246 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: No, not a lie, you just don't like what I'm saying. 247 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: And she did that to Ron a lot. Also, there 248 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: are things you can attack Ron DeSantis for being good 249 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: with facts is to me, not one of them, right. 250 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of politicians. I think 251 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: Joe Biden lies all the time, and I don't think 252 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is particularly smart about the way he lies, 253 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: Like he's just kind of ham handed and messy about it. 254 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: I think Trump is bullying a china shop. I think 255 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: he's just sometimes fast and loose with everything that he says. 256 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: I think he gets to the right place, but he 257 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: just knocks over tons of stuff in the process. And 258 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: then DeSantis to me, actually seems at times blandly anti 259 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: lying right, like just not enough sizzle on the stake 260 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: that he's got right. But that seems really misguided to 261 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: me that Nicky Haley would go after Ron DeSantis on 262 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: the idea that he tells a lot of lies. I 263 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: agree with you, and say it over and over and 264 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: over again, repetitively. I don't know intellectually how they would 265 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: break down. I'll probably get in trouble for saying this, 266 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: but I'm just gonna bulldoze through it anyway. I think 267 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis is in a different class intellectually than Nicky 268 00:12:59,520 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: Haley is. 269 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 3: WHOA Clay went there? Okay, I think this out there. 270 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: That's when I watched the debate. I mean, Newsom is smart. 271 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: I think I think he's a real wire. I thought 272 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: that Ron DeSantis was in a different intellectual category with 273 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: Nicky Haley head to head last night. 274 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 5: Can I put out there for right now, for this hour, 275 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 5: I would love to get anyone listening who vehemently disagrees 276 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 5: with any assessment that we have right here, whether it's 277 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 5: Clay's idea is inevitable, yes, me saying Nicky Haley had 278 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 5: a bad night. 279 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 3: I don't want anyone calling in for. 280 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 5: This hour to tell us how right we are, although 281 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 5: we do love you, and you are all geniuses who 282 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 5: feel that way. But anyone who wants to call in 283 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 5: and really light us, I mean this, light us up 284 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 5: on one of these things because to me, I thought, 285 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 5: Nicky Haley had a terrible night last night. I mean, 286 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 5: not that it really matters, because I don't think she's 287 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 5: going to be president, so who cares, you know? I thought, 288 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 5: I think Ron. 289 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: Is always steady, He's always solid, He's always Ron. But 290 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: he's not a breakout performance guy. He's a he does 291 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: what he does guy. He's a sports analogy Buck. He 292 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: is the guy who's going to get you the first 293 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: down on third and one, but he's never going to 294 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: take it to the house. 295 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 7: If you're listening to twenty four The Year of Impact 296 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 7: with Clay and Buck. 297 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: We are joined by our friend Steven Miller, formerly senior 298 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: advisor in the Trump White House, and he's also the 299 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: founder of America First Legal. Steven, good to have you 300 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: on the program. 301 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 6: Thank you. 302 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 3: Great to be here. 303 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 6: As always, so. 304 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: We have guys, let's start with this one. We all 305 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: know the borders of total disaster. 306 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 3: Steven. 307 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: The good news is, I mean not that there's any 308 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: good news about this, but this audience very up to 309 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: speed on the numbers, the criminality, the lawlessness, and the 310 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: Biden administration's utter refusal to do anything meaningful about it. 311 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: Last night, we heard from President Trump about his proposals, 312 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: and here's one thing we talked to. There was a 313 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: talk of deportations, rapidly escalating the deportations. Here's what Trump said, 314 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: Play fifteen. How will you gather the several millions that 315 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: have already entered our country illegally and returned them to 316 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: their country of origin? 317 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 3: Great question. 318 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 8: It's not sustainable for our country. We have millions and 319 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 8: millions of people here. It is not sustainable. Did you 320 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 8: see in New York City with it getting the regular 321 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 8: students out and they're putting migrants in their place. 322 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 3: We are going to. 323 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 8: Have the largest deportation effort in the history of our country. 324 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 8: We're bringing everybody back to where they came from. 325 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 4: We have no. 326 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: Choice, We have no chills. 327 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 5: All right, Steven, you heard it from the man himself. 328 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 5: What would that look like? What would that deportation effort? 329 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 5: I mean, walk us through how that happens. 330 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 9: Yes, well, this is something, of course, that we've given 331 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 9: a great deal of thought to. And I'm speaking to 332 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 9: you now in my personal capacity When I say this, 333 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 9: I am one hundred percent confident that when President Trump 334 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 9: takes the oath of office, we will begin and initiate 335 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 9: the largest deportation operation, as he said, in the history 336 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 9: of our country. And the way this will be done 337 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 9: is by number one, involving and leveraging the enormous federal 338 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 9: assets at our disposal beyond the Border Patrol and ICE. 339 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 9: So right now, ICE has about six thousand deportation officers 340 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 9: as your starting point, that's not very many. That's you know, 341 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 9: New York City has thirty thousand copts. To put that 342 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 9: respective six thousand for the whole country. So you begin 343 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 9: by number one, taking HSI, which is the organization on 344 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 9: top of ICE, Home and Security Investigations, and you can 345 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 9: pull another probably ten eleven thousand guns and badges from HSI. 346 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 9: Then you go into the Department of Justice, well you 347 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 9: get CBP extra resources for interior operations. Then you go 348 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:19,239 Speaker 9: into DOJ, you pull from FBI atf DEA. Then you 349 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 9: go into from there your other departments and agencies that 350 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 9: have their own police forces. For example, even the National 351 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 9: Park Service has a significant police service. Then beyond that 352 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 9: is when you bring in the National Guard. And you 353 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 9: do this by going to each of the different states. 354 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 9: You know, just take a pick, right, you go to 355 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 9: say the governor of Alabama and you say, we need 356 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 9: to use your National guardsmen to carry out deportation operations 357 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 9: in and around your state. So it's not just in 358 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 9: the state they're coming from, but you try to do 359 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 9: it regionally for efficiency's sake, So like in the Southeast region, 360 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 9: you know, for example, and then you go to the 361 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 9: sheriffs and the police departments and using the authority is 362 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 9: delegated to the Secretary of Homeland Security, you're then able 363 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 9: to deputize those individuals as well. But the key for 364 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 9: efficiency's sake is that it has to be done under 365 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 9: the control of your most experienced deportation officers. In other words, 366 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 9: this isn't just like you show up and you say 367 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 9: to a group of people, all right, now you're immigration officers, 368 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 9: because it's an incredibly challenging, complicated and it's very data 369 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 9: driven knowing where the illegals are and what their case 370 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 9: disposition is. So you have experienced your best ice officers 371 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 9: running these teams that are blends of federal, state and 372 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 9: local and National Guard. For resources. Then, as we've talked 373 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 9: about before, you have to have staging facilities for outbound flights. 374 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 9: Right because you collect a group of people say you 375 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 9: cook to one hundred people one day in Alabama. They're 376 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 9: going to be from two dozen different countries. Each country 377 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 9: you have a different plane of different manifested, different everything. 378 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 9: So you have to have somewhere to hold these people 379 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 9: while you're waiting for these outbound flights and of course 380 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 9: dealing with all of the legal challenges other things that 381 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 9: are going to arise, which that brings me to my 382 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 9: next point, which is that the State Department has to 383 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 9: be also the leading edge of this. And one of 384 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 9: the things that I experience firsthand, but many people outside 385 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 9: of government I realized, is the State Department is the 386 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 9: tip of the spear in any deportation operation, in other words, 387 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 9: obtaining unconditional compliance from countries around the world. So those 388 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 9: tarmacs are always open to your aircraft. You pick up 389 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 9: the phone and they're ready to receive whatever plan that 390 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 9: you're sending. No games, no ball, no nothing countries. If 391 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 9: you let them, they will nickel and dime. 392 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 3: You over everything. 393 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 9: They will say, oh, we can only accept twenty right now, 394 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 9: or we can only accept fifteen right now, or we're 395 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 9: not going to give them travel documents, or we don't 396 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,239 Speaker 9: think this is a real citizen of our country. It's 397 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 9: not the right pass, but whatever you have to say, no, 398 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 9: you accept every single person we're sending back or consequences 399 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 9: are going to initiate immediately. The last thing I'll to 400 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 9: say about this is that you have to bring additional 401 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 9: authorities to theay. One of those that we talked about 402 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 9: before is the Alien Enemies Act, which gives you exbedted 403 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 9: deportation authority. Also, the expansion of exbedtor removal to the 404 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 9: full statutory window would help enormously as well too. And 405 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 9: then additionally, by using a Title forty two authority at 406 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 9: the border, that will free up an enormous amount of 407 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 9: resources in space to carry out these domestic deportation operations. 408 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 9: So it's not the complete answer, but it gives you 409 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 9: a sense about the kind of activity that we need 410 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 9: to be put into effect. And I can assure you 411 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 9: it will happen as surely as the sun rises in 412 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 9: the morning. If Donald Trump is the next president of 413 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 9: the United States, then this will happen. 414 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: Stephen, Obviously, the border is a unmitigated disaster. Did you 415 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: ever think in your wildest dreams that it would get 416 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: this bad? When Joe Biden came into all office, and 417 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: you're not exactly a guy who is singing Sunnyside Homilies 418 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: here on the border in the first place, right, But 419 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: even you, are you astounded that we're talking about you know, 420 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: six seven eight million illegals that we know of pouring 421 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: into this country and the record time unlike we've ever seen. 422 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: Even are you stunned by how bad it's gotten. 423 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 9: I'm stunned by the extent to which the Democrat Party 424 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 9: has been willing to sustain this pacific immigration, knowing the 425 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 9: extraordinary public blowback and pressure. I know there was I 426 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 9: thought that they might I thought that they might meeter 427 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 9: it just enough, because you know, for the media to 428 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 9: cover it, you know, six or seven thousand apprehensions a 429 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 9: day is an unmitigated catastrophe. They're now at you know, 430 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 9: ten eleven thousand apprehensions a day. The media, the corporate 431 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 9: media would ignore it at catastrophe levels. So there's a 432 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 9: state at catastrophe levels. The corporate media would ignore it. 433 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 9: They're at armageddon levels, so that even the liberal press 434 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 9: is covering it. That I did find a bit surprising. 435 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 9: But what I didn't find surprising at all is that 436 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 9: it happened because and I'm actually really glad you asked 437 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 9: the question, because I very rarely get to say this. 438 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 9: In the Trump administration, we knew that the whole paradigm 439 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 9: on the border had changed. That illegal immigration was no 440 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 9: longer just a Mexican issue, that it was one hundred 441 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 9: plus countries the smugglers and cartels had left into the 442 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 9: twenty first century, using social media, using networking apps to 443 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 9: facilitate mass illegal immigration. That they were able to use 444 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 9: very advanced and sophisticated intelligence tools. That the cartels were 445 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 9: more powerful than ever in the north of Mexico, and 446 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 9: that the cheapness of international transportation and the abibility of 447 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 9: the international transportation also changed the game. In other words, 448 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 9: a poor person today in a third world country can 449 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 9: probably still say, with enough money to get to a 450 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 9: an intermediate country, you know, say to get to Panama, 451 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 9: or even to get to Mexico City and then pay 452 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 9: the cartel for the rest of the way. This wasn't true. 453 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 9: And George Bush was in office, and so we understood 454 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 9: that if we didn't perform exceptionally and seamlessly on the border, 455 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 9: that the gates of hell would open up. And we 456 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 9: knew that, and so for me as a as a 457 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 9: private citizen. Then in early twenty twenty one, watching what 458 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 9: Biden was doing, my you know, my heart sank to 459 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 9: the floor. I was just just devastated because I understood 460 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 9: what would happen and what did happen. 461 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Yeah, Stephen Miller. 462 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and also Stephen, you were just kind of hitting 463 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: at that, but I was curious. One big part of 464 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: this storyline has been the Governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, 465 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: sending migrants to all of these sanctuary cities. 466 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 3: Would this be. 467 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: Something that maybe the Trump administration as a federal level 468 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: would do. It's a little bit different obviously than the state, 469 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: but that's obviously been very successful too, because it's made 470 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: it impossible for people who are in New York or 471 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: Chicago or Washington, d C. Who sit back and say, oh, 472 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: the border is not an issue. Their entire city is collapsing, 473 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: their budgets are falling apart. How does that impact going forward? 474 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 9: No, The answer is that when it comes to the border, 475 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 9: we're not going to do anything other than port to. 476 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: Port to port deportment. 477 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 9: That's the bottom line. And we now have we possess 478 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:44,719 Speaker 9: the skills, the knowledge, the bureaucratic know how the mastery 479 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 9: of the federal agencies, the strategies with the judiciary, and 480 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,479 Speaker 9: everything in between to be able to come in on 481 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 9: day one and put in place an enforcement regime that 482 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 9: no Western country in modern history has been able to matter. 483 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: Steven Mill everybody, Steven, thanks for being with us. Man, 484 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: appreciate it. 485 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 9: Thank you, God bless you soon. 486 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: You know here one big promise that was made last night. 487 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: Clay during the debate, just wanted to play this for everybody. 488 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, during the town hall, not the debate. When 489 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: Trump said this is cut thirty two, and he said 490 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: day one he's going to be a dictator on two things, 491 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: the border and energy. 492 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 3: Play it. 493 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 8: I said, I'm going to be a dictator for one day. 494 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 3: We're going to do two things. 495 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 8: The border, we're gonna make it so tight you can't 496 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 8: get in unless you come in legally. And the other's energy. 497 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 8: We're gonna drill, baby, drill. After that, I'm not gonna 498 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 8: be a dictator. After that, I'm not gonna be a dictator. 499 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 3: There you go. After that, He's not going to be 500 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 3: a dictator. 501 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 5: But those are two very important things in all seriousness, 502 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 5: the border and also what energy. If it was truly 503 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 5: remember the whether it's people that are going to be 504 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 5: doing oil and gas exploration, people that are setting up 505 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 5: the refinery operations for it Clay. They've got to project 506 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 5: far out into the future, right, It's not just something 507 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 5: that happens suddenly. So knowing that you have a four 508 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 5: year administration that's going to be really favorable because they're 509 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 5: not scared of Greta Thunberg shaming them at the UN 510 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 5: or something really favorable toward American energy independence I would 511 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 5: be huge, I think for the economy. So you secure 512 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 5: the border and you do that for energy, you're already 513 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 5: way ahead of where we are right now. 514 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: And also Buck, this comes back to what we've said 515 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: about the border for a long time. There are two 516 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: main incentives why people come illegally to the United States. 517 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: One is jobs, and that's a courtesy of capitalism in 518 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: the fact that we have created the greatest economic success 519 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: of a country and the history of the world. Okay, 520 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 1: so that's one that's hard to eliminate. Two, and Steven 521 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: has talked about this with us before. If you make 522 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: it harder for people to come here to get jobs, 523 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: that eliminates the incentive. Second part is we really have 524 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 1: to address the structural issue here, which is birthright citizenship 525 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: has to become a major point of debate in this country, 526 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: by which I mean just because you're born on the 527 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: soil here, if you are born as the result of 528 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: a crime, why should you be rewarded for that. That 529 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: is something that really needs to enter the American consciousness. 530 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: This is not a commonplace thing. Most of our rivals 531 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: in the world don't allow you to become a citizen 532 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: if you are born in their country. 533 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 3: Even if you're there legally. 534 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: And it makes zero sense that we would allow someone 535 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: to illegally enter the country, have a child, maybe eight 536 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: or nine months pregnant when they come in, and suddenly 537 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: their child is a citizen forever, and then you can't 538 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: deport the mom, you can't deport the dad. This is 539 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: a structural problem and an incentive that has to be addressed. 540 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 2: You're listening to twenty four The Most Important Tier in 541 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: Politics with Clay Travis and Box Sexton. 542 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 5: All right, everybody has promised. We've got the man himself 543 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 5: with us right now. Bill o'reiley eighteen number one best 544 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 5: selling books in the Killing series. The latest is Killing 545 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 5: the Witches, The horror of Salem, Massachusetts. I have it 546 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 5: here in my bookshelf. 547 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: It's excellent. Going to Billoreilly dot com for the No 548 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: Spin News. 549 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 6: Bill. 550 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 3: Great to have you back. Do you want to give us? 551 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 5: We got a lot, We got too much to talk 552 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 5: to you about today, not enough time. Let's jump into Monday 553 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 5: real quick. 554 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: What are your expectations and how do you think the 555 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: Iowa caucuses play out based on what we're seeing. 556 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 6: Well, I was listening to the last half hour of 557 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 6: your show and you were talking about the perception of 558 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 6: Trump and Biden in the election that doesn't have much 559 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 6: ado in Iowa. So the MAGA people are in charge 560 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,959 Speaker 6: of the caucus there and they can't be any cheating 561 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 6: because everybody goes in person. They wander around and they 562 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 6: cast a ballot that you even can see them, and 563 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 6: drop the ballot in and the MAGA people will rally 564 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 6: to Trump because there isn't a reason to defect at 565 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 6: this point. So then the media then says, Okay, we're 566 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 6: rooting for Nikki Haley, which the corporate media is, and 567 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 6: we want her to at least get thirty percent out 568 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 6: of this. I don't think she's going to hit that mark, 569 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 6: and Ioway. She has not been campaigning there very much. 570 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 6: Dissenters put everything in there. I spent a lot of money. 571 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 6: He's not going to do well, and then he'll have 572 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 6: to drop out on Tuesdays. So you know, say about 573 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 6: Iran and then Trump, he wins it, but he doesn't 574 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 6: gain very much because everybody expected him to win it. 575 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 6: And then New Hampshire on the twenty third of January, 576 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 6: that's a whole different story because there's a big lot 577 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 6: of big money going in there to convince left leaning 578 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 6: Democrats who register as independents to vote for Haley. That's 579 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 6: what the corporate media and the Democratic Party won. They 580 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 6: want Haley to show very well in New Hampshire so 581 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 6: that the media has two full weeks before South Carolina 582 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 6: to just pound Trump into pudding as a loser. And 583 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 6: that's the overarche on the initial voting. 584 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: So does it matter because we've been talking on this 585 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: show for a while about oh, it's going to be 586 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: man versus man or man versus woman, right, a one 587 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: on one battle. So let's say it's Ron DeSantis one 588 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: on one. Let's say it's Nicky Haley one on one. 589 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: Can either one of them beat Trump? Or in your mind, 590 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,719 Speaker 1: is the Republican nomination even before people vote Monday on 591 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: Iowa based on what you're seeing basically done, and Trump's 592 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: the guy. 593 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it is. But because he's Donald Trump, 594 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 6: no one knows what's going to happen on Monday. I'm 595 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 6: not Monday Iowa Caucus, but just Monday generic. Anythink could 596 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 6: happened at any time. It's like a pioneer in a 597 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 6: covered wagon going to this crossway, only in eighteen fifty 598 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 6: you better watch around anything it happened. So at this 599 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 6: point the election where hell tomorrow and Republicans would vote 600 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 6: for Trump because they want an avenger the MAGA people 601 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 6: and conservative Republicans not only want a Republican president, they 602 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 6: want somebody to go in there and dissemble the progressive movement. 603 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 6: And neither Haley or DeSantis has come across as someone 604 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 6: who would do that. You know, I want to say, 605 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 6: Haley just sant this debate on CNN. I almost fell asleep. 606 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, we switched off both of us them. 607 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 6: You know, but they just what do you? You know 608 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 6: you're not. I don't see any passion. I don't see 609 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 6: any point of view that is different than what I've 610 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 6: heard five million times and in order to be a 611 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 6: guy like Trump is so flamboyant and so out there, 612 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 6: you got you gotta bring it, and none of the 613 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 6: republic candidates come close to him and the ability to 614 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 6: get attention and rile people up. 615 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 3: We're speaking of Bill Riley. 616 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 5: Go to the billiilly dot com site for the No 617 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 5: Spin news and Bill, you know, we've spent a little 618 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 5: bit of time today talking about the various legal stratagems 619 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 5: that Democrats are deploying against Donald Trump. It seems like 620 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 5: some of these are well starting to all look like 621 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 5: one big dumpster fire. Do you think that that they've 622 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 5: is that your sense? I mean, have they miscalculated? Is 623 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 5: it falling apart? How do you view this? 624 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 6: Well, the civil suit in New York is just absurd, 625 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 6: and I think that'll go into the federal court system. 626 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 6: The fix is in. It shouldn't be brought in the 627 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 6: first place. There's no victim. You've heard it all, But 628 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 6: keep your eye on this Atlanta, Georgia Fulden County situation 629 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 6: with Fanny Willis. Remember the BG song Fanny B. Pender 630 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 6: with My Love. I love this song and every time 631 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 6: I see Fanny, I sort to Hummet. Now Fanny is 632 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 6: prosecuting Trump and a few of his accolytes for interfering 633 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 6: with the Georgia vote. But Fanny apparently hires a prosecutor 634 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 6: with whom she's having an affair and pays him up 635 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 6: to a million dollars in salary and expenses. And as 636 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 6: part of that, the guy goes to the White House twice. 637 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 6: Pretty big story is the White House coordinating Fanny's prosecution 638 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 6: to Trump and the others? What's the guy? 639 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 3: You think? 640 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, Bill, he build Fanny and Fulton County for the 641 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 6: visits this guy, I mean, is this a huge story? 642 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,479 Speaker 6: But you'll never see it on the corporate media. Fox 643 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 6: covered it a little, but I don't think Fox understands 644 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 6: how big the story is because this is prosecutorial misconduct. 645 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: I just, I just, I'm sorry to cut you off, 646 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: but I just spent you know, twenty or thirty minutes 647 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: hammering home why I think this is so important. And 648 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: I said, look, at a minimum, this is the benefit 649 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: of having people in the. 650 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 3: State of Georgia. 651 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: We know we're not going to get the Department of Justice, 652 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: to be honest, But Bill, don't you think that Brian 653 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: Kemp or someone in the upper echelons of the Georgia 654 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: state power should be investigating this investigation too. 655 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, Camp has to order the Attorney general to investigate 656 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 6: prosecutetorial misconduct on a part of Fanny Willis period. And 657 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 6: even if he doesn't, again, this will go to federal court. 658 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 6: Even though it's a state beef, It'll get thrown out. 659 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 6: The whole thing is going to get thrown out. I 660 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 6: predict it right now on the Klan Bucks show Bill. 661 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 5: You know these we get all these people that are 662 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 5: that are giving different interpretations of what the polls right 663 00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 5: now really mean for Trump being so far ahead of Biden. 664 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 5: I got people, We get people calling in here that 665 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 5: are saying, Oh, this is all meant to depress turnout, 666 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 5: or oh this is all some kind of a sigh op. 667 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,479 Speaker 3: How do you see it? 668 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,479 Speaker 1: Is this just the reality that Biden is so weak, 669 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: that Trump is far out ahead, and Democrats are panicking. 670 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 3: How do you assess that? 671 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 6: Well, it's an emotional time in America, and almost every 672 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 6: week we see the progressive left doing heinous things. I 673 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 6: mean Gaza and Hamas, all of that, and Joe Biden 674 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 6: is the progressive left president, the most radical left president 675 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 6: in the history of this republic by far, nobody even 676 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 6: a close second to Biden. And so that people are 677 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 6: emotional now and they don't like this progressive movement. They 678 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 6: may not like Trump, but if Trump is the only 679 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 6: alternative to Biden for more years of that, then they're 680 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 6: going to go with Trump. Not all of them, but 681 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 6: a big segment of the independence. And that's what you're seeing. 682 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,720 Speaker 6: But you know those polls, they can switch back pretty fast. 683 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 6: Now you were talking about Hunter Biden. Here's the Hunter Biden. 684 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 6: The importance of Hunter Biden. So Hunter Biden is embarrassing 685 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 6: his father. Now Joe Biden might not even know that 686 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 6: because he's not real cognizant these days, but he's embarrassing 687 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 6: his father. I said on the nose of News, if 688 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:24,280 Speaker 6: Teddy Roosevelt's sons had done what Joe Hunter Biden's doing, 689 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 6: Teddy would have thrown him a noise to Bay. They 690 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,720 Speaker 6: just kicked him rut of the house. So what Joe Biden, 691 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 6: as a father and the president of the United they 692 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 6: should do is today say honey, you pay all the 693 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 6: back taxes. They say, you will pay him right now. 694 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 6: Have your Hollywood guy who's funding all your bills right 695 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 6: to check today right, Instead we hear, oh, I'm proud 696 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 6: of my son, and what are you proud of that 697 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 6: he tried to kick drugs? Okay, but that's not the 698 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 6: issue here. The issue is that the demand has charged 699 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 6: with nine felonies in California federal beefs and are you 700 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 6: proud of that? Hero? A word and the media of 701 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 6: course slides over it. So the reason that Hunter Biden 702 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 6: wouldn't go and sit for the deposition for the Oversight 703 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 6: Committee in the House is because you don't have a 704 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 6: time limit on that. And if in public you have 705 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 6: five minute increments where you call a buster, you can 706 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 6: fill about you don't have to answer anything. You can 707 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 6: fillibuster all day long. 708 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: But in the and they alternate, where you're getting Democrats 709 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: talking about. 710 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 6: It doesn't matter who it is. In five minutes, you're 711 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,959 Speaker 6: not going to get anything from a guy who wants 712 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 6: to obfuse gate the issue. But in the deposition you 713 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 6: got to sit there under oath and answer very telling questions. 714 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 6: And the big question is how much money did your 715 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 6: father derive from this? What did you give him in loans? 716 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 6: Who did you give them payback? Well, that's never going 717 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 6: to happen in a public That's what this is all about. 718 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 6: It's another con, another grift. So oh yeah, I'll answer 719 00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 6: the question of Bulger, but I'm not going to answer 720 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 6: Ques in private. What and again, if you're the president 721 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 6: and he's your son, you go sit for the deposition 722 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 6: as you. 723 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: Do, which Donald Trum Junior did five times and leading 724 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: into that, by the way, Bill, I want to get 725 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: this last question for you before we have to go 726 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: to break. You and me are on the side of truth, justice, 727 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: and on accuracy. 728 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:19,439 Speaker 3: Buck. 729 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: Of course, the opposite of that. You, you and I 730 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: Bill believe that that the Joe Biden train is eventually 731 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: coming off the tracks. So I'm curious as you look 732 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: at the scene right now. Obviously the polls look good 733 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,720 Speaker 1: for Trump. We got the first votes of twenty twenty 734 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: four coming Monday, how do the Democrats maneuver to get 735 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: Biden off the ballot? To you as now voting has started, 736 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 1: what do the next few months look like? 737 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:46,720 Speaker 3: And where are we headed? 738 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 6: Well, it's easy. So Michelle Obama on Monday shows up 739 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 6: on the J. Shetty podcast. Did you guys talk about that? 740 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I did, very excited, very excited. 741 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 6: Jay Shetty, not Claimbuck, not Bill O'Reilly Jay Shetty one hour, 742 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 6: five minutes. Guy's a former monk. I guess they had 743 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 6: wind chimes and incense. I guess they had a lot. Okay, 744 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 6: why does that book to sell? Hasn't dined with Oprah 745 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 6: lately that I know of, and I have an album out. 746 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 6: Why is she doing that? Michelle Obama and her husband, 747 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 6: Barack Obama do nothing spontaneously. Ever, there's the reason why 748 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,399 Speaker 6: she did it, and that reason is to send a 749 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 6: signal to the Democratic Party. I'm here so Joe Biden 750 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 6: easily could no matter how many delegates he has, could 751 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 6: say in July, two weeks before the Democratic convention in Chicago, 752 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 6: I can't do it for medical reasons. I'm resigning and 753 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 6: I'm turning my delegates over to missus Obama. 754 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 3: I'm with you. I'm just telling you too. 755 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 1: Right now, we're going to replay this in like July 756 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: or August, and we're gonna be taking photos of me 757 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: eating the most delicious Kobe beef imaginable and Bill. 758 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not predicting that will happen. I'm just 759 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 6: saying it's easy for it to happen. 760 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 3: Oh okay, all right, that everyone is aware of. 761 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 6: And this is another story everybody's overlooked. Gavin Newsom took 762 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 6: himself off the board as a legitimate presidential candidate first 763 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 6: Party when he announced that he's paying all the health 764 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 6: benefits to undocumented Yeah, that was it, that was all. 765 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 6: It's over. You cannot win with that on your resume. 766 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 1: We're going to see we're going to see Clay. We're 767 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: going to replay this. 768 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,399 Speaker 5: So Bill is saying it's very possible. You are saying, Clay, 769 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,320 Speaker 5: it's gonna happen. I'm saying Hell will freeze over before 770 00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 5: this happens. 771 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. My theory is that in the polls could change. Right, 772 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 3: we know, we know, we know you think, Michelle, let's good. 773 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, but if the polls don't change, 774 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: it's gonna be Michelle. 775 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,919 Speaker 7: You're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact with 776 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 7: Clay and Buck. 777 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 1: Iowa caucuses voting officially underway Monday. Like I said, this 778 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: is the last show we will do where voting is 779 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: not underway. What do we expect? First of all, the 780 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: weather is going to be brutal. Some of you say, well, 781 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: the weather's always brutal in Iowa. Now the weather is 782 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: going to be like minus twenty degrees potentially in some 783 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: parts of Iowa. That is a big deal in terms 784 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: of potentially how many people are going to turn out 785 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 1: and what is this margin going to be Looking at 786 00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: the storylines that could come out of Monday. If Rup 787 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: gets over fifty percent of the vote, this thing's not 788 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: going to be close, and it would be a huge 789 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: vote of confidence for his overall campaign. He gets less 790 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: than fifty percent, then I think he's a little bit 791 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 1: wobbly coming out of Iowa given the challenges that are 792 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: going to be in New Hampshire. But really the story, 793 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 1: barring a tremendous upset and Trump losing, I don't think 794 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: is going to be Trump. I think the story is 795 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: going to be who comes in second. Ron DeSantis has 796 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: put all his chips in the table on Iowa. He 797 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: has said I'm going to run and be competitive in Iowa. 798 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: He's focused on that ground operation. The caucus rules a 799 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: little bit different, the turnout rules different. The weather is 800 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: going to matter. The diehards are going to show up. 801 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: So for everybody out there, if DeSantis is second and 802 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 1: it's a competitive second I think they're going to come 803 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 1: out Monday and they're gonna feel really good. If Nicki 804 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: Hayley manages to get to second. I think the DeSantis 805 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 1: campaign is gonna have a hard time continuing beyond Iowa. 806 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,839 Speaker 1: I really do, because Nikki Haley has really put all 807 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,720 Speaker 1: her chips in on New Hampshire. So if she's able 808 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 1: to ride rising momentum into Iowa and get that second 809 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: place finish on Monday night, she's gonna feel like it's 810 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: now a one on one race and it's her versus 811 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: Donald Trump in New Hampshire. And remember, no Republican candidate 812 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy six, Gerald Ford did it, has won 813 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: both Iowa and New Hampshire. So if Trump is able 814 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: to do that in a contested primary, If Trump is 815 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 1: able to do that, then he will be having the 816 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 1: greatest success in Iowa New Hampshire of any Republican in 817 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 1: over forty five years, nearly fifty years, forty eight years. 818 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 3: If my math is right, and this thing will be over. 819 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 1: Eight days after Iowa is New Hampshire, we could have 820 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: the fastest Republican primary ever because if Trump wins Iowa, 821 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 1: and it would be a major upset If Trump is 822 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 1: not gonna win on Monday, seismic as big of an 823 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: upset as Trump winning in twenty sixteen would be Trump 824 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: losing in Iowa, and that would change everything. 825 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 3: Trump is a huge favorite to win Iowa. 826 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,399 Speaker 1: If he follows it up and wins New Hampshire eight 827 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: days later, we could be sitting here and saying this 828 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: thing's over before we even. 829 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 3: Get to February. 830 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 1: On the flip side, if Desantus finishes second, I think 831 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,240 Speaker 1: it's actually great for Trump. 832 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 3: Some of you are out there saying, what do you mean? 833 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,760 Speaker 1: If DeSantis finishes second, then he has a strong argument 834 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 1: that he's going to continue in this campaign, And then 835 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: he undercuts Nicki Haley some because Nikki Haley is probably 836 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 1: going to finish second at worst in New Hampshire. So 837 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,720 Speaker 1: then Trump, regardless of how exactly Iowa New Hampshire goes, 838 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: is going to have a different person in second place 839 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 1: in Iowa, a different person potentially in second place in 840 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: New Hampshire, and then they're both going to argue that 841 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: they're still viable candidates going forward. And some of you 842 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: out there saying you're ignoring Viveke. We really like Leveke. 843 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 1: Vegas a friend of the show. We've had Viveke nine 844 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:48,320 Speaker 1: times on this show, nine times like Ferris Bueller nine 845 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,360 Speaker 1: times on this show since Buck and I took over 846 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: three years ago. We've had the Veke on five times 847 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 1: since he announced that he was running for president. That 848 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 1: is more times the Veke has been on this program 849 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,319 Speaker 1: than any other Republican candidate. So some of you out there, 850 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,240 Speaker 1: and I understand everybody's a part, isn't of a different 851 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 1: person in the vic's organized ass off traveling around Iowa, 852 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 1: doing more events, I think than anyone has. But if 853 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: you're out there right now and you're saying, well, you're 854 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: not talking enough about Levake, or you're not talking enough 855 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 1: about the Santis, Nikky, Haley or Trump, I think this 856 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 1: thing could be done before we even get to February, 857 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 1: and all the drama and all the talk come Monday, 858 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 1: nothing that we say is going to matter. The one 859 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 1: thing I miss from sports is you always have games. 860 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: There's always something new to react to. There's always a 861 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:52,240 Speaker 1: scoreboard that's actually official. All we have in politics is polls, 862 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,839 Speaker 1: and the polls aren't that reliable all the time, as 863 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 1: many of you know, so it's relatively rare that we 864 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 1: actually have real numbers to look at and crunch and analyze. 865 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 1: Legitimate votes are going up on the board for the 866 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: first time in twenty twenty four. So all the talk, 867 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 1: whatever I've said, whatever Buck has said, none of it 868 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: matters once all of you start going out to the 869 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: polls in Iowa and then eight days later go out 870 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,760 Speaker 1: to the polls in New Hampshire. The beautiful thing about 871 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 1: democracy is everybody gets to have their voice heard. 872 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 3: Hopefully they're real people and they're actually alive. 873 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: But in Iowa and New Hampshire, all of you are 874 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 1: going to be able to have your voices heard, and 875 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 1: by the time we get to February, this thing may 876 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 1: be done. But those are the directions that things can go. 877 00:47:55,520 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 1: As everybody is breaking all of this down, we'll take 878 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 1: some of your calls to close up shop here. Appreciate 879 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 1: all of you who have been hanging out with us. 880 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,840 Speaker 1: And I can't wait. I mean, I mean, I'm super 881 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,839 Speaker 1: excited for Monday to put on the television and start 882 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 1: to watch these results all come in and see what 883 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: the story is going to be. All of you out 884 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: there chirping about how your candidate is and being respected enough, 885 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:30,959 Speaker 1: and they're going to dominate DeSantis, Nikki Haley Vivek, even 886 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 1: Trump people will actually have tangible scoreboard results for what 887 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: the people of Iowa believe about basically a year's worth 888 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:45,360 Speaker 1: a campaigning that has gone on in that state. I 889 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 1: cannot wait. I think you guys are going to be 890 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: excited to watch on Monday as well. Take your calls, 891 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 1: close up the Friday edition of the program eight hundred 892 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 1: and two two eight A two. You can react to anything. 893 00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 1: I think the biggest story that has come out of 894 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,319 Speaker 1: the week are the Fanny Willis revelations. And I think 895 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people, as we were talking about, have 896 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 1: still not caught up to exactly how massive this could be. 897 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 1: Because all it takes is one guy or gal that 898 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: is potentially facing criminal charges themselves and all of the 899 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 1: conspiracy surrounding the Donald Trump lawfair could blow up in 900 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 1: a hurry. And I think this guy, Nathan Wade, and 901 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 1: I think Fanny Willis, this Atlanta prosecution has gone up 902 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,359 Speaker 1: and smoked this week, and I don't know that most 903 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 1: people have recognized it yet. This is going to be 904 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 1: absolutely incredible to watch. And if you're listening to us 905 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,320 Speaker 1: right now again and you're in the state of Georgia. 906 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 1: What in the world are you guys doing down there? 907 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 1: How are you not opening your own investigation into Fanny 908 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,239 Speaker 1: Willis's behavior and what she did with six hundred and 909 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars of your taxpayer money that she just 910 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:03,919 Speaker 1: gave to her boyfriend. She hired, her mistress, her mister, 911 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 1: her jigglow, her sancho, all these different terms, they aren't 912 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 1: applied that evenly because you were not used to women 913 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 1: necessarily hiring their paramour