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Speaker 1: long time Cowboys reporter, joined by two former Dallas Cowboys players.
Speaker 1: That's Danny McCray and Barry Church, both former sat with
Speaker 1: the team. All right, Uh, who I guess we gotta
Speaker 1: start at number four here and Jerry Jones making his
Speaker 1: weekly appearance on the Black Ship Radio station to the
Speaker 1: Cowboys one oh five three the fan. A couple of
Speaker 1: things Jerry said here. Number one, He said that act
Speaker 1: should be ready for offseason work by late April, early man.
Speaker 1: And he says he's not concerned about the injury, that
Speaker 1: this is something that Dak Prescott can heal up from
Speaker 1: and be good to go. So mcraig, knowing that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys Hall of Fame owner feels this way about Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: were your thoughts, I mean, how he feels about when
Speaker 1: Dak would be ready, it's kind of irrelevant. That's kind
Speaker 1: of up to Dak and how how he heals up.
Speaker 1: So you know a lot of times owners and doctors say, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, this is a six to eight month injury,
Speaker 1: and then you see guys you know, they're out for
Speaker 1: a year or they could be out shorter. So it's
Speaker 1: really just up to you know, to how fast Dak heels.
Speaker 1: And it sounds like Jerry has some confidence and Dak
Speaker 1: being on the squad next year. So it's a possible
Speaker 1: franchise tag coming because anything they say about paying the
Speaker 1: panning the man, you know, the Deshaun Watson type of
Speaker 1: contract or Pat mahonside of contract, it's all emotional right now,
Speaker 1: just because they feel so bad for him for being
Speaker 1: such a good guy. So we'll see hot pans out.
Speaker 1: But I'm shooting for the franchise, taging for them to see,
Speaker 1: you know, how healthy is he is next year? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I hope everything you know pans
Speaker 1: out and you know, his the bone grows back stronger
Speaker 1: than ever and he's able to go out there and
Speaker 1: and ball out when when he does come back. Um,
Speaker 1: but for me, you know, The question I want to
Speaker 1: ask is, you know, what if Andy Dalton goes out
Speaker 1: here and just balls out. I'm talking about, like he
Speaker 1: leads us to a what are we right now? Two
Speaker 1: and three? What if he leads us to a ten
Speaker 1: and six record or something crazy like that, we go
Speaker 1: to the playoffs, he makes it lights little. I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, what if he balls out ridiculously and
Speaker 1: he leads us to a nice little run in the playoffs?
Speaker 1: You know, are we still gonna hear all this? You know? Hey,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be ready for camp like he's our future.
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I mean, that's that's the real question
Speaker 1: I want to know. But I guess when we chail,
Speaker 1: we ask you, we ask you this. I know he stuff? Man, yeah,
Speaker 1: stuff man? Why we're bucking up stuff from months to go? Man? Like,
Speaker 1: what about he's all on Twitter? And he all on
Speaker 1: Twitter here? Crazy now he's raising the question like, oh this,
Speaker 1: this might be possible. Yes see, Buried, this is why
Speaker 1: you should should listen to us when we're doing the players. Lady,
Speaker 1: we were trying to already take you here. Um, I'll
Speaker 1: answer your question for you this one. And I said
Speaker 1: it yesterday. Now I'll say it again. I expect Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton to be a starting quarterback for a team next year. Um,
Speaker 1: and then I don't expect it to be with the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Jerry Jones coming out today and saying he
Speaker 1: expect expects Dak to be fine and be the quarterback
Speaker 1: of the team. Stephen Jones yesterday saying that he expected
Speaker 1: Dad to be, you know, to be the quarterback of
Speaker 1: the team. Andy Dalton did this on a one year deal. Gay,
Speaker 1: it was designed, Hay, I'm gonna be here for a
Speaker 1: year and I'm gonna go ahead and move on along.
Speaker 1: And I think Andy, with these weapons will be able
Speaker 1: to put up enough of a resume that will help
Speaker 1: him get a contract. Um. Maybe in a Teddy Bridgewater
Speaker 1: type of situation. You saw what Teddy did for the
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers in the off season, got a nice contract.
Speaker 1: I think Andy Dalton can still play, but I don't
Speaker 1: I don't anticipate Andy Dalton being here. I think that
Speaker 1: we will see Dak Prescott here. And as far as
Speaker 1: this team win in ten games, church Is, are they
Speaker 1: about to get Aaron Donald in a trade. I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'll tell me how how's this defense
Speaker 1: gonna transform with with you know, another starting defensive lineman.
Speaker 1: Da How's this a ten win defense? Look, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, we got a lot of factors
Speaker 1: going against us right now to go ahead and get
Speaker 1: those ten wins. I was just throwing out there, what
Speaker 1: if something happened, What if my gap goes on a
Speaker 1: on a run like Dac did in his rookie year.
Speaker 1: Will change a little bit. But hey, it's it was
Speaker 1: a fifth you know what I'm saying. So look, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna happen, but I'm just throwing the
Speaker 1: question out there. That's all. So yesterday, it's absolutely change bad.
Speaker 1: It's absolutely going to change if Andy Dalton goes ten
Speaker 1: and six, if that's a win in the division and
Speaker 1: that he could possibly win a playoff game, the conversation
Speaker 1: will change because he knew he would have said. We
Speaker 1: talked about how expensive the franchise tagers go be next year,
Speaker 1: So that's gonna be tough. So you looking at automatically
Speaker 1: given that, you know, a big contract with Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: coming off a year where he he won more games
Speaker 1: than that you know, was projected to win So I
Speaker 1: got a buddy of mine and who does radio or Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: so he always has me on, and he had me
Speaker 1: on yesterday and he was asking me all these Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton questions. And I said to him, will you stop
Speaker 1: talking about Andy Dalton and start talking about the defense.
Speaker 1: I said, people show so much time talking about the
Speaker 1: Cowboys weapons, and we on this show kept talking about
Speaker 1: defense more than any other show. Right here on Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com. We kept talking about the defense. They
Speaker 1: just lost the starting defensive tackle, and you have people
Speaker 1: assuming and thinking, well, you know, the Cowboys just gonna
Speaker 1: win the division. Oh, the Cowboys can get on this run.
Speaker 1: They got players that are not buying into the defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator at his defense. Okay, Daniel Jones had three hundred yards.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones man um, Kyler Murray's coming here. Okay, Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray Monday night. I'm worried it's gonna get because this helps,
Speaker 1: This helps, this helps Andy dont know new This helps
Speaker 1: Church's point because with everything that you're saying, if Andy
Speaker 1: Dollar comes out here and takes this, takes this defense
Speaker 1: that we're talking about, and this team to ten wins,
Speaker 1: this is a legit conversation that we're having all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, all right, let's let's get out of the
Speaker 1: ten wins because we all know that ain't What about nints?
Speaker 1: What if he goes nine and seven or something like that,
Speaker 1: because I'm just hearing these ten wins and I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, man right, it got about nine. The bar.
Speaker 1: The bar has to be ten, Church. He can't be nice.
Speaker 1: It's gotta be ten. He gotta win. What if he
Speaker 1: goes nine and seven, makes the playoffs, gets them to
Speaker 1: the divisional round? That don't that don't give him another
Speaker 1: year here and that doesn't get back out of the
Speaker 1: picture this defense. And he goes nine to seven, goes
Speaker 1: on a mini playoff run, you're saying that don't count. Nay,
Speaker 1: don't we shall say I agree with Danny. I agree
Speaker 1: with Danny. I mean, the Joneses have come out here
Speaker 1: basically the last two days and told you they expect
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott to be here. And I go back to
Speaker 1: what you said, Danny, the way he left the field
Speaker 1: and the respect that you saw from players on both sides,
Speaker 1: and then his former head coach, and then the amount
Speaker 1: of people who reached out to Dak Prescott on social media.
Speaker 1: I mean Gordon Hayward today and the Celtics who had
Speaker 1: one of those awful leg injuries, broke his leg. He
Speaker 1: came out, hey, you know Dad reaching out to Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, they know more so than ever,
Speaker 1: this is truly the guy, and this is the guy
Speaker 1: who touched people, you know. I mean, I was listening
Speaker 1: to somebody's podcasts, to the Yahoo NFL podcast with Tres
Speaker 1: Payler Charles Robinson, and they were both talking about how, hey,
Speaker 1: you know normally nay, you don't know injuries or injuries,
Speaker 1: but man, this would touch me. It hit me. They
Speaker 1: want him back because one thing we know about Jerry Jones,
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones loves a good story. Okay, you guys played
Speaker 1: for him. He loves to get in front and talk
Speaker 1: to you about stories. He loves to tell stories. What
Speaker 1: kind of story can he spend with Dak Prescott here?
Speaker 1: So going back to your point, Barry about Andy Dalton,
Speaker 1: I think Andy Dalt will be able to put up
Speaker 1: numbers here because of the weapons. And I expect Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton to take that and go get himself a contract
Speaker 1: and another team and and be somebody else's starting quarterback
Speaker 1: because this was always for him a one year playing
Speaker 1: you know, he came into my hey, it's Dak's team.
Speaker 1: But I think, especially what we saw from him when
Speaker 1: he came into the game and was able to leave
Speaker 1: two scoring drives, I think this kid will will go
Speaker 1: someplace else, and I believe people will go back and say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, Andy Dalton can play in this league.
Speaker 1: This is what happens when you play for Cincinnati and
Speaker 1: they decided with spend any money. You know, they ran
Speaker 1: the guy out. And look, they did a smart thing
Speaker 1: in terms of going and drafting Joe Grow and moving
Speaker 1: on from Andy Dalton. I give the Bengals credit for that.
Speaker 1: It will definitely be a fun game to see Cincinnati
Speaker 1: and Dallas played each other up in the Queen City.
Speaker 1: But I just I just think that Andy Dalk's gonna
Speaker 1: put up his numbers in league, and as as you should,
Speaker 1: because there's some bad quarterback play this league, and Andy
Speaker 1: Dawk can go. He can get started to Look, I
Speaker 1: definitely agree with y'all both y'all. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: you know, he did this one year deal and you
Speaker 1: know the circumstances that happened. He's gonna be able to
Speaker 1: parlay that into, like you said, something like a Bridgewater
Speaker 1: type deal. But I mean, let's not let's not act like,
Speaker 1: you know, the Jones just having said, Oh, we're gonna
Speaker 1: keep our guy. We're gonna get this guy done, We're
Speaker 1: gonna get everything done. This contract is imminent. Let's not
Speaker 1: act like they haven't said that in the past. So
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Man, if this guy goes out and
Speaker 1: balls out, I think the title changed a little bit.
Speaker 1: But like I said, I agree with y'all overall, I
Speaker 1: think Dak will be back here. But we'll see. We'll
Speaker 1: have at the lesson of that when when the time comes.
Speaker 1: Let me play Devil's Advocate here one more time, because
Speaker 1: earlier in the year, you know, I brought something up
Speaker 1: to New and New he shot it down real quick.
Speaker 1: And when I said Cam Newton will be going to
Speaker 1: New England, I tell you one thing. If Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: and them decide they want to move in a different direction,
Speaker 1: the sleeveless guy up there in New England, he'll be
Speaker 1: waiting for a quarterback like Dak Prescott to come on
Speaker 1: the squad. Like I said, look like we talked about
Speaker 1: last night. There would be no shortage of teams who
Speaker 1: want who want a guy like Dak Prescott, and I
Speaker 1: think New England will be top of the list. And
Speaker 1: I'm calling that now, Jerry. Don't you heard it here?
Speaker 1: First You'll be seeing guys win super Bowls up there
Speaker 1: in New England for a while. Okay, So so all right,
Speaker 1: so Danny here, you're saying Dak potentially to New England. No, no, listen, listen, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, I said, if Jerry, if they if they
Speaker 1: don't do right by Dak. This is what we were
Speaker 1: floating the whole Andy don't think out there and if
Speaker 1: the tide turns. This is all hypothetical, but I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that this is going to happen. We were just
Speaker 1: going down this rabbit hole of if Andy don't does
Speaker 1: this and blah blah blah blah, And I'm saying, listen,
Speaker 1: if they don't do right by the guy, I'm going
Speaker 1: back to my it's always somebody, and that he will
Speaker 1: have a bunch of suitors waiting for him to pay
Speaker 1: him some big money. Okay. So when you say so,
Speaker 1: help me, because I want to make sure I'm getting
Speaker 1: this correctly from me. When you say don't do right
Speaker 1: by him, what does that entail? So the rabbit hole
Speaker 1: was no, Yeah, the rabbit hole was one day, would
Speaker 1: have to not franchise him. Right, So we're going down
Speaker 1: this hypothetical of there. They're saying Andy Dalton is the guy,
Speaker 1: like he goes ten to six, and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden they say, Andy, we're gonna stickle Andy Dalton and
Speaker 1: not pay Dack. That that's a far off thing, you know,
Speaker 1: to happen. But this is hypothetical. So no, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it's gonna happen. When since we were floating it
Speaker 1: out there and playing in that world, I was saying,
Speaker 1: if that does happen, it's possible, and Bill Belichick would
Speaker 1: be waiting. So Belichick would have to be waiting in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two because I'm from what the Jones is
Speaker 1: put out there, I'm anticipating Dak being with this team
Speaker 1: being through in twenty twenty one bid through franchise tag, sacond,
Speaker 1: franchise tack or a long term contract. But if you know,
Speaker 1: if neither, if he signs the one year deal and
Speaker 1: you know they go through twenty one, so that means
Speaker 1: Belichick's gotta wait till twenty twenty two to get Dak Prescott. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why it's hypothetically that's what I'm saying. They would
Speaker 1: have to do. They would have to say that Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton is their guy for this, for back to get
Speaker 1: there next year, which we we none of us think
Speaker 1: will really happen. Okay, well, let me ask you all this.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you all this. Let's just say, let's
Speaker 1: just say, for since we're talking about hypotheticals and all
Speaker 1: that stuff, what do you think after this, you know,
Speaker 1: this injury and all that stuff, what do you think
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's number should be going forward with a contract
Speaker 1: situation like it was all like it was, you know,
Speaker 1: there was there was reports that it was around you know,
Speaker 1: thirty five, thirty six, and then later on it went
Speaker 1: up to the to the high thirty nine, maybe forties
Speaker 1: after this injury. No, Franchi, let's just say there's no
Speaker 1: franchise tag. What would be a fair number in your opinion, like,
Speaker 1: because you said do right by and what would it
Speaker 1: be a fair number and get over thirty five? You're
Speaker 1: starting it. You're starting at thirty five. I mean because
Speaker 1: it's not like Dak was running around like Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: the guy. If he heals up right, he comes back,
Speaker 1: he can he can throw from the pocket. He should
Speaker 1: still be able to move around just as much as
Speaker 1: he did before. I know they said he had the
Speaker 1: first one with three touch Russian touchdowns. They were from
Speaker 1: the run one yard line. It's not like he's fifty yards,
Speaker 1: you know, and running around the field everywhere. So I
Speaker 1: think he'll be all right. And you're starting at thirty
Speaker 1: five at lease, Okay, I think the agent is to me,
Speaker 1: if I'm the agent, I said, give me the Watson deal.
Speaker 1: That's what I come with. Give me the Watson deal. Respect. Respect.
Speaker 1: We know the cat, the cat might go down as
Speaker 1: well this year as well. I mean reporting talking about
Speaker 1: the cat going down twenty five. So that could do
Speaker 1: a little Yeah, that couldn't hurt hurt it a little bit.
Speaker 1: So we'll see. We'll see. But he said, you ain't waiting.
Speaker 1: They gotta do. They gotta handle that. That does. So
Speaker 1: that's whether the money for Dak Prescott on a new
Speaker 1: deal is thirty five, thirty six or seven or eight
Speaker 1: for forty, I mean, whatever it is, it's to me
Speaker 1: still gonna come down to this whole premise of years
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys are sitting here saying we need five,
Speaker 1: and his agents still sitting here saying we need four,
Speaker 1: then they're still going to have a problem here. And
Speaker 1: that to me is the bigger deal more so than
Speaker 1: just the number. It's the number of the contract number
Speaker 1: in the average salary, but but the number of years.
Speaker 1: Cowboys want a five year deal and essentially a four
Speaker 1: year deal for Dak Prescott means it's really a three
Speaker 1: year deal because we know how these things work. If
Speaker 1: the quarterback is any good, they've renegotiate the final year
Speaker 1: because it's usually a fatter number in that final year,
Speaker 1: and you want to get that cap number down. So
Speaker 1: you know, it's about those bike to the apple, which
Speaker 1: is why people want those four year deals. That's why
Speaker 1: Golf got a four year deal, Wins got a four
Speaker 1: year deal, Russell Wilson got a four year deal, and
Speaker 1: Rogers got a four year deal. I mean they all
Speaker 1: want to go ahead, have a shorter contract and jump
Speaker 1: back in the market again. So if the Joneses are
Speaker 1: still fighting this thing about five verses four, I'll be
Speaker 1: very interested to see And oh, By the way, as
Speaker 1: we spoke about yesterday on the show, the Joneses now
Speaker 1: have they have the leverage here because Dak is hurt
Speaker 1: and will not have played a complete season, and just
Speaker 1: some of the things that they were going to be
Speaker 1: able to throw out there, they're not able to throw
Speaker 1: out there, which is, Hey, he starts every game, he's
Speaker 1: always healthy. Look at these great numbers, Look at the
Speaker 1: team in the playoffs, look at Dak in the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1: Some of those negotiating things that they were gonna use
Speaker 1: are not going to be there when they try to
Speaker 1: negotiate this deal in twenty twenty one. Real quick, real quick,
Speaker 1: real quick. Up. Ask do y'all think if they can't
Speaker 1: get a deal done, do you think that bets on
Speaker 1: himself again, given though, giving this injury and everything, do
Speaker 1: you think he bets on himself again with another franchise
Speaker 1: tag or he takes that five year deal or or
Speaker 1: less our offer. Yeah, he's betting on himself. He didn't once,
Speaker 1: he'll do it again. And how much is that franchise
Speaker 1: takeing again next year? It was like thirty seven. It's
Speaker 1: up there. It's up there. Man. Yeah, yeah, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: you know so I mean, it's not like you're playing
Speaker 1: for pennies on the dollar. And from what newis just said, listen,
Speaker 1: if they start saying all that, yeah, he didn't play
Speaker 1: the full season, he's not healthy, and all that the
Speaker 1: tape that he put out there and the taste that
Speaker 1: they that he left out there for everybody to see
Speaker 1: is he's top Nights quarterback. So I don't want to
Speaker 1: hear none of that is a free accident. The dude
Speaker 1: has always been healthy. He played through a free accident
Speaker 1: and all the all the hurt guys that we keep
Speaker 1: on the team, I've better not hear nothing about availability
Speaker 1: for Dak Prescotte. Once again, I would love to have
Speaker 1: more information about what happened in July when they apparently
Speaker 1: did talk about getting a contract done and they ran
Speaker 1: out of time. So to me, the fact that those
Speaker 1: conversations being held meant that Dak was trying to get
Speaker 1: something done. So I believe they'll try to get something
Speaker 1: done again. And you guys know this because you played
Speaker 1: in the game and I didn't. But from what I've
Speaker 1: heard from guys as they go through the rehab process,
Speaker 1: you know what doubts do you have and if you're
Speaker 1: having some doubts, If you have some questions, maybe you
Speaker 1: want to sign that deal and just give yourself some
Speaker 1: peace of mind versus going out and gambling again. That
Speaker 1: is something you have to think about. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I've never played at this level, never got hurt. But
Speaker 1: in talking to guys that have turned down deals, is
Speaker 1: something they think about. And Jerry says he expects Dad
Speaker 1: to be one hundred percent that he should heal fun
Speaker 1: but I don't know what's in the back of his mind.
Speaker 1: And I don't know how this last negotiation went that
Speaker 1: whether he was like, man, let me go ahead, get
Speaker 1: this deal done, because I want it. I don't want
Speaker 1: to think about this. I want to just go out,
Speaker 1: be free and play. So mentally, I think that's a
Speaker 1: big deal that you got. You gotta ask you. We
Speaker 1: got to get inside the mind of the player and
Speaker 1: ask the player hope. Okay, all right, let's take a
Speaker 1: break here. We've dived into Dak enough here. I don't
Speaker 1: think we've spoken enough about this defensive line. The defensive
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Speaker 1: All Right players louds on new we Scrugs a long
Speaker 1: time Cowboys reporter, joined by Barry Church, former Cowboys safety,
Speaker 1: and Danny McCrae former Cowboys safety as well. So Tristan
Speaker 1: Hill is out for the season. He uh has a
Speaker 1: ACL injury, so we wish him a speedy recovery. Gerald
Speaker 1: McCoy was supposed to be a starting Cowboys defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: He is out for the year. Happened with him but
Speaker 1: the injury at training camp, So don Terry Poe is
Speaker 1: now the other starter. You've got Tyron Crawford who's played
Speaker 1: some at defensive tackle. And now we get to potentially
Speaker 1: see what Nevin Gallimore, Cowboys third round pick out of
Speaker 1: Oklahoma can do. Checking my notes here, he was a
Speaker 1: healthy scratch in weeks three and four, and that Sunday
Speaker 1: was his biggest workload to date where he played twenty
Speaker 1: two snaps and had a pressure on Daniel Jones and
Speaker 1: in the final possession of the game. And the Cowboys
Speaker 1: also a rookie defensive lineman Justin Hamilton and Ladarius Hamilton
Speaker 1: on their practice report here. So you know, Barry, I
Speaker 1: know you spoked about a possible ten, ten and six run.
Speaker 1: But but for me, this defense and we can talk
Speaker 1: about Andy Dalton all day long, but to me, this
Speaker 1: defense has issues and it didn't get any better with
Speaker 1: losing a guy like Tristan Hill. So your thoughts on
Speaker 1: this defensive tackle front going forward for the Cowboys. Yeah, First,
Speaker 1: I'll allow I gotta say to the people watching, man,
Speaker 1: excuse me for my ten win remark. I mean, my
Speaker 1: mind's kind of fuzzy right now. Danny Danny put us
Speaker 1: through a workout earlier today. I don't know if he
Speaker 1: thought he was Billy Blakes or something, but I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm out here, I'm out here confused right now. So
Speaker 1: let's you know, those ten wins, I'm gonna just swipe
Speaker 1: those to the side a little bit over there. But
Speaker 1: back to this defense, man, Look, this defense looks downright terrible.
Speaker 1: They played a little bit better, but it was against
Speaker 1: the hapless New York Giants, and look, and I think
Speaker 1: this D line they got the potential, they got the
Speaker 1: talent to go out there and affect the quarterback, but
Speaker 1: we're just not seeing it. And I'm gonna tell you what, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you know, don Terry Poe got
Speaker 1: on this organization or something, But how is he still
Speaker 1: a cowboy right now? I mean, if you just look
Speaker 1: at the tape, if you look at the film, man,
Speaker 1: it just he just doesn't look athletic and he's getting
Speaker 1: pushed around. There was one time I saw him and
Speaker 1: granted this is a defensive tackle, that's he got to
Speaker 1: be over three hundred pounds, he got pushed back by
Speaker 1: the tight end at least five or six yards and
Speaker 1: he was into the lap of Jalen Smith. And you
Speaker 1: just can't do that and be considered a good defense
Speaker 1: and a good defensive line. So for me, it's just
Speaker 1: confusing right now. While he's getting so much burn out there,
Speaker 1: it just I guess it goes to show you the
Speaker 1: lack of depth at that defensive tackle position. But to me,
Speaker 1: this this defense is struggling and struggling in all phases
Speaker 1: right now. The defensive line, the linebacker unit, they showed
Speaker 1: a little bit more pop, but they're struggling in coverage
Speaker 1: as well. And in the secondary. We've seen what they've
Speaker 1: been doing so far this year. So for me, I
Speaker 1: mean this defensive struggling and ten wins is nowhere in
Speaker 1: the in the near future. Like I said, my mind
Speaker 1: was kind of fuzzy. So we got a lot of
Speaker 1: problems to fix. But hopefully the reinforcements come. I mean,
Speaker 1: we got we got some problems to fix. I'm confused,
Speaker 1: NUIs what is up man with you in this defense?
Speaker 1: And listen, it does not matter you Just last week
Speaker 1: we said we had three defensive alignment at the bottom
Speaker 1: of the league for their position, So it's it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter if somebody gets hurt or who we put out there,
Speaker 1: you know, if if they're at the bottom, it's it's
Speaker 1: it ain't no drop off. It's the same thing. And
Speaker 1: we already know that this defense is what it is,
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's that big of a deal,
Speaker 1: and I don't think it changes much. I think the
Speaker 1: big change you know that that can come and help
Speaker 1: us is still Keller Moore leaning on twenty one, taking
Speaker 1: the ball out of quarterback hands and letting the whole
Speaker 1: offense revolve around us running the ball and then you know,
Speaker 1: capitalizing on play action, getting the Mark Cooper in the game.
Speaker 1: You know, well, you know, if he's if he's available,
Speaker 1: and they can see let's see the lamb and gallop,
Speaker 1: get some spin, just but just base it off Zeke.
Speaker 1: The defense. To me, how they play is irrelevant. We
Speaker 1: need to control the clock. We know it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a shootout. We're not gonna stop nobody, so we just
Speaker 1: need to find a way to possess the ball more
Speaker 1: than the other team and score more points. But you
Speaker 1: know that ain't happening. D Matt. You know that that.
Speaker 1: You know that run game is too ugly, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. The OC shines when the passing game
Speaker 1: is going on. So for me, you know they ain't
Speaker 1: going to running that ball trying to move up the ranks. Man,
Speaker 1: it's a hypothetical, you know, just like that. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping it happens. I've been I've been saying I've
Speaker 1: been saying it for a while, but I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I saw it in the second half of last of
Speaker 1: last week, and hopefully that light switch is still on
Speaker 1: and hasn't gone anywhere. If not, we're gonna get ran
Speaker 1: out of the building by Arizona. Um. Let me push
Speaker 1: back on something you said here Danny. Okay, you talked
Speaker 1: about the defensive linement at the bottom. Okay, Uh, there's
Speaker 1: botify players interior run um and it was Don Terry
Speaker 1: po number seventy two, Antoine Wood seventy three, Tyrone Crawford
Speaker 1: seventy four. So you've just lost the best defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: Now the other three put in respect the old one
Speaker 1: day man, you know he was I'm just saying I
Speaker 1: thought he said he wasn't in there. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: what about Hill? Was not just saying that three When
Speaker 1: Danny let, when he let, he said, man, we had
Speaker 1: the three bottom and three lines at the bottom. He
Speaker 1: was he was including Hill, And I'm just saying, like, naa, bro,
Speaker 1: he wasn't one of them. He was the best of
Speaker 1: the buets. So this means now that ol Woods and Crawford,
Speaker 1: this is what you've got. So it can't get worse.
Speaker 1: By man, that's all time saying. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It can only it can only get better. So you
Speaker 1: know we're looking up. We're looking up. Okay, Well, I'm concerned.
Speaker 1: And at this point in time, maybe maybe the light
Speaker 1: goes on for Nevin Galimore and Gallimore and maybe he
Speaker 1: can can you know, get out here and do his thing.
Speaker 1: He's got an opportunity, is Jason Garry always use that
Speaker 1: word opportunity. He's got an opportunity right now that he
Speaker 1: can get out here. Oh wow, okay, listen you you
Speaker 1: ow j G this week, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Last eight Church. By the way, yesterday I talked to
Speaker 1: New Yor you know, offline, and he said that Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett called a wonderful game. He called a wonderful offensive game.
Speaker 1: So you know, we can so we can't. We can't
Speaker 1: get no praise on the players loud. So yeah, here's
Speaker 1: what's interesting. Here's what's interesting. Yeah, you go check social media,
Speaker 1: Like Jason Garrett saved all these players to come back
Speaker 1: and throw them on Jerry, the players he didn't run
Speaker 1: when he was here. Social media, social media, just jumping
Speaker 1: on social media, jumping on j G about that. But yes,
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett had a good game plan. And if it's
Speaker 1: not for the tikie tack call, you know that that
Speaker 1: special team's touchdown, I think they end up winning that
Speaker 1: football game. But it didn't happen. The Cowboys won. Uh
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones three yard I mean the guy looked decent.
Speaker 1: I still think they're a bad football team. But this
Speaker 1: is what the Cowboys defense can do for you. Man.
Speaker 1: They can sit around here, can look good. They could
Speaker 1: make me think about what looked like he's he's he
Speaker 1: can call plays and Daniel Jones looks like a real court.
Speaker 1: That's what this cowboy Dan can do for you. They
Speaker 1: didn't get you, right, I mean, think about what you
Speaker 1: just said right there. Man, They let Danny Dimes come
Speaker 1: in here and throw for over three hundred yards. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about a guy that's a walking turnover. He
Speaker 1: will throw the ball to the opposite team, and we
Speaker 1: let him come in here and look like the next
Speaker 1: reincarnation of of who knows Eli Manny, I don't know
Speaker 1: who it is, but he went out there and balled
Speaker 1: out on us, and we just can't have it. I mean,
Speaker 1: we got cowboy surprised. I was surprised. I was a
Speaker 1: little surprised. I just thought we would. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just thought, you know what JJ coming. We had
Speaker 1: throw a little juice in there. What made you think like,
Speaker 1: give me something, give me something. You know that you're
Speaker 1: seeing in New York that made you think that our
Speaker 1: defense are gonna come out here and stop Danny down.
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta point something out besides emotion. I
Speaker 1: was I was thinking, I was thinking about my heart
Speaker 1: and not my head. Man, it showed, it show I
Speaker 1: was frustrated that it was just I mean, on that
Speaker 1: pick play which they threw the flag on that the
Speaker 1: one long one of Slaton, it shouldn't even been called
Speaker 1: a pick. I mean, the guy was more through his
Speaker 1: route and the defensive backs on our side of the ball,
Speaker 1: we're on the same level. It was like a pick offence.
Speaker 1: That's the That's the main thing. Like if you if
Speaker 1: a quarterback looks out there and he sees that nickel
Speaker 1: back in the cornerback on the same level and they're
Speaker 1: playing man the man, that's an automatic rub. They should
Speaker 1: know this. But then it comes back to that coaching
Speaker 1: and it comes back to that. Oh man, it was.
Speaker 1: It was a brutal one. It was a brutal one
Speaker 1: for your boy on Sunday, the the Mike Nolan. The
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan frustration amongst the fan base is real, and
Speaker 1: it's justified here. I was talking to a scout earlier
Speaker 1: today and we'll take this break. We come back. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what this scout had to say about Mike
Speaker 1: Nolan and Danny and Barry. You can relate exactly to
Speaker 1: the criticism that was given about the Cowboys to fitsive coordinating.
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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com Slash United. You were in the players
Speaker 1: lounge of NUIs Scrubs, longtime Cowboys reported joined by former
Speaker 1: Cowboys players Danny McCray and Barry Church. So got on
Speaker 1: the phone with a NFL scout and he says, all right,
Speaker 1: here's what I'm hearing according to people he's talked to
Speaker 1: her with the Star says, Mike Nolan's playbook is thick.
Speaker 1: It's very thick. And he says, guys are not getting
Speaker 1: the playbook, which is why you're seeing them struggle. Which
Speaker 1: reminded me of something that you guys pounded home all
Speaker 1: off season about what happened with you guys with Rob
Speaker 1: Bryan when he was a Cowboys defensive coordinator and you
Speaker 1: didn't have an off season. Rob came in here with
Speaker 1: a huge, thick defensive playbook and it was not a
Speaker 1: good result. Nah, not at all. And look, I mean
Speaker 1: it's hard learning a defensive playbook, especially one that's as
Speaker 1: thick as you know these guys are talking about, especially
Speaker 1: with no OTAs, no mini camp and abbreviated training camp,
Speaker 1: and you don't even really get to go out there
Speaker 1: against live bullets in preseason and kind of and kind
Speaker 1: of practice that that playbook. So for me, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's hard. It's extremely hard. But we had back when
Speaker 1: Rob Bryan was here and he tried to implement that defense.
Speaker 1: I believe we had a full offseason and it was
Speaker 1: still hard. I mean for every offensive audible or check
Speaker 1: and he had another check with me, so like every
Speaker 1: time they motioned, we would check with him and decide
Speaker 1: which we wanted to play with a defense we wanted
Speaker 1: to play. So it was extremely hard, man, And I
Speaker 1: can only feel what these players are going through because
Speaker 1: I mean, with all that abbreviated offseason, to go out
Speaker 1: there and try to perform at a high level when
Speaker 1: you don't really know the playbook, I mean, it slows
Speaker 1: your game down because you're out there thinking too much,
Speaker 1: and boys aren't aren't just going out there reacting. So
Speaker 1: I can feel with these boys what they're saying as
Speaker 1: far as the playbook being a little too difficult. Hold
Speaker 1: on absolutely, you know what, I'm not letting these dudes
Speaker 1: off the hook with this playbook team. I think none
Speaker 1: of that, bro, I'm not letting it happen. We have
Speaker 1: talked about this on the show for the last few
Speaker 1: weeks at about the type of mistakes. We're not talking
Speaker 1: about schematic mistakes. We're talking about technical mistakes and hustle
Speaker 1: if you like. That has nothing to do with the playbook,
Speaker 1: all right, Like we said Warley, backing up until the end,
Speaker 1: Zoe had absolutely nothing to do with the playbook. He
Speaker 1: knew who he had man a man, he knew what
Speaker 1: he was supposed to do, and he didn't do it.
Speaker 1: Just like we just talked about it on the pick play,
Speaker 1: they had nothing to do with ski They knew that
Speaker 1: they were a man to man and they got picked
Speaker 1: and luckily they got the call against Cleveland. They weren't hustling,
Speaker 1: nothing to do with the scheme. They just didn't do it.
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna put it all on the scheme.
Speaker 1: And if you watch the defense, to me, it really
Speaker 1: doesn't look that complicated against Seattle. When they got beat
Speaker 1: on those d plays, it looked like a simple cup
Speaker 1: of four play with odds in the backfield, and that
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with scheme. That was just them
Speaker 1: not being disciplined. So I think a lot of this
Speaker 1: is on the players not doing what they're supposed to do,
Speaker 1: and that goes to your position, coaches, as much as
Speaker 1: it goes on Nola. All Right, it's Tuesday, and we
Speaker 1: have the rarity. We have Tuesday Night football. The Buffalo
Speaker 1: Bills are in Nashville to take on the Tennessee Titans. Gentlemen,
Speaker 1: have you ever played or even going back to college,
Speaker 1: if you ever played on a Tuesday night you damn right.
Speaker 1: I played on it university, man. I was a part
Speaker 1: of the map. Man. We play on Monday, Tuesday, Saturday, Friday,
Speaker 1: don't matter, Wednesday, and I tell you what, you was
Speaker 1: expecting to go to class the next morning at seven am.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was ridiculous. So I know exactly what
Speaker 1: they're doing. I'm not. I don't feel sorry for none
Speaker 1: of these players, y'all making millions. I wasn't making nothing
Speaker 1: but a stipen check to pay my rent in college.
Speaker 1: So look, I know what they're going through. They need
Speaker 1: to get their bust ready to play and Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: show up because I need you for my fantasy team. Man,
Speaker 1: I need you. Yeah, I listen. You know, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: I hurt you like that man right there? Man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the great LSU Louisiana State University. We never had to
Speaker 1: play on Tuesday. Uh, but it looks like we should
Speaker 1: be playing on Tuesdays. You know what. We've been rolling
Speaker 1: out there this season so far. So you know, you know,
Speaker 1: gladly we haven't had to so Church, I do not
Speaker 1: understand your pain. But these dudes, they know, they know
Speaker 1: what's at stake. And I think Tennessee hadn't played in
Speaker 1: two weeks. This is a second week, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so they so they should be ready. They should be ready.
Speaker 1: I think Buffalo gets the dumb though. Oh all right,
Speaker 1: let's go ahead, let's go ahead, write it down. Let's
Speaker 1: let's put it on the board here, all right, So
Speaker 1: put it that on the board. So, d Mac, you got,
Speaker 1: you got Buffalo Buffalo winning. I got Buffalo by fourteen,
Speaker 1: by the way, now by fourteen by fourteen? Wowright, absolutely,
Speaker 1: Buffalo is the truth this year. Yeah, I got uh,
Speaker 1: I got Buffalo by ten, got Buffalo by or not?
Speaker 1: But yeah, Buffalo by ten. Is it at Buffalo? Is
Speaker 1: it in Tennessee? It's in Nashville, Tennessee. M I'm still
Speaker 1: going Buffalo by ten. We're going Buffalo by ten. All right,
Speaker 1: give me Tennessee on the field goal, on the field,
Speaker 1: Tennessee on the field goal, Tennis. I don't know he's
Speaker 1: trying to steal my No. Tre Domini's name, man a
Speaker 1: name I'm given to you. Well, I mean, Tennessee, have
Speaker 1: you got plenty of time to get ready? Plenty of
Speaker 1: time to get ready? Listen, I mean think about it.
Speaker 1: I think they have plenty of time to look at
Speaker 1: all the field. They should be ready for this one.
Speaker 1: You're at home, you don't have to travel. I mean,
Speaker 1: they should be ready to play this football game. They're
Speaker 1: losing this football It all comes down to job. If
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is able to go out there and use
Speaker 1: his legs and arms, it's gonna be a rap for
Speaker 1: for Tennessee. But if they can bottle them up, they
Speaker 1: might have a chance. But like I said, I need
Speaker 1: Josh Allen the ball out because right now in Fantasy,
Speaker 1: in Danny's league, I mean, I'm getting destroyed right now.
Speaker 1: So we ain't even gonna talk about that. But in
Speaker 1: my other league, I I got a chance, man, I
Speaker 1: got a chance. So I just need Josh Allen to
Speaker 1: do what he does. Man. Okay, so we have we
Speaker 1: got some Tuesday night football here. By the way, some
Speaker 1: news that has come out that the NFL it's thinking
Speaker 1: about bubble locations and that Dallas, Fort Worth and Los
Speaker 1: Angeles are two potential places where we could see an
Speaker 1: NFL playoff bubble, gentlemen, your thoughts about that? Man, I
Speaker 1: hope they don't come to Dallas. Man, we already got
Speaker 1: enough people here. Man, it's already jam packed. I mean,
Speaker 1: they already talk about voter lines out out the way. Man. Look,
Speaker 1: it's go somewhere else, man, Go go to go to California,
Speaker 1: go to you know, Arizona or something like that. Man.
Speaker 1: I guess too many people here already, and now I
Speaker 1: already feel like it's too crowded here, man. So I
Speaker 1: ain't trying to bring no bubble in the bubble atmosphere
Speaker 1: and some more COVID people. Man, I ain't trying to
Speaker 1: do all that, man, So go somewhere else with all that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't listen unless they're gonna follow it. About the
Speaker 1: book into the team. What the NBA did. I don't
Speaker 1: think it makes sense if you go, if you have
Speaker 1: a bubble and you're gonna allow sixty seventy thousand fans
Speaker 1: to come into come into the stadium, it makes absolutely
Speaker 1: no sense. So I'd like to see, like what they
Speaker 1: really plan on doing and how they plan on making
Speaker 1: it work. But you know, if it isn't exactly like
Speaker 1: like the NBA, I'm not, I'm not. I have no
Speaker 1: confidence in it. Here's where I would I'll say this
Speaker 1: to you, Danny. I think depending on how we see
Speaker 1: November and December, go if it gets bad. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've paid attention to the news or not,
Speaker 1: but over in Europe they've had cases of COVID come
Speaker 1: back strong, and we're talking about some cases in London
Speaker 1: where it's in Spain where it's as bad as it
Speaker 1: was in March. So if there's a second wave of
Speaker 1: coronavirus it hits and it affects NFL teams, then maybe
Speaker 1: the NFL has to go to a NHL NBA like
Speaker 1: bubble where you just simply say, okay, we're bringing folks here,
Speaker 1: we're locking you up. Um And I do think we
Speaker 1: see an eighteenth week. I think we'll see an eighteenth
Speaker 1: week here. So so I think that that, you know,
Speaker 1: if it goes the way the method, you know, the
Speaker 1: true scientists are saying, you may have to do that
Speaker 1: very thing, Danny, and then you go have people trying
Speaker 1: to go get wings and folks speaking. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. There's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 1: fun because there's a lot more players will be in
Speaker 1: this NFL bubble. You're gonna bring them. The Texas were
Speaker 1: like one of the most lenient, lenient states in the
Speaker 1: in the country right now. Yeah, and that's where you're
Speaker 1: gonna bring them to. I think we seventy five right now.
Speaker 1: Bars opening up church, they never closed. They never closed church,
Speaker 1: you right, But the NFL can impose whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: stipulations they want. They can sit there. We don't care
Speaker 1: if the bars are open. You guys are limited and
Speaker 1: you can only go to these certain areas. Man, I
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna be able to control all those
Speaker 1: NFL players. I mean, it's wishful thinking, but I do. Man,
Speaker 1: I don't know about that one. But don't you But
Speaker 1: wouldn't you like to see it wouldn't you like to
Speaker 1: see it though you got it. You'd like to see
Speaker 1: if it's a trader, at least let it happen here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: happened that it happened right here. Something to talk about
Speaker 1: on the players that'll give us something exactly. You know what,
Speaker 1: you guys will never go back to the Star because
Speaker 1: I'm sure that has a star, so hey check check man.
Speaker 1: Listen listen. I hate, I hate to go backwards, but
Speaker 1: like I did, get to bring this up, you know,
Speaker 1: because we all been on the expecting and hoping and
Speaker 1: you know, whatever all this happens, I got to get
Speaker 1: back on Dak one more time for this, just for
Speaker 1: some of us to think about to borrow. If Dak
Speaker 1: doesn't heal up in the expected time, right and let's
Speaker 1: say it's a setback and we start getting into September
Speaker 1: and then October to where he's not active yet, what
Speaker 1: do you see happening contract wise for him? You're saying
Speaker 1: if he's not ready, bad october of next year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because so so so right now, they say they're expecting
Speaker 1: him to be an Ota is a mini camp and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Say that say the guy's not able
Speaker 1: to perform. What the franchise tag is? What July like
Speaker 1: the middle of July, Yeah, deadline? So so so so
Speaker 1: how does his health around that time affect the Cowboys decision?
Speaker 1: Right if he hadn't already signed a deal by the end,
Speaker 1: they don't know if he's healthy, They don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on with his health, doesn't and they and they
Speaker 1: have the franchise tag in his face. That's just something
Speaker 1: to think about. Look, I mean, it's real simple. If
Speaker 1: they don't have a long term deal July fifteenth, they
Speaker 1: tag him again, he has to play on it. Then
Speaker 1: you start to ask yourself this question, is he going
Speaker 1: to show up to camp? I don't think so, you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's the big question. Does he show up to
Speaker 1: camp and you could? You know, your worst case scenario
Speaker 1: is you're dealing with it Andrew Luck like you where
Speaker 1: they kept telling everybody, Oh, Andrew Luck, it's fine, he's fine,
Speaker 1: he's fine. God never played the whole season, So that
Speaker 1: that's your worst case scenario. You know, that worst scenario
Speaker 1: of there's no deal done, the franchise tag and he
Speaker 1: doesn't come to camp, and when he finally does show up,
Speaker 1: that that he's not able to do what you want
Speaker 1: to do, and maybe he doesn't play the whole See
Speaker 1: that that's that's your worst case scenario, that you've got
Speaker 1: thirty seven million dollars wasted. That could potentially happen. I
Speaker 1: don't think it will, but I have to account for
Speaker 1: the possibility because from Danny for what you're saying and
Speaker 1: you're throwing out there, Okay, yeah, it could be there,
Speaker 1: but they're they're going to have some working knowledge I
Speaker 1: believe by July to know where Dak Prescott is to
Speaker 1: see if they want it, you know, proceed with the deal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's my point. That's my point though you know,
Speaker 1: like you know, COVID might not be over. They might
Speaker 1: they might have to go through the same type of
Speaker 1: offseason that they went through now where they don't really
Speaker 1: get to see much of that. They don't really get
Speaker 1: to see much of how he can performing in him
Speaker 1: running around and being around the team. You might you
Speaker 1: might have to be the cam new situation, like we
Speaker 1: don't really know. Okay, you know, Danny, I I'm glad
Speaker 1: you brought it there. And as we get ready to
Speaker 1: end this year, we got sixty seconds. I'm gonna end
Speaker 1: this with what Jerry Jones spoke about on his radio
Speaker 1: show today, and he said he prefers to live in
Speaker 1: the land of una the word nia nativity, okay, na. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you like to be you know, you have a
Speaker 1: ten so so so that's Jerry, you know, um, so
Speaker 1: he'd rather be naive. So Jerry's gonna live in the
Speaker 1: land of naive a tech. That's the word naive a tech.
Speaker 1: So Jerry's prefers to live there. So you bring up
Speaker 1: this real world scenario. Jerry's not wanting to think that.
Speaker 1: He wants to be optimistic and think it's all roses
Speaker 1: and rainbows and everything will workout. That is our time today,
Speaker 1: all the Players lash Danny will be back with more
Speaker 1: negative scenarios tomorrow and at that point in time for
Speaker 1: Harry Church, Danny mccraie, not Newess Scruggs, and of course
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