1 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Lets go. Are you 3 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 5 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: It is Tusay, October eighth, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, episode 8 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: number fifty nine. Welcome to another edition of The Break 9 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: Life and Yes, WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. What 10 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: I thought I might have to host the show, didn't 11 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: know and senior all day, I thought it was going 12 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: to be sixty. But I do have. I do have, 13 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: like a job outside of just getting ready for the show. Yeah, 14 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: you're right, no respect. I'm saying you might miss it. 15 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: You thought I was gonna miss it? Possible. You have 16 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: missed shows in the past where everyone in a while, 17 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: it happens, we get everyone happened off and during the season. 18 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: There's never a time when I missed the show. When 19 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm not when I'm happy to miss the show. I 20 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: love coming in doing the show with you guys. Danny 21 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: joining us again today, special guests, Thank you for joining 22 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: us always. Yep, Dave, Hi, Hi Derek. I ever know 23 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: why I went up an active there puberty puberty date 24 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: right there with a beard with a beard, right, a 25 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: full grown beard. Hi. All right, we got a lot 26 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: of stuff to talk about today. It's a gumbo show, 27 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: so we'll dip all around the NFL and around the 28 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys and what. It's nothing. Sorry, we'll just see what 29 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: the where the show takes us. We got a lot 30 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: of stuff we can talk about, all right. So I 31 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: want to start first though, with injuries for a few 32 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: guys coming out of this game. A couple of guys 33 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: that were injured going into the game, but I just 34 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: kind of want to get some status on where they are. 35 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: Lyle Collins talking to me about where he is at 36 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: this point, and he did get hurt during the game, 37 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: left the game. Um, where what do we know about 38 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: him at this point? No two knees are the same, 39 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: No two injuries are the same. But it's an MCL 40 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: sprain and we're talking about it like he's gonna have 41 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: a chance to play Sunday, which is one of those 42 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: this is insane type of things, because that's what knocked 43 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: that l football is that's what's knock Dan swine Woods 44 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: out since September fifteenth, It's been three weeks and all 45 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: the difference Again, two different knees, two different sprains, two 46 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 1: different guys. I get that. Still kind of crazy to 47 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: think he could play six days after spraining his MCL. Yeah, yeah, 48 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: And I think when you look at the team, and 49 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: I hate to do this, you know, you look at 50 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: it all. You're playing an O and four team against 51 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: the Jets, and they do have some talent though up front, 52 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: so you know off the quarterback back, you do have 53 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: their quarterback back. Yeah, he's the they named him the starter. 54 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: He's going to start. Good. Good for him, So does 55 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: change things a bit, Sam Arnold, for those of you 56 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: aren't familiar, wad you go that? Well? Because there, Yeah, 57 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: he's not the best, but I mean there'll be a 58 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: better football team with him. He'll have some games where 59 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: he's like really really good. So for some reason, the 60 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: gutboys tend to make some players become really really good. 61 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: So it happens. Yeah that really what I was talking 62 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: about was going back more to Lyle. Let's say he 63 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: doesn't play, I think the who starts Cam. That probably 64 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: depends on Tyrn Smith, which he is. They're optimistic about 65 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: him coming back from his ankle, which is again promising 66 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: crazy high ankle sprain, and might be on the field 67 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: two weeks later. If if it's if Tyron plays, then 68 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: I would say it's Tyrant and Cam. If Tyrant doesn't play, 69 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: then it's probably sixty minutes of Cam and Brandon Knight. 70 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: Well take I would, honestly, I think i'd start Brandon Knight. 71 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: I think I would at right tackle. First of all, 72 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: tell me how did he play this last Sunday when 73 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: he had to play in relief of Lyle Collins. I 74 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: think he played well based off of that um But 75 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: I think that yeah, I think we're grading, you know, 76 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: on We're not grading on a curve there. We're like, 77 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: hey this this guy. Um, No, we are actually because 78 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: he comes in it's like, oh man, it's Brandon Knight. 79 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: He's never played before. It's not too bad. But yeah, 80 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: Dak almost got killed a couple of times. But I 81 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: think he hung in there pretty good. Almost died. But 82 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: I thought he played very well for an undrafted rookie 83 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: who spent more time at guard than tackle the last 84 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: two months to come in cold off the bench in 85 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: the third quarter. I thought he played very well. It's 86 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: not he wasn't perfect, That's not what I'm saying. But 87 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: I thought he handled the circumstances great. But if Lyle Collins, 88 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: that was Lyle Collins, we would be wondering if he 89 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: you know, why did they sign him? Yeah, but get 90 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: I gread on a curve. Yeah, you I always say that. 91 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I hold him to a different standard 92 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: than Brandon Knight. Yeah, and I grade on a curve 93 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: when it's progress reports. But when it's time for the 94 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: end of the year of report card that I mean, 95 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: it is what it is. I mean, Yeah, we disagree 96 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: on We always always will mean, Dad, No, we we 97 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: will always disagree. We've done several times. Is Blake Jarwin 98 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: better than Jason Witten? Well, you know what I mean? 99 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: Stuff like my expectations for a player always influence how 100 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: I perceive, like how I grade them. You know, So 101 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: Antoine Woods gets a higher grade last year for where 102 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,679 Speaker 1: he was coming out of training camp as opposed to 103 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: a Malie Collins or any other you know, then how 104 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: you would even grade him this year coming out? Yeah, 105 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: my expectations for him are different than the Yeah, anyway, 106 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: that's a different conversation. But speaking if he was warming 107 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: up kind of going back to injurance, he was warming 108 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: up with them. I mean, no, he wasn't going to play, 109 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: but he was warming up. Yeah, he confusing me. He 110 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: had that jersey T shirt on. What what was he wearing? 111 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: It was like, do you have his jersey? He was 112 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: just wearing his jersey. Yeah, he bore his jersey with 113 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: sweatpants and just kind of, you know, kind of like 114 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: kind of high school vibes, like trying to we one 115 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: of the guys and you know, I don't mean that 116 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: it is that's what back to the high school. You 117 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: still got the jersey, that's right, you know. And he 118 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: had different pants on Minesota's Quinn. So you never know 119 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: what's going on with that. I think Antoino play this 120 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: week just me wildly speculating on a Tuesday Omas did 121 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: they miss him last week? Well, Aaron Jones looked like, 122 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: you know, but Jim Brown. But but when we talked 123 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: about it yesterday, I think we all agreed the linebackers 124 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: were the biggest issue. So it was a defensive line 125 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: just as much a part of that. I disagree. I 126 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: think when he gets to the linebacker, I mean, you 127 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: don't want it to get to the linebackers all the time. 128 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: And yeah, but I think again, what I was saying 129 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: at least, and I'm not gonna speak for you guys, 130 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: what I was saying from what I was watching, it 131 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: looked like there were situations because everybody has immense gap integrity, 132 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: everybody has a gap, and it looked like the linebackers 133 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: weren't filling their gaps. That's not necessarily about the defensive line. 134 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: I didn't see a lot of defensive lineman necessarily getting 135 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: just thrown around and moved out of the way. It 136 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: just seemed like there were gaps that weren't being filled, 137 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: and I thought those were the gaps that the linebackers 138 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: should fill. The linebackers didn't play well, but I thought 139 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: the defensive tackles got washed out of the out of 140 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: the play pretty frequently last week. And maybe they were 141 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: put pressing to rush the passer because you know, Rogers 142 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: is so important to everything the Packers want to do. 143 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: But I don't I really, I'm not sure anybody in 144 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: the front seven had a good game. I mean, not 145 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: a not a great one. The guy. It actually did 146 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: stand out a couple of times was Covington now as 147 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: making a good play. Sometimes when you get washed out, 148 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: you don't see that they're out of the picture, you know. 149 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, nobody upfront really played well. And there's a 150 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: reason he starts. I think getting you're starting one technique 151 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: back would be big this week. But isn't that how 152 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: Rod kind of teaches this whole thing that he kind 153 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: of tells him that here's your gap, and get up 154 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: your gap and get up feel and so it's it 155 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: may look like they're getting washed up when really they 156 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: had their gap. It's just their gap was not where 157 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: the ball went, and somebody else is responsible for that gap. 158 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: Well true, I mean I'm not saying it's just on them, 159 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: but it's just like with any position, you want your 160 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: starter back out there. So the last couple of games, 161 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: he's been out with three games he missed the Dolphins game, right, 162 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: two three. Yeah, he's been out since the Dolphins game. Yeah, 163 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: it'd be nice to have the stability of having your 164 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: starter back out there, right. Yeah, you would think that 165 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: he can make a difference because I mean, you know, 166 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm I don't think the defensive tackles played their best game, 167 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: Goatteth Packers. All right? Talking about cam Fleming, how did 168 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: he perform last week? In relief of Tyren Smith actually 169 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: got in an argument with Rob Phillips about that. Yesterday 170 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: is a new and Rob, yeah, I know right, Yeah, 171 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: what's that? What they are? You treat a camp? Yeah? 172 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: How do I miss that? I again, I guess Finn 173 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: argument it's for it's not expect again, expectations or everything. 174 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: And I like, I was like, you know, for not 175 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: being Tyron and coming in and you know we've seen 176 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: we've seen left tackles give up seven sacks when Tyron 177 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: wasn't in there before. I thought he played all right. 178 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: And like when I say all right, I mean they 179 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: didn't lose this game because of cam Fleming's inability to 180 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: protect Dax. So like that's that's what I and Rob 181 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: was like, you can't be serious, Like he did not 182 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: play well, Like there were flags, there were sacks, there 183 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: was all and he makes a valid point, yeah, you know, 184 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: compared to he didn't play a very good game, But 185 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: it like, did they lose because of their inability to 186 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: protect Dak from from edge rushers? I don't think like 187 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: Zadarius Smith and Preston Smith had good games, like, yes, 188 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: I know, but that's not why they lost, you know, 189 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: and not in my opinion at least, maybe it's a 190 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: part of it. Sure, yeah, I mean no, I can 191 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: always yes, you can always point fingers and lost. In 192 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: a game like this, there was lots of reason to go. 193 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: I mean there was because you can't just go with 194 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: stats and when it comes to the left tackle of 195 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: how many times he gave up a sack or whatever, 196 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: because all it takes is a couple of plays early 197 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: in the game, and then you have to ask yourself, 198 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: did Dak play well? Did Dak look like he was 199 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: ever rushing? Yeah he did. He had some throws that 200 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: he normally doesn't make, and so you know, you don't 201 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 1: have to worry about it when seventy seven's over here. 202 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: But when it's not seventy seven and you're already getting 203 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: hit a couple of times, that might change, you know what, 204 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: So I we max protecting more than we normally. Well, 205 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that get affected by early 206 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: pressure an ultimate team game, right, But if you were 207 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: going to rank the reasons why they lost, like minus 208 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: three in turnover differential packers averaging five yards a carry. 209 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: Where do you put that? How much of that stems 210 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: from him feeling pressured? Okay, that's what I'm asking. Where 211 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: do you put there? Okay, so let me ask this question. 212 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: Let's let's simplify those two things. If this game you 213 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: had to put it on one or the other, offense 214 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: or defense as to the main reason why the Cowboys lost, 215 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:31,599 Speaker 1: which one do you go? That's stuff? Um? Defense? I 216 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: put it on the defense because, I mean, look, you 217 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: lose the turnover battle by three. That's really bad. But 218 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: helping the defense. It's not helping the defense. But the 219 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: defense just didn't put up much in the way of 220 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: resistance either. I mean again, Aaron Jones one hundred and 221 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: eighty five combined yards I think seventy five receiving and 222 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: one oh seven rushing. First opponent to ever rush for 223 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: four touchdowns against the Cowboys in a game, I think too, 224 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: if you don't have such an early deficit, allows the 225 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: Cowboys to have more options in terms of running the 226 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: ball and not having to rely on getting those yards. 227 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: But why did they have a deficit? Was it because 228 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: of their offense? I mean, if it was, what was 229 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: it at halftime. But I mean that on the defense, 230 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: what if it was seventeen to thirteen. What if it 231 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: was seventeen to ten, Yeah, wouldn't be a deficit. I 232 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: mean we were late into the third quarter and still 233 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: thirty one three. I think that lost because of the offense. 234 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: That's I mean, that's a great question. That's a hard 235 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: thing to definitively answer, because let's beat Garrett. The offense 236 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: put the defense in a terrible spot. The defense didn't 237 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: necessarily rise to that occasion either. Yeah. I mean, it's 238 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: like when Garrett was asked about the first interception, was 239 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: it on Cooper or was it on dec He's like 240 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: that could have thrown a better ball, Cooper could have 241 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: made a better catch. Moving on, offense, could have played 242 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: better defense, and both true too, both can be true. 243 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: Garrett's really good. Sorry, let's make some kicks on special teams. 244 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: Let's let them in there. I got a whole segment 245 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: special for special teams. We got a whole special segment 246 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: for special teams. Let's go and take our first break. 247 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: We come back. I do still want to ask one 248 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: of the question about the offensive line. I want to ask, 249 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: do you guys think that At this point, let's assume 250 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: for a second that both your starting tackles are out 251 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: to the Cowboys. Consider Connor Williams and maybe sliding him 252 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: out to tackle as opposed to going with Fleming and 253 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: going with Brandon and I. We'll talk about that when 254 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: we come right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. Well, 255 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: a player can look good on paper, it's one he's 256 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: out on the field that you really find out what 257 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: he's made of. 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It is the second segment of 292 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: the Break Life Nest WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. 293 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: We're doing a show. We're talking about a little bit 294 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: of everything. We've been spending some time in the offensive line. 295 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: Question I posed right before the break was do you 296 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: think the Cowboys should consider moving Connor Williams out the 297 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: tackle assuming that Tyran and Lyle both are out for 298 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: this next game? Would you consider moving Connor out there 299 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: to get a better five offensive alignment onto the field 300 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: and you're putting Xaviers to a Filo at left guard, 301 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: or you take your thing between him and Joe. Both 302 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: of them I think are really good. Xavier has been 303 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: the first guy off the bench when he would probably 304 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: so this is if both of them can't play. Both 305 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: your tackles are out this game, you can either go 306 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: with Brandon Knight and Cam Fleming and you don't have 307 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: to move any other pieces, or you can take Connor 308 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: and put him at one of those positions and throw 309 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: one of the other guard tell you this, have Cam 310 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: out there. I would at least get Connor some practice 311 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: at tackles so you can do it if if if 312 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: it starts going south, yeah, I would at least get 313 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: him some reps fields where he played in college. Yea, necessarily, 314 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: it's so new. I know it's changing two positions. Yeah, 315 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: he played at left tackle. Right yeah, left. Yeah, it's 316 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: a pretty good tackle. That's I'm kind of I'm I'm 317 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: tempted to punt on this question just because I feel 318 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: pretty good that Tyrant's going to be able to play. Yeah, 319 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: like the just play alone. Can you know? Well, I 320 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: just you know, bait, I worry that we're gonna like 321 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: scare the crap out of some of our listeners talking 322 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: about Okay, let's make it clear we think or Dave 323 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: thinks that Tyrant's going to play. Yeah, now play the game. Okay. Yeah, 324 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: I mean you're you're trying to figure out who that 325 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: you're five best, right, and we don't really know if 326 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: if if putting him at right tackle, Connor Williams actually 327 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: putting him at tackle, because if they both don't play, 328 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: I think I put him at left tackle and I 329 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: put Cam back on the right side. Put Connor at 330 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: left tackle. Yeah, it's where he played. No, it's gonna 331 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: play I mean because because teams are who do you 332 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: think about a run blocker? No, And we've had this conversation, 333 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: should be the guard, right You think we've had this 334 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: conversation a few dozen times. Is like, I you know, 335 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: I don't know that the left tackle right tackle thing 336 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: means as much as it did back in the old 337 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: days of the NFL. I could think, well, yeah, but 338 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: it does matter from a standpoint the actual tackle himself, 339 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: not so much the competition he goes against right. But 340 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: there it's different when you're think about just doing anything 341 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: left handed versus right. Yeah, it changes right. So that's 342 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: the part where well Dak is still right handed. So 343 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: I mean, and he's not, you know, it doesn't have 344 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: eyes in the back of his head like most quarterbacks 345 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: other than Tony. But there's another guy in the league 346 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: doing that too. Now I forgot who it was. I 347 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: saw a couple mightbeve my homes. He's unbelievable. But but 348 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you still have to worry about, you know, 349 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: your blind side, and I think that was affecting him 350 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: last week. I really do. I think he got a 351 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: little figure happy rattled on his way to four sixty three. Really, 352 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: I do, I do, don't you? I mean, I don't know. 353 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: I mean he was terrible, honestly, But that's that's Deck. 354 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: Deck has these moments to win for whatever reason when 355 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: he's just not completely on. I mean, we've seen that. 356 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: This is not new true, but he had some throws 357 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: in there. I mean, like you can say what you want, 358 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: and I know it's been said probably on other shows 359 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: that he really only had one pick or two picks 360 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: whatever he if that's the case, he really could have 361 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: had five, you know, I mean, he was lucky to 362 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: have three. He got two back. The other argument, though, 363 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: is that in the offseason we're hearing from John Kitna 364 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: and Kellamore. You know, we want him to just rip it. 365 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: We wanted to throw it. So do you see this 366 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: more as confidence, like he's willing to take more risks. Hmm. 367 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: I wonder if Jason Garrett wants him to just let 368 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: it rip like that. I don't know when you like, yeah, 369 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: letting it rip is important, but like the too, the 370 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: throw that got picked off over the middle by Sullivan, 371 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: that's not letting it ripped. That's just not reading it right, 372 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: same same things I'm saying, I guess just generalized. I 373 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: want him to be confident and be willing to throw. 374 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: And you know, but that's like where you make like 375 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: a high percentage throw where like you know, my guy's 376 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: gonna get it or they're not gonna get it. Not 377 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: let me forget about this safety that dropped in coverage 378 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: that I just don't see it happens. I mean, I 379 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: don't know where he ranks now, but I believe Brett 380 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: Farr retired as the all time leader in touchdowns. He's 381 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: not anymore, but he was. He might still be the 382 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: all time leader in interceptions, sure so, and he was 383 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: a gun slinger like that. And then you do that 384 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: Romo was guilty of that, as water Sales calls them, 385 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: those indiscriminate throws, right. Yeah, so that's a good point. 386 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: But a couple of those throws though that deck made it, 387 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: and then he got away with some penalties that kind 388 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: of wiped out some of those interceptions as well. I 389 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: do think we're getting back, we're getting off the rails. 390 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: I do think him kind of knowing that his whatever 391 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: mental clock was a little bit, you know, shorter this game. 392 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: So if that is true, I don't I don't want 393 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: to go as far as say I disagree with you, 394 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: but I'm not. I didn't come to that conclusion looking 395 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 1: at the game again. But will he be better off 396 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,959 Speaker 1: with Connor Williams, who hasn't played left tackle since he 397 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: was in college doing that for him? Or Cam? Yeah? 398 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: Cam Fleming who isn't as good as Tyring but has 399 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: played a lot of left tackle in the league. Or 400 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: Connor Williams who was all big twelve two years ago 401 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: and hasn't done it since. You know what, I think 402 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: he'd probably feel better with Cam. I think so too, 403 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: And I would feel better with Cam. Yeah. I think 404 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: we're also taking it to a different level too. We're 405 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: thinking about the third and nine plays where you know, 406 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: here comes a rush or whatever. What about keeping it 407 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: out a third and nine? And way to do that 408 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: is to run the ball on first down or second 409 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: down and actually be ahead of the change, which they 410 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: didn't do very well. So what's their best options to 411 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: run the football? You know, like a suafilo better inside? 412 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: Is it better to keep Connor in there? Is it 413 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: better to run off the right thing? You know? These 414 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: run back because we're just thinking about them pass But 415 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: you know, we all talked about it yesterday. If they 416 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: could have run the ball a little bit better, you know, 417 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: then they wouldn't have been in those situations or more. 418 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: But you run it more if you run it better. Well, 419 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: but I thought they were running the ball fine this 420 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: last game. They were fine. They weren't like like, here's 421 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: zere zere Zek and then on second down and seventy 422 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: gets stuffed for for no games. So now, yeah, that's 423 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: nature the run game. You're not every play is every 424 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: run play is not going to be four yards like, 425 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: there are gonna be some that don't work. But I 426 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: thought overall, as just the running game, I think they 427 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: were effectively using the running game in the first half. 428 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,959 Speaker 1: I think that their offense overall was making too many mistakes, 429 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: and that was more about, in my opinion, the passing game. 430 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: They were turning the ball over never. I never felt 431 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: like they were stuffed in that game. I felt like 432 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: they fell behind and then also and then holding holding 433 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: penalties thing. I looked this up this morning. They've been 434 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: flagged for holding at least three times in four of 435 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: the five games, and some of those are like offensive 436 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: holding on a punt return, so it's important to designate 437 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: between that and like an offensive lineman holding. But that's 438 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: still so thirteen holding calls this year, isn't this? Isn't 439 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: that a league thing? I thought I'd read an article 440 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: somewhere saying that across the league holding offensive holdings up, 441 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: and the league did kind of tell their officials like, 442 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: holy crap, calm with the cold with the holding, but 443 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: that an offensive past interference seemed to be two calls 444 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: that this year. Like the refs for whatever reason they 445 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: got a memoir or something, they were just like going 446 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: crazy with them. The Cowboys need to clean it up, 447 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: I mean because I and I'm thinking about it. Like 448 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,959 Speaker 1: Zach Martin twice in the season opener, remember uncharacteristic on 449 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: his part Lyle had one in Washington. I believe Connor 450 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: had one that negated a big play against the Dolphins. 451 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: Tavon had a huge one against the Packers. I know 452 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: he's called for one, the one where they it was 453 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: a home game, because I remember that the camera just 454 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: showed say, yeah, that's right, that might have been said, 455 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: that's inaccurate. That might have been the Giants too. Yeah, yeah, 456 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: I remember point being, they've done it a few two times, 457 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: two times too many. It would be nice if they 458 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: could clean that up. All right, let's move on. Let's 459 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: talk about the defense. I didn't get a chance yesterday 460 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: to talk about DeMarcus Lawrence. You look at the statuet 461 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: after the game. He had one tackle, and I think 462 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: people forget about the one play which I thought was 463 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: a phenomenal play. He probably should have been credited with 464 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: something I don't know whatever that it was just a 465 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: phenomenal play. But that play where Rogers ends up with 466 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: an incomplete pass. But it was Tyring that made that play. 467 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, not tired. It was a DeMarcus that made 468 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: that play. What do you guys to think about him? 469 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: And not only how he played in this game, but 470 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: really going back to the last two games, there's a 471 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: lot of criticism out there right now about DeMarcus Lawrence 472 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: and him getting the big contract and now, according to 473 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: many people, fans out there saying that he's not necessarily 474 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: living up to that contract. What are your thoughts? You know, 475 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: I don't I don't agree with it because you gotta 476 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: remember DeMarcus um sort of like Byron Jones in the 477 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: sense of like, if you really watch the game and 478 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: study it and don't just look at stats, you'll see 479 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: what he's really doing. And but unfortunately, and I don't 480 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: I don't like to call out the fans, especially the 481 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: ones that are listening. These are are die hard fans. 482 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: But you gotta be above that. You gotta be better 483 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: than that. He's made the Pro Bowl the last two years. 484 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: The first year he had a lot of sacks. Second year, 485 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: what do you have? Last year? Like ten maybe ten 486 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: and a half half. I mean he was there was 487 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: a lot more players in the league that had more sacks. 488 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: But they're seeing what a complete player that he is. 489 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: And yeah, they didn't play well in this last game, 490 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: but you know, they played really well the game before. 491 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: But it's like it's like it doesn't matter so much, 492 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: you know, as long as they're not winning. I think 493 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: he's doing a good job. He was on pace for 494 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: ten sacks before this last game. He could get a 495 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: sack in this game and probably get back on that pace. 496 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: I think he's playing fine, but not going to ever 497 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: judge him by the numbers. He's more of a player 498 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: than that. We've talked about that too, and he's been 499 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: being double teamed, and it's it's an issue of we've 500 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: said every player who gets a big contract, this is 501 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,479 Speaker 1: the criticism they have. Dak hasn't even signed a new 502 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: contract and he's getting that after this week's game. So 503 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think it's DeMarcus is playing terribly. 504 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: I think it's again which we've talked about too, the 505 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: offensive line of defensive line. You can't just look at 506 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: the stats. You have to look at the game and 507 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 1: see what they're doing that isn't showing up in the numbers. 508 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I've I've been beating the drum defending him 509 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: since the season started. I don't feel differently, although I 510 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: mean just in general, like nobody you go watch the 511 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: Saints game, you can see the effort held him out 512 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: of the end zone, all that good stuff. I don't 513 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: think anybody on the defense had like this commendable performance 514 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: against the Packers, Like they were unsound against the run. 515 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: They were, you know, out of alignment, didn't. I mean, 516 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: they got they deserve credit for putting pressure on Rogers 517 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: in my opinion, but they didn't keep him containing. Garrett 518 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: said it yesterday, he got out of the well quote 519 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: unquote way too often that, but go throw on the 520 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: tape and like you can see what the Packers did. 521 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: Like the tight ends are staying in with Lawrence. They're 522 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: using receivers to kind of shoulder him and chip him 523 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: as he's coming off the line. Like offenses are planning 524 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: to stop this guy, like you can while you can 525 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: see it. And it sucks because I can hear fans 526 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: and to some degree I sort of sympathize or agree 527 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: with him. Is like, you know, it's not like opposing 528 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: offenses aren't doing that to Khalil Mack. And he still 529 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: seems to be able to put his stamp on a game, 530 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So he's a different level 531 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: of dude. Yeah, well, I mean he he's not getting 532 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: paid that much more than DeMarcus, I know, but he's 533 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: still like he's better than everybody else. And you're right, 534 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: but everybody, that's what fans want, and when you're losing games, 535 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: that's what they're gonna say. They're probably entitled to say that. 536 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: I mean, if DeMarcus Lawrence has got to put up 537 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: with people saying he's not playing well enough, his gigantic 538 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: paycheck is going to hit on Tuesday morning and he 539 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: should be fine. I think he's played better than a 540 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: lot of people want to give him credit for it. 541 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody played that great of a game 542 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: against the Packers. So I'm just kind of lukewarm on 543 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: it right now. But I don't think there's some sort 544 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: of problem with DeMarcus Lawrence. Definitely not. And like, who's 545 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: doing who's saying this like it's just a general fan complaint. 546 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you see it on Twitter and fans are 547 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: questioning it, And to be honest with you, I mean 548 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: there's some radio shows that are questioning in and saying, 549 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 1: you paid him all this money. It is what it is. 550 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, this is no different 551 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: than every single person that's played with the Cowboys has 552 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: gotten a new contract. They are held in you said 553 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: at the beginning of this show, they are held to 554 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: a different standard once you make that money. There's a 555 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: different standard that's attached to it because there's a different 556 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: amount of money that's being paid. So I get it. 557 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: The only point I'm making is and what the question 558 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: I'm asking is is it really warranted? And everything I've 559 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: seen suggests that he's playing really hard, and he certainly 560 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: is still being disrupted. And that's the part that you 561 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: pay for with DeMarcus Lawrence, especially in situations where teams 562 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: are making a concerted effort to take him out of games. 563 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: Canny still be disruptive and canny create opportunities for other people. 564 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: And I think that's happening. Yeah, And I mean it 565 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,959 Speaker 1: goes all the way back to I mean, I remember 566 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: when Dion One got five years, thirty five million, seventy year. 567 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: I mean that was unheard of, you know, for a 568 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 1: corner front page of the Sports Illustrated and you know 569 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: he had three or four interceptions that year. Oh my god, 570 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: like paying all this for this, But you know, they 571 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl and Larry Brown, who was a 572 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: good average to good cornerback at best, had nine that 573 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: year and was the MVP of the Super Bowl. I 574 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: wonder why, you know, so, I mean it but it happens. 575 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: Marion Barber, Terrence Newman, Miles Austin, Doug free, Tony Romo, Brandon, 576 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: Carl Crawford. It didn't even get you get a deal 577 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: that's above what people think you should get. Yeah, and 578 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: you're not performing at a level that they think is 579 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: is commissary with that and then they're going to say 580 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: that that's a problem. You can see, you can see 581 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: the effect that you can see the spect that opponents 582 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: are giving to him, and so that is plenty of 583 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: a barometer for me. I think he's playing fine. I 584 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: think I think he could be playing better. I think 585 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: damn near everybody on the defense could be playing better. 586 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: They have not hit their stride at all. And I'm 587 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: no excuse, but I mean, you know I'm not doing 588 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: the whole guys get paid too. But if you were 589 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: to rank the tackles in the league, the tackle duo 590 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: everyone thanks Tyrn and Lyle. I bet you the Packers 591 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: have a better tackle duo in the league are very good. Batari. 592 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: Actually I saw better. I believe I saw you know, 593 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: I follow Packers beat writers. Bulaga has given up I think, 594 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: no sacks and he's played he's gone against the Neil Hunter, 595 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: de Marcus Lawrence, Khalil mac flip flops. But he's played 596 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: against him some too, like he's played a murderers row 597 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: these first five weeks and has been outstanding. So yeah, 598 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: I think DeMarcus Lawrence, just like everybody else on the defense, 599 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: could be playing better. I don't think there's some sort 600 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: of problem or you know, he's not living up to 601 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: his contract. Go out this week, get zero sacks, don't 602 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: not play well against the Jets. If this, we'll sit 603 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: here on Monday. Now we'll talk about some problems. If 604 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: it hit doubt. It doesn't have to be d law, 605 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: but like, if they cannot generate some pressure in this game, 606 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: then something's wrong. Because they've given up fifteen in the 607 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: last two. I'm glad to see Dorrence Armstrong kind of 608 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: step up there, not just the sack, he had some 609 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: other nice plays in there too. Because of the first 610 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: few weeks of the season, I was kind of like, 611 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: I mean, why are you sitting down Taco, you know, 612 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: for this guy. I mean, he's not like that much better, 613 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: but he's starting to pick it up a little bit hider. 614 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: Those guys rotate, I mean, that's what's weird about it. 615 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: We talked about this in the press box. Rod's not 616 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: afraid to rotate equally. But it's like, well they don't 617 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: pay equally. Yeah, yeah, And and it hasn't That's another 618 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: thing too. It hasn't gone lost among fans either. It's like, well, 619 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: it's third down, what's Carrie Hyder and Darrence Armstrong doing 620 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: in there. I don't have an awesome answer for it, 621 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: other than the defensive coordinator likes to rotate his defensive front. 622 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: That's all. That's all I got for you. Like, that's 623 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: that's all we know. Right all right, let's like our 624 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: final break when we come back, we got to talk 625 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: about special teams. There are a couple of guys on 626 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: special teams this last week that I don't know if 627 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: they brought us reason to be able to talk about 628 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: them on this show. So we're gonna talk about them. 629 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: We'll do that right that when we come right back. 630 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 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You get a chance, and 700 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: the Niners look like they're going to be pretty good. 701 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: The Bucks might be a team that you know, or 702 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: the Lions. What do the Lions do last week? They off? 703 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: Think they were? Oh yeah they were off. I had 704 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: a good new kickers, right, um, nice sege they might 705 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: be good. What talking about kickers and getting new kickers? 706 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: Talk to me about the Cowboys kicker? Yeah, Brett Maher 707 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 1: he he went one of three in this last game. 708 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: He missed a fifty four yard or missed a thirty 709 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: three yard or made a thirty six yard or do 710 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: you guys think the Cowboys need to be looking? Yes, 711 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,439 Speaker 1: they should be lucky. Should they make a move there? 712 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: Looking depends on who's out there there you go that honestly, Like, 713 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm not convinced. I'm not trying to convince anybody they 714 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: should feel comfortable with Brett Maher. But like I spent 715 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: the break looking at the whole break, No, not a 716 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: commercial break, not the show. I like looking at who's available, 717 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: and I mean it doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. Uh. 718 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: Cody Parkey j signed, He just signed like the double 719 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: joint guy. Yeah, the double joint guy that was like 720 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: the villain of the NFL playoffs. Yeah, it's so bad 721 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: around the league that he just got signed. But I 722 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: don't understand kicking. Blair Walsh who missed like an extra 723 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: point length kick in the playoffs a few years ago. 724 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: He's out there, uh kai for bath. I think he's 725 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: trying out or he tried out with the Titans. But like, 726 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: he's probably the most experienced NFL kicker who's available right now. 727 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: Maybe you can explain this to me, Dave. Maybe Danny, 728 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 1: I don't know how much you know. I know, Dave 729 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: love soccer. Explain to me how soccer is the most 730 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: popular sport in the world. Almost every country has players 731 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,760 Speaker 1: that play it. They're countries that are that have players 732 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: that play it extremely well. Yet the NFL can't come 733 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: up with thirty two good kickers in the NFL, Like, 734 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: what's the problem. Are they not tapping into those? So 735 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: I would assume there are guys that finished playing soccer 736 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: that have great legs that can really kick the ball, 737 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: that all you gotta do is just teach them. The 738 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: difference between teaching kicking a football versus soccer ball, But 739 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 1: I would assume that it's the same similar principles, right, 740 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: I'm saying something some of the ones that are done, 741 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: like some of the ones that are reaching towards the 742 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: end of their soccer career people who I mean, it's 743 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: different than the NFL. But in college soccer players don't 744 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: play football and went to college and just yeah, right, 745 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: I just don't understand why there aren't more kickers. What 746 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: it's one thing for quarterback that is a unique skill, right, 747 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: but there's tons It seems like there are tons of 748 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: soccer players in the world. Why is there not somebody 749 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 1: that's said, you know, I'm going to create an academy 750 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: to turn soccer players into the NFL kickers to make 751 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: a ton of money. Carley Lloyd. Yeah, I don't have 752 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: a great answer for you. I know, honestly, what's funny 753 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: is like Australian rules football is revolutionizing the punting game 754 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: in American football, like half of it seems like half 755 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 1: the good punters and college and occasionally pro football or 756 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: Australian guys. Yeah. Other than that, I don't know. I mean, 757 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: because if you're good at soccer, then it's way more 758 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: lucrative to pursue that, like, I mean, I'm talking about 759 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: Europeans and stuff like that, and then I don't know, 760 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: I yeah, I just want to I wonder if even 761 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 1: the put me on the spot. No, And I honestly 762 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: it was more of a it's probably a rhetorical question 763 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: to some degree, but I know how much you lost. 764 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: I was actually hoping that you're going to say, Hey, 765 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 1: it's such a difference between kicking it definitely? Is it? Absolutely? 766 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: It just is not translatable. Absolutely? Is it all those 767 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,280 Speaker 1: people tacking? Yeah, I mean there's the other people trying 768 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: to kill you. There's the difference in weight and shape 769 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: of the ball for that, like soccer balls or but 770 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: a strong leg right, and that seems to be that 771 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: seems to be the first completely different mechanic too, is it. Yeah, 772 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: it's it's all different. I mean, even with a freak 773 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: like if you're doing I will say, and in my 774 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: elementary understanding of both sports, I think somebody who's talented 775 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: enough to kick a soccer ball across like full field 776 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: length should be able to work on it for a 777 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: couple of years and be pretty good at kicking fields. 778 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: And that's my point. But I don't know, and I 779 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: would think that I would think that I'm not even 780 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 1: talking about your best players. I'm talking about the average 781 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: player that plays MLS soccer in the US. Could he 782 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: not in a year or two develop into a really 783 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: good NFL kicker with it really strong leg? Probably? But why? 784 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: Because MLS guys don't make near the money that NFL 785 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: players do. Probably have more job security being a solid 786 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: player for an MLS team than a kicker for an 787 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: NFL team. Yeah, I don't know what a guy it 788 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: makes for them. It depends quakes, it's the team, It's yes, 789 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: it's all. It's yeah. Both of those are teams. Sounders 790 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 1: are in Seattle. It's this is such a y'all are 791 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: so patronizing. Yeah, no, they're both teams. I want to 792 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: know they're. The spectrum of salaries in the MLS ranges 793 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: wildly depending on a lot of different factors, but some 794 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: of a lot of their players are paid quite nicely. 795 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 1: And that's my point though, is not talking about the 796 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: really great ones, talking about the ones that don't make 797 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: a ton of money. I would think they have that 798 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: kind of strong leg. But the point is, it doesn't 799 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 1: seem to know like there are enough kickers to go 800 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: around here. And so if you're gonna get rid of 801 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: maher who you're going to bring something? They don't get 802 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 1: Kobe Jones here, Like what are they what are they 803 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: gonna go do? Like I think? And Jerry said it 804 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 1: on his radio show today on one five three the 805 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: fan that basically said, just score touchdowns. Yeah, hey, that's 806 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: what the analytics people would prefer you to do. I mean, 807 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: he said that his post game two he said, we 808 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: we can't just say this game came down to field goals. 809 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: We weren't scoring touchdowns. Here's the issue I have though, 810 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 1: what's an extra point? Thirty four yards? The longest field 811 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: goal he's made is thirty six, No, and that's I 812 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: mean the well wow, really yeah, I guess this year 813 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: he hasn't made it. He's four missed fifty four this week, 814 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: mister fifty four, he's missed a fifty two. And then 815 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: what it was last year, Well, the last year was 816 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: six of seven fifty yards or more. If you promised 817 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 1: me he was just automatic from inside of like forty 818 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: that would be a start, you know. And that's the 819 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: thing that makes it troubling is like it's playing out 820 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 1: exactly how we saw it like he struggled from up 821 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: close all through training camp, and and it seems to 822 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 1: be carrying over. Here's the real issue that I have 823 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:03,240 Speaker 1: with with Maher Because most kickers, the great ones, they've said, 824 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: just put the thirty five minutes, put it down, the laces, 825 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: I'll kick the laces, I'll whatever, just to put it down. 826 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: The problem with him is that we all know that 827 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: he kicks better from one side or the other. And 828 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: he definitely knows because on extra points, if you notice, 829 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: he's on the left hash for extra points because everything 830 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: goes right well, third down Dakness is a throw. Sorry, 831 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: it's on the right hash. We need you to make 832 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 1: this kick, and what does it do? It goes to 833 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: the right. He knows it. Everyone knows it. So the 834 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: fact that he can't kick the ball exactly where he 835 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: wants to, even in the thirty three yard ors, that's 836 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: a problem for me because it's a problem for him. 837 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 1: I will say this at the risk of sounding like 838 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: I'm carrying water for the coaching staff. I think they 839 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,879 Speaker 1: are doing the only smart thing they can do right now, 840 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: because kicking is so mental, right, I mean, it's such 841 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: a mental thing. It's so really the only thing you 842 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: can do is just keep saying we believe in him, 843 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: we believe in him, we have confidence, like we don't 844 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: doubt you, and hopefully it carries over one day to 845 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: make a change. Hopefully, Yeah, and exactly like, but there's 846 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,320 Speaker 1: no sense in throwing him under the bus and completely 847 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: killing whatever confidence he has, So just speak it into existence, 848 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: I guess. And obviously if it keeps being a problem, 849 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: they'll be forced to do something. I mean, if he 850 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: misses a kick or kicks plural in this next game, 851 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: then I don't think you have a choice but to 852 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,879 Speaker 1: bring somebody in here. But for the time being, like 853 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: we look at the list, like there's no definitively better option, 854 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: you might as well just try your best to back 855 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: your guy while it still makes sense to do so. 856 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 1: Would you, guys, take a shot on a guy like 857 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: Blair Walsh that once was a really great kicker and 858 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 1: just kind of mentally fell off the map. Do you 859 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: think he's done or you think And sometimes in those 860 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 1: kind of instances, you bring a guy in different scenery 861 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,240 Speaker 1: maybe gets it bad. Happens all the time with kickers, 862 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 1: where like a guy who struggles gets a change of 863 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: scenery and plays better turning it around a little bit. Yeah, 864 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 1: he had a nice game. I'm a homer. But LSU 865 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 1: had a great kicker last year named Cole Tracy. He 866 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: made he made half a dozen big kicks for us, 867 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: and like nobody in the NFL has ever given him 868 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,240 Speaker 1: a chance. I saw he's in the XFL draft. Something 869 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: about his approach or the way the ball comes off 870 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 1: his foot, Like NFL teams are just like, no, you're 871 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: not good enough for this league, which seems crazy to me. 872 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: Like I would, at least I would at least take 873 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: a look at him. Like he was clutch as hell 874 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: in college. So I just don't understand enough about kicking 875 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: to be able to get to the bottom of that. 876 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,479 Speaker 1: But if they keep if he keeps missing kicks, they're 877 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: not going to have a choice but to look around. 878 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,800 Speaker 1: All right, guys, appreciate you. Johnis. We'll be back tomorrow 879 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,240 Speaker 1: eleven forty five till then for Nick Even, Dave Hellman, 880 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: Danny Serect. This is Derek Eagleton. This has been The 881 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has 882 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 1: been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 883 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Football Club