WEBVTT - Episode 430: Were The Mariners Just Overhyped To Start The Season? (Mailbag) 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.160 What's up, guys. Just a reminder that of coming on 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:05.000 July the twenty eighth, we have our next Mariner's Trivia 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:07.160 Night and live event with all you guys. We cannot 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:10.000 wait for it. It's over at the Emerald Queen Casino. It'll 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:13.480 be at six pm Tuesday, July twenty eighth. We're gonna 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:15.520 be doing Marinor's Trivia. We're gonna have a bunch of 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:18.560 prizes to give away courtesy at EQC, and then we'll 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:20.880 be hanging out watching Mariner's Dodgers with all you, which 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:23.200 we cannot wait to do so again. 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If you're watching on YouTube, 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:37.399 you can probably tell that we're done with All Star 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:40.800 Week because Alana look like a couple of zombies after 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:42.119 the four days have concluded. 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:44.720 Yeah, I mean, we're still sitting here in the hotel. 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:47.800 We're recording a couple of days early. You can also 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:52.000 probably tell both of our voices are shot, especially mine waking. 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:54.920 Up for a flight in four hours and eight minutes. 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.640 Yeah, as we're sitting here starting this recording, it is 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:02.640 twelve fifty two East Coast time. TJ has to get 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:05.160 up at five am for a seven thirty am flight. 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:07.920 I'm staying back because I have a wedding to go 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:11.880 to in a couple of days that's in Indiana. And yeah, 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:13.839 so here's what I always say about All Star Week. 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:18.399 I always say it is my favorite week of the year. 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.720 It's pretty high up there, one of my favorite weeks 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.440 of the year. It's a blast. You do a ton, 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.360 you see a ton of people, but a couple things 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:30.680 stay true every year. It's like clockwork. Voices are usually shot, 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:35.200 you're tired as all hell, and you're probably feeling kind 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.480 of gross in terms of being sweaty because it's always 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:39.639 in the middle of the summer in a location where 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.240 it's incredibly hot. So I would say every single one 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:44.000 of those things is checked off for us right now. 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:46.600 If people ever want to wonder how much Low and 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:50.560 I actually do like watching Mariners baseball. The fact that 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:53.400 we're sitting here as the team is playing as terribly 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:55.680 as they possibly could going into the All Star break, 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:58.960 and we're talking about the team at nearly one am 0:02:59.040 --> 0:02:59.800 on a Wednesday. 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.240 There you go, after our busiest week of the year. 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:05.400 I mean, we're completely sicks. 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:08.640 Yeah, we're psychopaths are sitting here and talking about, of 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:13.079 all teams at this early morning hour, the Seattle Mariners. 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:15.639 But you know, here we are. This week was great though. 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:17.200 Got to see a lot of people, got to talk 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:18.799 to a lot of people. We got to go on 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:20.880 the red carpet for the first time. Actually sorry, not 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:22.760 on the red carpet. We were next to the red 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:26.160 carpet as media. That was pretty fun to get to 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.560 interview players. We essentially got to take the role of 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:30.640 like most fans for all of you that go to 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.640 the park, Offen that like hound for autographs and they're 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:35.640 you know, they're up behind the dugout and they have 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:37.600 to shout at all the players just to get their 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:41.160 attention for the slim chance of an autograph. Like That's 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:43.000 kind of how Low and I felt. It's different when 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:44.720 you're you know, media on the field at a game, 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:46.400 where you get to be on the dirt and they 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:48.440 can see you eye to eye. You don't have to 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:50.600 shout at them. But Low and I are essentially like 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:53.560 screaming at all these like multi millionaires walking down the 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:54.680 red carpet in front of us. 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:56.560 We did shout at Livy done. She did not look 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:59.200 our way, though unfortunately we did. I didn't shout at 0:03:59.240 --> 0:03:59.720 Livy Doune. 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:01.040 Yeah he did. 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:05.080 No, I don't think so, what what would you chance? 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:09.400 What would we have asked Livy the trivia question Libby 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:11.560 Dunn's gonna know who hit two grand slams in an Inna. 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.920 Some of the players didn't. Yeah, So what we did 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.839 is essentially we uh for our Bullpen Banner channel. We 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:21.640 came up with a handful of trivia questions and we 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:23.800 were gonna do like eight players a piece to see 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.080 how many of them could get it right. I mean, 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:29.159 if Livvy Dunn's walking down the red carpet, then yeah, 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:31.839 I mean she's sorry. I mean, she does have to ask, 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:33.360 does have to answer the question? 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:37.080 Well, she doesn't have to. I guess if we had asked, 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:37.719 maybe she would have. 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:40.280 Oh well, you never know unless you try. But apparently 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:41.960 you didn't try. I mean I was holding the camera 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:43.599 at this moment. Lyle was the one on the rail 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:44.240 trying to ask. 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:46.200 So, I mean, if people want to peek behind the curtain, 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.880 Paul Skeens does essentially nothing in terms of media, like 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:50.599 it's it's almost to be done. I watched her do 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.359 an interview across the way from us, that's true, So 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:55.039 I mean, and she did a few things. 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:57.359 So lesson learned for next year. Come up with a 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:01.320 good question for Libby Dunn. Yeah, sure, maybe on the podcast. 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:07.760 That would be something I will say, it is very 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.120 odd doing what we did on the red carpet today. 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:12.120 We had a blast. We did an absolute blast do 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:14.080 on the red carpet. It was very fun, it was 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:17.279 very different. It's unique. And let me clarify something that 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:20.839 TJ said. When TJ says were like yelling at the 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.960 players to try to ask him a question. That's all 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:25.960 the media that's on the right carpet, right, That's not 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.440 just us. Like any media person that's out there and 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:30.840 wants to ask them a question and has a phone 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:32.400 out or a video camera out and is trying to 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:34.600 ask them something. That's how you have to get their 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:36.680 attention when they're walking down the red carpet. It's the 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:41.080 only thing you can do, which is totally totally, transparently, 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:44.800 transparently out of my comfort zone. And I know this 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.360 is how fans have to go get players attention to 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:49.960 get autographs. I don't think I could really ever do 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:51.400 that if I was a fan in the stands. I 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:55.120 just feel like, personally a little odd, like trying to 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.599 scream at a guy and get their attention. You need 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:00.760 something from them, Like TJ said, when we're on the field, 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.720 it's different because you can just ask normally some say yes, 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.560 some say no, and we've talked about that, but the 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:11.039 yelling out at them in a packed environment is totally 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:13.320 out of my comfort zone. That being said, you do 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:15.120 what you have to do to try to get some content. 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:20.400 And we got through two of the questions with about 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:22.839 we did fifteen. Yeah, so we did a set of 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.440 eight and a set of seven with two different questions. 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:27.720 And it was fun. Like a quarter of the All 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:29.600 Stars I think totally got across her. 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:31.640 It was fun, and we got some of the good 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:33.839 ones like we get like some of the guys with 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:36.880 the Bullpen Banner Channel that we've done a bunch with, 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:43.240 kurtz Adlie Rushman, Bobby Yeah, Bobby WIT's always been good 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.240 with us, So like those guys, and then if some 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:49.000 others sprinkled in. But yeah, it's very very different the 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:49.520 right carpet. 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.400 I mean, honestly, when there's like five thousand people all 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.400 screaming their names at once, I mean, you just got it. 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:55.880 You gotta be louder than everyone. 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:58.560 Else, right, And I will say, pretty similar to what 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:00.640 a red carpet. It's something like that. The oscars would 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:02.520 be like that's kind of how it is. Everybody's screaming 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:04.680 at them, everybody's trying to get their attention. It's not 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.520 that different than the I mean, the MLB red carpet 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:11.360 has its similarities to a red carpet like the oscars. 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.320 And all the players are I would say, most of 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:16.080 them are doing the exact same thing as they should. 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.000 And if I was them, I would do the exact 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:19.760 same thing. You got like tunnel vision, like you're not 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:24.600 like if you stop to like too many people then like, 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:29.320 first of all, it was hot, we were baking. I 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:32.400 think my brain like boiled to like a soft boiled 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:34.960 egg while we were standing out there on the red carpet. 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:37.880 But like you know, you you say yes, too many people, 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:39.720 then you feel, you know, obligated to go to more. 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:41.680 And then you could spend forty five minutes on the 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:44.400 red carpet, which most of these guys don't really want 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:47.520 to do, especially in a suit. Oh so so so hot. 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:49.840 So they're they're walking at you know, a brisk pace. 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:51.760 They'll stop here and there. A lot of the pitchers 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:54.080 would always stop for pitching. Ninja who was right next 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.800 to us, Yeah, rob our guy, great, he's got so 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:58.720 much poll with all the guys, even the guys who 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:01.600 never talked to Meta that much, like Chris Sale. I 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:06.240 could hear him as he's walking by. He's like, he's like, 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.800 you know, I he was. He was waving off a 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:10.880 lot of stuff. And then he tells his wife, Oh, 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.240 I got to stop for him, to stop for him, 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:14.840 He's got to stop for pitching Ninja, and he did. 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:17.040 Chris Sail's another guy that does not do a lot 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:19.400 of interviews, but he pitching Ninja. 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:21.120 That he did, right, So that I mean, if you 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:22.560 show up and you show face in front of a 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:25.000 lot of these guys, they will, you know, they'll recognize 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:27.680 you and they'll they'll do content with you. So I mean, 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:29.680 it was like it was. We ended up with a 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:31.600 very solid batch on the first day. We did not 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:33.360 get Randy. We did not get Randy. 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.520 Now I think Randy had some tunnel vision too. 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:37.480 Yeah, I think so too, Like I think a Max 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:41.760 Meyer the Marlins picture who the Mariners faced They faced him, Yeah, 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.320 they did face him. That's what I thought. He let 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:46.120 off the red carpet. I think he was up and 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:49.920 down the red carpet maybe sixty seconds. It was fast bad. 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.200 I was like wow, like wow, wow, Like that's someone 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.240 who doesn't really want to talk. But again it's like 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:57.800 it's hot out. These guys have a game to prepare for. Yeah, 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.000 they're wearing a suit, so the walk really fast. 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:03.200 They do. But we have our guys on the Bullpen 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.480 Banner channel too, like Attlee. As soon as he saw us, 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:07.640 he stopped, he dappedes Zop. He's like, you know, shoot 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:09.640 me with the question, or like, you know, shoot the 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:13.240 question at me. And you know he's great among among others. 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.880 So if you want our All Star Week experience, I 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:19.120 would say that was probably the most unique thing from it, 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:22.360 the most out of body experience TJ and I probably 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.160 had because it was something we don't usually do. 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:27.000 But it was very fun and it was kind of 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:28.640 last minute. I mean we didn't get approved for that 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:29.480 until we got here. 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:31.880 I mean most I think they sent out the emails 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:35.280 pretty late for that. So in general, so yeah, once 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.199 we knew prepared for it and you know, give it 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.280 our best shot and we got something out of it. 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.080 And the other best thing about this is getting to 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:44.880 network with a bunch of other professionals, which is really nice, 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:47.240 and get we ran into plenty of pod listeners while 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.920 we were here that made the trip either from Seattle 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:53.360 or from other places. To all of you who listen 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:56.320 from out of state, I mean, it means so much 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.880 that you do that. So thank you guys so much 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.960 for all of you that we met here. So yeah, 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:03.800 that part's pretty cool. And getting to you know, travel 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.280 a little bit and meet people and it brings lots 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.640 of opportunities. Yeah, that's that part's really fun. 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:11.320 And I love getting to see all the baseball content 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.680 people that often we only get to see once a year, 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:15.640 Like it's our chance to see a lot of them 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.000 here at All Star Week and we did, and it's 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:22.040 always a blast. It's funny. I kind of like, I 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.320 think I have a content addiction. I'm gonna be real, like, 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.000 I mean, I just love it, which I guess means 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:31.400 we're doing the right thing. But I have a like 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:35.120 for me, it's almost never enough, Like I always want more, 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:38.040 you know what I mean, everything we do, I'm always 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:39.160 focused on what we don't do. 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:39.679 I know. 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:42.360 So it's just a bad habit of mine. For example, 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.960 I'm I'm a I'm going to be a best man 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:50.360 in my closest friend from growing up, his wedding this weekend, 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:52.679 and it's going to be a blast, and I cannot 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:54.920 wait for it, and I'm thrilled for them, and obviously 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.120 I wouldn't miss it for the world, but there is 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:58.440 a little part of me in the back of my 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:00.840 head as I know Fanatic Fest is going on in 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:03.360 New York City this weekend, which is another huge content event, 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:05.800 and I'm like, man, there's all these people that are 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:08.240 gonna be there and we're gonna miss it, and I 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:11.079 can't go, and I wish I was going, even though 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:13.360 I would not train it for the wedding. This is 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:16.920 like the content edition, a content addiction that I have 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:17.760 that I'm talking about. 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.120 It's a very I was thinking of way to describe 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.320 how you think about this, So that's a very accurate 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:22.920 way to do it. 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:24.600 Oh yeah, Like I have an addiction to it. 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:27.800 I do always think you think more about what like 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.480 what's ahead instead of what we actually have to currently 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:31.280 do like today. 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.160 Yeah, oh no, that's for sure. Yeah, because I'm always 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:36.559 trying to like plan out the next thing, I guess. 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:38.920 Or it's like lyle it's uh, it's twelve forty five. 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:40.560 We got to record the podcast. 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:43.600 M HM and then I'm thinking about other things. But 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:44.720 this is also make it. 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:45.720 We'll make it there eventually. 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:48.880 Yeah, I mean next year when Tita doesn't have to 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:51.000 get back to Seattle and I don't have something going 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:54.960 on this weekend for sure. But yes, there's like always 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.040 a million things I'm trying to plan out. This is 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:58.679 why I got two hours of sleep at night when 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:00.679 I was on Brock and Salt, because even when I 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:02.839 knew I should go to bed, either I had stuff 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:06.800 I had to get done, or I was planning out 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:08.760 a million other things down the road, and then all 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:10.120 of a sudden, it's like, well, I should probably go 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:11.800 to bed, and now I'm gonna get two hours of sleep. 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.000 Yeah, I'll probably get two hours of sleep tonight. So 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:15.000 I'm gonna live your dream. 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:18.720 Yeah, exactly. There's our All Star Week recap for anybody 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:22.040 who wanted it and anybody who was interested in it. 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:25.800 It's always a blast. And you know, now I get 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:29.600 to get back to Mariners Baseball in the second half. 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:31.280 Oh, how fun? How fun is that? 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:35.160 It's weird. I didn't see Dan Wilson on the red carpet. 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:36.680 He was not on the red car. 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.240 He was no, no, wait, he wasn't there. 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:41.840 Well he put Bizarre too in instead of Munos in 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:43.160 the seventh sending of Game seven. 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:45.640 Well he did that. Oh I must have got yeah. 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:47.400 Oh yeah. The Mirrors didn't go to the World Series, 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:47.800 didn't they. 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:48.080 Yeah? 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:51.640 Yeah, Munya John, he was so Dave Roberts, Yeah, oh yeah, 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.080 Munyas wasn't in that game, was he? 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I know we're at the park often enough, 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.640 but I don't know if we're around the clubhouse enough 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:13.280 to definitively know. It certainly seems like the vibes have 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:16.960 been off this year. It certainly seems like guys aren't 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:19.440 quite as upbeat as they've been in years past. It's 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.960 certainly been seems like there's been some riffs at points 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.160 this year, not just with Cal and Randy, but with 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.920 Luis and Randy. About a week ago. Now, as you 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.880 guys are listening to this episode with the whole incident 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:34.640 in Tampa and the piggyback stuff, it does just feel 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:38.360 a little off right. I can't say if I can't 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:41.960 say if there's definitively an issue, but something does feel off. 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:46.920 I think there's a difference between a problem and stuff 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:49.000 just being off. I feel like when there's a problem, 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:53.000 you're seeing teammates throw each other under the bus, You're 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:58.400 seeing verbal altercations in the dugout, you're seeing more public displays. 0:16:58.440 --> 0:16:59.760 I know there was a bit of a stare down 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:03.840 for but honestly, like a good clubhouse, that would happen anyways, 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:07.200 because I mean, Randy didn't run after a fly ball, 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.080 and then Luise gave up a home run right after. 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.040 I'm not sure how many other ways you're supposed to 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:14.159 react to that. It doesn't seem to me like there 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:19.320 is anything that would suggest there's a clubhouse problem. But 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:22.080 that's just from the perspective from where we are right now. 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:25.840 It's just it's just hard to like that's a that's 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:27.520 a question for a beat writer. If we're gonna have 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.000 Ryan Devish or Adam Judah and we were to ask 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:31.800 them like they would be the ones, so you could 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:32.680 give an answer on that. 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:34.600 But even they might not have a perfect feel for it. 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:37.320 They're in the clubhouse talking to guys, but they're not 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:39.800 in there every minute of every day. There's a lot 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:43.760 of things that teams can keep under wraps and close 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:45.480 to the vest that they don't like get out to 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.680 the media, even those guys, So there's no perfect way 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:51.399 to know. They might have the best chance of knowing 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:55.440 for somebody that's not on the team, but it's often 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:57.879 a hard thing to know for sure. I mean, again, 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:02.119 there's no Gene Ciguras and DQ fighting like this on 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:04.719 this team. That's how you know there's a real clubhouse problem. 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.480 There hasn't been that, yeah, but well yet. 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:09.399 That did happen later in the season. 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:13.280 It's true after they were eliminated from playoff contention. 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:17.920 Not saying that's going to happen. I just don't think 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:23.280 there's anything to suggest right now there's actually a problem 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:27.119 maybe amongst the players in the clubhouse. I think that's right, 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:29.480 just kind of hard. We only can see, like all 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:31.680 of you, what's on TV for the most part. 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:31.919 Right. 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:36.560 So, Alex has a question on Patreon. Alex's question is 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:38.560 the Manners entered the season with some of the highest 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.280 expectations they've had in years. Looking at the first half, 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:45.920 do you think they've mostly been victims of bad luck, injuries, inconsistency, 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:49.199 and poor sequencing. Or has the season exposed flaws and 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:52.040 the way this team was built and got overshadowed by 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:53.120 preseason hype. 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:56.280 I mean, there was always a part of me last 0:18:56.400 --> 0:19:00.480 year that wondered how many of the team's issues covered 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:03.440 up by a sixty home run catcher. That all being said, 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:06.760 they got within eight out of the World Series. So 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:10.000 there is a part of me that always has that 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.520 thought in the back of my head. Merwin Jason Churchill 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:15.000 said to us before the season he thought they needed 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:18.480 two additional impact bats and they didn't do that. Maybe 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:19.800 he was right, and maybe. 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:21.640 The lineup looks kind of mid Maybe they. 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:26.320 Did need more. Now, of course there's guys underperforming. Of course, 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.440 there's injuries. Of course, there's been things that pop up 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:31.560 that are gonna hamper any team that have happened to 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:36.320 the Mariners this year. But yeah, I mean, now, looking 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:40.600 at what Churchill was talking about about needing multiple impact bats, 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:46.080 maybe he was right. Maybe you needed more just force 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:48.320 in the lineup than you have could be. 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:51.000 Or another way to look at this through the lens 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:54.720 of last year is that the Mariners made the postseason 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:57.880 and won their division with a three and a half 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:02.080 week hot stretch three and a half weeks. While it 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:06.480 defined last season, it could also mean that's not exactly 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:10.280 who you are. It means that is an outlier performance 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:14.360 and that in that moment got the Mariners into the postseason. 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:16.679 But what they were the rest of the season was 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:19.840 a team that was about five games above have five hundred, 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:22.520 which this team is not even close to right now, 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:25.159 so I can't even say they're at that mark. And 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:27.600 then on top of that, the Mariners have had unlike 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:29.960 last year, I don't even know if they had chronic 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:35.240 underperformance in the lineup. Last year, they had chronic underperformance 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:37.440 in the starting rotation, which I think has been made 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:40.240 up for a little bit this year. It's a net. 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:44.000 The bullpen is about the same give or take. So 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:49.879 really the biggest difference is not having col Raley in 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:53.640 that lineup, so or that version of cal or that 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:56.359 you know that version that version of cal Raley. So 0:20:56.359 --> 0:21:02.080 that's sort of a long winded way of saying, like yeah, 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.080 what are you getting at, man, I just lost my thoughts. 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:07.560 See podcasting at two am. 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:10.720 My great idea. Yeah, podcasting late late, late into the night. 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:16.960 It's it's possible that the Mariners team last year is 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:21.600 not totally reflected by their win total. That could be realistic, 0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:24.320 But what also can be true is that you look 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:26.240 at this team on paper and you think this team 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:30.280 should be an eighty seven win team floor right, based 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:33.399 on the players they have in this lineup, the starting 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:36.760 rotation and the bullpen. Like we were just begging in 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:39.960 the in the preseason, this team could add a bat, 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:41.880 maybe be a bat short, but they're gonna get a 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:44.360 great performance from their starting rotation, they're gonna be healthy, 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:46.680 which they happen for the most part, and they're gonna 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:48.760 win a bunch of games. And that's not been the case. 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:53.800 No, no, it hasn't. And you hope they can get 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:57.480 themselves back on track. But yeah, again, I just continue 0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:00.360 to think back to last season about how much cal 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:03.480 was able to truly cover up on his own. Now, 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:05.479 to be fair to the Mariner's pitchers and to your 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:09.320 point about them taking a step forward again this year, 0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:12.400 as we sit in the first half the Mariners ranked 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:15.400 pretty high across the league in a lot of categories, 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:17.320 which is a credit to them and what they've done. 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:20.840 In totality is a pitching staff where the pitching staff 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:24.800 is taking a step forward, the offense is significantly step back. 0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:27.560 A lot of that has to do with cal A 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:29.239 part of it has to do with Julio hasn't hit 0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:31.359 his true hot streak yet, a lot of it has 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:34.000 to do with Brendan Donovan being injured. A lot of 0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:36.639 it has to do with Josh Naylor taking a step back. 0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:41.360 So the two sides have not clicked at once. Has 0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:44.560 it happened all year? Pitching together, pitching an offense together? 0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:45.800 Has it happened all year? 0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:49.439 I'll also say that we had the complete story of 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:51.679 last year's team sitting here right now. We don't have 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:54.560 the complete story of this team right because the team 0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:57.840 last year at this point again was roughly the same 0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:01.320 record wise. I mean, we're pretty frustrated at this point 0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:03.840 last year. The only difference between this year and last 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:05.359 year at this point is that the Mariners swept the 0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:07.480 Tigers going into the break last year, and the Mariners 0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:09.720 lost two of three right. 0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:13.560 Wait, swept the Tigers and then what going into the 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:15.919 break Yeah, and the Mariners this year lost two of 0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:17.520 three to the Race. Oh they did. 0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:20.240 That's that's really did That's really I mean it's the 0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:22.320 same length of road trip going into the break. 0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:25.200 Well, I more think of a one in five road trip, 0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:26.840 not just that race series. 0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:29.600 But the Mariners in that road trip last year got 0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:33.360 swept by the Yankees going to Detroit where Brian wu 0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:35.640 was throwing a no hitter and blew the game. 0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:39.520 Remember that? Oh yeah you remember that. Yeah, vibes weren't really. 0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:40.200 Good out there. 0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:40.760 Pretty bad. 0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:42.640 Yeah, so, but. 0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:45.320 Again, the Mariners had a sixty home run catcher then 0:23:45.320 --> 0:23:48.120 they were also they were coming off an All Star 0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:53.200 week where they had Kate Anderson fall into their lap. 0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:56.320 Cal won the home run Derby. They did have a 0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:59.520 good series against the Tigers, and Trek Scoogle like, vibes 0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:02.719 were up a little bit slightly. I don't think vibes 0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:05.640 are up. From Randy rose Arenas singling in the All 0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:09.080 Star Game, fair point. 0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:13.800 Yeah he got a hit tonight, he did. Okay, see 0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:16.159 that's it's so close. I was paying attention to the 0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:17.840 All Star Game tonight. Don't come to me with All 0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:21.119 Star gaming now for All Star Game of analysis, it's 0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:23.000 the wrong place. So I'm happy for Andy. 0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:25.840 I mean, he went one for two. It was a 0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:29.639 barely boring All Star game. Michel Vargas hit a bomb. 0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:32.280 I thought the ninth inning matchup between Mason Miller and 0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:35.480 Munatakamurakami was really fun because it was power versus power 0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:38.600 and Mason Miller won. But yeah, kind of a boring 0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:39.200 All Star game. 0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:41.000 Maybe the All Star Game does tell the story of 0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:43.760 the Mariners, and Mariners had five All Stars last year 0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:44.760 and won this year. 0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:46.440 That is true. 0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:50.280 Mariners took over All Star Week last year, some due 0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:53.520 to luck Kate Anderson was pure luck by lottery and 0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:59.160 the Angels, Thank you Angels again, and great individual performances 0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:00.720 by some of the guys in the first half, and 0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:03.440 the Mariners just haven't had enough of that, not at all, 0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:06.840 So there just hasn't been as much to celebrate all right. 0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:10.119 Next question comes from Xander on Patreon. Xander's question is 0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:13.000 if you had your choice to replace Dan, who would 0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:16.480 you guys choose and why as an interim and why 0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:18.880 this person as an interim manager. 0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:23.240 So it would have to be somebody on staff, right. 0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:25.640 Yeah, that's usually, I mean usually how you do it 0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:28.760 unless you hire Dan Wilson, who's not on staff. 0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:34.800 They do an interview process for that. No, oh, that's weird, okay, 0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:38.000 and know just no, yeah, that's weird, all right? Who 0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:41.080 would I hire on staff if you had an interim manager? 0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:47.280 I mean, what's funny is I feel like Nigron would 0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:50.440 have been perfect for this, but he's gone. Now I'm 0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:52.199 trying to think who the right person for that I 0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:56.280 don't have. I can't sit here and say I would like. 0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:00.000 I don't know if Manny Act is the perfect selection. 0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:04.840 I mean, I guess you could say Pete Woodworth, but 0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:08.199 he's just more of a pitching guru I don't like. 0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:11.639 The other one would be Jake McKinley, who's the field 0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:14.320 coordinator and is a pretty smart dude. But he's also 0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:17.159 in his first year and I don't know if they 0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:18.119 decide on him or not. 0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:22.359 That almost never happens, like first year. He had managing 0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:26.040 experience in college, but it's like first year pro coach. Yeah, 0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:26.520 good luck. 0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:29.280 I mean again, we've talked to Jacob Bunch, really really 0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:32.760 smart dude, really interesting guy. I think he knows the stuff. 0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:35.880 So if I got to pick on the coaching staff, 0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:38.800 I'd say him, but the Mariners would probably just have 0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:40.080 it be Manny Active if they were going. 0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:42.760 To have an interim manager, because Manny's managed in two 0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:45.440 different stints in the big leagues. I don't think Manny 0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:49.480 would be great at managing the Seattle Mariners, but that 0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:54.080 would be the option. Now, yeah, kill no, because Xander says, 0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:57.600 this is specifically an intra manager. You don't have to 0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:00.720 hire the best candidate. You're just hiring someone to be 0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:01.359 in charge. 0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:05.520 Should we throw another candidate out there for long term? 0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:07.560 If they were going to go somewhere in the off 0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:10.080 season with this question, who are you thinking? You know 0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:10.640 who I'm thinking? 0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:12.320 Oh, I know who you're thinking. I'm asking you to 0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:13.359 tell people who you're thinking. 0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:18.119 So again, we had one conversation with this guy. It 0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:22.560 was a very good, extensive conversation. We must have sat 0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:25.040 and talked to him for like a half hour. The 0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:27.880 Mets have a bench coach by the name of Kai Korea. 0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:30.960 I would circle that name, not just for the Mariners, 0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:34.040 but in general in terms of future major league managers, 0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:37.040 because we both walked away from that and said, that's 0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:39.520 a big league manager and if it's not this second. 0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:42.720 It ain't gonna be long. He was in Cleveland under 0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:47.640 a very new Age driven organization. He was under Gabe 0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:50.879 Kapler in San Francisco. He's now under David Stearns with 0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.959 the Mets. He has loved in the modern baseball world. 0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:58.119 Paired with he is in his mid thirties. He is 0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:01.560 absolutely grinded and word his way up in a really 0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:04.120 short amount of time. I mean, this guy was managed 0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:08.720 like this guy was coaching what fifteen sixteen you baseball 0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:12.560 a decade ago, and then he was coaching NAIA Division 0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:15.040 III college baseball, and he just kept working his way 0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:18.600 up and up and up and up to now the 0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:20.800 fact he's the bench coach for the Mets in his 0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:24.800 mid thirties, and I think one very very short step 0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.000 away from being a big league manager. And if you 0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:30.240 need any of your own intel on Kai Korea, go 0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:34.320 watch any interview with the guy. I mean, sharp, witty, 0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:39.240 really really good communicator and speaker, and he is very 0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:43.640 very new Age driven. I mean I'm all in on 0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:46.360 the idea of Kai Korea in general as a big 0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:48.920 league manager. So if you were to do the part 0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:52.120 two of this question, I think TJ. Can vouch and say, oh, 0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:57.040 in this hypothetical, who would you want as your guy? Him? 0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:01.640 Kai Korea. Sure, very sharps, which I think is very important. 0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:04.160 He told us he really likes Seattle. Actually, he spent 0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:07.400 a lot of time here. He played plays college ball 0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:11.640 in Seattle. I think at either Seattle Pacific or Puget Sound. 0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:15.000 It's one or the other. Yeah, it was it was 0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:17.520 D two or D three. But he's spent a lot 0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:21.000 of time in the area, and I think he likes Seattle. 0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:24.200 If no relation to Carlos Korea by the way, No, 0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:26.280 but we're curious. 0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:29.200 If if we ever get to the point where we 0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:33.719 are talking about a open higher manager, you will hear 0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:35.880 the two of us banging the drum for this guy 0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:39.880 legitimately banging the drum. So learn that name Kai Korea. 0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:43.440 Yeah, I don't have anything else to that. Well pretty 0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:46.800 much said all of it. He is sharp, he's very sharp, 0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:47.640 very impressed. 0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:49.920 And it's and it's not just like oh he's a 0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:54.280 good talker, like oh, he like he really really gets 0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:57.200 it and knows baseball and knows the ins and out. 0:29:57.200 --> 0:30:00.840 It's like really really well And again, you should go 0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:03.120 listen to an interview with him. It's fascinating. 0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:07.560 Someday, someday he will be managing a Major League Baseball team, 0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:09.520 whether it be the Mariners or be a different team. 0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:11.520 I think he's going to do a really good job 0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:13.760 with that. 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Quins dot com slash marine Layer. 0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:30.719 Me on Patreon asks how does the dependence on Cole 0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:33.920 Young impact his growth and long term outlook? 0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:39.960 How does it affect the Mariner's long term outlook. 0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:42.439 Or his long term outlook because he's been playing every 0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:47.440 day and he's you know, he's not getting shielded from 0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:53.160 anything he is. I mean, he's just like Colt Emerson 0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:57.040 right now, being essentially thrown to the fire to play 0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.000 through the ups and downs of being a young major 0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:00.000 league baseball player. 0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:03.080 But when you say dependence on coal Young, is that 0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:05.840 the team's dependence on coal, or is it coal's dependence 0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:06.280 on coal? 0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:09.799 The team's dependence on coal, the team's dependence on coal 0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:12.560 to now be in everyday second basement in Major League Baseball? 0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:16.440 Right, how does it impact his growth? You know, I 0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:19.400 don't think it does, because this is what the expectation 0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:21.960 was of him in year two, year one. There's obviously 0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:24.360 some growing pains, like there is for any young rookie, 0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:27.680 but I think this is how the development was supposed 0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:30.480 to go. Would I play Cole Young every single day? No, 0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:32.200 I think you should get the guy some days off, 0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:34.239 especially because he started to run out of gas at 0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:37.360 the end of last year. But I think this was 0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:40.520 always the plan for him. I don't think it. I 0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:43.600 don't think it's impacting his growth and development by playing 0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:46.000 every day. The only thing I think it would be 0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:49.800 impacting is in a positive way, because he is cementing 0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:51.440 himself as your everyday second basement. 0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:55.279 I think this is only a good thing because if 0:35:55.320 --> 0:36:02.799 he's gonna grow and be top five second baseman for 0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:05.799 a long time, then this kind of development is what 0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:09.160 he needs. So getting this opportunity to hit against both 0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:12.680 righty's and lefties and fine Tunis defense, which he's done 0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:15.279 a fabulous job this year. That's how you become one 0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:17.279 of the best second basement in baseball, and ultimately, for 0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:19.680 Cole that's how you become rich. So you become that's 0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:22.399 how you earn yourself a five year, seventy million dollar 0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:24.640 contract to play second base, whether it be for the 0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:27.759 Mariners or for someone else, I think is a it's 0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:29.520 a benefit to the Mariners, and I think it's a 0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:33.760 benefit to Cole Young as well. Like if if you're saying, 0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:37.800 like playing every day negatively impacts Cole like, okay, that's fine. 0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:41.200 Like who else plays second base for the Mariners right now? 0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:44.960 There's not like that many options, right, Michael Royal maybe, 0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:46.719 but like he just got to triple A. 0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:49.840 Call Ryan Bliss back up. I think he's actually swung 0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:52.040 it decently well in triple A. But again, he's been 0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.759 crushing Yeah, triple A, right, So I guess you could 0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:57.239 do that, But then that you have to create a 0:36:57.320 --> 0:36:59.479 roster spot by dropping somebody else. 0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:01.840 Ryan Bliss might earn his way back on the roster 0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:06.080 without benching Cole Young because he's been that good. So 0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:08.400 we'll see with that. Be so happy for Ryan just 0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:11.200 the nicest dude on planet Earth, so we'd be happy 0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:13.160 for him. But yeah, I think I think Cole Young 0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:15.040 playing every day is a positive. He's he's one of 0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:19.520 the most valuable players on the Mariners, right. That's kind 0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:21.000 of guy you want in your lineup every day. And 0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:23.600 if he's twenty two and doing it, then that's fantastic. 0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:27.840 Michael on Patreon asks if the Mariners miss the playoffs, 0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:30.640 other than Dan, what is the strategy in move We 0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:33.880 cannot run back the same roster. Clearly who gets traded 0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:35.959 in the off season or who comes up. 0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:39.759 I mean, I think one way or another, there's a 0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:42.600 pitcher getting traded at some point, and if you're gonna 0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:45.680 do that, you gotta get the right return for him. 0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:47.920 You just have to, especially if you're gonna trade somebody 0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:51.839 like Kirby with a lot of club control. I mean 0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:54.200 when I say a lot, either two years if it's 0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:55.920 this offseason, two and a half years, if it's at 0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:59.960 the deadline. You gotta make sure you get impacts back, 0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:02.759 because what through the Mariners continue to not have enough 0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:06.960 of bats impact bats, so you would have to get 0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:11.480 the right return. The problem is everybody needs bats in baseball. 0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:14.200 These days, especially in the American League. I don't know 0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:19.839 who's trading away quality big league offensive pieces. But what 0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:24.000 would the shakeup be if that's the question, Yeah, you 0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:26.279 would probably have to flip a starter and really get 0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:29.200 some young, controllable impact offense. 0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:34.000 For me, if they miss the playoffs, the starter feels 0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:36.680 like if the starter's getting traded, no matter if they 0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:39.279 make the playoffs or not. At this rate, there's just 0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:41.920 too many rumors swirling, and these these years of service 0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:44.880 time are just counting down and down and down and down. 0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:47.520 So it's gonna happen. At some point, someone's gonna get traded, 0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:49.360 whether it be at the deadline or in the offseason. 0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:52.600 If they were to miss the playoffs and then go 0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:55.240 into this offseason, what would I be targeting. I would 0:38:55.239 --> 0:39:00.000 be targeting corner infielders, in corner outfielders with high offensive upside. 0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:03.680 I would try and find pretty much anyone you could do, 0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:07.399 any any any batch of players at any of those 0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:08.600 positions that you could find. 0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:11.120 Well, except Naylor's locked into this contract. 0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:14.520 Yeah, but you have third base open, sure, Yeah, Like 0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:18.759 what kind of impact is Brendan Donovan going to make 0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:21.719 next year? I don't know, Like we still we still 0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:23.719 don't know what if Brendan Donovan is going to make 0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:26.000 an impact this year on the Mariners, and it's just 0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:28.200 kind of hard to project out next year as well, 0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:31.000 and you have to I think hedge against that. 0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:33.919 Well as we're sitting here recording on Tuesday. Maybe more 0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:35.759 information will come out in the next couple days, but 0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:38.719 as we're sitting here on Tuesday, he again didn't play 0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:42.200 in a rehab game in Arizona on Tuesday. I mean, 0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:45.080 the expectation was this was supposed to start soon and 0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:49.080 it hasn't yet. Yeah, I don't know what's going on there. 0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:52.600 So you've got to approach the offseason not expecting nothing, 0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:55.359 but you need you're expecting that you're going to get 0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:59.560 more impact from somebody else while Brendan Donovan's skills can 0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:02.920 perhaps be used elsewhere on the roster. So that's kind 0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:04.959 of what I would target in terms of a full 0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:07.880 offseason flush, Like, you can't really do that. I mean, 0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:11.560 Cold got extended, Cole's got a ton of control, Julio's 0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:14.400 got a big contract, Cal's got a big contract, Naylor's 0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:16.920 got a big contract. You're not gonna upend your starting 0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:21.600 rotation beyond probably the one pitcher you trade, and you're 0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:24.160 not gonna upend your bullpen because there's really good pieces 0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:25.759 in there. Like, what do you flip over? 0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:29.239 Well, could two starters get traded, because again, you'll have 0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:31.640 essentially nine of them next year next year if you 0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:38.000 trade nobody. Let's go through it again, Gilbert wu Miller, Castillo, Hancock, Kirby, 0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:42.040 Cad Sloan, Logan Evans. Could you trade both Castillo and 0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:43.919 Kirby try to get some real offense back. 0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:46.760 I don't know who's paying the price you would want 0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:49.640 for that, though, I just I don't. I don't see 0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:53.520 that if it's if it's trading your starters to get better, 0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:56.440 especially multiple, it's gonna be hard enough to get one 0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:59.920 equal value for one of those guys, let alone bo 0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:00.480 both of them. 0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:04.360 She's gonna be a weird log jam, especially with Caden Sloan, 0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:07.240 who eventually are gonna just have to pitch in the rotation. 0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:09.920 Which is where we're in this weird position where you know, 0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:12.960 if you don't think this current Mariner's talent set is 0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:15.319 good enough to win a World Series, I can't blame you. 0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:17.880 But then we go into this offseason, it's like Okay, 0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:21.920 what really changes. Like Randy's a free agent, JP's a 0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:24.600 free agent. You might trade a starting pitcher, but it's 0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:27.920 not a guarantee. Not a guarantee. And then it's like, 0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:29.439 all right, what else do you do? Like you dump 0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:30.040 Bluke Grayley. 0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:32.479 Well, that was the one other thing I was gonna say, Oddy, 0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:33.200 is that the. 0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.280 Difference between making a World Series? 0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:37.920 It's not. But I will say I think this roster 0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:42.239 is way too left handed heavy still, and I think 0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:46.680 Rayley and Canzone on the same roster doesn't really work. Now. 0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:49.080 I know, Canzone's hitting both sides of the plate now, 0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:51.360 which good for him because he's really hidden, but I 0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:56.200 don't think it really works. I mean too sort of. 0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:59.160 I mean, what do we call Canzone at this point? 0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:02.200 Is he's still a plat two common platoon? Okay, so 0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:07.080 you have one lefty who does hit righty's better than lefties, 0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:10.040 and then a platoon bat in Luke Rayley. It's just 0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:13.080 a weird fit together. Neither of them play good defense, 0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:17.080 neither of them, you know, neither of them have a 0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:20.200 great approach. It's kind of a similar fit, and I 0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:22.680 feel like one guy works for that where two makes 0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:25.680 it a little tough. It's not the difference between a 0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:28.440 World Series, but maybe they try to go balance that 0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:30.960 out with another right handed bat in the outfield. 0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:33.680 I just don't know what you would get for Luke 0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:38.239 Rayley again, Like, I'm just not seeing the that turnover 0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:41.840 without like a full roster upheaval, which they're not gonna do. 0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:44.040 There's just too much money tied in, there is too 0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:48.680 much talent on the roster for that to happen. I know, 0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:51.480 Like people get sick and tired of listening to this. Well, 0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:56.759 like the guys just need to play better. Yeah, that's it, right, 0:42:56.840 --> 0:43:00.439 Like you you need the Blue Jays season of last 0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:04.640 year where most of your offensive roster is performing at 0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:06.759 like a ninetieth percentile clip or. 0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:08.839 Better Rangers of twenty twenty three. 0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:11.720 That, like, that's just how it's gonna have to happen. 0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:16.120 And maybe that's just dumb luck. But unless that happens, guys, 0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:18.560 I'm just I don't see it. There's just not like 0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:22.320 an easy fix, which makes this situation kind of tricky 0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:23.320 if these guys can't get. 0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:24.600 It done this year, yeah, agreed. 0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:28.439 Cameron on Patreon asks how well the Mariners finished this year? 0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:32.800 A when the Division B Wild Card C miss the playoffs. 0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:40.000 I mean, my answer changes on this every day. I again, 0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:45.280 the Marlins series was the first time I really thought, Okay, 0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:49.759 this team has a chance to miss the playoffs. I 0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:55.360 still think that's possible. That being said, if you're asking 0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:57.440 me point blank, at the end of the day, I 0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:59.440 think the rest of the American League West is so 0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:03.000 bad that at some point they figure it out to 0:44:03.080 --> 0:44:06.279 win the division. Now, what they do in the playoffs 0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:10.279 totally different story, because they're not playing inspiring baseball, But 0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:13.160 the rest of the West is so bad. I think 0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:17.040 at some point they will find a way to claim 0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:18.400 the division one way or another. 0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:20.919 I also think they're gonna win the division this year. 0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:24.800 They could win the division with eighty five to eighty 0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:29.480 six wins, and yeah, there you go. It's not it's 0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:31.759 not saying they're going to be a great team. It's 0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:33.839 not saying they're even as good as they were last year. 0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:36.720 But they will I think still win the division because 0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:40.839 this division still just stinks. The best opposition in your 0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:42.920 division is a team that is as mid as you 0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:46.600 could possibly think, in the Texas Rangers. It kind of 0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:50.960 tells you the story. Yeah, Robert on Patreon asks or 0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:54.520 says Randy needs to go. What are your guys' thoughts? 0:44:56.040 --> 0:45:00.719 I mean, I think he's on another team that if 0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:02.920 that's what you mean, Like, I think this is his 0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:08.799 last season in Seattle, so at some point he Well, 0:45:08.920 --> 0:45:11.440 I'd be surprised if the Mariners traded him at the deadline. 0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:15.720 It just wouldn't make any sense to trade your best 0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:18.719 player off your roster. Yeah, and that's frustrating for a 0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:21.799 lot of people who don't like watching Randy play, and 0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:24.399 certainly this last week, I really didn't like watching Randy play. 0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:27.600 Randy really drives us both up the wall with the 0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:30.200 way he plays. But the facts are the facts that 0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:32.360 he's been your most valuable player this year and that 0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:34.520 the team would be worse without him, right, So what 0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:36.400 are you gonna do? Your hands are tied behind your 0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:39.360 back at this point. I can't see them trading Randy. 0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:41.600 I also would not trade Randy at the deadline. You 0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:44.880 wouldn't get anything back for him either. Like he's good, 0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:49.280 he's good, but trading him with two months of control 0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:52.080 left of the deadline doesn't really get you that much. 0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:54.719 For a guy that you know is gonna leave in 0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:59.640 free agency. And has problems on defense, and yeah, you 0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:01.680 wouldn't get much of a return. You know what I'd 0:46:01.760 --> 0:46:04.600 rather do just keep Randy the rest of the year, 0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:06.600 get the most out of him for the rest of 0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:09.240 this season, and then get the compick when he walks. 0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:12.839 Yeah, I'm the same way. I think the same way. Yeah, 0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:16.480 I think they just sit pat with Randy and yeah, 0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:19.680 as frustrating as again this sounds, just let Randy do 0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:22.439 what Randy does, because that's how it usually goes. 0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:25.680 The Mariners will extend the qualifying offer, he will almost 0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:28.799 immediately decline, especially as a Scott Boris client. He will 0:46:28.840 --> 0:46:31.880 go to another team, and the Mariners will get the compick. Yeah. 0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:35.480 Final question of this mailbag comes from Nick on Patreon. 0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:38.719 Nick's question is, let's assume the Mariners continue on this 0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:41.640 path sub five hundred ball and let's assume both of 0:46:41.680 --> 0:46:45.000 these scenarios will come true. Which is worse or better 0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:47.600 in this case depends on your perspective. Lele. Number one, 0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:51.239 Dan is let go before the fifty Greatest Players ceremony 0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:54.600 and there is this awkward in memorial moment when his 0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:57.879 name is called. Or two Dan remains manager and when 0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:01.680 his name is called during the ceremony of booze basically 0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:03.000 ruins the ceremony. 0:47:05.280 --> 0:47:09.000 Dude, are we getting to that point where he may 0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:14.600 get booed? I mean the thing though with that is 0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:19.480 they announce his name every game, like for the starting lineups, 0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:21.880 and it doesn't really happen. 0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:24.960 But in this scenario, he'd be running out on the field. 0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:30.040 Yeah. But when opposing players are in town and their 0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:32.880 name gets announced in the lineup that others don't like, 0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:37.000 AKA the core of those Astros players like Altwove still 0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:40.000 always gets booed when the lineups announced. Kray gets booed, 0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:46.799 Bregman gets booed. Doesn't really happen with Dan, But I 0:47:46.800 --> 0:47:47.399 don't know Fair. 0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:50.959 They haven't returned home from this trip yet, James. 0:47:50.680 --> 0:47:58.319 That's true. I remember in twenty twenty five, Yeah, last year, 0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:02.640 after that horrendous offseason, with everything else that's been piled 0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:05.080 up in the Mariner's ownership group over the years, I 0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:07.200 mean we had real talks about it. Stanton getting booed 0:48:07.200 --> 0:48:12.800 at this ceremony for who's allowed Toro fore chero O 0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:17.000 and and even after a nailor Geno trade deadline, I 0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:20.880 mean there's there's still there's still somebody. He kind of 0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:26.160 got booed. He got booed. But well, that's a different story. 0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:31.600 I I mean, there is a chance. I can't sit 0:48:31.680 --> 0:48:34.960 here and say there's not a chance. There is, But 0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:39.600 I don't know. So many casuals go to Mariners games, 0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:40.120 you never know. 0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:46.560 So which is like worse though? Or better? Again? Nick 0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:48.960 says worse. I'm gonna say it's worse for the Mariners. 0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:51.560 Yeah, let's look at it like that. Which is worse 0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:52.319 for them? 0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:56.000 I think it is worse for number two. 0:48:57.000 --> 0:48:59.560 Two's worse. That's probably right. 0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:03.200 Because the ceremony, the ceremonies always mean a lot to 0:49:03.239 --> 0:49:05.960 the Mariners, as it should. They put on a really 0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:11.640 good job with their marketing events with these ceremonies. So 0:49:12.120 --> 0:49:15.200 a lot of booze to the current sitting manager of 0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:18.040 the team right in the middle of the ceremony would probably, yeah, 0:49:18.120 --> 0:49:19.040 feel a little awkward. 0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:24.520 Probably, I mean that would be a clear message that 0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:25.560 the fan base is sending. 0:49:25.600 --> 0:49:28.279 I'll say that, well, yeah, while they're while the team 0:49:28.400 --> 0:49:31.120 is trying to send convey the other message and a 0:49:31.239 --> 0:49:34.080 vote of confidence in Dan Wilson, you know, meanwhile the 0:49:34.160 --> 0:49:38.719 other one, Look, would it be a little awkward definitely 0:49:38.760 --> 0:49:44.400 would be a little awkward. But here's the thing though, Like, 0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:48.200 like Dan's still getting paid, he's he's also far from 0:49:48.200 --> 0:49:50.640 the face of the ceremony. Yeah, when when you get 0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:55.320 let go from any role in MLB, like especially mid season, 0:49:55.360 --> 0:49:56.840 you get paid for the rest of the season. 0:49:57.160 --> 0:50:00.359 Dude, Alex Korra is sitting so pretty he's right now 0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:04.400 seven million dollars the next two years, he's he's probably 0:50:04.440 --> 0:50:08.160 in a warm weather state, just relax feed up and relaxing, 0:50:08.200 --> 0:50:08.919 Like what does he care? 0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:11.719 And in that moment, like, would it be a little 0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:14.640 awkward for Dan Wilson. Yeah, maybe he wouldn't show up. 0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:19.520 That's totally possible. But I don't think that's quite as 0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:24.640 bad as like the sitting manager of the team taking 0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:26.920 the field with the fifty greatest Mariners of all time 0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:31.239 and getting universally booed. I think that would be worse. 0:50:32.000 --> 0:50:36.520 I think that's right. I mean again, if scenario one 0:50:36.600 --> 0:50:40.480 were to happen, Like we're talking about a guy with 0:50:40.520 --> 0:50:44.440 a career eighty WRC plus as a Mariner, Like his 0:50:44.560 --> 0:50:48.160 career as a mariner's nothing to write home about. I 0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:50.880 think that, like other guys, will be remembered at that 0:50:51.000 --> 0:50:53.640 ceremony when you've got Felix out there and each Hiro 0:50:53.800 --> 0:50:56.440 out there, and Griffy out there and Edgar out there, 0:50:57.400 --> 0:51:00.360 like that's what people will remember, and there'd be fifty 0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:03.360 guys out there. Dan Wilson would be one guy in 0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:06.799 that scenario. I think you just kind of announced his 0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:09.640 name and move past it. Again, It's not like this 0:51:09.680 --> 0:51:13.799 is Ken Griffy Junior. His career was. I know he's 0:51:13.840 --> 0:51:15.680 in the Mariners Hall of Fame, which again we've had 0:51:15.680 --> 0:51:18.239 our talks about that whole thing. But again, yeah, like 0:51:18.640 --> 0:51:20.919 he was twenty percent below league average as a hitter 0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:24.080 for his career. He was just like he was a 0:51:24.120 --> 0:51:26.200 catcher in Major League Baseball who happened to be on 0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:29.040 the same team as Griffy and Edgar and Randy. Like, Okay, 0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:32.680 I think you just moved past it. So yeah, my 0:51:32.800 --> 0:51:37.360 answer is number two. Nick agreed, good mailbag. As always, 0:51:37.400 --> 0:51:39.520 you guys always bring up with the mailbag questions. So 0:51:40.400 --> 0:51:43.200 if you guys want priority on those again, go to 0:51:43.200 --> 0:51:46.200 our Patreon, go sign up. 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