Speaker 1: And That's what you really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Welcome to you and That's what you Really miss podcast.
Speaker 2: Today's a special day. We are unmasking a legend and
Speaker 2: icon and Internet sensation. If you are on Twitter and
Speaker 2: our gleek, you might be familiar with Terry Schuster Updates.
Speaker 1: And you might want to listen to this episode then.
Speaker 2: Because Terry Schuster Updates is actually someone named Sebastian Whittaker
Speaker 2: from Australia, and Sebastian is here to play. Let's get
Speaker 2: into it because this is a genius. Terry Shuster Updates
Speaker 2: is so funny and we have so many questions. So
Speaker 2: this is lovely Sebastian Whittaker aka Terry Schuster Updates.
Speaker 3: Hello, Oh my god, Wow, how about you guys?
Speaker 1: Good? Thank you honored.
Speaker 2: We are honored that you're here.
Speaker 1: Are you?
Speaker 3: I am honored. If you're honored, then I'm honored. Then
Speaker 3: we're Its only such a privilege and such a delight
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you could come as.
Speaker 2: A fellow unhealthy Twitter user. Yes you too, I see
Speaker 2: you all the time on there. You are the one
Speaker 2: and only Terry Schuster updates.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it feels so strange to see you
Speaker 1: in person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean same with you. I mean like
Speaker 3: i've you know, I grew up seeing you both on
Speaker 3: my screens, and now here I am and talking to you.
Speaker 3: This is like kind of insane and crazy. But yeah,
Speaker 3: full cycle.
Speaker 1: Well thanks for joining us Alliday from Australia.
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, Sebastian.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god. No, of course we have so.
Speaker 2: Much to talk about because you clearly have a deep,
Speaker 2: deep understanding not only of Glee, but of a very
Speaker 2: specific character who was on basically on one season.
Speaker 3: Yep, she was the original Rob's Queen.
Speaker 1: Truly, can you tell us about yourself and then also,
Speaker 1: like Terry Schuster updates how it came to be.
Speaker 2: Or how Glee found you, Like, let's take it back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Glee found me when I was about nine
Speaker 3: or ten. I remember it was the Mattress episode that
Speaker 3: was on TV at the time airing, and my mum
Speaker 3: was watching it in the living room. I was like,
Speaker 3: what's what's this? The singing and jumping on mattresses, that's
Speaker 3: my dream?
Speaker 2: Revolutionary TV?
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, changed the world honestly, Yeah, it was just
Speaker 3: it resonated a lot, Like a lot of I was
Speaker 3: very much like a show choir, kind of like outcast
Speaker 3: kid growing up, so like a lot of it resonated. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and so I pretty much just like watched it from
Speaker 3: the beginning to like to that to the end as
Speaker 3: like live as it was, and I was like such
Speaker 3: a gleek. I remember being in like primary school and
Speaker 3: like at the end of the day, at the end
Speaker 3: of class, I would get up and be like, Okay, guys,
Speaker 3: tonight's so big episodically they're going to do thriller. I
Speaker 3: did that like multiple times where I would just like
Speaker 3: ask my teacher if I could get up at the
Speaker 3: end of class and just be like, guys, don't forget
Speaker 3: to you know, check out. Yeah, don't forget to do.
Speaker 2: That is so cute. Yes on the payroll exactly.
Speaker 3: You know what. I think. I'm going to send a
Speaker 3: very strongly worded email after this.
Speaker 2: Just send an envoice to Fox.
Speaker 3: Yes, I will.
Speaker 2: That is that's so sweet and like you're absolutely out
Speaker 2: of your mind for doing that, and I love it.
Speaker 3: I was very obsessed with your show, and I think
Speaker 3: the like it was only the distance, the fact that
Speaker 3: I lived in Australia that I wasn't like, I don't
Speaker 3: know up on our yeah, yeah, coming to say that,
Speaker 3: you know, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Australia I also had had a very big
Speaker 2: connection to the show. I don't know what it was immediately,
Speaker 2: like the Australian fan base, and luckily whoever picked up
Speaker 2: at channelton yeah, fully got the show. And you guys
Speaker 2: were the ones that were getting it, like almost within
Speaker 2: the same day as it aired in the US. You're
Speaker 2: the only country in the world that was doing that,
Speaker 2: and so you had your Yeah, your country had your
Speaker 2: finger on the pulse. Did you keep watching the show
Speaker 2: with your mom after you walked in on mattress? Like
Speaker 2: was that something you did together? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think well, I think we watched like the
Speaker 3: first season together. Then I kind of continued on watching
Speaker 3: it by myself, like I would watch it. We had
Speaker 3: a TV in the living room and then a TV
Speaker 3: in her room, and I would watch it in her room.
Speaker 3: I remember watching season two, just like Buy Myself in
Speaker 3: her room, and it was the episode where Kurt left
Speaker 3: New Directions left m Kenny and I remember sobbing and
Speaker 3: like coming to her in like the kitchen or something.
Speaker 3: And be like Court's leaving. No little did my little
Speaker 3: gay heart know that they were about to give us
Speaker 3: the romance of my dreams?
Speaker 2: My dreams.
Speaker 1: Yes, but.
Speaker 3: I think it was about March or April. There was
Speaker 3: a tweet that went viral. Someone had the display name
Speaker 3: will Shuster Updates and the tweet was Will Shuster has died,
Speaker 3: and that went viral, and within like twenty four hours,
Speaker 3: all these like Glee updates accounts, parody accounts spawned. I
Speaker 3: think I got in pretty early, but like by the
Speaker 3: time I'd already like created a new account and like
Speaker 3: started to choose like a character, all of the big
Speaker 3: ticket once had been taken, like I think Quinn, Rachel,
Speaker 3: Tina and Artie Sue, like all of these kind of
Speaker 3: like main characters had already been taken, and so I
Speaker 3: was like, I need, you know, I could probably like
Speaker 3: spend like half an hour going through each main character,
Speaker 3: or I could just like choose someone who's like a
Speaker 3: bit left field. And for some reason, Terry Shuster popped
Speaker 3: into my mind amazing brilliant.
Speaker 2: So it wasn't because Terry was your favorite. It was like,
Speaker 2: how can I secure this account that won't be taken already.
Speaker 3: It was a little bit of that, but I think
Speaker 3: there was also I have always had a bit of
Speaker 3: an infinity with Terry Schuster. Like I remember growing up
Speaker 3: and like watching the show and everyone she was the
Speaker 3: world's most hated woman for like a year, and I
Speaker 3: remember being like, Okay, yeah, she like manipulated and like,
Speaker 3: you know, emotionally like all these things. But like I
Speaker 3: was like, but she's kind of serving. She's kind of
Speaker 3: serving a little bit.
Speaker 2: She's a gay man's dream. Like that's absolutely yes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, her and her and Kendra Honestly, like I could
Speaker 3: watch ten seasons.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we want Yeah exactly, We've been talking about that.
Speaker 3: Give me like Terry and Kendra committing murders and like
Speaker 3: almost getting caught and like but like getting away with it.
Speaker 3: I know, yes, literally.
Speaker 1: So then when you started this account with Terry Schuster
Speaker 1: as your main villain, when did your tweets start to
Speaker 1: go viral? Was it immediate or was it did it
Speaker 1: take a minute for you to kind of get the
Speaker 1: the vibe you were looking for.
Speaker 3: I think it took a minute at first. I mean
Speaker 3: it was kind of lovely because like it was this
Speaker 3: kind of community of clear updates Twitter accounts, and I
Speaker 3: think we were kind of all tweeting together for like
Speaker 3: a year or so, but now it's I think I'm
Speaker 3: like one of the only ones left. But it was
Speaker 3: kind of like this period where like I would tweet
Speaker 3: like Terry's hashtag folding a sheet and get like ten
Speaker 3: likes and it albeit the likely updates Twitter account, So
Speaker 3: it was kind of like a lovely time. But I
Speaker 3: think probably it took like a few months for me
Speaker 3: to like kind of find my voice and boy did you?
Speaker 3: Boy did I?
Speaker 1: Boy did you? There's so many really really great.
Speaker 2: Ones, so good, so thank you so much. Does Jesselyn know, like,
Speaker 2: have you interacted with Jesslin at all? Does she know
Speaker 2: it exists that she.
Speaker 3: She she followed me. I think like maybe a year
Speaker 3: or two into it. Man, she was like I think
Speaker 3: she replied to one of my tweets being like this
Speaker 3: is so great and you know, I love this. She
Speaker 3: replied to one of my tweets recently where I think
Speaker 3: I'd done like a breaking Kamala Harris has just announced
Speaker 3: Terry She's updates as a vice president and just replied
Speaker 3: something like, you know, I'm not sure if you know,
Speaker 3: but I'll do it. I'll do it.
Speaker 2: I remember seeing that. Actually that was great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And honestly, I I would support I would support
Speaker 3: just Lena as the as the vice president.
Speaker 2: Oh, I would support for anything she do's nothing she
Speaker 2: can't do.
Speaker 3: Definitely literally, First Gleek on the Moon, first Cleek on Earth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I want to talk about some of your
Speaker 1: favorite since you were such a hardcore Gleek, I would
Speaker 1: love to talk about some of your favorites. So, like
Speaker 1: who was your favorite guest star?
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean I love anything. Jennifer Coolidge is in
Speaker 3: her just kind of like popping up in the sixth
Speaker 3: season as Brittany's mom is like very camp.
Speaker 1: That's a good one. Jennifer College is a great one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably probably Jennifer College. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What about your favorite character obviously other than Terry Schuster.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Kurt What was my favorite just because
Speaker 3: of like the parallels with my own life and like, yeah,
Speaker 3: growing up queer and like having that representation was really nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I feel like you got like a lot of
Speaker 3: the really good storylines, particularly in like the around like
Speaker 3: season two and stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But then I also I I'm obsessed with unique as well.
Speaker 3: Alex newall. They can do no wrong in my eyes.
Speaker 3: And also because I also because yeah, I was like
Speaker 3: watching the Glee Project as ed as well, and I
Speaker 3: remember rooting for Alex and and I feel like you
Speaker 3: nix another one where it's like she was given two
Speaker 3: storylines on like three seasons, but anytime she was on screen,
Speaker 3: I was like, yes, that's my devo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very much how I feel now watching it back.
Speaker 2: Alex needs more. Just give us more, Alex all the time.
Speaker 1: Always.
Speaker 2: I have a question because you said you started watching
Speaker 2: when you're like eight or nine years old and growing
Speaker 2: up as like a young queer kid, and you have
Speaker 2: the show that has so many queer characters and one
Speaker 2: of the main characters being Kurt. What I think, like,
Speaker 2: what did that mean to you? Or how did you
Speaker 2: like did you know what you were watching? And like
Speaker 2: maybe how important it was to your life even at
Speaker 2: that young age, because like I remember growing up and
Speaker 2: loving shows that might have had like a gay character
Speaker 2: but not really realizing why at the time. But because
Speaker 2: you were so young watching this, like did you clock
Speaker 2: what was going on? Or just like I really like
Speaker 2: the show. I'm not exactly sure why I like what
Speaker 2: it meant for you, like developmentally, like to be able
Speaker 2: to have sort of the show created this sort of
Speaker 2: safe space where all kinds of people can coexist and
Speaker 2: are accepted, and if they face any sort of adversity,
Speaker 2: you have this, you know, group of people to defend
Speaker 2: you and support you. Like what was that like?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I clocked that tea pretty early. I yes,
Speaker 3: that tea pretty early. I well, I mean I kind
Speaker 3: of think that like Glee made me gay a little bit, yeah,
Speaker 3: probably probably, Yeah, I mean, I mean I can kind
Speaker 3: of literally, I can kind of pinpoint it to the
Speaker 3: Bad Romance episode metricality.
Speaker 2: There was no hope you have Lady Gaga and Glee
Speaker 2: like your screws. Yeah, literally, if you didn't become gay.
Speaker 3: No, I it was life changing and world shattering, and
Speaker 3: it was I knew in that moment. I knew, And
Speaker 3: so yeah, I think that well, I've kind of, yeah,
Speaker 3: I've kind of known that I was gay since I
Speaker 3: was like nine or ten years old. I remember like
Speaker 3: being ten, I think and telling my mom like, Mom,
Speaker 3: i think I'm gay, and she was like okay, and
Speaker 3: it was kind of like a lovely moment, like she
Speaker 3: she might not have had all the words to like,
Speaker 3: you know, but she always met me with love and acceptance,
Speaker 3: and she was kind of just kind of like a
Speaker 3: bod hummel a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 1: Oh that's so great.
Speaker 2: That's great, go mom. We love that.
Speaker 1: So our producer said that you would some questions for us,
Speaker 1: and I want we wanted to obviously give you a
Speaker 1: chance to ask those yes in real time.
Speaker 2: So excited. Illow when people to come with quest since
Speaker 2: I have a.
Speaker 3: Bit of a list and I didn't order these, so
Speaker 3: they're just kind of in the order of that came
Speaker 3: out of my head.
Speaker 1: Great, we don't have orders in our heads either.
Speaker 3: No, this is for both of you. When filming Slash airing,
Speaker 3: did you guys ever view Will shoost as creepy or
Speaker 3: like problematic? Because I feel like there's this notion now
Speaker 3: that he there were like aspects of him that weren't great,
Speaker 3: and the show was like kind of positioning him as like,
Speaker 3: you know, that teacher that we all wish that we had.
Speaker 3: That's something that because I know I didn't. I mean
Speaker 3: I was like in ten I was still learning like
Speaker 3: three plus five, but you know, I didn't clock it
Speaker 3: growing up, But yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think we. I personally didn't clock it while
Speaker 1: we were shooting, and partially because Matt was like our
Speaker 1: age and he was like one of our friends, and
Speaker 1: so it didn't compute to me that it was going
Speaker 1: to read on screen as inappropriate in any way. And
Speaker 1: I don't think it even clocked to me like I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, wow, mister Sheet needs some new friends,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like that's kind of
Speaker 1: how I saw it, But I didn't think they would
Speaker 1: take off in a way where it would look so bad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for him in the lens of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: It felt like, no, we had no idea. It did
Speaker 2: not feel creepy. He did feel like like an older
Speaker 2: brother mentor figure in that way. I think what happened
Speaker 2: was like the world shifted in a way, because I do,
Speaker 2: and I say this a lot, but I think A
Speaker 2: Glee was sort of the end of a certain era
Speaker 2: of like how we even communicated or digested pop culture information,
Speaker 2: how we all spoke to Like it was such a
Speaker 2: bridge to where we are now that I think. And
Speaker 2: Matt is also like super chill and super nice, and
Speaker 2: I think there's that sort of like subconscious thing of like, oh, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: he just means well this guy just but now going
Speaker 2: back and watching him, like oh, he's obviously a little creepy, like, bro,
Speaker 2: what is your problem? But no, none of us really.
Speaker 2: I don't know what exactly happened, like what flipped, but
Speaker 2: everybody seemed to understand at some point a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago of like, hmmm, pause, what is going on
Speaker 2: with this guy? You know, it's just a little strange.
Speaker 2: But no, we didn't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't say, like the way that people are
Speaker 1: looking at it now.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, I think I've benefited the merst out
Speaker 3: of the Willshoes to hate because it's like, well, yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah that's your hero, the unsung hero of Glee's shoosta true,
Speaker 3: we agree? Yeah, yeah, okay, good. I just have a
Speaker 3: note that says Jenna, I follow Rivers.
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, that's a correct note.
Speaker 3: I follow Rivers. I feel like it's one of my
Speaker 3: favorite underrated songs that you ever did on.
Speaker 1: The show so hated.
Speaker 3: I And I mean, like, listen, I remember I remember
Speaker 3: the episode that you did on Not of Neglect, and
Speaker 3: you're talking about how yet and yet again? Ye Tina
Speaker 3: gets cut off before she can even finish the number, but.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love I follow Rivers and I feel like
Speaker 3: a lot of Tina songs, even the ones that got
Speaker 3: cut off, are so like iconic.
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you and so yeah. I appreciate that these
Speaker 1: are correct opinions.
Speaker 3: Literally. I also want to say, Jenna, congrats on the
Speaker 3: second baby on the way. That's incredibly exciting.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. We're excited and nervous.
Speaker 2: Anybody multiplying it's you and David.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Thanks too late to so thank you.
Speaker 3: I want to that's okay. I wanted to ask on that,
Speaker 3: following in the footsteps of Quint for Bray, do you
Speaker 3: think you will also perform give Up the Funk with
Speaker 3: full career a week before giving birth?
Speaker 1: You know that would be a TikTok if there ever
Speaker 1: was one. There we go, Jenna, I think you should
Speaker 1: do it. There's my entry way. And we were talking
Speaker 1: about this on Jacobs episode Jacob Artist and how I
Speaker 1: don't follow him and on TikTok because I'm not onto.
Speaker 1: I'm signed into TikTok, but I'm not on it and
Speaker 1: I've really been missing out and so I feel like
Speaker 1: I need to find my way back in, and that
Speaker 1: might be it.
Speaker 2: I think doing some Quinn for bray bits is completely it.
Speaker 1: Put on some funky stripes and red and yellow and go,
Speaker 1: do you give up? Funk? Maybe you don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen Terry Schuster updates as
Speaker 2: much as I have, but you have one when quote
Speaker 2: tweeted this picture of this bridge, this rickety ass bridge
Speaker 2: that nobody should be going on, and I said, what
Speaker 2: would have to be on the other side for you
Speaker 2: to cross?
Speaker 5: This?
Speaker 1: Quin baby?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Correct, that's a good one. Correct, So that's a good one.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: Terry loves babies, but she loves Queen for Bray's baby
Speaker 3: most of all.
Speaker 1: Most of all. I mean, her whole storyline was so
Speaker 1: wildly unhinged, but we bought it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I also think we didn't realize how crazy that storyline was.
Speaker 1: Either agreed, We just like went with it, right.
Speaker 2: I think, because it was like Ryan was still doing
Speaker 2: Nip Tuck and so like we knew this guy created
Speaker 2: Nip Tuck and that was a crazy ass show, and
Speaker 2: so maybe we just like trusted it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she's having hysterical pregnancy of course.
Speaker 1: Again again it's like it's like the people who don't
Speaker 1: know it's satire. Yeah, is that's the problem, you know,
Speaker 1: if you're not watching it knowing in on it, like
Speaker 1: you're missing it, right, that's fair.
Speaker 3: I feel like it sets the turn of the show instantly.
Speaker 3: It does. And yeah, like I feel like a lot
Speaker 3: of the satire that's to come later. Terry's still you know.
Speaker 1: Paved the way the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like if she's setting the bar there, like Okay,
Speaker 2: we know what we're going to, what we're going for.
Speaker 3: I also want to us Kevin, will you sing blame
Speaker 3: it on the alcohol at my funeral? As my whole
Speaker 3: he is being lowered. I like need that to happen.
Speaker 2: You also had such a good uh tweet about blame
Speaker 2: it on the alcohol being my number one most Spotify play.
Speaker 2: I don't understand it.
Speaker 3: I can't you put some some juice in that. You
Speaker 3: put some like you know when cook chicken and there's
Speaker 3: like alo like chicken.
Speaker 1: Would like, Yeah, it was that it was his favorite.
Speaker 2: That's so funny.
Speaker 1: I like bathing in the in the chicken juice.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't get it, but I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: You love that episode, you love love episode, but I didn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't think I necessarily sounded that great on that song.
Speaker 4: They had some like weird effect on I'm like, I
Speaker 4: think I sound like I have a cold, no more
Speaker 4: than I normally do, and like I got mad we
Speaker 4: were recording it because I wanted to.
Speaker 2: It's so stupid. I wanted to do what the actual
Speaker 2: recording was. But like that was an effect. You can't
Speaker 2: do that with your voice. I'm like, yes, I can.
Speaker 2: So like little things like that left me with the
Speaker 2: impression of like, ugh, this cover wasn't as good as
Speaker 2: it could have been. And so then when a couple
Speaker 2: of years ago, all of a sudden it hit. I
Speaker 2: didn't know there was an underground movement of people like
Speaker 2: Sebastian who loved blaming the alcohol and I appreciated it,
Speaker 2: and I went back and listened to it and I
Speaker 2: was like, well, all right, okay, maybe definitely, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3: It's like top ten for me, Like wow, I love that.
Speaker 2: Wow, and yes I'll sing it at your funeral, thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's legal and legal writing, contractually obligated.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, we have witnesses.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this one's for both of you. Where were you
Speaker 3: when you have first heard the room aute that Michelle
Speaker 3: con read and do you have any evidence that she can.
Speaker 2: I have to say that the amount of times personal
Speaker 2: friends have asked me this question in the last.
Speaker 1: Week really like recently out.
Speaker 2: Of nowhere, like I thought, we put this to bed,
Speaker 2: personal friends who I think maybe finally gained the courage
Speaker 2: time to ask me.
Speaker 1: People have asked for sure, like very legitimately. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It wasn't until like after the wave of craze of
Speaker 1: it that I heard about it.
Speaker 2: Because there's been two waves. There was a first wave
Speaker 2: and I was a pre pandemic, yes, and then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, during the pandemic, it just came back
Speaker 2: with a vengeance.
Speaker 1: And I I think I had heard about it, but
Speaker 1: it was just so ridiculous to me that I ignored
Speaker 1: it like anything else. You know, I have proved because
Speaker 1: I've seen her read her script before, but she could
Speaker 1: have just been pretending. So no, I'm just kidding. I'm
Speaker 1: here to set the record straight. She can read. It's
Speaker 1: just funny to go along with it because it's such
Speaker 1: a thing now, and also the fact that she's like leaned,
Speaker 1: leaned into it and made these videos and tiktoks about
Speaker 1: it is even better, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, answer is the same. I think when I heard
Speaker 2: about it, I was like, that's crazy, and that was
Speaker 2: sort of it's like, obviously she can read.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, because I think this might have been the
Speaker 3: like in the past week. I think that was like
Speaker 3: a tweet that like pop based on Pop Crave tweeted
Speaker 3: that was like today was like National Reading Day and
Speaker 3: they had a photo of Liah Michelle or something, and
Speaker 3: that like kind of went so I think maybe that might.
Speaker 2: Have I think it did it put it back in
Speaker 2: people's minds, right, Yeah, So.
Speaker 3: That's that's maybe I'm gonna that's maybe I'm gonna she can.
Speaker 2: Read, Okay, Okay, that's definite. Yeah I have. I've seen
Speaker 2: her read menus at restaurants, you know, I've seen her
Speaker 2: read scripts. Yeah right, I've seen her read.
Speaker 3: Well. We can finally, you know, I've been I put
Speaker 3: my Lady Gaga investigating for evidence hat on and now
Speaker 3: we can put that to rest.
Speaker 2: I need somebody to follow up a Lady Gaga about that.
Speaker 2: I need a further exploration unto her investigation at the Capitol.
Speaker 3: We need, we need Leah Michelle to investigate Lady Gaga
Speaker 3: investigating the capital.
Speaker 2: I would like that me too. That would heal the world.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you guys.
Speaker 3: I also when I save a few, I wrote, I
Speaker 3: was writing questions and questions in a world where you
Speaker 3: weren't on Clee. Terrible world to live in. But would
Speaker 3: you have done the Glee project to get onto Glee?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: I would not have. H No, I think I had
Speaker 2: who is that we had on? I had the same
Speaker 2: thought process that I would have had. Maybe like they're
Speaker 2: like I've already done things. I don't know if I
Speaker 2: need to do this. Why would I do this? Is damien?
Speaker 2: Maybe and they were like, you know what, Like screw it,
Speaker 2: let's just like have a good time and see what happens.
Speaker 2: I wish I would have been that confident or if
Speaker 2: you had that ability, I would not have. I'm like,
Speaker 2: look if.
Speaker 1: My if my team of people, my agent and manager
Speaker 1: were like, you should do this, this is really working.
Speaker 1: There might have been a chance I could have been persuaded,
Speaker 1: but it would not have been on my radar to
Speaker 1: try or do we just you know, I think Kevin
Speaker 1: and I had both worked as kids and done enough
Speaker 1: in our professional career that at that time it was
Speaker 1: very synonymous with like the reality versions of these shows
Speaker 1: like American Idol, the competition style, which was like, you know,
Speaker 1: not quite what it is today, and so I yeah,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been my first choice, but luckily, you know,
Speaker 1: all those amazing Tony Award winners from it. Literally we
Speaker 1: got shown shown what what that we would have made
Speaker 1: the wrong decision, yes, exactly.
Speaker 3: I mean Lee during Glee, Like, let me be the
Speaker 3: first person to say, but it looked pretty hard. But
Speaker 3: the Glee project looked also.
Speaker 1: Like steroids in its own right. Yes, definitely, absolutely, It's
Speaker 1: like Survivor Savage style looking on the lower budget. Exactly.
Speaker 2: It felt so bad for those kids.
Speaker 3: This one's a simple one. Agree or disagree laurenz ICs
Speaker 3: with the new Rachel.
Speaker 1: Wow, I mean, are we starting a Lawrence Ices up
Speaker 1: dates account?
Speaker 3: Lisa. That's I think that Lawrence ICs Is was the
Speaker 3: first to rob the woman. Laurence Ices was the second.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was definitely.
Speaker 1: Robbed, and we we last a soldier too soon.
Speaker 2: But I think she's I think she should be her
Speaker 2: own things, Rachel Rachel, Yeah, yeah, I still think Tina
Speaker 2: needed to be the new Rachel.
Speaker 3: Well, I think so too.
Speaker 1: Thanks you guys. Thanks.
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, do you have like a favorite unhinged storyline? Like,
Speaker 2: because I mean, is it the Terry Schuster? Like the
Speaker 2: Terry Shuster plot overall?
Speaker 1: Only one of mine?
Speaker 3: I like, yeah, I think so that's definitely up there.
Speaker 3: I mean Grill Jesus classic. I I watched a lot
Speaker 3: of like people on YouTube and like Patreon, like react
Speaker 3: to TV shows that I've seen. So I've watched a
Speaker 3: lot of people react to and like sometimes people will
Speaker 3: just like not get is there? Like why is he
Speaker 3: on the ground kneeling praying to it? Like this is
Speaker 3: like a new release of the Bible itself? Like this
Speaker 3: is this is scripture?
Speaker 2: Wait, I need to I need to unpack that there
Speaker 2: are people on Patreon you can subscribe to that react
Speaker 2: to television shows. Yes, this is the first time I
Speaker 2: feel really old. Oh no, it's having a moment people.
Speaker 3: No, that's that's okay.
Speaker 2: So there's people that watch Glee and react to it
Speaker 2: on Patreon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, because they will post like the edited version
Speaker 3: on Glee where it's just like the bits that they
Speaker 3: react to. But like some people will post like the
Speaker 3: full unedited version so you can like kind of press
Speaker 3: play and watch it along with them.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I've spent so much money. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think you should do that.
Speaker 3: Oh well, See, the thing is I kind of need
Speaker 3: to like have a stroke and then forget all of
Speaker 3: the TV shows that I've watched to then be able
Speaker 3: to watch them again or something.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I just keep watching shows and I'm like, oh, damn
Speaker 3: this because I haven't had that though before, and I
Speaker 3: was like, I'm like, damn, this would have been like
Speaker 3: a good one to like.
Speaker 1: Like yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting, Wow, my mind is blown. If there's a
Speaker 2: Glee reboot, then you should do it for that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, would you. I don't think there's going to
Speaker 2: be either, but if there were, what would you want
Speaker 2: to see in it?
Speaker 3: I'm glad that you asked that because I've written I've
Speaker 3: written my plans for the Gleeper.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: I mean I don't know if I would react to it,
Speaker 3: because I I mean, like, if I if I hustled
Speaker 3: that kiddie enough, I'm going to be on the rightest team,
Speaker 3: that's right. I think my elf. I think the Glee
Speaker 3: boot in my opinion should be in the hands of myself,
Speaker 3: Mike's Mike and then Rachel Bloom. Like, I think the
Speaker 3: three of us could become a new.
Speaker 1: RB is a solid team right there. Yeah, and definitely
Speaker 1: just with like the plethora of knowledge that you guys
Speaker 1: have of what the show was, deep deep understanding. Yeah, exactly, literally, Okay,
Speaker 1: so you've got our writers.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think that it's said in the same like
Speaker 3: it's kind of like a sequel to Glee in my mind,
Speaker 3: So it's like the same timeline, but just later.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: All new, all new casts. The only recurring character at
Speaker 3: least to start off with is Sue syl Vesta, but
Speaker 3: this is after she's been banned from the United States
Speaker 3: and she has to assume a new secret identity is
Speaker 3: like through real Vesta or something, and she just has
Speaker 3: like this like brown wig Gone or something for the
Speaker 3: whole time.
Speaker 1: That works.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's set in like backswamp, North Carolina
Speaker 3: or something, and Kurt and Blaine's Wajian baby is attending school,
Speaker 3: but there's no glee club at this school, so then
Speaker 3: they have to like start the glee club in hopes
Speaker 3: of introducing music to the people great, Yeah, I think
Speaker 3: that RuPaul plays mister Shoot. Yeah, I think that Thorgi
Speaker 3: Thor should be Brad the piano player. And then I'm like,
Speaker 3: then I'm not so set on like the other but
Speaker 3: those are like my must.
Speaker 2: Taps on the cast.
Speaker 3: Jenna Okay, love Thorgie Thor And then yeah, and then
Speaker 3: like in terms of like the who would be like
Speaker 3: the new that kind of cost of like Glee, Like
Speaker 3: I'm I'm because I also actually there's a question that
Speaker 3: I want to ask you of, like with today's kind
Speaker 3: of generation of like young actors, who would you want
Speaker 3: to like who would you cast in the Glee boot
Speaker 3: I personally like, I think like Joe Locke because like
Speaker 3: he can act and sing. And then also uh, Aisha
Speaker 3: Madden from who played Amory, who plays Amory and Heartbreak
Speaker 3: high yes saying lich, oh my god, I love that
Speaker 3: so much. I just finished rewatching that for like the
Speaker 3: fourth time. I'm obsessed with it.
Speaker 2: Everyone is so good in that show.
Speaker 3: Mmmm.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's written so well.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: I'm not as up to date on the younger actors
Speaker 1: of art of the in the industry right now, obviously,
Speaker 1: other than like the the Key a listers, but I
Speaker 1: love moder Apatow and I know she can sing because
Speaker 1: she didn't.
Speaker 5: You're right, I also sort of think it should be
Speaker 5: I would like to see less known people. Yeah, because
Speaker 5: when they recast and when they cast all that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 2: I think that would I think that would be really
Speaker 2: cool to talent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a really good point.
Speaker 1: That's a solid right there.
Speaker 3: I think, thank you.
Speaker 2: Don't let Ryan hear this, because I feel like there
Speaker 2: are several points in there that he would really latch
Speaker 2: on to. We should pitch it, like we have this
Speaker 2: great idea, but the one condition is you have to
Speaker 2: hire this Australian.
Speaker 3: Well, I'll wait by my phone wait for it to ring.
Speaker 2: Do you have any more questions?
Speaker 3: Yes? I have one last question, and it's because I
Speaker 3: think Theatricality is my favorite all time episode of Glee.
Speaker 3: That's maybe my favorite all time episode of something ever,
Speaker 3: one of my I have like a couple of different
Speaker 3: anecdotes about Theatricality and the way it's played into my life. Amazing.
Speaker 3: One of my closest best Judy's best Diva's my friend
Speaker 3: Chelsea Jones. We one year did this like plan to
Speaker 3: do this couple costume as the lamp and moist tellt
Speaker 3: she just gotta put like a lamp shade on her head.
Speaker 3: I was just gonna like, so good, so good, so honestly,
Speaker 3: where is moist Tellot's updates?
Speaker 2: Honestly true? And how is lamp doing?
Speaker 3: Literally?
Speaker 2: I want to know, I want to know, never recovered.
Speaker 3: And and then I also I have this memory of
Speaker 3: because I studied I obviously studied theater in high school
Speaker 3: in UNI, and I took this one like improv class,
Speaker 3: and I remember every week we had to do this
Speaker 3: like it would do these warm ups to like get
Speaker 3: into the you know, get into the vibe, to do
Speaker 3: some improv, and like no one raised their hands to
Speaker 3: like lead a group warm ups, So I raised my
Speaker 3: hand and I taught throughout like the persons of like
Speaker 3: ten weeks. I taught everyone the coreer form bad Romance,
Speaker 3: but the flee version. So it was just like twenty
Speaker 3: theater kids going, oh, what you love it is?
Speaker 2: Don't you remember your classmates from the time you were
Speaker 2: ten through UNI? Like how lucky they were to have you?
Speaker 3: You know, they've been terrorized and blessed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they would know so much less about the world.
Speaker 2: You know, you've taught, You've given them culture.
Speaker 3: Yeah, mother Teresa is not a strong enough word I
Speaker 3: think to describe me.
Speaker 2: I know, I don't think we have it yet. I
Speaker 2: think it's just Terry Shooter updates.
Speaker 3: That's right, Terry updates. Yeah, I've said that she's the
Speaker 3: original Virgin Mary Terry shoester it's true.
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, is pregnancy.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I wanted to ask about Bad Romantically Clust version. I
Speaker 3: think my favorite cover of all time, one of my
Speaker 3: favorite songs of all time, which outfit from the Bad
Speaker 3: Romantica Clust version? Would you wear to go grocery shopping?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Nayas m I'd read that anywhere with the rib I'd
Speaker 2: read that outfit to sleep in, to go to the
Speaker 2: grocery store, to car wash. I don't care where I.
Speaker 3: Was cross country skiing, I'd be wearing it.
Speaker 2: You can't imagine how chic that would be on the slopes.
Speaker 1: I feel like I go. I would wear heathers to
Speaker 1: complement yours.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh my god, I think about that loves the
Speaker 3: Head all the time.
Speaker 1: It was iconic, truly iconic.
Speaker 3: I think I read somewhere with that like it was it.
Speaker 3: It took Heather like forty minutes to get into that
Speaker 3: costume with like all the intricacies of like the hat or.
Speaker 2: Something that sounds right, it might have. Yeah, a lot
Speaker 2: of those things, like they just constructed themselves, and so
Speaker 2: like a lot of them would be very delicate and
Speaker 2: it would take the army of the costume department, so
Speaker 2: get them into it. I mean that makes sense.
Speaker 3: I remember the old costume Johna like it. Like the
Speaker 3: there was no way to move in it without it
Speaker 3: making the noise.
Speaker 1: They were hard plastic bubbles, and so they would clink
Speaker 1: against each other and they weren't secured so well on
Speaker 1: for the episode. We rejiggered them for the tour, of course,
Speaker 1: but for the episode they were just rolling in the
Speaker 1: middle of the number and they were just like on
Speaker 1: by like a fish, you know, fishing thread. So it
Speaker 1: was very it wasn't very secure and they were just
Speaker 1: bounced like they weren't stuck together in any way. And
Speaker 1: so it was I love that outfit. I was so
Speaker 1: excited to get the bubble outfit, and I couldn't hate
Speaker 1: anything more than that outfit by the end, because We
Speaker 1: were in it for a whole week too. It wasn't
Speaker 1: just a number that.
Speaker 2: We did oh so much.
Speaker 1: Read and it was honestly just like a leotard onderneath.
Speaker 1: So it should have been comfortable in every other respect.
Speaker 1: It should have just been a really comfortable outfit, but
Speaker 1: it was just not. It was really They had to
Speaker 1: redo it for the tour though, because we couldn't have
Speaker 1: clear plastic balls thrown off the stage.
Speaker 2: I also remember at some point, I think towards the
Speaker 2: end of that week of that episode, they really they
Speaker 2: just started to fall off, and I think at some
Speaker 2: point you were just over it like a shimmy, and
Speaker 2: you're like, well, here they go, and they just started
Speaker 2: like bouncing down the hallway, like the McKinley hallway, the scene.
Speaker 1: With Kurt where we're coming down the hallway and then
Speaker 1: we get bullied right by Kroofski. Sound was like, we
Speaker 1: can't have you walking and talking at the same time,
Speaker 1: and obviously we had to walk, and so I was
Speaker 1: just battling myself and then everybody else. It was like
Speaker 1: me against the bubbles.
Speaker 2: They were like Christmas ornaments that were just like strung to.
Speaker 1: HER's like like what you put pot pourri in do
Speaker 1: you know pop pury is like the scented like herbs, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: a Christmas ball, I guess.
Speaker 3: Is the same that Kevin used to blame it on
Speaker 3: the alcohol.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, not as seasoning.
Speaker 1: It's not okay, So we have a question for you
Speaker 1: before we let you go. We ask everybody this is
Speaker 1: what does the feeling that leaves you with.
Speaker 3: Homosexuality? Primarily? But I think it's like like the campus
Speaker 3: of camp, but presented in like the warmest of hugs.
Speaker 3: Like it's insanely funny, insanely well written, everything, like everyone's
Speaker 3: operating out a ten in all in all of the
Speaker 3: you know, in humor and music and everything. But then
Speaker 3: it's also at least behind a message of like just
Speaker 3: like joy and community and finding your people. And I
Speaker 3: think that that's it was important then and it's important now.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, we were lucky to have you
Speaker 2: as as an OG click. Thank you for still being
Speaker 2: into it and for Terry Schuster updates. If you don't
Speaker 2: follow Terry Shooter updates on Twitter, go do it.
Speaker 1: Get on it.
Speaker 2: It is one of the bright spots of Twitter these days,
Speaker 2: which is a little hard to find, and just brilliant.
Speaker 2: You're brilliant. Thank you for watching Glee. Thank you for
Speaker 2: the homosexuality. I'm glad we made you gay. We'll take
Speaker 2: responsibility for Yeah, you're welcome. Actually yeah, well, thank you
Speaker 2: and con regards and also best wishes. Yeah, and such
Speaker 2: a pleasure. And I love that we get to like
Speaker 2: unmask Terry Shooter updates. This revolutionary.
Speaker 3: This must be what it feels like to be on
Speaker 3: secret celebrity drag race where you know, the secrets no
Speaker 3: longer out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I think this was I think secrets
Speaker 2: every drag race could have learned a couple of things
Speaker 2: from hiding people from this. You know that was a
Speaker 2: little more obvious.
Speaker 3: I mean it was. It was that clip of in
Speaker 3: Also six where Silky's gonna lips think. You know, it's like,
Speaker 3: who is looking on I guess, oh it's giggly.
Speaker 2: Very yeah, very that. Yeah. Well, seriously, thank you so
Speaker 2: much for taking the time. And we know the scheduling
Speaker 2: is crazy because you're trying difference.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you Birth, Thank you Birth for Glee, for
Speaker 3: this podcast, Thank you Birth for just everything that you do.
Speaker 2: Oh, likewise, it takes all of us like you said,
Speaker 2: it's community.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: So nice to meet you.
Speaker 1: Nice to meet you, Thank you, thank you, bye Bhi.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much Tobashian for literally scheduling from across
Speaker 1: the world and for running a sensational account on Twitter
Speaker 1: and supporting Glee and being an OG and taking the
Speaker 1: time to chat with us. And I hope you guys
Speaker 1: enjoyed the episode and that's what you really mean, Bye bye.
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