1 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Kitchen Prescription, the podcast you listen 2 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: to and you don't know what to make for dinner. 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: I hope you have all had a wonderful week filled 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: with love, lots of good game day food. I mean, 5 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: how about that halftime show, my goodness, and maybe even 6 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: some good food family memories. I really did love the 7 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: halftime show. It was so great. We attended in Super 8 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: Bowl party with friends, and for Valentine's Day, I did 9 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: donuts in the morning and then chocolate covered strawberries in 10 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: the evening. So it seems that I like the traditions 11 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: that are are sweet. Oh, and steak. We did steak. 12 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: We've also been in this crazy mid winter heat wave, 13 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: and my sincere apologies if that cuts you deep as 14 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: you are sitting in the middle of snow and real 15 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: winter temperatures where you are. I grew up in Utah, 16 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: so and I spent ten years in New York City, 17 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: so I know I know how bleak those winter months 18 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: can feel. But it really threw me. I am so 19 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: not into ninety plus degree temperatures in February. I'm not 20 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: ready to put the sweaters away. It's really thrown before 21 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: a loop or like the space heater that sits at 22 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 1: my feet every day. Oh, there's got to be someone 23 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: else out there who loves that. Luckily, we're returning to 24 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: somewhat seasonally appropriate temperatures this week, but pulling the sprinklers 25 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: out for my kids to run through it was just crazy. 26 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: It was so crazy. Speaking of crazy, I feel like 27 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: the craziness is really picking up around here, and it's 28 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: what we've all been hoping for, right normalcy, things getting 29 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: back to the way they used to be. But I 30 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: swear it all seems to be hitting it once. Over 31 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: the next two weeks, I'm heading to both New York 32 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: City and Chicago for work while also keeping things running 33 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: here on the home front. And you working moms out there, 34 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: you will understand this. Not only am I stoked for 35 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: the work opportunities, but I cannot wait for a few 36 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: nights three to be exact, to sleep completely uninterrupted and 37 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: have multiple hours on an airplane of uninterrupted laptop work time. 38 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: So I don't know what that says about my stage 39 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: of life, but it literally makes me giddy to think 40 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: about knowing that I'm going to go to sleep and 41 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: no one's gonna wake me up. Oh I cannot wait. 42 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: I cannot wait. That's gonna be so fun, and I 43 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: can't wait to tell you guys about all the fun 44 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: stuff that's going on with those opportunities. With this uptick 45 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: in busy schedules, I will certainly be relying on a 46 00:02:55,200 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: few helps in the kitchen, including my trusty friend, rotisserie chicken. Now. 47 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: A few weeks ago on Instagram, I dedicated a whole 48 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 1: week to simple recipes that can be made utilizing a 49 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: rotisserie chicken. And I even did a video that many 50 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: of you loved about how to properly break down a 51 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: rotisserie chicken. I couldn't believe how many people had never 52 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: really seen that before, but it really does make it 53 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: so much easier. And I just want to lay out 54 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: a few points here. Let's talk about this. So if 55 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: you happen to be a Costco shopper, you guys know 56 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: that I am. But I've also heard Sam's Club has 57 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: great rotisserie chickens as well. But you must, must, must, 58 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: must try the rotisserie chickens from Costco if you're already 59 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: a member. If you're a Costco member and you're not 60 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: someone who regularly buys the chickens. I am dumbfounded because 61 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: to me, it's one of the it's one of the 62 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: primary reasons to have the membership. They are next level 63 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: when it comes to flavor and juicing. This eyes there 64 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: are always five dollars. In fact, they very publicly operated 65 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: a loss with these, but they get so many people 66 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: in that it's worth it to them. And you know, 67 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: if I'm being completely honest, the rotisse chickens alone would 68 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: be reason enough for me to justify my annual membership 69 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: fee to Costco. That is how passionately I feel about 70 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: the Costco chickens. Rotess chickens are great anywhere. They just 71 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: happen to be the best in my opinion from Costco. 72 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: All Right, so let's talk about a couple of different 73 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: ways that if you've got a busy season and you think, 74 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to rely on a rotisserie 75 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: chicken this week, Let's talk about how I like to 76 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: use them. First of all, as is, I'm talking whether 77 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: you're shopping in store or you're having your grocery order delivered. 78 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: It's so delicious on its own that you can literally 79 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: carve it up and serve it with just a tossed 80 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: salad mix, roasted veggies, and then maybe some rice or 81 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: orozo on the side, or some crusty bread and that's it. 82 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: That's dinner. It's like a free dinner, not free. You 83 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: gotta pay five dollars for the chicken. But you understand 84 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: when I say free, meaning that it's not going to 85 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: take up real estate in your mind, because it's so 86 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: simple to pull together, and my kids love it. In fact, 87 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: I think it's everyone's favorite chicken around here. It's so 88 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: darn good. So lots of times I will get not 89 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: only one rotisserie chicken, but two, because one we will 90 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: have for dinner that night, and the second I like 91 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: to shred it up. And this is the next thing 92 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: I want to talk about. So if you're going to 93 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: rely on that rotesserie chicken to help you out in 94 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: the kitchen a bit, consider shredding it up now. For 95 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: me and my family, you guys have got three kids, 96 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: young kids, so not huge eaters. I can get two 97 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: dinners out of one rotisserie chicken. Typically, each Rotessi chicken 98 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: gives me about four cups of shredded chicken. So depending 99 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: on how much your family eats, that can be spread 100 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: across two dinners for me, or I can do lunch 101 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: for myself about the whole week with that, just adding 102 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: a little chicken here and there. Here's a tip. If 103 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: you get it and you're intending to shred it, I 104 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: totally recommend you do it when it's still warm. It's 105 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: much easier. And if you don't want to painstakingly shred 106 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: it with two forks, which really is not that bad, 107 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: but you can always use a mixer. And this is 108 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: one of the tips that I gave in a video 109 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: that I shared about how to break down a chicken. 110 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 1: But whether it's a stand mixer or a hand mixer, 111 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: it'll take care of it in three seconds flat. So 112 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: that's totally something you can try. And all of those 113 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: tips are on that Instagram reel for a few weeks ago. 114 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: Then another thing to just keep in mind is I 115 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: have a few friends who are Recipe Club members that 116 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: are vegetarians, and that's one of the reasons that I 117 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: like to provide vegetarian options in the Recipe Club recipes. 118 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: But if you're a vegetarian and the other members of 119 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: your family eat meat, a rotisserie chicken can be pretty 120 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: great just to have on hand so that you don't 121 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: feel like you're preparing from start to finish protein that 122 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: you're not going to enjoy. So that's another thing to 123 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: keep in mind. My favorite way to incorporate rotisserie chickens 124 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: are in recipes like soups, my chicken pot pie soup. 125 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: In particular, salads. When I think of salads, I think 126 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: of my beat and goat cheese green bowl like even 127 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: like a simple barbecue chicken salad is such a great 128 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: way to utilize a rotesserie chicken. Sandwiches. Oh, I recently 129 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: did this sandwich where I got that flatbread from Costco. 130 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: It's like the Stone fire brand you can get at 131 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: many places, but I happen to get it at Costco. 132 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: And you do some melted cheddar, shredded rotesserie chicken, a 133 00:07:55,440 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: little sliced apple, and then either must stirred or just 134 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: wait for it, a little ranch dressing. And I know 135 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: that's kind of trashy, but I don't care. It's so good, 136 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: and it's like a flatbread sandwich. You pop it in 137 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: the toaster oven, it gets warm, the cheese gets melty. 138 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, can you tell that I've recently had 139 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: that sandwich and it was delicious. It hit all of 140 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: the right notes for me. All right, let's jump into 141 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: the three recipes for this week to hopefully make meal 142 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: planning a bit easier for you. First, my green chili 143 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: chicken enchiladas. Now I love this recipe. It also happens 144 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: to incorporate a rotisserie chicken and just a handful of 145 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: other ingredients, some jarred salsaverde, a can of green chilies, 146 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: some sour cream, cumin, coriander, some cheese, and if you're 147 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: willing to do it, which you should be, the pickled 148 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: onions on top. Oh, it's so good. I like to 149 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: make these enchiladas and a skillet, but you can also 150 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: do it on a sheet pan. And for me, they're 151 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: just it's kind of like the perfect hybrid between an 152 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: authentic enchilada recipe and an americanized enchilada recipe where there's 153 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: still a little sour cream in there in the actual mix. 154 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: That totally reminds me of my childhood and the way 155 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: my mom would make enchiladas. But the way it's prepared, 156 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: it's not too casseroli. I know, you guys know what 157 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. It's just it's good. It's really really good, 158 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: and it tends to be a hit with kids. So 159 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: think about that one. If you are looking for a 160 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: Mexican inspired recipe this week. Next sheet pan nachos, I've 161 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: got two different approaches for you. So on my website 162 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: I shared these really cute EXO XO sheet pan nachos, 163 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: which is basically just making sheet pan nachos in the 164 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: shape of letters to celebrate Valentine's Day. Or you could 165 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: do whatever. If someone's turning a certain age, you could 166 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: do two sheet pans with each number. If someone's got 167 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: a birthday and you want to do their initials, I 168 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: don't know. You can have lots of fun. But I 169 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: learned the magic of a sheep pan nacho when I 170 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 1: first lived in an apartment in New York City that 171 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: did not have a microwave, and I was forced to 172 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: learn how to make great nachos in the oven. And 173 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: here's the thing is, nachos made in the oven are 174 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: so much better than microwave nachos. Trust me, they are 175 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: so so good. The chips don't get soggy, the cheese 176 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: gets just melty enough, but it never goes too far, 177 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: and they're just delicious. They're so yummy. So I've got 178 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: two different options, the sheet pan nachos with the XO 179 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: exos on my site, or I have a vegetarian option 180 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: that is black bean and sweet potato nachos, also very 181 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: very delicious. And then, last, but not least, our third 182 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: recipe for the week is my carne asada stay salad 183 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:06,599 Speaker 1: bowl and this comes from February's Recipe Club. And this recipe, 184 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: let me tell you, it's all about the marinade. I 185 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: don't know what happened. I hit the jack pot with 186 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: this marinade. This may be the best marinade I have 187 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: ever come up with for any sort of protein. In fact, 188 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: it's so good I'm gonna use it for chicken, for pork, 189 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: for just about anything. I would use it on vegetables. 190 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: It's so so good, but it really tenderizes the state 191 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: the steak. You can use a flank steak, you can 192 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: use a skirt steak in this recipe. But I love 193 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: a good steak salad and I wanted to put together 194 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: this bowl. And the bowl is delicious, but the steak 195 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: itself and the marinade is next level. So you guys 196 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: have got to try it. Especially if you're in Recipe Club, 197 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: do not skip over this one. It's such a good 198 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: recipe this month. And for those of you who are 199 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: not in Recipe Club, we would love to have you 200 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: and you'd get this recipe. All right, there's your recipes 201 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,479 Speaker 1: for the week. Now let's get into the kitchen prescription 202 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: part of the podcast. I can't wait to introduce you 203 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: all to my guest today. She is the ultimate follow 204 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: on Instagram, and I mean that from the bottom of 205 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: my heart. She shares simple, realistic, and tasty weeknight recipes 206 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: and not only is she incredibly relatable and likable, she's 207 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: also a cookbook author, a professional recipe developer, and an entrepreneur. 208 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: Oh she's also a mom to to delicious toddler boys 209 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: so so cute. She's skyrocketed in popularity this last year 210 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: after launching her virtual cooking classes and gained many many 211 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: fans along the way. I know you're going to love 212 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: her just as much as I do. Today's guest is 213 00:12:55,679 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: Caroline Chambers. Welcome to the podcast. Caroli. I am so 214 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: happy to see your face and be chatting with you. Okay, Caroline, 215 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: I became fast friends last year mid pandemic. I mean, 216 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: I guess we're still mid Pendant, but really mid Pande 217 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: has two moms who work in this food space that 218 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: we're trying to figure things out. And we were connected 219 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: by a mutual friend. And I when I say that, 220 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: I instantly fell in love with Caroline. It's like the 221 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: first time that we talk, it felt like we'd been 222 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: old friends. She's just the best. So I'm so happy 223 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: you're here chatting with us. I think we talked for 224 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: two hours. I would saying outside on my couch and 225 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: I think we talked for two hours, the first time 226 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: we ever talked. And it's been so nice to have 227 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: you as a backboard for ideas, and I'm just I'm 228 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: so happy that you're in my life. So thanks for 229 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: having me. Okay, So tell us about your family, Caroline, 230 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: and who all lives under your roof? Sure? So I 231 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: live in Carmel Valley, California, which is up in Monterey County, 232 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: home of big little lives for those who aren't familiar 233 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: with California geography. I my husband, George, was in the military. 234 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 1: He's now out. We have two young sons, a three 235 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 1: year old and a one year old. Oh, and they're 236 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: so darn cute. Like if someone said, who were you 237 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 1: know the top five people that you love to follow? 238 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: You would definitely make the top five lists. Caroline, say, 239 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: you're one of the ones I actually searched for. I 240 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: may not be able to control my five year old, 241 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: but I can put a graphic on a reel, and 242 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: boy does that feel good? A beautiful graphic and I 243 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: feel more put together. When I watch your stories, I'm like, Okay, 244 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: that recipe, I can do that. I oh, man, you're 245 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: too good. So tell us, Caroline, about your path in 246 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: this industry, because I find it. I find it so interesting. 247 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: I graduated from college UNC Chapel Hill, had no idea 248 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: really what I wanted to do. I went into advertising because, like, 249 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, it seemed like a cool thing to do. 250 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm a creative person, so winto advertising. I lived in 251 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: New York for sever years. That whole time, I had 252 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: like this horrand in college. Actually I did also in 253 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: college had this horrible food blog. I wish that it 254 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: was still available to see. I think I like scoured 255 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: it from the internet when I got When I started 256 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: being serious about food, it was called Sweatshirt Weather, and 257 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: I shared like funny stories from my life and also recipes. 258 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: And I had this for like, I guess from my 259 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: junior in college through a few years into New York, 260 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: and I always loved food. I knew I wanted to 261 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: work in food. So when I thought about working in food, 262 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: I thought about working on the line in a restaurant, 263 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: and I knew that that was not the life I wanted. 264 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: My husband, George and I got married in two twelve, 265 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: so I moved from New York to San Diego where 266 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: he was stationed. And like, as we were driving to 267 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: San Diego, I was like, I want to do something 268 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: in food, Like I definitely don't want to keep working 269 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: in advertising. I want to do something in food. And 270 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: he was like, well, just like take a few months 271 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: and figure out how to do that. Mistaged in a 272 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: few restaurants, interned in a few restaurants, wound up starting 273 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:09,479 Speaker 1: at catering company, having no no hatering experience like baptism 274 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: by fire right there, baptism by fire. Like I literally 275 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: have this patch of gray hair on my head and 276 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: it's from my catering years. You're the chef, you're the marketing, 277 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: you're the su chef, you're the prep cook, like you 278 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: are a head of logistics, you are a moving company, 279 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: like setting up mobile kitchens. I mean, it's an insane career. 280 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: And so I did that for two years, built a 281 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: really awesome successful company, but of course, being a military spouse, 282 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: as soon as it was like really gaining steam, we 283 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: moved again up to northern California, and that's when I 284 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: made the switch into like freelance recipe development, which people 285 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: were like, what's recipe development? It means like this tea 286 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: company would come to me and be like, we need 287 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: five spring recipes that pair with this tea, and so 288 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: you come up with you know, a strawberry shortcake, genda, 289 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: you know whatever, all the recipes. So you come up 290 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: with the concepts and then you literally get into your 291 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: kitchen and create unique recipes using the pair with that 292 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: tea that use a certain ingredient whatever. Got a cookbook 293 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: deal in this time. It's called Just Married. It's such 294 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: a beautiful cookbook. It's so great and the ultimate, like 295 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: you should just buy six and have them on hand 296 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: for the next wedding you have, right quick, agree more, Kelsey. Yeah, 297 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: it's a great cookbook. It's all recipes that are scaled 298 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: for two and they're just like, you know, great recipes 299 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: to cook with, cook with your new person. So I 300 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: wrote the cookbook in that time, I like twenty fifteen 301 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: to twenty twenty was basically just five years of like 302 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: I did a bunch of like on screen stuff for 303 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: this kitchen appliance company where I was on screen cooking 304 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: recipes showing how to use the appliance. While our pasts 305 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: haven't been exactly the same, that all is very familiar. 306 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: I had very similar things from you know, cooking demos 307 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: to on camera stuff for brands too. We're coming out 308 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: with this product, Please develop these recipes. And it's you 309 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: just never know exactly when your next job is coming, 310 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: and so you always have to be trying to get 311 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: the next job before you've even finished that job. So 312 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: it's a toss. I launched my food career as a 313 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: background person, as a caterer, as a as a recipe developer, 314 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: so like, my name wouldn't even go on the recipes 315 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: most of the time. If it was, I was like, cool, 316 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: my name's on a wow right very much. I was 317 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: not conscious of trying to build my personal brand. And 318 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: that's great advice, that's really for anyone who might be 319 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: interested in going into food media. I think that it 320 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: is really important to establish that name before you go 321 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: and start developing all this great content that a brand 322 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: might attach their name too legally, but still it's a 323 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: bit of kind of takes the wind out of your 324 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: sales a little bit when I think back about how 325 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: much more quickly I could have built my brand if 326 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: I had been tan dimming it with building my own 327 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: social media presence sharing free recipes on Instagram. I didn't 328 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: start doing that until really had, like really started putting 329 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: an effort and a conscious strategy behind it. When COVID 330 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: hit in twenty twenty, I think I've told you this, 331 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: but I was literally March fifteen, twenty twenty, I was 332 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: on a set shooting recipes with like this huge production 333 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: team for Corona Beer, a male Corona can't I can't 334 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: make this up. We were like, gosh, so crazy coronavirus. 335 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: We're shooting this Corona like we were shooting a huge 336 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: Corona and go to Mayo campaign and like the next 337 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: day we sent in all the assets, we like got 338 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: our payment, never heard from them again, Like a campaign 339 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: never went up because it was a twenty twenty like 340 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: they were not hearing like barbecue recipes oh so wild. 341 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: That's just a very good example of the fact that 342 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: the work that I had become accustomed to doing, which 343 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: is like getting these recipes development gigs, completely dried up 344 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: in March twenty twenty and I remember looking at my husband. 345 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: I had no jobs on the horizon. It wasn't even 346 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: emailing people because like brands didn't know how to market 347 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,959 Speaker 1: their food in a pandemic of right, so like nobody 348 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: was hiring recipe developers. I looked at George and I 349 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: was like, this is it, Like this is my time 350 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: to finally launch Caroline Chambers as my own brand, and 351 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: like send it and go for it. And that's what 352 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: I started doing. I just I was like every single 353 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: day posting and this is when IGTV was like the 354 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: big video, Yeah, posting a new IGTV every single day, 355 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: Like this is what's in my quarantine kitchen, Like I 356 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: don't have any peanuts, so I'm gonna use almonds. I 357 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: don't have any spaghetti, so I'm gonna use rice noodles. 358 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: Like doing the substitution game that you and I actually both. 359 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: I think people love about our recipes, like you can 360 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: sub things. It doesn't have to be. You know, you 361 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: don't have perfect ingredients. So doing a ton of that, 362 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: I would get like question box from people like tell 363 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: me what's in your kitchen, I'll tell you what to 364 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: make for dinner. And through that I grew from Like 365 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: I think I had two thousand followers at the start 366 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: of covid and I just grew. I mean pretty rap 367 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: say it quickly, say Caroline. And I gotta say for 368 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: anyone who's like, you can't grow on Instagram anymore, let 369 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: me tell you. Caroline Chambers is the perfect example that 370 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: if you are authentic and genuine and you provide content 371 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: that gives people value, you develop a relationship, you can grow. 372 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: You're what like sixty five thousand followers or something like that. 373 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: I have, like I think of sixty four or sixty 374 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: five now. It is it's a lot of work. You 375 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: have to like be constantly thinking of new ideas and 376 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: pushing out new content. And it's I think people like 377 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: make fun of influences. I don't even think of us 378 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: as influencers, do you, Like I'm a really influencer. I'm 379 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: like a food person. But they are, like we have 380 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,479 Speaker 1: social media presences and whatever that's the title people want 381 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: to give us. I think people really rag on influencers 382 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: or like they don't even have jobs. They just like 383 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: post trap on the internet work. No, trust me, I 384 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: do not just post random things on the internet like 385 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: I am thinking about, I'm stocking my pantry. I am 386 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: carving out time in my day to do a demo. 387 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: You're making sure that your kitchen's going to be quiet 388 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: enough to go live, and you have your content perfectly 389 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: there at your fingertips to share in a cohesive format. 390 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: It's a ton of work, but it has now afforded 391 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: my revenue streams are completely different than they were two 392 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: years ago. They are now in my hands versus I like, 393 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: I haven't sent a femail pitching my work in two years. 394 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: I love it, and I love this particularly because you 395 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: are a female entrepreneur who is also growing your business 396 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: while also growing your family, and I think we need 397 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: more examples of women shaping what that can look like, 398 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: because I imagine that you and I feel very similarly, 399 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,719 Speaker 1: where what you describe is so hard, it is like 400 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: grind doesn't even begin to describe it, but it is 401 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: so satisfying and it feels so good to be creative 402 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: and to help people and to and to be able 403 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: to explore this passion that we have that it's worth it, right, 404 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 1: it's worth it. So I love that you. You're so 405 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: transparent in the way that you share, and it's I'm 406 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: just in awe. You've built something so incredible, and there's 407 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: I feel like you're just at the beginning. Caroline, I 408 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: think you're gonna blow up even more than you've blown up. 409 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: I am. Yeah. The it is funny that. So my 410 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: oldest son just turned three. So I have basically I 411 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: started like really trying to grow my own brand or 412 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: whatever when I was sweat three months pregnant with my 413 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: second son. And really I have grown all of my 414 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: independent businesses that I have, like a I have a 415 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: recipe subscription similar to Kelsey called what to Cook We 416 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: Don't feel like cooking. Started that when my second son 417 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: was like six months old. I think I start had 418 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: an online cooking school for a while. Started that when 419 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: he was a month old. People, especially women only women, 420 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: let's be serious when they sort of are asking me, 421 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: how did you do this? How did you build it? It? 422 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: Like I was just saying it was such a slog 423 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: at the beginning, and it was such hard work, but 424 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: I was like seeing these gains every single day. I 425 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: was getting messages from people, like you said, I was 426 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: getting messages from people. Oh my god, I thought I 427 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: didn't like cooking, and now I love cooking. Thank you 428 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: for these recipes. My husband and my kids are obsessed 429 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: with what I'm cooking now versus being you know, being 430 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,719 Speaker 1: jerks about it every night. Right, for these recipes and 431 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: just seeing the confidence that like I can give other 432 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: people through my work is so empowering that those first 433 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: say for the past year and a half, until like, 434 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: I don't know, six months ago, I was working like 435 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: one hundred hour weeks. Yeah, not sleeping, like going to bed. 436 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: Because I have two young kids, right, so I would 437 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: like work all day long. I because I'm a woman 438 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: and we think we can do everything. I didn't have 439 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,479 Speaker 1: proper childcare lined up until like six months ago. I 440 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 1: now am able to see lay out and see my 441 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: worth and see like, Okay, if I do six hours 442 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: of I have six childcare hours. AKA, let's say that's 443 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: one hundred fifty bucks. I don't know, I'm not doing 444 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: that one hundred fifty bucks. I can earn eight hundred 445 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: dollars in that time by filming a brand partnership going 446 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: on Kelsey's podcast, that's going to get me exposure to 447 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: new faces. Like whatever these different things are. I'm now 448 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: able to see my worth so much more when you're 449 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: in that building phase where that's the risk, right, that's 450 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: the risk you're taking because there are going to be 451 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: some months, if beyond months where that doesn't equal out. 452 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: And that's okay, right, because it takes time to build something. 453 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: And I just found for me that take the you know, 454 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: one to one finances out of it. For me to 455 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: be able to build and develop something that I felt 456 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: so passionately about that felt like I was serving this 457 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: other side of my brain differently from motherhood. Was just 458 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,959 Speaker 1: I mean, it was so energizing to me and I've 459 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: just loved it. Yes, it's so I mean, and I 460 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: have so many moms who were staying at home with 461 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: their kids as their full time job, and I think 462 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: that is so awesome. If you find power and you 463 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: find like joy in that, I think that is such 464 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: a rad career path for me. I really my first 465 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: year with Mattis, who was my first son, I kind 466 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: of took things slow and wasn't doing a ton of work, 467 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: and I wasn't feeling good, I wasn't feeling like myself, 468 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: and I wasn't feeling like I just wasn't feeling like 469 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: one hundred percent me. And once I started working outside 470 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: of the home and developing this career path, I am like, 471 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: I truly think I'm such a better mom because I 472 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: like know my worth and I know kind of who 473 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: I am and what I'm working towards. And I really 474 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 1: I don't like when working moms say, well, I want 475 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: I want my kids to see that I'm working hard, 476 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 1: because stay at home moms are also really working hard. 477 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: That's line that I like totally. I work work or 478 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: so much harder when I'm got my full time mom 479 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: had on like so much harder. But I just appreciate 480 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: you sharing because I think that one of the reasons 481 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: that working motherhood is so difficult is because not enough 482 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: people share exactly what it looks like. It's not like 483 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: you go and get a job and accountant and you 484 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: go work nine to five like it looks so different 485 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: for so many people. So the more women we can 486 00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: get sharing about what this looks like and sharing about 487 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: why it works for them, I think I think the better. 488 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: So I'm just so grateful. And what's great about what 489 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: you share on Instagram is yes, we see like working, Caroline, 490 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: but you, maybe more so than anyone I can think of, 491 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: are so great at integrating what that family life looks 492 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: like as you're building something. And I just love it. 493 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,479 Speaker 1: I just love it. Thank you. Yeah, I just use 494 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: the term like work outside of the home. I work 495 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: in the home. I like mom in the home, and 496 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: I work in the home. So the lines for me 497 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 1: and for you I now are so blurred, like my 498 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 1: nanny just took Calum to the park, but they'll be 499 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: back any minute. Like it's we are very very much 500 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: like we need a new phrase after especially after COVID, 501 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,959 Speaker 1: like work. Everybody's working outside the home anymore. But I 502 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: know what you mean, I know what We're all working 503 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: in the work outside of the kids. I don't know. 504 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: Speaking of Instagram, Caroline, I think I heard you mentioned 505 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: the other day that you are also getting ready to 506 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: for a kitchen renovation. Is that true? Yes? Oh my gosh, Okay, 507 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: this gets me so excited because on the Kitchen Prefection podcast, 508 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: we like to talk about how people organize their kitchens, 509 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: outfit their kitchens, and then set them up with really 510 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: good systems, and so you are in the position where 511 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: you're probably going to build out your dream kitchen. So 512 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: so I am building this dream kitchen in a not 513 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: dreamy footprint. I am working with it within really realistic boundaries. 514 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: I think you, at least I look at like every 515 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: influencer in the world seems to be renovating their house 516 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: right now or building their dream house right now. And 517 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: we have a fifteen hundred square foot house were it's 518 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: going to be I think a two thousand square foot 519 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: house by the time we're done with it. But my 520 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: kitchen is small, and so I have a really unique challenge, 521 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: which is I have a really unique opportunity, I should 522 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: say not challenge, which is that I have really limited 523 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: space to work with. Food is obviously my career. So 524 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: I have a ton of kitchen tools, so more than 525 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: even the average kitchen person. Mine needs to be like 526 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: really hyper organized and I need to like have one 527 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: of each tool that I need and not have all 528 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: this like riff raft floating around my kitchen as it 529 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: is currently as it currently lives. I think these cabinets 530 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: were probably built in the nineteen sixties. Yeah, the house 531 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: was built in the nineteen sixties. For all tiny cabinets. 532 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: They all have like these tiny doors, and then you 533 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: go in and it's like Narnia, Like there's like all 534 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: this space back there that you can't read. You have 535 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: to like if I have my whole body in the cabinet, 536 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: I can't reach to the back of it. So I 537 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: have a great opportunity to like really streamline this space 538 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: and make it right for my family. Like right now, 539 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: the bar is up really high, so my kids can't 540 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: sit and like watch me cook. So they have this 541 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: giant stool that's like takes up half of my kitchen 542 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: that they're constantly on. So it's all going to be 543 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: optimized around and it's like one of the open concept 544 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: into our living room. The entire point of this kitchen 545 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: will be a organization. Be like me never feeling like 546 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: I'm off in the kitchen cooking while my family's having fun. 547 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, I want it to be really 548 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: like that. It's an overused phrase, but you know, hard 549 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: of the home, right of the home. I feel like 550 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: your current kitchen is the type of kitchen that probably 551 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: most people I mean, look, yes, there's going to be 552 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: the outliers who have not one, but two kitchen islands. Yes, 553 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: and so I'd love to know how you have made 554 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: this kitchen work. So when it comes to organizing, is 555 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: there any system, even if it's just one part of 556 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: your kitchen that you feel like functions really well? So 557 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:48,719 Speaker 1: for me, finally investing in like bins has honestly been 558 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: the biggest thing. And I'm really I'm a pretty disorganized person. 559 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: Like I Organization does not does not come naturally to me, 560 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: and so if left to my own devices, things can 561 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: get like really unruly really fast. Luckily, actually, Callum's nanny 562 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: who I was just talking about, is an incredibly organized 563 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: person and she really helps me with my kitchen systems 564 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: and she is a bin lover and it has like 565 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: totally changed my life. So, like my snack cabinet, which 566 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: again is one of these awful deep cabinets, has now 567 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: like a chip bin, a cracker bin, a you know, 568 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: pancake slash other mixes bin bins. Yeah, we even have it. 569 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: We have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich bin. We 570 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: make a lot of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. I'm 571 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: gonna do that. We make a lot of peanut butter 572 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: and jelly sandwiches. Thank you. I that was wow, Okay, 573 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that. So yeah, like having these bins 574 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: that I can then pull one out and like send 575 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: Callum to the park with four snacks whatever. Yeah, that 576 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: has honestly been the biggest game changer for me, especially 577 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: because of these like funky shape, bizarre cabinets that I have. 578 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: I have one huge cabinet that's where I keep like 579 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: my grains, my pasta, is my YadA, YadA YadA. And 580 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: for that one. The thing that's been the best is 581 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: taking And I always see this on like superorganized people's 582 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: kitchens and I'm like, who who's got the time to 583 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: do that? What do you do if it doesn't fit perfectly? 584 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: And they put it in a clear container? Right, pear 585 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: container for my past or you know what. I don't 586 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: do it with pasta boxes actually, but for grains, for flowers, 587 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: the clear container with the label. My labels are not pretty, 588 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: they're blue painter's tape, doesn't matter. Write them off and 589 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: putting something new in there. My nuts all go into 590 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: clear jars. And that's because you know, I get down 591 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: to one inch of cashows and you know, and I know, 592 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: and so I fill it up with the next bit 593 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: and it's just like this constant, totallybel of things and 594 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: that has been really helpful with these deep, awkward not 595 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: suited for human to Actually I love it. And you know, 596 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: the one thing that I kind of rolled my eyes 597 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: out forever but then finally did and it's been life 598 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: changing is the cereal bins. And I think there was 599 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: even a really good meme going around for a while. 600 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: It was like, honey, I don't think we're going to 601 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: be cereal bin people. They have been so awesome because 602 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: my kids destroy the boxes, whip off the boxes, and 603 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: then they don't seal it back up, and so then 604 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: the cereal goes stale, or the granolla goes stale, and 605 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: so I have turned into a clear bin cereal. I 606 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: haven't gotten there yet. And I literally five minutes before 607 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: we talked had a bowl of stale magic spoon. So 608 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: it might be time. You're inspiring me, because you know, 609 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: my kids actually aren't old enough to do their own 610 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: cereal yet. Might you just wait? My darling husband, who's 611 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: really good at a lot of things, doesn't fold back 612 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: the bags back down. I know it, Like, honey, just 613 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: just roll it down to about half a second. So okay, 614 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: clear cereal opens Well yeah, and I will for anyone 615 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 1: who's like, oh yeah, I'd like to do the bin thing, 616 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: but it feels too overwhelming. My advice is literally to 617 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: take one cabinet or one side of one cabinet or 618 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: one drawer at a telfy because I have been to 619 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: the container store and roamed the aisles for two hours 620 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: being like, they all look the same. I don't know 621 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: what to do. So really, literally, don't bite off more 622 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: than you can chew. Do one cabinet at a time, 623 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: and I think that's the best way. One shelf at 624 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: a time. Yes, that's what I've done to That's exactly 625 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: what I've done. And also it feels really expensive. So 626 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: you go to the container store, you get six spins, 627 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you're a one hundred bucks 628 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: and you're like, how did this happen? Just to organize 629 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: my freaking cereal. It is one of those things that 630 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: you don't know till you know. It really is, like 631 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: it's well spent. And I think that since organizing has 632 00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: gotten more popular. There are some more affordable lines now. Specifically, 633 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: the bright Land line at Target is awesome and the 634 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: Home at It just came out with a line for 635 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: Walmart that it looks almost identical to their container store 636 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,919 Speaker 1: line that is much more affordable. So if you're looking, 637 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: if you're in the market for bins, check out those 638 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: two lines in particular, because I have a very hot tip, 639 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: I kind of want to go to Walmart right now. 640 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 1: So if you had to pick like three favorite tool, 641 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 1: I'm not going to give you a number. Just rattle 642 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: off a few of your favorite tools in the kitchen 643 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: that you use over and over again. The number one 644 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: tool I use that I'm constantly looking for if it's 645 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: dirty is my fish spatula. Yes, are you a fish? Oh? 646 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Yes? Absolutely? And I don't ever 647 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: use it. I'm like, occasionally use it for fish, but 648 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: I use it for everything if I in fact, I 649 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: feel like when I whenever I'm cooking fish, I like 650 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: forget to use it. No, it's I know when I 651 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: say fish spatula, it needs a rebrand. Honestly, it's basically 652 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: just a long, skinny spatula versus like a squatty square 653 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: it's got like per frated, like there's it's perforated. It's 654 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: like the perfect to get underneath pancakes, underneath cookies. That's 655 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: my cheap one. My fancy thing that I use all 656 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: the time is my leg Crusade three and a half 657 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 1: court braiser. Best. I'm a big one pot person like 658 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: you are. So like my rice is cooking in the 659 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: bottom with the stock, my protein, my vege is getting 660 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 1: stirred in and then my proteins going on top. So 661 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: I recently got a stop three and a half court braiser. 662 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 1: It's basically the same thing. The only reason I got 663 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: the stop is because it had a glass lid that 664 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: I was so into and moral of this story. A 665 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: three and a half court braiser doesn't matter what brand. 666 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: It is so awesome, such a great tool to have. 667 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 1: My Dyson stick vacuum. Oh yeah, did you say? Yes? 668 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 1: You did? It is in my kitchen. It is a 669 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: part of my it's the kitchen life. If so, do 670 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: you have do you keep the long do you keep 671 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 1: the long leg on it all the time? Yeah? Okay, 672 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: I have the like charging part on the wall and 673 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: then I keep the leg kind of hidden. I used 674 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: to have it all together and it was just like 675 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: following all the time. So I now have the charging 676 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 1: station on the wall, the battery pack part on the wall, 677 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: and then the leg. The leg part kind of is 678 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: like hidden. Yeah, so I have to assemble it. It It 679 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: takes literally half a second. So that's fine. But I 680 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: used to when my kids were eating and spilling everywhere, 681 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: I would constantly it would like bum me out. I'd 682 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,479 Speaker 1: be like, Calum, keep it in your mouth, Maddis, don't 683 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: throw that. And now I literally don't care, Like I 684 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: swear to God, the b and sticks has lessened my 685 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: mom anxiety. Because there are so many things as parents 686 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: that can give us anxiety. The thought of having to 687 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: clean up a kitchen mess is warning those for me. 688 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: And now like if Madis wants to help me cook 689 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: up on his stool, heck, yeah, buddy, no problem. There 690 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: is flour everywhere, there oats everywhere, and I literally don't 691 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: think twice about it because it'll take me twenty seconds 692 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: to clean. Yeah, I'm with you. In fact, when I 693 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: had product with the Home Shopping Network a couple of years, 694 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: I took them an idea and I was like, let's 695 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: do a kitchen specific hand vacuum. Yes, And then I 696 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: was like, but no one's ever going to do it 697 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: better than Dyson, So let's not even drive never mind, 698 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: because the stickback is such a and it's another one 699 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 1: where it's gonna hurt when you buy it. It's not cheap, 700 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,720 Speaker 1: and it's gonna sting a little bit. But then every 701 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 1: single day you're gonna say, this is the best thing 702 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: I ever bought. Amazing. I love maybe like a cooler mom, 703 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: a more fun mom. And also my house is clean 704 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, it's enuinely clean. I love it. 705 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: I love it. Okay, So then I want to ask 706 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: about one thing. I like to talk about systems, like 707 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 1: systems that work in your kitchen. I've noticed that you 708 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: pull from your freezer a lot. I feel like you 709 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: use your freezer really well. Would you agree? I am 710 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: a freezer aficionado. I freeze all the time. In fact, 711 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: some of my recipes for my newsletter i'll like, I'll 712 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: specifically write them and be like, Okay, guys, this week, 713 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: we're making double we're making half the bow and as 714 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: for tonight, and you're freezing half of it for whenever 715 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: the hell you want it. And I'm trying to get 716 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 1: away from my use of zip blocks. But this is 717 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: the one place where I can't quit using zip blocks. Court. 718 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: Zip blocks are my best friend. I freeze soups, I 719 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: freeze meatballs, I freeze cookie dough, whatever in quart zip blocks. 720 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 1: So I'll put the stew, the soup, whatever, pour it 721 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: into a quart zip block. I like fold back the 722 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: tops of the edges, put it into a bowl so 723 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 1: that I can really easily pour it in, and then 724 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: I squeeze all the air out. Lay it flat. Baking 725 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 1: sheets flat flat. I learned that from my brief stint 726 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 1: in restaurants. Yeah, lay it flat, freeze it, and then 727 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: you basically have these like sheets of paper, but there's 728 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: it's like it's like a file folder, file them. Like 729 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: nothing is more empowering to realize I don't know what 730 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to make for dinner. You pull up in 731 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: the freezer and I'm like, what should we take? What 732 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 1: should we pull out tonight? You know, or corn chowder 733 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,839 Speaker 1: or so before I had Mattie. Right now it's just 734 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 1: a hot, a hot mess in there, and like it's 735 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: like exactly what you just said, what should we have 736 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: for dinner? And I'm like rifling through my files, my 737 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: freezer files, like okay, yeah, corn chowder. Before I had 738 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 1: Mattie Aka, I had time to be more organized. I 739 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,720 Speaker 1: my freezer files. I had a post it on my refrigerator, 740 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 1: or not a post it, like a big piece of 741 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: paper that was exactly what was in the freezer. So 742 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: it was like, this is the meat that you have frozen. 743 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: These are the meal, the prepared meals that you have frozen. 744 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: These are the vegetables that you have frozen. It was awesome. 745 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: Someday I will get back to that place. I'm not 746 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 1: in that place now. Now. I have two freezers because 747 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: my husband hunts, so we have like, h it's it's 748 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: too much. I'm like too overwhelmed. I need to just 749 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: like eat it all and then start over. But having 750 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: if you are an organized person, keep a list on 751 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: your fridge of what you've frozen, and then you like 752 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 1: on a Tuesday night when you don't feel like cooking, 753 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 1: you just look at the list and you go, oh, 754 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: we have bulonnese. That is. I was really good about 755 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: that with our when we lived in Oregon and had 756 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: more space, we had a garage freezer. I was a 757 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: person that had a garage freezer no longer, Unfortunately, I'd 758 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: love to be that person again, and it was great. 759 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: When you get in the habit of doing that, your 760 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,879 Speaker 1: freezer can be such a great resource. So I love 761 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: that you're always always sharing that. Yeah, the freezer is 762 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: a huge resource for me. I pretty much cook something 763 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: every single day for my job. And even though I 764 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: always am cooking some recipe that day, sometimes at the 765 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,280 Speaker 1: end of the day, I'm either like I can't look 766 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: at corn chatterer one more time because I thought about 767 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: it all day long. I don't want to eat that, 768 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 1: I've already eaten it for lunch. Whatever's that's my problem. 769 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: It's like, how many days do I eat for lunch 770 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: and I can't whatever, I can't think about the recipe 771 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 1: in or I can't make myself cook a proper dinner 772 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 1: if I've like only been cooking appetizers like whatever. So 773 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: many times that happens, and we're not big takeout people. 774 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: So I go to the freezer and like it is. 775 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,879 Speaker 1: It makes my life a lot of a Lotian You're 776 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: the best. You really are just such a light. I 777 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 1: tell everybody where they can find you. I'm Carol Chambers 778 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 1: on Instagram. Caroline Chambers dot com is my website where 779 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: you can find my newsletter and whatever else I'm up to. 780 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,240 Speaker 1: Chambers on Instagram don't forget. She has an amazing recipe 781 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: subscription called what to Cook when you don't feel like cooking. 782 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: I am a member. It is wonderful. I remember for 783 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 1: over a year now, and it's really great. If you 784 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: like my style of cooking, I feel like you'll like 785 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 1: caroline style of cooking. They're similar. We're both, you know, 786 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 1: moms trying to get food and young people's house and 787 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: my weeknight dinner, I say. And I often people back 788 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: and forth between our instagrams and I'll get messages it's like, 789 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,320 Speaker 1: did you see Kelsey's latest recipe? And I'm like, oh no, 790 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:11,320 Speaker 1: what is it? Oh you're the best brain crossover. Well, 791 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: thank you so much, and be sure to check her out, 792 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 1: you guys. She's the best. And I wish you nothing, 793 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: but oh and I can't. Will you come back on 794 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 1: when your kitchen's done? Yes, do a video podcast. Ye. 795 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 1: Kelsey and I can see each other right now, but 796 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 1: I don't think you guys are going to see this. 797 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 1: We will do a proper video walk through because I 798 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: the number one thing I want to do is when 799 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: I when I do like the drawers, I want to 800 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 1: have the proper inserts. Keep them for you guys, like 801 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: real deal. You'll be an official grown up at that point. 802 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: That's the that's the thing in my drawers. I want 803 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: the drawer to be the bin. Yes, now you're the best. 804 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: Thank you. That's it for our episode today. I hope 805 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: you enjoyed getting to know Caroline a bit better, and 806 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 1: please tell me that you will immediately go and follow 807 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: her on Instagram. You'll think me later. I promise. She's 808 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: so fun, funny, relatable, all the good things. Remember that 809 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 1: new episodes will drop every Thursday, and in the meantime 810 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 1: you can follow me on Instagram, join recipe Club, or 811 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 1: sign up for my Family Me'll Makeover course. If your 812 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 1: kitchen needs some organizing, if you'd like to call in 813 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 1: and ask me a question, you can call in the 814 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: hotline at eight one eight five, eight three seven six 815 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 1: eight six and ask me anything that has to do 816 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: with cooking or your kitchen. It would mean so much 817 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: to me if you took just a few minutes to 818 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: rate and review this podcast so that others who are 819 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 1: stuck trying to decide what to make for dinner, can 820 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,800 Speaker 1: find it all right. Thanks so much you guys, and 821 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,280 Speaker 1: talk soon everyone,