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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Oh, good morning, Happy Saturday too. You'll tell you what, fellas,

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Speaker 2: I have the Olympic spirit in.

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Speaker 3: My soul right here.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I am feeling it, and I was feeling it

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Speaker 2: with Team USA on the men's basketball side getting past

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Speaker 2: Serbia in an absolute classic. We've got the men they're

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Speaker 2: going for gold today against France. And the reason they're

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Speaker 2: going for gold is because they survived. They survived and

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Speaker 2: advanced against Serbia. This was on Thursday. They won ninety

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Speaker 2: five to ninety one. Here's the thing, there are a

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Speaker 2: lot of different directions. This is the direction I want

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Speaker 2: to go to.

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Speaker 3: First.

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Speaker 2: Don't ever take winning for granted, you know, because there

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Speaker 2: are a lot of people that will look at Team

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Speaker 2: USA and it's star studded. It's a who's who. You

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Speaker 2: have all NBA players, They have so much talent. Jason

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Speaker 2: Tatum didn't even see the floor, right, Like, let that

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Speaker 2: think it's time all NBA first team guy. He didn't

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Speaker 2: play one minute against Serbia. That's how much talent they have.

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Speaker 2: But look, man, I'm sure there are a lot of

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Speaker 2: fans that are like, we didn't win by twenty what's

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Speaker 2: up with that?

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Speaker 4: They were lucky to.

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Speaker 1: Survive against Serbia.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Serbia was lights out from three in the first

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Speaker 2: three quarters, and they were in a dog fight, and

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Speaker 2: they they scratched and clawed with their fingernails like al

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Speaker 2: Pacino once said, and they got it done a race

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Speaker 2: at thirteen point deficit heading into the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 4: Rich.

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Speaker 2: Especially from a former professional athletes point of view, I

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Speaker 2: think that's one of the worst sins any fan can commit,

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Speaker 2: is just taking winning for granted. Where why didn't we

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Speaker 2: win by more? The hell with that? You found a

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Speaker 2: way to get it done, and they're moving on to

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Speaker 2: the gold medal match against France. I say, salute the

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Speaker 2: Team USA finding a way to get it done.

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Speaker 4: Hey, yeah, I'm with you, buddy, this this is gonna

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Speaker 4: be a great show.

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Speaker 5: We've got a ton of fun things to get into today.

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Speaker 5: But right off the top, you and I Simpatico, we agree.

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Speaker 5: We are so much so on the same page because

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Speaker 5: I actually have buddies, two guys who listen.

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Speaker 4: I talk sports with them all the time.

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Speaker 5: I trust their opinions, and I thought their opinions on

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Speaker 5: the Olympics both of them shared the same thought. They

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Speaker 5: were telling me, No, the Team USA they look awful,

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Speaker 5: like they should have mopped the floor with Serbia. I

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Speaker 5: can't believe they were even in the game. I can't

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Speaker 5: believe they even had the lead. I was like, had

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Speaker 5: the lead. I was like they were in danger of

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Speaker 5: losing this game heading into the fourth quarter. I was like, this,

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Speaker 5: this is a good Serbia team. I was like, fortunately,

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Speaker 5: it's a better team UT or Team USA. I was like,

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Speaker 5: but why are we sitting here looking at a four

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Speaker 5: point wins as something less than what it is. It's

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Speaker 5: a win on the international stage, it gains them entrance

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Speaker 5: into the gold medal match. And also, I don't want

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Speaker 5: to diminish Serbia or any of the teams that the

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Speaker 5: US have faced, But does anybody believe with any any

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Speaker 5: part of your heart that Team USA has played the hardest,

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Speaker 5: slash best basketball they could for forty eight minutes every

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Speaker 5: single time they're on the court. Because if you think

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Speaker 5: that's the case, the answer is no. I think all

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Speaker 5: of these guys have a switch. I think that switch

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Speaker 5: has been flipped on and off at different points throughout

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Speaker 5: this entire exhibition slash Olympics tournament. I think we've seen

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Speaker 5: it when they turn, when they all turn it on. Collectively,

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Speaker 5: they look unbeatable, but they also feel like there are

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Speaker 5: times where Team USA is like, we don't need to

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Speaker 5: give max effort and we can still get the win.

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Speaker 5: You saw it in the exhibition game against South Sudan.

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Speaker 5: You saw it a little bit in this game against

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Speaker 5: Serbia before they got behind the A and they all

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Speaker 5: had to sort of, you know, get in there and

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Speaker 5: USA treatment there.

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Speaker 4: But I don't I think that's what we're seeing.

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Speaker 5: I think we're seeing a combination of dominance with a

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Speaker 5: little bit of complacency.

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Speaker 4: All all I'm.

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Speaker 5: Thrilled with is the fact that they've made it this

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Speaker 5: far and they didn't get knocked out during the knockout stage.

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Speaker 5: So let's take their wins literally, let's take the wins

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Speaker 5: where they are because we've gotten to the point where

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Speaker 5: we can see Lebron James and Steph Curry and Anthony

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Speaker 4: Maybe if he gets an opportunity.

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Speaker 5: Of the four and the Durantula against Wemby and the finals,

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Speaker 5: it's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 3: So nothing that you guys are saying is wrong, But

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Speaker 3: I'm just not impressed at all by this. Okay, contrarian Jerry,

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Speaker 3: I like, I feel like I'm on an island here.

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Speaker 3: Usually I'm the one that's agreeing and you know, shaking,

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Speaker 3: doesn't feel like it's what the spirit of the Olympics

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Speaker 3: should be. And I've said this before, and I'm a

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Speaker 3: fan of what they're doing. Obviously I want Team USA

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Speaker 3: to win gold. I'm not like anti American, but this

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Speaker 3: is just this isn't what the Olympics is. Like, Hey,

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Speaker 3: we're just gonna be in cruise control until we get

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Speaker 3: pushed and then when someone actually can can compete with

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Speaker 3: us at the level that we're at, that's when we're

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Speaker 3: gonna start playing our best game, which means of the

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Speaker 3: I don't know how many exact games they played.

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Speaker 1: A couple in the knockout round, a few in the

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Speaker 1: group stage. Let's say the.

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Speaker 3: Percentage of the best we've seen from Team USA ten

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Speaker 3: percent of the game, maybe twenty percent. Like if you

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Speaker 3: take the full allotment of minutes that Team USA has

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Speaker 3: played in this Olympic tournament, I would say maybe ten

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Speaker 3: to twenty percent is like the highest possible outcome, like

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Speaker 3: the best, the best of the best. This is the Olympics.

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Speaker 3: You should have to compete at your highest peak. Go

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Speaker 3: watch the sprinters and say if they can give twenty

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Speaker 3: percent max effort and still win. Like That's why I

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Speaker 3: don't like these NBA guys in the Olympics to begin with.

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Speaker 3: It takes a sport that is already very watered down

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Speaker 3: the NBA, and it just brings it down to a

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Speaker 3: different level. And I just I'm not it's not what

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Speaker 3: the spirit of the Olympics is. They were a seventeen

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Speaker 3: point favorite in this game and they had the scrap

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Speaker 3: and claw.

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Speaker 1: Just to get the win.

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Speaker 3: For perspective, in the NBA, in the last twenty years,

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Speaker 3: there have been one hundred and thirteen seventeen point underdogs.

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Speaker 3: Five of them have won outright. It just it doesn't happen.

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Speaker 3: They should be cruising to this gold medal and they're not.

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Speaker 3: So do I am I happy for Kimusa. They're gonna

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Speaker 3: beat the pants off France probably today. Yeah, sure, but

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Speaker 3: I haven't been that impressed with this run. And I

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Speaker 3: don't like Olympics the NBA players in the Olympics.

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Speaker 1: I think it makes it.

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Speaker 3: Just not as exciting of a of a of a

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Speaker 3: tournament to watch because when can name the score, Hey,

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Speaker 3: we're down, let's turn it on. That shouldn't that shouldn't happen.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't happen normally in the highest levels of competitive sport,

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Speaker 3: where you have to compete at your highest level the

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Speaker 3: entire tournament or else you're going home.

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Speaker 1: That sounds a little like Soviet Smith to me.

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Speaker 3: Right now, be honest with you, ussr over here point

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Speaker 4: Hey, I'll tell you right now.

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Speaker 5: We read you, right, Brian, we read you, comrade.

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Speaker 2: You know, here's the thing that I would start with

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Speaker 2: is that that's right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, an American and it's the sick. It would be

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Speaker 3: funnier if Russia was actually if they're playing Russia.

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Speaker 1: In the final.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, yeah, that really racky four moment there, right.

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Speaker 1: I think this. I hear what you're saying, Jared.

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Speaker 2: But the first thing that I would start with is

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Speaker 2: for anybody get this thought out of your head that

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Speaker 2: team USA is so superior talent wise that no one

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Speaker 2: can have like a good quarter or a good half

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Speaker 2: or a good three quarters against Team USA, right, Like,

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Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's the wrong point of

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Speaker 2: view to look at a team like Serbia led by

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Speaker 2: Nicola Jokic, who's won three of four MVPs, you know,

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden they're hitting fifteen of thirty

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Speaker 2: three pointers in the first three quarters.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great equalizer.

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Speaker 3: It's like that is It's like.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense why they were down by thirteen points.

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Speaker 2: And I get it, Jared, Team USA can crank it

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Speaker 2: they're on their game, no one can hang with them.

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Speaker 2: But the sport of basketball, there's a sixth defender. It's

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Speaker 2: the rim, you know what I mean, Like you could

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Speaker 2: swing it around and get an open shot and clang it,

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Speaker 2: and like that's just the equalizer. In basketball, the three

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Speaker 2: point line is a goofy thing. The sixth defender is

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Speaker 2: a goofy thing. It sounds like I'm making all these

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Speaker 2: just think that we have this elevated point of view

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Speaker 2: these international teams that are way better than what they

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Speaker 2: used to be. And I think we haven't recalibrated our

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Speaker 1: It and we're like, what the hell they should have crushed?

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Speaker 2: How many times does this happen in non basketball like football.

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Speaker 2: Look at the Patriots and they were favored by double

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: You could play that game all day, like your favor

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Speaker 2: to win by three touchdowns? What do you do with

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Speaker 2: in this dog fight? It happens a lot more than

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Speaker 2: you think it does. And that's where I think Team

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Speaker 2: Serbia just lights out from three and Team USA had

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Speaker 2: to scratch and clawban I actually give them credit. I

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Speaker 2: see the counter point of like you should have never

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Speaker 2: been in that spot to begin.

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Speaker 3: With, I say hogwash.

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Speaker 2: I say that Serbia is good enough where they're capable

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Speaker 2: of having a lead going into the fourth quarter, and

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Speaker 2: it's not just because Team USA isn't focused and isn't

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Speaker 5: Back in twenty twenty three, this was October of twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty three, the NBA put out a press release where

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Speaker 5: they announced a record one hundred and twenty five international

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Speaker 5: players from forty countries and territories are on opening night

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Speaker 5: rosters for the twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four season,

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Speaker 5: including a record number of players from Canada and France

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Speaker 5: Canada with twenty six, France with fourteen. The borders of

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Speaker 5: this sport are expanding. The NBA is getting what they wanted.

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Speaker 5: They want more interest across the world and as a result,

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Speaker 5: the same way, we have kids in this country who

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Speaker 5: are enamored with Lebron James, who, looking like a defensive

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Speaker 5: end in the NFL, moves unbelievably gracefully and can finish

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Speaker 5: at the hoop. You have Steph Curry, who, even though

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Speaker 5: his diminutive stature suggests he shouldn't even play in the league,

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Speaker 5: his ball handling skills in his shooting prowess has made

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Speaker 5: him a Hall of Famer and one of the greatest

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Speaker 5: point guards the game has ever seen. The same way,

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Speaker 5: our kids in this country are enamored with those athletes.

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Speaker 5: So are the kids around the world now because MBA

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Speaker 3: I can't wait till we watch the flour with France

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Speaker 3: But it all comes down to what I do every day,

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Speaker 3: College football season, Alabama, big favorite, barely gets by Toledo.

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Speaker 3: your prospects going forward don't look that great, right, And

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Speaker 3: I think they've covered once the whole tournament, right, Good

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Speaker 3: They should be cruising to this gold medal.

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Speaker 4: But they're not.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna just skate by and we'll see.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna run this whole parade back for them,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I I I appreciate everything Jared's saying.

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Speaker 2: I just want him to know you should keep Toledo's

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Speaker 4: This y yeah, yeah, it.

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Speaker 2: They're in a dogfight with Toledo. Every Toledo fan was like,

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Speaker 4: Oh Toledo?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Should we rephrase?

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Speaker 1: Maybe I should go to like bowling Citadel or bowling Green.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll have a little bit more on the

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Speaker 2: that's true. The other part of it is that sometimes

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, think about that.

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Speaker 2: You think he was there with He was a teammate

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Speaker 3: So it's cool that Jokic was on the other side.

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Speaker 1: I love this from KD. This is funny too. Sor

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Speaker 5: it's like, what were you doing?

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Speaker 4: Well, he already has a super Bowl in his pocket,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: Like he's kind of been there, done that, so chasing

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Speaker 5: the bag at that point in his career makes a.

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Speaker 4: Lot more sense to me.

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Speaker 5: This feels backwards like what Ayuk is doing. And don't

447
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Speaker 5: get me wrong, like I always want a player to

448
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Speaker 5: chase after what he wants because it's such a short

449
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Speaker 5: window and clearly what he wants is the biggest contract

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Speaker 5: he can possibly wrap his hands around.

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Speaker 4: That's great, I get it.

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Speaker 5: But man, I'm telling you this, if we're arguing over

453
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Speaker 5: say total contract amount ten million dollars, eight million dollars,

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Speaker 5: I mean five million dollars, I've seen We've seen this before,

455
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Speaker 5: where guys are literally quibbling over percentage points on a

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Speaker 5: contract for an opportunity to play for a real Super

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Speaker 5: Bowl contender. I feel like this is a little misguide,

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Speaker 5: and I feel like it may not all be Brandon

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Speaker 5: Ayuka could be his representation as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I struggle with stories like these because I'm basically

461
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Speaker 3: shopping in the kitty department compared to what these guys

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Speaker 3: are doing with their contracts and the money that they're making.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm basically, like you know, in you know, going

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Speaker 3: getting a happy meal for McDonald's, while these guys are

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Speaker 3: getting you know, like thee hundred.

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Speaker 1: Big big mac patties.

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Speaker 3: But the way that I perceive it is the way

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Speaker 3: the way that Brian laid it out.

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Speaker 1: I think he's right. You know, you're you're kind of

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Speaker 1: quibbling back and.

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Speaker 3: Forth about which road to take. Both roads require some

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Speaker 3: sort of compromise, and there doesn't seem to be. Now again,

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Speaker 3: I'm only looking at it from the outside and what

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Speaker 3: is reported. That is why I struggle with these stories.

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Speaker 3: I need information to make an accurate assessment. I feel

476
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Speaker 3: like the information we get on these stories are just wrong,

477
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 3: Like a lot of it is released with purpose to

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Speaker 3: kind of mislead and to misguide the people reading them

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Speaker 3: because it changes your perception on the story and it

480
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Speaker 3: allows the renegotiation to take place. Like a lot of times,

481
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Speaker 3: the information we get on these contract stories is targeted

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Speaker 3: information that gets released so the team or teams that

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Speaker 3: are looking to acquire this player look at this player

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Speaker 3: in a different way. Right, it's propaganda. So it's hard

485
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Speaker 3: for me to really sift through it. But it's easier

486
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Speaker 3: a little bit these days because these guys are on

487
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Speaker 3: their social media is blab in every five minutes, and

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Speaker 3: Brandon Ayuk has been very active on social media kind

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Speaker 3: of talking about the like he went on Instagram yesterday

490
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Speaker 3: and commented about some guy commenting about the trade possibly happening.

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Speaker 3: So we kind of have to use our social psychology

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Speaker 3: brains to sift through this. I do think Brandon wants

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Speaker 3: to play football this year, whereas some of these stories,

494
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Speaker 3: you could tell these guys just don't want to play

495
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Speaker 3: like they're just they're waiting for the big money, and

496
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Speaker 3: unless the big money comes, they don't want to play.

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Speaker 3: The fact that we've restarted negotiations with the Niners at

498
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Speaker 3: least is a positive step, and they haven't just completely

499
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Speaker 3: walked like sometimes when this happens and all the dirty

500
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Speaker 3: laundry gets aired and then the trade doesn't happen, right, Brian,

501
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Speaker 3: the guys just like, screw it. I don't want to

502
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Speaker 3: deal with you guys anymore, and they just move on.

503
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Speaker 3: Whereas it does seem like at least there is some

504
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Speaker 3: renegotiation happening with the Niners. I don't know if it's

505
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Speaker 3: gonna happen. I hope it happens. But at least both

506
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Speaker 3: parties after all of this drama haven't just gone to

507
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Speaker 3: their separate corners and stop talking. Like communication is key,

508
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Speaker 3: and it does seem like there at least is some

509
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Speaker 3: more communication happening here. If you want my prediction of

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Speaker 3: what happens in the end, he stays in San Francisco

511
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Speaker 3: and we don't even talk about this in six months

512
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Speaker 3: because the.

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Speaker 1: Niners are winning too mini games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he stays, and that's the thing. The

515
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 2: Niners leverage has improved because it's very basic. If there

516
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: are a couple of teams that are interested, and we

517
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Speaker 2: had the Browns, the Patriots, the Steelers, and Iyuk is like, now,

518
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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: Want to go to the Patriots.

520
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Speaker 2: I don't know about the quarterback situation that I don't

521
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Speaker 2: want to go to the Browns. You know, for whatever reason,

522
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Speaker 2: the Steelers might not have actually made an offer. The

523
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Speaker 2: Niners are looking at this like, where are you gonna go?

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Speaker 2: You know, it's either you're gonna accept the deal we're

525
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Speaker 2: offering you or what You're not gonna go to another team.

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Speaker 2: They're not to your liking, and we doubt you're gonna

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Speaker 2: sit out this entire season.

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Speaker 1: So I'm with you, Jared. I think he's back with

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Speaker 1: the Niners.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I've thought that from the beginning because the Niners this

532
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Speaker 2: is they're all in moment. This is the time to

533
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Speaker 2: go all in to win a Super Bowl. And I

534
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Speaker 2: know you can't pay everybody, But as the leverage is

535
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: going more so toward the Niners, I think it's much

536
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: more likely that Ayuk is right back there.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: Our leverage always improves when we hear from one Isaac

539
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Speaker 2: Lowenkron who was with us this morning.

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Speaker 1: I low with the latest.

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Speaker 10: Good morning fellas, and for the first time in what

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Speaker 10: seven months, I've got actual NFL results to tell you about. Wow, Okay,

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Speaker 10: a milestone that the finish line of our long, long

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Speaker 10: wait is almost over, because we had three NFL preseason games.

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Speaker 10: On Friday night, Miami Dolphins over the Atlanta Falcons twenty

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Speaker 10: to thirteen. Atlanta rookie quarterback Michael Pennock Junior completed nine

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Speaker 10: of sixteen fo one hundred and four yards. The Houston

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Speaker 10: Texans won at Pittsburgh twenty to twelve. Russell Wilson did

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Speaker 10: not play, but Pittsburgh quarterback Justin Fields completed five of

550
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Speaker 10: six for sixty seven yards. The Philadelphia Eagles with a

551
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Speaker 10: sixteen to thirteen victory at Baltimore. Jake Elliott the game

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Speaker 10: winning forty nine yard field goal at the Gun. Today's

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Speaker 10: action kicks off a noon Eastern with the Jets visiting Washington.

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Speaker 10: Washington rookie quarterback Jaden Daniels arrived at the stadium a

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00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 10: short time ago wearing a throwback Doug Williams Washington Jersey Williams,

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Speaker 10: of course, the MVP in Washington's Super Bowl victory back

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Speaker 10: in Super Bowl twenty two.

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Speaker 7: Nice touch there by the rookie.

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Speaker 10: In Major League Baseball on Friday night, the Los Angeles

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Speaker 10: Dodgers got sho Hey Otani's thirty fifth home run of

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Speaker 10: the season helped him defeat the Pittsburgh Pirates nine to five.

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Speaker 10: The Arizona Diamondbacks over the Philadelphia Phillies three to two

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Speaker 10: on Adrian del Castillo's game winning home run in the

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Speaker 10: bottom of the ninth inning. It was the first home

565
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Speaker 10: run of his career in the second game of his career.

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Speaker 10: San Francisco Giants over the Detroit Tigers three to two.

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Speaker 7: The Giants have won three straight.

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Speaker 10: And eleven of fourteen and finally coming up at eleven

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Speaker 10: am Eastern time this morning at the Olympics, the gold

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Speaker 10: medal match in women's soccer between Team USA and Brazil.

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Speaker 7: Fella back to you, thank you, I Lo.

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Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: and you'll see this show posted right after we get

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Speaker 2: off the air. So Amari Cooper Brown's wide receiver a

580
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: subject of trade rumors right the IUKE deal was in place.

581
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Speaker 2: Reportedly Amari Cooper was part of that trade proposal, and

582
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Speaker 2: so he put on his IG story he said, Lol,

583
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind at all, little change of scenery, right,

584
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 2: like maybe going to the diners here, which I find

585
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: interesting because there's a good chance that he doesn't go

586
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Speaker 2: anywhere and he stays with the Browns. And he said,

587
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind at all change the scenery.

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00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: Sounds pretty good.

589
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: And so this is a question that boils down to

590
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: which team is the best place for Brandon Nyyuk and

591
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 2: also Amari Cooper, and I think it's the same team.

592
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: I think it's the Niners.

593
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Like that's the best spot for both receivers.

594
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: And I think that might be a little light bulb

595
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: moment for Brandon ny Yuk of like, hey, there's nothing

596
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: wrong trying to get as much money as possible, Like

597
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Speaker 2: this is a negotiation, no issue with it, but I

598
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: don't want it to get to the sour grapes level.

599
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: So much where he's kind of like, fine, get me

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Speaker 2: out of it, and it gets so personal, right because

601
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Speaker 2: he's got a really good thing going and I can't

602
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Speaker 2: believe I'm saying this. Brock Purty compared to Deshaun Watson,

603
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: we know who's more talented, but there are far fewer

604
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: questions about brock Perty's production within that offense and with

605
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: those weapons around him than there are with Deshaun Watson

606
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Speaker 2: right now after two really down seasons in limited play, Like,

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Speaker 2: I think that you're in a better spot if you're

608
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Speaker 2: a Yuk or if you're a Mari Cooper within that

609
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: Niners offense and a loaded team.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the best spot for both wide receivers.

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00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 5: So I got two kids, they're nine years old and

612
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 5: six years old, and there is a viral hit sensation.

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Speaker 5: If you're a father or a mom and you're listening

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Speaker 5: to us, you know the name of the show called Bluey.

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Speaker 4: It's available streaming on Disney.

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Speaker 5: Okay, And one of their I'm not even getting this

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Speaker 5: is not a lie. One of their recent episodes that

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Speaker 5: they came out with called The Sign actually put me

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Speaker 5: in tears.

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Speaker 4: It was a beautiful story. They did a wonderful job.

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Speaker 5: It was a twenty minute cartoon, but it it hit

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Speaker 5: you right. It pressed all the right buttons because the

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Speaker 5: sign that they're referring to in the name of the

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Speaker 5: episode was a forced sale sign in front of their house.

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Speaker 5: End of the episode, they decide not to sell the home.

626
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 5: The kids come running back in. They have pizza on

627
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Speaker 5: the floor because they had moved out all their furniture

628
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Speaker 5: and everybody was so excited that they decided not to

629
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Speaker 5: try to make a huge change to make their lives better.

630
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Speaker 5: To realize what they had right there right there was

631
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Speaker 5: staring at them in the face, the tree in the backyard.

632
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 5: They love the living room, all the memories in the kitchen,

633
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 5: like it's all right there for you. Brandon Ayuk he's

634
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 5: put up the for sale sign and he's not really

635
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Speaker 5: realizing what's behind it. He's he's got everything he needs.

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Speaker 5: This is ridiculous. He's he's thinking it's better. The grass

637
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 5: is always greener. Ah, you know, will be closer to

638
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 5: where we got to. The kids, they'll get used to that.

639
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Speaker 5: They'll make friends at their new school.

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Speaker 4: Ah.

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00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 5: The neighbors kind of annoy us, you know, remember when

642
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 5: the mailman, you know, he broke the lunch, the latch

643
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 5: on the fence, and we've never been able to replace

644
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 5: me because he's he can't figure it out, Like the

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Speaker 5: dog gets out of this yard.

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Speaker 4: Two off.

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Speaker 5: Whatever your complaints are about your own home, just realize

648
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Speaker 5: when you move across town, it may not be as good.

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Speaker 4: And that's what he's doing. Man, He's put up the

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Speaker 4: for sale sign on a really good house. He should stay.

651
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Speaker 4: He should stay because there's no place like home.

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Speaker 5: And I'm telling you if if Brandon Ayuk leaves, he's

653
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 5: not gonna be in a better situation. He may have

654
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Speaker 5: more money, he may have a big old contract. He

655
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Speaker 5: may be the top paid receiver in this league. And

656
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 5: by the way, he's talented enough to get that money.

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying he isn't. But man, oh man, he's

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Speaker 5: gonna turn his back on an opportunity, and I promise

659
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Speaker 5: you he'll look back and regret the decision at some point,

660
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Speaker 5: I promise you.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That was beautiful. And we also get Blue in the show.

663
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Speaker 1: So we got two things.

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Speaker 4: We got two things.

665
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Speaker 3: Anytime we can get life lessons back to Blue, I'm

666
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: all in. And that's the part about this, Like this

667
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: feels as much as it's a sports story, right, it's

668
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 3: a sports story, it's a life story. Everyone can relate

669
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Speaker 3: to this, everyone can relate to change, the uncertainty of

670
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: going through change, and the thing we fail to forget

671
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 3: because most of the population is significantly older than Brandon Ayuk,

672
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 3: who's twenty six. He's a kid like and all most

673
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 3: for the most part, unless you're Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers

674
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 3: was in his forties, most of these players are kids.

675
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 3: They're in their twenties, they're twenty two years old, twenty

676
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 3: five years old on average, Like they're remember the life

677
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 3: decisions you were trying to make, the important ones at

678
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 3: age twenty five, and how many dumb decisions you made.

679
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 3: I can raise my hand, I made a bunch, So

680
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: to me, it's it's all about embracing that uncertainty. If

681
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 3: I'm Brandon or if I'm Ceedee Lamb or anyone else. Right,

682
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: he's going through a contracting you mentioned, uh Cooper, They're

683
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 3: all going through this fear of the unknown, and it

684
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 3: makes people act in certain ways that probably isn't congruent

685
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: to who their true personalities are. I'm a law of

686
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 3: detachment guy, I detach from all possible outcomes, So whatever

687
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: outcome happens, I didn't attach myself to one outcome that

688
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 3: I wanted. Obviously we have hopes and dreams and goals,

689
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: but the law of detachment is how I view a

690
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 3: lot of these stories. And if I'm Brandon, or if

691
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 3: I'm any of these receivers that we're going to talk

692
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: about today that are going through some unknowns and uncertainties

693
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: in their life, just embrace the uncertainty and however it

694
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: plays out, it plays out, and then you approach that

695
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 3: new situation with a fresh mindset.

696
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: That to me is a winning attitude and a winning mindset.

697
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 3: And I think what we're talking about today these guys

698
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 3: trying to control the narrative so much that they're strangling

699
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 3: the life out of it. And I think at the

700
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 3: end of the day it'll work out positively. At Brandon

701
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 3: Stay's in San Francisco, I think the more interesting thing

702
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: is is.

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00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: Cooper's comments about wanting to leave Cleveland.

704
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Speaker 3: To me, that's the most interesting part of this story

705
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 1: That's the voice of Jared Smith right there.

707
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Speaker 2: FSR Betting analyst Rich Hornberger with US Penn State All American.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian know all right. Coming up next, we go

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Speaker 2: back to the futures. There's an NFL award up for grabs.

710
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 2: Jared says, we will hate one of his two selections

711
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Speaker 2: for the award. Very curious about this. We'll find out

712
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Speaker 2: what's what Coming up? It is Fox Sports Saturday right

713
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Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday

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Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Video. No time to waste, let's

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00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: dive into this.

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Speaker 8: It's back to the futures.

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00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 9: Maybe we could be worst coming back.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we are going back to the futures.

719
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 2: Looking at the futures market here, Jared has the NFL

720
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: Coach of the Year circled here. Yeah, we're gonna compare notes.

721
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 2: You got a couple of selections. We're gonna absolutely despise

722
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 2: one of these selections from you, Jared Smith.

723
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: Is what you're telling us? What do you have for us?

724
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 4: Are you excited now?

725
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 3: Do you guys want the one you're gonna hate first?

726
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 3: Or do you want something a little bit more palatable first?

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00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.

728
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 5: All right, Brian, you tell me what you want, but

729
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 5: I feel like you should give us the more palatable

730
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 5: choices or choice, okay, and then hit us and be

731
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Speaker 5: brief this way we can really roastah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, last Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I'll do. The first thing I'll do, and

734
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 3: I won't go too crazy about the analysis because I

735
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: think a lot of this is self explanatory. But I

736
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 3: will tell you that the average preseason win told for

737
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 3: the last fifteen winners of this award has been seven

738
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 3: and a half. So what does that tell you? Don't

739
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 3: look at the Chiefs or the Eagles. Are the Niners

740
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 3: like Nick Sirian Andy Reid ain't winning this award, So

741
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 3: you can eliminate a lot of those top tier teams.

742
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 3: We are looking for middle to below average teams that

743
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: are going to overachieve. Well, I think the first one

744
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 3: that comes to mind is the guy that took the

745
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 3: exact rout of last year. I remember last year Kevin

746
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 3: Stefanski won and it was it was a weird year

747
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 3: because I honestly think Dmiko Ryan should have won.

748
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 1: But you had the Joe Flacco situation.

749
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 3: Great roster, terrible quarterback situation that matches what the Vikings

750
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: are this year. Fantastic roster questions at quarterback with Donald

751
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 3: and McCarthy. So Kevin O'Connell I think needs to be

752
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 3: at the top of the list. Now let's go to

753
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: the rookie head coaches, because the rookie head.

754
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Speaker 1: Coaches tend to get a little more love here.

755
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 3: I think Mike McDonald makes a lot of sense because

756
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: he actually has a good quarterback situation if Gino Smith

757
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 3: is healthy, and I think that defense in Seattle is

758
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: going to be a lot better than expected. He is

759
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 3: a guy that is on my list. So those are

760
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 3: two I would say palatable names. Here's the crazy one. Okay,

761
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 3: are week am I completely crazy to think that if

762
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 3: the Panthers win the NFC South this year, Dave Canallis

763
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 3: is not gonna win Coach of the Year because the

764
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 3: odds for those two are very different. Right, The Panthers

765
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 3: are like ten to one to win Coach of the

766
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Speaker 3: Year or to win the division, and Canallas is like

767
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 3: twenty to one to win coach of the year. If

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Speaker 3: the Panthers somehow win the NFC South after all the

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Speaker 3: crap last year and this year, I think Dave canal

770
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Speaker 3: is gonna win Coach of the Year.

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00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: Now, there's a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of questions with Carolina. I totally understand that, but

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Speaker 3: it's if it's coach of the year, you got to

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00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 3: do something to earn it, right, You've got to turn

775
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 3: around a losing franchise. So I think Carolina with bright

776
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 3: Young really didn't show you his best stuff last year.

777
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna I think Canalis will help this year,

778
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: and I think that's a number that will come down

779
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 3: if the Panthers can win a few games early.

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Speaker 4: Wow. I don't hate it as much as I thought

781
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 4: I would. Wow. Yeah, I made a good Yeah. Yeah,

782
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 4: I don't hate it as much I thought it would.

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Speaker 5: In fact, I think I hate my pick of kind

784
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 5: of my sleeper pick for Coach of the Year more

785
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 5: than yours.

786
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 4: I like Robert Sala for this award.

787
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 5: I feel like if he can navigate a successful season,

788
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 5: even if the Jets have an underwhelming playoff appearance, should

789
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 5: they get that far. This is a team that won

790
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 5: seven games last year, and you imagine if bad Aaron Rodgers,

791
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 5: they'd be in the double digits because some of those

792
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 5: losses were close losses, and.

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00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 4: I think if you have a capable quarterback, those are wins.

794
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 5: And so I think if he can navigate the trickiness

795
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 5: of being Aaron Rodgers head coach, he might.

796
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 4: Win this award.

797
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: You know, I'm sticking with the NFC South because listen,

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00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: this is as Jared said, this is sometimes the biggest

799
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: surprise or the biggest improvement.

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Speaker 1: You get a lot of.

801
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 2: Points for the NFL Coach of the Year if you

802
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Speaker 2: check those boxes. I'm looking at Falcons rookie head coach

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Speaker 2: Raheem Morris because think about this, the Falcons have won

804
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: seven games in five of the last six seasons. That

805
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: is not a gauntlet of a division. If they somehow

806
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: win the NFC South, maybe win ten games, I think

807
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: he has a great shot to win coach Coach of

808
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 2: the Year. I think he's gonna improve that defense. And

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00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: if Kirk goes down and he's winning games with the

810
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: rookie and Michael Pennix.

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Speaker 1: Junior, he's basically a shoeing to.

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Speaker 4: Win that goes down. I like it.

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Speaker 1: The question I have on salad is Sally gonna get

814
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Speaker 1: the credit?

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Speaker 3: Or is Rogers gonna get the credit?

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Speaker 2: We shall have the question I have yeah coming up next,

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Speaker 2: to play or not to play?

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Speaker 4: Ah?

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Speaker 2: Yes, happy Saturday too. You hope you're having a great day.

820
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: So the question to play or not to play in

821
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Speaker 2: the NFL preseason, I'll tell you what this blew my mind.

822
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Speaker 1: So last night c J.

823
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Speaker 2: Stroud played for the Houston Texans great outstanding rookie season

824
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: last year, and he got two series let a touchdown

825
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,479
Speaker 2: drive through a touchdown pass to Tank Dell. Tank Dell

826
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Speaker 2: had a season ending broken fibula in Week thirteen, and

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Speaker 2: he was out there in the preseason right next thing

828
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Speaker 2: you know, he's celebrating in the end zone.

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Speaker 1: And yet you had.

830
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Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers quarterback Bryce Young not get a single snap.

831
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Speaker 1: Now, this is what's crazy to be.

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Speaker 4: C J.

833
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: Stroud was electric last season. He's playing in the preseason.

834
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Speaker 2: Bryce Young had the worst passer rating in the NFL

835
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Speaker 2: last season, and he's getting no snaps with a brand

836
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Speaker 2: new head coach in Dave Canalis. Someone explained this to me, right,

837
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Speaker 2: this is just odd to me how some of these

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00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 2: teams are just petrified and oh no, what if our

839
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: quarterback gets hurt. I get the injury concerns, but I

840
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: would say there's a suck concern. Okay, Like it's our

841
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: quarterback gonna suck when he gets out there. That's a

842
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: greater concern than is he gonna get dinged up in

843
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 2: the preseason. I would get Bryce Young some reps in

844
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 2: the preseason. I would get any struggling quarterback or any

845
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: young quarterback some reps in the preseason. Mahomes is playing.

846
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: Mahomes is playing after back to back super Bowls. He

847
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: might get a full quarter in the preseason, and we

848
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: can't get Bryce Young out there.

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Speaker 1: Makes no sense to me.

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Speaker 4: I get it. It makes no sense.

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00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 5: But I also get it from the standpoint of what

852
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 5: if the Carolina Panthers are turning on their practice.

853
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 4: Tape and they're like, Bryce ain't ready. He's still not ready.

854
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 4: He still doesn't get it, you know what I mean.

855
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that's what it is, but what if,

856
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 5: right hypothetically after watching last season, I don't think it's

857
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 5: a ridiculous thing to say. And if he isn't well,

858
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 5: what happens to his confidence if he goes out there

859
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 5: in the preseason and for an entire week or part

860
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 5: of a week until the news cycle shifts, we're discussing

861
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 5: how Bryce Young isn't it? You know what I mean? Like,

862
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 5: what does it do you know? Especially since you have

863
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 5: time here now. I'm not saying a month is a

864
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 5: long time, but we have a month until we see

865
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 5: regular season football. So a lot can change in a

866
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 5: very short amount of time with certain players, and I've

867
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 5: seen the light bulb come on for players over the

868
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 5: matter of weeks. You know, a guy goes out there

869
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 5: as an offensive lineman, he hasn't had a ton of

870
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 5: reps in game situations, he gives up four sacks in

871
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 5: his first game, and by week five, by week six,

872
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, he's playing like a pro bowler

873
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 5: because he's figured out the speed of the game. You know,

874
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 5: at all positions, whether it's linebacker, defensive back, or running

875
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 5: back or quarterbacks, sometimes the light bulb turns on. And

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Speaker 5: I think it's possible that they want to see the

877
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 5: depth at the quarterback position because they're happy with the

878
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 5: way Bryce Young's playing and they want to maybe preserve

879
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 5: his health. But I also think it's possible that he's

880
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 5: still really struggling and they don't want to shatter his confidence.

881
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: Yet that would be upsetting and unsettling.

882
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 3: I think if that was true, and I have no

883
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 3: idea if it is, I hope it's not it. And

884
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 3: you would know way more about this in terms of

885
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: the context of how teams prepare in the preseason rich

886
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 3: compared to the regular season. But I do think that

887
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 3: we're seeing a lot more of these joint practices now.

888
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 3: I counted almost twenty of them this year, which are

889
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 3: basically like preseason game. Like they have full scrimmages and

890
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 3: they have you know, you're playing someone else. It's not

891
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 3: like you're practicing against yourself. And I think that kind

892
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: of lessens the importance of preseason just a little bit

893
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 3: because they get live reps against other teams who don't

894
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 3: know their playbook right when you're practicing and you're scrimmaging

895
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: against yourself, your own team, like you know the playbook,

896
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 3: you know the call, you know everything. So it's a

897
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: little water down in terms of the intensity level. But

898
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 3: I know these joint practices. I mean, go watch what

899
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 3: happened with the Lions and the Giants that they beating

900
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,959
Speaker 3: each other up. It gets intense. It feels a little

901
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 3: bit like a preseason game. But I think these guys

902
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 3: should all play in the preseason. I think they're And

903
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 3: this is the way that if I was a head

904
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 3: coach in the NFL, this is how I would approach

905
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 3: the preseason.

906
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: Every single star.

907
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: Look at what the Chiefs are doing. I think Mahomes

908
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 3: playing whole quarter like they're playing everybody. Get these guys

909
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 3: a look, even if it's a series, how much can

910
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 3: your confidence really shatter on one series? Like I just

911
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 3: you're a quarterback in the NFL. It's your job to

912
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 3: lead the team down the field. If you are unsuccessful,

913
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 3: you go back to the sidelines, you reassess, and you

914
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 3: go do it again. And it just I don't know

915
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 3: why we're unless there is a serious injury concern, like

916
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert are just injured himself. Okay, don't play in

917
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: the preseason, bro, I get that, But for a guy

918
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 3: like anyone else, really hold on.

919
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 4: Let me pull up.

920
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 3: I did a depth chart for all the quarterbacks and

921
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: I marked and read the guys are not playing in

922
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 3: the preseason. So no nice like Aaron Rodgers not playing

923
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 3: in the preseason, okay, coming off an injury, I get that.

924
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson not playing in the preseason, okay, injury. Maybe

925
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield, what's his excuse. He signed a big contract.

926
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 4: They're trying to protect him. Get out there and play.

927
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 3: You've got a new offensive coordinator, got a whole new

928
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 3: offense to go learn. Same thing with Gino Smith. He

929
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 3: got an injury. What's going on?

930
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 4: Gino?

931
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 3: Maybe he does, but again, what is the excuse for

932
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 3: these guys not playing? And how relevant isn't in the

933
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 3: injury scope, because if it's not an injury concern, get

934
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 3: these guys a series, go out there and hand the

935
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 3: ball off, get your feet wet. I don't understand why

936
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 3: we don't see more quarterbacks playing the preseason unless there's

937
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 3: an injury.

938
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I outside of injury concern or nursing an injury.

939
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: I just don't get it.

940
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: Where let's say that the theories that you had rich

941
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: with Bryce Young, where hey man, he's still he's behind right,

942
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 2: work out the Kigs in preseason?

943
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 3: What's the best way to catch up? Lips?

944
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: I don't want it to be a weak one at

945
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 2: the Saints and that defense, you know what I mean.

946
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 2: If there's anything to work out, work it out in

947
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 2: a soft environment, which would be the first preseason game

948
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 2: against the Patriots, but they opted not to. I'll tell

949
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: you this too, if you compare Bryce Young to c J.

950
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: Stroud where they are going into year two, it could

951
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: not be more of a polar opposite situation. And this

952
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 2: really this might sound hyperbolic. I think it's on point.

953
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 2: I think the Bryce Young trade has the potential to

954
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 2: be the worst trade in NFL history. And I say

955
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: that knowing look at what the Cowboys did with the

956
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 2: Herschel Walker trade. I get all of that, But guys,

957
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 2: look at what CJ. Stroud is already, and look at

958
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: what Bryce Young isn't and look at what the Panthers

959
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: gave up to get him.

960
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 4: I know they moved.

961
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:48,479
Speaker 3: They gave up.

962
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 2: DJ Moore and all these draft picks to get Bryce Young,

963
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 2: who in year one was a dud. I'm not willing

964
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: to say that's all he's ever going to be. Time

965
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 2: will tell it's possible he is a dud. And it

966
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: sure looks like CJ. Stroud is a stud. And oh,

967
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 2: by the way, they traded what turned out to be

968
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 2: the number one pick in this year's draft. And if

969
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams is the real deal with the Bears, it'll

970
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 2: make the Bryce Young deal look even worse. I'm telling

971
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 2: you that's got the potential to be the worst ever

972
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: in the NFL.

973
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 5: Boy, I bet you right now the owner is wringing

974
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 5: his hands watching this these practices because if it's not

975
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 5: going well, right again, let's operate under the assumption it's

976
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 5: not going well for a second, and I'm not I

977
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 5: don't want to even forecast that because I hate it

978
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 5: for Bryce Young. But okay, so if we're gonna assume

979
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 5: it's not going well at camp, ringing his hands because

980
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 5: he has been the architect of some terrible decision making.

981
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 5: This is David Tepper since he's taken over the Carolina Panthers, right,

982
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 5: I mean, there's no leadership there. It's been a mixed

983
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 5: miss miss mash of different faces leading the organization. I

984
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 5: mean that's really the problem for the Carolina Panthers is

985
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 5: they are a faceless organization right now, Like, is it

986
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 5: leg it? Is he the star? Is it Bryce Young?

987
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 5: Do you want him to be the star? Is it

988
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 5: the hot offensive coordinator from the I mean, is it

989
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 5: Dave Canal's Do they have a face of the organization?

990
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 5: Yet the answer is no, you know, so there they

991
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 5: have an image problem. They like you said, this is

992
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 5: possibly one of the worst trades of all time. Again

993
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 5: operating under the assumption it's still not going well with Bryce.

994
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 5: So I don't mind this stemming back to the original

995
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 5: point you were making about the preseason, Brian, if you

996
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 5: have a situation where things are going poorly at training

997
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 5: camp with somebody who's supposed to be the face of

998
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 5: your organization. Why would you allow that to see the

999
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 5: night of day or the light of day.

1000
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 2: Why because it's going to see the light of day

1001
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 2: under a greater spotlight.

1002
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 5: Week one, I get it, But give again, give yourself

1003
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 5: some on ramp here, because let's not assume that Bryce

1004
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 5: Young is going to be the same player right now.

1005
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 5: You know, whatever today's date is August tenth, as he

1006
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 5: will be at kickoff for the Carolina Panthers when the

1007
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 5: regular season begins. And what happens if you know, you

1008
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 5: spoil him, you know, you put him out there. He's

1009
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 5: not ready yet. And by the way, I understand ready

1010
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 5: or not. It's the NFL. But you can slow roll

1011
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 5: certain things. You can make restaurants when they open that

1012
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 5: they'll do a soft open where they invite friends and

1013
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 5: family and people to come in and criticize them, but

1014
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 5: you know, do it constructively, not tear them down and say,

1015
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 5: oh my god, the kitchen was so slow and this,

1016
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 5: and you know, I mean we didn't even have matching

1017
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 5: silverware at our table. And the waiter, you know, his

1018
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 5: tie was crooked. It's like, no, no, no, it's a

1019
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 5: soft open. It's a soft open. Like let's get all

1020
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 5: let's hammer out all the kings during the preseason while

1021
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 5: we have time, and then let's unveil the menu when

1022
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 5: the regular season begins. I think this may be the

1023
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 5: smartest thing the Carolina Panthers can do right now is

1024
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 5: protect if they have problems, protect them from seeing the

1025
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 5: light of day until later on.

1026
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna take a little more of an

1027
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 3: optimistic approach to the Panthers this year because I really

1028
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 3: think last year was really bad. I think last year

1029
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 3: you want to talk about soft opening. Last year started

1030
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 3: one to ten. Frank Wright gets fired midseason. That I mean,

1031
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,959
Speaker 3: they had no offensive line, they had very little receiving group.

1032
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 3: I mean Adam feln was there like number one receiver

1033
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 3: for most of the year. They went out and added

1034
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 3: Deontay Johnson, who is a deep threat, who is a

1035
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 3: legitimate receiver, and of course you bring in Leggett in

1036
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 3: the draft, so now feeling's your three. That and a big, big,

1037
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 3: big change there now moving into this season. And then

1038
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 3: you bring in Dave Canalis, who just made Baker Mayfield

1039
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 3: look like the second coming of Joe Montana for a season.

1040
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 3: And here's the stat I will give you about rookie

1041
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 3: quarterbacks making the leap and why the coach is so important.

1042
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 3: His first year in the league, Jared Goff, number one pick,

1043
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 3: had a worse worse sufficiency rating than Bryce Young last

1044
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 3: year under Jeff Fisher. And then the Rams hired Sean McVeigh.

1045
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 3: And what did Jared Goff do the following year? He

1046
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 3: was a top five quarterback. They went to the Super

1047
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 3: Bowl very shortly after that. And I'm not saying that

1048
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 3: Panthers are gonna go to the super Bowl because they

1049
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 3: have a lot of holes on defense. Their defense is terrible.

1050
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 3: Their defense compared to the Rams defense during that run

1051
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 3: is night and day.

1052
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: Right, they don't have Aaron.

1053
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 3: Donald, but there is something about bringing in a brain

1054
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 3: into the coaching room to help get the most out

1055
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,479
Speaker 3: of a very talent Like are we in debate still

1056
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 3: that Bryce Young isn't talented number one pick Alabama National

1057
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 3: Champion Heisman Trophy went like? He is still arguably one

1058
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 3: of the most talented quarterbacks in our league. We just

1059
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 3: haven't seen it yet because last year they drove the

1060
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 3: truck off of a bridge and it just went down

1061
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 3: into the into the river. It was a disaster last year.

1062
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 3: I want to see I am reserving my judgment on

1063
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 3: Carolina because I want to see what Dave can Allis

1064
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 3: can do to Bryce Young, because I think there is

1065
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 3: a leap in Bryce Young's game that we just haven't

1066
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 3: seen yet, and I hope maybe they're saving it for

1067
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 3: the regular season. I hope we see it or else.

1068
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 3: My coach of the earpick might as well just use

1069
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 3: it as toilet paper right.

1070
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: Now, right, Yeah, I do like at the beginning of

1071
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 2: the show, how you threw Toledo under the bus. Right,

1072
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 2: so we come back full circle. Shout out to our

1073
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 2: technical producer Chris Purfett, because you mentioned Deontay Johnson, a

1074
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 2: new receiver with the Panthers, Toledo product.

1075
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's right, full circle.

1076
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 3: Right there you go.

1077
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: They're very nice.

1078
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 4: All right.

1079
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 2: We've got rich oron Berger, Penn State All American, Jared

1080
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 2: Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian no coming up next.

1081
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 2: I don't understand the continued belief in this guy. It

1082
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,320
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1083
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Speaker 2: extra five percent off. Okay, so we were just talking about

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00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: quarterbacks not getting playing time in the preseason. Justin Field

1095
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 2: Steelers quarterback got playing time in the preseason, and it's like,

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00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 2: no more playing time in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: Please please, It's just it's an I sore over here.

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Speaker 2: Two fumbled snaps last night against the Texans, got sacked

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Speaker 2: twice because he's just holding onto the ball, holding onto

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Speaker 2: the ball. It's like, get rid of it, get rid

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Speaker 2: of it. There's no quarterback clock sack. I don't understand

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Speaker 2: the hype train for Justin Fields.

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Speaker 1: I really do know.

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Speaker 2: There are still people saying he should be the quarterback.

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00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 2: He should be a Week one starter over Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Justin Fields hasn't been good in three years in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: and I know he's got a lot of ability.

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00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 2: He's a talented player who hasn't come close to putting

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Speaker 2: it together. And if you just look at what he's

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Speaker 2: done through three years, you can't blame all of that

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Speaker 2: on the Bears. Again, he couldn't take snaps last night,

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00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 2: and when you have DJ Moore and Cole Kmet as

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00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 2: weapons to throw to, you could do a whole lot worse.

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Speaker 2: That's at least enough to be better than he was.

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00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 2: And through three seasons, his quarterback rating is eighty two

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00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 2: point three just for reference, right, if you look at

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00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 2: last season two point three, that would get you in

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00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 2: the territory of scrolling down Desmond Ridder. I mean, that's

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Speaker 2: worse than d ridd last year. That's what Justin Fields

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Speaker 2: has done through three years in his NFL career. I

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Speaker 2: don't understand the misguided belief in this guy. He isn't

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00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 2: any good and I don't know why Paypall aren't saying

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Speaker 2: that there's still too much belief in him.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to trash him, that's just the reality

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Speaker 1: of the situation.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think he is uncomfortable learning a new system,

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Speaker 5: and I think we saw that with the Chicago Bears

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Speaker 5: the first time around. It was a very slow, you know,

1130
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 5: to warm situation in Chicago with Justin Fields, and he

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00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 5: showcased some explosiveness.

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Speaker 4: There's no question about it.

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00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 5: He can make plays when the ball's in his hand

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00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 5: and you know, and he's not charged with throwing it

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00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 5: on time. That was the biggest concern with him early

1136
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 5: and often throughout his Chicago Bear's career was you know,

1137
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 5: he's really having a hard time processing at the NFL speed.

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00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 5: Now I agree with you, Brian, to a certain extent.

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00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 5: You can't place all the blame on Chicago because there's

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00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 5: now a common denominator here. But we also have to

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00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 5: do we have to do ourselves adjusted and not be

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00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 5: chained to the moment. You know, we have to do

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00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 5: justin a justice by not being chained to the moment.

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00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 5: Like we can't say for certain it's not going to

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00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 5: work out in Pittsburgh. We've literally seen him for one

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00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 5: game in the preseason and it was a rough.

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00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 4: Outing for him.

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00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 5: What I will say is this, it was automatically clear

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00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 5: that c J. Stroud could play in this league and

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00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 5: he's exceptional, I get it. But it was automatically clear

1151
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 5: that Kyler Murray could play in this league. You know,

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00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 5: it was automatically clear that Trevor Lawrence could play in

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00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 5: this league. It was automatically clear that Justin Herbert could

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Speaker 5: play in this league. And the reason why I'm comparing

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00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 5: him to a mismash of names there is because I'm

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00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 5: picking out certain guys who were labeled as dual threat

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00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 5: quarterbacks coming out of college, who immediately it was very

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Speaker 5: clear that they could play.

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Speaker 4: It this league. That's not justin fields. It's not justin fields.

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Speaker 5: We're not sure, and we're still not sure, and if

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Speaker 5: the Pittsburgh Steelers have to rely on him this season,

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00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 5: we still may not be sure by the end of

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Speaker 5: this this season.

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Speaker 4: But to your point, it's.

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Speaker 5: Gonna become a lot clearer that maybe at best he's

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00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 5: going to be a second tier quarterback or potentially not

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Speaker 5: even a second tier quarterback.

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Speaker 3: This is a rare situation where I can actually relate

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00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 3: to a playing a field playing story on the field.

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Speaker 3: So when I was a high school quarterback, my biggest

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00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 3: struggle was the center quarterback exchange. We had a center

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Speaker 3: who was a little bit you know, wonky with it

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00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 3: and everything was under center for the most part, and

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Speaker 3: I struggled with that a lot for majority of my career.

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Speaker 3: That's the reason why I didn't make it in the NFL. Right,

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Speaker 3: it couldn't get the quarterback exchange. That was the only

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Speaker 3: reason why I did not make it to the No,

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Speaker 3: I think there is a certain it's funny when you

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Speaker 3: say that and there actually is someone on the cold

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Speaker 3: plate center and play to the NFL, who can you

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Speaker 3: know rebute me? No, there, it's it's it's right, right, Rich.

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00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 3: It's a dual it's a dual responsibility. Like it's on

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00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 3: the quarterback and the quarterback gets most of the blame

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00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 3: when those things go wrong, but it's also on the

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Speaker 3: center as well. And to an extent, Tomlin did address

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00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 3: that after the game. He called it, I like this,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna start using this the CQ exchange sounds like

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00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 3: some kind of fancy uh, some kind of fancy you

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Speaker 3: know stock that we're buying. I'm going to the CQ exchange.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna go buy this fancy stock. I want Justin

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Speaker 3: Fieldz to succeed. I just you're right, we haven't seen

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Speaker 3: it and and now he has to go to a

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Speaker 3: new situation, new new coordinator, new everything, and learn it

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Speaker 3: all again and and kind of get reacclimated. I do

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Speaker 3: think in terms of the mental struggles that players face,

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Speaker 3: I do think Mike Tomlin is, especially the quarterback face,

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Speaker 3: is the most or at least you know, the most

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Speaker 3: pressure from the.

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Speaker 1: Outside any position in the league.

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Speaker 3: I do think Mike Tomlin's really equipped to handle that

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Speaker 3: and to help Justin handle some of those struggles. But

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Speaker 3: at the end of the day, I think you said it, Brian,

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Speaker 3: you can either play or you can't like, and I

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Speaker 3: haven't seen it yet from Justin. We're still seeing a

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Speaker 3: lot of frantic I did write some notes because I

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Speaker 3: watched this full game. It was on NFL Network last night.

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Speaker 1: Happy feet is.

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Speaker 3: What I call it, in the pocket, very quick to

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Speaker 3: abandon the play like these are all things we've seen before.

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Speaker 3: Takes too many sacks, like these are all things that

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Speaker 3: were problems for him in Chicago. Do I think they're

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Speaker 3: all gonna get ironed out and one start in pretreseason. No,

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Speaker 3: It's obviously gonna take time. But we haven't seen improvements.

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Speaker 3: And I think at the level that Justin's playing and

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Speaker 3: what is this fifth.

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Speaker 4: Year in the league.

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Speaker 3: We need improvements, We need to see improvements, and we

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Speaker 3: haven't seen those improvements yet, so I hope we get them.

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Speaker 3: The fact that Russell Wilson is not going to play

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Speaker 3: in the preseason I think helps because I think Justin's

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Speaker 3: gonna get a ton of time and a ton of reps.

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Speaker 3: But we got to see some improvements at some point.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, And that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: I always find it interesting when a guy like Justin Fields,

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Speaker 2: he's a great example. He's made some highlight reel plays

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Speaker 2: within his three years in the NFL, and some people

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Speaker 2: latch onto that, and they latch onto it too much,

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Speaker 2: and they think he's got more ability than he actually has.

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Speaker 2: Right Like, he has some ability and he's able to

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Speaker 2: especially when he's running the ball. He's a magician. He's

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Speaker 2: magical when he's running the ball. He is a pure athlete,

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Speaker 2: but in terms of throwing it with consistency and accuracy,

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Speaker 2: and he leaves a lot to be desired right there.

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Speaker 1: And it's always.

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Speaker 2: Interesting to me how some people will point the finger elsewhere.

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Speaker 2: Right They might see a couple of jaw dropping plays

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Speaker 2: from Justin Fields, and they'll immediately say, well, it's it's this,

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Speaker 2: it's it's the head coach, it's Eebraflus, it's it's the

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, it's it's just a lack of wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: And at some point you have to stop pointing the

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01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 2: finger at everybody, but justin Fields, you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 2: at some point you have to point the finger at

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01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 2: him and say DJ Moore and Cole Kimet are good enough,

1244
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 2: the surrounding cast is good enough where he should be better,

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Speaker 2: especially in year four.

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Speaker 1: Now, like we're is it too much to ask to

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Speaker 1: get the center? What was it? The c qanchine?

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Speaker 3: That's odd? So I love it.

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Speaker 2: No, that's not too much. So it's just funny to me.

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Speaker 2: And it's not just a Justin Fields thing. There are

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Speaker 2: some quarterbacks where the fingers are pointed all around them

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01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 2: instead of at them, And then there are other quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: where the fingers are pointed directly at them when maybe

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Speaker 2: it is smarter to point it around them. I'm fascinated

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Speaker 2: by the fact that some quarterbacks get the benefit of

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Speaker 2: the doubt and some don't. I think Justin Fields has

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01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 2: irrationally gotten the bed fitted the doubt because it's clear

1258
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Speaker 2: three years in. It ain't just about what's not around him,

1259
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Speaker 2: it's about him not bringing enough to the table.

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Speaker 5: Also, I think that's probably a sign of the times also, Brian,

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Speaker 5: because there's been a sea change in the NFL. There

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Speaker 5: has been a change in the expectation for coaches in

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Speaker 5: the league to have more accountability than players at times.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's more shared than that.

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Speaker 5: But here's my example, Like things didn't go well for

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Speaker 5: part of a season with Frank Reich and Bryce Young,

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01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 5: they got rid of Frank Reich. He went from a

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Speaker 5: head coaching job with the Colts to a head coaching

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Speaker 5: job with the Carolina Panthers, and was it week nine,

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Speaker 5: week ten, week twelve when he got fired. I mean,

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Speaker 5: they didn't even give him a full season. With Bryce Young,

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Speaker 5: that is how short a leash a lot of these

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Speaker 5: coaches have with players. Because what's happened is you've seen

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Speaker 5: it many times over now in recent history, where a

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Speaker 5: player who's astoundingly talented at the college level jumps into

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Speaker 5: the NFL A La CJ. Stroud, you know, the the

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Speaker 5: quarterback DuJour who's made the acclamation and he's made it

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Speaker 5: look seamless. He's made it look easy at times, and

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Speaker 5: it's not. I promise you it's not. But there's a

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Speaker 5: lot of owners now who are impatient with their coaches

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01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 5: because you look over the fence and you say, well,

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Speaker 5: why is Damika Ryan's able to do this in Houston,

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Speaker 5: but we're not able to do this here in Carolina.

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Speaker 5: You're out of here, Frank, Well, guess what. It's harder

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Speaker 5: than that, you know, sometimes it takes the player.

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Speaker 4: A couple of years.

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Speaker 5: See Gino Smith for details. You know they wrote, but

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Speaker 5: iding right back, well, he had that season nine years

1289
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 5: into his NFL career with the Seattle Seahawks. Now it

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01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 5: hasn't been great since that season. But my point being like,

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Speaker 5: this is a difficult game to figure out, and I

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01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 5: think for the first time in at least my football

1293
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 5: watching life, we're seeing coaches get handed more of that

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01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 5: accountability to make sure they that these NFL teams are

1295
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 5: reaping all the benefits of these players that these.

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Speaker 4: College programs reaped.

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Speaker 5: Now the NFL is more difficult, and I'm sure that

1298
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 5: these NFL owners are aware of that, and sometimes they're

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Speaker 5: more patient than the owner in Carolina with their head

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Speaker 5: coach or their coaching staff.

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Speaker 4: But there has been a sea change.

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01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 5: I think these players are getting blamed a lot less,

1303
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 5: and these coaches are being blamed more because we have

1304
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 5: a much more accommodating nature at the NFL level, changing

1305
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 5: offenses or defenses to match the specific talents and skills

1306
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 5: of the player coming in, as opposed to trying to

1307
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,439
Speaker 5: force feed a new player. Hey, this is how things

1308
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 5: are done here, and you're gonna be good. Otherwise you're

1309
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 5: gonna be gone.

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Speaker 4: Now.

1311
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 5: Owners are like, no, no, no, no. The players are

1312
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 5: the valuable part. You make them work in our system.

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01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:00,040
Speaker 3: What Rich is referring to is a change in the

1315
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 3: macro economic view of the NFL. And he's one hundred

1316
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 3: percent right. The players are worth more today than they

1317
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 3: were ten years ago, fifteen, twenty years ago. They're more

1318
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 3: valuable today. The coaches are still valuable, but they're not

1319
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 3: as valuable. There's no way the offensive coordinator on any

1320
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 3: team gets paid as much as a quarterback or even

1321
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 3: a top receiver. I mean it's not even close.

1322
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: The thing like CJ.

1323
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 3: Stroud fundamentally changed the way the higher ups in the

1324
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 3: NFL view the ceiling of rookie quarterbacks, and it's unfortunate.

1325
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 3: Because now everyone else after is gonna get graded on

1326
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 3: that scale because CJ. Stroud has moved the needle that much.

1327
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 3: And you can even take the rookie out of the

1328
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 3: mix and just put young quarterbacks right on that first

1329
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 3: contract to get the most out of that rookie contract.

1330
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 3: You're now being graded against what Stroud did. What Stroud

1331
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 3: did is even more impressive. Honestly, we should just change

1332
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 3: this whole show to just CJ. Stroud love, because not

1333
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 3: only are they playing him in preseason, he looked good

1334
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 3: in preseason. But last year the Texans had the worst

1335
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 3: injury luck in the NFL and they still won the

1336
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 3: division with a rookie quarterback and a rookie head coach.

1337
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,439
Speaker 3: The offensive line was completely in tatters, they lost most

1338
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 3: of their receiving corps at some point during the season,

1339
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 3: they were without somebody. I mean, it was just a

1340
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 3: laundry list of injuries for the Texans last year, and

1341
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 3: they still had all that success because they still had CJ.

1342
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 3: Stroud and he was able to overcome what has been

1343
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 3: a really steep learning curve in the NFL for rookie quarterbacks.

1344
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 3: Go back and watch the clips of the qbs in

1345
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 3: the room with the giants and hard knocks. Reading back

1346
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 3: those plays, you better study for a month. It's like

1347
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 3: learning chemistry. It's really complicated and not everyone can do it.

1348
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 3: There's a physical element to play in the position that

1349
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 3: I understand, but the mental element to playing quarterback in

1350
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 3: the NFL, now you have to be like a rocket

1351
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 3: scientist almost to be able to decipher all this language.

1352
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 3: I think what Mike Tomlin does is he provides accountability

1353
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 3: for Justin Fields, but at the end of the day,

1354
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 3: Justin Fields has to take that next step himself, and

1355
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 3: if he doesn't, he's gonna get another second quarterback job

1356
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 3: somewhere else, and then eventually he'll be probably taking one

1357
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 3: of our jobs doing one of these shows.

1358
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 2: By the way, you know who the rocket scientist of

1359
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio is.

1360
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: I'll give you a hint.

1361
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 2: His name is Isaac lowand Troy, and he's got the

1362
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 2: latest di Loo.

1363
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:25,600
Speaker 1: What's going on, buddy.

1364
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 10: An experiment went wrong a couple of chemicals in my

1365
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 10: rocket science trajectory calculations. Unfortunately, you'll be hearing alarm bells

1366
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 10: within the next thirty seconds. So I'll try to make

1367
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 10: it quick. Starting with NFL preseason action and Michael Pennix

1368
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 10: Junior making his debut for the Atlanta Falcons. The rookie

1369
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 10: quarterback completed nine of sixteen for one hundred and forty

1370
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 10: yards in the Miami dolphins twenty to thirteen victory over

1371
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 10: the Falcons. Philadelphia's Jake Elliott kicked the game winning forty

1372
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 10: nine yard field goal at the Gun and their sixteen

1373
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 10: to thirteen win at Baltimore. Russell Wilson did not play

1374
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,839
Speaker 10: in Pittsburgh's twenty to twelve loss to the Houston Texans

1375
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 10: because of a calf injury.

1376
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 7: Justin Fields did.

1377
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 10: He completed five six passes for sixty seven yards. In

1378
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 10: Major League Baseball on Friday night, Shohey O'tani hit his

1379
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 10: thirty fifth home run in the Los Angeles Dodgers nine

1380
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 10: to five win over the Pittsburgh Pirates and in the

1381
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,839
Speaker 10: Arizona Diamondbacks three to two victory over the Philadelphia Phillies.

1382
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 10: Arizona's Adrian del Castillo hit the game winning home run

1383
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:27,640
Speaker 10: in the bottom of the ninth inning. It was the

1384
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 10: first home run of his career in the second game

1385
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 10: of his career, coming up at the top of the hour.

1386
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 10: At the Olympics, the Gold medal match in women's soccer

1387
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:40,600
Speaker 10: between Team USA and Brazil and finally fellas in yesterday's

1388
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 10: gold medal match in women's beach volleyball, the players from

1389
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 10: Canada and Brazil got into a heated argument at the net. Suddenly,

1390
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 10: the DJ at the venue began playing the song Imagine

1391
01:09:56,479 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 10: by John Lennon, and that stopped the argument dead in

1392
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 10: its tracks, leaving the players and fans smiling and laughing.

1393
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 7: Listen to this.

1394
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,719
Speaker 10: The first thing you're gonna hear is the players arguing

1395
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 10: and the referee desperately trying to stop the argument when

1396
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 10: Imagine kicks in on the PA system.

1397
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 7: Listen.

1398
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 10: Brazil wound up winning the match, but the real winner

1399
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 10: was peace.

1400
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 7: Back to you, guys.

1401
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 2: I gotta wonder if they played Raining Blood from Slayer,

1402
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 2: what would.

1403
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 4: Have happened there?

1404
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 2: You know, I.

1405
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 1: J yeah, it might have been a different outcome.

1406
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1407
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, guys, I'm already not a fan

1408
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 2: of something in the NFL. Okay, I was watching a

1409
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 2: little bit of the Dolphins preseason game last night the

1410
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 2: Hawkeye Technology.

1411
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 3: Oh this was on last night.

1412
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 4: I didn't notice you.

1413
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was one of the select games that had

1414
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 2: the old Hawkeye latest technology, So it's basically replacing the

1415
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 2: chain game, right where it's the tennis type thing where

1416
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:05,560
Speaker 2: it's got a bunch of cameras and you can calibrate

1417
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 2: if it's a first down or not. So the thing

1418
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 2: is it was a close play, right, that's why there's

1419
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 2: a measurement or a Hawkeye review if you will. And

1420
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 2: the officials just stand around like idiots. They're like, all right, uh,

1421
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 2: just waiting for the hawk guy technology to do its thing,

1422
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 2: I guess. And then they show it and it's a

1423
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 2: first down and the Falcons challenged it. They're like, but wait,

1424
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,640
Speaker 2: we think the guy's knee was down or he was

1425
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 2: out of bounds before he got the first down.

1426
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 1: Turns out the.

1427
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,440
Speaker 3: Falcons were lenge Hawkey. I thought Hawkeye was the challenge.

1428
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 2: But that's a whole point, right, Like it just shows

1429
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 2: you where the ball is spotted if it's a first

1430
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 2: down or not. But there's something else to be worked out,

1431
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 2: like where should the ball actually be spots.

1432
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 5: Which is a disaster already, right, yeah, so I hate

1433
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 5: it already.

1434
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,639
Speaker 2: It's not tennis, you know, it's is it in or out?

1435
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 2: It isn't like this other part of the did he

1436
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 2: step out of bounds before ahead? I hate it. I

1437
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 2: don't like it at all. Leave the chain gang it

1438
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 2: was fine. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

1439
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent. Look, here's the deal. I do

1440
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 5: appreciate change. I think it's inevitable. However, much like the

1441
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 5: kickoff rule, much like the new technologies that are being rolled.

1442
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 4: Out, change can feel really.

1443
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 5: Clunky sometimes, and if it doesn't improve things like automatically immediately.

1444
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 4: I hope, I hope the thought.

1445
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 5: Is, Okay, we're gonna stick with this as long as

1446
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 5: we can until we decide it ain't working anymore. So

1447
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 5: I hope the same thing with the technology is the

1448
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 5: same thing with the kickoff. If it isn't working, let's

1449
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 5: get away from it and let's do it quicker. I

1450
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 5: don't understand why we have to slock through a full

1451
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 5: season of some of these changes. Is there any way

1452
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 5: where just because you committed to something in the preseason

1453
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 5: and you had a competition committee or decision makers in

1454
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 5: the league make these decisions in the preseason, does it.

1455
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:06,639
Speaker 4: Have to stick the entire year.

1456
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 5: That's my one complaint with some of these leagues, not

1457
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 5: all of them, but some of these leagues with some

1458
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 5: of the changes they make.

1459
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know that this was gonna be in

1460
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 3: that game last night. I would have paid a lot

1461
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 3: more closer attention to it because I was interested to

1462
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 3: see how this would play out.

1463
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 1: And my hope was.

1464
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 3: Is that it would be seamless, is that there would

1465
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 3: be kind of like tennis. Right, there's a bit of

1466
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 3: a you know, confusion about where the ball was in

1467
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,640
Speaker 3: or out. Everyone pauses for a minute, they look at

1468
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 3: the screen, you see the little graphic and with an

1469
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 3: animation like boom, it's awesome.

1470
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1471
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,719
Speaker 3: No, I honestly think it is the best replay system

1472
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 3: we have in sports today. Yep, it honestly is. It's

1473
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 3: just it's quick, it's seamless. The video is on the screen.

1474
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 3: You could see it plainly. There is no debate, there's

1475
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 3: no like arguments on whether or not the ball was

1476
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 3: in or out like it is on the screen. You

1477
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 3: can see the shadow of the ball. Now, the one

1478
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,640
Speaker 3: pushback I have is the shadows like a little elongated

1479
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 3: in like a weird way. And I guess that's just

1480
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 3: like how the ball hits like physics. I guess this

1481
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 3: move is so fast. Yeah, yeah, it must be a

1482
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 3: physics thing. The question I had here was about what

1483
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 3: you said, Brian, it's not where the ball is just

1484
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 3: in general, it's where the ball is when the play

1485
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 3: happens at its apex right knee down feed out. If

1486
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 3: there now is a second layer of encryption that is

1487
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 3: needed to decipher this code, oh my goodness, gracious, it

1488
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 3: is going to be a train wreck this year. And

1489
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 3: I agree there are some parts to the chain gang

1490
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 3: that I struggle with, but at least at the end

1491
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 3: of the day we do get the end result, albeit

1492
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 3: margin of error included. Now we have another layer. You're saying,

1493
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 3: even after they do the hawkeye, there's still another like

1494
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 3: challenge that can still happen. Oh, this is gonna be bad.

1495
01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 4: This is gonna be bad. I don't like it.

1496
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 2: By the way, I love like with Wimbledon when they

1497
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 2: show the tennis replay, they actually have on the graphic

1498
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:08,679
Speaker 2: like a couple of blades of grass that kind.

1499
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 3: Of like flitterers the round at it. They're so good

1500
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 3: at it, so it's perfect.

1501
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 2: Have we got Rich Rodberger, Penn State All American, Jared

1502
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:17,879
Speaker 2: Smith FSR Betting analyst.

1503
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm Brian though.

1504
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,959
Speaker 2: Coming up next, I've got a bet that you might hate,

1505
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 2: but it's gonna cash.

1506
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 1: All Right, we get into prop.

1507
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 2: It up right around the corner our bonding time of

1508
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 2: the show. It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on

1509
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here

1510
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

1511
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 1: It is time for the bonding portion of the show.

1512
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 2: Let's dive into this prop it up. Ah, we love

1513
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 2: the prop bet market. We'll start with you, Jared, what

1514
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 2: are you thinking?

1515
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 4: Well?

1516
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,719
Speaker 3: Enjoy you guys, about two more weeks of baseball prop

1517
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 3: bets to infiltrate your airwaves here until we make the

1518
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 3: full transitional foot I'm kind of getting away from the

1519
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 3: nurfy yurfee stuff. It's just been so much work and

1520
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 3: I really have to focus on the real football coming

1521
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 3: up soon, right, So, but I'll give you a couple

1522
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 3: of baseball props and pitcher props today that I like.

1523
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 3: I like Justin Steele's strikeout over it said at five

1524
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 3: and a half right now, based on the White Sox today,

1525
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 3: I think it's a relatively soft number, considering the White

1526
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 3: Sox are also very soft. They strike out at the

1527
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,759
Speaker 3: sixth highest rate the lefties this year. I think Steele

1528
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 3: is gonna see this White Sox team for the first

1529
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:29,719
Speaker 3: time this year, which is always advantage Hitcher first time through.

1530
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:33,719
Speaker 3: And I again, six innings very average for Justin Steel.

1531
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 3: One strikeout per inning is something I definitely see today.

1532
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 3: So over five and a half makes a ton of sense.

1533
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 4: Man, that's great stuff.

1534
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 5: Listen, I circle back to me because I have some

1535
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 5: interesting thoughts on what.

1536
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 4: We may see today in the Olympics.

1537
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, yeah, all right, all right, okay, I'll

1538
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 2: take it from here. This is kind of like the

1539
01:16:55,720 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 2: men's relay team, right, We're plucky EXE between me and

1540
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 2: years right rich, Like, listen, I can't quite get the baton,

1541
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 2: you know.

1542
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 5: It was a rain slicked baton, and I just I

1543
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 5: wanted to hand it off smoother, but I wanted to

1544
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 5: stretch my legs a little bit.

1545
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 4: So yeah, take it from your power.

1546
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 1: Hey, all good.

1547
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at the This might be more back

1548
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 2: to the futures, but I don't care.

1549
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 1: It still works with prop it up as well.

1550
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 2: I'm looking at a season prop for an NFL quarterback. Okay,

1551
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:33,879
Speaker 2: the lowest passing yardage prop that offered for the season

1552
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 2: is with Giants quarterback Daniel Jones. We're talking at bet

1553
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 2: MGM two thousand, six hundred and seventy five and a

1554
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,600
Speaker 2: half yards twenty.

1555
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 1: Six seventy five.

1556
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 2: This is a gift from the gambling gods over here.

1557
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 2: This is the ultimate by Low Territory. Daniel Jones isn't

1558
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 2: very good and he was injured last season, right season

1559
01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 2: ending injury. He had the neck injury early on at

1560
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 2: toward ACL. I doubt lightning strikes again back to back

1561
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 2: seasons where.

1562
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 1: It's a season ending injury.

1563
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 2: And I also think that because if you look at

1564
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 2: what he did as a rookie, he threw for three

1565
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 2: thousand yards and twelve starts as a rookie quarterback. I'm

1566
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 2: not telling you Daniel Jones is any good, but I'm

1567
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 2: telling you he's not that bad to get to twenty

1568
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 2: seven hundred yards passing in today's NFL. They're not benching

1569
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 2: him for Drew Locke, you know, they're not benching him

1570
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 2: for Tommy Cutlets, Tommy DeVito.

1571
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 7: Right.

1572
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 2: This is a This is from the Giants preseason game.

1573
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 2: What Carl Banks said on the telecast, Drew.

1574
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 11: Locke is a guy Kiel that the coach said he

1575
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 11: will rip it in there.

1576
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 4: But he ripped it in there and he threw it

1577
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 4: into a team.

1578
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 7: That's right.

1579
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 1: That was on Fox New York. He threw up really

1580
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 1: terrible interception.

1581
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 2: So Daniel Jones is the guy and he's not getting benched.

1582
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 2: I doubt he goes down with this. He's an ending injury.

1583
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 2: Twenty seven hundred yards? That what's the interceptions number.

1584
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: For Daniel Jones.

1585
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 2: After hearing that clip, God, I'll have to take back

1586
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 2: on that way, but I got the over on the yards.

1587
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 1: We're back to you, Rich.

1588
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 4: I know what.

1589
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 5: I wanted more time to make sure. I wanted to

1590
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 5: say this. I got a bad feeling. Oh no, I'm

1591
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 5: taking under fourteen and a half on Lebron. I'm taking

1592
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:28,759
Speaker 5: under fourteen and a half on Kevin Durant.

1593
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 4: Points score tonight. I think this is going to be

1594
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 4: an outside shooting game.

1595
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 5: I think Victor Webbin Yama is going to control the

1596
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 5: paint well for Team France, and I.

1597
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 4: Do not have a good feeling about goal. So there

1598
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 4: it is.

1599
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 5: I think this may be a lower scoring game for

1600
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 5: some of your stars on Team USA. Maybe I'll change

1601
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 5: over the last hour, but there, that's where I'm at

1602
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 5: with player props.

1603
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 3: Here go Brian Daniel Jones fifty to one to lead

1604
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 3: the league in interceptions.

1605
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 4: What do you think? Fifty to one?

1606
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 3: Fifth?

1607
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 4: Fifty to one.

1608
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 1: He doesn't throw a ton of hicks though, that's the thing.

1609
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 4: You know.

1610
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 1: I like him over his passing.

1611
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 2: Yardage prop All right, coming up next? Why is this

1612
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 2: guy still employed? So there was an interesting piece that

1613
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 2: came out on ESPN this week about the Eagles. Right,

1614
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 2: this is from Tim McManus and Jeremy Fowler, and it's

1615
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 2: entitled Inside the Disconnect between Eagles coach Nick Sirianni and

1616
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 2: quarterback Jalen Hurts, and in it our bunch of details

1617
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:38,440
Speaker 2: numerous sources with direct knowledge saying the relationship was fractured

1618
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 2: in unhealthy last season. Here's the thing, guys, this is

1619
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 2: what I'm thinking. Why is Nick Sirianni still the head

1620
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:49,680
Speaker 2: coach of the Philadelphia Eagles. You know, the team absolutely

1621
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 2: collapsed last season, lost six of seven. Firing defensive coordinator

1622
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 2: Sean Deci midway through the season and hiring Matt Patricia

1623
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 2: was a disaster. That's Sirianni's fingerprints are all over that thing.

1624
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 2: Philly got clabbered by Tampa thirty two to nine in

1625
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 2: the wild card round. And on top of that, Sirianni

1626
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 2: and Hurts aren't even getting along. Really, this is an

1627
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 2: audio smoochacho situation over here with Philadelphia. Now, they discussed

1628
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:25,560
Speaker 2: hiring Bill Belichick and they ultimately decided to stick with Sirianni.

1629
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 1: If you have a chance to get.

1630
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 2: Belichick, you do it all day long instead of running

1631
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 2: it back with Sirianni. And I know some people will say, well,

1632
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 2: they made it to a super Bowl last year. Yeah,

1633
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 2: Doug Peterson won a super Bowl in Philly and was

1634
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 2: fired shortly after that. Things changed quickly in the NFL,

1635
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 2: and if you have a chance to upgrade, you could

1636
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 2: play the same game personnel wise. You could say, hey,

1637
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 2: we just got to a super Bowl and Hassan Reddick

1638
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 2: was a big part of this, and it's like he's

1639
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:57,639
Speaker 2: not there anymore.

1640
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 1: You know, they make personnel changes all the time.

1641
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 2: So if I look at Nick Sirianni and I compare

1642
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 2: him to Bill Belichick coaching wise, if you could convince

1643
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:11,719
Speaker 2: Belichick that Howie Roseman is the GM, he runs the show.

1644
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 2: Personnel wise, you coach the team. If you could convince

1645
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 2: him to do that it's a football crime not to

1646
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 2: have him in the building right now.

1647
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Well, listen, I don't disagree with you about

1648
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 5: Bill Belichick.

1649
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 4: I think it's almost malpractice that he's not coaching this year.

1650
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 5: But you know, I guess I'll move on from there

1651
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 5: to discuss Sirianni and his tenure with the Eagles, which

1652
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 5: I would label as ten you us, I mean, he doesn't.

1653
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 5: The clock is ticking loudly in the background. And here's

1654
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 5: the problem for the Eagles. His players know it. When

1655
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 5: you have a situation where a coach was on the

1656
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 5: hot seat, that it was publicly known that his job

1657
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:58,599
Speaker 5: was for sale, if the right gentleman caller came by,

1658
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 5: you know, and the right amount of money, you know,

1659
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 5: made himself available to take his job, Like if Bill

1660
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 5: Belichick was willing to sign maybe a smaller contract, I'm

1661
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 5: sure the Philadelphia Eagles would have jumped out the opportunity.

1662
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 5: My guess is a lot of the reason why Bill

1663
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 5: doesn't have a job is because he wasn't going to

1664
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 5: coach unless he had ultimate control of the roster and

1665
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 5: all decision making and then could be your head coach.

1666
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 5: He wasn't gonna accept an assistant job, and also that

1667
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 5: he was going to be paid as handsomely as he

1668
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 5: was getting paid in New England to do it. And

1669
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 5: so it's not like the Eagles missed out because they

1670
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:42,679
Speaker 5: have another bite at that apple this upcoming offseason, because

1671
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 5: Bill Belichick is still a free agent. So I don't

1672
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 5: look at that as being as big of a problem

1673
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 5: for the Eagles.

1674
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 4: Here's what I'll say about Nick Sirianni.

1675
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 5: And this is a guy I know personally who was

1676
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:57,799
Speaker 5: one of my coaches in San Diego when.

1677
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 4: The Chargers were still in San Diego and I was

1678
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 4: still in playing football. He's he's a great people person.

1679
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 5: He's a good speaker, he's a good motivator's he's the

1680
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 5: type of.

1681
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:10,440
Speaker 4: Person who will win you over in the room.

1682
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 5: And you got to remember, there's only thirty two of

1683
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 5: these jobs, and he was able to commence in an

1684
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 5: organization that he was the right man for one of

1685
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 5: these jobs. And so he probably met with the owner,

1686
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 5: the front office with Roseman and Laurie, and he sat

1687
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 5: down and said and pitched himself or repitched himself as

1688
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 5: the reason why the Eagles are gonna have success now

1689
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 5: and into the future. And They're gonna give him a

1690
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 5: short leash to do that. This could be one of

1691
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 5: those mid season firings, or this could be one of

1692
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 5: the stories because we know the Eagles are a talented roster.

1693
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 5: Where come the end of the season, we go, Oh,

1694
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 5: the best thing the Eagles ever did was kept Nick Xiiani.

1695
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 4: Look how well he's leading this team. Yeah.

1696
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 3: I read that story. It was really well written. I

1697
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 3: thought it really did a good job source things. I

1698
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 3: know the anonymous sources aren't great, but at least it

1699
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 3: gave us some sort of an insight into what was

1700
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 3: happening last year in Philly, which is a really It

1701
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 3: was interesting because I think the talent didn't match the

1702
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 3: output of what we got on the field and between

1703
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 3: the years. Obviously this was a maturity thing. This wasn't

1704
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 3: a talent problem. I think Nick Sirianni, you take out

1705
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 3: all of the distractions and a little bit of the immaturity.

1706
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: I think he is one of the best coaches in

1707
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 1: this league.

1708
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 3: I think he is more suited at this stage to

1709
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:36,679
Speaker 3: coach the Eagles than Bill Belichick would have been. I do,

1710
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 3: I honestly do, and I think the situation that needed

1711
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 3: to happen was Nick needed to grow up and he's

1712
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 3: only four.

1713
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 1: Again, in terms of NFL coaching, he's pretty young.

1714
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 3: So he had a lot of success early, and this

1715
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:54,720
Speaker 3: happens a lot in life. You're young, relatively speaking to

1716
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 3: the rest of your peers. He's a younger head coach.

1717
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 3: He has the success very early right away, and then

1718
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 3: we don't get that the second year, Right, you take

1719
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 3: a step backwards. Well, why did they take a step

1720
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 3: backwards where the players worse?

1721
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:08,639
Speaker 1: No seam was the same.

1722
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 3: It was the scheme, it was the defense, it was

1723
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 3: the behind the scenes, it was the coaching quarterback dilemma.

1724
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 3: How much is too much in terms of hands on? Well,

1725
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator situation last year was bad. They brought

1726
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 3: in I think one of the brightest offensive minds we

1727
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 3: have in this sport, Kellen Moore. Everything I'm reading in

1728
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 3: that article and everything I'm hearing from training camp, he

1729
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 3: is much more hands off Nick Sirianni is this year

1730
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 3: with the offense, Kellen Moore is running the show. The

1731
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 3: defensive side is intriguing because Fangio, from what I understand,

1732
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 3: his scheme does take some time to kind of absorb.

1733
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 3: So how quickly will the Eagles be able to start defensively.

1734
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 3: I think when the year begins, we're gonna have more

1735
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 3: questions about the Eagles defense than the offense going forward,

1736
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 3: and as the season progresses, I think both units will

1737
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,599
Speaker 3: get in sync, and not justin Timberlake in sync, like

1738
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 3: in sync. I honestly believe that that keeping Sirianni was

1739
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 3: the best decision possible for this Eagles team, because again,

1740
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 3: I don't think it's talent or its brain power. I

1741
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 3: think it's just maturity and growing up on the job.

1742
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 3: And I think Jalen hurts a Nick Sirianni needed to

1743
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 3: have a kumbaya. They needed to come together, They needed

1744
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 3: to make some changes in the coordinator rooms. They made

1745
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 3: those changes and everything has been positive. Like you take

1746
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 3: away some of those inefficiencies last year on the on

1747
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 3: the sidelines were the Eagles not a Super Bowl contender

1748
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 3: like the whole season and the collapse was very surprising

1749
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:39,679
Speaker 3: and calamitous. If they get back to that level this year,

1750
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 3: we're not gonna be talking about Nick Sirianni not having

1751
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 3: a job. We're gonna be talking about, Wow, can you

1752
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 3: believe they almost fired Nick Sirianni.

1753
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 2: I mean, look, if if you're dating a girl and

1754
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 2: she's okay, she's all right, she leaves something to be desired,

1755
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 2: and you get a chance to date a supermodel, it

1756
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 2: makes no sense to be like, yeah, but I think

1757
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 2: we can turn the corner together, you know what I mean.

1758
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick with my current relationship. It's like, I

1759
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 2: get it if you've got a great relationship and a

1760
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 2: great thing going, but if you've got a chance to upgrade,

1761
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 2: you do it. And Nick Sirianni this guy, I just

1762
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 2: don't see how you lose six of seven games. You're

1763
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 2: butting heads with the quarterback, and it's like, nah, let's

1764
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 2: not pursue Bill Belichick. And the other thing is I'm

1765
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 2: gonna get too far in the weeds with this. But

1766
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 2: I think some of it we're just anticipating that he

1767
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 2: has to have personnel control. He told Arthur Blank with

1768
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 2: the Falcons job that he was interviewing for that he

1769
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 2: was willing to work with the GM Terry Fontina, And

1770
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 2: so it's like he wouldn't be willing to work with

1771
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 2: Howie Roseman if he was offered.

1772
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 1: That job, He'd be out of his mind not to

1773
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 1: work with that. This could be his Tom Brady moment.

1774
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 2: Think about Tom Brady going to Tampa and winning a

1775
01:28:56,920 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, how much that did for his legacy. If

1776
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 2: Belichick went to Philly or elsewhere and won a Super Bowl,

1777
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 2: that would be huge for his legacy. Winning without Tom Brady,

1778
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 2: he'd be out of his mind to say no to

1779
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:15,480
Speaker 2: the Eagles because he's gotta have full control over personnel matters.

1780
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:17,719
Speaker 2: I just don't think he's that dumb.

1781
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 5: Hang on, hang on though, having having having a statement

1782
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 5: out there like that is very Bill Belichick friendly.

1783
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I'm willing to work with font and I would.

1784
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 3: Have loved to work with and they were really get

1785
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 3: the job, and it's like, hey, go away, Terry, I

1786
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:34,599
Speaker 3: want to Yeah, here.

1787
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 5: Arthur, I just I'm gonna sign this part of this

1788
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:39,680
Speaker 5: contract and you signed the other side of it. And

1789
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 5: somewhere in the the finer print it says I do

1790
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 5: have last say on the roster, but I will.

1791
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 4: Work with these guys.

1792
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:48,599
Speaker 1: I can see that with fun though.

1793
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 2: But like Howie Roseman and a proven track records, Yes,

1794
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 2: for many years, morn to be like Nope, nope, look

1795
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:01,879
Speaker 2: at what I've done with all the gaffes and personnel decisions.

1796
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 4: I personally think it it came down to money.

1797
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 5: I think like, like, let's always trace it back to money,

1798
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:10,799
Speaker 5: because I think that's what this was. I think given

1799
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 5: his age, and for some of these teams, they were

1800
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:17,680
Speaker 5: thinking to themselves like, goodness, gracious, like we want to

1801
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 5: know that we're going to have a head coach for

1802
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 5: us basically as long as we need him for and

1803
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 5: I don't think.

1804
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:25,839
Speaker 4: You're awarded that with Belichick.

1805
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 5: And also the amount of money that he was demanding,

1806
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 5: a lot of these owners are looking at it saying, Okay,

1807
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 5: you know what do we get out of Bill three years,

1808
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:38,559
Speaker 5: maybe four years more, who knows how long he really

1809
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 5: wants coach, and then we're gonna pay him a boatload

1810
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:42,519
Speaker 5: of money and it's not even a guarantee it's gonna work,

1811
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 5: you know. So it's a tricky situation. But going back

1812
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 5: to Sirianni, look, this is a fiery guy. That's part

1813
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:50,920
Speaker 5: of the reason why I won the job in the

1814
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 5: first place. And I said that correctly won the job

1815
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 5: because you're in stiff competition when you are interviewing for

1816
01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:01,240
Speaker 5: one of these very coveted positions in the NFL, and

1817
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 5: they don't just give him to anybody, And so look,

1818
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:06,360
Speaker 5: there was a belief when they hired him, even though

1819
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:10,639
Speaker 5: he was really green. You remember that opening press conference.

1820
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:14,559
Speaker 5: It was a disaster. He was really green, but they

1821
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 5: saw something in him that was different from that separated

1822
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 5: him from the rest of the pack. And much like Roseman,

1823
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 5: it's a shorter menu, But Nick Siriani's got a proven

1824
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 5: track record too. What happened at the end of last

1825
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 5: season is either a bell weather for things to come,

1826
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 5: or it's an aberrant exception that we're going to move

1827
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:39,719
Speaker 5: on from. And it's going to seem like a distant

1828
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 5: memory if this team is eight and two heading into

1829
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 5: week eleven, right, but who knows?

1830
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:47,639
Speaker 4: We don't know yet.

1831
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:52,120
Speaker 5: And if he's lost Jalen Hurts, if he's lost his trust,

1832
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 5: then it's gonna be a problem for the Eagles. But

1833
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 5: my guess is he hasn't. Just knowing him again, I

1834
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 5: have a personal relationship with the guy. I don't think

1835
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:07,880
Speaker 5: he's the type of person who is even capable of

1836
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:11,160
Speaker 5: burning a bridge with a quarterback. I'm sure they butt

1837
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:13,640
Speaker 5: heads a lot, but I don't think. I don't think

1838
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:16,639
Speaker 5: he's the type of person who is gonna is going

1839
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 5: to sacrifice a relationship with the most important human being

1840
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,799
Speaker 5: in the entire organization out of pride.

1841
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 4: I just don't think he's that stupid.

1842
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, Rich, I think the way you framed it, with

1843
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:31,720
Speaker 3: the present in the future being kind of part of

1844
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 3: this equation makes a lot of sense to me. If

1845
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 3: you're hiring Bill Belichick, you want to win a Super

1846
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 3: Bowl this year and you have no idea what's gonna

1847
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 3: happen next year. When you're staying with Nick Sirianni, he's

1848
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 3: forty three years old, you have the chance to build

1849
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:51,880
Speaker 3: something great twenty years with the same coach. It doesn't

1850
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:55,599
Speaker 3: happen often in the NFL. Usually it's three or four

1851
01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:57,800
Speaker 3: years and we're on to the next And we're on

1852
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 3: year three now with Sirianni. And I think this was

1853
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:03,599
Speaker 3: a big corner turn for the Eagles as a franchise

1854
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:05,680
Speaker 3: because I trust Howie Roseman. I think he's one of

1855
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:09,599
Speaker 3: the best minds, you know, organizing teams that we have

1856
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 3: in the sport today. And I think he made a

1857
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 3: decision do I bail and cut bait now and go

1858
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 3: for the hot And I don't want to call Belichick

1859
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 3: a trend, but like everyone wanted to cash in on

1860
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick being available. Can we ring the cash register

1861
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 3: this year, get this guy in our system and win

1862
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl right now, and then in three years

1863
01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:32,559
Speaker 3: we're on to the next coach because Bill's not going

1864
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 3: to be around. Or do we want to build something

1865
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 3: slow where there are ups and downs? And let's be honest,

1866
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:44,879
Speaker 3: the Eagles have experienced both so far, ups and downs.

1867
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 3: Do we want to continue to put another brick on

1868
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:50,880
Speaker 3: the wall and keep putting bricks on the wall by

1869
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:54,600
Speaker 3: building around Nick and getting him a coordinator room that

1870
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:58,599
Speaker 3: has some maturity and some scheme to it with the

1871
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:00,599
Speaker 3: talent already in tow And do you want to keep

1872
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 3: building or do you want to rip it all down

1873
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 3: and start from scratch? And I think we have this

1874
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:10,479
Speaker 3: tendency you can blame Tinder and swipe society where we

1875
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 3: just want to go to the next, swipe, next, next,

1876
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 3: Whereas I do think there is value in going through

1877
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 3: some hard times with some coaches and some players and

1878
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 3: experiencing that trauma together. The hottest fire forges the strongest steal.

1879
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:27,439
Speaker 4: I think the.

1880
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 3: Eagles got stronger last year because of what they went

1881
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:34,240
Speaker 3: through and continuing to keep that nucleus in place the

1882
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 3: next year instead of just bailing and jumping ship and

1883
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 3: going to Bill Belichick is gonna be there for two

1884
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 3: years and then he's.

1885
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:40,600
Speaker 4: Gone to me.

1886
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:44,960
Speaker 3: I value that patience that Howie Roseman is having in

1887
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:47,679
Speaker 3: this situation, and I think it will pay off because

1888
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 3: the talent is there. It is there in Philly. Jalen

1889
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 3: Hurts is an MVP caliber quarterback. He just needs the

1890
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:56,840
Speaker 3: right people pushing the buttons behind him. And I think

1891
01:34:56,880 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 3: those the ready player one, you know, controller got put

1892
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 3: into someone's smart hands this year with Kellen Moore because

1893
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 3: the brains left town when Stikeing and Gannon bolted. I mean,

1894
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 3: those were the smartest guys in that room, the most

1895
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:14,120
Speaker 3: mature guys in that room, and now they have to recalibrate.

1896
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:16,439
Speaker 3: But if you throw out Sirianni, then you gotta start

1897
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:18,600
Speaker 3: a completely from scratch, and it just I felt like

1898
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:20,679
Speaker 3: it would have been the wrong decision. I applaught Alie

1899
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 3: Rosen for sticking with Sirianni this year, and I do

1900
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:25,679
Speaker 3: think that patience will be rewarded.

1901
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,719
Speaker 2: I don't at all, couldn't disagree more. He's a clown.

1902
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 2: It was a bad move, Like, here's the thing, Sirianni, Like,

1903
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 2: this is the introductory press conference that you're talking about. Rich,

1904
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 2: I'm not keeping this guy with all that. That is

1905
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:41,720
Speaker 2: one of the most talented rosters in the league to

1906
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 2: lose six of seven, to get punked by Tampa the

1907
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:46,760
Speaker 2: way they did, Like, you should be more than the

1908
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:50,400
Speaker 2: strength of your coordinators. I totally agree that when the

1909
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 2: coordinators left town, when you saw Stike and get the

1910
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:57,519
Speaker 2: head job and Indie and Right, and all of a sudden,

1911
01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:00,680
Speaker 2: you're like, wow, Sirianni looks completely different. Yeah, because he's

1912
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:02,800
Speaker 2: not good. He's not good at what he does, and

1913
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:04,679
Speaker 2: he sounded like it when he first got the job.

1914
01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 6: The first part of being smart is knowing what to do.

1915
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 6: We're gonna we're gonna know. We're gonna have systems in

1916
01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 6: place that are easier to learn, all right, complicated to

1917
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 6: the defense or offense that they're going against, or the

1918
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 6: special teams group they're going against, but easy for us

1919
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:23,600
Speaker 6: to learn. Because when we can put that because we

1920
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:25,960
Speaker 6: when we can learn our system and we can get

1921
01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 6: good at our system, then our talent can take over.

1922
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 6: Less thinking equals talent takeover. But we need to have

1923
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 6: systems in place, and we will have systems in place

1924
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:35,400
Speaker 6: to do so.

1925
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:42,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, Nick, but listen, it was after

1926
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 2: that year.

1927
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:48,679
Speaker 5: I understand that was terrible delivery, and I I did

1928
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 5: agree at the time. I'm like, man, I mean, look,

1929
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:54,799
Speaker 5: Nick Siriana, he's Nick Sirian. He's one of my guys.

1930
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:58,000
Speaker 5: I like him, I really do. I think I think

1931
01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:02,720
Speaker 5: he's He's What happened in that press conference is what

1932
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 5: happens to a lot of people when experience and and

1933
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 5: talent meets opportunity, but you don't have all of the

1934
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:15,920
Speaker 5: finer points hammered down perfectly.

1935
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:17,000
Speaker 4: Yet he was nervous.

1936
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 1: Problem. Yeah he was your press conference right, is downgrade.

1937
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:22,559
Speaker 3: The the UCLA guy because of that too?

1938
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 4: Are we gonna like? It's like the garage band going

1939
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 4: big time? You know what I mean.

1940
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,680
Speaker 5: It's like when they're playing shows in front of their

1941
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:31,879
Speaker 5: friends at bars.

1942
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, that's that's one thing.

1943
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:36,559
Speaker 5: But then all of a sudden, when you're out on stage,

1944
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:39,799
Speaker 5: you know, you have a headliner like the Foo Fighters,

1945
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 5: you're opening for in front of a stadium crowd, all

1946
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 5: of a sudden, your your knees start shaking, your all

1947
01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:49,639
Speaker 5: the confidence in the bravado that got you to that moment,

1948
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:53,720
Speaker 5: it gets swallowed up by your nerves, and so I

1949
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:56,200
Speaker 5: think I think that was a poor representation of who

1950
01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:58,519
Speaker 5: he ended up becoming as a head coach.

1951
01:37:58,840 --> 01:37:59,840
Speaker 4: And I also think that.

1952
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 5: If you're gonna judge him by those six games only

1953
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 5: at the end of the last season, last season where

1954
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:09,120
Speaker 5: they slid a little bit, I think that's that's foolish too.

1955
01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:10,400
Speaker 4: There is I don't. I don't.

1956
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 5: There's a there's a white swath of really good experiences

1957
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:17,599
Speaker 5: in the middle that you should evaluate and say, Okay,

1958
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 5: so how do we get back to that?

1959
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:21,320
Speaker 4: Because that was the majority of it was really good

1960
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 4: with Sirianni.

1961
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 2: Look, it's a blend. It's not just hey, they faded,

1962
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:28,640
Speaker 2: get rid of him. It's hey, they faded, get rid

1963
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 2: of him, because you have a chance to upgrade with

1964
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:34,720
Speaker 2: arguably the greatest head coach to ever do it right. Like,

1965
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:37,559
Speaker 2: that's the thing you're mentioning bands. If you have your

1966
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 2: band and it's you know, fledgling, and your singer is okay,

1967
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 2: and you've got a chance to get James Hetfield from Metallica,

1968
01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 2: he's like, I want a new project over here, you'd

1969
01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:49,599
Speaker 2: be out of your mind not to do that.

1970
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 5: I get it, but still like that's a great example

1971
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 5: because James Hetfield too is look in terms of his

1972
01:38:56,800 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 5: musical career, I wouldn't buy too many green because he's

1973
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:04,040
Speaker 5: not gonna get to see them ripens. It's like he's

1974
01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:07,160
Speaker 5: he's got a lot more yesterday's log than tomorrow's. So

1975
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 5: you could either hire your Metallica's front man to be

1976
01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:12,960
Speaker 5: your front man for what the next two or three years?

1977
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 3: For one show? Yeah, for you get a whole tour

1978
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:16,800
Speaker 3: with Sirianni.

1979
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:20,280
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I'll take to one show better.

1980
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:20,639
Speaker 4: Than the tour.

1981
01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 3: But I think the question is I think the pushback

1982
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 3: I have on the take that Belichick in, He's like,

1983
01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 3: what if it doesn't work out, then you're right back

1984
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 3: where you started the next year and you are down.

1985
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 3: Like to me, I'm I like building. I think we're

1986
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:40,920
Speaker 3: too quick to move on from these coaches. I know

1987
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 3: the NFL stands for not for long, but sometimes it's crazy.

1988
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:45,240
Speaker 3: We'll get into this. We're gonna have a lot more

1989
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:48,680
Speaker 3: discussions on Sirianni. I'm fascinated how it starts and how

1990
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:51,719
Speaker 3: the defense kind of molds around Fangio. But I'm telling

1991
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 3: you we might look back in six months and be like, wow,

1992
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 3: can you believe they almost fired Nick Sirianni right before

1993
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 3: the Eagles won the Super Bowl.

1994
01:39:57,200 --> 01:40:00,719
Speaker 2: I have no problem with huge swings. Take huge swings.

1995
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:03,639
Speaker 2: If you huge, If you swing huge and and don't

1996
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 2: hit it going with Bill Belichick, I can live with it.

1997
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 4: But why do I.

1998
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 1: Get you're trying to sacrifice this.

1999
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:14,880
Speaker 2: Sounds that's two week it's a it's it's the safe

2000
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:17,120
Speaker 2: move to a fault to run it back. With all

2001
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:19,439
Speaker 2: this being said, they'll probably get back on the tracks.

2002
01:40:19,439 --> 01:40:21,200
Speaker 2: He'll be Coach of the Year. I'll look like a moron,

2003
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 2: you know, the.

2004
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:23,559
Speaker 3: Way it'll all work out.

2005
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:27,120
Speaker 2: Definitely, he's not winning Coach the All right, Uh, We've

2006
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:29,759
Speaker 2: got rich Ron Berger, Penn State All American, Chared Smith

2007
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:33,400
Speaker 2: FSR betting analyst, I'm Brian No coming up next. There's lying,

2008
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:37,599
Speaker 2: and then there's what this guy is doing. It's Fox

2009
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:41,000
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2010
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2011
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Speaker 1: Okay, So clock integrity, it's a big.

2027
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:39,800
Speaker 4: Thing in radio. We're terrible at it.

2028
01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:43,880
Speaker 3: I'll do yeah, well, I'll take the accountability for this one, guys,

2029
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:44,640
Speaker 3: I apologize.

2030
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 1: We're three gas.

2031
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:48,280
Speaker 2: Bags over here, you know therevery now. And then clock

2032
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 2: integrity leaves a little bit to be desired. So we

2033
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 2: get right back on track over here as we throw

2034
01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:57,200
Speaker 2: it to Isaac Low and Crown first, and then we

2035
01:41:57,240 --> 01:42:00,759
Speaker 2: will get to a dirty scoundrel liar in a second.

2036
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 1: The first opposite in Isaac lowand.

2037
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Speaker 7: I appreciate you. Appreciate you qualifying that.

2038
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:11,040
Speaker 10: We are half an hour into the women's soccer gold

2039
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:15,559
Speaker 10: medal match at the Olympics between Team USA and Brazil,

2040
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:18,479
Speaker 10: and it has been a hair raiser so far, with

2041
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:22,679
Speaker 10: great chances at both ends. Brazil actually scored a goal

2042
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:26,000
Speaker 10: in the sixteenth minute, but it was wiped out because

2043
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:30,680
Speaker 10: of offside, so again Team USA and Brazil scoreless in

2044
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 10: the thirtieth minute in the gold medal match in women's soccer.

2045
01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:37,360
Speaker 10: Coming up at three thirty Eastern time today, it's the

2046
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 10: gold medal game in men's basketball between Team USA and France.

2047
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:45,040
Speaker 10: In NFL preseason action on Friday night, the Miami Dolphins

2048
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:48,360
Speaker 10: defeated the Atlanta Falcons twenty to thirteen. Atlanta rookie quarterback

2049
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 10: Michael Petticks junior completed nine of sixteen for one hundred

2050
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:54,599
Speaker 10: and four yards. The Houston Texans won at Pittsburgh twenty

2051
01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 10: to twelve. Russell Wilson of the Steelers did not play

2052
01:42:57,120 --> 01:43:00,120
Speaker 10: because of a calf injury. Justin Fields, however, complete did

2053
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:04,000
Speaker 10: five six passes for sixty seven yards and Jake Elliott's

2054
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:06,400
Speaker 10: forty nine yard field goal at the gun gave the

2055
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:10,920
Speaker 10: Philadelphia Eagles sixteen to thirteen victory at Baltimore in Major

2056
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:14,080
Speaker 10: League Baseball On Friday Night Show, Hey O'tani hit his

2057
01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:16,840
Speaker 10: thirty fifth home run in the Dodgers nine to five

2058
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 10: win over the Pirates and the Diamondbacks best of the

2059
01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:23,679
Speaker 10: Phillies three to two. Adrian del Castillo the game winning

2060
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:26,760
Speaker 10: home run to win it in the second game of

2061
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:28,120
Speaker 10: his major league career.

2062
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 7: Fellas back to you, thank.

2063
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:30,439
Speaker 4: You, I Lo.

2064
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio.

2065
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:37,599
Speaker 1: So our guy, Jim Harbaugh, oh boy hoof.

2066
01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 2: So he has accepted this is great timing, accepted an

2067
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:46,719
Speaker 2: invitation to be an honorary captain for Michigan's home opener

2068
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 2: against Fresno State.

2069
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 3: That's at the end of this month.

2070
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:52,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's a bed a few things that have

2071
01:43:52,920 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 2: transpired over the last week with Jim Harbaugh here. So

2072
01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:03,520
Speaker 2: he was hit with the show penalty because of improper

2073
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:08,080
Speaker 2: recruiting during COVID. So basically he's not going to be

2074
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:10,599
Speaker 2: a college football head coach for the next four years.

2075
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:14,519
Speaker 2: So weird penalty because he probably wasn't going to be anyway. Right,

2076
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:17,640
Speaker 2: he's the Chargers head coach, right now so weird punishment.

2077
01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:23,080
Speaker 2: But also what happened was that you had seven members

2078
01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty three Michigan football program be accused

2079
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 2: by the violating NCAA rules, Like with the sign stealing

2080
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:36,479
Speaker 2: situation over there. Sharon Moore, the new head coach, he's

2081
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:40,639
Speaker 2: one of these seven members. And Sharon Moore he was

2082
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:47,000
Speaker 2: deleting reportedly fifty two text messages with Connor Stallions, who

2083
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:49,160
Speaker 2: was the sign stealing.

2084
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:49,880
Speaker 1: Guru over there.

2085
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 2: So with all that the sign stealing situation in the backdrop,

2086
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:58,759
Speaker 2: listen to what Jim Harbaugh had to say. Now there's

2087
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:04,240
Speaker 2: lying and then there's this, which is another realm of

2088
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 2: lying altogether.

2089
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:11,000
Speaker 11: Never lie, never cheat, never steal. I was raised with

2090
01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:14,519
Speaker 11: that lesson. I have raised my family on that lesson.

2091
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:18,160
Speaker 11: I have preached that lesson to the teams that I've coached.

2092
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:19,559
Speaker 1: No one's perfect.

2093
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:25,599
Speaker 11: If you stumble, you apologize, and you make it right. Today,

2094
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 11: I do not apologize. I did not participate, was not

2095
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:35,040
Speaker 11: aware nor complicit in those set allegations. So for me,

2096
01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:38,960
Speaker 11: it's back to work and attacking with an enthusiasm unknown

2097
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:39,519
Speaker 11: to mankind.

2098
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:44,160
Speaker 2: I mean, wow, that is okay. They're like there are

2099
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:47,679
Speaker 2: bold faced lies and like to preface all of this

2100
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 2: with these are core standards of mine.

2101
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 3: I was raised this way.

2102
01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:59,439
Speaker 2: I impart this wisdom upon all my players and then proceeds.

2103
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:00,000
Speaker 3: To lie through his teeth.

2104
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:04,040
Speaker 1: What a clown. And I love Jim Harbaugh, but this

2105
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:05,559
Speaker 1: is you can't defend this.

2106
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:09,240
Speaker 2: Like the whole staff knows all about the sign stealing

2107
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:11,040
Speaker 2: situation and he doesn't.

2108
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:13,320
Speaker 1: It isn't even believable.

2109
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:14,679
Speaker 4: And yet he's.

2110
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 3: Sitting there saying I was raised this one.

2111
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 2: Now he's throwing his parents under the bus as he's

2112
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:20,599
Speaker 2: lying through his teeth.

2113
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:22,200
Speaker 4: What is he doing here?

2114
01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:28,040
Speaker 5: He's he's doing exactly what he should be doing here.

2115
01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:31,040
Speaker 5: Here's here's the crazy thing about this. And Brian, you

2116
01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:33,559
Speaker 5: know this. And I'm not being jaded. This is a

2117
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:36,200
Speaker 5: part of our reality. And I'm not even just talking

2118
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:41,240
Speaker 5: about football as Americans as human beings. Look, Jim Harbaugh

2119
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 5: is a political animal. We know politics. It's a liar's game. Yeah,

2120
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:50,959
Speaker 5: all right, so there's no there's no secrets here. Michigan

2121
01:46:51,040 --> 01:46:54,280
Speaker 5: broke rules. Not only did they break the rules that

2122
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:57,600
Speaker 5: he's guilty of that he was penalized for, but he

2123
01:46:57,680 --> 01:46:59,599
Speaker 5: also broke other rules.

2124
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:01,400
Speaker 4: And and you just alluded to it.

2125
01:47:01,479 --> 01:47:04,560
Speaker 5: I mean, more and more information about the Connors stallions

2126
01:47:04,600 --> 01:47:07,160
Speaker 5: and the you know, the sign stealing and all that

2127
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 5: is going to be tumbling out in the coming months.

2128
01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 5: And I'm sure the NCAA is going to have to

2129
01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:16,679
Speaker 5: levy more penalties toward the Michigan Wolverine's football program over

2130
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:21,160
Speaker 5: that scandal. And Jim Harbaugh is going to skate. He's

2131
01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:24,920
Speaker 5: going to skate. And here's the reality of the situation.

2132
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 5: You cannot hate Jim Harbaugh for doing exactly what Jim

2133
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 5: Harbaugh should do in this situation because it's a liar's game.

2134
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:39,160
Speaker 5: Don't hate the player, hate the game. For every political

2135
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:44,680
Speaker 5: candidate that you hate vehement leap post, just understand the

2136
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 5: political candidate that you're rooting for is the same.

2137
01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:51,519
Speaker 4: They're all cut from the same cloth. And that is

2138
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 4: the same with coaches. It's a political game.

2139
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:59,960
Speaker 5: There are no friends, there's no close friends in this game.

2140
01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:03,400
Speaker 5: I mean, whoever he upsets on his way out the

2141
01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:06,160
Speaker 5: door in Michigan, screw him. I'm on to bigger, better

2142
01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:07,240
Speaker 5: things with the Chargers.

2143
01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 4: Now.

2144
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:10,559
Speaker 5: That's the way this game works, and it's the way

2145
01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:14,920
Speaker 5: this game has worked forever. You cannot be a politician

2146
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:17,800
Speaker 5: or a head coach in the NFL or at the

2147
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:21,799
Speaker 5: college level, the major college level in this country, without

2148
01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:26,640
Speaker 5: hurting people's feelings and railroading people on the way to

2149
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:27,679
Speaker 5: your own success.

2150
01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 4: He is doing exactly what he should be.

2151
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:33,720
Speaker 5: Doing because it's what's best for Jim Harbaugh and the

2152
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:36,800
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four Chargers, and that's the only thing that

2153
01:48:36,920 --> 01:48:37,680
Speaker 5: he's concerned with.

2154
01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:42,240
Speaker 4: So I get it. It's distasteful, it's it's absolutely not

2155
01:48:42,479 --> 01:48:45,760
Speaker 4: the truth, but it's exactly what he should be doing.

2156
01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:49,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the reasons that I can't stand politics

2157
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 3: is because of what rich is talking about. And it's

2158
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:54,720
Speaker 3: funny because there was a time in my career where

2159
01:48:54,760 --> 01:48:58,120
Speaker 3: I was asked to cover politics every day in New

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Speaker 3: York City.

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Speaker 1: I remember interviewing Mayor build a Blasio on.

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Speaker 3: The subway a few years ago, like that was my job,

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01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:08,320
Speaker 3: and I remember thinking to myself, you're a sports guy, Jared,

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01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:10,519
Speaker 3: what the heck are you doing? And then I got

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Speaker 3: back into sports in the betting side and now doing

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Speaker 3: this show, and I remember calling back on a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of those political stories that I covered, thinking to.

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Speaker 3: Myself, Wow, this really does kind of translate over to

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01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:26,240
Speaker 3: some of the things we hear these coaches, mostly the owners.

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Speaker 3: When the owners talk and the GMS, that's when I

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01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:34,679
Speaker 3: really go into politics mode. But I think coach Harbaugh

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01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 3: is kind of in that vein. I have no idea

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01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:41,040
Speaker 3: how this situation is going to play out for the

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Speaker 3: NCAA and Taron Moore and the rest of the Michigan

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01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 3: culprits here, but yeah, I agree with Rich.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is like I think Coach.

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Speaker 3: Harbaugh, there is a certain level of yeah, I can't

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01:49:56,040 --> 01:49:58,680
Speaker 3: do any more damage, but I can certainly make it

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Speaker 3: seem like I'm innocent.

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Speaker 1: And if he wants to live in that world, then

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Speaker 1: that's the.

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Speaker 3: World he's gonna live in. I think the reality that

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Speaker 3: we live in, we all know what happened. Like it

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01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:10,840
Speaker 3: was a very It's not really a very convoluted story

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Speaker 3: like it happens a lot, I think in college football.

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Speaker 1: It's just Michigan got caught.

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Speaker 3: But I don't I'm not surprised at all. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is this is a coach that told us JJ

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01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:22,000
Speaker 3: McCarthy was going to be the number one pick in

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Speaker 3: the draft a few months ago. I remember he went

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01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:26,960
Speaker 3: on Colin Coward Show and said that, So I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't have any surprises anymore with what these coaches

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01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:33,120
Speaker 3: will say to try to make themselves, you know, exonerate

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Speaker 3: themselves from whatever situation they're in.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing, man, we get it to

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01:50:37,880 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 2: what Rich is saying. There's a lot a lot of

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Speaker 2: lying that takes place within sports. You know, we were

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01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:48,640
Speaker 2: talking about Bryce Young earlier, the Panthers head coach. If

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Speaker 2: you interviewed Dave Canal as the head coach and said, hey, Dave,

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01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:54,120
Speaker 2: what's Bryce looking like? You know, what do you think

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01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:55,760
Speaker 2: of him as a quarterback? He's not going to turn

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01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:58,000
Speaker 2: and look at you and say, man, I think he sucks.

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01:50:58,720 --> 01:51:00,720
Speaker 2: If that's what he truly believed, he's gonna say the

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01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:04,439
Speaker 2: direct opposite. Like, there's lying that takes place on a

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01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:09,200
Speaker 2: daily basis within sports. But the thing with Harbaugh that

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01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:13,240
Speaker 2: makes this so different in my mind is he's not

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01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:19,080
Speaker 2: just lying. He like warmed you up with this whole

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01:51:19,280 --> 01:51:23,000
Speaker 2: spiel about this is what I was raised on over.

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Speaker 4: Really, dude, if.

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01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:27,519
Speaker 2: He just came right out and said, oh I don't

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01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:30,640
Speaker 2: know anything about that's one thing. Okay, that's still a

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01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:34,200
Speaker 2: bold faced lie, because clearly he did. But at least

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01:51:34,200 --> 01:51:36,760
Speaker 2: he didn't warm us up like the beginning of this

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01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:39,320
Speaker 2: rich in particular, based on what you had to say.

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01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:43,240
Speaker 2: This is so much different than a normal, ordinary sports lie.

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01:51:43,479 --> 01:51:46,879
Speaker 2: When he says this to preface his comments, yeah.

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01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:52,320
Speaker 11: Never lie, never cheat, never steal. I was raised with

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01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:55,759
Speaker 11: that lesson. I've raised my family that lesson.

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01:51:56,040 --> 01:51:57,479
Speaker 3: He's raised his family.

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01:51:58,160 --> 01:52:02,519
Speaker 2: He's basically raised play in a sports kind of way, right,

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01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:06,920
Speaker 2: and then he lies after really different.

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01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:10,960
Speaker 4: He told he told no lie there. It's true that

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01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:11,760
Speaker 4: he could have.

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01:52:12,160 --> 01:52:15,800
Speaker 5: What's crazy about what he just said, it's crazy like

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01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:18,000
Speaker 5: a fox because he didn't lie.

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01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:21,200
Speaker 1: No, he didn't lie about those commons. Well, actually he

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01:52:21,280 --> 01:52:23,479
Speaker 1: did because he is lying, you know, with what he

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01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:24,280
Speaker 1: said later in the.

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01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:27,360
Speaker 5: In the Harba, in the Harball household, maybe he was

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01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 5: raised with those values, and then in his household, maybe

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01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 5: he's raised his own family with those values. However, when

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01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 5: he puts when when he puts on his coaching khakis

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01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:40,800
Speaker 5: and he ties his white sneakers, and he and he

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01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:43,559
Speaker 5: puts on his little his his glasses in his cap,

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Speaker 5: and he goes out there and he hits the sideline.

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Speaker 4: He can leave all those values at the front door.

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01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:50,320
Speaker 4: He could stick them in the mailbox for when he

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01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:51,120
Speaker 4: gets back home.

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01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:52,479
Speaker 1: Because that's exactly what he's done.

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Speaker 5: And see, but that's my point is this is such

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01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:59,120
Speaker 5: a cleverly crafted no statement, No, it's not.

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01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:00,599
Speaker 3: It's the opposite that of clever.

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01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:02,880
Speaker 4: Oh No, I think he's a genius. I think the

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01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:05,960
Speaker 4: guy is going to walk, he's gonna skate, and by

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01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:07,360
Speaker 4: the way, he.

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01:53:07,439 --> 01:53:09,680
Speaker 1: Will because he's in the NFL. There's nothing they can

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01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:10,280
Speaker 1: do to him.

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01:53:10,479 --> 01:53:11,400
Speaker 4: And that's my point.

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01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:14,080
Speaker 3: Like and by the way, basically moved to Granada like

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Speaker 3: where they can't extra.

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Speaker 5: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's yeah, he's he's gonna

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01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:21,080
Speaker 5: he's gonna have like a fat pad on an island

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01:53:21,160 --> 01:53:23,120
Speaker 5: with a palm tree and he's defected.

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01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:25,519
Speaker 3: They can't touch him anymore.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's amazing. It's amazing how how you can

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Speaker 5: you can control the narrative when you have power. And

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01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:38,599
Speaker 5: Jim Harbaugh right now can control this narrative. Now nobody

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01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:41,760
Speaker 5: believes him, not right now. But all of that is

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01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:45,800
Speaker 5: in writing. And we could be as snarky and as

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01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:49,160
Speaker 5: you know, we could try to pull the curtains open

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01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:52,720
Speaker 5: and shine daylight on the truth. But I promise you

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01:53:53,200 --> 01:53:57,240
Speaker 5: victors get to write history So if Jim Harbaugh moves

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01:53:57,280 --> 01:54:01,480
Speaker 5: on from the disaster, he's like for the Michigan Wolverines,

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01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 5: which it may be a disaster because again I don't

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01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:07,599
Speaker 5: think the NCAA has done levying punishment against the coaches

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01:54:07,600 --> 01:54:10,760
Speaker 5: who have been left behind or the program altogether. Well,

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01:54:10,840 --> 01:54:13,360
Speaker 5: we'll see what happens in the future. But then he

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01:54:13,479 --> 01:54:15,599
Speaker 5: moves on to the Chargers, and if he has any

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01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:18,960
Speaker 5: monicum of success with the Chargers this season and into

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01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:22,200
Speaker 5: the future, dare I say if he wins the Chargers

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01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:26,240
Speaker 5: their first Super Bowl, nobody is not going this is

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01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:29,080
Speaker 5: going to be a footnote in the Jim Harbaugh story.

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01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:31,880
Speaker 4: People are going to be lauding his coaching.

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01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 1: Career if they win the division this year.

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01:54:34,680 --> 01:54:37,760
Speaker 3: If they win the Division this year, they should celebrate

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01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:38,880
Speaker 3: it like it's the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I've lost so much respect for that guy based on

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01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:46,080
Speaker 2: this whole I honestly think it's gonna go really poorly

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01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:46,760
Speaker 2: for the Chargers.

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01:54:47,240 --> 01:54:49,120
Speaker 7: Well yeah, but I really do.

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01:54:50,480 --> 01:54:53,680
Speaker 2: I was raised on these principles. If you stumble, you

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01:54:53,960 --> 01:54:56,960
Speaker 2: you admit it and move on. I don't think being said,

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01:54:57,080 --> 01:54:58,520
Speaker 2: I do not apologize.

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01:54:58,640 --> 01:54:59,440
Speaker 4: I know nothing.

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01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:02,880
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, get out of here. He only follow

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01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:05,200
Speaker 3: up I have here it gets to where we are

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01:55:05,320 --> 01:55:08,800
Speaker 3: now present day. Rich If that was your head coach

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01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:11,240
Speaker 3: in the NFL and he was talking about that, would.

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01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:11,480
Speaker 4: He lose you.

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01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:14,839
Speaker 1: Care in the NFL Michigan.

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01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:17,600
Speaker 4: No, he wouldn't lose me at all. I'd be like,

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01:55:17,640 --> 01:55:20,000
Speaker 4: all right, all right, Jim, let's go win some football games.

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01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:21,480
Speaker 4: I don't care what you did in college. I just

2294
01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:23,360
Speaker 4: care what No, no, no, I'm talking about.

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01:55:23,160 --> 01:55:26,560
Speaker 3: His demeanor and kind of his like shtick, like everything's

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01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:30,080
Speaker 3: like team politics, this and that. Like I want more

2297
01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:34,400
Speaker 3: of like a pragmatic professional who isn't like gimmicky like

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01:55:34,520 --> 01:55:36,360
Speaker 3: Jim is, Like that was a gimmick speech that he

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01:55:36,440 --> 01:55:37,320
Speaker 3: gave that we just played.

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01:55:37,800 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 2: All right, We've got rich Oronberger Penn State all American

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01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:45,560
Speaker 2: gas bag. We've got Jared Smith FSR, vetting analyst gas bag.

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01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:47,800
Speaker 1: I'm Brian, no gas bag.

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01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:51,440
Speaker 2: That's why clock integrity has been blown to smithereens this summe.

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01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:52,680
Speaker 3: That's all right, we regroup.

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01:55:53,160 --> 01:55:57,080
Speaker 2: We've got some rapid fire picks for you, three apiece.

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Speaker 1: That's on the way.

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Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Shortly after the show, our podcast will.

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Speaker 2: get your podcasts, and you'll see the show posted right

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Speaker 2: after we get off the air. Props to the crew,

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01:56:21,680 --> 01:56:26,200
Speaker 2: our trusted producer Bo Benson, Technical producer extraordinary. Chris Burfett

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01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:30,960
Speaker 2: on the updates, crushing it and crushing life, Mister Isaac Lowen,

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Speaker 2: cron Up on Game, Top of the Hour, LaVar Arrington, TJ. Hushman,

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Speaker 2: Zada Plexico, Buris. They've got you covered in less than

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Speaker 2: ten minutes. We got some picks to make.

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01:56:41,280 --> 01:56:41,720
Speaker 4: Let's do it.

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01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:49,520
Speaker 2: Rapid fire, all right, Jared, I've thrown off off the

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01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:50,440
Speaker 2: your feet, nurfy.

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Speaker 1: What are we gonna hear it? Rapid fire here today?

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01:56:52,920 --> 01:56:53,080
Speaker 2: Huh?

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01:56:53,160 --> 01:56:56,800
Speaker 4: Preseason NFL baby, Yo, We're.

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01:56:56,760 --> 01:56:58,920
Speaker 3: Going all in with pre season all right. Here's what

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01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:02,760
Speaker 3: you focus on in the pre season. Quarterbacks and coaches,

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01:57:03,200 --> 01:57:06,400
Speaker 3: and I like to fade the good teams, right like

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01:57:06,520 --> 01:57:08,200
Speaker 3: the Eagles and the Chiefs and the teams that are

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01:57:08,240 --> 01:57:09,160
Speaker 3: supposed to be really good.

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01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:11,160
Speaker 1: They don't have a whole lot to prove in the preseason.

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01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:13,120
Speaker 3: So we're gonna attack some of the other teams, like,

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01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:15,600
Speaker 3: I don't know, let's say the Washington Commanders facing the

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01:57:15,640 --> 01:57:19,720
Speaker 3: Jets in about ten minutes, Jake Daniels playing, Marcus Mariota playing,

2337
01:57:20,240 --> 01:57:22,280
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers not playing. It's gonna be a lot of

2338
01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:24,920
Speaker 3: Tarrod Taylor and probably a lot of Andrew Peasley and

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01:57:25,000 --> 01:57:26,720
Speaker 3: maybe Adrian Martinez.

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01:57:26,280 --> 01:57:26,640
Speaker 1: For the Jets.

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01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna lay three points with the Commanders here.

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01:57:29,040 --> 01:57:30,440
Speaker 4: Also, how about Tennessee.

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01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:33,120
Speaker 3: When are you ever gonna see the Tennessee Titans as

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01:57:33,120 --> 01:57:36,680
Speaker 3: a six point favored against the Niners only in preseason?

2345
01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:39,440
Speaker 3: You bet we're laying it with Tennessee today. The Niners

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01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:42,040
Speaker 3: have nothing to prove in this game. They're gonna rest

2347
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:45,720
Speaker 3: their starters very quickly. Whereas Tennessee rookie head coach obviously

2348
01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:47,720
Speaker 3: second year quarterback Will Loves I think are gonna push

2349
01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:50,520
Speaker 3: the tempo a little bit and let's see. Oh yeah,

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01:57:50,520 --> 01:57:52,560
Speaker 3: I'm also gonna take the Jaguars today. Why because the

2351
01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:55,600
Speaker 3: Chiefs have absolutely nothing to prove in the preseason, and

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01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:58,120
Speaker 3: you know this game means a lot to Jacksonville. They

2353
01:57:58,120 --> 01:57:59,840
Speaker 3: got bouncing the playoffs a couple of years ago by

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01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:02,200
Speaker 3: the Chief, and I think you're gonna see a very

2355
01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:05,400
Speaker 3: inspired effort. Trevor Lawrence will play today solo Patrick Mahomes,

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01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:10,000
Speaker 3: but I will take the Jags, I will take the Commanders,

2357
01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:12,600
Speaker 3: and I will take the Titans against the spread today.

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01:58:12,400 --> 01:58:12,960
Speaker 4: In the preseason.

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01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:15,800
Speaker 5: Okay, I told you earlier I have a bad feeling

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01:58:15,840 --> 01:58:18,720
Speaker 5: about today. This doesn't mean that the US is gonna lose,

2361
01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:21,200
Speaker 5: but this could be a tight one between Team USA

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01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:24,800
Speaker 5: and Team France in the gold medal round in Paris

2363
01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:26,080
Speaker 5: for men's hoops.

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01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:31,320
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna take the points plus sixteen and a half.

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01:58:31,800 --> 01:58:35,800
Speaker 5: I'm taking France also, first half plus eight and a

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01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:39,520
Speaker 5: half taking Team France and then Victor Webbin Yama. This

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01:58:39,640 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 5: actually sounds odd. It's not counterintuitive, though. I'm taking the

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01:58:43,080 --> 01:58:44,760
Speaker 5: under ten and a half rebounds.

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01:58:45,080 --> 01:58:46,120
Speaker 4: Here's the reason why.

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01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:49,320
Speaker 5: Because I think that it's gonna take perimeter shooting for

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01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:51,720
Speaker 5: Team USA to beat France. I think a lot of

2372
01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:54,600
Speaker 5: rebounds are gonna clang off the rim, go over his

2373
01:58:54,840 --> 01:58:57,440
Speaker 5: rebounding range, and end up in the hands of a

2374
01:58:57,520 --> 01:58:58,280
Speaker 5: lot of the guards.

2375
01:58:58,600 --> 01:58:59,440
Speaker 4: For Team France.

2376
01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:02,080
Speaker 5: So again, France plus sixteen and a half for the

2377
01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:04,920
Speaker 5: game overall, plus eight and a half for the first

2378
01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:07,080
Speaker 5: half and ten and a half rebounds.

2379
01:59:07,120 --> 01:59:08,640
Speaker 4: I'm taking the under for Wemby.

2380
01:59:09,520 --> 01:59:12,000
Speaker 2: Okay, Rich, I'm looking at your San Diego Padres.

2381
01:59:12,040 --> 01:59:14,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with hoops. Let's start with baseball.

2382
01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:21,000
Speaker 2: The Padres over thirteen and a half total bases today, huh.

2383
01:59:21,640 --> 01:59:26,160
Speaker 2: I like their offense against Roderi Munos of the Marlins,

2384
01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:29,560
Speaker 2: so give me they have the Padres at least fourteen

2385
01:59:29,800 --> 01:59:33,560
Speaker 2: total bases. Interesting prop bet right there, offered on bet MGM.

2386
01:59:34,120 --> 01:59:37,320
Speaker 2: I've got my eye on us hoops. Give me Joe

2387
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:39,880
Speaker 2: l Embiat over thirteen and a half. The French crowd

2388
01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:43,120
Speaker 2: has been all over him. He's gonna give him the business.

2389
01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:46,680
Speaker 2: He cooked Wemby for seventy points, the only matchup they've

2390
01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:49,880
Speaker 2: had in their NBA careers. So I'm going with mbat

2391
01:59:49,880 --> 01:59:52,120
Speaker 2: at least fourteen points today. Give me the under on

2392
01:59:52,240 --> 01:59:55,960
Speaker 2: Brianna Stewart three and a half assists. She's gonna be

2393
01:59:56,040 --> 02:00:00,200
Speaker 2: in score mode mindset, So I'm gonna take the under

2394
02:00:00,240 --> 02:00:04,240
Speaker 2: on assist for Stewie. Right there, everybody, enjoy the action today,

2395
02:00:04,280 --> 02:00:05,000
Speaker 2: we'll catch you later.