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Speaker 2: Donks look at this now, tip to tip. This is

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Speaker 2: our life, this is our passion. That's the spirit we

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Speaker 2: bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This is Morning Combat. Hey, we've been gone a while.

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Speaker 1: What's up there, Bcie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like a long time coming to get

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Speaker 2: back in front of this damn microphone?

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Speaker 1: How are you? A? Morning Combat is back on this

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Speaker 1: thirty first of May twenty twenty four Life of New

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Speaker 2: Where a stone's throw away from the rock over there

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Speaker 2: in Newark, New Jersey, the site of Saturday's UFC three

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Speaker 2: to zero two, which will be a very big topic

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Speaker 2: in today's episode. But great to be back with you,

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Speaker 2: and most importantly great to be welcoming in a little

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Speaker 2: bit later today. Maybe the most excited we've been for

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Speaker 2: a guest in Morning Combat history. Luke Thomas and the

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Speaker 2: first chance you will to finally do recreational white lightning

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Speaker 2: live on the broadcast.

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Speaker 1: People have been asking would you do drugs with Craig Jones,

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Speaker 1: And the answer is yes, yes I would.

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Speaker 2: Would you risk your the future of your good name

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Speaker 2: by doing it? Right here, right now. Only you can

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Speaker 2: find that out if you tune into this probs.

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Speaker 1: I've got nothing left to protect, so let's just do drugs.

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Speaker 1: That's my one things. Nice to see you, Brian Gambell. Yes,

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Speaker 1: what a day it is Friday here New York City,

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Speaker 1: just across the water at the Prudential Center. At almost

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Speaker 1: this time tomorrow, not quite but pretty close, UFC three

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Speaker 1: to talk about that today. We're going to preview the

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Speaker 1: main and comin events, some of the rest of the

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Speaker 1: card as well as you indicated. At noon noon Eastern

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Speaker 1: Standard time. Craig Jones will be here and then we're

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Speaker 1: just going to uh, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know, probably the best hour in the show's history coming

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Speaker 2: your way. But don't forget. Two grown men are going

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Speaker 2: to bang this Saturday and Sodi Aamian we're fired up

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Speaker 2: for it too, So Deontay Wilder in Big Bang Jiang

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Speaker 2: gonna do it. So we'll set that down.

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Speaker 1: And bang each other.

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Speaker 2: We're going to bang chowder. Okay, by the way, New

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Speaker 2: England clam chowder so much better than Manhattan.

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Speaker 1: All clam chowder is pretty fucking gross. It's no no, no,

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? See that that's you'll They'll never

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Speaker 1: Wow, what am I going to do? Unable to go

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Speaker 1: to the states like Rhode Island or Vermont Connecticut?

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Speaker 2: Vermont does not want you.

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Speaker 1: I had a meeting with a guy this week and

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Speaker 1: he was asking where does BC live? And I was like,

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Speaker 1: because if they thought that you lived in and around DC,

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Speaker 1: I was like, no, no, no, he lives in Connecticut. And

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Speaker 1: the exact response that I got was why it's a shithole?

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Speaker 2: That was the It was actually not a shithole. It

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Speaker 2: is such an underratedly beautiful state. But if your only

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm ready to bang. Glad you're here, so thumbs

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Speaker 1: If you haven't done so already, you might be asking Luke,

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Speaker 2: I would say that you are not alone. Okay, I

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Speaker 2: Right now, here's the deal, as Luke often says, if

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Speaker 1: Do you take shots at me about what I've said?

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Speaker 2: I don't because you're a very comical person.

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Speaker 1: We had talked about doing things differently. It's just we

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Speaker 1: With that in mind, BC, why don't we start the show.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about UFC three Tozer two. As we mentioned,

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Speaker 2: give us reason to buy in that this upset is possible. Luke,

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Speaker 2: What else could Dustin Poier have done? Coming in incredible

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Speaker 2: Storyline is nice. It's like when you get serve the

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Speaker 2: The problem is he's fighting one of the best of

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Speaker 1: I think people overstate how lucky it is, but yes,

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Speaker 2: apart in the midst of any type of fire, Luke.

431
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Speaker 1: I will say that the weight cut is an next factor. Now,

432
00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,199
Speaker 1: both of them made weight right away. Both of them

433
00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,640
Speaker 1: had sunglasses on when they may wait publicly disguise how

434
00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,960
Speaker 1: drain they were. That to me is an X factor.

435
00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,760
Speaker 1: Now he's not traveling a ton for this, I think.

436
00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,359
Speaker 1: I think he's been in the States for a while

437
00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,680
Speaker 1: at this point, so that is also a mitigating factor.

438
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Speaker 1: But I will say that could drain him still be See,

439
00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,240
Speaker 1: we don't need to put some respect on Poorier's name, No,

440
00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:15,800
Speaker 1: but can you.

441
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Speaker 2: Address what I was relaying to you what Islam said.

442
00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,240
Speaker 2: I don't think there's actually an argument against what he's saying,

443
00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,160
Speaker 2: which is like, hey, Dustin's great, but what do wrestlers

444
00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,199
Speaker 2: do to him? And look at me these there's a

445
00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,480
Speaker 2: certain type of guy that Poria comes back and finishes.

446
00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,199
Speaker 2: Islam's not that dude, though, He's not that dude that

447
00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:33,520
Speaker 2: gets in those situations.

448
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Speaker 1: So he finished off Michael Chandler, who has a similar background.

449
00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,640
Speaker 1: But Michael Chandler so much more reckless, so much more

450
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Speaker 1: willing to take chances that a guy like Islam doesn't.

451
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Speaker 1: But Islam also doesn't make nearly as many mistakes, and

452
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Speaker 1: so that makes it so much harder when a guy

453
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Speaker 1: isn't open to Again, good fighters take advantage of openings.

454
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Speaker 1: Great fighters make their opponents make mistakes. Dude, Islam is

455
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Speaker 1: very resistant to that, super resistant to that.

456
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Speaker 2: I think the only question is Islam I'm going to

457
00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:04,960
Speaker 2: try to f around and get a guillotine to try

458
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Speaker 2: to just like double.

459
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Speaker 1: Down, and he's going to go for a submission. I

460
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Speaker 1: do think that whether he'll get it or not, but

461
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Speaker 1: I want to put some respect on parti's name if

462
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Speaker 1: I maybe see because we've got some sound I want

463
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Speaker 1: to get to as well. I listed some stats for Islam,

464
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Speaker 1: it's only right that I would list them for Party

465
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Speaker 1: eight as well. These are only at lightweight, but consider

466
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Speaker 1: the gravity of them. Top ten for most wins at fourteen.

467
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Speaker 1: Top four for most finishes at ten, tied for first

468
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Speaker 1: all time in terms of KO or TKO wins. Top

469
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Speaker 1: six for most post fight bonuses at eleven, fourth most

470
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Speaker 1: knockdowns with ten top By the way, Melvin Gallard is

471
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Speaker 1: still number one in that category, which is fucking bonkers.

472
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Speaker 1: Top seven most significant strikes landed with eleven hundred and

473
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Speaker 1: ninety four, and top ten strikes landed per minute at

474
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Speaker 1: six point oh three as an average, which is super super.

475
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Speaker 2: It's incredible that he's here doing what he's doing right now.

476
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 1: It's absolutely especially for an elite fighter like this. And

477
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Speaker 1: our guy Shack actually caught up with him. He actually

478
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,360
Speaker 1: didn't text me this, which is why I feel comfortable

479
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 1: using it to a fuck himself.

480
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Speaker 2: The Shack MMA channel on YouTube.

481
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Speaker 1: Someone asked me a question and it was what would

482
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Speaker 1: be a more feel good story? The Michael Bisping UFC

483
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Speaker 1: one ninety nine story or Dustin Partier winning a title

484
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Speaker 1: on Saturday, And I gotta be tell you you have

485
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Speaker 1: to think about that one for just a second.

486
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, you don't hold on.

487
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Speaker 1: They're a little bit different because Michael Bisbin was shooting

488
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Speaker 1: a movie when he got the call on two and

489
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Speaker 1: a half week's notice to take that fight. So it

490
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Speaker 1: was the most abrupt of circumstances, which made that one

491
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Speaker 1: highly implausible. Plus that was a rematch and Rocold had

492
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Speaker 1: finished him off. One armed guarote in Australia dominated him.

493
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Speaker 2: What was that two years earlier?

494
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Speaker 1: Yeah, crushed him. So BC, I want to play some sound,

495
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 1: but first let's get an answer to that question. What

496
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Speaker 1: would be a more feel good moment? Bisbying a one

497
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Speaker 1: ninety nine.

498
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Speaker 2: Or done three or two easily this And I think

499
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Speaker 2: part of that is because Bizzing in a lot of

500
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Speaker 2: his career was a villain and played into that role.

501
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Speaker 2: Not just like the foreign guy arriving on the scene,

502
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Speaker 2: but like there's been a lot of times where Bisping

503
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Speaker 2: has was looked at as a fighter as a villain.

504
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Speaker 2: That's what I've been open, honest and saying.

505
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Speaker 1: When he spat on the corner of Jorge River.

506
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Speaker 2: I mean he's always sort of been this like fighting

507
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Speaker 2: off the image of what Dan Hendo did to him

508
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 2: at one hundred and the fact that he ended up

509
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Speaker 2: winning the title and beating Hendo in the rematch, like

510
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 2: it's a testament of who he is. But even though

511
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 2: his story became a great feel good story, I was

512
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Speaker 2: their cage side when it happened at one nine nine

513
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Speaker 2: in La, I think Pooria is just so much more

514
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Speaker 2: of beloved and luke he's in. He's almost endured more.

515
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Speaker 2: I mean, you can make a similar case. I think

516
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Speaker 2: the difference is Michael Bisping's almost the guy who did

517
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Speaker 2: climb the mountain and become champion. That we actually still

518
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Speaker 2: debate and did a fun high court segment about it whether,

519
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Speaker 2: even with the title win, is he actually really a

520
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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. Because the only thing really against Bisbeeing

521
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 2: the longevity is great, the gameness and two divisions. Wesn't

522
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 2: have a lot of big wins. He's got more big

523
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Speaker 2: name losses than he does big name wins. Dude Pourier

524
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 2: is overflowing with big name wins. Yeah, And I think

525
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: that emotional story that goes back to the build of

526
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Speaker 2: the Habib fight. It goes back to the twenty five

527
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: when he modified the Teddy the Teddy Atlas Fate phrase

528
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 2: about the twenty five minutes to make it all makes

529
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Speaker 2: sense originally thirty six minutes because he's talking about boxing,

530
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Speaker 2: and now he's saying to finish the story. I mean,

531
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Speaker 2: it's it's perfect storytelling. It's just it's it's the America.

532
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Speaker 2: I mean, like he is the embodiment to me of

533
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 2: a smaller weight class, Randy Gutur, Like that's Dustin Poier's

534
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: legacy to me, Randy Catour in that sense, because this

535
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Speaker 2: captain America, that it doesn't matter the age or the circumstances,

536
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 2: or that he just is coming off of a devastating

537
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 2: loss on any given night, Luke Thomas throughout Dustin Poier's career,

538
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Speaker 2: and this is also in play on Saturday Night. On

539
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 2: any given night, greatness shoots out of him, and that

540
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 2: greatness can overtake anyone. And I don't think that was

541
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 2: actually the same with Michael Bisping. Although he did get

542
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 2: to that title level and he did get that win,

543
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 2: he wasn't as nearly beloved. And I think I've been

544
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 2: on record saying, look I like Bisping as a personality.

545
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 2: I don't love him as a as a color commentator

546
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Speaker 2: in the UFC, and I think sometimes the reasons I

547
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 2: don't think he plays into his true personality enough of

548
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 2: being kind of a trash talking villain. I'd like to

549
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 2: see him.

550
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: He's very.

551
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 2: Deferential, apologetic, almost almost like making an apology before criticizing

552
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 2: a fighter. But that's neither here nor there in the argument.

553
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 2: This is such a potential feel good story, but unlike

554
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Speaker 2: the other recent feel good stories, I just can't talk

555
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 2: myself into it. So try and talk me into it.

556
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Speaker 1: Okay, So I want to point out something. Here's what

557
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Speaker 1: the difference in the stories are. The best I can

558
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Speaker 1: tell the Bisping story again, he had beaten Anderson Silva,

559
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Speaker 1: an aged version of him, but he beat him.

560
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Speaker 2: I don't think he deserved to win that night, that's

561
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Speaker 2: part of.

562
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Speaker 1: Okay, But getting dropped into third the way he did

563
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Speaker 1: and then winning decisively into fourth courageous, Okay, that's exactly

564
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 1: the right word. He has a little bit of a

565
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,479
Speaker 1: vibe when he won the title of the Little Engine

566
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Speaker 1: that Could. Whereas listen to this stat from Parier, and

567
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Speaker 1: this is the difference to me, Bisping was the little

568
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Speaker 1: engine that could par a. We've all been kind of

569
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Speaker 1: waiting for that moment to get over the hump because

570
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Speaker 1: he's been in the company with elites. Listen to this.

571
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Speaker 1: This is from Andy Hickey MMA. You can follow him

572
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Speaker 1: on Twitter. UFC three oh two will be Dustin Poarier's

573
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Speaker 1: seventh pay per view main event. This will set a

574
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Speaker 1: promotional record for fighters that have never won the undisputed title.

575
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Speaker 1: Listen to this pay per view main events right where

576
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Speaker 1: I'm going to go in order listen to these names,

577
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Speaker 1: Randy Gatoor, Anderson Silva, John Jones, Tito Ortiz, George Saint Pierre,

578
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Speaker 1: Chuck ladell Is, a bj pen Rich Franklin, Connor, DC,

579
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Speaker 1: Rashad Evans, Matt Hughes, Rampage Steepe, Vitor bel Four, Amanda Nunez,

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Speaker 1: Dustin Parier, Jose Aldo, and Kamara Uspan. He is among

581
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Speaker 1: the presence of people who have that one accolade. He doesn't.

582
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Speaker 1: This completes the puzzle, so to speak, in a way

583
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Speaker 1: where Bispings felt like a hail Mary that just happened,

584
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Speaker 1: to a hail.

585
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Speaker 2: Mary that validated a very good slash, great fighter I

586
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Speaker 2: think we already believe that Dustin is a very great

587
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 2: fighter who just never it just never, the cards just

588
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: never went his way.

589
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Speaker 1: He had, you know, he had really tough fights that

590
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Speaker 1: were like uniquely bad matchups for him. The Olivera and

591
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Speaker 1: Habi fights were really really tough matchups. Let's play some

592
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Speaker 1: of this sound if we can hear that our guys,

593
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Speaker 1: Shack got ust to Shack for not texting me this

594
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: because I would have told him to go fuck himself.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's such well, I mean, I know he's

596
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Speaker 2: a big.

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Speaker 1: R part of this whole story which makes us fight intriguing.

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Speaker 1: You see, is this could be we don't know. This

599
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: might be the last thing I.

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00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 2: See Islam ripping Poitier for basically doing the one foot in,

601
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: one foot out.

602
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: All right, Cormier too, but he talked to Shack about retiring.

603
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: Let's see what he said, like.

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Speaker 4: I have to do it this time because I'm not gonna,

605
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Speaker 4: you know, get another chance. It's now or never next weekend.

606
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 4: But I'm just in a good mental spot, you know,

607
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 4: I'm grateful and starting to be content with with my career.

608
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: And my legacy.

609
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 4: I'm just in a good spot and ready to fight.

610
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 4: I feel like that's that's a position for me mentally

611
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Speaker 4: that I'm very dangerous in.

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Speaker 5: It is do you feel like it's due or die now?

613
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Speaker 4: Or never?

614
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Speaker 5: This weekend, this coming weekend?

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Speaker 1: It?

616
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Speaker 4: I know it never is because I'm capable of anything.

617
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 4: I can climb back to this spot and fight again

618
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Speaker 4: for the world title.

619
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Speaker 1: I can do anything.

620
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 4: I can grind back to it. I know I can't.

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Speaker 1: It's just I don't.

622
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Speaker 4: I'm not. I don't have it in me. I'm not

623
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Speaker 4: gonna do it again. I'm not going to climb the

624
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 4: ladder again. I've been doing this a long time and

625
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 4: it's a very selfish sport and I'm ready to be

626
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 4: a father and be a husband and be home and

627
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 4: be into a routine. So I wouldn't say I can't

628
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 4: do it again. I can do it again. I'm just

629
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 4: this is it for me.

630
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Speaker 5: Will there be more fights after this? Should you not

631
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 5: become the lightweight champ?

632
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 4: I'm not sure, man, this could be the last one.

633
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 5: Appreciate you sharing that. If you win, does that change

634
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 5: this situation or is it time to go be a dad?

635
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 4: Regardless, I'm still in the fence with with with win

636
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 4: or lose, you know I I just want to be

637
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 4: content with my career.

638
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 2: Damn powerful shit right there. At first, I want to

639
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 2: say this, I have so much respect for that man,

640
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: like like, don't over don't overtake the harsh like man,

641
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 2: I just can't find an angle to victory despite trying

642
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: not to be that ignorant dude who says there's no

643
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: chance that this happens. Do I want poor you to win? Yes?

644
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: I want him to finish the story. I think naturally,

645
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: as a human you almost should because if you followed

646
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Speaker 2: his story up and down like this, I love that

647
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: he's vulnerable enough to show us the near tears in

648
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: that moment, because pre coping with the fact that it

649
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: is almost over is enough to make him that emotional.

650
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: Because Luke, that's why we love his story this much,

651
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: because he lives for this, He bleeds for this, he

652
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 2: dies for this, like he has cultivated such a connection

653
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 2: to the fan base through the ups and downs of

654
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 2: his career. I mean, this might be the greatest story

655
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: ever told if he does this, and he's got my

656
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 2: vote on wanting him to do it. So I like

657
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: to see the honest and the vulnerable, honesty and vulnerability

658
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: there because You only can be a Randy Coutur like

659
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: person or a Dustin Poorie like person if you have

660
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: the ability to bounce back from the mental and physical

661
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: damage that comes with defeats. Luke, I don't think people

662
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: talk about that enough, like when when you lose when

663
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: you are expected to win, or when you build like

664
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: he did the build of the poory to the Herbib fight,

665
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: where the story was all about redemption and finally doing it,

666
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: and then he didn't do it, and then he got

667
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: built up for another chance at Oliver and he didn't

668
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: do it. Looking he lost these badly. He lost these

669
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: one sidedly, disappointingly, the BMF title head kick knockout. To

670
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: be able to rebuild yourself constantly and still believe what

671
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 2: he does, believe that I could do it again if

672
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: I wanted to, meaning make another run back here. That's

673
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: the testament to who he is, because you know he

674
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: goes through darkness to get to there's.

675
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: In fact, he talked to Shack about that darkness. Let's

676
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: hear what he had to say about battling depression.

677
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 5: What would be your advice to a fighter who probably

678
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 5: could benefit from talking to a professional, but for whatever reason,

679
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 5: isn't willing to take that step.

680
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 4: I think for sure in the male side of a

681
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 4: mixed martial arts competition. I'm not sure if it's the

682
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 4: same as on the female side, but we feel like

683
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 4: it's a weakness to admit we're going through something or

684
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 4: to seek help because things don't feel right in between

685
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 4: our ears. And it's not you know, it really isn't.

686
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 4: You got to take care of yourself and being prepared

687
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 4: to fight and being your best. The mental space is

688
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 4: part of that. It's all connected, you know. And I

689
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 4: went through a really down time where I was depressed

690
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 4: and not in a good spot at all. And you know,

691
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 4: I have a wife and daughter looking at me at

692
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 4: home and I have to be there and be.

693
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: Strong for them.

694
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 4: So you put things in perspective, and I'm just thankful

695
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 4: that I talk to the people I did, and I

696
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 4: have a good people surrounding me back home who care

697
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 4: about me and really help get me out of that place.

698
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 4: And it's not like it's fixed. It's not like you

699
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 4: turn a key in a lock and it's clicked, it's done.

700
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 4: It's work every day. I have to practice this every

701
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 4: single day. It's not a one, one time fixes. All,

702
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 4: you know, I'm still dealing with it. I work with

703
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 4: I work through it every single day. It comes at

704
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 4: different times, at different scenarios, different levels of stress, you know,

705
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 4: bring it out like but going through the repetitions and

706
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 4: putting myself back in the right spot. It's something I

707
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 4: practice every day.

708
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 2: As an American heras.

709
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to hear things like this rather than like, Guys,

710
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: if you feel bad about your life, shove your emotions

711
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: down and and just do more stuff at work Like

712
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: that is a recipe to being absolutely miserable, being a

713
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: bad father and being a bad husband. Fuck that, Like,

714
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: go fix yourself. Yeah, that takes strength.

715
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: Damn right, damn right.

716
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: It's same with BC dyeing his hair. He looks like

717
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: a fool.

718
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: But I mean I woke up the other day and

719
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: there were no more grays up there. Who shoe polish?

720
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: Says in his back.

721
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.

722
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: It was an impulse move. What do you think does it?

723
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: It does make me look like at least ten years younger.

724
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, if you fool some people out there,

725
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: I'm happy for you. You're not fooling me or at

726
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: the MKA audience more.

727
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 2: Generally, do the drapes match the Okay, that's I don't

728
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: care about.

729
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: Your cubic hair.

730
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,239
Speaker 2: I want you to know that I want you all right.

731
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: You see, let's quickly let's talk about the comin event here,

732
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: which actually is a great fight.

733
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 5: Dude.

734
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: I'm loving this card more by the day and hour.

735
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: I'm telling there's some charm to it. The comin event

736
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: absolutely has some. Sean Strickland is back after having lost

737
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: his title UFC two ninety seven to Driggs Duplessy, somewhat

738
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: controvers actually, I would say very controversially, depending on how

739
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: you one of you up. You did not controversially, just

740
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: fair enough, very disputed. I had DDP winning on first glance,

741
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: and then upon subsequent glance I thought Sean Strickland had it.

742
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: Beshina is back, having lost to Robert Whitaker, but also

743
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: showing I think a little bit more maturity. Also, this

744
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: is the first time he's fighting twice in a calendar

745
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: year since I think something like twenty seventeen BC. When

746
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,479
Speaker 1: you think about how these two matchup, and plus how

747
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: they've kind of interacted in person, where Strickland looks like

748
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: and he said it explicitly I'm better than him and

749
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: they know it. And Bowoshina is going back to the

750
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: secret juice bit. I mean he needs a new bits ad.

751
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: It's a good way. They both did. They both failed

752
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: that press conference in my mind, and I know that,

753
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: like he thought so yeah, I thought Dustin won the

754
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 2: press conference. I thought Islam came close. Zingers, he was confident,

755
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: was funny. He didn't give an f But Costa just

756
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: like so you had. Strickland really wanted to portray this

757
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: message that he always does that like fans, I'm only

758
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: here because of you. I love you. I want to

759
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,719
Speaker 2: go bleed and die in there for you. And I'm

760
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 2: not against that message. But he hammered it a home

761
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: like nineteen consecutive times every question he hold on. I

762
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: just got to say one thing, and it's like, no,

763
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: You've said that seventeen other times. And then Costa was

764
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: just like, I love New Jersey, this is great, right,

765
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: like you just really won. Try hard to get the

766
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: fans after him. It didn't work. This fight is crazy intriguing.

767
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: Can I tell you why?

768
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: Tell me why? On paper?

769
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: Sewn, Strickland's right when you look at the metrics the

770
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: game that they have the fact that for what say

771
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: what you will about Strickland, every time he goes in

772
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 2: there against the elite, he continues to level up and

773
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: evolve and be even more dynamic and dangerous as the

774
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: stakes rise. He rebounded himself, Luke from a devastating knockout

775
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: loss to Poeton that could have ended his run as

776
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: a title contender. I mean, he's not young at all either.

777
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: But Luke, even though he's supposed to win this fight

778
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: when you match him, match them up, and even though

779
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: Coasta is entering having lost three out of four against

780
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: very great curves at four out of five, even against

781
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: very good competition, the true elite of the elite, I

782
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: actually think you have to look at where their stocks

783
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: are actually at and going closely in a fight that

784
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: has the potential to be the close and Luke within

785
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: a stretch in which I believe he has lost four

786
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: or five, and there were some stretches in there where

787
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: we almost give him negative credit for beating Rocold because

788
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: he allowed it to become such a bloody brawl. And

789
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 2: I think even in the immediate aftermath of his very

790
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: bad loss out of Sonya and the public image of

791
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 2: the wine which I'll give him credit for turning all

792
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 2: of that into secret juice. And he's writhing the bit

793
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: till it's gonna die and I'm in the middle of

794
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: the desert.

795
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: Luke.

796
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: He back then, I was like, he's never gonna fight

797
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 2: for a title, He's never going to max out because

798
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: of the last four because he's too willing. I thought

799
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 2: to get in brawls and not lean on anything that

800
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: has changed. You got to give the coach the captain credit.

801
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: Eric Alberto Sin seems to be a very strong influence

802
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: in the corner in the last few fights that even

803
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 2: largely in defeats because again the one winning that stretches

804
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: rock called. But you almost take a lot away from

805
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: him for why that fight became like that, Luke. He

806
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: is improving and maturing and gaining patients and finding new

807
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: ways to add wrinkles that I think only illuminate more

808
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: true strength he brings in, which is knockout power in

809
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: both hands, in both feet. That Luke, even though Strickland

810
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 2: should win this fight, and boy does he have a

811
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 2: lot of reason to because he is, He's gonna get

812
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 2: a huge money fight if he wins. Us whether a

813
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: rematch with Drickis in Australia for the title. He could

814
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: get a fight with Izzy for all we know, in

815
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: a rematch. I mean there's a lot of bit You

816
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: know what if bon Nichols ready eventually soon to make

817
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: some big step month, So there's a lot that could

818
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: be at stake. But the one thing that Strickland used

819
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: to do against Poeton before he tightened that up and

820
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 2: then we saw a different Strickland in the Izzy and

821
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 2: DDP fights where he was so dialed in. Look, there's

822
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 2: still part of him that loves a little bit too

823
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 2: much being in a war. And I think if he

824
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: takes the type of strikes that he's willing to at

825
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 2: times to get his offense off against this version of Costa,

826
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: who I think is going to be a little bit

827
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 2: more explosive and dynamic, then maybe even Strickland is is

828
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: gonna think he is because I think his stock is rising.

829
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: This might be the perfect storm for Costa to crash

830
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 2: the title picture, get a huge finish in here, and

831
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: maybe Luke maybe get close to to not only making

832
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: a second run at the title, but maxing himself out.

833
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: I believe, I low key believe in the stock of

834
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: where Paulo Costa is going right now that yes, maybe

835
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 2: four out of five times he's gonna lose this, but

836
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: Luke will Saturday be that one time that he lands

837
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: that big one. It's not like I'm seeing warning signs

838
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: from Strickland, but they laid it out the press conference.

839
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: John Anick, the host, confirmed it. There's so much more

840
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: at stake here for Costa. For Strickland, it's more about just,

841
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: you know, defense and control, even though it's not the

842
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: mindset he's bringing in. He says, look, we're gonna bang

843
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 2: into each other and have a bloody war, but it's

844
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: more like prevent defense to can to maintain his status

845
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: atop the division where Costa has so much more to gain.

846
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 2: He can almost erase that streak of three losses in

847
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: four fights with one big one and could be on

848
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 2: the doorstep of a monster frickin' fight. And Luke, if

849
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 2: he is doing more things in line of taking his

850
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: strengths but being more judicial and how he presents them.

851
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 2: Strickland's standing so close to you all the time is

852
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 2: certainly great slipping punches, but he may walk into something bigger.

853
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 2: He may be too close for something really big here

854
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 2: that if this becomes that bloody war that Strickland wants

855
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 2: it to be. Luke, you can't have those type of

856
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 2: fights against guys who have drastically bigger, bigger weapons than you.

857
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: I think in this matchup, Coasta has drastically bigger weapons

858
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 2: in Strickland, and I think it's going to play a factor.

859
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a really interesting fight for me

860
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: from an ex's and O standpoint. I think in addition

861
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 1: to everything you saying, which I certainly agree with an Echo,

862
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: I would also add one, people are losing sight of something.

863
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: This fight is five rounds. That could be a very

864
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: important thing to think about. Here's why everyone focuses on

865
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: the fact that Coastal loss to Whitacer and oh here's

866
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: another great a level guy he lost to. But he

867
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: had showed significant maturity relative to what we had seen

868
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: previously in that fight. To your point, Captain Eric Albert Erascene,

869
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: I think can continue to help him elevate in that space.

870
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: But more importantly, if you look at the career of

871
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: Sean Strickland and his fans don't really want to admit this,

872
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: but it's true, he's got a Obviously everyone knows it's

873
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: a very defense heavy style. But why. Part of the

874
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: reason why is he puts the traffic up there and

875
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: he maintains the right distance and he's doing pushkicks. But

876
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: the other one BC is the back pedaling. Remember, he'll

877
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: put his head behind his hips and just backpedal out

878
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: of the way, throwing traffic and whatnot. And the reason

879
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: why that's important is because it makes him very hard

880
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: to track down. It makes them very hard to hit

881
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: his defense. There really isn't hardly any question about it.

882
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: It's a little unorthodox, but he's proven against Izzy, against

883
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: even DDP, proved that it can work really, really well.

884
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: But what's the problem with it. The problem is if

885
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: my head is behind my hips and I'm backpedaling, I

886
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: can never counter right. And so he ends up having

887
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: these fights like the easy one wasn't that way, but

888
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: the Cannoneer fight and the Drikkis fight where Yes, in

889
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: the end, upon a second viewing, I did think that

890
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: he won, but he's making them close because there's not

891
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: much offense going back. Now you've got a guy in

892
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,479
Speaker 1: Bohashiine who you know is going to track you down,

893
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: who you know is going to follow you. I really

894
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: want to see a guy. I don't know if he's

895
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: going to get back to former champstadt. I wouldn't rule

896
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: it out, but it's hard to say. But in terms

897
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: of technical evolution, you've got Eric Nixon in your corner,

898
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: You've got extreme couture facilities and training partners, and you

899
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: can tell dude Strickland cares about his craft. I want

900
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 1: to see if he can raise his game to put

901
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: a little bit more offense against I'm not gonna say

902
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: Taylor made, but the right kind of opponent to intercept

903
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: who's following it.

904
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 2: If he does that, he can win this fight somewhat handily.

905
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 2: I agree, But I still wonder if for as great

906
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: as his run to the title was, and I give

907
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: him full credit, I mean to he snake charmed Dizzy,

908
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 2: I never ever, ever, ever thought I would see that right,

909
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: and then goes in there and quite nearly literally down

910
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: to a point, nearly defended his title against DDP in

911
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 2: a very tough fight. I just wonder can he do

912
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 2: this again, because it's almost like he goes out there

913
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 2: and throws a no hitter in a way. Luke, you

914
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, And it's defensive and everything You're

915
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 2: saying maybe sometimes there's not enough offense in there to

916
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: kind of leave no doubt if he leaves this a

917
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: close fight and leaves Coast to the opportunity to land

918
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 2: something big. He's so great at shutting down sustained offense,

919
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: like is he needs to build upon his offense to

920
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: be able to knock you out? Is he doesn't have

921
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: a lot. I mean, the Whittaker was a one punch knockout,

922
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: but he.

923
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 1: Leaned back and just crushed him with it.

924
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 2: I fear more him fighting a single strike knockoutartist, a

925
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 2: knockout artist like like Coast is, because he really only

926
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: has to get lucky that one time again, Like, wouldn't

927
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 2: be the type of fight that that you know four

928
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 2: out of five times? Do I think he can get

929
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 2: his hand raised?

930
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: No?

931
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,959
Speaker 2: I just wonder if the timing is right and where

932
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: Strickland's exactly going to be at mentally, emotionally. Is he

933
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 2: going to take this as serious as he needs to?

934
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: I think he will. We actually have some sound I

935
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: want to play from him as well. Let me say something,

936
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: I've heard this clip before the show again. Shack texts me,

937
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: and I'm just like block every time, Right, It's great.

938
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: But he did this interview and he got a piece

939
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: of sound from Strickland that is the most insightful thing

940
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: I think he's ever said. And I agree with every

941
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: single word about it.

942
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: Oh when he was talking about Justin Trudeau, No.

943
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: I didn't hear that one. Well, he did talk about happiness.

944
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: This I thought was extremely correct by him, super insightful.

945
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 5: Let's hear your sort of self validation was tied so

946
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 5: much to the letters you FC prior to your motorcycle accident,

947
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 5: and how during that time dealing with the recovery, you

948
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 5: kind of just figured out like this isn't the end.

949
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: All bail what.

950
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 6: But I mean that's kind of that's what like society does,

951
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 6: like you know, they have you pursue something that you

952
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 6: think you want just to realize like, oh, that's not

953
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 6: really what makes you happy.

954
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 5: You know.

955
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 6: I always use like Andrew Tate and even like that

956
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 6: Dan Brazilian guy, like you know, because they they are

957
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 6: like influencers in the world, and like generally, if you

958
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 6: idolize people like this, you're just gonna end up like

959
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 6: miserable and depressed, you know.

960
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: And that's kind of like how it was with UFC.

961
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 6: Like I idolized the idea of being a camera, of

962
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 6: being a fighter, like it was my pride. I wanted

963
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 6: to be famous, and then you start realizing, man, like

964
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 6: that doesn't make you happy.

965
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: You know. It's like, what makes you happy is generally

966
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 2: in the right things.

967
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 6: You know, like you know, being good to your woman,

968
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 6: you know, living a good life, not being a shit bag.

969
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 6: And these are all very.

970
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: Difficult and things accomplish, but.

971
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 6: Like generally it's generally it's leads to like more of

972
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 6: a long term happiness and more success.

973
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 2: Look, he doesn't, he doesn't always, you know, get it

974
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 2: wrong if you're on the side that I tend to be.

975
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: On a lot of things that he says publicly, Luke,

976
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: he does sort of like he's almost when he's talking

977
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: in this vein, sort of the anti hero that UFC needs.

978
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: We sometimes look at like the DZ Brothers as anti

979
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: heroes because it's you know, middle finger everything and we're

980
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: not going to stand in line like you want us to.

981
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 2: But it's not every topic with Strickland, because he's gonna

982
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 2: be honest and rail against whatever he believes, and he

983
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: believes firmly in each one. And there's a lot of

984
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 2: things that I think, man, is he heavy handed or

985
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 2: just absurd or a problem in speaking publicly, But some

986
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 2: of these things that he's able to point out about

987
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: everyday life, and it's almost like it's almost like dirt

988
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 2: bag philosopher in a way. But he's not wrong. I

989
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: don't think he's wrong in the way he looks at

990
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 2: not wrong. His connection to the employer. He We're gonna

991
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: have him talking about fighter pay in a minute. I

992
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 2: don't think he's wrong on a lot of these things.

993
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: And I think I would almost like him to use

994
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: his powers for goodmore. And I do think he's growing

995
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: as a person from this process. I do think what

996
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 2: he said at Thursday's press conference was true when you

997
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 2: think the fan saying like this has allowed me to

998
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 2: sort of grow up and not be, you know, as

999
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 2: much of a danger to myself. And I mean, we're

1000
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: watching him evolve to a certain degree. I'm not ready to,

1001
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: you know, nominate him for a Pulitzer Prize.

1002
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: Or me neither, but I will say something like him

1003
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 1: a Peace Prize. I think through this process of fighting

1004
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: and through winning and losing and then forming a community

1005
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: at extreme guture, he's learning who he is and he's

1006
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: learning what actually matters in the world. And I think

1007
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: he again, I don't know the guy, but he seems

1008
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 1: to prefer a simpler life and again working on his craft,

1009
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: being part of the small circle that he has and

1010
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: just kind of keeping it that way. I think that's

1011
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: probably gonna be good for him long term.

1012
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 2: He said, I'm countdown that after his career is over,

1013
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 2: he's going to find a small town and just live

1014
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 2: a regular you know, is.

1015
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: One thing he said that I really just want to

1016
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: stop and take a moment to like be like so

1017
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: so true. But he says, like, you know, you have

1018
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: to do the right things. You have to be good

1019
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: to your he says, woman, but your partner. You have

1020
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: to be good to the people around you. You have

1021
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: to try, and he goes, these are not easy things

1022
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: to do. I'm so glad that he said that people

1023
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: make it out to be that like being a good

1024
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: person and being a good husband, or being a good

1025
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 1: partner or being a good friend, that these are things

1026
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: that are easy to do all the time, and the

1027
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: older you get, the more you realize it's actually quite difficult.

1028
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 1: It's not so hard necessarily to know what those things are.

1029
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: All those sometimes that can be the case. But just

1030
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: to live and I have to wake up every day,

1031
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: how do I be good to you? How do I

1032
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: good to be good to bed? How to be good

1033
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: to my wife and my kid and myself and the

1034
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: people around me, like.

1035
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 2: Themers of our staff that trade trump coin? How do

1036
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: you be good for them?

1037
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: You know, sell, sell sell, Yeah, they're gonna make a

1038
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: lot of money. Sometimes I come here and I take

1039
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: a dump in the no dump bathroom. You I'm not

1040
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm not.

1041
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: I'm not always. We have video proof of that, just

1042
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 2: a case we need it.

1043
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm not always being my best self. But I have

1044
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: thought about this exact thing about dude, living a good life,

1045
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: an appropriate life is hard. It is not easy.

1046
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 2: Do you think over a beer without cameras there by

1047
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: a fire with Sean Strickland, we could we could come

1048
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 2: to some middle ground as men.

1049
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't think gay people should be stoned

1050
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: to death. That's really what I think. There are people

1051
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: and they should be treated as people.

1052
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: Well, he can be your hero or your enemy based

1053
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 2: on the day. I mean, he's standing up to the UFC,

1054
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 2: standing up to a lot of people. But Luke, when

1055
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: I look at this card, and if I was looking

1056
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 2: at at it from a betting point of view, I'm

1057
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: taking Mad you have by third round submission, wow, and

1058
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: Coasta by fourth round stop. I'm going for like the

1059
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: hail Mary parlay, it's not a Hailmary in the main event,

1060
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 2: because it's certainly the expected breakdown of how this fight

1061
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: is going to go. I think though, that that that

1062
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: Corier does tap out unfortunately a third time in a

1063
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: title fight, because of who he's facing. I think Coasta

1064
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 2: can pull this off. Where are you at on this

1065
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: co main event? If you had to make a lean,

1066
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 2: so it is close.

1067
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: My my main event pick is identical to yours. Islam

1068
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: third round sub I'm going to say Strickland by decision.

1069
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: I am going to say that I don't think he's

1070
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: got the firepower to put Coast away. I think Coasta

1071
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: can make this very tricky, very very like. By the way,

1072
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: it's not that if Costa fails this test you can

1073
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: just write him off. But if he passes this test,

1074
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: it's a huge boot. He doesn't have a win this

1075
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: good yeah on his resume by a million miles, and

1076
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: if he makes it exciting, a loss is kind of forgivable. Too,

1077
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: because it's just hard to do that. But the problem

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Speaker 1: is Strickland just finds ways to put the fight on

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Speaker 1: his terms. So it's a big test for Poulo Kast.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to as got to make it a fight

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Speaker 2: which Strickland will applige you in terms of the distance.

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Speaker 1: But I agree, I I it's it's a highly intriguing one.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Strickland be a decision, but it's a

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Speaker 1: tough one. Okay. By the way, five rounds one more time.

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Speaker 1: Is very good. Thank you for that text to Craig.

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Speaker 1: We'll get him here pretty pretty soon. So that should

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Speaker 1: be a lot of fun BC if we can quickly

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Speaker 1: go through the rest of this main card. By the way,

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00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: they moved Jelton Almeta versus Alexander Romanov off the main card,

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00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: put it on the prelims. They elevated the Nico Rice

1137
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: versus Alex Morono fight. I don't hate the call one

1138
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Speaker 1: way or the other.

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00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,959
Speaker 2: It's interesting because they prioritize heavyweights on the main card

1140
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 2: always all these Fightmanov showed up not looking good. So

1141
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 2: the thing is, Luke, he's been doing that on like

1142
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 2: four or five fights in a row. Yeah, yeah, what

1143
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 2: is going on? Because when he's in shape, he's a

1144
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 2: much much different fighter than the guy that we've seen

1145
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 2: implode and fall apart put it back together, but not fully.

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00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 2: What do you know about it?

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00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly everything that's going on in his

1148
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: personal life, but it is derailing a guy who had

1149
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: a lot of ability and I think a lot of

1150
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: promise in pwer wrestler and power and still still mind.

1151
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: I don't say he doesn't, but it definitely puts in

1152
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: a weird position. Jelton Almeida also didn't do himself any

1153
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: favors in that Curtis Blades fight, just kind of chasing

1154
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: takedowns that weren't really all that there or a position

1155
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: that wasn't a.

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00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 2: Good ass fight though Almeida versus versus Romanov, I mean

1157
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: this would be Almdea's bounce pack.

1158
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: The opportunity Romanov is really just ship the bed.

1159
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 2: I mean it has a lot of lay and prey

1160
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 2: potential here.

1161
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: But okay, either way, Kevin Holland is back against Michael

1162
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: olok Shashik, Kevin Holland kind of been up and down.

1163
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: He wins too, he loses to. He wins too, he

1164
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: loses to. This is the kind of opponent that in

1165
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: the past who by the way, Olk Shihiak, we should

1166
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: also say I think twelve thirteen fights into the UFC

1167
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,760
Speaker 1: has also been very up and down. Kevin Holland should

1168
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: win this, and of course some of the losses have

1169
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: been on short notice. Then there was the one to Hamzat.

1170
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Speaker 1: There a lot of create like he fights tough guys,

1171
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: not like he fights scrubs. I feel like he should

1172
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Speaker 1: win this one.

1173
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he could just never guarantee that he wins. Almost

1174
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: on a Rose type cycle that Pat Berry used to

1175
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 2: say that you know she's gonna win three and then

1176
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 2: she's gonna lose badly in the fourth, and it's just

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Speaker 2: going to keep going like that in his career. He

1178
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 2: should win this based on that trajectory of sort of

1179
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 2: the two wins, two losses, and they're always in the

1180
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 2: extreme last minute scenario, or fought the wrong style and

1181
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 2: larned himself into a war. This is the get right fight,

1182
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 2: and I think it's the get right opponent now, mihal

1183
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: Olashayshak certainly could win an alpharrand impersonation contest. Look impersonating

1184
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 2: an impersonator, there'd be a lot of a lot of

1185
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: all right gets home alone here. So what I'll say, though,

1186
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 2: Luke is Colin needs to kind of go back to

1187
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 2: what originally when he cut down to welterweight. What I

1188
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: loved about what he brought to this division. The weight

1189
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 2: cut didn't sacrifice what he can do on the ground.

1190
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 2: And Luke, when he's taking guys down, I feel like

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00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 2: it makes his striking in his one punch knockout ability

1192
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 2: so much you know, it just it, It fuels it

1193
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: so much more. I think this is a fight where

1194
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 2: he won't have trouble on the ground when he goes there,

1195
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: and I think he can knock out me. How olshayshek

1196
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 2: and remind us of ourselves who he is. I mean, look,

1197
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 2: he he gets brought around for ideas of big fights.

1198
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 2: His name gets thrown around a lot, whether it's to

1199
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Speaker 2: test somebody on the way up.

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Speaker 1: Or you know, you know Kevin Holland back at one

1201
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: eighty five for this too.

1202
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Speaker 2: By the way, Oh, this is one, that's right, It

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Speaker 2: is one eighty five, which I don't love. But is

1204
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 2: that gonna make him what do you think that'll How

1205
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 2: will that inform his wrestling choices?

1206
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna want to wrestle too much.

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00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: He might grab that dars if Alak Shishak gets a

1208
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: little froggy, that's always a thing he can do.

1209
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 2: But he's more skilled. He should win this, right, he

1210
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 2: should win this.

1211
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Speaker 1: This is the kind of guy who is a good

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00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: test but Holland has a lot of ability in a

1213
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: lot of different areas. It's not just striking. I guess

1214
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to see Nico Price, who has also

1215
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 1: been I think very more down than up, is back

1216
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: after a long layoff at one hundred and seventy pounds

1217
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: against the kind of semi surging Alex Moreno, who's I

1218
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: think done a lot to maximize his potential. Yes, more

1219
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: No gonna be a little bit more crafty, safe so

1220
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: old students, so you know he's gonna be looking to

1221
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: really outthink Nico Price, who was a bit of a

1222
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: barbary in which we say affectionately, but really it is true.

1223
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: He'll take a lot of risk along the way.

1224
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 2: There's one in four with one no contest Nico Price

1225
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 2: in his last six fights, Luke, and he's lost two

1226
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 2: in a row. But I follow him one of my

1227
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: favorite guys to watch in sort of a fun and

1228
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 2: entertainment way.

1229
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Speaker 5: Luke.

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Speaker 2: The interviews he was giving ahead of the last few

1231
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 2: fights were more in the direction of I know I

1232
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: have this brawling explosive ability, but I got to kind

1233
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 2: of rate it in Luke. He's changed that after the

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00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 2: recent defeats. You know what he said now that every

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00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 2: single fight he's gonna go balls to the wall, He's

1236
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 2: gonna bring it. We're gonna see the old school crazy

1237
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: man Nico Price. Some would say that guy never left Luke,

1238
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 2: but he's telling you he'll be back. Is that enough?

1239
00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: Is that enough to get his hand raised?

1240
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. Also, I think he's got the Antonio

1241
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 1: Kramarti thing. I think he's got like a billion kids

1242
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: that can be tough to deal with.

1243
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: Let him spray, Just let him spray, Okay, please, Luke.

1244
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 2: Do you care about Grant Dawson coming back here a

1245
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 2: lightweight against Joe so lucky.

1246
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: I think he got derailed in terms of his progress.

1247
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: This is a big one. Also, don't forget last part

1248
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: fight on the main card is going to be the

1249
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: Randy Brown Eliza Zeleski do Santos fight, which should be

1250
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: a great striking battle. Don't really know where it puts

1251
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: the winner, but indeed it should be fun.

1252
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 2: We are also seeing an aftermarket Mickey gall trying to

1253
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 2: keep his career alive on Home.

1254
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: Soon that Basil Hfez fight. That guy is a fucking hammer.

1255
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 2: But what don't you know a lot about this Eileen

1256
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 2: Perez Joscelyn Edwards fight, not just with the potential for

1257
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: twerking post fight, but don't these two like blood hate

1258
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 2: each other from an.

1259
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: Ensure Well, Edwards had a fight with Eileen and her

1260
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: coach and she got choked out. Yeah, and so this

1261
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: is this is like a UFC looked at like real

1262
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: human trauma was like, we got to make a fight

1263
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: around that. I love.

1264
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 2: Usually the fight that they put in as the second

1265
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 2: fight in the card is usually a women's matchup that

1266
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: gets me up in the morning, and not for the

1267
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 2: reasons you think. Look, there's juicy storylining.

1268
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: Jake Matthews, who hates it when MMA media tries to

1269
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: get fight or pay improved, is back against Phil row.

1270
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: He should Sam Lvy. Actually, Zer doesn't get paid to

1271
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Speaker 2: be great.

1272
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: All right, Hey, who took on? He's taking on Phil

1273
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 1: Row who took who had a karate combat grappling match

1274
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: against our next game.

1275
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 2: We got choked out against the side the angled sidew.

1276
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: Which I found out, having prepped for this interview, that

1277
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 1: he was encouraged to do that by the Karate combat promoter,

1278
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: like get a submission off of the side of the.

1279
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 2: Oh, it wasn't rigged.

1280
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: It was like if you not rigged, but like, yeah,

1281
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: I can get the chance, Like see if you can

1282
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 1: see if you can do that, dude.

1283
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: People are anxious to see us interview. Craig anxious.

1284
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: All right, so we still have to do some UFC news.

1285
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: We can catch it on the back, I understand, and

1286
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: we also have to enter. We have to set up

1287
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: the Wilder and Big Bang Jang fight. Yes, but I

1288
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: think he's here, so we could probably get this going

1289
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: if we're ready. Oh, one second, we'll get him going.

1290
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: But let's set this up. Craig Jones, famous grappler, one

1291
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: of the most famous grapplers in ju jitsu in the world.

1292
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 2: It's it's fair to say, arguably the best grappler in.

1293
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: The world or no, No, I don't think it's fair

1294
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: to say that he's sort of mean. The B team

1295
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: has sort of called that for a reason.

1296
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 2: He's he's a he's a major part of the grappling

1297
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 2: scene as an ambassador now promoter, and also.

1298
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: Something of an innovator too, something of an innovator as well,

1299
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 1: innovator of innovator, I should say innervador innervator. So he

1300
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 1: was going to do ADCC, the most prestigous grappling tournaments

1301
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: but certainly Nogi, but maybe overall in jiu jitsu, and

1302
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: instead decided, you know what, why don't we just do

1303
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: not a lot of just do a lot of notes,

1304
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: do a lot of drugs, and set up his own tournament,

1305
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: the Craig Jones Invitational, which is going to take place

1306
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: on the same Friday and Saturday in Las Vegas, August sixteenth, seventeenth.

1307
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: If you wanted to watch ADCC on Sunday, you can

1308
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: do that. That Craig Jones Invitational will be over. It's

1309
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: going to be at the Thomas and Max Center. This

1310
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: is a real thing live on YouTube. When I booked

1311
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: this interview, I actually messaged Craig and I'm like, you bullshitting,

1312
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: Like is this real? He's like, it's let's go ahead

1313
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 1: and bring him in. I think he's got an Argentina

1314
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: soccer jersey.

1315
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 2: Australia's finest, the funniest man in combat sports is our

1316
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 2: fine team.

1317
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 1: Putting things together up. But I'm too rude.

1318
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 2: Craig Jones, thank you for joining us. Bye bye. By

1319
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 2: popular demand for the show. Okay, okay, oh yeah, nothing

1320
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 2: a double I couldn't figure out. I wanted to find

1321
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 2: out that was true. I mean, what if I do

1322
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 2: people ever just shoot on you, Craig? I was I

1323
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 2: was more talking about your love life. But that's all right,

1324
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, Okay, m up here, we're gonna get

1325
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 2: him a chair too.

1326
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: I'm sure, Yeah, let's get him a chair. There was

1327
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: a dog earlier in the studio. It's it's Mayhem. Here

1328
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: we are there, we are. Yeah, we both have birds

1329
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: tattooed on our forearms. Very clever, very clever. Yeah.

1330
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 2: There is here as some fluids if you need it, Craig.

1331
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 1: And uh, there we are. Does he have Does you

1332
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: need them? I don't know if he needs them? Does

1333
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: it matter to you? You want headphones? All right? Nice to

1334
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: see you, Craig. How are you? Jesus, let's turn promoter life.

1335
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: We hear him, you can hear him. Good, how do

1336
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: you sound? Go ahead and talk Craig.

1337
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 3: You guys hear me.

1338
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: There we go. Now we're cooking with gas. All right?

1339
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:19,959
Speaker 1: Very good.

1340
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 3: I mean it's been chaos, you know, non stuff phone

1341
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 3: calls to grapplers. That's very that's very challenging as it

1342
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 3: is to them having to be the middle band between them.

1343
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: I heard you saying, like on Rogan that you just

1344
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: don't even want to hang out with the jiu jitsu

1345
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: guys because they're fucking weirdos, a little weird to be honest.

1346
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: Very very We have an agenda here, but I mean,

1347
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 2: I got Craig Jones in the studio. Does cauliflower air

1348
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 2: get you laid more or less? I've always wondered that's

1349
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 2: a good question. It's like a bad.

1350
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: Depends who you're banging, right.

1351
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 3: I think they think you to say, you know, oh wow, alright, all.

1352
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: Right, let's talk about this. Let's set this up, Craig.

1353
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: There's a lot to get to. Well, let's start with

1354
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: the biggest news item if we can. I was hoping

1355
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: you were gonna bring a million dollars. I was gonna

1356
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: fucking put a cooker in your face and take it.

1357
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 2: But that aside, that's DC talk.

1358
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: That's DC talk. The Craig Jones Invitational. I've messaged You've

1359
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: been like, dude, is this fucking real? He's like, it's real. Okay,

1360
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: this is now the eighty seventh podcast you've done this week,

1361
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: so I know it's real.

1362
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 3: Hopefully.

1363
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. The whole aim of it is what is to

1364
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: get more pay out of ADCC, because it can't be

1365
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: to make a profitable event. It's not possible to do that.

1366
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 2: This is the equivalent of putting on an MMA event

1367
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: in Vegas against the UFC on the same night as

1368
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 2: the paper.

1369
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 3: I mean, have you seen the cub Your Enthusiasm episode

1370
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 3: about the petty Store.

1371
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:43,439
Speaker 1: No?

1372
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 3: I have not watch that. That'll give you a bit

1373
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 3: of insight inside. But no, I mean, I think it's

1374
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 3: just to go to the sport grappling. You know, we're

1375
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 3: taking all the tickets sales giving it to charity, but

1376
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 3: we're trying to do something good here, put a free

1377
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 3: on YouTube. I think grappling's hard enough to watch for free,

1378
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 3: let alone behind the paywell so go to at least

1379
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 3: here we have that pay well to get some eyes

1380
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 3: on this.

1381
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 2: We at least high Rollers instituted a reason to get involved.

1382
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 3: That's true. Yeah, I mean we're not giving away a

1383
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 3: pound of weigh. We're giving away a pound of noseb.

1384
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: Did you ever ever go into the high Rollers place

1385
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: in Vegas? H?

1386
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 3: No, I haven't. Actually, I'm not into the downers. I'm

1387
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 3: into more of the ups.

1388
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: See, I'm not into the uppers. I'm into the donors

1389
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: big time. I can't.

1390
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 3: Maybe at the end of the night for me, if

1391
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 3: you go.

1392
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: To the we went to the high Rollers thing and

1393
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: Patchy Mix was had a match there and some other ones. Dude,

1394
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: when you walk in, they had a bucket, not write,

1395
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: a fucking bucket of just pre rolls in like all

1396
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: in cases, all you can handle, and it was like,

1397
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: just take as much as you want. We got we

1398
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: got highest. Look.

1399
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 3: I gives me anxiety. That gives me anxiety. I can't

1400
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 3: speak if I stop smoking. Second guest, I start hosting podcasts.

1401
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 4: Uh.

1402
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: What has been the response privately not publicly privately to

1403
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: what you've been doing in jiu jitsu?

1404
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 3: I mean it's a mixed bag I would say ninety

1405
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 3: nine percent overwhelmingly positive. A few death threats in there,

1406
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 3: you know, But.

1407
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 2: But you mean you mean real, real threats to get

1408
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 2: out of this space you're on my corner or else.

1409
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 3: I mean, there has been some very angry upset people obviously,

1410
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 3: but who's the most I don't want to say it

1411
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 3: might come through with that threats, you know. Now, obviously

1412
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 3: people a gonna be angry putting on the same weekend basically,

1413
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 3: But for the fans, they can go to Alvin Friday

1414
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 3: Saturday and they can go watch the EDDYCC finals on Sunday.

1415
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 3: And you know what, I'm a very generous guy. I

1416
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 3: want to completely disrupt their event. Whoever wins EDDYCC welds

1417
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 3: this year, we'll get an invite to my event next year.

1418
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 3: It'll become a qualified.

1419
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: That's that's big of you.

1420
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 2: Well, like when the ABA disrupted and professional American Basketball,

1421
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 2: they ended up merging with the NBA, when h the

1422
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 2: AFL ended up merging with the professional NFL in the States,

1423
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 2: is your goal to merge down the line and make

1424
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 2: grappling at the highest level even better or you're just like,

1425
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 2: we can do it better than you. We can get

1426
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 2: paid more we can get better exposure, so it's time

1427
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 2: to teach class.

1428
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 3: I don't think we need them, you know, I don't

1429
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 3: think we need anyone else in this space. I think

1430
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 3: we don't need them to help us out here. You know,

1431
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 3: it seems like everyone's jumping ship as it is. I

1432
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 3: think it's obviously going to end up being the New

1433
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 3: Wave Invitational, a new wave of from that. But I

1434
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 3: think we're going to do fine.

1435
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: How many competitors? Okay, so there's two weight classes right

1436
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: above eighty below eighty kilos. How many do you want

1437
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: in each division?

1438
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 3: We're going to fill sixteen places in each division. One

1439
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 3: million dollar win. It takes ten thousand and one dollar

1440
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 3: to show up. Other events pay ten thousand to win.

1441
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 3: We're threw in the extra dollar. Yeah, we're going to

1442
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 3: fill it up. And my dream is really always comes

1443
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 3: second place. So I was like, fuck paying second place anything.

1444
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 3: It's ten thousand and one or a million, So for me,

1445
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 3: you better use some of that ten k for health

1446
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 3: insurance because no one's happening in that final.

1447
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 4: No.

1448
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: I don't suspect that they would. And is it a

1449
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: little bit weird Like someone was asking me like, oh,

1450
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: there's just really no way that someone who is like,

1451
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: how big does Nicky Ryan walk around?

1452
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 3: Man? He changes shapes every three minutes right now though,

1453
01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 3: Oh that's what he's saying. Yeah, he gets you, skinny.

1454
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 3: I don't know what he wears right now, but he'd

1455
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 3: be perfect for the eighty Killer.

1456
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: What the fuck?

1457
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know he was there. That's racist because

1458
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 3: it's in the dark. That's how I turned on that.

1459
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 2: You wouldn't have had the takedown defense Anthony Smith did

1460
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 2: during an invasion.

1461
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: Careful, now, how many people do you have signed booked?

1462
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 3: It's oh, only like five to six EG division. We're

1463
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 3: waiting for a couple of key players that are in

1464
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 3: negotiations right now that are doing G Worlds. And those

1465
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 3: guys said to me, fuck off, I'll talk to you

1466
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 3: next week.

1467
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: World's just win.

1468
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 3: I think it's this weekend. Yeah.

1469
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: Where is that?

1470
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 3: That is in California at the Pyramid. I don't know something.

1471
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: It's so weird. Fifteen years ago, Worlds was where all

1472
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: the eight grapplers went. I guess they still do to

1473
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: an extent. So it was the most important. ADCC was important,

1474
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: but it.

1475
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 3: Was still like that was important again. I like how

1476
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 3: you said ADCC was important. I'm taking that.

1477
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: Well okay, But like I mean, so here's the thing.

1478
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: You're like, Oh, I don't want to get sideways with ADCC.

1479
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: How do you not get sideways? Because if you get

1480
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: sixteen in each division, that means you're going to drain

1481
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: from ADCC, which means that the value of that title

1482
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: this year is not insignificant, but it's certainly not going

1483
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: to be what it once was. I don't see how

1484
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 1: they take kindly to that.

1485
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I really do a lot of things that

1486
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 3: have found a lot of people. But it's basically I'm

1487
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 3: giving the athletes a choice, giving them a choice, giving

1488
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 3: them another platform. You know, they're free to make that decision.

1489
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 3: Other events out there sometimes forget to get guys on contracts.

1490
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 3: So it left a bit of a void in the

1491
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 3: market that I could do something like this because I

1492
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 3: would think I would imagine, no matter what industry it is,

1493
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 3: if you were putting on an event and investing potentially

1494
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 3: millions of dollars in it, the stars of that show

1495
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 3: or should probably come into a contract.

1496
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,439
Speaker 1: That's just me and the investor is who.

1497
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you really want to know, I've

1498
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 3: got my fingers in a lot of things. So one

1499
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 3: of the things I've been developing engineering, if you will,

1500
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 3: is reinventing sunglasses. I want you to see if you

1501
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 3: guys can identify the special feature built into this.

1502
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 2: You think it's cocaine.

1503
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: Is this like an X ray thing?

1504
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 5: No?

1505
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 3: No, no, it's not the lenses. But you were on the

1506
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 3: you were on the right track.

1507
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: Oh oh wow, let me see, let me see.

1508
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta you gotta find where he where

1509
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 2: he hides the heroin in those luke.

1510
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 3: Have you guys ever needed both sunglasses and a little

1511
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 3: spoon at the same time.

1512
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 1: Wait, I don't see it. This is a oh so

1513
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 1: you can.

1514
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. As an athlete, I have to monitor my sugar

1515
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 3: intag and I wouldn't want to have two biggest tag there.

1516
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 2: I mean, that is just so good.

1517
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 1: We gave you a great lower third there.

1518
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 3: If you can enthusiast, that's for sure. That's representing Marathona.

1519
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 3: I take a page, Honor Madona right here.

1520
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: Why can't you tell me who the investor is? What? Why?

1521
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 3: Because anyone that gets money gets us for money. Anyone

1522
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 3: that has money gets us some money.

1523
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 2: Okay, Al thinks it's at Zuck.

1524
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's getting a lot of credit for this ship.

1525
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 3: You better put some money in.

1526
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: So it's not him.

1527
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 3: It's not Zuck.

1528
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 1: Okay, have you talked to him about this?

1529
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 3: I actually haven't spoken something about it. Okay, but I

1530
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 3: should maybe throw.

1531
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: I mean a million to that guy.

1532
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 2: Is he's going to make himself compete in it like

1533
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 2: Fox Cutcher style, though.

1534
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 3: That would be cause I throw it to him. You

1535
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 3: know he invested in If he invested, who cares?

1536
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: At this point, right he was asking me if you're

1537
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: the best grappler in the world, and I was trying

1538
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: to be like reverential. But I don't think that's I mean,

1539
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: I can say.

1540
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 2: That what should be said about your grappling reputation?

1541
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 3: Listen, that's what I tell women, and I believe it,

1542
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 3: and that's the story I'm thinking to who's the best

1543
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 3: grapp in the world?

1544
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 4: No? What?

1545
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 2: What? What do you think you should be called? And

1546
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 2: when we're when we're when we're trying to present in

1547
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 2: one sentence what you mean to grapple.

1548
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 3: I represent myself like a lot of only fans models do.

1549
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 3: I'm a young.

1550
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: Entrepreneur selling that buttthole.

1551
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 3: I'll sell anything, you know, obviously, we sell the spoons,

1552
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 3: we sell the body, we sell underwear. Whatever it takes

1553
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 3: you push the sport forward. I used to be here,

1554
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 3: some last company make one with a bong in it,

1555
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 3: because Luke would be all over there vape at the end.

1556
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 3: You know that would be nice. Yeah, I mean it's.

1557
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 2: Vape, the other kind of itch the.

1558
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: That's all.

1559
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 3: You could use the spring for them. Yeah, there you go.

1560
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 3: I just wouldn't use it.

1561
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,439
Speaker 1: When's the next big announcement about who you got coming

1562
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 1: in the tournament?

1563
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 3: Uh? I was actually just speaking to a big Brazilian

1564
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 3: just now on the phone. I can't confirm me splash

1565
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 3: bigot silver. Yes, I mean it could be No, I

1566
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 3: don't know. I'm speaking of guys now. We're trying to

1567
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 3: like paste the announcements. But in the last today, yesterday,

1568
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 3: I've secured a legend of the past and today probably

1569
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 3: a future legend.

1570
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 1: Can you tell us who the legend of the past is?

1571
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 3: Badly not?

1572
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: When you say past, how far back are we talking?

1573
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 3: Still active? But not in jiu jitsu?

1574
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: Well that sounds like Demi and Maya.

1575
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 3: To me, it's not. But I want there's not too

1576
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 3: many guesses I'll give you that you're on the right track.

1577
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 1: I've been curious to see if he would ever get

1578
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 1: back into it. I would love to. I mean, I

1579
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 1: don't know you. If it's on the table, maybe Hickson

1580
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: by arm bar, maybe Hixon's got Parkinson.

1581
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 2: I'll take that back. I'll just Why is.

1582
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: It Freddy Roast taking any celebrity boxing matches?

1583
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 3: I don't know why?

1584
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 2: Why go back to the caffeated water.

1585
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 1: You used to live in New York, right? Yeah?

1586
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 3: I lived here for maybe two years, trained at the

1587
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 3: Blue Basement.

1588
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 1: Where did you live in New York?

1589
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,959
Speaker 3: I lived around. I was in holem for a while,

1590
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 3: I was in Brooklyn for a while, and I ultimately

1591
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 3: ended up over in Hoboken.

1592
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: Okay, great in New York. One to turn?

1593
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 2: What is that?

1594
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: One? Fucking get the fuck out?

1595
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 3: One, Get the fuck I'm trying to. I hate this

1596
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 3: last night.

1597
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it's thirty as ship that's feces every single

1598
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: time we go to the.

1599
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 3: How do you identify it that it's human?

1600
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 4: Good?

1601
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 3: How do you know so well that it's human?

1602
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: Okay, I can't guarantee it, but the amount is so

1603
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: copious it would have to be a giant, ggantic dog.

1604
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 3: The flag of the texture of the s. I don't know, it's.

1605
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 1: It's just the amount. Why didn't you like New York?

1606
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 3: There's too many people here, you know. I like a

1607
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 3: quiet like I'm trying to slave behind those people of

1608
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 3: screaming at me.

1609
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 2: You know, That's why I'm in New York suburb it's

1610
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 2: called Connecticut. I'm just gonna got to get away a

1611
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 2: little bit, Luke.

1612
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: That is the FEC.

1613
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, lives in like downtown d C.

1614
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 1: Like, you're right to live downtown kind of. I can't

1615
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: afford downtown. No, I don't live downtown. It's very expensive.

1616
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 3: You need an anonymous million dollar dyna liket me the dam.

1617
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: We got to talk to that guy because I want

1618
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 1: to get the funk out. It'd be great, it'd be nice.

1619
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 1: All right. So let's talk a little bit more about

1620
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 1: this tournament. So you we saw you on Aerial Show

1621
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: and there was an issue about whether or not you

1622
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 1: were going to have a match with Gabby Garcia, which

1623
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: is the most Jesus was that resolved? Yeah, don Dale,

1624
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 1: So there's no, she's not doing ADCC not doing okay.

1625
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: And by the way, contractually, if you do the c

1626
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 1: G I you're contractually forbidden j c J. Excuse me,

1627
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: c J. I you're contractually forbidden from doing ADCC.

1628
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 3: Oh, you just couldn't do any other and then that

1629
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 3: could potentially interfere with.

1630
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 1: Out of it, I see. Just from a calendar perspective.

1631
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, from a calendar probably, I mean usually do like

1632
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 3: a two week window, four week window before, but realistically

1633
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 3: for the big events, no athletes going to try and

1634
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 3: compete close Like, no one would compete two weeks before

1635
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 3: AIDYCC historically because they might risk injury for ADYCC.

1636
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 1: Have the guys from Dana Her message you about this

1637
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 1: at all?

1638
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 3: I mean we're not on talking terms, you know, like yeah,

1639
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 3: but you guys.

1640
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 1: Are always talking about each other on social media. That's

1641
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: actually not quite true, right.

1642
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 3: Well, unfortunately it's one way traffic. They stopped talking about me.

1643
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 3: Well they did, but I can't help myself. I can

1644
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 3: not help myself.

1645
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,759
Speaker 1: But so none of them, like not even the satellite

1646
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 1: people have commented about any of this.

1647
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 3: No, and that's probably concerning, you know, like plotting something.

1648
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 3: You know, they should turn something my way. I mean,

1649
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 3: obviously Gordon's busy. It's hard regrigitating Fox News articles every

1650
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 3: three minutes. You know, that's not easy. That takes time.

1651
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 3: Effident thought.

1652
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 2: That man battled serious health scares. I think he still

1653
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 2: is RH Yeah.

1654
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's his status? Do you know? I don't know.

1655
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 1: Is he still doing ADYCC.

1656
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 3: He's still doing ADYCC. Yeah. I think he's doing Superfi

1657
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 3: and something else allegedly. I mean, obviously I'm out of

1658
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 3: a lave. Yeah, I don't ask me my opinion.

1659
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 1: Clearly, if Moe Jasum, who is the guy who basically

1660
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: is behind ADYCC, if he hit you up for a meeting,

1661
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 1: would you take it?

1662
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 3: I would want to do it in public. You know.

1663
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 3: He keeps fading like, hey, let's make let's talk privately.

1664
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, why, Obviously this is an issue for the

1665
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:25,879
Speaker 3: fans and the athletes.

1666
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 2: Look, we care in here. If you can get Mo

1667
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 2: down here.

1668
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: I messaged him today, all right, Yeah, we'll see how

1669
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 1: that goes. I don't know.

1670
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 3: Messing for a statement. Now he wants to do it privately.

1671
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, I've got nothing if I can talk about privately,

1672
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 3: let's just eric to the fans.

1673
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 1: Is this like a On the one hand, the message

1674
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: of c CJI is like, let's uplift, let's promote the sport,

1675
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 1: let's get some money. And I think everyone in that sense,

1676
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 1: especially because it's just disrupting the order, is really very intrigued.

1677
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I guess I'm just sort

1678
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:59,839
Speaker 1: of wondering. I don't know how to word this exactly.

1679
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:02,799
Speaker 1: I'm kind of trying to figure out. Are you trying

1680
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 1: to get the power bakers on your side? Are you

1681
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: trying to get them to bend to a greater will

1682
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

1683
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 5: Like?

1684
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,560
Speaker 1: Are you does that make sense? Like you're trying to

1685
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: get them to because ultimately what you want is ADCC

1686
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 1: to raise the amount of.

1687
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 3: That's all I wanted from day one when I started

1688
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 3: complaining to athlete bab That's all I wanted. There's some

1689
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 3: better treatment for the athletes.

1690
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 1: How do you feel like jiu jitsu athletes are in

1691
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 1: terms of fighting or advocating or acting in a way

1692
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 1: where they can improve their own pay? Obviously, you're leading

1693
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 1: by example so present company notwithstanding, do you feel like

1694
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,679
Speaker 1: jiu jitsu athletes care about these things?

1695
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 3: And they can, but they have no leverage, you know

1696
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 3: what I mean? They should have never given me any

1697
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 3: power at Oh, it's like I'm going to take that

1698
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 3: rum with it and try to make this woil better

1699
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 3: for everyone else. But if you're like an undercat guy,

1700
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 3: if you're not a draw, if you don't have a following,

1701
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 3: what are you gonna do criticize power structures, You're just

1702
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 3: gonna get pushed out. That's like only people that talking

1703
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 3: to this.

1704
01:11:58,160 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 2: So it was your goal that a year from now,

1705
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,799
Speaker 2: the same weekend that you're targeting, that you're back competing

1706
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 2: head to head with ADCC, or that you won the

1707
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 2: battle you're trying to fight this year and you're competing

1708
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,759
Speaker 2: at ADCC. But for more for bigger persons.

1709
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 3: Well, they do every two years. We want to do

1710
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 3: it every year, you know, Like we'll see how the

1711
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 3: cookie cumbos whether in two years we end up on

1712
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 3: the same day. We don't have to, you know, but

1713
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 3: like we want to do.

1714
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 2: But you want this to be a thing every year,

1715
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 2: This will be this will become the elite event.

1716
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 3: That's the that's the intent is to do it every year.

1717
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 3: So we go funding for this one. Obviously the fund

1718
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 3: is happy to continue this going depending on the success

1719
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 3: of this one. But the goal isn't just to take

1720
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 3: a massive loss and disrupt the industry like I family

1721
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 3: believe that if you can sell out Team Mobile and

1722
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 3: get massive streaming rights, you can secure a sponsors. You

1723
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 3: could do it in a way that's more beneficial to

1724
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:47,959
Speaker 3: the athletes involved.

1725
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 1: What does fair page you just do look like.

1726
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 3: A free meal. It'll get those Yeah.

1727
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 1: Ten grand is not a lot.

1728
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 2: So you're so for a layman like me, you're saying

1729
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 2: every two years the super of grappling, the winner gets

1730
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 2: ten grand.

1731
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, people don't know that.

1732
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 2: Does Dana White run that? Seriously? I was gonna ask

1733
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 2: if Dana White was the benefact I see the guy supplied.

1734
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 1: But in fairness though, it wasn't like long ago ADCC

1735
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 1: when they went to China. That's when you had the

1736
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 1: Gary and then the racing matches, and then they were

1737
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 1: in Finland. I think sometime around that as well. It's

1738
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 1: only recently where they really begin to bump up the

1739
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 1: way in which it has looked. So is the argument like,

1740
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: okay before at that time, when they were doing Finland,

1741
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: when they were doing China, which looked like it was

1742
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 1: in a high school gymnasium for all intents and purposes,

1743
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 1: maybe there really wasn't a whole lot of money back then.

1744
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 1: But now you're saying things have changed, now we're in

1745
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:40,679
Speaker 1: a different place.

1746
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 3: Well, sure things have changed. Like my first ADCC was

1747
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen in a basketball corps. My last one was

1748
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 3: in a sold out Thomas evanc You know what I mean,

1749
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:51,679
Speaker 3: So slack that's of a four events and athlete pay

1750
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 3: compensation hasn't changed. It's like if we're contributing to selling

1751
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 3: out the arena, Like I get paid more than the

1752
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 3: guy that runs the hotel.

1753
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 1: The contracts for ADECC are they restrictive?

1754
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:04,480
Speaker 3: No contracts?

1755
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 1: So how does it work when you compete ADCC? How

1756
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:08,679
Speaker 1: do you get an invite?

1757
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 3: You get an invite? Yeah, you say a man take

1758
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 3: carry a fly.

1759
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 1: I don't sign anything.

1760
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 3: No, I mean you've got a massive obstacle that most

1761
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 3: grapless conrade.

1762
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not gonna that's a hurdle. That's a hurdle.

1763
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 1: But in all seriousness, this whole fucking thing, the Olympics

1764
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 1: of jiu Jitsu is a fucking handshake deal. Yeah yeah,

1765
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 1: if that, you know, it's like, holy ship balls, I

1766
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:35,719
Speaker 1: had no idea.

1767
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 2: Well that's why I like that. You're that you're going

1768
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 2: against Gabby and you're bringing the inter gender into this

1769
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 2: because you know, I'm a boxing guy. So when I

1770
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:43,759
Speaker 2: think of competitives.

1771
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 1: Andy Kaufman for that championsh I gotta go to.

1772
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 2: My local gym and get behind a guy like this

1773
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 2: and roll with him in the in the spoon position

1774
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 2: for three hours. I'd rather do it with beautiful women.

1775
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 2: So I think you're opening up.

1776
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 1: Oh that is a sex crime what you're describing. I mean,

1777
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: you're straight up. I want to go to James. I

1778
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 1: can molest women.

1779
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 2: So in all seriousness, like, hype up this this super

1780
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 2: fight main event you against Gabby because I'm fired up, like,

1781
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 2: what's this going to look like?

1782
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 3: What's it gonna look like? It's gonna be.

1783
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 2: Very inside of sex crime jokes? What is this going

1784
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 2: to look like?

1785
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 3: It's gonna be very dominant. I'm obviously gonna take some

1786
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:19,759
Speaker 3: PDS for I think for a woman of that caliber,

1787
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 3: probably twenty milligrams of Siala should get the top done.

1788
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I'll put my body on

1789
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 3: the line make sure one of us gets finished. If

1790
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 3: it's me to be early. If it's her, probably take

1791
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 3: a bit at a time.

1792
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:33,719
Speaker 1: What does she? What? What is? How would you describe

1793
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:35,520
Speaker 1: your relationship with Gabby.

1794
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 3: Combative, really love hate relationship. Yeah, whenever a video cool

1795
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,600
Speaker 3: that she pulls out a butt blugs. They look like

1796
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 3: they wouldn't touch the thuds, but she pulls them out anyway.

1797
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 2: You know, Oh my god, the censors are probably our

1798
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 2: boss right now.

1799
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 1: Our boss right now was running theater to get.

1800
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 3: The Yeah, I would say, it's very the size and

1801
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 3: shape of the microphone series.

1802
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 1: Like do you guys friendly?

1803
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we're friends for sure, you know, but like

1804
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 3: obviously come judgment day, it's gonna be some.

1805
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 1: When you came to her with this idea, what does

1806
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 1: she tell you?

1807
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 3: You remember, I mean it was two and a half

1808
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 3: years ago. There's been a lot of building up to this,

1809
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 3: but she's into it. She loves it.

1810
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 1: What was the stronger broke the camel's back? Just the

1811
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 1: pay that you were offering for her, because she's not

1812
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:23,600
Speaker 1: she's not doing the actual invitational, she's just having a

1813
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 1: super fight with you. Correct, exactly what are you paying her?

1814
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: Can I ask? I can't say, Oh fuck, this whole

1815
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 1: thing is about, you know.

1816
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:34,600
Speaker 2: Changing the game transparency.

1817
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:36,719
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna say something else then.

1818
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 2: Also drug also that there's another Yeah, you're talking about

1819
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 2: Bangkok and as you've seen have you seen his videos? Yes?

1820
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 1: Yes? What did she making?

1821
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 3: I can't say, you know it's it's it's between. I

1822
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 3: may have promised her six figures. I may have promised

1823
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 3: us some sexual fabulus in return and taking the match

1824
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 3: win You.

1825
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 2: Okay with these comments, because I mean I'm laughing aggressively here,

1826
01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 2: but also fearfully.

1827
01:16:58,800 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 3: You should be afraid.

1828
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: Jiu jitsu doesn't have an HR department, but we do.

1829
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying a different rules. Let's just

1830
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 3: say I'm coming down to the matt space in a

1831
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 3: white tank top with a cigarette in my mouth, ready

1832
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 3: to fight a one.

1833
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about some of the rulest.

1834
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 2: With with with what like a G string on basically yeah, well,

1835
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:18,600
Speaker 2: I mean that's a red panty knight for me.

1836
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 3: You know I sent a long one.

1837
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 2: Well hold on because you know it would be a

1838
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 2: joke for me to ask you about the drug testing.

1839
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 2: But are you willing to go the other the extreme

1840
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 2: way where when the fight, when the grappler appears to perform,

1841
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 2: you will show on the bottom of the screen everything

1842
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 2: he did take.

1843
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 3: I would love to know what they're on for Gabby

1844
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 3: we're both gonna drug test in STD check before the match,

1845
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 3: just for an extra layer of safety.

1846
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 1: Wow. There, I can't believe.

1847
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 2: I mean a single I could have done that, but

1848
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 2: maybe sheep through. You'd never know.

1849
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 3: That's a double bag.

1850
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 1: Double backing jokes in college. All right, let's talk about

1851
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 1: some of the rules. First thing, the fighting surface. You're

1852
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,799
Speaker 1: calling it the alley because it has the angled sides.

1853
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 1: How big is the flat surface? How much does it cover? Oh?

1854
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 3: I mean total thirty by four, so it's pretty long.

1855
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 1: Okay, that's pretty big. And then the explain to me

1856
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,679
Speaker 1: how this one is not I realized that the inspiration

1857
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 1: came from karate combat, but you can't be taking their

1858
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 1: exact gimmick, right, So how was this one different at all?

1859
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 3: I mean length, size, shape, as much as we can.

1860
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:19,680
Speaker 3: You know, they obviously inspired us, but we're doing there

1861
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 3: was ding ding ding did ding ding.

1862
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 1: We're seeing this. Vanilla is explaining how he didn't take from.

1863
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 3: I haven't seen it now, but I might need his

1864
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 3: legal defense pretty close.

1865
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:35,679
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, all right, So is this is the mats?

1866
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 1: Are they elevated in any way?

1867
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 3: No, it's this is what we're working on now. We're

1868
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 3: meant to drop tickets today. But actually, because if you

1869
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 3: think about it, like anything with an angled wall, if

1870
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 3: we put it for ground floor seating, you're looking at

1871
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 3: the angled wall. That's why people always do elevated stage

1872
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 3: or they'll do mats just on the ground. It's boy

1873
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 3: easier seating. We have to put the alley, we have

1874
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 3: to build a stage around it. The ground floor of

1875
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 3: the Thomas and Max. We could put those extra close seats.

1876
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 3: They can actually see what's going on.

1877
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 1: You're gonna put celebrities there in jiu jitsu celebrities.

1878
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 3: Sir, I think. I mean, yeah, if there are.

1879
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 2: Like the next game, there's Spike Lee, there's Tom Brady

1880
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 2: goes to power slap.

1881
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I forgot dude. You got to get

1882
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: some of the power slap guys.

1883
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 3: That's true. Maybe me and Gabi will turn into power slap.

1884
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 3: That could be the other time.

1885
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 1: What are the rules for that one? It's the same

1886
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 1: as the rest of the invitational.

1887
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 3: H it is this? Yeah, it's basically three by five

1888
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 3: minute rounds. I mean we'll do open scoring score around

1889
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 3: by rounds. They know where they're at. We're trying to

1890
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 3: steal MMA fans.

1891
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 1: It's best, so open scoring and MMA, I hate open

1892
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 1: scoring and jiu jitsu. I have no problem with it

1893
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 1: all because everything is well. You can do it a

1894
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: points based way that doesn't totally ruin the sport the

1895
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 1: ten point must system part I gotta tell you I

1896
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 1: don't like MMA. Fans hate the ten point must system.

1897
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 1: So it's a little bit unusual for me that you've

1898
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 1: picked it obviously is an adapted version of it. But

1899
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 1: you will have judges, correct judges. Yeah, how does that work?

1900
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 3: We'll have three judges and basically they'll school of dominance

1901
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 3: of the round, you know what I mean. So say

1902
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 3: hypothetically it's a four point difference in an Iverage Jeff

1903
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 3: match or something like that. We can say that a

1904
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 3: pretty dominant round, like a tight round you must finish

1905
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 3: a guy and dominate him. Could be a ten to

1906
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:13,680
Speaker 3: seven something close to And.

1907
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 1: Who's gonna judge, because you would need people that know

1908
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: what the fuck is up to.

1909
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 3: Do that when negotiating right now, But it is in

1910
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 3: good hands, I will say that, but probably yeah, judge it.

1911
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 3: He would be good.

1912
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, anybody these famous people or these like you know,

1913
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:30,680
Speaker 1: like a like a Shallon Herbert who's like you know,

1914
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 1: not well known but well respected.

1915
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 3: I can't they just yeah, these things are working. These

1916
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:37,600
Speaker 3: things are working. Fust you know what I mean. Like

1917
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 3: I've been I've been busy. I've been busy. I'll tell

1918
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 3: you what I've been up on.

1919
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 2: Nine sleep sleep.

1920
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 1: Is there going to be three judges or how many

1921
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:49,639
Speaker 1: judges total are you hiring?

1922
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:51,839
Speaker 3: I think just three? Yeah, three judges.

1923
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: So how many matches are going to go on simultaneously?

1924
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 3: Just one matter at a time. So we'll have a

1925
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,640
Speaker 3: biggert tam but just one mat so some of the

1926
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 3: biggest multiple mats you left, I can't keep up. So

1927
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 3: we because we're doing less divisions than the other tournament.

1928
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:06,759
Speaker 3: We just want one matt.

1929
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 1: H where's it gonna air?

1930
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 3: Free on YouTube?

1931
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: Free on YouTube.

1932
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 3: We've had people, we've had streaming office, but I want

1933
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 3: it free on YouTube to see how many of youers

1934
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:18,440
Speaker 3: grappling does get obviously.

1935
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 1: No obstructions, only use the internet connection and that's.

1936
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 3: It exactly, that's what we want. We want to see.

1937
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 3: We want to get that information and obviously leverage it

1938
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 3: against other streaming.

1939
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 2: Providers on cell phones or you have a full team.

1940
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 1: This is going to do the actual production work.

1941
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 3: That's a question from my business behind. But we have

1942
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 3: a team in place. Everything's smoothing super fast. We're gonna ask.

1943
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:40,440
Speaker 2: Guys, the guys from browsers or actually gonna.

1944
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have a go pro. It's gonna be p

1945
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 3: ov A for Gabby. The other way arount us fired?

1946
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 1: Can your investors save us?

1947
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 3: For I can't make any promises. You can come into

1948
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 3: the sunglass and.

1949
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 2: Craig, you've blown up in the space that I view

1950
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,440
Speaker 2: the world through, which is like m M a Instagram,

1951
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 2: like you've.

1952
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,640
Speaker 1: Crossed over and obviously you have a women's instagram in

1953
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:03,679
Speaker 1: particular you have you.

1954
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 2: Have like tangibly crossed over in MMA or you're Alex

1955
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:11,600
Speaker 2: Volkanowski's grappling coach, and grappling is MMA adjacent in a

1956
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 2: lot of ways, But like, are you aiming to be

1957
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:19,639
Speaker 2: a major player in this sort of UFC social media window.

1958
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 3: I'll ride the coattails of whoever will let me. Basically,

1959
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 3: I'll work with whoever to make a contribution to grappling.

1960
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, I'm telling you is.

1961
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 2: About the love of the of the art and the craft.

1962
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 2: That's that's all it is. I mean clearly I'm fighting

1963
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 2: a woman. It is about the love of the game,

1964
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:40,560
Speaker 2: and I will do anything to guy this one pure sportsman.

1965
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 1: That is really what this all comes down. How do

1966
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 1: you see yourself? Seriously, how do you see yourself? How

1967
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 1: do you explain when people meet you for the first time?

1968
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:49,719
Speaker 1: How do you explain who you are and what you do? Oh?

1969
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 3: That's good. I mean I'm just making memes. I think

1970
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 3: you know I'm making an EDGEB I'm a I'm a

1971
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 3: real life name.

1972
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 1: No, but you're a guy who competed because you can't

1973
01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 1: out of nor I remember the first ADECC were like,

1974
01:22:57,920 --> 01:22:59,839
Speaker 1: who the fuck is Craig Jones? And he was beating everybody,

1975
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 1: And then you've turned into like a really good grappler.

1976
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 1: You made I think a decent living for what I

1977
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 1: can tell from the instructional side. You obviously have part

1978
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 1: of a famous gym, but now you're it seems like

1979
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 1: on to obviously something different a little bit. This is

1980
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 1: sort of an You've always been kind of a jokester.

1981
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 1: You have the Mountain Dudes thing, the B team gear,

1982
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 1: all that stuff, but it's a little different now. I

1983
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 1: feel like you've a for example, all the places you're traveling.

1984
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 1: When I first hit you up, You're like, I'm in Bali,

1985
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm in Kiev. It's just it. It does seem like

1986
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,440
Speaker 1: you've kind of moved on from that sort of secondary.

1987
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 2: Somebody is laundering money through you, and I'm here for it.

1988
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 1: It's great.

1989
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 3: I mean, we go to secure funding, a place that

1990
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 3: you can go to. I was just in Ukraine, give anyway,

1991
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 3: missiles over there and Iran's mine. That's all we can

1992
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 3: find tournaments like this.

1993
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 1: How much pushback did you get for going to Ukraine

1994
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:46,720
Speaker 1: from the jiu jitsu community which scu.

1995
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously I wasn't popular in Russia to begin

1996
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 3: with because of the Islam Makachev jugs, but that definitely

1997
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 3: pushed it over the edge.

1998
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 1: I think, have you have you heard like you're not

1999
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 1: popular in Russia? You're just doing a bit?

2000
01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 3: No, I mean the messages I get, the death threats

2001
01:23:59,560 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 3: I give.

2002
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 1: You know, one time I had this was what fight

2003
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 1: was this? I can't remember, but I had Colby Covington

2004
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 1: come through a studio and oh this was right after

2005
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 1: he was like all you Brazilians are filthy animals, blah blah.

2006
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 1: I remember that one he showed me his phone. This

2007
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 1: fucker was scrolling I'm not kidding for like five minutes,

2008
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 1: death threat after death threat in Portuguese, just all the

2009
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 1: way down.

2010
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 3: At least you can't read him.

2011
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 2: It's got the translated button, a few bear boobs and

2012
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 2: other things in there.

2013
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:30,600
Speaker 3: I would look at it the way if it's in

2014
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 3: another language, I just assume it's positive. A motherfuck. They're

2015
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 3: say not things about me.

2016
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. The middle fingers really give it away, you know.

2017
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 2: Like you've made a for as hilarious as you are,

2018
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 2: and you're almost this ambassador slash mascot of grappling, and

2019
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 2: now you're a promoter, like you made significant contributions in

2020
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 2: the evolution of MMA grappling, Like that's a true fact.

2021
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 2: You in Volkanovsky's corner and the great team he already has.

2022
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 2: How he leveled up in that first matchup fight like

2023
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 2: it was we remember talking about it like it was shocking.

2024
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 2: I remember, you're able to kind of pump your chest.

2025
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 2: Do you do I don't know, do you do that often?

2026
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 2: And be like, yeah, man, I was a big part

2027
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 2: of helping that guy deal with the with the toughest

2028
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 2: wrestler in the world.

2029
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't take too much credit for personally

2030
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,679
Speaker 3: publicly to sell instruction as I do. And I used

2031
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 3: you talking about it to put it into a commercial

2032
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 3: to sell mine strug. You just put it all on me.

2033
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 3: I was like, I'll take it, I'll take it, I'll

2034
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 3: sell it.

2035
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 2: Did you make more for being in a mister favors

2036
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:26,799
Speaker 2: Weed movie or for being in his commercial?

2037
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 1: I made nothing for.

2038
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 3: And we still have a pad now. But I really

2039
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 3: just did the best I could.

2040
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2041
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously Volk's talented to begin with. You know,

2042
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 3: like I couldn't just take anyone.

2043
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 2: And you saw something you had the right guy to

2044
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 2: execute it. But it seems like you were adding something

2045
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 2: significant to the m M A grappling space. Do you

2046
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 2: see it as that or do you just see it

2047
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:49,719
Speaker 2: as how can I help each guy that that I putect?

2048
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's hard to truly say what you're

2049
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:55,680
Speaker 3: responsible for because he's out there doing it, you know

2050
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:57,600
Speaker 3: what I mean. It's like kind of taking what he

2051
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 3: already does and trying to make adjustments in any I can,

2052
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 3: rather than being like, oh, we're gonna try this whole

2053
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 3: new move with this, so I'm already just trying to

2054
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 3: help what he's already doing.

2055
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 2: But are you watching UFC fights on the regular going,

2056
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 2: I see how I could help elevate that guy. I

2057
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 2: see how much maybe they're not thinking about this side

2058
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:16,720
Speaker 2: of grappling and jiu jitsu into this, into implementing it

2059
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 2: to the game.

2060
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 3: I mean, most of the time I watch it as

2061
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 3: a fan. Gott to steal moves. Those guys got to

2062
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 3: see what I can steal.

2063
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you're doing a bit here, But I do

2064
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 1: want to interject because one of the things that I

2065
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 1: have got from you, that is in every story is

2066
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 1: going to be different part of what you do. I've

2067
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 1: seen Balls of the Wall. I've seen, by the way,

2068
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:35,639
Speaker 1: half of his instructions just sound like gay porn. I mean,

2069
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 1: you know, balls to the wall, two guys fucking I

2070
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 1: mean these are the names of Greig Jones's instructionals.

2071
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:44,640
Speaker 3: Accusations, accusations, weep.

2072
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, But in all seriousness, every time I watch it,

2073
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 1: there's a consistent thread which is something gay. This guy

2074
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 1: is gay. But no, it's in all seriousness, it's jiu

2075
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 1: jitsu has been doing things this way for a long time.

2076
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 1: Here's why so much much of this is wrong. Here's

2077
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 1: a better way to do it. And I do feel

2078
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 1: like that has kind of whether it's just you or

2079
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 1: you and the Dan, the Dan hurt new wave guys,

2080
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 1: give them predit to whoever. There's just been this idea

2081
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 1: of like we we should rethink Turtle, we should rethink

2082
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 1: Octopus Guard, we should rethink, rethink.

2083
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 2: Doing sixty nine at all. I'm sorry North South at all.

2084
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, which he has shown can

2085
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 1: be a pins I remember that from the balls of

2086
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 1: the Wall instruction. All right, So I'm just sort of

2087
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 1: pointing out, don't you feel like there's a little bit

2088
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 1: of that that you are, at least at a bare

2089
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 1: minimum associated with.

2090
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you got to try to challenge the

2091
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 3: status quo. I'd rather try and find a new way

2092
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 3: to beat people at their game than well, I see

2093
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 3: a new way to contribute to the game that they're

2094
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 3: not prepared for, rather than beat them at their own game.

2095
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 3: That's what I tried to do when I came into

2096
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 3: jiu jitsu. I was like, how can I beat people

2097
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 3: that are better than me? And leglocks was the first path.

2098
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 3: And I still try to find those short cuts now,

2099
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 3: and you've got to sort of challenge the status quo

2100
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 3: to do that?

2101
01:27:58,160 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 1: What is Let me let me ask you, since again

2102
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 1: the big thing I got from you was pinning right, Like,

2103
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 1: just learned a lot from watching your instructionals. Did catch

2104
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:07,640
Speaker 1: wrestling kind of have it right? I don't necessarily mean

2105
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 1: with like let's put a thumb in the eye and like,

2106
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 1: you know, paying submissions rather than like you know, limb

2107
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 1: brakes or strangles, But they kind of had it right

2108
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 1: to an extent did they not?

2109
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:17,640
Speaker 5: But what what? What did?

2110
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:19,679
Speaker 1: What did cat wrestling get right? What did it get wrong?

2111
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I do love trolling. They take themselves, they

2112
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 3: get very very upset. I was gonna bring out instruction

2113
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,640
Speaker 3: in one time called cat trestling moves that work and

2114
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 3: when people press play nothing, it's.

2115
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:36,600
Speaker 2: Just it's you urinating, just takaha that now.

2116
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know too much about cat tressing.

2117
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 3: I've trained with cat wrestling guys. I think they just

2118
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 3: not restrained by the rule systems we work in today.

2119
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 3: So it's like, I feel like we'd come to the

2120
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 3: same conclusions if we had a more broader rule set.

2121
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 1: Right, who has okay aside from yours? Who has the

2122
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 1: best rule set? In in pro grappling. Is it the

2123
01:28:57,760 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 1: fight Pacivitational? People seem to love that.

2124
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 3: It's good. I mean for me personally, I would just

2125
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 3: try to pick a role set I can beat an

2126
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 3: opponent in exploit that, you know, I just try to

2127
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 3: exploit the role set, So everything strategy based. I'm like,

2128
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 3: all right, they want me to face this opponent, how

2129
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 3: can I change the rules to make it easier for me?

2130
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 3: So I don't even think about there's one best roleset.

2131
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 3: I just try to exploit the roll set on off

2132
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 3: the opponents.

2133
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:20,680
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Emma a little bit because I know

2134
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 1: you want to get to this the well, what was

2135
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 1: the game plan if it went to the ground? Obviously

2136
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 1: there are going to be scenario based, right, but what

2137
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 1: was the game plan for Ortega to the extent that

2138
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 1: you were involved in that one? Because I think you

2139
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 1: were there for the full camp for that one.

2140
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:37,719
Speaker 3: That one I trained with him aton on Oldermate Fighter

2141
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 3: and then we did some videos, but I was only

2142
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 3: there fight week I think for that was that right?

2143
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 1: Okay to change videos? Okay, Nevertheless, did you guys discuss that,

2144
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 1: Like what what were you there to do specifically for him?

2145
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:51,679
Speaker 3: I mean just submission defense because I already knew obviously

2146
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 3: we're on older my fighter for six weeks. We already

2147
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 3: knew that that fight was coming, so we were already

2148
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 3: thinking about what submissions he's good at, how we could

2149
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,599
Speaker 3: defend against him, and basically putting in the prep then

2150
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 3: and then he would draw them. Threw those style of

2151
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 3: escapes all the time in the lead up. Did he

2152
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 3: did he drill mounted villotine, We did the kipping escape,

2153
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:11,720
Speaker 3: and he kind of used that to get out of

2154
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 3: the gilloteam but still I don't know how he got

2155
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 3: out of it. For the public at large, I sold

2156
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 3: an instruction on how he got out of it, you know,

2157
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 3: but that's ancient history now, you know.

2158
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 1: Uh, Okay, the first Islam fight, what were what was

2159
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 1: the game plan for you?

2160
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 3: I mean just getting out of the leg ride position.

2161
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:30,559
Speaker 3: I mean really worst case scenarios. We have Frank Hickman

2162
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 3: there for the wrestling as well. Some of this is

2163
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 3: going to be definitely wrestling, but I mean just really

2164
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 3: getting out of those bad impositions. I basically tried to

2165
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 3: replicate what he did, and I brought that out in

2166
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 3: an instruction of Islam. Islam and then by trying to

2167
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 3: work out what he does helps you prepare how to

2168
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 3: defend agation.

2169
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 1: Okay, so then what were you trying to solve for

2170
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 1: that Islam does really well? Like, seriously, get me flex

2171
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 1: some knowledge here? What makes Islam proprietary knowledge? Yeah? What

2172
01:30:57,479 --> 01:31:00,599
Speaker 1: makes Islam such a great and dominant em groppler?

2173
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:03,760
Speaker 3: I mean the leg rides. The leg ride's amazing, Like

2174
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:05,600
Speaker 3: he puts himself in positions where you can't put the

2175
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 3: base of your feet on the ground. If you can't

2176
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 3: put the basic feet on your ground, you can't hip

2177
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:12,759
Speaker 3: a scape, you can't do those traditional jiu jitsu style movements.

2178
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 3: What we were working on for Volks is just never

2179
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:17,599
Speaker 3: letting him get to a position where he was flat

2180
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 3: and he would bounce back up and land on an elbow,

2181
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 3: and then we had a strategy to deal with the

2182
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 3: rist ride, like he would turtle out of the rist ride.

2183
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 3: He was always preventing Islam locking the hands or framing

2184
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 3: an elbow in such a way that would be very

2185
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 3: fatiguing for Islam to lock to keep those hands locked.

2186
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:36,919
Speaker 3: So all those types of strategies as well as specific

2187
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 3: submission defense.

2188
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 1: The head in the cage to prevent the back tack right, Yes.

2189
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:44,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Islam did have one crafty counter to

2190
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:46,599
Speaker 3: that where he shifted weights side to side, but yeah,

2191
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 3: he was it was good.

2192
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:52,680
Speaker 2: So you're an opportunistic a guy, an entrepreneur guy. Hilarious too,

2193
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:55,719
Speaker 2: But you did big shit there with the best fighter

2194
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 2: in the world at the time. Does the phone start ringing?

2195
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 2: Are you then going, Okay, how do I take this

2196
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 2: career turn as the featured go to hot coach of

2197
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 2: the moment in the UFC.

2198
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:07,759
Speaker 3: I'm just sorry, brother, I need to do title fights,

2199
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 3: you know.

2200
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 4: Is is that what you said? Well?

2201
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:12,080
Speaker 3: No, I mean that's the only thing I've done because

2202
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:14,679
Speaker 3: I was the last addition to the basically the team

2203
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 3: for the Corner and that was basically specifically for the

2204
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:18,720
Speaker 3: ortago On because that was the first fight I was

2205
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 3: in the corner. So it's like his true corner is

2206
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 3: probably Eugene Joe Lopez Frank Kickman. I was added on

2207
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 3: for that title fight. So like, I'm probably the most

2208
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:30,759
Speaker 3: disposable I think a grappling coach, I can probably provide

2209
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:34,880
Speaker 3: help for certain fights, you know, like I worked a

2210
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 3: little bit with Jack Della for Gilbert Burns. I can

2211
01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 3: take credit for what he did. But we really did

2212
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:41,600
Speaker 3: a little bit. You know, I can help people a

2213
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:44,639
Speaker 3: little bit, but for specific I'm more for specific fights.

2214
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 3: You don't like, I'm fucking holding the bucket for Max Holloway,

2215
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like, I'm not needed for

2216
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 3: every fight, but they give it. They give it to

2217
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:52,599
Speaker 3: me anyway.

2218
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 2: But is this the direction you want to go? I

2219
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:57,679
Speaker 2: mean that does that sell what you're selling the Craig

2220
01:32:57,760 --> 01:32:58,920
Speaker 2: Johnes brand even better?

2221
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 3: I think so, as long as, like I mean, if

2222
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:03,680
Speaker 3: it's a person I like, because I don't do the

2223
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:06,759
Speaker 3: coaching for the money. Obviously it's good for the brands,

2224
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 3: like it's good to grow everything you're doing, But I

2225
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 3: do it just because I'm an MMA fan and or

2226
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 3: I'm good friends the guy I coach, because it's it's

2227
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:18,720
Speaker 3: actually pretty horrible to coach your friends at MMA, because

2228
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 3: it's like it can get really badly and you feel

2229
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 3: a great deal of pressure making sure you don't tell

2230
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 3: him to do the wrong thing.

2231
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 1: Was that was that locker room after the Tuporia fight.

2232
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:30,599
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that was too much fun.

2233
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:33,719
Speaker 3: I mean after the Islam one, the energy was lower.

2234
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:36,200
Speaker 3: It's a little more positive after the Teporio one. But yeah,

2235
01:33:36,240 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 3: I mean it's like it could be on top of

2236
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 3: the world or it's absolutely horrible.

2237
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 2: All right, So you people probably ask you this, you

2238
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:46,639
Speaker 2: probably think about it. The ultimate entrepreneurial thing is let's

2239
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:48,800
Speaker 2: get Craig Jones famous enough where he stumbles into a

2240
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 2: big MMA fight he shouldn't be in. Do you ever

2241
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:53,800
Speaker 2: think about that? Like, what is what would stop you

2242
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:57,720
Speaker 2: with your grappling background from making that transition out? Maybe

2243
01:33:57,760 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 2: a side of drugs and long term contracts, but like

2244
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:02,760
Speaker 2: if tomorrow you signed up for a training camp for

2245
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 2: an m m A fight against an elite, I guess

2246
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:05,679
Speaker 2: we built.

2247
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:07,680
Speaker 3: We've built it into the CGI contract. You know, i'd

2248
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:10,800
Speaker 3: obviously when I destroy Gabby and grappling, I've presented the

2249
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 3: option that we could have a proper five.

2250
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:15,639
Speaker 2: Okay, now let's getting deep intergender. Now that's crossing some lines.

2251
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 1: It's like this is this a are you a promoters?

2252
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:20,439
Speaker 1: This a heye crime? What's happening?

2253
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see how the first one guys like, could

2254
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 2: you Okay, let's say you go in there against tom

2255
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 2: asp butin all tomorrow.

2256
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 3: In an mm A fight, you got to pick the biggest.

2257
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:29,880
Speaker 2: What what would you fight.

2258
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:32,920
Speaker 1: You can make one any five?

2259
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:34,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I could probably one eighty five.

2260
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 2: Okay, So let's say you're going there against a super

2261
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 2: elite guy. Could you not just survive with your jiu jitsu,

2262
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:43,640
Speaker 2: but probably definitely plan a path to victory in your

2263
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 2: eyes if you wanted to.

2264
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:46,760
Speaker 3: I mean it would be it would be tough for

2265
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 3: me to get it done in mm A because I

2266
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:50,680
Speaker 3: don't have a wrestling background and I'm fully reliant on

2267
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:53,160
Speaker 3: getting the guy to the ground. Sure, that's very tough,

2268
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 3: but if the price was right, I'd go in there

2269
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 3: and get knocked out for good show money.

2270
01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 2: You know. So you so for example, because because I

2271
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 2: want I want the cre Jones brand to be like

2272
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:03,160
Speaker 2: the premier brand in the space, because it makes me

2273
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 2: laugh better than anyone. Jake Paul is eventually going to

2274
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:08,640
Speaker 2: make an MMA debut. If if if the if the

2275
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 2: smart Cage picked up the phone and was like.

2276
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's not going to go from fighting Mike

2277
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:12,880
Speaker 1: Tyson to the guy.

2278
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 2: Put I'm creating a scenario where the money would be

2279
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:16,400
Speaker 2: so much.

2280
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 3: That, I mean, forget about the name. If the price

2281
01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 3: is right, I would do fucking anything.

2282
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 4: Wow.

2283
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:25,600
Speaker 1: So you're like, the what's an indecent proposal? Have you

2284
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:26,599
Speaker 1: seen that old ass movie?

2285
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:27,920
Speaker 4: Yes?

2286
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 3: You know, Okay, other players in the might be the husband.

2287
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:39,679
Speaker 2: Figure out how you're wired because you're smart and hilarious

2288
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 2: and ahead of the game and obviously also an athlete

2289
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:45,800
Speaker 2: and can compete. But there's this loose thread through the through.

2290
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 2: Maybe that's the magic of Craig Jones that I can

2291
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 2: never really make the.

2292
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 1: Jokes to confuse you that there's not a lot going

2293
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 1: on there. There's a lot going on.

2294
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 2: There's a lot going on there. It's brilliant, but like,

2295
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 2: do you have an endgame? Do you have something you're building? Tours?

2296
01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:00,280
Speaker 1: We're basically retired from competing to right, Yeah, this is

2297
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 1: something cool. We mean the everything or whatever.

2298
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:03,639
Speaker 2: But I mean, you want to be rich and famous

2299
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:05,840
Speaker 2: every but like, are you building towards something?

2300
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm trying to change the sport right now.

2301
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:10,639
Speaker 3: We actually got some film project projects in the work.

2302
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:12,519
Speaker 3: That's kind of why I've been traveling around so much.

2303
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:15,800
Speaker 3: So we've got a nonprofit five foundation. We're starting that

2304
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:17,840
Speaker 3: by fighting a woman, but we're going to try to

2305
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 3: use this as a platform to uh get these documentaries

2306
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 3: out of there.

2307
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying to documentary. Did you make one in Kiev

2308
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 1: or Ukraine?

2309
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 3: Well, well, I'm going back to I'm going back to

2310
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 3: Odessa next week. I think it's next week. Yeah, so

2311
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:31,800
Speaker 3: I'm going back to Ukraine doing some follow up filming

2312
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:34,160
Speaker 3: and stuff. Yeah, obviously challenging filming.

2313
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 1: And are you documenting the jiu jitsu scene in these countries?

2314
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:41,080
Speaker 3: We're trying to do what Bordain did for sort of

2315
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 3: street for both for jiu jitsu.

2316
01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 2: That's interesting.

2317
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:46,400
Speaker 1: But I can't tell if you love jiu jitsu or

2318
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:48,320
Speaker 1: if you hate it, you know what I mean. There's

2319
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 1: a little bit of both with you.

2320
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 3: I mean, there are things I love and hate about it.

2321
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:57,560
Speaker 3: But like, all right, So, like scientology doesn't start with

2322
01:36:57,640 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 3: Plana Zina, they start with Tom Cruise, So for us

2323
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:01,560
Speaker 3: to go to jiu jitsu, we're not gonna start with

2324
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 3: the competitions and the weirdos. We're going to try and

2325
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:05,439
Speaker 3: find interesting people to talk to in the sports.

2326
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:07,640
Speaker 1: Okay, So it sounds to me like you like the

2327
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 1: grassroots part of jiu jitsu, but maybe less so the

2328
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:13,640
Speaker 1: yeah top and all the fun fuck games up there.

2329
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:17,320
Speaker 3: For sure, I love traveling in places where people high

2330
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:19,479
Speaker 3: up in would never go you know, I love.

2331
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:20,720
Speaker 1: That aspect, though, where do you want to go? You

2332
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:22,680
Speaker 1: haven't been well.

2333
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 3: I'm going to Odessa and I'm gonna go to Cursing

2334
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 3: next week, so it might be the end of me,

2335
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 3: but that'll be a Ukraine front line. Go back, get

2336
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:29,720
Speaker 3: my friends out there.

2337
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:33,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, you're a Croissan. That's that's real close to

2338
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:35,559
Speaker 1: the fault lines of the conflict.

2339
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:38,000
Speaker 3: No, that's true. That's why I'll be playing in the tournament.

2340
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:41,080
Speaker 1: From fucking hell. Dude, why is why is Ukraine so

2341
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:43,040
Speaker 1: important to you? I mean, I understand that their situation

2342
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:45,760
Speaker 1: is interesting and unique and these people do need help,

2343
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of people who fit that description,

2344
01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 1: so why are them?

2345
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:49,920
Speaker 3: I know, I get a lot of this, hey, Like

2346
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 3: it's like a lot of obviously free Palestine posts on

2347
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:55,000
Speaker 3: my thing, and it's like, I mean, just because I

2348
01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:57,880
Speaker 3: choose to do something for cancer doesn't mean it's like, hey,

2349
01:37:57,920 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 3: fuck what about hot disease? You know, Like, I get

2350
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:01,200
Speaker 3: a lot of this. It's like trying to tackle one

2351
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:04,240
Speaker 3: thing at a time. Ukraine is a big jiu jitsu base.

2352
01:38:04,479 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 3: Now I've gone over there for a bit of attachment

2353
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:06,759
Speaker 3: to the people.

2354
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 1: You know, how did you get over the first time?

2355
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 1: In other words, like would you invited? Did you go

2356
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 1: on a whim? What happened?

2357
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 3: We were actually filming something in Kazakhstan that went a

2358
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:16,760
Speaker 3: bit us up over there, you know, like you can

2359
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:18,800
Speaker 3: imagine there's a bit of tron wear in Kazakhstan from

2360
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 3: Borat and I might bring some of that out of them.

2361
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:24,760
Speaker 3: So we decided to go to Uh, this.

2362
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:25,599
Speaker 4: Is the end game.

2363
01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 2: Okay, we figured it out.

2364
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 1: This is great.

2365
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 2: This is like the bart stuff.

2366
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:31,639
Speaker 1: You had all the gear on. You were riding horses

2367
01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 1: and ship out there, and that didn't looked like it

2368
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:34,919
Speaker 1: was It was nice cockpile.

2369
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were doing cockspi. That's the name of it.

2370
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 2: Did you say cokepil? Yeah, looks just imagining cockpiling up.

2371
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:44,880
Speaker 1: Get the fuck up ahead.

2372
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 3: Now, I mean we're in Kazakhstan. There's some difficulties, so

2373
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:50,600
Speaker 3: we I'd been invited to Ukraine before, so I was like,

2374
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 3: fuck on a week's notice, I was like, let's do

2375
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:54,840
Speaker 3: a charity event over there. Keep the traveling going. We

2376
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 3: had that time allocated for filming. So we're basically what

2377
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:00,439
Speaker 3: do you And.

2378
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 1: Seems like you were I don't know, moved by the

2379
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 1: experienced some degree, but.

2380
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:07,519
Speaker 3: Sure, I mean, yeah, some of the place I've been

2381
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:09,840
Speaker 3: traveling to, Like obviously you see some stuff that will

2382
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 3: move you put in perspective kind of the priorities in

2383
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:14,560
Speaker 3: your life. But it is good to be in a

2384
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 3: position that I can travel like judit. It gives you

2385
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 3: connections everywhere, like a giant coat stations around the world,

2386
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 3: you know. So it's like, I really doors are open

2387
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:25,120
Speaker 3: everywhere for me around the world. So I'm going to

2388
01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 3: try to exploit those all right, place the wrong word adventure?

2389
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, we talk about drugs.

2390
01:39:30,160 --> 01:39:31,639
Speaker 3: We can talk about drugs, right, Do you have any

2391
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 3: so I didn't.

2392
01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 1: I knew you were taking stuff, And of anyone in

2393
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:40,719
Speaker 1: my line of work, I have the most permissive attitudes

2394
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:42,960
Speaker 1: about that kind of stuff. I am curious. How have

2395
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 1: you not lost your hair with TRT because I'm dying

2396
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:47,320
Speaker 1: to get on it. I'm a big hat guy, you know, clearly,

2397
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:51,080
Speaker 1: let me see, are you balding? We're close times running out,

2398
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 1: you know a little bit. Yeah, you lost some hair

2399
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:54,080
Speaker 1: from the TRT.

2400
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:54,800
Speaker 4: Uh.

2401
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:56,680
Speaker 3: I think it was gonna happen anyway, But you know,

2402
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:58,760
Speaker 3: like the beginning muscles out the less. I look up.

2403
01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:00,360
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I was tr two.

2404
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:01,680
Speaker 3: You like it incredibly? Yeah?

2405
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 1: Should I get on it? On forty four?

2406
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 3: You should have gone in ten years ago.

2407
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:08,360
Speaker 1: I mean you're thirty a little early for I'm just

2408
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:08,960
Speaker 1: a regular doll.

2409
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:10,559
Speaker 3: I mean that's a that's that's a late blue man.

2410
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:12,840
Speaker 3: You did say this time to fourteen? You know, Wayne?

2411
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:15,559
Speaker 2: I mean, what will you be on in this gabby fight?

2412
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:16,000
Speaker 2: It plays in.

2413
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:21,040
Speaker 3: There's one particular drug. It's called Hallo testing. Have you

2414
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:21,519
Speaker 3: heard about this?

2415
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:21,760
Speaker 4: No?

2416
01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:24,519
Speaker 3: Hello tests and will actually enlarge your paintings?

2417
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:26,040
Speaker 1: How is that possible?

2418
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:33,760
Speaker 3: I like, he's interested. It took that to get him.

2419
01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 1: I was already interested in That was a tell.

2420
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:40,760
Speaker 2: That was a big talk. It's doesn't work.

2421
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:43,880
Speaker 1: I want the regular tr T, but go ahead please.

2422
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 3: Hallo testing is a strong R. I don't think it's

2423
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:47,560
Speaker 3: good for your liver, but I mean you live a

2424
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 3: can take it?

2425
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 1: Eight Okay, So what do you want now?

2426
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:50,000
Speaker 3: What am on now?

2427
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 4: Uh?

2428
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 3: Two hundred and fifty milligrams a test? But I mean,

2429
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:55,479
Speaker 3: my life's chaos. I fucking forget to take it off

2430
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:57,280
Speaker 3: the time, you know, but every time sponsored me out

2431
01:40:57,280 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 3: in Texas I meant to take two hundred fifty a

2432
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:02,479
Speaker 3: little bit of deck and then when I feel an

2433
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:04,840
Speaker 3: extra spicy samanava. Actually, that's funny.

2434
01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:06,640
Speaker 1: Mean, are you just blasting and cruising or do you

2435
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:07,439
Speaker 1: get on and off?

2436
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:10,080
Speaker 3: We just well, I mean I don't even really blast.

2437
01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:12,760
Speaker 3: I just stay on a does His life is.

2438
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:15,680
Speaker 2: One long bender and he's living it.

2439
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 1: How often do you get your you get your blood chucked? Uh?

2440
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:20,360
Speaker 3: Not as often as I should.

2441
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:24,759
Speaker 1: Oh fucking hell, guy, are you to think about that? Yeah, dude,

2442
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:27,519
Speaker 1: I'm telling careful with that.

2443
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:29,880
Speaker 3: You know what's crazy is I was doing black market

2444
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:33,160
Speaker 3: steroids forever. When I finally switched over ever to avertime,

2445
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 3: and he was really going to concern. He's like, fuck,

2446
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:37,120
Speaker 3: what are we going to see here? That's well fine,

2447
01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 3: I'm like a cutcrash man. You can't kill me.

2448
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:42,599
Speaker 1: The black market steroids? What does that mean?

2449
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:45,559
Speaker 3: Online? I used to end down to Tijuana and head

2450
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:47,360
Speaker 3: to the pharmacy there by It over the can of

2451
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:48,000
Speaker 3: go in the bathroom.

2452
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 1: You just drop across the border.

2453
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:51,800
Speaker 2: You never bought standards all on the street corner. I've

2454
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:54,840
Speaker 2: done whippets in an Arby's parking lot. That's a true.

2455
01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some fantastic fucking Chinese restaurants in Tijuana. I'll

2456
01:41:58,920 --> 01:41:59,439
Speaker 3: say that much.

2457
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:03,559
Speaker 1: Okay, how long were you taking like the I don't

2458
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:05,639
Speaker 1: know tea want to drug store stuff?

2459
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:09,200
Speaker 3: Oh a, while I was ordering online for a long time.

2460
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:11,360
Speaker 3: Just get it delivered here. But then again, like I

2461
01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:15,160
Speaker 3: would definitely recommend to like the pharmaceutical grade stuff. So

2462
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:18,600
Speaker 3: whatever I was taken, it was just probably weaker. So

2463
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:20,680
Speaker 3: as soon as I started with some proper evertime and

2464
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:21,960
Speaker 3: pharmaceutical stuff, it was just.

2465
01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:24,360
Speaker 1: All right, much much better. Biggest upsides of the stack

2466
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:25,120
Speaker 1: you're on is what.

2467
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 3: Just feeling great recovery. I mean, like if your diet,

2468
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:34,479
Speaker 3: your sleep, if you're stressed, that can affect your testosterone levels.

2469
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:36,600
Speaker 3: That can fluctuate. So obviously if you just have a

2470
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:40,000
Speaker 3: base level built in, you have less fluctuations. I don't

2471
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:43,640
Speaker 3: personally think it's that healthy to blasting crews. Obviously it's

2472
01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 3: going to be consequences of blasting, but going on cycle

2473
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 3: and coming off, I think personally it's an old school

2474
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:52,400
Speaker 3: way of thinking because your body doesn't deal well with fluctuations.

2475
01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:55,360
Speaker 3: So I think just a stock standard by a dose.

2476
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:57,800
Speaker 2: But what's the long term problem with being on a

2477
01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:00,240
Speaker 2: straight cruise. Here, your heart just falling off to.

2478
01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:03,200
Speaker 3: Talk to me in twenty years, Nah, No, I mean

2479
01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:03,960
Speaker 3: it should be good.

2480
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:06,640
Speaker 2: You know he passed the twenty seven club test. He

2481
01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:08,160
Speaker 2: made it to age thirty two, Luke, you.

2482
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:12,559
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, yeah, thirty two? Yeah, I mean thirty five.

2483
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:16,519
Speaker 2: Jimmy Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Jennas Shop and Brian Jones.

2484
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:18,920
Speaker 1: We can keep going thirty five. I'm telling you.

2485
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 2: Here's the question I have. This is legit because I

2486
01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:25,439
Speaker 2: come from a dirt back background and off and wonder

2487
01:43:25,439 --> 01:43:28,320
Speaker 2: if I didn't fall into combat sports, podcasting and writing,

2488
01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:29,360
Speaker 2: where would you be doing?

2489
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 1: Would you by the river?

2490
01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:33,759
Speaker 2: Would you be an absolute dirt hoole bar backing somewhere

2491
01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:35,880
Speaker 2: right now? If if it wasn't for jiu jitsu, Like

2492
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 2: this is kind of it's kind of the American dream Store,

2493
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:39,120
Speaker 2: but the Australian version.

2494
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:41,760
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I mean I don't know what i'd be doing. Hey,

2495
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:43,040
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

2496
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 2: You don't think about that. You were you were just

2497
01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:47,719
Speaker 2: you were just living man. You have no regrets.

2498
01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:50,240
Speaker 3: I don't have any permanent address. I'm just on the

2499
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:53,599
Speaker 3: road full time. We're putting in the buddy whatever. Resident

2500
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 3: I can't talk about that the country legal tax resident.

2501
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:02,120
Speaker 3: I mean, right, we're gonna address in the Bahamas.

2502
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:03,559
Speaker 1: Do you own the team?

2503
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 3: Oh, there's a few. It's split up amongst a few.

2504
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:08,559
Speaker 1: Are you okay? When I asked, are you the owner

2505
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:11,720
Speaker 1: of the intellectual property or the facility or the.

2506
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 3: I mean I come up with most of the designs,

2507
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:16,879
Speaker 3: believe it or not for the merch Yeah.

2508
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 1: I can believe that. I believe we got to get you.

2509
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:21,000
Speaker 2: To train Connor McGregor's grappling.

2510
01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:22,080
Speaker 1: That would be Dylan.

2511
01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:25,680
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. We could spend a couple of

2512
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:27,320
Speaker 3: hours in a bathroom cubicle token.

2513
01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:32,240
Speaker 1: We never get to the downsides. The downsides of what

2514
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:32,840
Speaker 1: you're on is what?

2515
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:37,760
Speaker 3: Uh So your testicles will shrink that's one downside. They

2516
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:39,840
Speaker 3: don't don't do it anything anymore. So they shrink up

2517
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:41,439
Speaker 3: my right one a little more than my left. That

2518
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:43,640
Speaker 3: one tucks back inside sometimes. But we don't need it.

2519
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:45,920
Speaker 3: It's good because grappling what happens. You get the balls

2520
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 3: all the time. If you don't have any one less.

2521
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:51,360
Speaker 1: Substable a right, that's rationalization? What else? What else?

2522
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 3: Downsides? I don't think there are any down.

2523
01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 1: Does it ever? Affect your mood? Does it ever affect

2524
01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:57,200
Speaker 1: I don't know anything.

2525
01:44:57,439 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 3: I mean, some people it does, but I'm the same.

2526
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:03,800
Speaker 2: Somebody tell me that Lorenzo for Tita told them that

2527
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:05,599
Speaker 2: we're all going to be on HGH for the rest

2528
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:07,040
Speaker 2: of our lives, and he's ahead of the game.

2529
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:09,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm desperately.

2530
01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:10,599
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone looks at my health and thinks

2531
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:11,400
Speaker 3: he's ahead of the game.

2532
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:15,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, I really I've been toying with the idea

2533
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:16,840
Speaker 1: of getting on for like the last five years and

2534
01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 1: putting it off, and I can't pull the trigger just yet.

2535
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:20,080
Speaker 3: You feel great.

2536
01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:23,679
Speaker 1: I don't know. Everyone says that. Everybody says. Everybody says

2537
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:24,920
Speaker 1: that I just haven't just get on.

2538
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:26,200
Speaker 3: Some hate cg as well.

2539
01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 1: What's the recommendation? How do I find since you've gone

2540
01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:32,479
Speaker 1: from literally, you know, just some motherfucker selling meth out

2541
01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 1: of a school bus to now get a legit, you know,

2542
01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:36,639
Speaker 1: like a doctor prescribing this ship?

2543
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:36,800
Speaker 3: Right?

2544
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:39,439
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, how do I find a reputable place?

2545
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a good point.

2546
01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 2: Just ask at the street corner.

2547
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:45,200
Speaker 1: Probably I'm down to the human pile of ship in

2548
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:46,320
Speaker 1: the on the subway.

2549
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 3: You need a vacation in Mexico. Let's go.

2550
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:49,640
Speaker 1: I want to do it. I want to do it.

2551
01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:51,720
Speaker 1: I want to I want my health in.

2552
01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:53,599
Speaker 2: That canelo beef. All right, that's what you need to start.

2553
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:56,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, seriously, how do I do it?

2554
01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:59,120
Speaker 3: I mean I just find it's like, really, here, I

2555
01:45:59,160 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 3: get a number, please?

2556
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:01,120
Speaker 1: Yes, I want one.

2557
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 3: I mean you be able to find a reputable doctor

2558
01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:05,400
Speaker 3: in New York you you had to. I would always

2559
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:06,960
Speaker 3: always say this wild want to get on it, Like,

2560
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:09,240
Speaker 3: go get your test ho sering levels checked because I

2561
01:46:09,320 --> 01:46:11,680
Speaker 3: think if your level is already pretty good, like I'd

2562
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:13,719
Speaker 3: get it checked a couple of times because they can fluctuate.

2563
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:16,439
Speaker 3: But I think, like, if your levels are high, why

2564
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:17,000
Speaker 3: fuck with it?

2565
01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:18,599
Speaker 1: Right? But if you go out, I don't think that's

2566
01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:20,920
Speaker 1: my problem. I gotta tell you. At forty four, I

2567
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:23,320
Speaker 1: threw my back out taking my bike lock off this morning.

2568
01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:25,840
Speaker 3: When I get on a Yeah, I.

2569
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:29,840
Speaker 2: Need help, all right. Craig, you're fearless in the jokes

2570
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:32,120
Speaker 2: you go after and the people that you go out

2571
01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:34,960
Speaker 2: of your way to effect. So people have to wonder

2572
01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:38,160
Speaker 2: when you live the life of the best public troll

2573
01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 2: going in the space, is it sometimes like a double

2574
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:44,200
Speaker 2: you know? And there's nothing a double Lake could figure out.

2575
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 2: If someone's gonna shoot on you? Are you ready for this?

2576
01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:47,880
Speaker 2: Are you surprised it hasn't happened.

2577
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:49,720
Speaker 1: I'm surprised someone has a run up on you yet?

2578
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 1: Are you gonna get And I don't mean to say

2579
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:54,800
Speaker 1: this like a beginner to worry you. It is coming,

2580
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 1: It is coming. I don't know when. I don't know

2581
01:46:57,560 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 1: when it'd be.

2582
01:46:58,320 --> 01:46:59,559
Speaker 3: I mean, look, be a poet again.

2583
01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:01,800
Speaker 2: You know those shoots is the ultimate defense for this one.

2584
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:04,280
Speaker 3: I mean, people give me deb Thatt's I'm going to warshuns.

2585
01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:05,840
Speaker 3: What are you gonna do? You know, what are you

2586
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:08,000
Speaker 3: going to take from me? An Eastern European woman already?

2587
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:08,680
Speaker 3: Hasn't you know?

2588
01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 1: Like you gotta live your family, think about what you do?

2589
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 3: You got a guys left by the balls?

2590
01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 1: Uh? Like when you're on Instagram and you're posting something

2591
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 1: and your ass is hanging out the entire time in

2592
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:17,719
Speaker 1: the mirror.

2593
01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:20,720
Speaker 3: I mean they're probably a little confused as well, to

2594
01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:23,519
Speaker 3: be honest, and that marketing mom just marketing. It's just

2595
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:25,760
Speaker 3: lady boy video? Is it confusing for them?

2596
01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:27,120
Speaker 1: I remember the lady boy videos.

2597
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 2: Yes, that was a scandalous turn for your comedy that

2598
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:32,080
Speaker 2: that was the time.

2599
01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:33,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had fun, the fun.

2600
01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:36,479
Speaker 2: You know, where do you stand on Dana White like

2601
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:39,400
Speaker 2: meadhead genius on top of the world, we love him?

2602
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 2: Or is this guy comical that you can poke fun

2603
01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:41,840
Speaker 2: at as well?

2604
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:44,360
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean there's some people I'd be scared to

2605
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:47,040
Speaker 3: poke fun at. I'd probably be scared. I want to

2606
01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 3: te guys, guys, give me some tickets to the event

2607
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:52,519
Speaker 3: of by you know what I mean, come on, I.

2608
01:47:52,520 --> 01:47:56,760
Speaker 1: Will say this. You're taking a certain degree of risk

2609
01:47:56,880 --> 01:47:59,960
Speaker 1: to do this invitational, which I think is really cool.

2610
01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 1: Why are Why don't MMA fighters ever do anything to

2611
01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:08,560
Speaker 1: improve their pay? I mean theyn't say that they do

2612
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:09,920
Speaker 1: because they fucking don't.

2613
01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:12,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just sweed up in with that law series.

2614
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 1: They said, yeah, they had multiple chances. And I know

2615
01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:17,080
Speaker 1: there's some guys I like Quinta and some other ones

2616
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:18,639
Speaker 1: that really tried to get a union going. That shit

2617
01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:23,000
Speaker 1: failed miserably. They don't want to do anything to help themselves,

2618
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:24,719
Speaker 1: and it's fucking baffling.

2619
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:27,120
Speaker 3: Why well, I mean, like we were in a blessed

2620
01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:28,880
Speaker 3: position that we can do this because none of us

2621
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:31,160
Speaker 3: were looked into contracts. That helps a lot.

2622
01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:33,920
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's not entirely true. We got some contracts

2623
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:34,479
Speaker 1: that we're working on.

2624
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:37,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that that kind of helped, you know, I

2625
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:38,760
Speaker 3: don't I mean, I don't know. You have to be

2626
01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:41,120
Speaker 3: the people at the top. It has to come from

2627
01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:43,320
Speaker 3: the top down. It has to be people that are

2628
01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:47,920
Speaker 3: at that peak peak fan peak. Success has to come

2629
01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:50,160
Speaker 3: from them. It can't come from the bottom up. That's

2630
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 3: very tough to do. If the top are very welcome

2631
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:53,080
Speaker 3: and the.

2632
01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:54,920
Speaker 1: Only reason why you feel comfortable doing it is not

2633
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 1: because of the words. There might be other people in

2634
01:48:57,479 --> 01:48:59,639
Speaker 1: like the top tier of grappling who feel the way

2635
01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:01,800
Speaker 1: you do, but don't feel the way you do about

2636
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:04,519
Speaker 1: moving the needle on this. But since you don't really

2637
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:07,479
Speaker 1: actively competing anymore, who gives a fuck?

2638
01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:10,479
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, I just don't care at this point. If

2639
01:49:10,720 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 3: promotion is going to be difficult to work with, I

2640
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:14,519
Speaker 3: just won't work with them. Like I don't feel like

2641
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:16,960
Speaker 3: I need anyone in the sports. So that puts me

2642
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:19,599
Speaker 3: in a unique position that I can basically tell everyone

2643
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:21,080
Speaker 3: to get fucked and just give it a crack.

2644
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:23,400
Speaker 1: Have you created like a new economy, not just you,

2645
01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:26,200
Speaker 1: but the things you do where karate combat is putting

2646
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:28,200
Speaker 1: the stuff on. I know one has restrictive contracts, but

2647
01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 1: they've been keeping the rule of Toller Brothers reasonably busy anyway,

2648
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:34,879
Speaker 1: where it's just kind of like super Fight here. Superfight

2649
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 1: there doesn't have to be a jiujitsu playable so it

2650
01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:38,880
Speaker 1: could be a karate place, it can be any kind

2651
01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:40,479
Speaker 1: of place. Do you feel like that's a lane that

2652
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:41,839
Speaker 1: you helped develop?

2653
01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:42,840
Speaker 2: I don't.

2654
01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:46,519
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously this Damous Grabson, obviously Gordon Ryan contributed

2655
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:49,120
Speaker 3: to the superfied for sure economy. But yeah, I mean,

2656
01:49:49,160 --> 01:49:51,120
Speaker 3: if you can mock yourself, I didn't see why an

2657
01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:53,280
Speaker 3: event wouldn't take a chance on you. But I think

2658
01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:56,840
Speaker 3: if you're running these events, you kind of are going

2659
01:49:56,920 --> 01:49:59,400
Speaker 3: to target as grapplers that can marckt themselves or at

2660
01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:01,680
Speaker 3: least help them find a way to market themselves. And

2661
01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:04,360
Speaker 3: that's this event has been really good for the athletes

2662
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:07,240
Speaker 3: that have jumped on board because of the organic sort

2663
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:10,680
Speaker 3: of uh hope like following it has. It's giving them

2664
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:13,000
Speaker 3: a voice too, because they can now market themselves as

2665
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:15,240
Speaker 3: standing with us on these issues.

2666
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:20,719
Speaker 1: The tutorial business, how lucrative is it? What can somebody

2667
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:22,759
Speaker 1: make doing that? And I realized everyone's going to be different,

2668
01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:25,559
Speaker 1: but that notwithstanding what's possible in that economy.

2669
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:28,240
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean that's really good. I mean, obviously you've

2670
01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:31,760
Speaker 3: got you've got to split some of those profits with

2671
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:34,720
Speaker 3: the people at bj fanatics. Some people are doing it

2672
01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:38,080
Speaker 3: on Patreon, like local jobs has sub better, like it

2673
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:39,400
Speaker 3: is really really a.

2674
01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:41,680
Speaker 1: Solid The guy on your team, Damien, he had a

2675
01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:45,040
Speaker 1: Ashigarami series that was on something else, it wasn't on

2676
01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:45,960
Speaker 1: PJJ fanatics.

2677
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:48,040
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean some people will choose to do it

2678
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:50,599
Speaker 3: on other platforms. BJJ fanatics really controls the market. That's

2679
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:52,680
Speaker 3: what you're gonna make the most money. They're great to

2680
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:56,360
Speaker 3: work with, they have great insistent marketing. But I mean, man,

2681
01:50:56,439 --> 01:50:59,160
Speaker 3: you could pull I don't want to speculate too much.

2682
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:02,160
Speaker 3: In other obviously you'd be like probably John and Gordon

2683
01:51:02,439 --> 01:51:06,240
Speaker 3: making the most money off us, which looks like what oh,

2684
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:10,080
Speaker 3: I mean, you'd be talking some ballpark gross per month.

2685
01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:11,960
Speaker 3: I would say over two hundred.

2686
01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:18,479
Speaker 1: Fuck me, seriously, take home then slit.

2687
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:21,280
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what this. Yeah, definitely gross.

2688
01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:24,200
Speaker 1: That fucking hell. So that's a six figure business, seven

2689
01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:24,840
Speaker 1: figure business.

2690
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:28,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's the most beneficial to be a part of.

2691
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:31,360
Speaker 2: Will the Gordon Ryan rivalry with you ever continue in

2692
01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:32,959
Speaker 2: an actual grappling match again.

2693
01:51:33,120 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 3: I mean see the door is always open again, like

2694
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:38,760
Speaker 3: if the the cash will be there for that. So

2695
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:41,800
Speaker 3: if they comment sided me, well for sure I would

2696
01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:45,439
Speaker 3: do it. But part of me love is just provoking

2697
01:51:45,479 --> 01:51:46,840
Speaker 3: for the love of the game, you know, like it's

2698
01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:48,479
Speaker 3: like he's the dream, you know, He's a guy that

2699
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:52,439
Speaker 3: every jokes like gone, you know, like I'm trying, I'm

2700
01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:52,960
Speaker 3: trying to think of the.

2701
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:55,960
Speaker 1: Best said something. Because I've interviewed him about jiu jitsu

2702
01:51:56,080 --> 01:51:58,200
Speaker 1: or jiu jitsu a MMA, and when it comes to

2703
01:51:58,320 --> 01:52:03,639
Speaker 1: talking about those topics, he always sounds extremely informed, very thoughtful,

2704
01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:06,960
Speaker 1: and detailed and organized in his thoughts.

2705
01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:10,400
Speaker 3: What he is when he stays on topic, and that's

2706
01:52:10,680 --> 01:52:14,320
Speaker 3: what he knows about, yeah, which is grappling brilliant.

2707
01:52:14,800 --> 01:52:18,439
Speaker 1: It's your belief is that when he strays off of it,

2708
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 1: it just falls off cloth.

2709
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:27,200
Speaker 3: He's literally been still from Dodgeball. That's literally, that's literally

2710
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:27,639
Speaker 3: the character.

2711
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:30,360
Speaker 2: Well, look, we've talked last week about you really trying

2712
01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:32,519
Speaker 2: to help normalize the idea of shitting your pants, like

2713
01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:34,120
Speaker 2: it shouldn't be such a shamed thing.

2714
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:35,719
Speaker 1: Listen, these things happen in Mma.

2715
01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:38,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so are you? Are you trying to normalize no

2716
01:52:38,920 --> 01:52:40,520
Speaker 2: spirit use in public.

2717
01:52:40,280 --> 01:52:43,559
Speaker 3: Culture and fucking at least create a culture of other

2718
01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:47,360
Speaker 3: athletes that are abusing these stimulants as well, And maybe

2719
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:49,960
Speaker 3: it's all alive from me? Then I have a competitive edge.

2720
01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:53,720
Speaker 1: No, you're partying like a motherfucker. Come on, you gotta be.

2721
01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:55,920
Speaker 3: I mean sometimes before the match, you know, you need

2722
01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:57,280
Speaker 3: a little coffee to pick you up.

2723
01:52:58,960 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 1: Do you do that before matches?

2724
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:02,000
Speaker 2: Extra sugar in the coffee, little sugar.

2725
01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:04,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, keep the keep the mysteries alive.

2726
01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:09,479
Speaker 1: What's that? What's gonna be the name brand of those things?

2727
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:10,320
Speaker 4: Uh?

2728
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:14,479
Speaker 3: Good? Questions? Oskar for Frank Sunglasses and it says you're

2729
01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:17,240
Speaker 3: welcome Craig John's. But again this, I mean, obviously, many

2730
01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:21,200
Speaker 3: times you need a very small span, right, you know,

2731
01:53:21,560 --> 01:53:22,360
Speaker 3: you know, look from.

2732
01:53:22,360 --> 01:53:23,639
Speaker 2: Like your your fraternity days.

2733
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:25,960
Speaker 1: Actually, I can't do I can't do it.

2734
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 3: Doesn't That's what I said, But I keep doing it.

2735
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:35,280
Speaker 2: Twenty years ago I tried it and it just looks like,

2736
01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:36,160
Speaker 2: let me stick with down.

2737
01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:36,800
Speaker 1: Have you ever done it?

2738
01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:37,840
Speaker 4: No? Really?

2739
01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 2: Oh, I put other don't you know? Should we be

2740
01:53:40,120 --> 01:53:41,160
Speaker 2: talking about this publicly?

2741
01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:47,519
Speaker 1: Why this is the whole port these were we going

2742
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:48,200
Speaker 1: to talk about it with.

2743
01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:51,200
Speaker 2: I've seen some things, you know what I mean, I've

2744
01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:51,960
Speaker 2: smelled hey.

2745
01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:56,479
Speaker 1: Reviews uh three three two?

2746
01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:00,959
Speaker 3: Listen. I think I think it's a gillotine.

2747
01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:02,599
Speaker 2: I think he's right.

2748
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:04,920
Speaker 1: Why did his guillotines fail?

2749
01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 3: It's a hard move to pull off, period, you know,

2750
01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:11,160
Speaker 3: it's just a hard hard to get like you have

2751
01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:11,880
Speaker 3: to go all.

2752
01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:15,320
Speaker 1: In on it, you know, like or makes it look easy.

2753
01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:18,559
Speaker 2: Is that level he makes juggling chicks at that level

2754
01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:19,000
Speaker 2: look easy?

2755
01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:23,800
Speaker 3: Well yes, yeahr yeah, I mean that's ho for the best.

2756
01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm hoping who's grappling?

2757
01:54:25,200 --> 01:54:28,439
Speaker 3: Do you actually like to watch who's grappling? I mean

2758
01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:31,400
Speaker 3: tons of the guys. I more love to scramble, like

2759
01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:33,400
Speaker 3: you might think, oh, do jiu jitsu. He's probably into

2760
01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:36,320
Speaker 3: the submissions and stuff, but I really like the scrambles,

2761
01:54:36,360 --> 01:54:38,600
Speaker 3: the top of the bottom scrambles and stuff. Well like

2762
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:40,560
Speaker 3: Jack Della's ability to not get.

2763
01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:43,680
Speaker 1: In and that is that hail Mary in that third

2764
01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:46,640
Speaker 1: round against Gilbert, kicking off the fencer coming to come

2765
01:54:46,720 --> 01:54:47,240
Speaker 1: over the top.

2766
01:54:47,720 --> 01:54:49,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, he counted the risks rode so well. He used

2767
01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:52,880
Speaker 3: Gilbert's ford pressure to get he rolled through right. Yeah,

2768
01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:55,320
Speaker 3: so guys like that where they're like doing things you've

2769
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:57,920
Speaker 3: not seen before. The creativity.

2770
01:54:57,960 --> 01:54:59,880
Speaker 1: That's what I like to watch, all right, anybody not

2771
01:55:00,040 --> 01:55:01,400
Speaker 1: in Australian that you like to watch.

2772
01:55:01,840 --> 01:55:04,320
Speaker 3: I forget the guy's name. He used to have crazy scrambles.

2773
01:55:04,360 --> 01:55:07,440
Speaker 3: I think he lives in Vegas. He's got some crazy stuff.

2774
01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:10,360
Speaker 3: Forget his name. He was Nah. This guy had been

2775
01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:12,800
Speaker 3: in prison with drug smuggling. That's not why I liked it.

2776
01:55:17,480 --> 01:55:19,600
Speaker 1: And I say this nicely. He's a maniac.

2777
01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:22,760
Speaker 2: He has Jurassic back, very well built. Guy loves crypto.

2778
01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:25,760
Speaker 1: Hey we should have. So we got our producer here, Luke. Yeah,

2779
01:55:25,920 --> 01:55:28,560
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's an idiot. But his dad is

2780
01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:31,720
Speaker 1: from Australia. Now this guy is fully American, but his

2781
01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:34,640
Speaker 1: dad played semi pro footy.

2782
01:55:34,720 --> 01:55:36,040
Speaker 2: Well yeah, speak on this, Luke.

2783
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:39,160
Speaker 1: He played Asie rules football semi pro for Richmond. You

2784
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:40,200
Speaker 1: can't hear me, so let him know.

2785
01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:44,920
Speaker 2: Okay, his dad played semi Aussie rules football for Richmond, Richmond.

2786
01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:48,080
Speaker 3: I like, I like rugby.

2787
01:55:48,320 --> 01:55:51,840
Speaker 1: Will you ever go back to Australia to live?

2788
01:55:52,680 --> 01:55:54,240
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know where I end up.

2789
01:55:54,280 --> 01:55:56,720
Speaker 3: You know, I didn't think too far ahead every day.

2790
01:55:59,480 --> 01:56:02,600
Speaker 1: Uh, you're from Adelaide, Adelaide. Tell me about Adelaide. What

2791
01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:03,080
Speaker 1: is that like?

2792
01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:05,960
Speaker 3: Adelaide. I mean it's got I think one point five

2793
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:08,000
Speaker 3: million people, but it's like it's I wouldn't define it.

2794
01:56:08,080 --> 01:56:10,919
Speaker 3: It's a big city by American standards, like it's downtown

2795
01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:11,560
Speaker 3: area's tiny.

2796
01:56:11,600 --> 01:56:13,880
Speaker 1: It's like endless rough equivalent in America.

2797
01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:18,000
Speaker 3: I mean American cities are pretty rough compared to those

2798
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 3: those ones, but is there an equivalent in size now?

2799
01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:24,880
Speaker 3: It's just like endless suburbs. Nice place, quiet place, relaxing place.

2800
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:28,040
Speaker 1: And do you miss it at all?

2801
01:56:28,880 --> 01:56:31,920
Speaker 3: Do I miss Australia? Yeah, as it's beautiful, beautiful place.

2802
01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:34,440
Speaker 3: You know people people will get my sense of humor.

2803
01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:36,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Americans.

2804
01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:38,440
Speaker 2: Here, they must love you.

2805
01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:41,760
Speaker 3: In Ireland and the UK, right, I think they're saying

2806
01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:43,160
Speaker 3: the same bands. So the bands is the same. We

2807
01:56:43,240 --> 01:56:44,080
Speaker 3: say different things.

2808
01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:45,960
Speaker 1: But we picked up they're more willing to we call

2809
01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:47,680
Speaker 1: it playing the dozens. They're a little bit more willing

2810
01:56:47,720 --> 01:56:48,800
Speaker 1: to do that we found, right.

2811
01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:50,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the dream in America when you're talking and

2812
01:56:50,960 --> 01:56:52,600
Speaker 3: no one knows if you're serious or not. That's what

2813
01:56:52,920 --> 01:56:53,880
Speaker 3: That's what I love about it.

2814
01:56:53,960 --> 01:56:55,240
Speaker 1: But that's what makes you stand out here.

2815
01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:56,800
Speaker 3: It's true. It's true.

2816
01:56:56,920 --> 01:56:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta have balls to pull that off though, Okay,

2817
01:56:59,240 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 2: you gotta have level.

2818
01:57:00,440 --> 01:57:01,680
Speaker 3: Am I not shrunken?

2819
01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:03,920
Speaker 2: And our West best we found out his are very

2820
01:57:04,320 --> 01:57:09,040
Speaker 2: California raisins there. Yeah, wow, this is great. This was

2821
01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 2: just you know, the Power Hour right.

2822
01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:13,280
Speaker 3: For sure?

2823
01:57:14,360 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 1: Tickets going on.

2824
01:57:15,160 --> 01:57:17,120
Speaker 3: So yeah, they were meant to go on today. I

2825
01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:19,000
Speaker 3: think we'll have out within a week or so, as

2826
01:57:19,040 --> 01:57:21,840
Speaker 3: soon as we get that stage, because what we're really

2827
01:57:21,840 --> 01:57:23,840
Speaker 3: are trying to go. We want to put on the

2828
01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:25,760
Speaker 3: best show ever because it's obviously there's a lot of

2829
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:28,520
Speaker 3: pressure you're going up against the like if you would

2830
01:57:28,520 --> 01:57:30,560
Speaker 3: put on a show against UFC, you better not make

2831
01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:34,120
Speaker 3: any fucking big areas. So it's like for us, just see,

2832
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:38,320
Speaker 3: the unique nature of the Angled Wolves provides some production difficulties.

2833
01:57:38,600 --> 01:57:40,640
Speaker 3: We have to build a stage around it. But before

2834
01:57:40,680 --> 01:57:43,040
Speaker 3: tickets go and sale, we need to finalize that. And

2835
01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:45,320
Speaker 3: of course the closest seats will be the VIPs. We've

2836
01:57:45,320 --> 01:57:47,440
Speaker 3: been fuck up the VIP seating, which would be funny

2837
01:57:47,480 --> 01:57:49,840
Speaker 3: if they bought the closest seats and we didn't see

2838
01:57:50,280 --> 01:57:50,960
Speaker 3: into the alley.

2839
01:57:51,480 --> 01:57:53,480
Speaker 1: Does the Commission have any stay over this event?

2840
01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:57,200
Speaker 2: No, No, are your broadcasters allowed to openly do drugs

2841
01:57:58,200 --> 01:57:59,640
Speaker 2: or is it more of a hush hush thing.

2842
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:01,680
Speaker 3: I mean we're on YouTube. Hopefully we don't. I mean,

2843
01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:03,360
Speaker 3: hopefully I don't go down the path you guys have

2844
01:58:03,560 --> 01:58:05,800
Speaker 3: getting demonetized today. So we're going to steer clear.

2845
01:58:05,640 --> 01:58:07,160
Speaker 1: Of that for the I mean, that's been a long

2846
01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:09,040
Speaker 1: it's been a long process for who is going to

2847
01:58:09,080 --> 01:58:09,800
Speaker 1: be your commentators.

2848
01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:14,919
Speaker 3: Still figuring that out obviously. Well, I'm tackling the athletes,

2849
01:58:15,280 --> 01:58:19,400
Speaker 3: the venue ticket sales. First. We're talking to potential commentators

2850
01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:21,200
Speaker 3: and referees, but we haven't locked any of them in.

2851
01:58:21,400 --> 01:58:23,080
Speaker 1: Listen, we don't know what the fuck we're talking about.

2852
01:58:23,120 --> 01:58:24,840
Speaker 1: But we'll also take a check for things we don't

2853
01:58:24,840 --> 01:58:24,920
Speaker 1: know what.

2854
01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:28,160
Speaker 2: August sixteenth and seventeenth, Thomas and Max Center.

2855
01:58:28,640 --> 01:58:30,600
Speaker 3: You have to do some of the nosebers to get

2856
01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:32,240
Speaker 3: some passion into the grappling community.

2857
01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:34,320
Speaker 1: You know, I'll make an exception in this one case

2858
01:58:34,400 --> 01:58:35,240
Speaker 1: for you, Craig Jones.

2859
01:58:35,320 --> 01:58:37,200
Speaker 3: I was trying to get Alex Johns to commentate the

2860
01:58:37,240 --> 01:58:40,320
Speaker 3: Gabby guys see image. He provide some freely articulate points.

2861
01:58:40,520 --> 01:58:41,880
Speaker 1: And on the money is going to charity.

2862
01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:44,960
Speaker 3: You're going to involve him, Well, he needs money. I

2863
01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:47,320
Speaker 3: don't know. Now, I really want to get some comedians

2864
01:58:47,320 --> 01:58:49,360
Speaker 3: on board, like Nick Mullen. I think he'd love commentating.

2865
01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:52,080
Speaker 3: Will be fighting a woman Nick more Cometown Guys.

2866
01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:52,960
Speaker 1: Who is Nick Mullen?

2867
01:58:53,120 --> 01:58:55,480
Speaker 3: You guys don't want to come to Red Haired Guy Cometown,

2868
01:58:55,640 --> 01:58:56,000
Speaker 3: New York.

2869
01:58:56,440 --> 01:58:57,320
Speaker 5: Oh, I know, I know.

2870
01:58:57,960 --> 01:58:59,680
Speaker 1: Stavvy. Yeah, he's say.

2871
01:58:59,600 --> 01:59:03,040
Speaker 3: Stab Nick Marlin and Adam Friedland funniest podcast.

2872
01:59:03,320 --> 01:59:05,160
Speaker 2: I hear that that's the best podcast out there from

2873
01:59:05,160 --> 01:59:05,600
Speaker 2: my friends.

2874
01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:05,880
Speaker 1: I don't.

2875
01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:06,520
Speaker 2: I don't listen.

2876
01:59:06,760 --> 01:59:09,360
Speaker 1: I do watch Stavvy. Stavvey is fucking hilarious. But I

2877
01:59:09,400 --> 01:59:11,360
Speaker 1: don't know if I don't think I've seen come down look.

2878
01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:12,440
Speaker 3: Into Nick Marlin funny guy.

2879
01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:13,120
Speaker 1: I think it does.

2880
01:59:13,240 --> 01:59:14,040
Speaker 2: It does fit the brand.

2881
01:59:14,400 --> 01:59:15,200
Speaker 3: Just you know, it's great.

2882
01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:17,440
Speaker 1: You guys have a website yet for c j O.

2883
01:59:17,880 --> 01:59:21,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, fair Fire Wait, no, I didn't even know the website.

2884
01:59:21,720 --> 01:59:24,120
Speaker 3: Fair five Foundation is something the best promotion ever.

2885
01:59:24,440 --> 01:59:26,000
Speaker 2: You're just fucking find we gotta.

2886
01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:27,680
Speaker 1: We really got to go to Vegas at that time.

2887
01:59:27,720 --> 01:59:28,800
Speaker 1: We got to find a way to make it work.

2888
01:59:28,840 --> 01:59:30,200
Speaker 1: We do. We do have to have you know, we'll

2889
01:59:30,200 --> 01:59:33,680
Speaker 1: turn into are you gonna like capt credential media?

2890
01:59:33,880 --> 01:59:33,920
Speaker 5: Like?

2891
01:59:35,200 --> 01:59:35,400
Speaker 1: Sure?

2892
01:59:35,440 --> 01:59:38,160
Speaker 2: I think are you selling tickets or it's just them

2893
01:59:38,160 --> 01:59:41,120
Speaker 2: all tickets to charity charity.

2894
01:59:41,200 --> 01:59:46,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna go to some obviously powerful Columbian manufacturing charities.

2895
01:59:47,080 --> 01:59:48,800
Speaker 2: Luke knows a lot about Columbia.

2896
01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:50,320
Speaker 3: Charity.

2897
01:59:50,560 --> 01:59:52,960
Speaker 2: Really there, can you quickly.

2898
01:59:52,760 --> 01:59:54,720
Speaker 3: Set sampled the exports?

2899
01:59:56,880 --> 01:59:58,320
Speaker 1: So if I married one on their input?

2900
01:59:58,920 --> 02:00:01,400
Speaker 2: Can you settle some personal debates betweens, just answer what

2901
02:00:01,520 --> 02:00:04,640
Speaker 2: you prefer, bbls or Eastern European one.

2902
02:00:05,480 --> 02:00:05,640
Speaker 1: Uh?

2903
02:00:06,920 --> 02:00:10,600
Speaker 3: Visually bbl's Eastern European women will hurt you a lot more.

2904
02:00:11,760 --> 02:00:13,520
Speaker 1: I think, okay, eat all the ship.

2905
02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:16,280
Speaker 2: When it comes to lifting weights, gloves or no gloves.

2906
02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:18,320
Speaker 3: No gloves, I never use protection.

2907
02:00:22,840 --> 02:00:25,160
Speaker 2: I think that's a perfect note. Tend that's great. You

2908
02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:25,720
Speaker 2: can't beat that.

2909
02:00:25,960 --> 02:00:28,240
Speaker 1: That's great. Correct. Let's see your tattoo. By the way,

2910
02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:31,040
Speaker 1: that's a good tattoo. Man. Who did that? Uh?

2911
02:00:31,240 --> 02:00:34,280
Speaker 3: It's a meg a Guel from Guelala hi Ovius. She

2912
02:00:34,360 --> 02:00:36,560
Speaker 3: actually lives in New York. Now she has a tattoos

2913
02:00:36,560 --> 02:00:38,960
Speaker 3: studio here. I can see this one too, this one,

2914
02:00:39,240 --> 02:00:40,680
Speaker 3: this one she did that one as well?

2915
02:00:40,720 --> 02:00:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, how the fuck? Do we have similar tattoos. It's

2916
02:00:43,040 --> 02:00:46,520
Speaker 1: kind of like shocking old school American traditionally yours a

2917
02:00:46,560 --> 02:00:48,400
Speaker 1: little more realistic, but uh.

2918
02:00:48,920 --> 02:00:50,520
Speaker 3: Why, it's just a bunch of animals on the fucking

2919
02:00:50,560 --> 02:00:51,400
Speaker 3: noahzaka there.

2920
02:00:51,600 --> 02:00:54,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like Tristan's arm our old camera guy.

2921
02:00:54,280 --> 02:00:56,760
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, except he doesn't have a box cutter in

2922
02:00:56,840 --> 02:00:58,520
Speaker 1: his mouth that he's able to pull out and starts left.

2923
02:00:58,640 --> 02:01:00,160
Speaker 1: We had a guy who worked on the show who

2924
02:01:00,280 --> 02:01:02,880
Speaker 1: just never fucking talked, and then like, over the course

2925
02:01:02,920 --> 02:01:05,280
Speaker 1: of six weeks, every time you saw him had a

2926
02:01:05,360 --> 02:01:06,600
Speaker 1: new tattoo.

2927
02:01:06,760 --> 02:01:09,680
Speaker 2: Everywhere it was always rabbid animals, and it was rabid.

2928
02:01:09,400 --> 02:01:12,560
Speaker 1: Fucking like woodland animals. And we're like, we were convinced

2929
02:01:12,600 --> 02:01:15,240
Speaker 1: if you just said one wrong word, it was gonna

2930
02:01:15,240 --> 02:01:16,840
Speaker 1: be you know, it's gonna be a box cutter down.

2931
02:01:19,320 --> 02:01:20,160
Speaker 3: For the event? Is the end?

2932
02:01:20,240 --> 02:01:20,360
Speaker 4: Now?

2933
02:01:22,640 --> 02:01:23,120
Speaker 1: Security?

2934
02:01:23,200 --> 02:01:25,040
Speaker 2: Please long guy look at him on the horn for that.

2935
02:01:25,320 --> 02:01:28,000
Speaker 2: Craig Jones, thank you so much for stopping bikes, man,

2936
02:01:28,040 --> 02:01:30,640
Speaker 2: I really appreciate ridiculousness. August.

2937
02:01:31,320 --> 02:01:33,320
Speaker 1: Next time you come through, people asked us like, hey,

2938
02:01:33,400 --> 02:01:35,520
Speaker 1: Craig's coming through, do you guys want to put some

2939
02:01:35,600 --> 02:01:37,640
Speaker 1: white powder on the table and then pretend to snort it.

2940
02:01:37,680 --> 02:01:38,960
Speaker 1: And I'm like, if we're gonna do, we're gonna do

2941
02:01:38,960 --> 02:01:40,520
Speaker 1: it the right way. You know what I'm saying. We're

2942
02:01:40,520 --> 02:01:41,880
Speaker 1: not gonna do like the fake ship, right.

2943
02:01:42,720 --> 02:01:45,640
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, that wasn't part of my contract.

2944
02:01:45,960 --> 02:01:49,320
Speaker 1: I didn't agree to that, right, But next time we can,

2945
02:01:49,400 --> 02:01:51,640
Speaker 1: we can at least do we can do some beers, whether.

2946
02:01:51,440 --> 02:01:53,280
Speaker 2: They go in the nose or deltas and beers.

2947
02:01:54,280 --> 02:01:56,160
Speaker 1: We're in our forties, we have kids. It's different now,

2948
02:01:56,480 --> 02:01:57,280
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

2949
02:01:57,200 --> 02:01:59,560
Speaker 3: Well, keep my but I'm here.

2950
02:02:01,160 --> 02:02:04,080
Speaker 2: Keep living the life we all wish we could. You'll

2951
02:02:04,200 --> 02:02:06,040
Speaker 2: die young, but you'll go out in a blaze of

2952
02:02:06,080 --> 02:02:07,160
Speaker 2: glory and I can't wait for her.

2953
02:02:07,480 --> 02:02:08,560
Speaker 1: Are you going to the fights tomorrow?

2954
02:02:08,800 --> 02:02:10,640
Speaker 3: No, I haven't got tickets. Yeah I'm gonna. I'm gonna

2955
02:02:10,640 --> 02:02:13,200
Speaker 3: cool in some favors, you know, all right, Uncle Dana.

2956
02:02:13,240 --> 02:02:14,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. And the next time you're back

2957
02:02:14,840 --> 02:02:15,600
Speaker 1: in the team is one.

2958
02:02:16,920 --> 02:02:21,040
Speaker 3: So I go Romania, Ukraine, Ibza obviously old business trips

2959
02:02:21,080 --> 02:02:25,800
Speaker 3: and then back to back to us enough to pronunciation,

2960
02:02:25,920 --> 02:02:28,120
Speaker 3: but I know it's like, uh, you put a little

2961
02:02:28,200 --> 02:02:30,160
Speaker 3: lisp on. It's like.

2962
02:02:33,120 --> 02:02:34,760
Speaker 1: I hate the pronunciation, but that's how they say it

2963
02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:35,240
Speaker 1: there it is.

2964
02:02:35,480 --> 02:02:37,240
Speaker 3: I've been there once before. I don't remember what.

2965
02:02:37,680 --> 02:02:39,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he parted like a motherfucker out there.

2966
02:02:39,400 --> 02:02:42,160
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, I bit of the pink Paddy your drugs

2967
02:02:42,160 --> 02:02:45,080
Speaker 2: with Oscar willis Sorry, we'll keep that conversation, Oscar.

2968
02:02:45,640 --> 02:02:47,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys do weird interviews like you're both naked

2969
02:02:47,800 --> 02:02:48,520
Speaker 1: in a tub together.

2970
02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:50,680
Speaker 3: I mean that's what we usually day.

2971
02:02:52,360 --> 02:02:54,760
Speaker 2: Is in phenomenal hang But I cannot keep up with

2972
02:02:54,840 --> 02:02:55,920
Speaker 2: him for more than thirty minutes.

2973
02:02:55,960 --> 02:02:57,600
Speaker 3: You know, he's got some good stories.

2974
02:02:57,880 --> 02:02:59,920
Speaker 1: He is a disturbing human being.

2975
02:03:00,200 --> 02:03:02,480
Speaker 2: He's you know what, if she went down, he would

2976
02:03:02,480 --> 02:03:04,600
Speaker 2: have our backs, all right, and you got you gotta.

2977
02:03:04,840 --> 02:03:06,800
Speaker 2: You got to protect and support people like that.

2978
02:03:07,360 --> 02:03:09,040
Speaker 1: No, I would just push him right into the fucking

2979
02:03:09,080 --> 02:03:09,920
Speaker 1: school shooter first.

2980
02:03:10,040 --> 02:03:12,000
Speaker 2: Just take it right back, Okay, all.

2981
02:03:11,960 --> 02:03:13,760
Speaker 1: Right, Craig Jones there he is random and bloss for

2982
02:03:13,800 --> 02:03:15,160
Speaker 1: Craig Jones, everybody, that's.

2983
02:03:15,040 --> 02:03:15,840
Speaker 2: The era there he is.

2984
02:03:16,440 --> 02:03:18,960
Speaker 1: Thank you, my friend, really appreciate it, and I hope

2985
02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:20,520
Speaker 1: we can catch up against soon. I will try to

2986
02:03:20,560 --> 02:03:21,880
Speaker 1: make it out for the CJ I.

2987
02:03:22,200 --> 02:03:25,040
Speaker 2: The cj I sixteen and seventeen, and yeah, you.

2988
02:03:25,040 --> 02:03:26,720
Speaker 1: Can have it. You can have it all yours, all yours.

2989
02:03:27,320 --> 02:03:31,280
Speaker 2: Great stuff there, Jones coach Craig Jones, follow him, give

2990
02:03:31,360 --> 02:03:34,600
Speaker 2: him free drugs. That's all right. He's actually has his

2991
02:03:34,680 --> 02:03:36,360
Speaker 2: name and number on the back of that that jersey.

2992
02:03:36,440 --> 02:03:39,000
Speaker 1: Right, that's pretty cool. Ptend as well. Nice meeting you.

2993
02:03:39,240 --> 02:03:40,760
Speaker 1: I wasn't being racist, by the way.

2994
02:03:43,760 --> 02:03:45,720
Speaker 2: He's like, that's what they all say. That's great stuff,

2995
02:03:45,760 --> 02:03:46,040
Speaker 2: all right.

2996
02:03:46,440 --> 02:03:48,880
Speaker 1: Thanks to Craig for stopping by. We really appreciate that.

2997
02:03:49,000 --> 02:03:51,640
Speaker 1: That was great. And uh look what did you think

2998
02:03:52,280 --> 02:03:54,720
Speaker 1: long Aland sorry I was saying by to him. That

2999
02:03:54,840 --> 02:03:57,720
Speaker 1: was great. Yeah, he's very Australian. Huh yeah, your.

3000
02:03:57,680 --> 02:03:59,360
Speaker 2: Dad would love him, right, My dad would love him.

3001
02:03:59,360 --> 02:04:01,120
Speaker 1: My dad also said, and Adelaide is a great place

3002
02:04:01,160 --> 02:04:01,480
Speaker 1: to live.

3003
02:04:01,560 --> 02:04:04,040
Speaker 2: So shout out, where's your dad from Melbourne?

3004
02:04:04,120 --> 02:04:04,200
Speaker 4: Right?

3005
02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:04,720
Speaker 1: Melbourne?

3006
02:04:04,960 --> 02:04:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that absolute dirt hole. We got to meet that

3007
02:04:07,160 --> 02:04:07,680
Speaker 2: guy one day.

3008
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:08,120
Speaker 1: We do.

3009
02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:09,160
Speaker 2: What's his first name?

3010
02:04:09,200 --> 02:04:10,480
Speaker 1: We need to go to Australa. I want to go

3011
02:04:10,480 --> 02:04:10,880
Speaker 1: to Austrila.

3012
02:04:10,960 --> 02:04:16,000
Speaker 2: Heirst name is Alan, Alan, Alan w No, that's Alan Wong,

3013
02:04:16,080 --> 02:04:17,840
Speaker 2: one of our best names. Care right, Well, look at you.

3014
02:04:18,160 --> 02:04:20,760
Speaker 1: You know my last name and it's not w I

3015
02:04:20,840 --> 02:04:21,879
Speaker 1: know I was just being a shithead.

3016
02:04:22,240 --> 02:04:24,480
Speaker 2: Okay, look, let's pick up where we left off the case.

3017
02:04:24,520 --> 02:04:26,360
Speaker 2: What a Friday? What a Friday we're given because that

3018
02:04:26,400 --> 02:04:28,920
Speaker 2: was a passionate UFC three or two preview that we gave.

3019
02:04:28,960 --> 02:04:30,960
Speaker 1: All right, all right, so let's talk about this very quickly.

3020
02:04:31,160 --> 02:04:32,000
Speaker 2: I died this hair.

3021
02:04:32,440 --> 02:04:34,840
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the UFC news. Yeah, you with some

3022
02:04:34,920 --> 02:04:35,520
Speaker 1: shoe polis.

3023
02:04:35,600 --> 02:04:37,480
Speaker 2: I think it's given me ten years younger. If am

3024
02:04:37,520 --> 02:04:39,480
Speaker 2: I in the sad point? Remember when Brian Kenny started

3025
02:04:39,720 --> 02:04:41,520
Speaker 2: ing his hair hazel and it was like somebody should

3026
02:04:41,560 --> 02:04:41,840
Speaker 2: tell him?

3027
02:04:42,360 --> 02:04:47,680
Speaker 1: Would you tell me, dude, I've been telling you. Have

3028
02:04:47,840 --> 02:04:50,440
Speaker 1: I ever wentheld my opinion about these matters to you?

3029
02:04:50,680 --> 02:04:53,280
Speaker 2: Like, congratulations on that fifty dollars haircut. It doesn't suck.

3030
02:04:53,600 --> 02:04:55,960
Speaker 2: It's to go high and tight like your high school

3031
02:04:56,040 --> 02:04:56,760
Speaker 2: women preference.

3032
02:04:57,880 --> 02:04:59,560
Speaker 1: I think it for fifty bucks in Washington, d C.

3033
02:04:59,640 --> 02:05:01,560
Speaker 1: You're not to get a bit of haircut. No, for

3034
02:05:01,640 --> 02:05:02,880
Speaker 1: fifty bucks, you're just not gonna get it.

3035
02:05:02,920 --> 02:05:04,800
Speaker 2: What do you think about Okay, you won't shave the

3036
02:05:04,840 --> 02:05:05,960
Speaker 2: beard or put it up. You even want to have

3037
02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:08,360
Speaker 2: the conversation. Would you do you ever feel the need

3038
02:05:08,440 --> 02:05:10,760
Speaker 2: to like trim it aggressively come in like a much.

3039
02:05:11,160 --> 02:05:13,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, put I mean with the camera. But I

3040
02:05:13,360 --> 02:05:16,920
Speaker 1: feel like, here's what I've learned aging into my forties. Now, yeah,

3041
02:05:17,160 --> 02:05:20,680
Speaker 1: that if your beard is long and the hair is long, like.

3042
02:05:20,920 --> 02:05:23,920
Speaker 2: You're hiding something emotionally that or it just makes you

3043
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:25,880
Speaker 2: look So that's true.

3044
02:05:26,320 --> 02:05:27,960
Speaker 1: You gotta have you gotta have shorter hair.

3045
02:05:28,120 --> 02:05:30,480
Speaker 2: I have shitty facial hair because I can't grow good

3046
02:05:30,480 --> 02:05:32,480
Speaker 2: facial hair. So when someone like your little boy, so

3047
02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:34,480
Speaker 2: when someone like you can, and I'm like, I don't

3048
02:05:34,520 --> 02:05:36,560
Speaker 2: know if you respect the gift you've been given. I

3049
02:05:36,600 --> 02:05:38,280
Speaker 2: don't know if you take full responsibility.

3050
02:05:38,320 --> 02:05:41,920
Speaker 1: I am maybe going to get a beard sponsor, Like

3051
02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:42,879
Speaker 1: I'm in the final.

3052
02:05:43,320 --> 02:05:44,320
Speaker 2: For Luke Thomas dot com.

3053
02:05:44,400 --> 02:05:46,280
Speaker 1: You're a personal channel. Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, with

3054
02:05:46,440 --> 02:05:47,720
Speaker 1: the close to the finish line.

3055
02:05:47,600 --> 02:05:49,280
Speaker 2: On that ship, could I get free hook up? I'll

3056
02:05:49,320 --> 02:05:49,840
Speaker 2: pullad it on.

3057
02:05:50,600 --> 02:05:53,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, my own personal all right, So let's talk about

3058
02:05:53,280 --> 02:05:55,640
Speaker 1: some of this UFC news. If we can hear Brian Campbell,

3059
02:05:55,720 --> 02:05:59,080
Speaker 1: let's sort of get back to it. A few things

3060
02:05:59,200 --> 02:06:01,040
Speaker 1: that have come up here in the world of the UFC,

3061
02:06:01,400 --> 02:06:04,600
Speaker 1: not limited to the return of Nick Diaz. Nick Diaz

3062
02:06:04,640 --> 02:06:08,120
Speaker 1: will be back August third. This will be an Abu Dhabi.

3063
02:06:08,200 --> 02:06:10,120
Speaker 1: This is a card headline by Cory san Haagen taking

3064
02:06:10,160 --> 02:06:10,920
Speaker 1: on and it's loaded.

3065
02:06:10,960 --> 02:06:12,120
Speaker 2: It's a loaded Fight Night card.

3066
02:06:12,120 --> 02:06:14,560
Speaker 1: It's got names. Loaded is somewhat debated point.

3067
02:06:14,600 --> 02:06:14,920
Speaker 2: Good point.

3068
02:06:14,920 --> 02:06:17,120
Speaker 1: But of course Nick Diaz, who will be forty one

3069
02:06:17,320 --> 02:06:19,240
Speaker 1: years old at the time of the fight, is going

3070
02:06:19,280 --> 02:06:22,400
Speaker 1: to take on Vicente Luke BC. Talk me off the

3071
02:06:22,480 --> 02:06:24,400
Speaker 1: ledge here, talk me off the led, talk me off

3072
02:06:24,440 --> 02:06:26,640
Speaker 1: the ledge. Both of these guys. Nick Dias has not

3073
02:06:26,680 --> 02:06:28,920
Speaker 1: want to fight since twenty eleven Obama was in office.

3074
02:06:28,960 --> 02:06:30,440
Speaker 2: It hasn't since two years ago.

3075
02:06:30,480 --> 02:06:31,560
Speaker 1: He looked like three almost.

3076
02:06:31,640 --> 02:06:33,560
Speaker 2: He did not want to be there and told everybody

3077
02:06:33,680 --> 02:06:34,640
Speaker 2: I do not want to be here.

3078
02:06:34,760 --> 02:06:36,560
Speaker 1: If I was at one eighty five, presumably this one's

3079
02:06:36,560 --> 02:06:37,840
Speaker 1: going to be at one to seventy. He does look

3080
02:06:37,880 --> 02:06:39,760
Speaker 1: better in recent pictures. B see what the fuck is

3081
02:06:39,840 --> 02:06:40,320
Speaker 1: going on with it?

3082
02:06:40,400 --> 02:06:42,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. I like everyone else, I echo the

3083
02:06:42,680 --> 02:06:45,720
Speaker 2: idea of if this came out as Tony Ferguson riding

3084
02:06:45,760 --> 02:06:47,920
Speaker 2: a seven fight losing skid, but yet we're giving him

3085
02:06:47,920 --> 02:06:51,280
Speaker 2: one more. And I'm sometimes when I see Tony lose

3086
02:06:51,360 --> 02:06:53,760
Speaker 2: but give a great effort, I get fall in the

3087
02:06:53,800 --> 02:06:55,880
Speaker 2: trap too. Do you want to make Tony versus Nick

3088
02:06:55,960 --> 02:06:58,200
Speaker 2: do it? What the hell are we doing on Nick

3089
02:06:58,320 --> 02:07:00,600
Speaker 2: versus Luke? Look, A lot of people thought at first

3090
02:07:00,640 --> 02:07:03,720
Speaker 2: this must have been, you know, ordered by Saudi Arabia government.

3091
02:07:03,720 --> 02:07:05,200
Speaker 2: Then we're like, wait, it's in Nabu Dabi. It's not

3092
02:07:05,240 --> 02:07:06,720
Speaker 2: connected to that, so it must have.

3093
02:07:06,720 --> 02:07:07,160
Speaker 1: Been or no.

3094
02:07:07,280 --> 02:07:10,520
Speaker 2: It just seems, according to to Ariel like who had

3095
02:07:10,560 --> 02:07:13,640
Speaker 2: the intel on how this fight came together, that Nick

3096
02:07:13,720 --> 02:07:15,920
Speaker 2: had wanted to come back at UFC three hundred against

3097
02:07:15,920 --> 02:07:18,640
Speaker 2: Colby Covington and had other things he was talking about,

3098
02:07:18,680 --> 02:07:21,400
Speaker 2: and then they shifted him here. So I get using

3099
02:07:21,480 --> 02:07:23,360
Speaker 2: what's left of his brand of a guy who wants

3100
02:07:23,400 --> 02:07:26,360
Speaker 2: to be there, would either put him in a celebrity fighter,

3101
02:07:26,400 --> 02:07:28,360
Speaker 2: put him in there with another aging slugger that we love,

3102
02:07:28,400 --> 02:07:30,760
Speaker 2: and we go, okay, have your retirement fight together and

3103
02:07:30,800 --> 02:07:32,520
Speaker 2: we're going to cheer you guys on out. Why is

3104
02:07:32,560 --> 02:07:35,960
Speaker 2: it that hard? I know Luke is an aftermarket version

3105
02:07:36,000 --> 02:07:38,000
Speaker 2: of Luk, but what good is going to come from

3106
02:07:38,040 --> 02:07:40,400
Speaker 2: this fight? Like, I just here's what I didn't like

3107
02:07:40,480 --> 02:07:42,440
Speaker 2: Luke because I do want to protect these guys. I

3108
02:07:42,480 --> 02:07:45,080
Speaker 2: don't think you should have been in there against Robbi Lawler,

3109
02:07:45,120 --> 02:07:47,080
Speaker 2: and even though they had a brawl that a lot

3110
02:07:47,080 --> 02:07:49,040
Speaker 2: of people love, DANEA was like, wasn't that awesome? And

3111
02:07:49,160 --> 02:07:51,040
Speaker 2: I did hear fans d I mean be like, no,

3112
02:07:51,200 --> 02:07:53,160
Speaker 2: b C, You're wrong. That was super fun. There was

3113
02:07:53,200 --> 02:07:55,760
Speaker 2: just something about it, maybe because the guy there was

3114
02:07:55,800 --> 02:07:58,000
Speaker 2: constantly telling everybody he didn't want to be there, and

3115
02:07:58,120 --> 02:08:00,600
Speaker 2: it seemed like Nate was only doing it Nick to

3116
02:08:00,760 --> 02:08:04,360
Speaker 2: please managers. You know, I don't know the relationship behind

3117
02:08:04,400 --> 02:08:07,320
Speaker 2: the scenes. It doesn't mean he can't take it serious again, Luke,

3118
02:08:07,400 --> 02:08:10,480
Speaker 2: but the matchmaking here shocks me. Did they see tape

3119
02:08:10,760 --> 02:08:13,920
Speaker 2: that I didn't? Is Nick so dedicated here? I mean

3120
02:08:14,240 --> 02:08:16,680
Speaker 2: the guy literally hasn't want to fight in thirteen years.

3121
02:08:16,720 --> 02:08:19,200
Speaker 2: So as much as I love nostalgia and old guys

3122
02:08:19,240 --> 02:08:22,040
Speaker 2: coming back, I just don't freaking get this. And then

3123
02:08:22,120 --> 02:08:23,840
Speaker 2: it's a five round Cole Maine event.

3124
02:08:24,000 --> 02:08:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not two.

3125
02:08:25,600 --> 02:08:28,200
Speaker 2: Thousand and eight, Nick Diaz. This isn't even twenty fifteen,

3126
02:08:28,280 --> 02:08:29,040
Speaker 2: Nick Diaz.

3127
02:08:28,920 --> 02:08:30,880
Speaker 1: And Luke is only thirty two years of age. But

3128
02:08:30,920 --> 02:08:33,200
Speaker 1: obviously a bit of damage battered opponent I think is

3129
02:08:33,200 --> 02:08:33,920
Speaker 1: a good way to put this.

3130
02:08:34,160 --> 02:08:36,680
Speaker 2: It isn't gained much getting a win here against Nick DYEA.

3131
02:08:36,840 --> 02:08:38,920
Speaker 1: It's a name opponent, certainly, but you're right now, I

3132
02:08:39,000 --> 02:08:40,360
Speaker 1: know what you mean. I fully agree when with The

3133
02:08:40,400 --> 02:08:42,320
Speaker 1: weirdest part about it, of course, is also on this card,

3134
02:08:42,360 --> 02:08:44,720
Speaker 1: it was announced Tony Ferguson is back at one hundred

3135
02:08:44,720 --> 02:08:47,120
Speaker 1: and seventy pounds against Michael Kisa. Now I understand that

3136
02:08:47,240 --> 02:08:49,960
Speaker 1: matchmaking a little bit because you just would imagine that's

3137
02:08:50,000 --> 02:08:53,680
Speaker 1: going to be a grappling bout. Kiesa has proven susceptible

3138
02:08:53,720 --> 02:08:57,160
Speaker 1: over time to the dars, which is something that historically anyway,

3139
02:08:57,240 --> 02:08:58,840
Speaker 1: Tony has been good at. If you look at the

3140
02:08:59,040 --> 02:09:01,400
Speaker 1: ground and pound of a guy I like, just leave

3141
02:09:01,400 --> 02:09:02,680
Speaker 1: it alone. If you look at the ground and pound

3142
02:09:02,680 --> 02:09:04,840
Speaker 1: of a guy like Kisa, he doesn't dish out a

3143
02:09:04,920 --> 02:09:08,400
Speaker 1: lot of physical punishment. It's more position and then submission

3144
02:09:08,480 --> 02:09:11,160
Speaker 1: along the way. So I don't think it's necessarily in

3145
02:09:11,280 --> 02:09:14,360
Speaker 1: that sense, the most dangerous fight. But everyone's asking, if

3146
02:09:14,400 --> 02:09:15,920
Speaker 1: you have a forty one year old Nick Diaz and

3147
02:09:15,960 --> 02:09:18,520
Speaker 1: a forty year old Tony Ferguson on the same card,

3148
02:09:18,560 --> 02:09:20,720
Speaker 1: why aren't you just doing that? My guess is someone

3149
02:09:20,880 --> 02:09:22,080
Speaker 1: one of the two declined it.

3150
02:09:22,200 --> 02:09:23,520
Speaker 2: It had to be there I was one of them

3151
02:09:23,560 --> 02:09:26,280
Speaker 2: not fighting Jim Miller or or Matt Brown for one

3152
02:09:26,360 --> 02:09:28,960
Speaker 2: more Like, it's just like that part doesn't make sense.

3153
02:09:29,600 --> 02:09:31,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to see it. I mean, I'm so

3154
02:09:31,240 --> 02:09:34,200
Speaker 2: I'm so done with this experience now. Like if we

3155
02:09:34,320 --> 02:09:36,720
Speaker 2: had if I had proof that Nick was in a

3156
02:09:36,800 --> 02:09:39,680
Speaker 2: great place and he was fighting Connor McGregor or GSP

3157
02:09:39,840 --> 02:09:41,760
Speaker 2: like it seemed like he wanted per Ario Luke, that

3158
02:09:41,840 --> 02:09:44,520
Speaker 2: he he wanted aggressively that to that be the fight.

3159
02:09:44,600 --> 02:09:47,040
Speaker 2: I go, Okay, I guess, I guess right. I don't

3160
02:09:47,040 --> 02:09:48,200
Speaker 2: get this, so I'm not supporting it.

3161
02:09:48,400 --> 02:09:50,480
Speaker 1: I will say, what about the return of Tony Ferguson.

3162
02:09:52,080 --> 02:09:53,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he's seven at seven in a row.

3163
02:09:53,600 --> 02:09:55,280
Speaker 2: He has had life lately, but that should not be

3164
02:09:55,400 --> 02:09:57,400
Speaker 2: enough to keep somebody. I feel like they still feel

3165
02:09:57,480 --> 02:09:58,600
Speaker 2: bad and feel like they owe him.

3166
02:09:58,680 --> 02:10:01,200
Speaker 1: Dana said when he announced it, it's in all likelihood

3167
02:10:01,280 --> 02:10:04,520
Speaker 1: his last certainly UFC fight. I'm hoping his last overall fight.

3168
02:10:04,560 --> 02:10:06,600
Speaker 1: But b see if they if they let him go,

3169
02:10:06,840 --> 02:10:09,240
Speaker 1: BKFC might come calling. Dude, how does Jake Paul not

3170
02:10:09,400 --> 02:10:10,760
Speaker 1: take that fight? Seriously?

3171
02:10:11,640 --> 02:10:14,760
Speaker 2: Jake Paul is probably the nice difference is monstrous because Jake's.

3172
02:10:14,520 --> 02:10:16,920
Speaker 1: A heavyweight, okay, but they can make that work. And also,

3173
02:10:17,040 --> 02:10:18,800
Speaker 1: I mean they I thought Woodley. Woodley was a big

3174
02:10:18,800 --> 02:10:21,600
Speaker 1: one seven year okay, fair enough, but still also Nick Diaz.

3175
02:10:21,640 --> 02:10:23,600
Speaker 1: If Nick Diaz gets cut, you don't think Jake Paul's

3176
02:10:23,600 --> 02:10:24,640
Speaker 1: looking at a Nick Diaz fight.

3177
02:10:24,800 --> 02:10:26,840
Speaker 2: I just don't get how many people watch that Robbi

3178
02:10:26,880 --> 02:10:29,280
Speaker 2: Lawler rematch and we're like, yeah, Nick Diaz, let's do

3179
02:10:29,320 --> 02:10:31,920
Speaker 2: it again. And then we're also like, all right, luk,

3180
02:10:32,040 --> 02:10:33,840
Speaker 2: I'll do this, Like I don't I don't get that looke.

3181
02:10:33,960 --> 02:10:36,640
Speaker 2: Like I am a connoisseur of some carnival shit, but

3182
02:10:36,840 --> 02:10:39,280
Speaker 2: like this, this is I don't BC.

3183
02:10:40,120 --> 02:10:42,720
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the UFC gloves as well. I mean,

3184
02:10:42,720 --> 02:10:44,680
Speaker 1: you know what. Hold, let's let's actually back up a step.

3185
02:10:45,000 --> 02:10:48,560
Speaker 1: Let's talk about staff. There has been belief that both

3186
02:10:48,760 --> 02:10:52,360
Speaker 1: Islam and Paul Acosta have staff. Show the picture, Okay,

3187
02:10:52,360 --> 02:10:53,680
Speaker 1: here's what I'm gonna say. The one on the left

3188
02:10:53,760 --> 02:10:55,960
Speaker 1: is Islam, the one on the right is paul A Costa.

3189
02:10:56,800 --> 02:10:59,720
Speaker 1: I cannot I'm not a doctor. I cannot affirmative, affirmative,

3190
02:10:59,800 --> 02:11:01,600
Speaker 1: lead the clear anything. I will say this, The one

3191
02:11:01,720 --> 02:11:05,240
Speaker 1: on Islam looks like it is staff that has sense

3192
02:11:05,360 --> 02:11:07,800
Speaker 1: healed for quite some time. I don't think it's fresh

3193
02:11:07,840 --> 02:11:10,040
Speaker 1: staff at all, maybe like a week or two old

3194
02:11:10,120 --> 02:11:12,400
Speaker 1: in terms of being over the worst of it. The

3195
02:11:12,480 --> 02:11:14,600
Speaker 1: one on Paulo Costa's foot. If you actually look look

3196
02:11:14,640 --> 02:11:16,400
Speaker 1: over the rest of the toes, it looks like someone

3197
02:11:16,440 --> 02:11:17,880
Speaker 1: put out a cigarette over the other ones.

3198
02:11:18,040 --> 02:11:19,960
Speaker 2: Those toes are still better than mine. I gotta be honest.

3199
02:11:20,080 --> 02:11:21,480
Speaker 2: That's Matt Burn presentation wise.

3200
02:11:21,600 --> 02:11:22,000
Speaker 1: Let me finish.

3201
02:11:22,040 --> 02:11:23,680
Speaker 2: That's to put it on the on the table.

3202
02:11:23,760 --> 02:11:26,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, please, that's Matt Burn. So I don't know if

3203
02:11:26,680 --> 02:11:28,880
Speaker 1: he has staff. He definitely looks to me a little

3204
02:11:28,920 --> 02:11:31,760
Speaker 1: bit more like Matt Burn along the way either way,

3205
02:11:31,840 --> 02:11:32,720
Speaker 1: be see, I.

3206
02:11:32,720 --> 02:11:35,600
Speaker 2: Mean, presentation wise, he's still yours are really bad. We

3207
02:11:35,720 --> 02:11:38,800
Speaker 2: get you know what. I should it right here, But

3208
02:11:38,920 --> 02:11:40,440
Speaker 2: we should. I'm just gonna give you the side of you.

3209
02:11:40,560 --> 02:11:41,400
Speaker 2: We should save it for.

3210
02:11:41,440 --> 02:11:43,840
Speaker 1: The foot off, foot off, Yes, say it the loser.

3211
02:11:43,920 --> 02:11:46,480
Speaker 2: I can't figure out if the loser or winner should

3212
02:11:46,520 --> 02:11:49,000
Speaker 2: get a what do you call that? I want a

3213
02:11:49,120 --> 02:11:51,440
Speaker 2: petty what not?

3214
02:11:51,560 --> 02:11:53,440
Speaker 1: Pedicure? Not coach and pedicure?

3215
02:11:53,480 --> 02:11:54,840
Speaker 2: Pedicure Is that what it's called?

3216
02:11:54,920 --> 02:11:55,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, manicure and a pedicure.

3217
02:11:56,040 --> 02:11:57,520
Speaker 2: I think the I think both of us should get

3218
02:11:57,520 --> 02:11:59,400
Speaker 2: that if we're willing to embarrass ourselves publicly.

3219
02:11:59,520 --> 02:12:02,760
Speaker 1: My wife has begged me to get one, begged me.

3220
02:12:04,000 --> 02:12:06,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, so what were we talking about again, Luke.

3221
02:12:06,520 --> 02:12:08,440
Speaker 1: Staff, do you feel like this is probably the second

3222
02:12:08,480 --> 02:12:12,160
Speaker 1: opponent that I gotta asking a row that has staff.

3223
02:12:11,920 --> 02:12:13,680
Speaker 2: Well, I gotta ask you honest question in line with that,

3224
02:12:14,760 --> 02:12:17,320
Speaker 2: does Poorier knock out BSD without staph infection?

3225
02:12:18,920 --> 02:12:22,760
Speaker 1: It's still possible because he's reckless, cannot rule it out.

3226
02:12:23,840 --> 02:12:25,680
Speaker 1: I tend to think probably not, And I know everyone's

3227
02:12:25,680 --> 02:12:27,320
Speaker 1: gonna kill me. Oh fuck you picked against the blah

3228
02:12:27,360 --> 02:12:29,520
Speaker 1: blah bluh, Yeah I did. I think BSD is reckless.

3229
02:12:29,600 --> 02:12:32,960
Speaker 2: But let me present a potential scenario for you after

3230
02:12:33,080 --> 02:12:34,920
Speaker 2: I spent the first forty five minutes of the show

3231
02:12:35,000 --> 02:12:37,000
Speaker 2: telling you that, damn, I love Dustin Poier. He's an

3232
02:12:37,000 --> 02:12:39,320
Speaker 2: American hero, but Damn, I can't talk myself into a

3233
02:12:39,440 --> 02:12:41,520
Speaker 2: true angle for him to do what we want him

3234
02:12:41,560 --> 02:12:43,640
Speaker 2: to do, which is activate our heartstrings and pull on

3235
02:12:43,760 --> 02:12:47,600
Speaker 2: it and end his career on top right pinion of him.

3236
02:12:48,400 --> 02:12:54,440
Speaker 2: But Luke Thomas, what if the staff compromises Islam like

3237
02:12:54,520 --> 02:12:57,280
Speaker 2: it actually did be SD? Although Islam answered the question,

3238
02:12:57,320 --> 02:12:58,920
Speaker 2: I thought in a great way when the fan asked

3239
02:12:58,960 --> 02:13:00,520
Speaker 2: him at Press comforts up there is and said, I'm

3240
02:13:00,520 --> 02:13:01,960
Speaker 2: gonna be fine no matter what. Don't worry about it.

3241
02:13:01,960 --> 02:13:02,760
Speaker 2: And he's not an excuse guy.

3242
02:13:02,760 --> 02:13:03,320
Speaker 3: He's not gonna come.

3243
02:13:03,240 --> 02:13:06,040
Speaker 2: Out there and rag about it. But look, are you

3244
02:13:06,120 --> 02:13:10,600
Speaker 2: prepared for this potential other world reality where Dustin Pourier

3245
02:13:10,720 --> 02:13:13,880
Speaker 2: finds a way to focus on that staff infection and

3246
02:13:14,040 --> 02:13:18,600
Speaker 2: stops Islam and wins the title, And then at UFC

3247
02:13:19,280 --> 02:13:23,680
Speaker 2: three three, Connor McGregor knocks out Michael Chandler and then

3248
02:13:23,720 --> 02:13:26,480
Speaker 2: we get Dustin Connor four for the lightweight title.

3249
02:13:27,040 --> 02:13:28,360
Speaker 1: I mean, chriss possible.

3250
02:13:28,480 --> 02:13:31,640
Speaker 2: It's actually big set up, kind of indcly right.

3251
02:13:31,840 --> 02:13:34,240
Speaker 1: It is absolutely one billion percent possible.

3252
02:13:34,280 --> 02:13:36,520
Speaker 2: I don't think it'll change the main event on Saturday,

3253
02:13:36,880 --> 02:13:39,240
Speaker 2: But are you concerned at all? Should we be looking

3254
02:13:39,280 --> 02:13:42,720
Speaker 2: out for any reason that we'll see Islam sluggish or

3255
02:13:42,880 --> 02:13:45,840
Speaker 2: fatigued more because of this, or have a weird thing

3256
02:13:45,920 --> 02:13:48,080
Speaker 2: on his peck like the thing is.

3257
02:13:48,400 --> 02:13:51,360
Speaker 1: We both predicted a third round stoppage. I will say this,

3258
02:13:51,560 --> 02:13:53,360
Speaker 1: if he can't get him out of there in three,

3259
02:13:54,800 --> 02:13:56,520
Speaker 1: then it will be a really kind of interesting question,

3260
02:13:56,600 --> 02:13:59,400
Speaker 1: because what does he have after that championship round? Does

3261
02:13:59,440 --> 02:14:02,240
Speaker 1: he like if this really was staff, you're going to

3262
02:14:02,320 --> 02:14:03,880
Speaker 1: see that at the end of the third and the

3263
02:14:03,920 --> 02:14:05,320
Speaker 1: beginning of the fourth, or if he even goes to

3264
02:14:05,360 --> 02:14:06,920
Speaker 1: the fifth, you're going to see a big time there.

3265
02:14:07,360 --> 02:14:08,840
Speaker 1: So just a question of how long the fight goes.

3266
02:14:08,880 --> 02:14:11,520
Speaker 1: There's a way which he actually is really suffering, and

3267
02:14:11,600 --> 02:14:14,840
Speaker 1: we just don't ever actually see it by virtue of

3268
02:14:14,880 --> 02:14:16,400
Speaker 1: the way the fight itself goes.

3269
02:14:17,200 --> 02:14:18,840
Speaker 2: That makes sense, I guess, I guess.

3270
02:14:18,880 --> 02:14:20,840
Speaker 1: All right, let let's move this along if we can.

3271
02:14:21,960 --> 02:14:28,200
Speaker 1: So there's been a lot of comments about the gloves.

3272
02:14:29,280 --> 02:14:31,440
Speaker 1: Let's go side by side view of it. The first

3273
02:14:31,480 --> 02:14:33,080
Speaker 1: card with the new gloves, the first card with the

3274
02:14:33,120 --> 02:14:35,000
Speaker 1: new gloves us see three to zero two. So the

3275
02:14:35,080 --> 02:14:37,080
Speaker 1: one in this gentleman on the left of the screen

3276
02:14:37,160 --> 02:14:38,960
Speaker 1: is the old one. On the right of the screen

3277
02:14:39,080 --> 02:14:41,800
Speaker 1: is the new one the right one. So you can

3278
02:14:41,840 --> 02:14:43,760
Speaker 1: see the profiles a little bit smaller as an extra

3279
02:14:43,920 --> 02:14:47,400
Speaker 1: bend in it along the way is a little bit.

3280
02:14:47,760 --> 02:14:50,680
Speaker 1: I can say this. It's a little lighter. It's closer

3281
02:14:50,720 --> 02:14:52,320
Speaker 1: to three and a half ounce, is not four or

3282
02:14:52,320 --> 02:14:52,960
Speaker 1: even five and six?

3283
02:14:53,120 --> 02:14:55,000
Speaker 2: What does that mean for handbreaking. Will we see more?

3284
02:14:55,160 --> 02:14:56,560
Speaker 1: Well, this is what I mean. Let me just say

3285
02:14:56,560 --> 02:14:58,160
Speaker 1: something here because I you know what, let's do this.

3286
02:14:58,440 --> 02:15:01,080
Speaker 1: Let's play Sean Strickland's comments about it because he doesn't

3287
02:15:01,080 --> 02:15:02,760
Speaker 1: like them. Let's see what he has to say. So also,

3288
02:15:02,840 --> 02:15:04,120
Speaker 1: the first time that you know we're gonna have the

3289
02:15:04,160 --> 02:15:06,960
Speaker 1: new UFC gloves, and Islam was saying, you know they

3290
02:15:07,040 --> 02:15:09,040
Speaker 1: might lead to more cuts because they yeah, they smaller.

3291
02:15:09,120 --> 02:15:09,720
Speaker 1: Yeah you don't like them?

3292
02:15:09,800 --> 02:15:11,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, they suck dude, I don't know who, like I

3293
02:15:12,040 --> 02:15:14,280
Speaker 7: really can we talk to the person who designed these gloves?

3294
02:15:14,360 --> 02:15:16,320
Speaker 2: Have you ever been in a fight in your fucking life?

3295
02:15:17,200 --> 02:15:19,920
Speaker 7: It's like it's like you get these fucking dorks have

3296
02:15:20,040 --> 02:15:21,600
Speaker 7: no idea and they're like, oh, this sounds like a

3297
02:15:21,640 --> 02:15:23,760
Speaker 7: good idea, and they make it. Same thing with motorcycles,

3298
02:15:23,800 --> 02:15:25,760
Speaker 7: Like I bought motorcycles and they put so much stupid

3299
02:15:25,800 --> 02:15:28,320
Speaker 7: shit on it, Like, how did you asshole think this

3300
02:15:28,440 --> 02:15:28,960
Speaker 7: was a good idea?

3301
02:15:29,000 --> 02:15:31,320
Speaker 8: So ya know, they absolutely suck you. So you dropped

3302
02:15:31,320 --> 02:15:33,080
Speaker 8: the ball in that one. Can you expand a little

3303
02:15:33,120 --> 02:15:37,000
Speaker 8: bit on why you don't like the gloves, the new gloves, like, well,

3304
02:15:37,160 --> 02:15:39,200
Speaker 8: I were well one, I mean the ones they gave

3305
02:15:39,240 --> 02:15:40,920
Speaker 8: me to small side to go up his size. But

3306
02:15:42,160 --> 02:15:44,920
Speaker 8: I think they what was he what was the reasoning that, uh,

3307
02:15:45,280 --> 02:15:46,840
Speaker 8: they wanted to try to make it so people stop

3308
02:15:46,960 --> 02:15:50,360
Speaker 8: poking people in the eyes. I think so less cuts,

3309
02:15:50,360 --> 02:15:52,640
Speaker 8: even though Islam said they're gonna have more cuts, Well.

3310
02:15:52,560 --> 02:15:55,000
Speaker 7: They're they're a little bit more like a stitched and

3311
02:15:55,240 --> 02:15:59,040
Speaker 7: the today people people fucking get poked in the eyes

3312
02:15:59,040 --> 02:16:01,480
Speaker 7: because they open their fuck in hands. Unless you put

3313
02:16:01,480 --> 02:16:03,360
Speaker 7: a boxing glove on, that shit's not going to stop.

3314
02:16:03,440 --> 02:16:07,120
Speaker 7: So it's just people creating a problem that we.

3315
02:16:07,200 --> 02:16:07,680
Speaker 4: Did not have.

3316
02:16:08,040 --> 02:16:09,520
Speaker 7: If you get cut because you get hit in the

3317
02:16:09,560 --> 02:16:11,080
Speaker 7: fucking head, don't get hit in the fucking hey, you

3318
02:16:11,120 --> 02:16:12,880
Speaker 7: don't get cut, you get poked in the eyes because

3319
02:16:12,880 --> 02:16:14,560
Speaker 7: you fucking open your hands. Don't open your hands, you

3320
02:16:14,560 --> 02:16:16,720
Speaker 7: won't get poked in the eye. So just you know,

3321
02:16:17,040 --> 02:16:19,600
Speaker 7: as as people creating problems and aren't there.

3322
02:16:21,520 --> 02:16:24,280
Speaker 2: But we did need an improvement from the lost gloves

3323
02:16:24,360 --> 02:16:26,600
Speaker 2: that had detailed issues.

3324
02:16:26,960 --> 02:16:31,000
Speaker 1: UFC does not have to deal with a player's union because.

3325
02:16:30,800 --> 02:16:32,520
Speaker 2: He would know better than we would. I'm not I'm

3326
02:16:32,560 --> 02:16:36,440
Speaker 2: not arguing against his take that they're worse, but did

3327
02:16:36,480 --> 02:16:38,560
Speaker 2: they address the concerns that were aimed at.

3328
02:16:38,680 --> 02:16:40,000
Speaker 1: This is this is what I think people have to

3329
02:16:40,040 --> 02:16:40,640
Speaker 1: really wake up to.

3330
02:16:40,800 --> 02:16:40,959
Speaker 4: There.

3331
02:16:41,200 --> 02:16:44,040
Speaker 1: As I just said, there is no fighters union. So

3332
02:16:44,080 --> 02:16:46,080
Speaker 1: when the UFC wants to roll out in equipment change,

3333
02:16:46,080 --> 02:16:47,880
Speaker 1: which is like the Rebok deal, when they want to

3334
02:16:47,959 --> 02:16:53,040
Speaker 1: roll out any new thing, new gloves, whatever, there's no

3335
02:16:53,560 --> 02:16:56,920
Speaker 1: athlete committee, there's no athlete representative that they really have

3336
02:16:57,040 --> 02:16:59,879
Speaker 1: to work with in conjunction to do any of these things.

3337
02:17:00,000 --> 02:17:02,480
Speaker 1: There's nothing that is enabling them to have any kind

3338
02:17:02,520 --> 02:17:04,800
Speaker 1: of say over this. So they just sing with you

3339
02:17:04,879 --> 02:17:06,600
Speaker 1: saw it. They roll out the policy, they're like, oh,

3340
02:17:06,680 --> 02:17:08,960
Speaker 1: we asked the fighters if they were in favor of that,

3341
02:17:09,080 --> 02:17:10,880
Speaker 1: but that's just simply not true, not in any kind

3342
02:17:10,879 --> 02:17:12,800
Speaker 1: of meaningful way. And then of course what do you

3343
02:17:12,840 --> 02:17:15,360
Speaker 1: find BC over time? They have to make adjustments over time.

3344
02:17:15,879 --> 02:17:18,400
Speaker 1: I will say this, we simply don't have enough information

3345
02:17:18,520 --> 02:17:20,840
Speaker 1: to know if these gloves are good or bad. The

3346
02:17:20,879 --> 02:17:24,120
Speaker 1: skepticism from the fighters gives me some pause, but let's

3347
02:17:24,240 --> 02:17:28,160
Speaker 1: ultimately see what they what the data really shows about cuts,

3348
02:17:28,600 --> 02:17:32,120
Speaker 1: about ipokes, anything else is trying to solve for handbrakes.

3349
02:17:32,440 --> 02:17:34,440
Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna say this, all of this, this

3350
02:17:34,520 --> 02:17:36,720
Speaker 1: is what I mean about like not doing anything to

3351
02:17:36,840 --> 02:17:39,640
Speaker 1: help themselves any kind of equipment change. They should be

3352
02:17:39,680 --> 02:17:41,200
Speaker 1: able to have some kind of say over, and they

3353
02:17:41,240 --> 02:17:42,279
Speaker 1: don't because they chose.

3354
02:17:42,120 --> 02:17:44,960
Speaker 2: The oars launch in the Dana White Contender series or

3355
02:17:45,120 --> 02:17:45,920
Speaker 2: on the region.

3356
02:17:46,280 --> 02:17:47,920
Speaker 1: It just it just gets back to if you don't

3357
02:17:47,920 --> 02:17:51,080
Speaker 1: want a fighters union, complaining about gloves after the fact

3358
02:17:51,160 --> 02:17:53,039
Speaker 1: means fucking nothing. Nothing.

3359
02:17:53,160 --> 02:17:54,880
Speaker 2: I hope it works out for everyone. I really do

3360
02:17:55,080 --> 02:17:57,879
Speaker 2: in the end, Luke, but what about the gold ones?

3361
02:17:57,879 --> 02:17:59,840
Speaker 1: Though? That's just a color change?

3362
02:18:00,000 --> 02:18:00,760
Speaker 2: I know, but do you like that?

3363
02:18:01,280 --> 02:18:04,440
Speaker 1: I don't. I also don't understand why every short, short

3364
02:18:04,480 --> 02:18:06,440
Speaker 1: pair of shorts that Venom makes has to be loud.

3365
02:18:06,760 --> 02:18:08,160
Speaker 1: They're all like super loud.

3366
02:18:08,440 --> 02:18:10,680
Speaker 2: But it was Trevor Whitman. Didn't he have the blueprint

3367
02:18:10,680 --> 02:18:11,520
Speaker 2: for the better gloves?

3368
02:18:11,840 --> 02:18:14,800
Speaker 1: And it is believed that he does, But to my knowledge,

3369
02:18:14,840 --> 02:18:16,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any data that supports his

3370
02:18:16,840 --> 02:18:19,160
Speaker 1: work either. Which isn't say I'm speaking against it. I'm

3371
02:18:19,160 --> 02:18:22,000
Speaker 1: simply saying, what do we know from an evidence based perspective?

3372
02:18:22,000 --> 02:18:24,800
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what that answer is. Last, but not least,

3373
02:18:24,879 --> 02:18:28,680
Speaker 1: on Sean Strickland, he did a sit down with Daniel

3374
02:18:28,720 --> 02:18:32,080
Speaker 1: Cormier on his YouTube channel and spoke about UFC fighter pay.

3375
02:18:32,879 --> 02:18:35,400
Speaker 1: It certainly made some waves on social media. Here's what

3376
02:18:35,480 --> 02:18:35,959
Speaker 1: he had to say.

3377
02:18:36,440 --> 02:18:38,520
Speaker 7: But no, just doing the fucking right things, man Like,

3378
02:18:38,640 --> 02:18:40,959
Speaker 7: the UFC doesn't do the right things. It doesn't fucking

3379
02:18:41,040 --> 02:18:42,400
Speaker 7: do the right things. It doesn't do the right things.

3380
02:18:42,600 --> 02:18:46,560
Speaker 7: They're most rosters. Like if you go look at you know,

3381
02:18:46,640 --> 02:18:48,160
Speaker 7: if you go look at what these fucks are the

3382
02:18:48,200 --> 02:18:50,080
Speaker 7: guys that run, you see what they're making to what

3383
02:18:50,200 --> 02:18:52,320
Speaker 7: guys get paid is fucking shit, dude, they don't. The

3384
02:18:52,480 --> 02:18:56,360
Speaker 7: UFC does not do the fucking right things. And unless

3385
02:18:56,360 --> 02:18:58,760
Speaker 7: you hold him at fucking, you know, gunpoint, they ain't

3386
02:18:58,760 --> 02:18:59,440
Speaker 7: gonna fucking do it.

3387
02:19:01,480 --> 02:19:03,720
Speaker 2: I would love to have DC's response to that. What

3388
02:19:03,840 --> 02:19:06,400
Speaker 2: did he say? Because you know not much. This is

3389
02:19:06,480 --> 02:19:09,959
Speaker 2: where Strickland can become the hero that the fighters need

3390
02:19:10,120 --> 02:19:12,800
Speaker 2: because he has something to lose in risk by taking

3391
02:19:12,879 --> 02:19:16,160
Speaker 2: this stance and he doesn't seem to be wrong, and

3392
02:19:16,280 --> 02:19:19,080
Speaker 2: you need more people with something to lose to speak up,

3393
02:19:19,120 --> 02:19:21,960
Speaker 2: which no one does. I'm not surprised he is well,

3394
02:19:21,959 --> 02:19:22,480
Speaker 2: like I say.

3395
02:19:22,320 --> 02:19:24,880
Speaker 1: I am, I mean okay, but he did he not

3396
02:19:25,080 --> 02:19:27,000
Speaker 1: like a few fights to go say, I'm a company guy.

3397
02:19:26,959 --> 02:19:30,080
Speaker 2: Just does this fit the narrative that gets thrown a

3398
02:19:30,120 --> 02:19:32,000
Speaker 2: lot around, a lot that Dana hates him in the

3399
02:19:32,080 --> 02:19:34,400
Speaker 2: UFC doesn't want him on top because of some of

3400
02:19:34,480 --> 02:19:37,600
Speaker 2: the ali They are standing strong like we won't police

3401
02:19:37,600 --> 02:19:39,160
Speaker 2: our fighters. You know, we've been up and down that

3402
02:19:39,200 --> 02:19:42,039
Speaker 2: debate a million times. But now he's turned the corner

3403
02:19:42,080 --> 02:19:45,039
Speaker 2: and bring in some real truth. I wonder if they

3404
02:19:45,120 --> 02:19:47,480
Speaker 2: completely ignore it because they know that if they get

3405
02:19:47,520 --> 02:19:49,680
Speaker 2: into a war with him, he's just gonna keep He's

3406
02:19:49,680 --> 02:19:50,280
Speaker 2: gonna keep throwing.

3407
02:19:50,320 --> 02:19:50,720
Speaker 1: That's the thing.

3408
02:19:51,240 --> 02:19:54,199
Speaker 2: They're gonna lose these debates because the truth is mounled

3409
02:19:54,320 --> 02:19:57,000
Speaker 2: up against them. But they won the debate in court

3410
02:19:57,080 --> 02:20:00,640
Speaker 2: by paying to refuse a trial, and they was intimidation

3411
02:20:00,720 --> 02:20:04,720
Speaker 2: to shut people up. I don't you know, we haven't

3412
02:20:04,760 --> 02:20:07,840
Speaker 2: seen somebody we've seen like Randy Gator fight the good fight.

3413
02:20:07,920 --> 02:20:10,000
Speaker 2: We haven't seen somebody public with a microphone take it

3414
02:20:10,080 --> 02:20:12,400
Speaker 2: to this level. I wonder if they just ignored so

3415
02:20:12,440 --> 02:20:12,879
Speaker 2: it goes.

3416
02:20:12,720 --> 02:20:16,400
Speaker 1: Away, And maybe when was the last time a fighter

3417
02:20:16,560 --> 02:20:21,720
Speaker 1: complaining about pay meant serious question?

3418
02:20:22,320 --> 02:20:24,240
Speaker 2: When was the last anything?

3419
02:20:24,280 --> 02:20:28,720
Speaker 1: Francis and Gohano okay, but heat right because he left right,

3420
02:20:28,760 --> 02:20:30,640
Speaker 1: but he didn't fix UFC pay he just fixed his

3421
02:20:30,680 --> 02:20:33,840
Speaker 1: own pay by leaving. Yes, I meant change UFC pay.

3422
02:20:34,360 --> 02:20:36,320
Speaker 1: Was the last time anyone complained and.

3423
02:20:36,320 --> 02:20:38,160
Speaker 2: Got or didn't out of sign you get a huge

3424
02:20:38,360 --> 02:20:40,320
Speaker 2: raise when and got left, like didn't it. Then that

3425
02:20:40,360 --> 02:20:41,440
Speaker 2: create a little bit of a ripple.

3426
02:20:41,480 --> 02:20:43,840
Speaker 1: So the only time I can really think of was

3427
02:20:43,879 --> 02:20:46,600
Speaker 1: the case of TJ. Dillashaw and Donald Serrooney when they

3428
02:20:46,640 --> 02:20:49,120
Speaker 1: did the Double M Triple A with Bjorn Revne. And

3429
02:20:49,560 --> 02:20:51,320
Speaker 1: if you look at their contracts, they signed new contracts

3430
02:20:51,320 --> 02:20:52,879
Speaker 1: in the middle of what they already had was an

3431
02:20:52,920 --> 02:20:55,080
Speaker 1: existing one before they were on their last fight of

3432
02:20:55,120 --> 02:20:56,879
Speaker 1: their deal, and they got a big bump and pay

3433
02:20:56,959 --> 02:20:58,959
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. That kind of stuff has mattered, right

3434
02:20:59,040 --> 02:21:01,280
Speaker 1: let when you have leverage of them. Yeah, But short

3435
02:21:01,320 --> 02:21:03,560
Speaker 1: of that, it does nothing.

3436
02:21:03,879 --> 02:21:04,920
Speaker 2: I still respect this movie.

3437
02:21:05,000 --> 02:21:06,800
Speaker 1: I respect Don't get me wrong. It's not that I

3438
02:21:06,840 --> 02:21:10,119
Speaker 1: don't respect the the clarity of thought and really understanding

3439
02:21:10,160 --> 02:21:12,400
Speaker 1: what the power dynamics are and what the pay should be.

3440
02:21:12,480 --> 02:21:15,160
Speaker 1: I respect it in that sense absolutely. But I saw

3441
02:21:15,200 --> 02:21:16,720
Speaker 1: people being like, well, if you want to leave, if

3442
02:21:16,760 --> 02:21:18,080
Speaker 1: you don't like it, just leave. First of all, you

3443
02:21:18,160 --> 02:21:20,640
Speaker 1: can't like that, even though even though he's an AE

3444
02:21:20,680 --> 02:21:22,880
Speaker 1: beedded contractor. He is exclusive to one promoter. It's the

3445
02:21:22,879 --> 02:21:24,720
Speaker 1: first thing I'd say. And the second thing I'd say

3446
02:21:24,800 --> 02:21:27,920
Speaker 1: is for people being like, oh, well, you know this

3447
02:21:28,080 --> 02:21:30,440
Speaker 1: could disrupt and turn over the apple cart. It won't

3448
02:21:30,480 --> 02:21:34,040
Speaker 1: do fucking shit to the apple cart. It will everything

3449
02:21:34,240 --> 02:21:38,040
Speaker 1: is dude. I hope all the fighters are very happy

3450
02:21:38,120 --> 02:21:40,840
Speaker 1: with the arrangement that they have created for themselves because

3451
02:21:40,879 --> 02:21:43,439
Speaker 1: it ain't changed. Okay, what do you in my lifetime?

3452
02:21:43,560 --> 02:21:45,720
Speaker 2: What do you think would happen if Strickland wins. Let's

3453
02:21:45,720 --> 02:21:47,920
Speaker 2: say he thoroughly beats Costin wins, and we're waiting for

3454
02:21:47,959 --> 02:21:49,280
Speaker 2: the call out in the interview. Is you gonna call

3455
02:21:49,320 --> 02:21:53,240
Speaker 2: it DDP? I'm sonia? And instead he goes, Dana, take

3456
02:21:53,320 --> 02:21:56,520
Speaker 2: the fifty thousand bonus that I'm supposed to complain about

3457
02:21:56,520 --> 02:21:58,560
Speaker 2: and beg you for and shove it up your ass.

3458
02:21:58,560 --> 02:22:01,440
Speaker 2: It's about time we changed for the fighters. Does he

3459
02:22:01,600 --> 02:22:03,360
Speaker 2: just kind of get hung out to dry and not

3460
02:22:03,440 --> 02:22:05,760
Speaker 2: offer to fight for a while and or do just

3461
02:22:05,920 --> 02:22:08,320
Speaker 2: like because that's how changed. When you have to disrupt.

3462
02:22:08,400 --> 02:22:10,680
Speaker 2: He's a disruptor, and he's willing to disrupt in a

3463
02:22:10,760 --> 02:22:11,680
Speaker 2: lane that he believes in.

3464
02:22:11,720 --> 02:22:14,720
Speaker 1: And plays, not disrupting, it's not the same thing.

3465
02:22:15,080 --> 02:22:16,440
Speaker 2: So you'd have to try to hold out and then

3466
02:22:16,480 --> 02:22:17,640
Speaker 2: you would just get pushed down.

3467
02:22:17,520 --> 02:22:19,400
Speaker 1: And yeah, you would have to fall on your sword

3468
02:22:19,400 --> 02:22:21,080
Speaker 1: in all likelihood, which I understand why they don't want

3469
02:22:21,080 --> 02:22:23,680
Speaker 1: to do. But this is why, like voting for a union,

3470
02:22:23,760 --> 02:22:25,440
Speaker 1: you would not be falling on your sword, and they

3471
02:22:25,480 --> 02:22:26,320
Speaker 1: didn't do that either.

3472
02:22:26,360 --> 02:22:27,879
Speaker 2: Do you realize it's like once a week we get

3473
02:22:27,879 --> 02:22:30,200
Speaker 2: a UFC press release that's like, to their credit, we've

3474
02:22:30,240 --> 02:22:33,400
Speaker 2: signed another multimillion dollar partnership with this company.

3475
02:22:33,760 --> 02:22:34,640
Speaker 1: All they would have to do.

3476
02:22:34,720 --> 02:22:37,120
Speaker 2: One time is say, hey, guys, we've signed with this

3477
02:22:37,200 --> 02:22:39,240
Speaker 2: crypto thing you never heard of, and it's one hundred

3478
02:22:39,280 --> 02:22:40,920
Speaker 2: million dollar deal and we're going to give the whole

3479
02:22:41,000 --> 02:22:43,480
Speaker 2: thing to the fighters. Like if they just did stuff

3480
02:22:43,520 --> 02:22:45,760
Speaker 2: like that like once every five years, couldn't that just

3481
02:22:45,920 --> 02:22:48,120
Speaker 2: like chuck people up and I think people would shut up.

3482
02:22:48,120 --> 02:22:49,400
Speaker 2: They just don't even care about doing that.

3483
02:22:49,560 --> 02:22:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, like why do they? This is what I mean?

3484
02:22:51,360 --> 02:22:54,640
Speaker 1: It's like, what's what's Shawn Schuchlin complaining? Going to do nothing? Nothing?

3485
02:22:54,640 --> 02:22:57,480
Speaker 1: It will do nothing that. I respect it, I respect it,

3486
02:22:57,640 --> 02:23:02,040
Speaker 1: I respect I respect him. Understand that executive pay is

3487
02:23:02,280 --> 02:23:03,560
Speaker 1: this is not just true in the UFC, it's true

3488
02:23:03,600 --> 02:23:05,880
Speaker 1: more generally in the American economy that executive pay is

3489
02:23:05,920 --> 02:23:07,880
Speaker 1: out of control relative to what the people who actually

3490
02:23:07,920 --> 02:23:10,640
Speaker 1: make the stuff get paid. One percent, he's on the money.

3491
02:23:10,920 --> 02:23:12,960
Speaker 1: I just want to be clear complaining. I'm not saying

3492
02:23:12,959 --> 02:23:15,640
Speaker 1: he was like trying to be the hero to anybody.

3493
02:23:15,640 --> 02:23:17,920
Speaker 1: He was just speaking his mind. But for people who

3494
02:23:17,920 --> 02:23:19,360
Speaker 1: are like, oh, what's the UFC going to do about it?

3495
02:23:19,440 --> 02:23:21,480
Speaker 1: Fucking nothing, they don't care. Doesn't mean shit to him.

3496
02:23:21,720 --> 02:23:24,240
Speaker 1: They don't care at all that fighters complain. It does

3497
02:23:24,720 --> 02:23:27,720
Speaker 1: nothing to their business. So let them complain. I think

3498
02:23:27,760 --> 02:23:30,960
Speaker 1: that's the UFC's perspective anyway. All right, all right, BC,

3499
02:23:31,120 --> 02:23:33,240
Speaker 1: With that in mind, we have a one last thing

3500
02:23:33,280 --> 02:23:34,440
Speaker 1: to get to, which is the boxing.

3501
02:23:34,840 --> 02:23:35,760
Speaker 2: Somebody's gonna bang.

3502
02:23:36,320 --> 02:23:38,400
Speaker 1: So why don't you set this up? What is happening

3503
02:23:38,480 --> 02:23:40,160
Speaker 1: in riodd Saudi Arabia. It was supposed to be the

3504
02:23:40,160 --> 02:23:41,160
Speaker 1: better Beef Bivall fight.

3505
02:23:41,360 --> 02:23:44,440
Speaker 2: Yes, Bivall is still on the card, fighting a guy

3506
02:23:44,520 --> 02:23:46,440
Speaker 2: no one's ever heard of. To stay busy, but it's

3507
02:23:46,480 --> 02:23:47,320
Speaker 2: cool that he's still on the card.

3508
02:23:47,320 --> 02:23:48,960
Speaker 1: I guess defending him first of all, do we know

3509
02:23:49,080 --> 02:23:51,760
Speaker 1: when that fight is going to be rebooked the.

3510
02:23:51,800 --> 02:23:53,640
Speaker 2: Better Beef one. Yeah, I think the injury is going

3511
02:23:53,680 --> 02:23:56,080
Speaker 2: to take a little bit. So I'm thinking with this

3512
02:23:56,240 --> 02:23:58,760
Speaker 2: year without having knowledge that it's probably gonna be or

3513
02:23:58,800 --> 02:24:00,160
Speaker 2: maybe I don't know. Let me, I don't don't know

3514
02:24:00,200 --> 02:24:01,480
Speaker 2: that answer. I think they would love to slip it

3515
02:24:01,520 --> 02:24:04,000
Speaker 2: in before the end of the year. Turkeylo. She did announce,

3516
02:24:04,040 --> 02:24:05,840
Speaker 2: by the way, that the Fury Usik rematch will take

3517
02:24:05,879 --> 02:24:07,800
Speaker 2: place se so, but.

3518
02:24:07,879 --> 02:24:10,280
Speaker 1: The big news, of course, the big fight anyway is

3519
02:24:10,720 --> 02:24:11,560
Speaker 1: Deontay Wilder.

3520
02:24:11,640 --> 02:24:14,880
Speaker 2: It's in the afternoon from Kingdom Arena and riadd it

3521
02:24:14,920 --> 02:24:16,760
Speaker 2: to his own pay per view. I like it because

3522
02:24:17,000 --> 02:24:18,840
Speaker 2: I like that they've committed to this five on five thing,

3523
02:24:18,879 --> 02:24:20,840
Speaker 2: because even though it doesn't touch us as American fans

3524
02:24:20,879 --> 02:24:24,240
Speaker 2: as deeply to see long time rivals Eddie hern and

3525
02:24:24,720 --> 02:24:27,920
Speaker 2: uh and from Queensberry Frank Warren go head to head

3526
02:24:27,920 --> 02:24:30,200
Speaker 2: with her five fighters and Luke. To be fair, the

3527
02:24:30,280 --> 02:24:32,600
Speaker 2: captain of the matchroom team is Deontay Wilder, who is

3528
02:24:32,640 --> 02:24:34,480
Speaker 2: not even a matroom fighter and was sort of a

3529
02:24:34,520 --> 02:24:37,240
Speaker 2: wild card selection. But even with this card kind of

3530
02:24:37,280 --> 02:24:39,440
Speaker 2: falling apart, they've propped it back up and kept it there.

3531
02:24:39,600 --> 02:24:43,360
Speaker 2: Put Wilder versus Jean Jeel, jilllel Jiang excuse me in

3532
02:24:43,440 --> 02:24:45,560
Speaker 2: the main event and Luke as we get closer after

3533
02:24:45,560 --> 02:24:48,040
Speaker 2: I've written a couple of previews for CBS Sports. This

3534
02:24:48,240 --> 02:24:51,320
Speaker 2: is a creative, really fun heavyweight fight. It matters. It's

3535
02:24:51,360 --> 02:24:55,080
Speaker 2: in a season of Saudi just continuing this commitment to

3536
02:24:55,080 --> 02:24:58,240
Speaker 2: the heavyweight division and boxing in general. You got some

3537
02:24:58,400 --> 02:25:00,800
Speaker 2: interesting matchups from this five on five overall that are

3538
02:25:00,879 --> 02:25:04,280
Speaker 2: worth picking apart, especially whether you're hardcore casual, but just

3539
02:25:04,440 --> 02:25:07,680
Speaker 2: the violent potential, the tense stalking that we're gonna see

3540
02:25:07,959 --> 02:25:10,240
Speaker 2: for as long as it lasts between Deontay Wilder and

3541
02:25:10,360 --> 02:25:13,360
Speaker 2: Big BEng Jang. Dude, you gotta watch this fight, you guys.

3542
02:25:13,360 --> 02:25:16,160
Speaker 2: This is gonna be wild, weird, slow at times, crazy

3543
02:25:16,240 --> 02:25:18,560
Speaker 2: at other times. The fact that Wilder already has a

3544
02:25:18,600 --> 02:25:21,400
Speaker 2: fight schedule August third against Jared Big Baby Anderson, the

3545
02:25:21,480 --> 02:25:24,600
Speaker 2: unfeating American heavyweight prospect, and is being groomed to fight

3546
02:25:24,640 --> 02:25:26,920
Speaker 2: Anthony Joshua if he wins both or I guess in

3547
02:25:27,000 --> 02:25:30,120
Speaker 2: theory doesn't look bad in both, because you know, look,

3548
02:25:30,200 --> 02:25:32,760
Speaker 2: Turkey Alischka's boxing Santa Claus and they're just giving us

3549
02:25:32,800 --> 02:25:35,280
Speaker 2: everything we ever thought we wanted I didn't realize how

3550
02:25:35,360 --> 02:25:37,160
Speaker 2: much I kind of want this fight. Both guys are

3551
02:25:37,200 --> 02:25:39,920
Speaker 2: coming off direct losses to Joseph Parker in the last

3552
02:25:40,000 --> 02:25:43,360
Speaker 2: four months. Both have huge flaws. We don't know if

3553
02:25:43,400 --> 02:25:45,240
Speaker 2: Deontay Wilder is going to bounce back and be the

3554
02:25:45,360 --> 02:25:47,280
Speaker 2: same because when we saw him four months ago or

3555
02:25:47,280 --> 02:25:50,200
Speaker 2: six months ago, after that ayahuasca retwreat he just did

3556
02:25:50,320 --> 02:25:52,879
Speaker 2: not have it anymore, did not have the killer instinct. Well,

3557
02:25:52,920 --> 02:25:54,640
Speaker 2: now he says, I'm going back to trying to get

3558
02:25:54,680 --> 02:25:56,280
Speaker 2: a body in the in the ring, and he's going

3559
02:25:56,320 --> 02:25:59,480
Speaker 2: for the knockout. But Luke as good as Joelle Jang

3560
02:25:59,520 --> 02:26:02,200
Speaker 2: has done rebuilding his career the last few years, He's

3561
02:26:02,320 --> 02:26:05,320
Speaker 2: forty one and never had championships. Stamming up, he could

3562
02:26:05,400 --> 02:26:10,600
Speaker 2: run into a bomb squad delivery late in this fight easily. Dude,

3563
02:26:10,640 --> 02:26:12,600
Speaker 2: where do you lean on this? Outside of the fact

3564
02:26:12,600 --> 02:26:13,600
Speaker 2: that it's gonna they're gonna bang.

3565
02:26:13,720 --> 02:26:15,760
Speaker 1: This fight is interesting. You had Deontay Wilder who went

3566
02:26:15,800 --> 02:26:19,560
Speaker 1: out on his shield and the third Tyson Fury fight

3567
02:26:20,520 --> 02:26:23,520
Speaker 1: took I know he looked good against Robert Helenius, and then.

3568
02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:25,240
Speaker 2: That was one round in two years, one round.

3569
02:26:25,040 --> 02:26:27,000
Speaker 1: In two years, knocked him out with former sporting partner,

3570
02:26:27,680 --> 02:26:30,600
Speaker 1: and then obviously came back against Joseph Parker and looked

3571
02:26:30,920 --> 02:26:34,960
Speaker 1: like shit, looked aterrible, disinterested, He got he nearly got

3572
02:26:35,000 --> 02:26:37,400
Speaker 1: finished at one point in the fight, how skinny. He

3573
02:26:37,600 --> 02:26:40,600
Speaker 1: just did not look at all like the Deontay Wilder

3574
02:26:40,920 --> 02:26:42,640
Speaker 1: we had previously seen and we were used to him

3575
02:26:42,680 --> 02:26:45,480
Speaker 1: losing rounds. Remember I think he was down six nothing

3576
02:26:45,520 --> 02:26:47,840
Speaker 1: in terms of rounds against Louis Ortiz and then he

3577
02:26:47,920 --> 02:26:50,560
Speaker 1: just you know, crushed him with the one Yeah, crushed

3578
02:26:50,600 --> 02:26:52,360
Speaker 1: him with the one nuclear shot, So that okay, whatever,

3579
02:26:52,720 --> 02:26:55,560
Speaker 1: but there was just none of that. Okay. The other

3580
02:26:55,640 --> 02:26:58,680
Speaker 1: part is Jang looked good against Joe Joyce, not once but.

3581
02:26:58,800 --> 02:27:01,440
Speaker 2: Twice, knocking him out, and then he looked like.

3582
02:27:01,480 --> 02:27:03,959
Speaker 1: Shit against Joseph. Well, he knocked down Joseph Parker hit

3583
02:27:04,000 --> 02:27:06,640
Speaker 1: a moment in the fight, especially in that third, but

3584
02:27:06,720 --> 02:27:08,680
Speaker 1: then after that just kind of hit the brakes.

3585
02:27:08,440 --> 02:27:11,039
Speaker 2: The whole time. He doesn't have the right stamina yet.

3586
02:27:11,160 --> 02:27:15,320
Speaker 1: He's what forty one forty one and Wilder thirty eight

3587
02:27:15,400 --> 02:27:19,200
Speaker 1: years of age. Dude, this is a monster fight, at

3588
02:27:19,320 --> 02:27:21,800
Speaker 1: least in the sense of what the fuck do these

3589
02:27:21,840 --> 02:27:23,800
Speaker 1: two guys have left if anything.

3590
02:27:23,720 --> 02:27:26,280
Speaker 2: Well, if Zang wins, which is very possible, he might

3591
02:27:26,320 --> 02:27:28,440
Speaker 2: get Anthony Joshua next because we also have on this

3592
02:27:28,560 --> 02:27:32,040
Speaker 2: card Philip Ergovic fighting Daniel Dubot they think for the

3593
02:27:32,120 --> 02:27:35,440
Speaker 2: IBF title, but it's not sure because now Al Alexander

3594
02:27:35,520 --> 02:27:37,879
Speaker 2: Usik has filed an appeal to the IBF, so they

3595
02:27:37,959 --> 02:27:39,920
Speaker 2: might be able to keep that real belt together. And

3596
02:27:39,959 --> 02:27:41,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you ahead of time spoiler alert,

3597
02:27:41,800 --> 02:27:44,760
Speaker 2: they will because it makes financial sense to everyone to

3598
02:27:44,920 --> 02:27:47,760
Speaker 2: keep that an undisputed and mostly to the sanctioning body.

3599
02:27:47,800 --> 02:27:50,440
Speaker 2: They'll make more money if Usak's defending it. Either way, Luke,

3600
02:27:50,480 --> 02:27:54,120
Speaker 2: if we've got the fallout of this Ergovic versus Dubois fight,

3601
02:27:54,800 --> 02:27:56,320
Speaker 2: the winner of that and the winner of this fight

3602
02:27:56,440 --> 02:27:58,240
Speaker 2: is going to be in play for Anthony Joshua potentially,

3603
02:27:58,280 --> 02:28:01,040
Speaker 2: and that's big business to come. So Wilder said the

3604
02:28:01,400 --> 02:28:03,800
Speaker 2: loss was what he needed and embarrassed him against Parker

3605
02:28:03,879 --> 02:28:05,520
Speaker 2: so much that he went back and fell in love

3606
02:28:05,560 --> 02:28:08,760
Speaker 2: with working Hard again. He is a slight underdog. Wild

3607
02:28:08,760 --> 02:28:11,119
Speaker 2: There is about minus one or plus one forty less

3608
02:28:11,120 --> 02:28:14,080
Speaker 2: than my check. Jang is a favorite, just slight in

3609
02:28:14,120 --> 02:28:17,600
Speaker 2: the other way. I'm feeling I'm feeling. I'm leaning Wilder here,

3610
02:28:17,800 --> 02:28:20,920
Speaker 2: But either man could legitimately fall apart at any point,

3611
02:28:21,200 --> 02:28:23,920
Speaker 2: or either man could land that one big shot and

3612
02:28:24,000 --> 02:28:25,440
Speaker 2: knock the other one out. This is going to be great.

3613
02:28:25,440 --> 02:28:29,080
Speaker 1: I would say Jang has more tools, better boxer for sure. Yeah,

3614
02:28:29,520 --> 02:28:31,160
Speaker 1: I don't think he has a bad chin, but it

3615
02:28:31,360 --> 02:28:34,640
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. If Deonte really is something like what he

3616
02:28:34,760 --> 02:28:36,920
Speaker 1: used to be, he can beat Jang with a big shot.

3617
02:28:37,440 --> 02:28:39,160
Speaker 1: So I expect Wilder to lose a bunch of rounds.

3618
02:28:39,200 --> 02:28:41,640
Speaker 1: The question is can he rescue himself along the way

3619
02:28:42,120 --> 02:28:45,000
Speaker 1: like he last fight. Notwithstanding and you know the Fury

3620
02:28:45,040 --> 02:28:46,760
Speaker 1: fights or whatever, but in many of his fights he

3621
02:28:47,280 --> 02:28:48,520
Speaker 1: just comes out and rescues himself.

3622
02:28:48,879 --> 02:28:51,640
Speaker 2: Jang is hilarious, but he's been his worst advocate. Do

3623
02:28:51,640 --> 02:28:53,600
Speaker 2: you remember when he knocked down Jerry Forest three times

3624
02:28:53,640 --> 02:28:55,560
Speaker 2: in the first round in their fight about five years

3625
02:28:55,560 --> 02:28:59,120
Speaker 2: ago and then struggled to settle for a draw and

3626
02:28:59,280 --> 02:29:01,880
Speaker 2: was so exhausted afterwards that he had like organ failure.

3627
02:29:01,879 --> 02:29:04,160
Speaker 2: And it found he found out that he told that

3628
02:29:04,240 --> 02:29:06,480
Speaker 2: he drinks zero water during training camp. Didn't you know?

3629
02:29:06,680 --> 02:29:08,360
Speaker 2: He looked like he didn't know he was supposed to.

3630
02:29:08,560 --> 02:29:10,480
Speaker 2: So he's repaired it to a degree, but he still

3631
02:29:10,520 --> 02:29:12,440
Speaker 2: has these lapses and fights where he just does nothing.

3632
02:29:13,000 --> 02:29:15,280
Speaker 2: It's gonna be weird. But there's so much at stake

3633
02:29:15,320 --> 02:29:17,920
Speaker 2: and so much at play. And I mentioned the banging.

3634
02:29:18,600 --> 02:29:20,640
Speaker 2: We've got another one of these really funny videos that

3635
02:29:20,720 --> 02:29:25,160
Speaker 2: Queensberry put together. Here's Jeelle Jang promising Deontay Wilder what

3636
02:29:25,200 --> 02:29:26,200
Speaker 2: he's going to do on Saturday.

3637
02:29:26,760 --> 02:29:41,360
Speaker 1: Heteng your Brown's farmer. I'm big a ban I'm by your.

3638
02:29:38,640 --> 02:29:40,680
Speaker 2: I mean, look, there's like eight of those videos they

3639
02:29:40,720 --> 02:29:43,320
Speaker 2: pull out. They're all basically they say like hey Eddie Hern,

3640
02:29:43,920 --> 02:29:44,720
Speaker 2: I bang you too.

3641
02:29:44,920 --> 02:29:46,520
Speaker 1: You know, It's like, hey, I'm gonna bang you.

3642
02:29:46,680 --> 02:29:48,360
Speaker 3: This is the best bit ever.

3643
02:29:49,600 --> 02:29:50,920
Speaker 2: So it is such a good bit.

3644
02:29:51,640 --> 02:29:52,440
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna bang you.

3645
02:29:52,560 --> 02:29:55,279
Speaker 2: The fight's gonna be fun. Luke a couple other prospects

3646
02:29:55,360 --> 02:29:59,640
Speaker 2: worth watching. Dude, Saudi Rabi is on fire by proxy.

3647
02:29:59,720 --> 02:30:01,280
Speaker 2: Bach thing is I could not be more of you.

3648
02:30:02,120 --> 02:30:05,520
Speaker 2: You you you know we could be about a six pm.

3649
02:30:05,600 --> 02:30:09,039
Speaker 2: We're looking maybe I'm on the East coast, the main event.

3650
02:30:09,560 --> 02:30:12,520
Speaker 1: Perhaps the biggest event of all tomorrow. You are aware

3651
02:30:12,560 --> 02:30:13,400
Speaker 1: of what it is, right.

3652
02:30:13,520 --> 02:30:16,879
Speaker 2: Not UFC three h two, Nooky's birthday, No what are

3653
02:30:16,920 --> 02:30:17,400
Speaker 2: we talking about?

3654
02:30:18,080 --> 02:30:22,840
Speaker 1: Champions League final, Real Madrid or Ishia Dortmun if they win,

3655
02:30:22,920 --> 02:30:25,080
Speaker 1: will have their fifteenth title, which would be you know,

3656
02:30:25,440 --> 02:30:27,039
Speaker 1: far and away. They've already got the record. That would

3657
02:30:27,040 --> 02:30:30,160
Speaker 1: just make the record even harder to reach. Yeah, Kings

3658
02:30:30,160 --> 02:30:30,520
Speaker 1: of Europe.

3659
02:30:30,680 --> 02:30:32,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been a fan of them for a hot minute,

3660
02:30:33,560 --> 02:30:36,200
Speaker 2: a hot second, Kings of Okay, I'll say it before it,

3661
02:30:36,280 --> 02:30:38,880
Speaker 2: I'll say it again. Put the camera, don't put the can,

3662
02:30:38,959 --> 02:30:40,560
Speaker 2: don't do not put the game on me, because I

3663
02:30:40,560 --> 02:30:42,120
Speaker 2: want to see that. I want people to watch them.

3664
02:30:42,160 --> 02:30:45,240
Speaker 2: Say it to you, just because you bandwagon the most

3665
02:30:45,280 --> 02:30:48,879
Speaker 2: famous popular success keep in the world. You can't dunk

3666
02:30:48,959 --> 02:30:52,200
Speaker 2: on people, especially people that don't give a flashing damn

3667
02:30:52,240 --> 02:30:56,240
Speaker 2: about the game or the teams. There's it's not a dunk.

3668
02:30:57,000 --> 02:30:57,520
Speaker 2: There's nothing.

3669
02:30:57,600 --> 02:30:59,760
Speaker 1: There's like, look at how agitated you are. Stay mad.

3670
02:31:00,000 --> 02:31:02,080
Speaker 2: I'm getting agitated, but it doesn't make you look good

3671
02:31:02,080 --> 02:31:03,199
Speaker 2: that I'm getting I don't.

3672
02:31:02,959 --> 02:31:04,640
Speaker 1: Care how I look to you about it. It's the

3673
02:31:04,720 --> 02:31:06,080
Speaker 1: joy that I bring. Stay mad about it.

3674
02:31:06,240 --> 02:31:07,720
Speaker 2: Well, let's let's pull your audience.

3675
02:31:08,360 --> 02:31:10,360
Speaker 1: Fine, I do I'm doing I'm doing a fucking watch

3676
02:31:10,400 --> 02:31:12,680
Speaker 1: along on my channel for it tomorrow. Yeah, join me

3677
02:31:12,760 --> 02:31:14,360
Speaker 1: three pm. It's the game.

3678
02:31:14,520 --> 02:31:16,560
Speaker 2: Will you have the same lack drug testing rules as

3679
02:31:16,760 --> 02:31:19,240
Speaker 2: Craig Craig Jones Invitational during that I might drop in,

3680
02:31:19,480 --> 02:31:19,840
Speaker 2: I don't know.

3681
02:31:20,400 --> 02:31:22,760
Speaker 1: It might have Chief Keith rules zoom.

3682
02:31:24,360 --> 02:31:26,360
Speaker 2: You are doing a I mean, I don't I don't

3683
02:31:26,440 --> 02:31:29,280
Speaker 2: disrespect despite the jokes we make that the business you've

3684
02:31:29,280 --> 02:31:31,520
Speaker 2: built and if you can make this into something great,

3685
02:31:31,560 --> 02:31:33,760
Speaker 2: if the audience will tune in even to be clear,

3686
02:31:33,879 --> 02:31:36,320
Speaker 2: but you are doing a soccer live stream, yeah, I.

3687
02:31:36,280 --> 02:31:37,920
Speaker 1: Don't know if they will tune in a bit of

3688
02:31:37,959 --> 02:31:38,560
Speaker 1: an experiment?

3689
02:31:38,840 --> 02:31:39,160
Speaker 4: Is this like?

3690
02:31:39,520 --> 02:31:41,640
Speaker 2: How do you how would you describe what this championship is?

3691
02:31:41,840 --> 02:31:43,640
Speaker 1: It's the biggest, So the World Cup would be the

3692
02:31:43,640 --> 02:31:46,360
Speaker 1: biggest one for all the nations four years. Yeah, but no,

3693
02:31:46,440 --> 02:31:49,160
Speaker 1: it's Argentina versus whoever. It's a nation teams. These are

3694
02:31:49,240 --> 02:31:52,760
Speaker 1: professional teams, club teams from all different leagues, all of Europe,

3695
02:31:53,120 --> 02:31:54,920
Speaker 1: all of you. But I mean, dude, far, far and

3696
02:31:55,000 --> 02:31:57,080
Speaker 1: away the best teams in the world, like not even close,

3697
02:31:57,560 --> 02:32:00,600
Speaker 1: like a Jacks. Yeah, it'd be almost like a UFC

3698
02:32:00,760 --> 02:32:03,400
Speaker 1: All Star Division, if the such a thing. I axis

3699
02:32:03,440 --> 02:32:07,200
Speaker 1: from its Yeah, No, they're they're not. They're not good

3700
02:32:07,280 --> 02:32:09,480
Speaker 1: enough anymore. I ad all right.

3701
02:32:09,520 --> 02:32:12,960
Speaker 2: Final question, taking the family to London late summer.

3702
02:32:13,040 --> 02:32:13,560
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

3703
02:32:13,959 --> 02:32:18,600
Speaker 2: It's gonna be opening day for the Premiere the Premier League,

3704
02:32:18,640 --> 02:32:24,320
Speaker 2: the Premier League. Which tickets, which game? Which which environment

3705
02:32:24,360 --> 02:32:26,439
Speaker 2: should I seek out? When we're talking London.

3706
02:32:26,360 --> 02:32:28,280
Speaker 1: I would go, I mean, I don't know how much

3707
02:32:28,879 --> 02:32:32,480
Speaker 1: Premier League tickets are, but I know London is fucking expensive. Yes,

3708
02:32:33,080 --> 02:32:36,959
Speaker 1: I would say Arsenal, the et hod or the Emirates.

3709
02:32:37,560 --> 02:32:40,240
Speaker 2: I'm not far from Chelsea, so that'd be a tough ticket. Chelsea.

3710
02:32:40,240 --> 02:32:43,200
Speaker 1: You think Stanford Bridge, I don't know. I don't know.

3711
02:32:43,240 --> 02:32:45,920
Speaker 1: I've never been to one of those games. I think

3712
02:32:45,959 --> 02:32:47,920
Speaker 1: Tottenham might be more affordable, because that's a that's a

3713
02:32:47,959 --> 02:32:48,440
Speaker 1: scrub ass.

3714
02:32:48,640 --> 02:32:52,720
Speaker 2: I'll go to Forest Park with are'all. Luke Queen's Park,

3715
02:32:52,959 --> 02:32:54,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what he's speaking about,

3716
02:32:54,840 --> 02:32:56,720
Speaker 2: talking about forests all the time. I don't even get it.

3717
02:32:57,000 --> 02:32:59,879
Speaker 1: Therefferent Nottingham.

3718
02:33:00,400 --> 02:33:02,680
Speaker 2: That's a play that could be cool, I think. But Luke,

3719
02:33:03,640 --> 02:33:06,200
Speaker 2: good luck to your team. Rayal, Okay, this means a

3720
02:33:06,240 --> 02:33:07,520
Speaker 2: lot to you. I want to see you happy.

3721
02:33:07,600 --> 02:33:09,600
Speaker 1: And I like how mad it makes people so mad,

3722
02:33:09,720 --> 02:33:12,240
Speaker 1: and I just I love it. I love how much

3723
02:33:12,280 --> 02:33:15,440
Speaker 1: it irritates you. It doesn't need to you let it.

3724
02:33:15,840 --> 02:33:18,760
Speaker 2: Because I dealt with I'm a Mets fan growing up

3725
02:33:19,080 --> 02:33:22,920
Speaker 2: in the at the intersection between Yankees and Red Sox fandoms,

3726
02:33:23,040 --> 02:33:25,120
Speaker 2: so you're just kind of forgotten. Despite the Mets having

3727
02:33:25,240 --> 02:33:27,960
Speaker 2: giant success in different windows, it wasn't sustained. So I

3728
02:33:28,120 --> 02:33:30,200
Speaker 2: dealt with the arrogance of this. And if it's like

3729
02:33:30,520 --> 02:33:33,039
Speaker 2: a kid who Yankees, Yeah, but if you grew up

3730
02:33:33,080 --> 02:33:34,840
Speaker 2: my best friends are Yankees fans. If you grew up

3731
02:33:34,840 --> 02:33:36,920
Speaker 2: a Yankees fan and your dad was and you know,

3732
02:33:36,959 --> 02:33:39,119
Speaker 2: I mean are, the biggest hero in my town growing

3733
02:33:39,160 --> 02:33:41,959
Speaker 2: up was Frank Speckshe the former nineteen forty seven Yankees

3734
02:33:42,000 --> 02:33:44,560
Speaker 2: World Series hero. I get all that you're a Day

3735
02:33:44,640 --> 02:33:46,480
Speaker 2: one thing. You jumped on the span wagon on Day one.

3736
02:33:46,640 --> 02:33:48,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, just yesterday, all right, You're not a Day

3737
02:33:48,920 --> 02:33:49,520
Speaker 2: one fan, Luke.

3738
02:33:49,600 --> 02:33:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not from Spain, that's right.

3739
02:33:50,959 --> 02:33:53,280
Speaker 2: So you I don't think you can. There's rules like

3740
02:33:53,320 --> 02:33:55,720
Speaker 2: some people subscribing run. I used to work with Jim

3741
02:33:55,760 --> 02:33:58,320
Speaker 2: Basketball at ESPN, he said. And if adult male wears

3742
02:33:58,680 --> 02:34:00,760
Speaker 2: a jersey to a sporting fan and he's a child.

3743
02:34:00,840 --> 02:34:02,800
Speaker 1: That's because he's an insecure man who doesn't know what

3744
02:34:02,879 --> 02:34:05,480
Speaker 1: the fuck he's talking about. He was a great man,

3745
02:34:05,959 --> 02:34:07,480
Speaker 1: you might be might be great. He's slow insecure.

3746
02:34:08,080 --> 02:34:09,720
Speaker 2: So, like you know, I grew up. If you if

3747
02:34:10,120 --> 02:34:12,240
Speaker 2: like you could get beat up based on what teams

3748
02:34:12,240 --> 02:34:14,360
Speaker 2: you follow, like there were, you're from.

3749
02:34:14,280 --> 02:34:18,920
Speaker 1: A dirt bag place. Yes, that's right. I will say that.

3750
02:34:19,000 --> 02:34:20,520
Speaker 2: I want to be the human form of your law

3751
02:34:20,560 --> 02:34:21,199
Speaker 2: in Oklahoma.

3752
02:34:22,240 --> 02:34:24,760
Speaker 1: You're just gonna slash my tires and mug me. I

3753
02:34:24,840 --> 02:34:27,199
Speaker 1: will say this. I will say this. If you don't

3754
02:34:27,320 --> 02:34:29,840
Speaker 1: cheer for the teams where you live, you're a dirt back.

3755
02:34:30,040 --> 02:34:30,720
Speaker 1: I do believe that.

3756
02:34:30,920 --> 02:34:31,080
Speaker 3: See.

3757
02:34:31,120 --> 02:34:33,600
Speaker 2: I was like the Yukon hater growing up in Yukon Territor.

3758
02:34:33,640 --> 02:34:35,320
Speaker 2: Right now I don't care anymore because I was a

3759
02:34:35,440 --> 02:34:37,440
Speaker 2: Georgetown fan. It was the biggest rivalries mad.

3760
02:34:37,560 --> 02:34:39,760
Speaker 1: That's why Georgetown was good. They're ship now, I mean

3761
02:34:39,800 --> 02:34:42,840
Speaker 1: they're terrible. This was was this Iverson or.

3762
02:34:42,920 --> 02:34:43,640
Speaker 2: This was morning?

3763
02:34:44,920 --> 02:34:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

3764
02:34:45,120 --> 02:34:47,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, that was That was the

3765
02:34:47,160 --> 02:34:49,199
Speaker 2: last of the There was the role with Jeff Green

3766
02:34:49,600 --> 02:34:52,920
Speaker 2: with Hibbert, I mean they were but then college basketball died, so.

3767
02:34:53,120 --> 02:34:55,280
Speaker 1: You know, no it did it did? I was I

3768
02:34:55,360 --> 02:34:56,840
Speaker 1: was reading about this. It might make a comeback with

3769
02:34:56,959 --> 02:34:59,880
Speaker 1: n I L that's right, that's there making so much.

3770
02:35:00,160 --> 02:35:02,120
Speaker 1: Some of these guys are making so much money to college.

3771
02:35:02,240 --> 02:35:05,640
Speaker 2: Think of how many players per year never reached their

3772
02:35:05,680 --> 02:35:07,400
Speaker 2: potential because they came out too early and it just

3773
02:35:07,480 --> 02:35:09,000
Speaker 2: didn't work out. Now you get a chance to get

3774
02:35:09,000 --> 02:35:11,280
Speaker 2: more finished products in the NBA. Imagine you can increase

3775
02:35:11,360 --> 02:35:12,000
Speaker 2: the college.

3776
02:35:12,040 --> 02:35:15,599
Speaker 1: Being like the main guy at UNC, the fucking.

3777
02:35:16,120 --> 02:35:18,080
Speaker 2: Like Tyler Hansbro Just dude, slang.

3778
02:35:18,240 --> 02:35:20,160
Speaker 1: Can you imagine what it must be like to walk

3779
02:35:20,160 --> 02:35:22,640
Speaker 1: into a party You're like six foot eight and you're

3780
02:35:22,680 --> 02:35:25,080
Speaker 1: the most famous person on that campus and you're young.

3781
02:35:26,040 --> 02:35:29,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude, it must be unbelievable. I've never

3782
02:35:29,760 --> 02:35:32,240
Speaker 1: You've never walked into a room and been that cool

3783
02:35:32,320 --> 02:35:33,520
Speaker 1: in that room. I've never done that.

3784
02:35:33,720 --> 02:35:35,640
Speaker 2: Our sound guy Ken just stood up. I think he's

3785
02:35:35,680 --> 02:35:37,119
Speaker 2: thinking about the Poontin possibility.

3786
02:35:37,200 --> 02:35:39,240
Speaker 1: Right, we should partly get going, All right, I'm sorry, Hey,

3787
02:35:39,360 --> 02:35:42,440
Speaker 1: it's remind everyone. Let's remind everyone. Thank you to Craig Jones.

3788
02:35:42,760 --> 02:35:45,040
Speaker 1: Be on the lookout for Craig Jones Invitational stuff for

3789
02:35:45,240 --> 02:35:49,320
Speaker 1: tickets and additional announcements related to matchups and participants. Will

3790
02:35:49,320 --> 02:35:51,920
Speaker 1: see how that goes. You can follow us on social

3791
02:35:52,360 --> 02:35:54,680
Speaker 1: all of those spots right there, Morning Combat basically everywhere.

3792
02:35:54,680 --> 02:35:56,640
Speaker 1: I don't even know people are manning these accounts anymore.

3793
02:35:57,200 --> 02:36:00,920
Speaker 2: We're in transition. We're transitioning, okay, but respect us.

3794
02:36:00,920 --> 02:36:04,199
Speaker 1: During this we still upload. We still upload on Instagram

3795
02:36:04,280 --> 02:36:05,720
Speaker 1: and Twitter. I don't know about it. We've got it.

3796
02:36:05,800 --> 02:36:07,400
Speaker 2: We've got a big June plan. We're gonna be hitting

3797
02:36:07,400 --> 02:36:10,000
Speaker 2: theroad a bit plan so we do a big details

3798
02:36:10,080 --> 02:36:13,680
Speaker 2: to come. But the expansion you want is in the works.

3799
02:36:13,720 --> 02:36:17,279
Speaker 1: Guys, Monday, we'll be back Monday, We're back live eleven

3800
02:36:17,280 --> 02:36:19,240
Speaker 1: am in the East. Will be right back here to

3801
02:36:19,320 --> 02:36:20,920
Speaker 1: get you ready. Until then, you can go to Morning

3802
02:36:20,959 --> 02:36:22,920
Speaker 1: Combat dot store. You can use the promo code live

3803
02:36:23,040 --> 02:36:24,400
Speaker 1: ten and get some gear.

3804
02:36:24,560 --> 02:36:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, average Joe Art probably created. He's a great guy too,

3805
02:36:27,280 --> 02:36:28,040
Speaker 2: so shout out to him.

3806
02:36:28,120 --> 02:36:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's it. Any final thought. I want to

3807
02:36:30,000 --> 02:36:32,520
Speaker 1: say anything to the pakeets or what's up to the piquettes.

3808
02:36:32,560 --> 02:36:34,760
Speaker 1: What's up to Danger Mouse? By the way, is it

3809
02:36:34,800 --> 02:36:36,039
Speaker 1: active participant on my chest?

3810
02:36:36,120 --> 02:36:36,240
Speaker 4: Oh?

3811
02:36:36,280 --> 02:36:37,960
Speaker 2: I like Danger Mouse? He turned on us when we

3812
02:36:39,200 --> 02:36:39,640
Speaker 2: turned on you?

3813
02:36:39,800 --> 02:36:40,400
Speaker 1: Perhaps not me?

3814
02:36:40,520 --> 02:36:40,840
Speaker 4: All right?

3815
02:36:41,000 --> 02:36:43,199
Speaker 1: Danger Mouse made the MK hub shirt.

3816
02:36:44,240 --> 02:36:46,160
Speaker 2: Dinger Mouse did make the mk hub shirt long. Oh

3817
02:36:46,160 --> 02:36:48,560
Speaker 2: that's right, right, yes, yes, that's a gross, filthy shirt

3818
02:36:48,600 --> 02:36:49,440
Speaker 2: that is our best seller.

3819
02:36:49,480 --> 02:36:49,800
Speaker 1: So that's it.

3820
02:36:49,840 --> 02:36:51,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to do the show any longer, so

3821
02:36:51,080 --> 02:36:52,039
Speaker 2: I'm going to go all right, all.

3822
02:36:52,000 --> 02:36:52,560
Speaker 1: Right, we're out of here.

3823
02:36:53,120 --> 02:36:54,880
Speaker 2: Train to catch it, Ryan Campbell.

3824
02:36:55,000 --> 02:36:57,000
Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas. Thanks everyone who watched. Thanks again to

3825
02:36:57,040 --> 02:36:59,840
Speaker 1: Craig Jones for stopping by. Until then, all your gains

3826
02:37:00,320 --> 02:37:02,400
Speaker 1: be motherfucking loyal to the IDEAIA