WEBVTT - Ep21 - Ruth Negga / "Loving" 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:22.720 Welcome to Playback, a Variety podcast. I'm your host, Variety 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:26.120 Awards Editor Chris Tapley. On today's show, the Oscar nominations 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:28.080 are in. What were the surprises and what can we 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:31.200 expect out of the eighty nine Annual Academy Awards. A 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:32.680 little bit later, I'll be talking to one of this 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:50.280 year's Oscar nominees, loving star Ruth Nigga. So stick around. Okay, 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:52.480 here we are and we have Oscar nominations to talk about. 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:54.680 Hello morning, and thank you for waiting for the day 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:58.280 after Oscar nominations. Because I was up to three a m. Yesterday, 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:01.160 I took a nap. Eventually, I hate you. I couldn't help. 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:05.520 I mean a certain point. Look, if you do anything else, 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:07.479 you will collapse right now. I had a very long 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:09.960 day because after it was the day of the Oscar dominations, 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:11.559 and then I had two Q and a S with 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:14.759 with two amazing redheads um first Amy Adams and Emma Stone. 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:18.200 So it ended up being being a pretty long day. 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:21.120 Did you eat a TV right in the morning? I did, yes, 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:24.920 uh no, And everybody patted me on the back for 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:28.600 managing to make it through this segment without getting sick. Well, 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:33.800 you know, not too many shockers. I guess beyond I 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.120 guess you know you just mentioned Amy Adams, so just 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:39.000 start there. That was the biggest surprise for everyone. Pretty surprising. 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:41.559 I mean you always wondered. Yeah, you said all along 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:44.000 you weren't sure she got in, and I wasn't sure either, 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:45.480 just because I don't know if sci fi gets the 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.600 respect it deserves. But then with the Golden Globe nomination 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:51.480 and the SAG nomination and the Critics Choice nomination, like, 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:54.440 she seemed very secure. And I hate to say that, 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:58.920 like one person pushed another person out, but um, obviously 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:00.960 you know there were some people who were considered on 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:04.760 the bubble who made it in and and Amy did not. Yeah, 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:07.320 it's a low key performance too, It's not like it's 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:13.000 this big Academy quote unquote performance in that way. So presumably, 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:14.880 I mean, you never know who's fourth, who's fifth. A 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.600 lot of people think it's Meryl Streep, like she somehow 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:20.080 on the afterburners. I mean, it could be Ruth, though 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:22.880 Ruth Negga didn't have any support, and you'll make itself 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:25.640 crazy thinking about it. I just I did not have 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:27.800 Meryl on my list for the longest time until after 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:29.840 her Golden Globe speech. I was like, Okay, she kind 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.440 of sealed it with that. But then it's disappointing because 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.000 the other omission that that was very sad for me 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:37.440 was Hugh Grant was not nominated from the same movie. 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:40.160 What do you think happened there? I think we take 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.320 him for granted to some extent, or maybe you know, 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.080 the movie didn't get I think only Meryl was nominated 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:49.080 from the movie. Um. Act, yeah, yeah, costumes were nominateds 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.160 were nominated. Okay. I mean it's possible the movie just 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:53.839 didn't connect with Oscar voters and Meryl got in because 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.680 she's Meryl. Um. I think it's also possible he might 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:58.560 have split his votes a bit. Some people might have 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.680 thought he was a lead. Yeah you know, um he 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:03.920 was nominated for lead at the Golden Globes. Maybe maybe 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:07.440 that wasn't a smart move on the studio's part to 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:09.519 position him that way there. Who knows. Something that was 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:12.800 interesting to me was, you know, ever since Nocturnal Animals 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:15.799 premiered at the on the festival circuit, people were talking 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.560 about Michael Shannon and then that sort of died down 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:20.760 and it became Aaron Taylor Johnson with the Globe in 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:24.960 bathtonom So seeing Michael Shannon's name was a huge He's 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:29.160 always creedy, Yeah that guy. Yeah, No, me too. That's 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:32.760 what's interesting, Actually this quote surprises were things that we 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:35.280 all thought was gonna happen early on that we stopped 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:37.640 thinking was gonna happen. Mike Shannon Twentieth Century Women for 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:41.720 Screenplay is an example too. I um, you know, regarding 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:44.200 Amy Adams, look, she's in good company and at Benning 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:47.400 wasn't nominated TOI p Henson wasn't nominated, was so holding 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:50.800 out hope that Taragi would get in. Uh, you know, 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:52.360 it was just it's just a testament to what a 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:54.920 great year was for actresses. But but it was pretty 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:58.160 shocking that also, you know, everyone loves Amy Adams. I 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:01.440 just she's had a lot of work. I mean, she 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:04.680 carried the load. You know, Dennis was off working on 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:08.600 Blay Runner. Uh, you know, I don't know, I didn't 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:11.640 really see Jeremy Renner around on this movie. I don't 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:13.480 know if she was working. They obviously loved really, i mean, 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:16.440 eight nominations, so to not nominate the person who is 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:19.000 sort of the face of the movie you know, holding 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:23.560 it together. You made your case for that. I certainly 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:25.600 did well. You said you did a Q and A 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:29.680 with her. Yeah, she was hilarious. I mean she you know, 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:32.680 I can't speak for her, but I got the impression that, 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:36.240 like I think Dennis Miller, before he went crazy years ago, 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.600 said something to the effect of, if the worst thing 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:41.080 that happens in your life is your show gets canceled, 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:43.960 you led a fucking charmed life. So I think she 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.840 has like really good perspective about it. Um, all I 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:48.240 can say is that she was in a great mood 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.599 last night. She was really funny. She is so happy 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:57.120 for Denny and for the movie, and um, you know, 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:59.320 she was just she's just great with the audience and 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:02.479 and seemed in really good spirits. Well here's the thing, Uh, 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:05.000 next time she's in the running, she probably went well, 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:07.000 you know, in a way, it might be the best 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:09.320 thing that could have happened, because she probably wasn't gonna win, 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.640 although for a while I was thinking she could. But um, 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:16.680 so now you know, it sets her up to be like, yeah, 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:20.880 she's she's building a great narrative, so you know, whatever's next. Yeah, 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:25.760 what else? Uh, Captain Fantastic didn't pan out. I mean 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:27.960 I think I had I had hopes that I knew 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:32.280 were a little you know, on on the precipice, and 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.000 none of them panned out. No Kevin Costner or no Taragi, 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.520 no Captain Fantastic. Although Vigo got in, which I'm thrilled about. 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:42.440 That lineup seemed locked in place year it was kind 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.680 of interesting. Um oh, I was still, you know, pulling 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:48.560 for Tom Hanks, but again, nobody feels sorry for Tom Hanks, 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:52.960 let alone Tom Hanks. America's dead. Yeah, let's see, let's 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:58.960 look at the Where are the freaking nominations? Do you uh? 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:01.040 Do you have any um p G A We have 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:04.080 p G A n SAG this weekend. Gosh, Well, the 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:07.480 PGA nominees are the Best Picture nominees plus Deadpool. Yes, 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.360 Deadpool did not make it, in which we both sort 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:13.120 of expected. Yeah. I think some people got their hopes 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:16.479 up on that, which is I think they did. Yeah, 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:18.560 but I mean, look, they weren't getting their hopes up 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:20.960 without you know, any evidence to support them. I mean, 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:24.200 a pre a WT nomination is pretty great. The sneeze at. Yeah, 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:26.919 here's the nominations. Mel Gibson got in yes End of 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.400 the Day, which was a little surprising to me, just because, 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:31.160 as I've said before, I thought he had a better 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:35.040 shot with the more vast d g A, where Garth 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:39.239 Davis was nominated for Lions. Like I would have thought 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.080 me too, That's exactly what I thought, Like Mel would 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:44.719 have been in for d g A and Garth would 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:48.520 have slipped in for Oscars. Lobster got that screenplay nomination. 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:54.960 About that U thirteen Hours got that sound nomination. Yeah, 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:58.760 Suicide Squad can call itself an Oscar nominee, and Passengers, 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.800 I mean, that's a look. I think Passengers is a 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:06.480 much better film than Suicide Squad, but I don't know 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:10.120 that's that's like giving a cannibal a knife and fork. 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.800 Passengers got two nominations. Thomas Newman got in, which I 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.400 was wondering what was going to happen there because that 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.520 branch the composers are so insular and they always nominate 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.520 their own, and this year there was like John Williams, 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:28.000 James Newton Howard had the Fantastic Beasts score, Thomas Newman 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.400 had Passengers, And you know, these are kind of lackluster 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.200 compared to what those guys usually put out, and meanwhile 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:35.120 there was all this new blood and some of it 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:38.560 got in, like Michael Levy for Jackets got in and 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:41.720 uh we all figured the lion uh composers would get 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:44.800 in Nicholas Burttel for Moonlight. So all the it's it's 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:47.320 it's uh, it's mostly new blood and then Thomas Newman 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:49.920 so just reminds you that they do take care of 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.920 their own. Still. I just rewatched Moonlight over the weekend 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.240 for the first time in months and was really struck 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:59.239 by how good the score is. Uh, that string stuff 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.000 is amazing when he out there in the water with 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:06.000 by the way, if I can plug, I did a 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:09.600 sag after a career conversation with Mirschel that's now online, 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:13.480 and it is like just listening to that man speak, 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:16.800 he's a charm. Yeah, it's hard not to like tear 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:20.560 up half the time. I was very proud of myself, 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:23.240 I must say, not to be a douche. The visual 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:26.440 effects a nailed and and and only because I went 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:29.760 to that bake off. Really, that really homework pays off. 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:32.760 It gives you a perspective that you wouldn't have otherwise, because, 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.240 as I've said before, that deep water Horizon Real was amazing. 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:38.199 The Kubo guys really made a passionate plea and they 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:44.480 both got in. Yeah. Over Arrival, I was kind although there, 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:47.439 but I guess Arrival wasn't as you know, flashy as 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.040 when you get down to it, it it really is. It's 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.800 very low key effects humanity. Yeah, but then so was 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:57.440 ex mckinna and not One, which was not something that 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:00.480 pleased that branch last year. Yeah, have we not talked 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:04.160 about that? There's an they Yeah, I mean this year 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:06.600 at the bake off, the guy made a little speech like, 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.280 remember your voting for the best visual effects, not the 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:11.440 best movie with visual effects, And some people took that 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:15.240 as like anti Arrival, but it had something to do 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.160 with the x macin of it all last year, beating 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:21.120 Mad Max and Martian and Star Wars effect these big 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:24.040 like but you know, it's a political branches, a political industry. 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:26.520 So all these major effects houses working on these movies 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:28.839 and then they lose TWEX Machina, which my answer is 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:30.760 if you don't like it, don't nominate x macinn in 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:35.440 the first place. Also, X main I had amazing great effects, Yeah, 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:42.000 especially considering their budget. So okay, let's take. We asked 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:45.240 for some questions this week, Yes, let's pull them up. 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:47.480 You know, I just had a thought, what have the 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:51.840 Amy Adams win SAG. I don't think it's gonna happen. 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:57.079 But you think you think Emma begins her march at say, 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:00.120 but it would not be surprised, Natalie Portman one, I 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:04.000 would actors love that movie? I love it. I'd be surprised. 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:07.640 You know, do you think Casey is a lock for 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:11.960 actor because if she doesn't win SAG, Ryan's not winning 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.720 SAG and it's not nominated for ensemble, so it's lain 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:16.640 walking out of SAG without an an award. You don't 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:19.520 think Ryan's winning? Say, I don't know. I really am 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:21.680 pretty sure that's going to cast. I mean, I'm very 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:25.040 excited for this weekend because we will have some answers. 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:31.800 You know, let's give these people some answers. Didn't okay, 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:35.920 Dennis kN Okay, Sorry dude. Uh. I think La La 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.760 Land is winning nine Oscars, but I'm not so sure 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:43.520 about screenplay and sound editing thoughts. I think Land is 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:47.080 probably winning screenplay. I don't understand why people are feel 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:51.040 like that's an issue. But against that winning screenplay, I 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:52.839 thought that was gonna win screenplay back when I thought 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:54.880 that was the only award it was gonna win. Like 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:58.800 it's it's a great screenplay. It's kind of the thrust 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:00.560 of the movie is what he's put on the page 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:04.000 in many ways that musicals don't have screenplays or something, 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:08.520 which is ridiculous. There's more dialogue than music in that movie. Absolutely, 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.040 it's a very witty screenplay and just exchanges and everything. 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:13.640 So I think he's good. Maybe it loses to Manchester, 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:15.760 but I don't think, yeah, that's the only thing it 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:17.400 can lose to. I think, yeah, I think you're right. 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:19.439 I don't think sound editing is going to happen. But 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.040 I didn't think the nomination was gonna happen. I was 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:23.160 a little dumbfounded by that. Who do you think it 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:27.679 could lose to Hacksaw? Okay, so it's like either Bullets 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.319 or Broadway basically, I mean I think that Oh wait, 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:33.880 I got a headline, hold on down. It's like an 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:39.400 old school variety headline coming in over the transom. I 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:43.080 think I think law law is gonna win. Sound mixing 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.520 musicals win sound mixing, Yeah, but sound editing if it 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.360 win's sound editing watch out. Yeah, I know, watch out 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:51.280 because I already think it's going to tie the record 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:56.400 for wins been Her and Titanic, and uh so you 0:11:56.440 --> 0:12:00.920 have it winning everything everything except iund editing one of 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:03.160 the songs Ryan Gosling and one of the songs, and 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:07.319 Gosling is not Yeah, you know, he's definitely a creeper there. 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:12.640 Uh this says can anything stop La La Land? Clearly not. Um, 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.320 you know, fourteen nominations. We we kind of buried that. 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:17.600 But that's the lead of the day, was tying a 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.960 record that all about even Titanic had, and it probably 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:22.840 would have broken the record if they hadn't changed the 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:25.160 rooms about the songs. Yeah, it could have got three 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:28.839 songs back in the day, absolutely, and uh if it 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:32.800 you know, if there were some like makeup wizardry that 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:34.400 they had put into the movie or some a visual 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:38.320 effect situation, like yeah, it was. It's amazing how much 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.640 this movie took this town by storm. And uh no, 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:45.280 nothing's gonna stop it unless there's some closet and damien 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:49.000 skeleton and Damien's closet somebody wants to dig out. But 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:54.040 I think that like that. Yeah, but the way I 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:56.000 did a Q and A with the producers of La 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.360 La Land on Sunday, and I don't know why, I 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:01.400 just loved the story. But Mark Platt was talking about, um, 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:03.600 you know in the opening scene it's all one take, 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:07.600 or it's got to look like one take. Um, you know. 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:09.520 It just shows you how hands on the producers are, 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.280 like Mark Platt, producer of Wicked, producer of movies like 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:15.360 Bridge of Spies. Apparently they were having trouble getting the 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.520 door in the back of the truck tot up to reveal, 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:21.160 you know, the drummers. So Mark Platt was back there 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:25.080 pulling you forget that door to open. I love that. 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.960 That was one of the three cuts I think in 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:31.760 that sequence was when the door opens. Um that that 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:35.040 question was from no offense from Tom That's funny. I 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:39.240 just got that. Does Arrival have a realistic shot to 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.440 win any Oscars? I'm a big fan, but afraid it 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:44.480 will go. I think I think it might, really I 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:46.640 think it'll get something below the line. But you know 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:48.640 where I think it's best shot might be. And this 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:52.040 might be crazy, is adapted screenplay. It would have to be, 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.840 you might, it would have to be happening. But yeah, 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:56.800 I mean I could see that, or I could I 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:00.319 could see film editing or sound editing happening the way 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:03.120 I just realized Manchester wasn't nominated for film editing. Yeah, 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:07.080 I called that. I've heard editors kind of bemoan the 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.440 way they play with time in that movie. A lot 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:12.160 of them think they discovered it after the fact, like 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.080 it was a manifested thing, but it was in the 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:17.679 shooting script, the way he wrote the flashbacks in so 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.160 solid editing, I thought, but it was left on the sidelines. 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:23.040 But yeah, I think Arrival could win editing because of 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.640 its structure. I think it could win, which is funny. 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:27.720 It's kind of a similar structure to Manchester. So why 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:31.560 are they bitching about Manchester? Yeah, I don't know. I 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:35.360 think it adapted is you know, the darkest of forces, 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.880 but you know, worth mentioning because of what kind of 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.600 a story it is. And again sound editing, like if 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.200 they obviously they like a Rival more than they like Hacksaw. 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:45.400 I'm picking hacks all right now, just because it's a 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:49.080 war movie. But you know, I could see them thrown 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.360 at a bone there. But at the moment, yeah, I 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:57.440 think it walks away empty handed. Kyle says, is there 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.600 anyone who could surprise with a win. I'm keeping an 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.240 eye on Shannon and the Lobster. Well, I wouldn't keep 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:06.360 my eye on the Lobster. I mean, I love the Lobster, 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:09.120 but that's not something that I actually in original screenplay. 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:11.720 I think, yeah, it's too tough. But somebody said yesterday, 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:15.400 I think it was Kyle by Channon. Uh said, um that, like, 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:17.360 as much as he loves Merschel, Ali kind of wants 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:20.800 Michael Shannon to win just to hear the speech. Ye oh, 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.080 yeah he would. I'm sure you'd have something to say 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:28.080 about exactly h surprises. Let's see. I am, like I said, 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.880 I am not. I think there's gonna be some surprise 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:34.000 in one of the acting categories. I just don't know 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:36.920 what it is. I think I could see Casey fallen off. 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:40.320 That's my concern, like shocking, like, but I don't know 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:44.880 that it is shocking because um Denzel is so powerful 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:46.640 in the movie and so highly regarded, and I mean 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:48.920 he's got some stiff competition. It's a testament to how 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:51.080 good gays he is. That he's you know, he's been 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:55.480 so dominant. Yeah, yeah, so, and I we we talk 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:57.800 a lot about like, don't underestimate Ryan Gosling, don't I 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:02.920 start underwardsmate, bil Morton's in Viola is good to go. 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:06.200 I mean, if Viola doesn't win, it would be the 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.840 biggest shock. Some people think it's about who paris in 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:10.520 the running here. I just don't know a lot of 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:12.840 people do. I don't think so either. But again, a 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.000 lot of people to hate that movie. I was actually 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:17.720 surprised you got in. Ultimately, I was surprised she got 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:22.400 into Grainy Adams let's see, and you know other stuff 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:24.880 that I would say as surprises are the tech categories 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:26.920 that you know Jane would be bored. I was just 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.240 gonna say, wake me up, what you're done. I love 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:31.440 that we've established this narrative, but I just I don't 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:35.960 care about anything but the star Matthis wants to know. 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:37.880 Is there any chance Audition in City of Stars can 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:42.240 split in song? Our industry voters, industry talking about a 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.240 like allegations, So two firm Yeah, those are two different 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:49.360 questions regarding the songs. Yeah. Actually, I mean personally, I 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:51.360 think Audition is the better song because of how it's 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:55.080 used too, But I think the anthem it's the it's 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:58.840 the best song in the movie is Another Day of Sun, 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.480 which was it shortlisted or not? Yeah? That that and 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:03.840 it just goes on and on. That's why I love 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:05.639 that song. It just keeps going for like ten minutes 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:09.399 or something. But I could see it happening. Um, you know, 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:12.719 Moanna is sitting there with Lynn Manuel looking forward as 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:18.399 he got you know, yeah, actually and well yeah, you 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:20.440 know it was it? What was that year? Um, everybody 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.399 thought it was gonna be was it Lady Gaga and 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:26.040 Sam Smith? One? Last year? Was it last year? What 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:29.280 was that year? Like a decade? What was the child 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:33.920 of nineteen? Yeah, I'm still shocked by that. Unbelievable Yeah, 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:35.400 because I mean like you just went in the face 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:38.760 of everything, Like Lady Gaga was a bigger star. The 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:40.639 song was the front runner. It was a better song. 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:44.040 I don't know what happened there, unless people were just 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.720 put off by Diane Warren or something. She she does 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:50.840 get out there fierce, fiercely with her campaigns. She's been nominated, 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:58.040 like I believe it's a zility. Let's see alternative our 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:01.040 voters industry talking about affle like allegations. I mean, certainly 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:06.600 Constance wu Is you know, I haven't seen much else. 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:09.200 The funny thing is, I feel like people are talking 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:11.119 about it and that they're all asking why people aren't 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:13.520 talking about it, you know, And I'm like, if you 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:15.679 have something to say, like say it, but I you know, 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:17.359 I don't have anything to say that. I don't think 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:20.320 it's been said all right basically, So you know, could 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:22.400 that ding him at the end of the day, maybe 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:25.040 if there's some undercurrent, but I don't. I don't think 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:30.920 there is, so, you know, I think he's also um uh, 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:33.760 you know, by not speaking about it. I don't know, like, um, 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:39.360 yeah that's what I heard. Yeah, like that it has 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:43.440 I don't know. Maybe you know, if you can't talk 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:45.080 about it, then you can't talk you can talk about 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:49.679 I mean, he's it's been settled and there's legalities. It's like, 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:54.280 I don't know. Um, that's a much longer conversation, I think, 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:59.239 very clearly establishing here, Keith wants to know when does 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.679 backlash reach beyond the bubble and actually become detrimental to 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:06.119 a film's chances. Great question. It also depends on the backlash. 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:11.520 I mean, uh, I don't really know that it ever happens. Yeah, 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:14.399 you I mean in our circle like we get worried 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:17.200 about it, but then, like I remember the Argo backlash, 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:22.200 It's always question something that King's speech where there were people, 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:24.240 you know, who were piste off that it was winning 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:27.159 the guilds. But that was after Social Network spent like 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:31.760 entire entirety of December winning critics awards, So you know, 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.160 I don't know, Um, did you see, by the way, 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:37.560 every year they do those honest movie posters. Oh my god, 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:39.440 the one for La La Land was hilarious. And I 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:41.679 also don't know if you saw the US see if 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:45.000 I can find it, if you saw the Saturnight Live 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:49.960 sketch this weekend where Zizzaria, because that's as far past 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:51.439 the bubble as it goes. But that could have been 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:53.280 a funnier sketch. I thought, like, I thought it was 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:55.960 actually a very affectionate sketchy. I didn't think that they 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:57.960 were attacking La La Land. I thought it was done 0:19:57.960 --> 0:19:59.760 with Like, I kind of thought it was going to 0:19:59.840 --> 0:20:02.479 go in a different direction because I saw people tweeting 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:05.560 about it before it aired on the West Coast, and 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:07.160 I thought it was going to go in the direction 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:14.960 of uh shit. Sorry, I tuned up for trying to 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:18.080 put my words together, like use your words, use your words, Chris. 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:20.560 I just thought it was going to go in a 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:24.879 like in a backlash direction, like commenting on backlash basically 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:26.480 what I mean. And I didn't really do that. It 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:31.199 was just like, uh, you know, how dare you not 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:34.000 like this movie? But I really see that happening by 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:36.120 the way, I guess I kind of took it personally 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:39.760 like no one is saying, how dare you hate? Like 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:41.840 not like this movie? I think people are saying, like 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:45.639 why would you hate on it? I can't imagine why? 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:50.800 Why is this movie that like lions Gate completely took 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:53.000 a huge risk on. That's what cracks me up. As 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:55.240 people are like, oh, it's like Taylor to win Oscars, 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:58.879 And I'm like, did Damien Chaselle pitched to this to 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:01.119 these guys? And Sunday so a few years ago, this 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:04.240 this dream project he had for years with original music, 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:07.920 not by anyone music, and they put they put money 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:10.439 into this thing and it's paying off for them, Like 0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:13.240 this is not like, this is not engineered. It's hilarious 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:16.600 to me. Okay, So then dot CEO dot K does 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:21.960 I'm sorry, what does these um honest movie posts? You 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:24.920 should check them out. So the Lala lamposter is funk. 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:27.680 The backlash we all need this right now? Well that's 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:31.920