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Speaker 2: dot com. Well, the Giants two weeks ago on Thursday

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Speaker 2: Night Football took it to the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: And they beat him handily, thirty four to seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Well, this was some payback because the Eagles dominate the

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Speaker 2: New York Football Giants today thirty eight to twenty. And

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Speaker 2: it was really thirty eight to twelve if not for

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Speaker 2: a late or thirty eight thirteen if not for a

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Speaker 1: But the Giants in garbage time an tiki.

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Speaker 2: This one, to me has to start with the defense

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Speaker 2: where the Eagles rush in the Well, Eagles go for

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Speaker 2: four twenty seven overall. Yeah, yeah, But more importantly and

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Speaker 2: more significantly, they rushed for two hundred and seventy six

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Speaker 2: yards on eight point four yards per carry. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna use one impossible. It's impossible to win a game

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Speaker 2: if you allow that type of yard is against you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look that the Eagles ran for more

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Speaker 3: last week we went after a little bit Shane Bowen

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Speaker 3: what you're seeing from this Giants defense, especially against a

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Speaker 3: team that it came into the game averaging three point

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Speaker 3: four yards per carry. They got gassed on the run.

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Speaker 3: And as this game went on, John, it felt more

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Speaker 3: and more like the effort was failing, that the schemes

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Speaker 3: to do. This game obviously started to get away from

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Speaker 3: to fall, clearly on Chain Bowen and this in this defense,

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Speaker 3: they could make the stops they gave up way too

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Speaker 3: many huge plays in the run game, and that's not

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Speaker 3: even counting all the things that went wrong offensively.

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Speaker 1: I'll just go through the drives TIKI.

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Speaker 2: Two plays sixty five yards touchdown, eight plays fifty yards

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Speaker 1: The only punt of the game for the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: Three plays and they get a four yards in the punt,

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Speaker 2: seven to fifty three in a touchdown, eleven for forty

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Speaker 2: then they run out the clock at the end of

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Speaker 2: the game. Yeah, it's essentially when you tack on what

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Speaker 2: happened at the end of the Denver Broncos games, it's

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Speaker 2: it's basically ten or twelve straight drives by this Giant

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Speaker 1: And I don't even know what to say.

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Speaker 2: It's it's one punt in the last fourteen drives by

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Speaker 1: And that's just unacceptable.

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Speaker 3: It's somebody's got to take account for that, and obviously

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Speaker 1: And it was ugly, man, this is this was a blowout.

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Speaker 3: This felt like the Eagles Giants matchups over the last

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Speaker 1: Early in this game, the Giants responded.

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Speaker 3: After the Eagles go down on that sixty five yard

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Speaker 2: Again, and we were concerned about the past defense with

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Speaker 3: Now, they were you know, Look, you get the edges

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Speaker 3: it sucks, but you're on the road in a vision

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Speaker 1: Like you can't even compete with them this week.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: Obviously a lot of this has to do with the

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Speaker 3: big part of what this Giants team was and what

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Speaker 2: And the latest report was that Tracy was rather Scataboo,

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Speaker 2: you watched it, gruesome, don't don't don't don't search for

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Speaker 2: at where his ankles just kind of pointed the wrong direction.

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Speaker 1: That was ugly. Yeah, we'll talk about that and more.

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Speaker 2: Quick Time Out. We'll come back Brian Dable from the podium.

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Speaker 2: All the reaction from the locker room. Giants fall to

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Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles in this one by the final score

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Speaker 2: of thirty eight to twenty.

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Speaker 1: We're back here and hacking Giants extra point. Pard in me.

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Speaker 2: Giants fall to the Philadelphia Eagles in this game thirty

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Speaker 2: eight to twenty Tiki. We talked about the defense offense. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you mentioned the injury to camp Scataboo. Let's kind of

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Speaker 2: go big picture first with that. Yeah, how does that

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Speaker 2: change things in your mind for how the Giants approach

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Speaker 2: this running game?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so look, someone's now is gonna fall on

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Speaker 3: Tyron and Tracy to be the player that he was

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Speaker 3: reading a lot of the schemes and given his offensive

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Speaker 3: a big part of his youth and young development a

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Speaker 3: him to pick this part up of the Giants offense.

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Speaker 3: We know that they run, want to run the ball

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Speaker 3: with Jackson Dart at quarterback. They do a lot of

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Speaker 3: create scenes, it makes it easier for UH and and

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Speaker 3: so much easier for the offensive play calling and for

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Speaker 3: Jackson Dart to execute. I think we saw a little

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Speaker 3: bit more panicked Jackson Dart this in this game than

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Speaker 1: Lot of mistakes.

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Speaker 3: They had five sacks in this game, and most of

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Speaker 3: those were on Jackson Dart.

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Speaker 1: Let's go down to Brian Dable at the podium.

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Speaker 6: Ran when they tell you the bumble play, Wan, did you.

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Speaker 7: Did you challenge afterwards?

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Speaker 9: I'll just say our guys upstairs were pretty adamant about

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Speaker 10: When he initially said you weren't a lot of challenge

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Speaker 9: They wrong that you were a lot of challenges Yeah, No,

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Speaker 9: Uh about Scott is he I have not seen him? Uh,

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Speaker 9: I've I haven't seen him.

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Speaker 9: Uh yeah, I spread it out there to the right,

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Speaker 9: and so we had a couple of chances on him

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Speaker 9: and he made a nice play that was a big one.

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Speaker 9: That was a big one thirty whatever plus yards. So yeah,

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Speaker 9: there's a number of those, you know in the run

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Pat probably.

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Speaker 9: There's a number of things.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's never just one thing. When you give up

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Speaker 9: three hundred yards or whatever. It was close to three

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Speaker 9: hundred yards, could be a call, could be run fit,

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Speaker 9: could be a mistackle, a number of things. But that

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Speaker 9: was obviously way too many yards against the team. You

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Speaker 9: know that we knew, you know, wanted to run the ball. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Nice guys, that's Brian Able to podium. Brought to you

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Speaker 2: by Hackensack and Maridinal Health. Keep getting better quick time out.

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Speaker 2: We'll come back here from Jackson Dart on the podium. Well,

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Speaker 4: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 6: Fourth and Golf to two. Little Jordan Humphrey out to

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Speaker 6: the right, Robinson to the left, shotgun set for Dark,

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Speaker 4: At number again. Man, this kid's a fighter.

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Speaker 9: Man.

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Speaker 4: He takes a big shot. He's undeterred.

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Speaker 2: of the New York Giants uh, Tiggy John Schmelk with

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about some of the things Brian

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Speaker 2: What do you think Jackson Dart's average time to throw

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Speaker 1: Game was at least four seconds it was longer three

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Speaker 3: It's just when you see what looks like a man

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Speaker 3: They had some success running those gap schemes where they

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Speaker 1: The Giants have been so good at the start of

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Speaker 2: Everything was being dictated by them.

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Speaker 3: Well, them and the officials. He won't criticize the officials.

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Speaker 2: not balanced, you can't run it. You can't, you know,

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Speaker 2: all right, on this possession, we'll running on a second eight.

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Speaker 2: If we get negative y rds, we have to punt that.

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Speaker 2: It's okay when you're down two score. You can't approach

447
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Speaker 2: it that way. Yeah, you almost right.

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Speaker 3: You're almost looking for the hero play every every single

449
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Speaker 3: every single drive, and football doesn't doesn't work that way,

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Speaker 3: especially against good teams. And I know we've we've had

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Speaker 3: some negative thoughts or perceptions of this Eagles team despite

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Speaker 3: their five and two now six and two records, But

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Speaker 3: they're a good team. Every now and then, they'll they'll

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Speaker 3: they'll have a fault. They lost to the Giants two

455
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Speaker 3: weeks ago, they lost to the Denver Broncos the.

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Speaker 1: Week before that.

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Speaker 3: But there's still six and two, even when they have

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Speaker 3: played ugly, they've been in almost all of their games.

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Speaker 3: And so when you give a good team a lead

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Speaker 3: and then they can tee off on you, it gets

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Speaker 3: really hard to find success and to find that I

462
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Speaker 3: don't know that that that that that come from behind mentality,

463
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Speaker 3: especially for a young quarterback. And all was look this

464
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Speaker 3: is like this is a learning experience for Jackson Dart.

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Speaker 3: He'll learn not to take as many sacks as he

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Speaker 3: did in this game and and hopefully give himself a

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Speaker 3: chance to make it a game in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: I think part way through the second quarter it almost

469
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Speaker 3: felt like this thing was getting away from from him

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Speaker 3: and this offense from a from a play calling and

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Speaker 3: scheme perspective.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick time out. We'll come back.

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Speaker 2: We're still wedding on Jackson Dark We'll get into the

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Speaker 2: officiating that and a whole lot more. Right after this,

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Speaker 2: the Giants again faulted the Eagles thirty eight to twenty.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the WFAN Giants

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Speaker 5: Radio Network.

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Speaker 10: This is Darius Slayton, and you're listening to the radio

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Speaker 10: home of Big Blue the Fan, WFAN and WFAN FM,

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Speaker 10: New York.

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Speaker 6: We'll go fourth and eleven, the Giant thirty two crawling

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Speaker 6: by eighteen nine seven ago in the game, dark back deep.

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Speaker 4: Ball, white side.

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Speaker 1: Put on the run by Darius Slayton.

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Speaker 6: He's to the ten, to the five, and he's in

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Speaker 6: for the touchdown.

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Speaker 4: They got a flag rag where he separated from the defender.

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Speaker 17: Pass interference offense number eighteen ten yard on the previous

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Speaker 17: lit on fourth, fourth and eleven from the Giant thirty

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Speaker 17: two yard line, they just called off interference.

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Speaker 1: Well, Bob and Carl's reaction kind of says it all.

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Speaker 1: We're back here on Giants extra point.

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Speaker 2: Giants fall to the Eagles thirty eight to twenty and tiki.

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Speaker 1: They were calls that went both ways in this game.

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Speaker 2: By the way, us A Jackson dard that he looked

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Speaker 2: like it should have been a fumble got overturned to

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Speaker 2: Nickeleplee pass, but they called Kaevon Thibodeau the officials on

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Speaker 2: a off side penalty when on replay was pretty clear

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Speaker 2: Jordan my Lota moved on, the player was.

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Speaker 1: A lean Johnson. I think it was my lot of

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Speaker 1: he moved on. The players left.

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Speaker 2: Then earlier in the game you also had the Tush

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Speaker 2: push where looked like there was a false start, and

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Speaker 2: worse than that is that it should have been a

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Speaker 2: strip and fumble recovery from Kaevon Thibodeau. Somehow, while Jalen

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Speaker 2: Hurts is still gaining yards and his knee is on

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Speaker 2: the ground, they called ford progress.

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Speaker 1: He is not on the ground.

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Speaker 2: It is not, as it was not on the ground

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Speaker 2: and he was still moving forward.

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Speaker 1: They called him.

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Speaker 2: They pulled the play dead due to forward progress. That's

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Speaker 2: not a reviewable play, so Brian Dable has to challenge.

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Speaker 2: For that challenge to be successful, the ball has to

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Speaker 2: come out literally at first contact.

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Speaker 1: Which it did not.

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Speaker 2: But just overall, both coaches very upset at different point

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Speaker 2: to this game.

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Speaker 3: This was a very This was a poorly officiated game,

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Speaker 3: somewhat so that the broadcast was talking about it about

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Speaker 3: how they're not having quite an all Pro day from

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Speaker 3: an officiating standpoint. But the touchdown that was called back

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Speaker 3: that we just played to Darius Slayton, it was an

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Speaker 3: example of Jackson Dart doing what we were just alluding to,

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Speaker 3: seeing a read. The Eagles had were playing a two

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Speaker 3: high look, so it looked like there was a cloud

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Speaker 3: coverage over top of Darius Slayton. But at the snap

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Speaker 3: of the ball they rotated into a single high look

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Speaker 3: and Quinnon Mitchell and Darius Slayton are manna. Man is

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Speaker 3: just a go route your best against our best, and

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Speaker 3: the ball was perfectly thrown by Jackson Dart. Now was

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Speaker 3: their hand fighting going on? Of course, Mitchell is holding

533
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Speaker 3: Darius Slayton's arm and then he's holding his jersey and

534
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Speaker 3: you get a little bit of a push off and

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Speaker 3: the hand up near the chest by Darius Slayton.

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Speaker 1: To me, that's a play that you just you don't call.

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Speaker 3: You let that one go because both guys are kind

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00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 3: of at faull and not that it was game changing

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Speaker 3: in any way, but it's a big play and an

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Speaker 3: example of how poorly this game was officiated. And when

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Speaker 3: they go back and I'm sure grade this one grades

542
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Speaker 3: which we will not ever find out about, it's not

543
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Speaker 3: gonna be a positive one because there was so much

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Speaker 3: bad for both sides.

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Speaker 1: That happened in this game.

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Speaker 2: I understand visually if you're an official watching that slatons

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Speaker 2: like it. There is jarring separation late in the route

548
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 2: that looked unnatural, so I understand why they throw the flag.

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Speaker 1: But usually unless you.

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Speaker 2: Get really an extended arm there, they're not gonna call it.

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Speaker 2: And to your point, Mitchell's also grabbing the georgy. Then

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Speaker 2: call it both ways called offensive defensive, then replayed the down, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and anything like that, and again, but the bigger plays

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Speaker 2: he was the first half one, of course, on the

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00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 2: tush push and they continue to fail to be able

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00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 2: to officiate that play properly, whether it's false starts or

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Speaker 2: forward progress, whatever it is, they have not been able

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00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 2: to officiate that play properly this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost it's almost going to have to become

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00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 3: a play that's officiated from not on the field, because

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Speaker 3: you're not seeing the false starts, you're not seeing the

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Speaker 3: action that happens around or at the snap of the ball,

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Speaker 3: the false starts, et cetera. It's always going to be

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Speaker 3: positive yard. They're always going to get that yard. And

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Speaker 3: mostly Jalen Hurts does a really good job of just

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Speaker 3: getting behind his ball, his pads, getting behind his offensive

567
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Speaker 3: lineman and diving into the pile. But on this particular one,

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Speaker 3: he's diving into the pile, reaching the ball forward and.

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Speaker 1: Caveon Thibodeau takes it away from him.

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Speaker 3: So how that's not a fumble doesn't make sense to me,

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Speaker 3: And because it's not reviewable, there's no way to debate it.

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Speaker 3: So to me, this is going that's the that play

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Speaker 3: maybe in particular, is going to go to the Competition

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Speaker 3: committee at some point and you're gonna look at it

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Speaker 3: and say, how is this a play where the player

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Speaker 3: is still moving, He's not down by contact forward progress.

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Speaker 3: Has it not been stopped because he's still moving forward?

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Speaker 3: How is that not a fumble?

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Speaker 2: And by the way, that's why coaches tell players, unless

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Speaker 2: you're at the goal line, you do not reach the

581
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Speaker 2: ball forward. I want to get to Darius Slayton here.

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Speaker 2: We have him in the locker roo match of the game.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he was asked about that play, and more so,

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Speaker 2: let's go to Slayton come that.

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Speaker 18: I mean not to make an excuse for it, but

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Speaker 18: I mean, how hard is that the deal with?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it's certainly not ideal, and you come

588
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Speaker 10: in with a game playing you know, certain guys expect

589
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Speaker 10: to play. But at the end of the day, we

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Speaker 10: have a lot of good football players on this team.

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Speaker 4: And guy goes down. We have to pickful guys that

592
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Speaker 4: should be able to go and thank at the job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Darius's.

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Speaker 12: Kind of.

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Speaker 10: I wouldn't say it was a step back, and you

596
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Speaker 10: certainly probably weren't quite a shot a recent memory, but

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Speaker 10: I wouldn't say it was a step back. We just

598
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Speaker 10: there's just a few plays out there that we need

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Speaker 10: to make.

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Speaker 1: So anything the Eagles did.

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Speaker 18: I mean, I know the first game you didn't play in,

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Speaker 18: but just looking at the film of the first game

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Speaker 18: to now, like what kind of adjustment that they make

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Speaker 18: that made it hark you guys said that.

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Speaker 10: Maybe, Yeah, they switched up some coverages from the first

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Speaker 10: time around. They played a little bit, a little bit

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Speaker 10: a lot more of different coverages than they did the

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Speaker 10: first time.

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Speaker 1: So good on them.

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Speaker 10: But you know, at the same time, we had a

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Speaker 10: place that you could have beat them with.

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Speaker 4: We just got to execute better and.

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Speaker 10: Beat them up after beating out there in catching the injury,

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Speaker 10: how did that first catch the field that lets in touchdown? Yeah,

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Speaker 10: it felt good, you know, be able to get back

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Speaker 10: into it and get tackled that first time and get

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Speaker 10: that first going back and kind of get the jitters.

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Speaker 12: Off here where you want to pitch on it off?

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Speaker 4: Can you either come Brown Road or not?

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Speaker 18: What's what's sort of the just the mental save this

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Speaker 18: team after last week's loss and then dealing with the

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Speaker 18: injuries today. I mean, like, you know, I know, it's

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Speaker 18: just another game, but I mean it's you know, you

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Speaker 18: guys aren't robots out here, right, Like a lot you're

625
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Speaker 18: dealing with yeah.

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Speaker 12: I mean it's definitely not ideal.

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Speaker 10: We want to win, it's fighting to win. We're trying

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Speaker 10: to find waste win and I believe that we will

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Speaker 10: find race win which had the keys, and keep working

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Speaker 10: and keep going.

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Speaker 2: And I do want to point out he was not

632
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Speaker 2: asked about that particular player during the media availability.

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Speaker 1: Uh, there were a couple of players people don't want

634
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Speaker 1: to criticize. Don't ask me. I don't want to get fined.

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Speaker 2: Correct move if you're Darius, absolutely right. There were two

636
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Speaker 2: players are in this game that we talked about.

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Speaker 1: I believe it was at halftime. You add THEO.

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00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: Johnson have a little wheel route down the left side

639
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: line that he was unable to come down with him Hana.

640
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: Darius had one himself down the right sideline, where again

641
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 2: he tries to create late separation with a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a push off on that dude does not get called,

643
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: goes up with one hand.

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Speaker 1: He could have come down with that ball either taking Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, And so that the one down the right sideline,

646
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Speaker 3: the earlier one that you were talking about, he again

647
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 3: it was hand ringing, it was hand fighting. Uh, he's

648
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Speaker 3: he's trying to get free, he's getting somewhat held, his

649
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 3: arm is up in the defender's face. He tries to

650
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Speaker 3: one hand it. The only complaint I have with that

651
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 3: is you're not a one hand ball catcher. That's just

652
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Speaker 3: not his skill set. So if you're gonna do that,

653
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 3: you have to fight as hard as you can to

654
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 3: get both hands out in front of you so you

655
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 3: can make that catch. And if you make that catch,

656
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Speaker 3: I mean maybe at that point it changes the momentum

657
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 3: somewhat in the favor of the New York Giants. But

658
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 3: that was another incompletion on third down that it forced

659
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Speaker 3: the Giants offense to stagnate again, and the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: Took advantage of it.

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Speaker 3: They had no qualms with just like methodically moving a

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Speaker 3: ball over and over and over again, whether it was

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Speaker 3: with the throws, quick throws, digs across the middle, running

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Speaker 3: the ball with Saquan until he tweaked his hamstring or

665
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Speaker 3: groin or whatever it was, and then with Tank Bigsby,

666
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Speaker 3: who also ran for one hundred yards. It was just

667
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Speaker 3: it was a poor defensive effort all the way around,

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Speaker 3: I think, scheme wise and effort wise, and if there

669
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Speaker 3: was one big culprit in this game, defensively it was

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Speaker 3: Darius Muissau on the sixty five yard run. He didn't

671
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Speaker 3: get outside and forced that play back inside. He allowed

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Speaker 3: himself to be doubled off of the block from the

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Speaker 3: Eagles left side of that offensive line, and then a

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Speaker 3: mistackle in the backfield.

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Speaker 1: Is just so much much.

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Speaker 3: Lack of execution that is frustrating when you're seeing it

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Speaker 3: in real time, and even more so when you get

678
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Speaker 3: your butt kicked as bad as the Giants did.

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Speaker 2: Giants Football is brought to you locally by four and

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Speaker 2: one performance and capability at every turn.

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Speaker 1: Get behind the way of a New FOURD truck or

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Speaker 1: SUV Ford Official truck at SUV of the New York Giants,

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Speaker 1: Quick time out. We'll come back.

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Speaker 2: We're still winning, Jackson Dart, we have a couple other

685
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Speaker 2: players in the locker room as well. As we continue

686
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Speaker 2: on Giants Extra Point. The Giants again fall to the

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles thirty eight to twenty.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the WFAN Giants

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Speaker 5: Radio Network.

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Speaker 19: This is Jermaine Leminor and you're listening to the radio

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Speaker 19: home of Big Blue the Fan, WFAN and WFAN FM,

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Speaker 19: New York We're back.

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Speaker 2: Here on Giants extra point. Giants fall to the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: Giants fall to the Philaelpha Eagles point. We're watching the

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Speaker 2: Bronco game on a red zone right here, thirty eight

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Speaker 2: to twenty to the Philadelphia Eagles in Philadelphia. Giants still

698
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Speaker 2: have not beaten the Eagles in Philly since that twenty

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Speaker 2: thirteen season. We're gonna hear from Jackson Dordan just a

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Speaker 2: little bit, but first let's go to Philly.

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Speaker 1: Waiting for the buses down there to depart.

702
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: Is Paul Datino and Paul obviously a game that was

703
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Speaker 2: diametrically opposite of what we saw two weeks ago, where

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Speaker 2: the Giants had that were with the Eagles. It was

705
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Speaker 2: the complete opposite way here where the Eagles dominating in

706
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Speaker 2: every way, shape or form.

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Speaker 1: Did we lose Paul? All right? We will try to

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Speaker 1: get Paulatino back up.

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Speaker 2: We cannot hear him Johns sh Maulctiki Barber here on

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Speaker 2: Giants extra point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you said, I mean it was a This

712
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 3: was a deflating loss if you're the New York Giants,

713
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 3: because you believed, because you just beat him, that you

714
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 3: could play a tight game with the Eagles, and from

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Speaker 3: the very beginning it felt like it got away from

716
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Speaker 3: you in the run game. The one thing that you

717
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 3: couldn't do was allow this run game, which has been

718
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 3: stagnant for the Eagles for much of the first seven games,

719
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Speaker 3: to start to explode. And from the very beginning you

720
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 3: knew it was going to be somewhat of a long day.

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Speaker 3: After sakwarm barkley sixty five yard touchdown and then ultimately

722
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Speaker 3: he goes over one hundred yards before for half and

723
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Speaker 3: then they rush for in total two hundred and seventy

724
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Speaker 3: six yards, which is a beat down.

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Speaker 1: All right, now we have pulled it, you know down

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Speaker 1: in Philly.

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Speaker 2: My understanding, Paul, that is that you're trying to hide

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Speaker 2: from some hostile Philly fans down there.

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Speaker 8: No, I you know what it is. Whenever the Giants

730
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Speaker 8: come down here, things go wrong, including the cell signal

731
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Speaker 8: outside the bus here. I'm just good. I didn't get

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Speaker 8: right over yet. But I will tell you this, John,

733
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Speaker 8: in reference to what you said about the domination, you're right,

734
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Speaker 8: and I think at the start of third quarter, the

735
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Speaker 8: Giants get that second half kickoff, which was part of

736
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Speaker 8: their plan to defer, and at that point it's twenty

737
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Speaker 8: one to ten. Eagles have been in pretty good control.

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Speaker 8: You know. The Giants already have the second quarter injury

739
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Speaker 8: to Scatterbreo, and they had to overcome that situation mentally

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Speaker 8: and emotionally. And they come and they go three and out,

741
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Speaker 8: and what do the Eagles do. They go right back

742
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Speaker 8: down the field and they tack on another field goal.

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Speaker 8: I thought, right there, if you had any thoughts about

744
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Speaker 8: the Giants trying to plug the dam, turn the tide,

745
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Speaker 8: maybe maybe get little bit of momentum, they were gonna

746
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,919
Speaker 8: have to do something coming right out of the gate

747
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Speaker 8: in the third quarter, and they failed to do so.

748
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Speaker 8: In fact, that fury started with a sack. Yeah, and

749
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Speaker 8: that that really that really told you that Philly was

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Speaker 8: in control.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It was demoralizing in a lot of ways. I think

753
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: the biggest demoralizing factor, though, was the Cam Skataboo injury.

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Speaker 3: We don't have much of an update. I know, uh,

755
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Speaker 3: you know, Paul obviously it's it's being reported as a

756
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 3: dislocated ankle. So his season is done and hopefully his

757
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Speaker 3: recovery is good. But what did you did you get

758
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 3: a sense of a sinking, a downness by this team

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Speaker 3: because of this Camp Scataboo injury. You know Paul just

760
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Speaker 3: as well as anybody that he's been the the generator,

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Speaker 3: the catalyst in the energy for for a lot of.

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Speaker 8: The you know this Jackson dart Era, Yeah, there's no

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Speaker 8: question about a tiki. Everybody tried to say the right thing.

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Speaker 8: You know, next man up, you gotta step up, you

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Speaker 8: gotta be resilient. Everybody in that locker room just now,

766
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Speaker 8: which of course is very upset, try to put on

767
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Speaker 8: the best game face they could, because nobody wants to

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Speaker 8: use an exclusive, nobody wants a pretty party and say,

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Speaker 8: oh no, you know why me? Nobody wants to do that.

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Speaker 8: These guys are pros. They have pride, and I know

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Speaker 8: you understand where they're coming from. That you could also

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Speaker 8: see by their face and by their body language they're

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Speaker 8: feeling the gut punch. And this time it's not necessarily

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Speaker 8: just about a loss in which they performed very poorly.

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Speaker 8: It's also about losing a guy who right now has

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Speaker 8: been one of the kegs of dynamite that's given this

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Speaker 8: team some hope. And I'll be honest, I mean Tylerne Tracy.

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Speaker 8: I just got done talking to him and It hurt

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Speaker 8: him immensely, he said as Tho as he went down

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Speaker 8: right away. I played Ian, this is a guy who's

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Speaker 8: not only your teammate, but he's in that running backs role.

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Speaker 8: You know how he felt?

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Speaker 2: Well, Paul, the other thing that's got to be demoralizing,

784
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Speaker 2: aside from the injury, When you give up two hundred

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Speaker 2: and seventy six rushing yards on thirty three carries for

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Speaker 2: an eight years four yard per carry average, it's.

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Speaker 1: Almost impossible to win the football game.

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Speaker 2: We have not gotten any audio or sound yet from

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Speaker 2: from Dann and Philly, from anyone on.

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Speaker 1: The defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: So what has been said from the guys and the

792
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Speaker 2: team leaders on defense as to why the Eagles, as

793
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Speaker 2: Tiki has put it so far in this post game,

794
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: basically were able to do whatever they wanted offensively in

795
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Speaker 2: this game.

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Speaker 8: Well, John, I did talk to Bobbiokara Kay and the

797
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 8: dexter Lawrence, and both of those guys said, simply part

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Speaker 8: that the Eagles just had man for man blocking. They

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Speaker 8: took care of business. They made it a one on

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Speaker 8: one and a one on one kind of game where

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Speaker 8: their blocks. Well, yeah, on each of the Giants guys

802
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 8: and nobody was filling gaps, nobody was shedding blocks. Both

803
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 8: guys said it was everybody's fault, from the defensive line

804
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Speaker 8: to the linebackers to the secondary because after all, you

805
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 8: can't get gash like that unless the entire defense is

806
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 8: not doing its job. And they and they both said

807
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 8: that they understood that this was a complete total defensive

808
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 8: collapse against the run. And they you know what was

809
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 8: their answer, Well, we got to fix it. You know,

810
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 8: we got to come back next week. What else are

811
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Speaker 8: they going to say, Yeah, you can't talk about this

812
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 8: stuff after it happens, too, Yeah, after it happened. But

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00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 8: it did happen. And I'll say one thing. We talked

814
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 8: about this during the pregame show. And yes, there were

815
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Speaker 8: a few big runs that went behind the tackles. But

816
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Speaker 8: then immediately the guy cut outside and all of a sudden,

817
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Speaker 8: we're seeing a turnabexper yardage as guys are scooting down

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Speaker 8: the sideline. We set down the pregame. You can't let

819
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Speaker 8: them go outside like that. That's going to be a killer, right,

820
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Speaker 8: it was.

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Speaker 3: No, that's exactly what their game plan was. You saw

822
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Speaker 3: a lot of that stuff happening to the edges and

823
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Speaker 3: you know what was most discouraging about it is that

824
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 3: you'd see two defenders in the same spot. Neither one

825
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 3: of them was forcing the play back inside. They were

826
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Speaker 3: both playing the inside leverage on the runner, and the

827
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 3: runner was consistently able to get to the edge and

828
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 3: make big play after big play after big play. That's

829
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Speaker 3: including on that second and what was it twenty six

830
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 3: where they ran a draw with Tank Bigsby and he

831
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 3: picks up twenty nine yards. The same thing starts in

832
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 3: the middle of the field, contain as bad, he gets

833
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 3: to the edge and picks up a humongous first down.

834
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 3: Then I don't want to say put the game away,

835
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 3: but that kind of run made me feel like this

836
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: giant effort wasn't there defensively to even try to attempt

837
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Speaker 3: to come back against the Eagles on the road.

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Speaker 8: Speaking, anytime we're running back, sees nobody in front of him,

839
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 8: and he's down the sideline. He knows he's gonna get

840
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 8: a big chuck. It's just that simple. They better be

841
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 8: somebody over there. And you know it was just time

842
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 8: and time again the Giants failed to steal that edge,

843
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 8: and you know they played for it.

844
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Speaker 2: Anything else in the locker room, Paul, that we should

845
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: know before we let you go and you get on

846
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 2: that bush right.

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Speaker 8: At the moment, I think Jackson Dott was was late

848
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 8: with his crushers, so I don't even know if you

849
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 8: guys were able to get any audio on him. I

850
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 8: had planning that I didn't get a chance to talk

851
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 8: to him, but I could tell by his body language

852
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 8: in front of his locker he was picking this one

853
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 8: pretty hard. The guys guys in the motion a fireball,

854
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 8: and when you lose, and then you lose a terrific

855
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 8: teammate like Scataboo, who he's incredibly close with. I only

856
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 8: wish I had a chance to talk to him, but

857
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 8: I'm sure he's hurting right now.

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Speaker 1: Paul. Have a safe trip home, my friend. Thanks for

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00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: the time.

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00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 8: Thank you, John. We'll see tomorrow and we will.

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Speaker 1: Hear from Jackson Dart in just a minute. So let's

862
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 1: take a time out. We'll come back. We'll hear from

863
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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart. Talk about it Giants again, Fall to the

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Speaker 1: Eagles thirty eight to twenty. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the WFAN Giants

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Speaker 5: Radio Network.

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Speaker 20: This is Jackson Dart and you're listening to Giants Football

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Speaker 20: on the fan WFAN and WFA n FM, New York.

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Speaker 6: Now the Giants are in the red zone. Nine of

870
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Speaker 6: their eleven red zone touchdownsers come with Dard at quarterbacks

871
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 6: first to ten in the eighteen guard in a shotgun set,

872
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 6: Eagles break pressure, Dark throws one left wide open.

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Speaker 1: Scattabu makes the catch and for the touchdown.

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Speaker 2: That touchdown by camp Scataboo unfortunately could be the last

875
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: touchdown for Skataboo this year. That was the culmination of

876
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: a six play fifty two yard for the Giants that

877
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 2: tied this game for seven in the first quarter, and

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Speaker 2: it was.

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Speaker 1: The scoring drive of the game. Brought to you by Citizens.

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Speaker 2: For every scoring drive this season, Citizens will donate seven

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars to the Giants Foundation to support

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00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: their work tackling important community issues, improving overall health and

883
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: empowering our youth. That pass came from Jackson Dart, who

884
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: did address the media after the game on the podium.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen in Jack.

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00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 12: Dad, Yeah, I was devastated.

887
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 20: It's my boy man, so seeing him go down and

888
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 20: obviously like reacting to what happened and that just that sucks.

889
00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 20: It's the worst part of this camp.

890
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 4: Did you say anything?

891
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: Can you say anything to him?

892
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

893
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 12: Of course, what point you said, i'm'a keeps up turning us?

894
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 4: How doust?

895
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 10: You guys just try to keep playing and obviously it's football.

896
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Speaker 21: Was just how up was it?

897
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: Just for that drive to try to keep going.

898
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 4: After losing scab?

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00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 12: I mean, you know during you know, him getting t

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Speaker 12: carted off.

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00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 20: Uh, it's emotional, s but you try to go back

902
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 20: in the huddle and try to uh just reload and uh,

903
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 20: you know, just try to go down the score.

904
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Speaker 22: Did you feel a lot of past year playing in

905
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Speaker 22: the class, No, not at all.

906
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 9: All those ships to keep losing weapons, right, I mean

907
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 9: you're lose believe now, Cam, I mean obviously make.

908
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 13: You much helper for you guys.

909
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 4: You can't lose to you just play biggas.

910
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: What's that been like for you?

911
00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 12: Try not to think of it like that.

912
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 20: You know, I gotta keep making plays and you know,

913
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 20: do my job to put our team in the best situation.

914
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 20: You know, obviously it's not ideal and it stings, and.

915
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 12: You know there's more.

916
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 20: People in the rotation, but uh, you know, I got

917
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 20: I gotta be better too and making more plays and

918
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 20: you know, putting us in a good situation to win.

919
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 4: You just played that two weeks ago.

920
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 21: What did they do different matchup?

921
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 12: They did a good job. They did a good job.

922
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 12: It did a really good job.

923
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 20: Just kind of changed it up on us from what

924
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 20: they did game one and they played sound and yeah,

925
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 20: I thought that, you know, they had a they had

926
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Speaker 20: a good plan for us coming into the game offensively

927
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Speaker 20: and defensively. So you you definitely gotta give them credit

928
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 20: for for their plan.

929
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Speaker 17: Take in the second half to sort of want to

930
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Speaker 17: keep you in the Yeah, kept.

931
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Speaker 1: Their outside guys, Why how much did you do?

932
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Speaker 14: Said and that change any career?

933
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Speaker 20: Uh, I just think that's just kind of what the

934
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 20: plan is for most teams going forward.

935
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Speaker 13: Uh.

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Speaker 20: The Broncos did it too, So yeah, they stayed disciplined

937
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Speaker 20: in their gaps, and.

938
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I just thought that they played They played a

939
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Speaker 12: good game.

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00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 23: The pla the what did you show what you should

941
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 23: already get into the people as well, just about be

942
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Speaker 23: getting with stay in the battle and that just shoot

943
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Speaker 23: with your whole offense to get in the whole team,

944
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 23: staying in the battle and keeping them blake.

945
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 24: Going as keep going.

946
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 20: Nuh, I'm not ever gonna quit. I don't care what

947
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,479
Speaker 20: the situation is. If I'm on that field, I'm playing

948
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Speaker 20: as hard as i can. So I'm go'na try to

949
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 20: lead the best that I can.

950
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 8: Uh.

951
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 20: I have the same expectation every time we go out

952
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 20: on the field, and try to preach that to the guys,

953
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,479
Speaker 20: so you know when when when we step through the lines,

954
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 20: we should be competing and and playing as hard as

955
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 20: we can every time.

956
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 25: Actually set gumps okay, team meets uh one Dale said today, Yeah,

957
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 25: you can tell how much Jackson hates to lose. You're

958
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 25: new here, some of your teammates have experienced a lot

959
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 25: of losers here. How does that mentality you have to

960
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 25: maybe needs the transcendence of every book.

961
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 20: Well, we gotta start figuring out ways to win because

962
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 20: I do I I I hate it and I'm not

963
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 20: used to it and.

964
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 12: I'm not I'm not just gonna accept it.

965
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Speaker 20: I'm not gonna be okay with it, and we as

966
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Speaker 20: a team can't be okay with it, and.

967
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 12: Uh, we gotta figure figure this out.

968
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 14: Definitely be seen right now, but as annoying or emotional

969
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 14: game in a way.

970
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 3: Basically about this game that they made Smathers, is there

971
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 3: anything to that?

972
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 4: Is that about this one?

973
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 16: That just that's the team?

974
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 24: You know, a little bitter?

975
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 20: I felt like, honestly, I felt like we kind of

976
00:45:54,880 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 20: got Tryna trying to say it's not way. I thought

977
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 20: they did just a lot more things better than we

978
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 20: did in a lot of areas. And I don't like

979
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 20: the feeling of I thought they really kind of dominated

980
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 20: most of the game, and it's kind of it's it's

981
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:29,479
Speaker 20: an embarrassing feeling. So that's just kind of how I feel.

982
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 20: And it's just it's it's frustrating because you know, I

983
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 20: felt confident coming into this game, and you know, I felt,

984
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 20: you know, obviously extra motivated because of how things happened

985
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 20: last last week, and you know, I really, you know,

986
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 20: didn't want one to lead to another. So just you know,

987
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 20: disappointed that we lost.

988
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 26: Could be weeks were to be last week ago.

989
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: How are you how you managed the loads.

990
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 4: Yourn right now? Uh?

991
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 20: I mean the whole you know, it just motivates everybody more,

992
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 20: you know, throughout the whole facility.

993
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 12: You know, it's just it's not just the players, it's

994
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 12: not just.

995
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 20: The coaches, it's it's everybody so I hope everybody you know,

996
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 20: can be more and more motivated to get better, to

997
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 20: try to take you know, another step in your preparation

998
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 20: and how you lead. And uh, you know that goes

999
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 20: for me too. You know, I have to take accountability

1000
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 20: because you know, I need to be way better. And

1001
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 20: you know, fair or unfair, a quarterback is judged by

1002
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 20: you know, your wins and losses. So we gotta we

1003
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 20: got we gotta bounce back. And I feel confident in

1004
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 20: the guys, and uh, you know that's what we're gonna do.

1005
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 7: Want who said.

1006
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 12: It is a feeling, well, this is this is all

1007
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Speaker 12: fresh so.

1008
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 20: And I'll you know, I'm still going to be frustrated,

1009
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 20: you know, tomorrow about it. But like I said, I

1010
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 20: hope it's just motivating for everybody. It's going to be

1011
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 20: motivating for me to be better. And uh, I mean

1012
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 20: overall feeling is I just I hate losing, and everybody

1013
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 20: here hates losing.

1014
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 12: And we got to figure out how to start winning.

1015
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: And that's Jackson Dardy after the game and Ticky he

1016
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 2: does not like to lose, and he has lost the

1017
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 2: co He lost some games at all Miss, he lost

1018
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 2: some games LA this year.

1019
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: But for the most part, they were very competitive, close games.

1020
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 2: This is probably and I have to go back and

1021
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: look at his look at his college game log, but

1022
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 2: ole Miss has been very good. I doubt they had

1023
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: many games where they got absolutely dominated from.

1024
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: Start to finish. This is probably a little bit of

1025
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,479
Speaker 1: a different feeling for Jackson.

1026
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 3: Oh, it definitely is. And look, some of it is

1027
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 3: obviously on him and the offense because they just couldn't

1028
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 3: generate anything consistently and their drives were short. But really

1029
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 3: it feels like this falls on the other side. I

1030
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 3: know we started this postgame talking about the unforgivable and

1031
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 3: they with which his defense played and how you know,

1032
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 3: I don't know, Shane Bowen is going to take a

1033
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 3: lot of the criticism here. But in the second half,

1034
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 3: the Eagles had three possessions that they scored on. They

1035
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 3: effectively had the ball for majority of the second half.

1036
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 3: A long seventy two yard drive after it was twenty

1037
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,919
Speaker 3: four to thirteen, then a long six place seventy three

1038
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 3: yard drive, all resulting in touchdowns. So if there was

1039
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 3: ever going to be a moment then you needed the

1040
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 3: defense to step up and make a play.

1041
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: That was it.

1042
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 3: And it's when you keep just getting punched in the

1043
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 3: face offensively and then defensively, you just can't get off

1044
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 3: the field.

1045
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: You're not winning those games.

1046
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 3: As we talked a couple of weeks ago about how

1047
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 3: complimentary football this Giants team felt like, it didn't feel

1048
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 3: like that at all. Today either side didn't take care

1049
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 3: of their business.

1050
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: A six and a half minute time of possession advantage

1051
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: for the Eagles in this game because that Giant defense

1052
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 2: could not manage to get off the field, only forced

1053
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 2: again one punt today. They gave up five consecutive scores

1054
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,479
Speaker 2: on the last five drives of the game last week.

1055
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 2: So you're looking at basically one punt in the last

1056
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 2: thirteen or fourteen possession and I'm.

1057
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: Looking on to count that last in the game possession.

1058
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 21: Right.

1059
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: That's bad. It's just that's bad. It's not good. You

1060
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: can't you can't justify it.

1061
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: And one of the leaders on the defense is Brian Burns.

1062
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 2: He's always very thoughtful after every game. I want to

1063
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: hear him before we say goodbye to our network today.

1064
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 2: Here's Brian Burns in the locker room match of this loss.

1065
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 4: Miss tackles gat.

1066
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 9: Other than that, they were just really John like you know, mutralize.

1067
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 12: Job, mutuli, beutl d line.

1068
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 4: You know a lot of pinning pull actually, you know,

1069
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 4: being on the perimeter find like creasing.

1070
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 27: Hold and defense.

1071
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 4: Let me know, so we gotta make those It's a

1072
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 4: tough job to do.

1073
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 12: It is better better, I mean it's easy to say

1074
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 12: it than dang.

1075
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 4: We gotta make these plays.

1076
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: What we talk about?

1077
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 21: Actually, what did you think of that?

1078
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 14: From a home like that?

1079
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 4: Like, what do you guys supposed to do that?

1080
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 12: I ain't really be fine yet.

1081
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 4: The resumate they call, you know, it is tricky.

1082
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 8: You know s.

1083
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: Two well two weeks ago, you know, they allow them

1084
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: to push.

1085
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 14: The power and now you know you stop the surge

1086
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 14: and and they go to whistle quick and you know

1087
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 14: teams had to have good play by getting the ball out.

1088
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 14: I really feel like that should have been a turnover.

1089
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 23: Wow, you know it's uh a problem.

1090
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: It's art your hoodium make weird call?

1091
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 26: Don't that the biggest problem with that with defending that

1092
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 26: play like you don't yeah, you don't not even gonna

1093
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 26: call it, Like you can stop the surge and they

1094
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 26: can allow it to keep pushing or you know what

1095
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 26: I'm saying, Like it's just it's just tough, Like it's

1096
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 26: just I don't know, some weird play.

1097
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 28: All last door, Like you say, stay on spec student

1098
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 28: sits again, then let's feel the same kind of other

1099
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 28: years or last year, or it's a more hope it's

1100
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 28: for some other reasons.

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Speaker 4: Uh, my company is gonna remain the same. Like I said,

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Speaker 4: I cheat every week.

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00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 14: As in his own weak You know, we beat we

1104
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 14: beat beat 'em convincently two weeks ago, and today was

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Speaker 14: a different story.

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Speaker 4: You know, hats off to them.

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Speaker 14: They did a good job of their game playing, good

1108
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 14: job of the execution. Uh, we just gotta get back

1109
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 14: to our fundamentals and we gotta make these plays.

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00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 12: Man co collectively did this whole team.

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00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 28: You can take a step back to theay, this is

1112
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 28: not the kind of game we've played very author this year.

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00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 14: Yeah, I would say, I mean I feel like we

1114
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 14: we did struggle on all phases of the game. You know,

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00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 14: I can I'm only gonna speak for the defense though.

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00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 14: Today defense gotta ask for so uh, I hope, I

1117
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 14: hope everybody take that, take that with a chip on

1118
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 14: the show and then you know, get back and allowed

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00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 14: a few of them.

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Speaker 12: You know, So it's a halfway mark, you got double

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00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 12: the sacks. Do you take a personal pride at all

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Speaker 12: in what you're doing?

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Speaker 14: You know, I'm I'm I'm I'm happy for uh, you know,

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Speaker 14: as the fast start I ever had at my career.

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Speaker 14: I mean for my career, you know, any see one.

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00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 14: You know, I'm happy for that. But you know it

1127
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 14: still doesn't feel the void of losing, you know. But

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Speaker 14: you know, I'm just continued to contribute the way I

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00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 14: can and you know a lot of sacks will following

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Speaker 14: my way, you know, And I'm gonna just keep playing home.

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00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 29: It's not easy to win a major award when you

1132
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 29: do the team with the defensive player in the year.

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00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 12: That means something?

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00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 4: Did I mean that?

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Speaker 30: You know?

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00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 14: And the way you formed that question is it's true, sadly,

1137
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 14: but you know, I can only do what I can do,

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00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 14: and you know I would have calls how can casts

1139
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 14: fall and how they fall?

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00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 4: But at least I know I have no regrets that

1141
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 4: end of the season.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think too much about him.

1143
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 2: That's Brian Burns after the game, tiaky and clearly he

1144
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 2: knows the defense and not pull their weight today.

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00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: No he didn't, and look he had another sack.

1146
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,919
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's still the leader, because there's

1147
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 3: been a lot of sacks in the NFL today, but

1148
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 3: it's his tenth sack of the season that he had,

1149
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 3: and he's been dominant. He's been doing his part in

1150
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,439
Speaker 3: so many ways, and as a defensive leader, he's saying

1151
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 3: the right things and he's trying to keep this team confident.

1152
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 3: But it gets discouraging when you have a game like that.

1153
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 3: We're on the road against the Eagles, a team you

1154
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 3: think you can beat, and you just you don't give

1155
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 3: any kind of defensive resistance to an offense in Philly

1156
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 3: that had been struggling. Now, with that being said, the

1157
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 3: Eagles kind of broke out last week and part of

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00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 3: that was just a couple of big plays.

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00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: But that's what got the Giants today. Big plays and

1160
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: big plays.

1161
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 3: In the run game ended up opening it up for

1162
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 3: the Eagles to where it made it really easy to

1163
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 3: get in behind some of their run stop schemes, and

1164
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 3: DeVante Smith took huge advantage.

1165
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: Of that for a lot of this game.

1166
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 2: And you just five plays of twenty five yards and

1167
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 2: more back.

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00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't have big plays like that over

1169
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 3: and over again. Against against a good defense and a

1170
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 3: good offense like the Eagles. You're gonna lose those kind

1171
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 3: of games every single time.

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Speaker 1: Three of the five were run plays.

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00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 2: Then you had the deep pass of Johan Dotts in

1174
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 2: for forty yards in the touchdown, and you had the

1175
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 2: pass over the middle to Devonte Smith for twenty yea.

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Speaker 3: And it's hard to blame How can you blame Corey

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00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 3: b You do because obviously you're in position to make

1178
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 3: a play, your head is around.

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Speaker 1: You defended it perfectly.

1180
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 3: It was a double move down the sideline to Johan Dotson.

1181
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 3: You don't get fooled by the double move. You get

1182
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 3: your head around and he goes up over top of

1183
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 3: you and makes a ridiculous catch for the defining I

1184
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 3: guess the ending nailing the Coffin touchdown. But Corey Black

1185
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 3: has played how many snaps did he play today? Those

1186
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 3: his first snaps he's played in the NFL in his career.

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00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 2: Absolutely right, all right, Please stick with us if you're

1188
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 2: listening on our local flagship station, WFAN.

1189
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: But it is time to say goodbye to the affiliates

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Speaker 1: across our radio network. Our next broadcast will be next Sunday.

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00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: It's a one pm kickoff.

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00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 2: That means a noon a pre game all across our

1193
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 2: radio network. It is the Giants hosting that San Francisco

1194
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers. The Niners loss today they fell the

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Speaker 2: five and three eight twenty six to fifteen loss to

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Speaker 2: the Houston Texans. Will monitor brock Perdie status throughout the

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Speaker 2: week if you check out all our Giants content, Giants App,

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Speaker 2: Giants dot Com, Giants YouTube channel.

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Speaker 1: Big Week Kickoff Live is our daily show every day

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Speaker 1: at twelve thirty. We'll track all of that in preview.

1201
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: Giants and forty nine Ers coming away next Sunday again.

1202
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 2: Pregame on our network is at noon for Tiki Barber

1203
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 2: for Bopop, Carl Banks, Howard Cross, Paul Detino, I am

1204
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: John Schmalk, our entire crew, excellent job. Today the Giants

1205
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 2: again fall to the Philadelphia Eles in this game thirty

1206
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: eight to twenty. We'll see you next week, everybody, but

1207
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 2: not if you are on our local flagship station WFAA.

1208
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 2: In that case, stick with us, taking aby with you

1209
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 2: for another fifty minutes or so, taking your calls at

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00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 2: eight eight eight eight oh eight one zero one nine

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Speaker 2: eight eight eight eight oh eight one zero one nine.

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Speaker 1: We'll have some more sound from the locko. We have

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Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence, we have one Del Robinson, we.

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00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 2: Have Jermaine and Luminar with who from all of them

1215
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 2: will continue to break this one down with you right

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00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 2: here on the fan.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 7: This is Dexon one is the second and you're listening

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Speaker 7: to Giants Football underfan w f A n and w

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Speaker 7: f A n FM, New York, York Stakes.

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00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 6: Snap drops back to throw under pressure from Carter and

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00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:20,959
Speaker 6: then hit behind.

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00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: The line and dropped.

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00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 4: The team sacked there.

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00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean Carter, Thibodeau and burn and Lawrence got

1226
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 6: I don't even know who gets credit for that.

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00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 4: All four youths of Linemon were there.

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00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 6: Play fake hurts back to grow, bounces to his life,

1229
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 6: bounces to his lap, bounces back some more, and Brian

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00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 6: Burns gets sacked number ten, all the way back at

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Speaker 6: the thirty five yard line.

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Speaker 2: That first sack, by the way, was split between Dexter

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00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 2: Lawrence and Darius Alexander, also a sacks for Rakeem Nuniaz

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00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: Road chest Ryan Burns had another sack and then Bobbio

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00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 2: character had a sack in this game for you, the

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00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 2: Giants four on the ball game, John Schmolty Barber back

1237
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 2: with you on Giants extra point.

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00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: Giants fall to the Eagles thirty eight to twenty.

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00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 3: Let's want to take one moment because earlier today, the

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Speaker 3: New York Jets announced the passing of They're All Pro,

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00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 3: two time All Pro, seven time Pro Bowl Center Ring

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00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 3: of Honor member Nick Mangold, and our thoughts and prayers

1243
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 3: go out to the Mangold family, the Jets family as well.

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00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 3: And in a fitting fashion after a horrendous start to

1245
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 3: this season, the Jets scored thirty nine points and won

1246
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 3: today against the Cincinnati Bengals, and I think it's appropriate

1247
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 3: to just tip a cap to the Jets for honoring

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00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 3: and by winning one of their great great players and

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00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 3: rest in peace, Nick Mangold. He was a great man

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00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 3: in the community and obviously a fantastic.

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00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: Jet in his long career there and being an offensive lineman.

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00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: Whoever, Nick Mangoles is right now watching that game to

1253
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 2: see his team rush for two hundred and fifty four

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00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: yards definitely made him small. Our thoughts in prayers to

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Speaker 2: the Jets family, his family tragically at the age of.

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Speaker 1: Forty one, losing Nick Mangold way way too. So absolutely tragic.

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00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 2: All right, let's go back down into the locker room

1258
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 2: after the game, Dexter Lawrence had a chance to address

1259
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 2: the media.

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Speaker 7: Game and at least penalized team for sure because it

1261
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 7: gives it a second win.

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Speaker 30: You know, so you don't want to get on apologies

1263
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 30: to each good question, but such.

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Speaker 7: I mean, we got a lot of a lot of

1265
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 7: guys that lead on this team, and my prayers go

1266
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 7: and I hope you have whatever it is, you know,

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00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 7: it goes love, but you step up.

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Speaker 2: The guys that.

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Speaker 13: After together get.

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Speaker 27: No.

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Speaker 7: I want to say that they just came out and

1272
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 7: played and we didn't make enough plays and.

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00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 4: Scored and they was on top.

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Speaker 22: Des How frustrating is it for guys you probably themselves

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01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 22: on top of the run?

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Speaker 10: How propreating is it when the team does kind of

1277
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 10: what they did, just getting this chunk yard plays so often?

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01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just really frustrating. Yeah, we just got you better.

1279
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 4: While he as a role in this, you.

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Speaker 7: Know, as a hunit man, you're taking if it's not

1281
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 7: just the front guys who stuff is runners, everybody the

1282
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 7: electric boat who stuff to run And we didn't.

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Speaker 4: Get the job.

1284
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: Every challenge.

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01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 27: Seminas how much defferene.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's it's cool to flush, you know, the

1287
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 7: flush a loss and you got a game the next week,

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01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 7: So I mean, this is part of the business.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's about week.

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01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 7: I mean, you still practice on the bout week, so

1291
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 7: you ain't really too much at taking care of anything.

1292
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 7: But it's it's part of the game.

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01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 12: You guys have been resilient. You've taken some punches this year.

1294
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 4: You've been resilient.

1295
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 26: Is there a limit to teams resiliency or do you

1296
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 26: walk in there on you know, this week and say,

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01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 26: you know what, here we go.

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Speaker 12: No, we just gotta win in the next week, you know.

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Speaker 2: And we talked ticky about the importance of this defense

1300
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 2: bouncing back after such a poor fourth quarter performance last week.

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01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 2: Fair to say they did not bounce back from that performance.

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Speaker 2: We talked about the start of the post game for

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01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 2: the folks that weren't with us. When you watched it,

1304
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 2: you saw this game get broken down. The Eagles overall

1305
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 2: in this game at four hundred and twenty seven yards

1306
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 2: of offense, but worse than that, the two hundred and

1307
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 2: seventy six yards in the ground eight point four yards

1308
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,919
Speaker 2: per carry. And this was not like quarterback runs either.

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01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 2: This was running back runs, breaking tackles, mistackles. Also plays

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01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 2: where they were just gaping holes as well, where there

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01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 2: was a lot of room for them to operate and

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01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 2: make big plays down the field. We mentioned three rushes

1313
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 2: of twenty five yards or more in this game. What

1314
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 2: did you see on this defense?

1315
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: What was the problem? Then we'll get to the plaint Well,

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 3: A lot of it was just the angles to getting

1318
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 3: to the holes the phills, And we mentioned this earlier

1319
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 3: on the post game. There were a ton of plays

1320
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 3: where you'd see two guys in the same position and

1321
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 3: then they're chasing.

1322
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: Well, neither one of them has contained and so when that.

1323
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 3: You just you create the leverage for the running back

1324
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 3: to find space on the corners and give the Eagles credit.

1325
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 3: I think it was part of their game plan to

1326
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 3: get to the edges. We kind of talked in the

1327
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 3: pregame about how the way to attack the Eagles because

1328
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 3: of those two big guys and in the middle of

1329
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 3: their defense Jalen Carter who was back and Jordan Davis,

1330
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 3: was to run to the edges. Well, the Eagles did

1331
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 3: the exact same thing to the Giants just a lot

1332
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 3: more effectively and for a lot more explosive plays. The

1333
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 3: thing that started to show its head late in this game,

1334
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 3: and this is I hate to see this. It felt

1335
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 3: like an effort issue. There was Tank Bisbee, who also

1336
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 3: ran for over one hundred yards one hundred and four

1337
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 3: on nine carries, eleven point six yards per carry. He

1338
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 3: was just breaking and running through tackles. And that effort

1339
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 3: is that lack of effort is something that is just

1340
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 3: it's not acceptable. You can't allow that to exist within

1341
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 3: your defensive room. And I'm sure this week when they

1342
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 3: go back and watch this tape, that's what's going to

1343
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 3: be emphasized.

1344
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: You got to show the effort. It cost you nothing

1345
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: and it takes zero kind of talent.

1346
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 4: It just had.

1347
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: You just have to put the effort in.

1348
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1349
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 2: I just want to kind of dig in on that

1350
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 2: effort word because I think that could be a loaded

1351
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 2: ward depending on how fans think about it. Right, this

1352
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 2: wasn't guys not trying, no loafing. It was just the

1353
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 2: Eagles being more physical than the Giants and breaking time.

1354
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 30: One.

1355
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 3: It is when you get into a position to make

1356
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 3: a tackle, you wrap up and if you you're not

1357
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 3: strong enough hold on for dear life, so someone could

1358
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 3: come in and be and be your calfla. Yeah, it

1359
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 3: was too many shedding of defenders, especially once you got

1360
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 3: to that second and really the third level.

1361
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: A lot of that because those guys just haven't played

1362
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: a lot.

1363
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 3: Deontay Banks and obviously Corey Black who was forced into

1364
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 3: a lot of duty after not having seen the field

1365
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 3: at all in his rookie campaign.

1366
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that did catch up to the

1367
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 2: injuries in the secondary when Cordo Flott went out at

1368
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 2: the end of the second quarter on injury.

1369
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 3: On top of Holland being out and Paulson adbo it's

1370
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 3: just too much, just not deep enough.

1371
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: And Ark Green by the way, with the hamstring to

1372
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: another defensive back, right, It's just it was insult to injury. Literally.

1373
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the calls.

1374
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 2: Eight eight ITA eight one zero one nine eight eight

1375
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 2: eight ita eate one zero one nine. I'll take the

1376
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 2: calls and the order they came in, folks, Let's do it.

1377
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 2: Let's go to Justin and Dobbs Ferry. He will lead

1378
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 2: us off today. Justin, what's up, Hey, Justin?

1379
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 27: Hey, what's going on?

1380
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 8: Guys.

1381
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 22: Brutal loss. But the NFL is going to be consistent.

1382
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 22: You know, they call in New York, calls in for

1383
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 22: Golf's touchdown, they bring it back. I mean that hurts.

1384
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 22: That was a fumble. Everybody sees it. He's moving forward,

1385
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 22: he he's not down. And then that changed the whole

1386
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 22: trajectory of the game, that fumble. Not being able to

1387
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 22: call that in and look at that, look.

1388
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 2: That over, you know the problem Justin, I will say this,

1389
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 2: The issue with that is that there is a rule

1390
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 2: in the rule book that you cannot adjust. If it's

1391
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 2: called Ford progress, it cannot be reviewed. The problem is

1392
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 2: that Ford progressed way too.

1393
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: Early in the play. Yeah, the correct Yeah, they blowing

1394
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: that whistle there correct, Yeah, you can't blow.

1395
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1396
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 22: They usually here on this side of like letting the

1397
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 22: go with you know, when there's like a fumble or

1398
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 22: something like that, like they gotta let that play goes.

1399
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 22: What progress movement was stopped?

1400
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: There was movies, No, it wasn't. It wasn't stopped, right.

1401
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 3: I think, I think what will happen Justin, and I

1402
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 3: appreciate they preach it coache. I think what will happen

1403
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 3: if they got they have to define how to officiate

1404
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 3: the touchbuss. They have to They can't allow this game

1405
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 3: by game inconsistency of officiating the touch push to continue.

1406
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 3: Otherwise you just banned the play. But I think what

1407
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 3: will happen is that when a situation like that, you

1408
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 3: have to rule it a fumble because every turnover will

1409
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 3: get reviewed and then if possession, if forward progress is stopped,

1410
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 3: then maybe it gets overturned. But it's one of those

1411
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 3: if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck,

1412
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 3: it's a damn duck. That looked like a fumble and

1413
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 3: it should have been counted as a fumble.

1414
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 2: And my problem Tiki too, is that a lot of

1415
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 2: times in those touch pushes it is actually really hard

1416
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 2: to officiate.

1417
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: He's in the middle of a pile. You can't see anything.

1418
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 1: The two line judges are coming up and you can't

1419
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 1: see it. We saw that as clear in fast motion

1420
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: on the first play.

1421
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 3: It was clear as day Dalen Hurts was still moving forward,

1422
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 3: his body was still moving forward, and.

1423
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 1: He reached the ball out and it was taken immediately.

1424
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 3: Away by Caveon Thibodeau. That that in any other situation,

1425
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 3: if that's in the middle of the field. Uh and

1426
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 3: A and a defender is bringing down a runner and

1427
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 3: he takes the ball away. It's a turnover. Correct, So

1428
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 3: how is that not also a turnover? It doesn't make

1429
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 3: any sense.

1430
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,919
Speaker 2: Especially when on the tush push they always allow after

1431
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 2: hurts is and it happens often is stopped on the

1432
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 2: initial surge, they allow that second surge to come in

1433
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 2: and push them. Yeah, so you have to if you're

1434
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 2: going to give the offense the opportunity to have the

1435
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 2: second surgeers.

1436
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm okay with that's fine.

1437
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 2: Of course you have to give the defense the opportunity

1438
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 2: to make a play on the second surge.

1439
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: You can't have it both ways.

1440
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 4: I agreed.

1441
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 3: And that's and that's what the Eagles have been getting

1442
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 3: away with. And again it's not their fault. No, they're

1443
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 3: not breaking any rules. This is this is an interpretation issue,

1444
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 3: and the referees are absolutely horrendous at interpreting the toush.

1445
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 2: And look, maybe in the end the determination is it's

1446
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 2: not the officials fault and it's just a play that's

1447
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 2: too hard to officiate and the judgment calls involved in

1448
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 2: it are too tough and that's something the competition committee.

1449
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 3: Off to take a one, especially because they false start

1450
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 3: on almost every single one.

1451
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: Let's go to NOAs in Pennsylvania, Nas, what's going on?

1452
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: What's up? Nos?

1453
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 4: It was up?

1454
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 31: Guys, appreciate the call. First off, I just want I

1455
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 31: sat a couple of points, but first off, just want

1456
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 31: to spend out also my thoughts and prayers for the

1457
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 31: Mangolds family, you know, gone too soon and tragic, tragic

1458
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 31: story to start off the day.

1459
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 1: Absolutely point.

1460
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 31: Yeah, the first point I have here is you know,

1461
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 31: obviously this game is a frustrating game and you're just

1462
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 31: playing a team that's on another level. But this is

1463
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 31: the this is the loss that makes the loss against

1464
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 31: Dallas and the loss against Denver that much detrimental to

1465
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 31: this team. And that's how it hurts this team, you know,

1466
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 31: in the long, bigger picture in this season, and I

1467
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 31: think you know, if they would have held on and

1468
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 31: won those games, you know, we're looking at this game, Okay, Eagles,

1469
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 31: you would take a split. If I saw to you

1470
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 31: in April and we saw the schedule come out, and

1471
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 31: I told you that the Giants were gonna split with

1472
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 31: the Eagles, we would take that, and especially with how

1473
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 31: the schedules laid out and all that stuff.

1474
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's a good point.

1475
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 30: Now.

1476
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 3: It's because because if you win those some if you

1477
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 3: win those other close games, the ones that you gave away.

1478
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 3: Forget the Dallas game because that was the that was

1479
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:28,560
Speaker 3: the Russell Wilson era. But if you just win the

1480
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 3: Saints and you win the Denver game last week, you're

1481
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:34,719
Speaker 3: not You don't feel so bad losing on the road

1482
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 3: to the defending Super Bowl champions. And again, the game sucked.

1483
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 3: It was hard to watch because the defense could not

1484
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 3: get off the field.

1485
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: They had no chance.

1486
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 3: It felt like to slow down this this Eagles offense

1487
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 3: or definitely not stop them.

1488
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: And it happens.

1489
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 3: You lose games badly sometimes, but it's all the other

1490
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 3: close losses that come back and they bite you and

1491
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 3: make you feel increasingly not good about where the team

1492
01:08:59,800 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 3: is going.

1493
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 8: Now.

1494
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 2: I appreciate the call man, And this was easily, Tiki,

1495
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 2: the most lopsided loss that we've seen this year. The

1496
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 2: first week he gets Washington wasn't good. Yeah, but it

1497
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 2: wasn't utter domination.

1498
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 1: No.

1499
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 3: I mean, look, they got outplayed, and a lot of

1500
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:17,919
Speaker 3: it was simply because of how aggressive the Commander's defense

1501
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 3: was and it stimied everything that the Giants were trying

1502
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:24,600
Speaker 3: to do. But since then they've been competitive, like the

1503
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 3: games has been competitive, and this one was the first

1504
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 3: one in a while where it didn't feel that way.

1505
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 2: And you know, Mark Willoses and I on our Big

1506
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 2: Book Kickoff live show on Saturday on WFN that we

1507
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 2: have every Saturday morning at seven am, I made the

1508
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 2: point to Moose that two weeks ago was the first time,

1509
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 2: maybe since the two thousand and eightish era, where you

1510
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 2: walked out of a Giants Eagles game and you said

1511
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,560
Speaker 2: the Giants with a better team in the trenches on

1512
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 2: both sides of the ball they were.

1513
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 1: That was not the case.

1514
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 3: No, the Eagles offensive line dominated up front, and you

1515
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 3: give them credit because they did things differently this week

1516
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 3: than they did in Game one. We ran a lot

1517
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 3: more of the pullers and the and and get into

1518
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 3: the edges, but the Giants in kind didn't do nearly

1519
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 3: as much. Part of that is because of camp Scataboo's injury.

1520
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 3: It's forcing him to play a different kind of game

1521
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 3: with Tyrone Tracy. But really we you know, we talked

1522
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 3: a little bit about Jackson Dart. He He's got to

1523
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 3: be better. He said this in his post in his

1524
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 3: post game uh presser, He's got to be better. He

1525
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 3: can't hold the ball for as long as he held

1526
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 3: it and give up those many sacks. He's got to

1527
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 3: find ways to get positive yardage even when plays aren't

1528
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 3: really there for him on his first or even second reads.

1529
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 1: And I will say this, it is okay Jackson Dart

1530
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 1: to throw the ball away. Yeah, I know, like that's

1531
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: it's it's okay. Yeah, it's hard.

1532
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 3: It's it's hard to convince a young player to do

1533
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 3: that because you think you you can always make it right.

1534
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 1: The problem is a lot of times you can't.

1535
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 2: And I feel like the last couple of weeks Tea

1536
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 2: he As, we've seen some of the running opportunities and

1537
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 2: scrambling opportunities.

1538
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:58,719
Speaker 1: Drive up dry up. We've seen some of these issues

1539
01:10:58,720 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: with holding the ball and taking.

1540
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 3: Those right and the sacks were a big part of this,

1541
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 3: of this, of this loss today, for especially after they

1542
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 3: got down, because you're forced into an obvious passing situation

1543
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 3: a lot of the game and the Eagles just taken

1544
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 3: complete advantage of you.

1545
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 1: Quick time out, We'll come back, take more of your calls.

1546
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 2: We hear from Jermaine Luminar in the locker room that

1547
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 2: a whole lot more Giants again fall to the Eagles

1548
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 2: in this game thirty eight to twenty.

1549
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 1: We'll be right back.

1550
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 19: This is Theo Johnson and you're listening to Giants Football

1551
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:29,559
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1552
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:30,360
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1553
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,519
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1554
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:35,960
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1555
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1557
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 2: game highlights, interviews, TV shows, and more exclusive video with

1558
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 2: content with Giants TV. Jermaine Luminar Giants Right Tackle, spoke

1559
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 2: to the media in the locker room match the game.

1560
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 2: Let's listen in Wedy Dark show you agatting back up

1561
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 2: after all those big hits, and.

1562
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 19: The Dark is who we've known. He's been in the

1563
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 19: entire season, you know, really less tough, no fear and

1564
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 19: just saw us to win. When you see him in

1565
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 19: his eyes and there's where they wants to win the game,

1566
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 19: and he's gonna give you everything he has and he's

1567
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 19: gonna make sure when he walks up for it, there's

1568
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 19: nothing left in the town. Uh, you know, I just

1569
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 19: I love the quarterback game. I loved pointing with a

1570
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 19: guy like that. How you just tell us about yah physically? Yeah,

1571
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 19: oh I'm about that. That's off at the barness.

1572
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 1: You know.

1573
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 19: I feel like I've been pretty open with my goals

1574
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 19: and stuff this eason. So I'm just gonna find a

1575
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 19: way to fight these things.

1576
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 4: Thank you. You mean god.

1577
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 30: He was shaken, laid about schedule. Obviously, any time a

1578
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 30: teammate who's down, no matter what it is, it's it's

1579
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 30: a real hard thing to digest. What did you guys

1580
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 30: think at the moment when he was down on the field,

1581
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 30: did you know what was serious?

1582
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 19: So I looked over and I didn't see him down,

1583
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 19: and well, I look, I was looking around and said

1584
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:47,560
Speaker 19: up on the west as I saw him down, and

1585
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 19: I saw the you know, the injury and thus out.

1586
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 19: I've never seen anything like that before, So I don't

1587
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 19: know how serious it is. I'm sh I know it's

1588
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 19: really serious, Like I don't know the significant office. So

1589
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 19: hopefully it's one of those things where it's like a

1590
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 19: clean breakers something that is a lot easier to recover from.

1591
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 19: You know, Scot's a really tough dude, and you know

1592
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 19: mentally it's one of the toughest guys I've been around.

1593
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 19: So if anyone can come back from injury like that

1594
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 19: and be even better or something.

1595
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 30: As a guy who's been around this league for a while,

1596
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 30: you've seen a lot of different things when there is

1597
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 30: a serious injury on the field. Is there something you

1598
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 30: can say to your teammates on the bench to help

1599
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 30: make sure that they're digesting it correctly.

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01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:27,600
Speaker 19: Yeah, I feel like it's a better and you just

1601
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 19: have to be able to bring guys back up, cause

1602
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 19: things like that can be really demoralizing and can really

1603
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 19: knock you down where you are and where you need

1604
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 19: to be enoble to go out there and play at

1605
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 19: your best. So for me and just for the other

1606
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 19: vest where you just have to do a better job.

1607
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 4: Of bringing guys up.

1608
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 19: And you know, just came on the emotions on the

1609
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 19: sidelines because or when I play like that goes down

1610
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,719
Speaker 19: with that type of injury, it can really do damage

1611
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 19: to a team and a team psych at psych So

1612
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 19: you know, yeah, sorry, like I said, I'm just praying

1613
01:13:58,560 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 19: for Scan.

1614
01:13:58,920 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 12: Hopefully you recovers quickly.

1615
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 2: That's Jermaine and Luminor after the game Antiki and this

1616
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 2: is early stuff by it by Pro Football Focus here

1617
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 2: they had him for just one pressure allowed all game,

1618
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 2: and I think from watching it that fit. We didn't

1619
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 2: see much pressure off of that side. No, I thought

1620
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 2: Andrew Thomas actually probably had his roughest game since he's

1621
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 2: came back.

1622
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 1: He did.

1623
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 2: He allowed three pressures in this game, but again Jackson

1624
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 2: Dart was holding the ball a long time as well.

1625
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 2: Schmidsen Runyon allowed a couple of pressures each again according

1626
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 2: to the order early grading. But again, offensive line not

1627
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 2: one of their best performances in this game. But again

1628
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 2: it wasn't like they didn't give the Giants offense a

1629
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 2: chance to function.

1630
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: No, they you know they didn't.

1631
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 3: But again, when Jackson Dart's holding the ball that long,

1632
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 3: you're gonna give up pressures. I think there was only

1633
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 3: one play that I recognized in real time that Andrew

1634
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 3: Thomas was kind of fooled. Tried to help down on

1635
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 3: the three technique and the edge came up the field

1636
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 3: really quickly.

1637
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 1: He ended up pushing him past Jackson Dart.

1638
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 3: But the collapsing defensive end I think actually might have

1639
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 3: been the defensive end from the other side, or maybe

1640
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 3: the d tackle from the other side fell into Jackson

1641
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 3: Dart and resulted in a sack. So, look, the Eagles

1642
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 3: had a good plan for Jackson Dart and you know

1643
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 3: what that is, play zone, make him think twice about

1644
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 3: letting the ball go quickly and then hopefully you went

1645
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 3: up front and get pressure. And so I think that, uh,

1646
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 3: you know, the offensive line, I've give him. I'd give

1647
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:18,600
Speaker 3: him a B minus.

1648
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 4: In this game.

1649
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 1: They weren't They weren't great, but they also weren't horrible. Agreed.

1650
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 2: All right, Let's go back to the phones at eight

1651
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 2: eight eight eight eight one zero one nine and go

1652
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 2: to our buddy Harvey and Dix Saials.

1653
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 1: Harvey, Harvey, what's up, man?

1654
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 21: How are you all? I'll try to do it as

1655
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 21: it says, as I can. I didn't have to rip

1656
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 21: up my notes this time, but I have you know,

1657
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 21: you talk. You know, I learned from you guys. You

1658
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 21: know that, and you and John Taking and John and

1659
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 21: everybody there. So but anyway, when you said they I

1660
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 21: think they said you said three point three point six

1661
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 21: seconds they had time to throw right, yes, which is

1662
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 21: a long time Okay, he had a long time, But how.

1663
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 8: Much is that?

1664
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 21: And I'll ask you you can evaluate this me is

1665
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 21: separation by the receivers. I know neighbors a lot of

1666
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 21: great separation. How much is is he adjusting to the

1667
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 21: separation of his receiver because they don't think they have

1668
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 21: a lot of it.

1669
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure some of it.

1670
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 2: Harvey tick and I can't see the receivers on the

1671
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:14,600
Speaker 2: TV copy we have. We have to watch that in

1672
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 2: the morning know for sure how whether or not guys

1673
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 2: are open. But based on what Tom Brady was saying

1674
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,679
Speaker 2: during the broadcast, and will have to trust his eyes,

1675
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 2: he kind of knows something about this, right. He didn't

1676
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 2: seem to indicate that there were a bunch of guys

1677
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 2: running open down there.

1678
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the issue for Jackson Dart

1679
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 1: was that he didn't have a second place to go.

1680
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 3: So the Eagles take away read one and then it's

1681
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 3: all right, where's the second, Where's where's red two?

1682
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 1: And he was trying to go through it.

1683
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 3: But I think he also started to put his head down,

1684
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 3: started to look at the pass rush coming at him,

1685
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 3: and it just completely took him. Now, you definitely can't

1686
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:48,759
Speaker 3: find your number two when your eyes aren't downfield.

1687
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 21: And I also John, I talked about the push social

1688
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 21: last year and I'm talking about it this year. You know,

1689
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 21: I feel that it's a penalty and injury weait't to happen, Yeah,

1690
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 21: and impossible to situate, toitiate. And I believe it's a

1691
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 21: former quarterback sneak, so I I think it should be banned.

1692
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 21: I think that, you know, I love fallbacks who can

1693
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,680
Speaker 21: run and plock, and especially when you know, I call

1694
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 21: it the blue zone, especially when you're down in the

1695
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 21: last five yards and and the other thing. I'll bring

1696
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 21: it up there and if you following. For example, there

1697
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 21: are a lot of complaints about his uh about the players,

1698
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 21: especially Burns had an outpost and you know, I don't

1699
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 21: think he's aggressive enough. I don't you know, when does

1700
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 21: it when does the defense discipline? According to you, Tigi.

1701
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you broke up a little bit there, But

1702
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 3: I appreciate your calling for me. I think that you know,

1703
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 3: what you're trying to ask is when does it fall

1704
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 3: on the coordinator and when does it fall on on

1705
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 3: the player As far as discipline and the effort, the

1706
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 3: you know, extra effort to try to make these plays.

1707
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 3: It's it's a fine line because some of that is coached.

1708
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 3: I think a lot of it comes down to you

1709
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 3: know how well uh positioned you are to, for instance,

1710
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 3: make a tackle, because if you're if you're out of position.

1711
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 1: You don't you're not you're not you're not in the

1712
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 1: right spot.

1713
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden, you're you're scrambling to get

1714
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,600
Speaker 3: yourself back to where you're supposed to be. And some

1715
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 3: of that is coaching, but to me, a lot of

1716
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 3: it is just execution. But in this game, it's it's

1717
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 3: almost impossible to defend the defensive play calling.

1718
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have flipped on the toush push last year.

1719
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 2: I got into this argument with Pulta Tito many times.

1720
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 2: He won the band of last year, and my point was, look,

1721
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 2: one team runs it better than everybody else. Yeah, it's

1722
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 2: not fair to punish them for that, right. But we've

1723
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 2: seen too many incidents this year, and I don't think

1724
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 2: it's a player safety thing. I think it's more of

1725
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 2: a you can't find you you don't see the false starts.

1726
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 2: You've had two issues now with forward progress.

1727
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 1: Over the course of these games.

1728
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 2: It's always hard to spot the ball, to see where

1729
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 2: it is in the middle of that pile. It's just

1730
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 2: a very difficult play to officiate. And if you can't

1731
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 2: figure that part out of it, I don't think you

1732
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 2: can have it in the.

1733
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 3: Game, especially if there are false starts as we see

1734
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 3: almost every single time, or forward progress issues as we

1735
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 3: saw in this game after what we thought.

1736
01:18:59,120 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 1: Was a fumble.

1737
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, all right, let's go back to the phones

1738
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 2: at eighty eight eight oh eight, one zero one nine

1739
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 2: and say what's up to Robbie and Lennox.

1740
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 1: Robbie're up next?

1741
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 27: Palton goes down the film. I want to just put

1742
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 27: them a little there and make sure slain. We don't

1743
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 27: want to brother, I mean, this is like, it's what's

1744
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 27: going on? Is it the NFL?

1745
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 8: No, guys.

1746
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 27: First of all, I mean it's like the cost. First

1747
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 27: of all, I want to say, my heart goes out

1748
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 27: to the Mangol family. I was very sad here, a

1749
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 27: wonderful player and the Jets. Then I'm glad they just

1750
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 27: won for Coach Glenn today. You know, the Jets are

1751
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 27: part of my family. MoMA Giants fan all the years

1752
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:39,640
Speaker 27: got me in the Jets and hanging out with the

1753
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 27: ex jests and the joke Lecko was my favorite guy

1754
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 27: of all time in the Tecto. Anyway, about this game,

1755
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 27: Ticky mentioned some things at halftime, so I'm not going

1756
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 27: to recapitulate this, okay, but you said a lot of

1757
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 27: things that made sense about the whole push push and everything.

1758
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,679
Speaker 27: So it's ridiculous. I mean, that was a fubble. Okay,

1759
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 27: it doesn't make any sense. And I'd like to see

1760
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 27: the the NFL do what the NHL does and have.

1761
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 27: But don't they have like a room where they look

1762
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 27: at the play. I mean, everybody's looking at that play.

1763
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 27: We all know what's the fumbled, So why can't guys

1764
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 27: on the field call it? Yes, first, some positives Jackson Dark,

1765
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 27: you know, yes, does he hang on to the ball

1766
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 27: too much? Yes? But does he What I loved about

1767
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 27: him and what I loved about him, and that's why

1768
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 27: one of the Giants draft because I remember selling my

1769
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 27: go up from films about him is his ability to

1770
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 27: escape through rush is a bone to feel the pressure

1771
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 27: to step up to his toughness. We have our quarterback, guys,

1772
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 27: I really believe that the question is do we have

1773
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:33,839
Speaker 27: our coach? I think today can't really blame the coaching,

1774
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 27: it's execution. Okay, let's let's take that way, right, Let's

1775
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 27: take execution like guys catching the ball have but deal

1776
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 27: catching the ball? Catching the ball. This is a different game,

1777
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 27: so it's positives and negatives. But anyway, Tiki, I wanted

1778
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:48,759
Speaker 27: to ask you, the biggest problem for me is Shane

1779
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 27: Bowen is I know it's talent out there in injuries,

1780
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,560
Speaker 27: but is it scheme? You just you just cart We

1781
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 27: just mentioned it. And I love har from Vicks. He's

1782
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 27: one of my favorite of all time guys. And the

1783
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 27: question is is it scheme? Is it talent?

1784
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1785
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 3: I think part of it is just putting guys in

1786
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 3: position to make the right plays and and and drilling

1787
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 3: like the role accountability and the gap integrity and all

1788
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 3: those things that we didn't see consistently, and this game

1789
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 3: you just felt like there was there was too many

1790
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 3: missed assignments which then resulted in in big plays for

1791
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Eagles, and you know, as the game went on,

1792
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 3: they just they wanted it more. Finishing is the biggest part.

1793
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 3: What we saw what we didn't see last week with

1794
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 3: the New York Giants when they had that big eighteen

1795
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,640
Speaker 3: point lead in the fourth quarter was this like this

1796
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 3: crushing will to win the game.

1797
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 1: And and the Eagles have that, clearly, they have it.

1798
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 1: They're they're Super.

1799
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 3: Bowl champions, defending champions, and they know how to finish games.

1800
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 3: The Giants a week ago didn't finish the game. Uh,

1801
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 3: the Denver Broncos found a way to fight back. The

1802
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 3: Giants didn't have that this week against the Eagles. The

1803
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 3: Eagles found a way to finish the game and do

1804
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 3: it in a defining, dominant way. And it's you're almost

1805
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,599
Speaker 3: jealous of it, but we know that the Giants aren't

1806
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 3: quite there yet. They still have to figure out how.

1807
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 1: To win games.

1808
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll put the two things that Robbie talked about. One,

1809
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,600
Speaker 2: when you give up two hundred seventy five yards on

1810
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 2: the ground or too eighty whatever it was, that's everybody.

1811
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 2: There is no one that escapes blame on that. That

1812
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 2: as players, that is everybody that's involved in that. Everyone

1813
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:26,759
Speaker 2: takes blame on that one. In terms of the dart stuff,

1814
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 2: because I think this is interesting. We've looked at so

1815
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 2: many quarterbacks succeed and I think we have a pretty

1816
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 2: good feel for how quarterbacks.

1817
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 1: Succeed in the National Football League.

1818
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 2: The out of structure stuff is great, and it's essential

1819
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 2: for you to go from being a good quarterback to

1820
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 2: a great quarterback, but.

1821
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,680
Speaker 1: That can't be the basis of what you do. Eventually,

1822
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 1: you need to be a quarterback that fit.

1823
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 2: And look, no one's better quickly reading a defense and

1824
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 2: getting the ball out than Patrick Maholmes.

1825
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 1: Right, that's his real superpower. Now, when really good.

1826
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 2: Defenses take that stuff away, what makes him the best

1827
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,719
Speaker 2: quarterback on the plat then he does the extra stuff

1828
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 2: on top of that.

1829
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,560
Speaker 1: So Dart's good like he is the cherry and the

1830
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 1: whipped cream.

1831
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 2: Right, he just hasn't made the ice cream yet, right,

1832
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 2: He still needs to make the ice cream a little bit.

1833
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 2: He needs to get better at getting plays and balls

1834
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:13,719
Speaker 2: out on time against defenses.

1835
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 1: And if you can figure that out, and by the way,

1836
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 1: this is what rookie quarterbacks usually do have trouble with.

1837
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 1: So if you can figure that out, he has all

1838
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 1: the extra topics. He's ready to go, right, he just has.

1839
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 3: To make the ice Well, we saw it on that

1840
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 3: one conversion to Theo Johnson where he he was scrambling

1841
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 3: it was off schedule and he found a way to

1842
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,600
Speaker 3: just loft it up over the defense that kind of

1843
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 3: stuff and get it to THEO Johnson for a first down.

1844
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 1: How about the.

1845
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,719
Speaker 2: Rolling left, getting his body back, turning around, hitting Wandell

1846
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 2: on the floor.

1847
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 3: That's a hard throw when you're going left because it

1848
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:44,799
Speaker 3: tends to sail left on you and go out of bounds.

1849
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 3: He flipped his hips perfectly and drilled it right where

1850
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 3: it needed to be for a big game. And so

1851
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 3: it's more and more of that earlier and by the

1852
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 3: way this evolved for him throughout the in the game

1853
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 3: correct because early in the game he wasn't doing those things.

1854
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:01,679
Speaker 3: He was scrambling but in the pocket and just doing

1855
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 3: you know, twist and turns without gaining any advantage on

1856
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 3: the defense. Right as the game went on, you started

1857
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 3: to see him scrambling, but then he would gain an

1858
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 3: advantage by moving out of the pocket, eliminating the potential

1859
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 3: for a sack, and then getting his eyes back up

1860
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:18,640
Speaker 3: and downfield and making some of those throws. But so

1861
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:22,680
Speaker 3: much of that those scramble rules come down to how

1862
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 3: familiar you are with your wide receiver, how familiar is

1863
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 3: your receiving crew with you, so they know.

1864
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:28,800
Speaker 12: What to do.

1865
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 1: Once things go to crap right.

1866
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 2: And the essential part of this, folks, is that this

1867
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 2: is why it's so hard now for a rookie pocket

1868
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 2: passer to succeed early in his career, because quickly reading

1869
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 2: the defense, going through your progressions, all that sort of stuff,

1870
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 2: and making quick, good smart decisions is very hard.

1871
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 1: Yes, So it's why a lot of these more mobile.

1872
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 2: Quarterbacks are able to succeed earlier in their career, even

1873
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,640
Speaker 2: if the art of playing quarterback hasn't developed yet.

1874
01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 1: Look at Josh Allen's first couple of years, lamar Act

1875
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:00,840
Speaker 1: in his first.

1876
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:02,680
Speaker 2: Few years before we figured out the passing game, right,

1877
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:06,759
Speaker 2: These are guys that can survive on their instinctual ability

1878
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 2: to play quarterback, and then they learned how to become technicians.

1879
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 1: Dart now is to learn to become attent.

1880
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 3: And I think Bobby was right. He's talking about this

1881
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 3: is we have the quarterback. Of course, the Jackson Dart

1882
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 3: feels like he's the guy for the future and you're not. Man,

1883
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:22,599
Speaker 3: I wonder we're gonna have to wait one more year

1884
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 3: to see if he continues to develop.

1885
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 1: He's he's going to be that that player.

1886
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 3: Now it's about getting the right team around him, the

1887
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 3: right you know, maybe even coaching staff around him and

1888
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 3: finding ways to win in those those little moments that

1889
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 3: make the biggest differences in games.

1890
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 1: That's what he still needs to work on.

1891
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 2: Rab Bakiana reporting that U scam Campskataboo that suffer a

1892
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 2: discocated ankle in today's game in Philadelphia, scheduled to undergo

1893
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:50,440
Speaker 2: surgery tonight at a local hospital in Philadelphia.

1894
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 1: Well that's good.

1895
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 3: I mean, so you get it, you get it taken

1896
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:54,720
Speaker 3: care of right away. And you know that was my

1897
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 3: initial gut thought was that it was a dislocated ankle.

1898
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,679
Speaker 3: I know some people were saying it fraction or they're

1899
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 3: probably there may be some sort of fraction.

1900
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 1: There's surgery. I mean, doesn't it doesn't. Doesn't that mean

1901
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 1: there's a fraction.

1902
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 3: Or no, The surgery is probably for the ligaments. Oh

1903
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:11,719
Speaker 3: you think so okay, you know, I think the soft

1904
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 3: tissue around it. But you you they're likely as a

1905
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:18,720
Speaker 3: fraction in one of the joints. So either way, he's

1906
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:21,640
Speaker 3: out for the season. And it's a devastating loss to

1907
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 3: this offense because of how not only is.

1908
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 1: He a really great, good player in.

1909
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 3: The making, he's he's the energy for this team and

1910
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:31,600
Speaker 3: you see it, and now they got to find a

1911
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:33,640
Speaker 3: way to replace that exactly right.

1912
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 2: All right, let's take another quick time out. We'll come

1913
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 2: back here from Wando Robinson. Finish things off on the

1914
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 2: on the phones. He can with you another fifteen minutes

1915
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:43,759
Speaker 2: or so right here on the fan until Sean Marash

1916
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 2: takes over shortly after six o'clock.

1917
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 1: Will be right back.

1918
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 32: This is Wonda Robinson and you're listening to Giants football

1919
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 32: on the fan WFA IN and WFAN FM, New York.

1920
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 2: Back here on Giants Extra point. Giants fall to the

1921
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 2: Eagles thirty eight to twenty one. The Robinson spoke to

1922
01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 2: the media after the game.

1923
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 32: Let's listen in obviously from the receivers that point me,

1924
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:02,679
Speaker 32: Sleigh LJ and the other guys.

1925
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 12: We gotta continue to just get better and get up

1926
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 12: in the Jackson, What did you think when you saw that?

1927
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:08,600
Speaker 17: A lot of guys kind of like, you know, you

1928
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:11,640
Speaker 17: can see everybody like turning away, and yeah, I mean, you.

1929
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 32: Know it was you know, it was pretty serious. And yeah, no,

1930
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:16,640
Speaker 32: I mean I I saw it and just kind of

1931
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 32: immediately kicking knee and just set a little prayer for him.

1932
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 32: But uh, yeah, I hope he's hope he's doing well

1933
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 32: at least with Buddy's So you can't.

1934
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 4: Cause it feel kind of like day johhood with mom.

1935
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 33: I mean it's different injured in the leape, but just

1936
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 33: feel like daje vioe, like man, another guy going down

1937
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 33: in a way you don't wanna see like that.

1938
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 32: Nah, No deja vu is Football's guys would go down

1939
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:36,600
Speaker 32: all the time, and uh, it's kind of part of it,

1940
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 32: but obviously you hate to see that, especially to the

1941
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 32: extent of that.

1942
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:41,640
Speaker 7: So well though you.

1943
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 12: Guys haven't played a lot of game time. If you

1944
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 12: have a set of game this is a kind of

1945
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 12: a game where.

1946
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 4: You can be pasted. Yeah, it's just a it was

1947
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 4: just a step back. You think it's scooping some way school.

1948
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,560
Speaker 32: Yeah, we didn't play the way we needed to. We

1949
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 32: didn't play with the intensity we needed to and in

1950
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 32: detail and things like that and the other get you

1951
01:27:58,080 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 32: beat in this league against a team like that.

1952
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 33: You're concerned that this is a two and six record

1953
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 33: now and there was so much positivism.

1954
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 1: Maybe you're five minutes ago.

1955
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 33: It's like you know last week or do you guys

1956
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 33: are rolling and winning, leading, and they come to this

1957
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 33: now that the reality.

1958
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 4: That you know, you guys are in a bad spot here.

1959
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:16,679
Speaker 32: Yeah, I mean, we know we're in a bad spot,

1960
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 32: and then we got to dig ourselves out if we

1961
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 32: want to get out of it.

1962
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 4: How do you think Jackson battle?

1963
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he's I mean, he's like a lot of hits, a.

1964
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 4: Lot of everything.

1965
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 32: I mean, that kid's tough, hates losing of the way

1966
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 32: he plays, especially just you know, he gets out and

1967
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 32: battles each and every time and doesn't quit, especially to

1968
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 32: the game's over. So's that ultimate restick around?

1969
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 33: Does that give you maybe more hope than you hadn't?

1970
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 33: You know you've used to two and six a lot here,

1971
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 33: you know, you've been two and six o'clock that maybe

1972
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 33: with him it can be a little different.

1973
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:45,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1974
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 32: I mean, at the end of the day, you got

1975
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:48,560
Speaker 32: to keep keep the faith, keep the hope, no matter what,

1976
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 32: no matter who's playing back there. And I mean, obviously,

1977
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 32: whenever you have a guy back there that very much

1978
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 32: like makes it known that he hates this and he

1979
01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 32: wants to be he wants to be great and things

1980
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 32: like that, it does make it a little bit easier.

1981
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 32: But at the end of the day, it's on the

1982
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:03,680
Speaker 32: rest of the guys in here too to go out

1983
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 32: there at the four four.

1984
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:06,720
Speaker 2: That's well, no Rominson after the game and if it

1985
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:09,839
Speaker 2: makes Giant fans feel any better. The Broncos have continued

1986
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 2: what they did against the Giants in the fourth quarter

1987
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 2: last week. They're absolutely lighting up the Dallas Cowboys defense.

1988
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:15,680
Speaker 1: Here.

1989
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 2: They lead the Cowboys twenty seven to ten with thirty

1990
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 2: nine seconds to go in the second quarter. Bonnicks thirteen

1991
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 2: to seventeen for one hundred and sixty nine yards, two touchdowns,

1992
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 2: Troy Franklin five for eighty two. They just do a

1993
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 2: deep touchdown pass to Pat Bryant and they are just

1994
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 2: and R. J. Harvey two touchdown runs in this game

1995
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 2: as well. They are just rolling the ball up and

1996
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:36,599
Speaker 2: down the field on Dallas. And boy that you feel

1997
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 2: for Dak Prescott. He's having a heck of a year, Tiki,

1998
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 2: But that defense can't stop a running.

1999
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Maddy Bulbous is in trouble.

2000
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a few often defensive coordinators in the

2001
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 3: nfcast that are in trouble.

2002
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's get back to the phones.

2003
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 2: At two oh one, nine three nine, four to five

2004
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 2: one three Frank is in SIOSID he's on next day.

2005
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:54,599
Speaker 1: Frank, Hey, Frank, oh are you guys also?

2006
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 8: You know?

2007
01:29:55,200 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 16: Yes, good, good, yeah, rest in peace mangled Yeah.

2008
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2009
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 16: Yesterday I spoke to Cemac. He was asking us how

2010
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 16: we felt about today's game, and I said two things

2011
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 16: to him. I said, my hope. My hope is that

2012
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 16: the Giants defense could play the way he did on

2013
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,680
Speaker 16: the fifth possession against Tender when they stopped him on

2014
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 16: the goal line, when Belton made that great tackle and

2015
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 16: he forced him for a turnover on downs. And I said,

2016
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 16: my concern is that the Giants receivers can hang on

2017
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 16: to the ball because three receivers, THEO Johnson, Robinson and

2018
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 16: Bellinger last week ball dropped ball. Now Bellinger redeemed himself

2019
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 16: he had the first touchdown catch, but he dropped the

2020
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:42,720
Speaker 16: ball in the end zone last week. And today, you know,

2021
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:45,799
Speaker 16: you had Darius Slayton and you had THEO Johnson.

2022
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2023
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 8: And besides, you know.

2024
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 16: The drop balls, they hurt themselves on the offensive side

2025
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:55,720
Speaker 16: of the ball. But with some penalties delayed the game.

2026
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 3: Right, It's like it's at least the fourth or fifth

2027
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 3: one that we've seen with Jackson Dartis quarterback. Now, part

2028
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 3: of that is because he's still young, he's like the

2029
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 3: clock doesn't isn't naturally in his head.

2030
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 1: But the drop passes are are a big part of.

2031
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:12,719
Speaker 3: It because you make those plays and they're tough plays,

2032
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 3: right this is it's a tough game. But if you

2033
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 3: make those plays, it changes a complexion of this game

2034
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:22,720
Speaker 3: for the Giants. And again they're young players, some of

2035
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 3: these guys Steel Johnson is won. You ultimately can't afford

2036
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 3: to miss those big opportunities like they had and early

2037
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:30,639
Speaker 3: in this game.

2038
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 1: Thank you, Frank Glad One more.

2039
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 16: Now, I got a question for you. Yep, third and ten,

2040
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 16: the sixth possession, third quarter. Paul Banks and Bob Bob

2041
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:45,640
Speaker 16: said that he should have ran the ball instead of

2042
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 16: passing it to Robinson for an incomplete pass.

2043
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, he could have, but I mean, it's a long

2044
01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:53,040
Speaker 1: way to get that first down.

2045
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 3: Nice and I think I think, I want to say

2046
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:57,839
Speaker 3: he's being coached out of the out of running the football,

2047
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 3: but he did something today that I don't think we've

2048
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:04,559
Speaker 3: seen yet, and it was a scramble on I think

2049
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:07,640
Speaker 3: it was third down and he slid right past the

2050
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:09,320
Speaker 3: first down mark. I mean he just got past it

2051
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 3: and he slid. It might have been a bit short,

2052
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 3: but they gave him the first down. Anyways, when was

2053
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 3: the last time we haven't seen that for him? And

2054
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 3: so he's clearly taking the coaching that's coming his way,

2055
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:22,720
Speaker 3: and I think that's a good thing. But he's also

2056
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 3: got to learn in certain moments, if you if you,

2057
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:28,759
Speaker 3: if you got if you can run for it, go run.

2058
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 1: For Italy one zero one nine eight eight one zero

2059
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 1: one nine. Let's go back to the phone and stay

2060
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 1: what's up to Steven Rockland, Steve? What's up?

2061
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:38,439
Speaker 4: Then?

2062
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 13: Hey, Steve, Well, guys, I'm gonna I'm gonna how about this.

2063
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 13: When it comes to that whole push push thing, I

2064
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:48,720
Speaker 13: feel like it's Otani rules, and I think you know

2065
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:51,559
Speaker 13: exactly what I'm talking about absolutely the NFL.

2066
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 34: All right, Look, if I have no problem with running that,

2067
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:57,280
Speaker 34: if they want to run that play, whoever wants to

2068
01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 34: run it, you gotta runey. But you have to have

2069
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:05,360
Speaker 34: a caveat that if there is a false start they

2070
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:08,680
Speaker 34: called down from the boots, if they can't see it

2071
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 34: on the field, And that was a fumble.

2072
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 11: And that's a huge non that was huge And if

2073
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 11: it wasn't a fumble, he didn't make the first step.

2074
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 11: The whole thing was twisted, even with and even with

2075
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 11: instant replay and all the things, and they just let

2076
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 11: that go. That's number one. And number two.

2077
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 15: I have to say, all right that when they called

2078
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 15: Slayton for offensive pass interference when you could clearly see

2079
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:38,800
Speaker 15: the defensive backs got a hold of his jersey, right,

2080
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 15: I mean that those are two game changing, crushing calls.

2081
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:49,680
Speaker 1: All right, No one, the Slayton won. The game was

2082
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 1: mostly over.

2083
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 3: But you don't know, right, you don't know what it

2084
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 3: could spark, right, But if you're going to officiate, you

2085
01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:00,439
Speaker 3: got to get it right. And that's the time of play.

2086
01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:01,880
Speaker 3: And they said this on the broadcast, and they were

2087
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 3: right about it, is that you just don't call that one.

2088
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:08,680
Speaker 3: Both guys are interfering in some capacity, you don't call

2089
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 3: that one. Appreciate your call, te And it's hard enough

2090
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:14,400
Speaker 3: to win on the road against a good team that's

2091
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 3: the defending Super Bowl champs. When you have the referees

2092
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:19,639
Speaker 3: working against you, it makes it almost impossible.

2093
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 2: And til you have said a couple of times that

2094
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:24,720
Speaker 2: this was a dominating game by the Eagles, But if

2095
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 2: those two plays. I'm not talking about the Slaton when

2096
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:29,560
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the fumble in the first half of

2097
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 2: this game. If that goes a different way and Theo

2098
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 2: Johnson makes the catch or Darius Slayton makes his catch

2099
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 2: down the sideline and the Giants aren't playing from two

2100
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 2: scores behind.

2101
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:40,639
Speaker 1: This thing, it feels different.

2102
01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 2: It probably would have went the Eagles way anyway. When

2103
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 2: you can'top the running way, the Giants can't stop the run,

2104
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:47,320
Speaker 2: but it would have looked a lot closer and looked

2105
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 2: a lot different as the game went. I completely agree,

2106
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 2: because this Giants team, while good, and they'll fight, and

2107
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:55,639
Speaker 2: I think they have the talent to compete with with anybody,

2108
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:57,839
Speaker 2: even though I'm starting to question that on the defensive

2109
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 2: side of the ball, mostly because of the secondary issues

2110
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 2: that they've had with injuries and in this game, guys

2111
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:06,559
Speaker 2: going out with concussions, et cetera, or hamstrings with with.

2112
01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:10,639
Speaker 1: Who's the other dB that went out with it, R Green,

2113
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 1: so one of those.

2114
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:16,440
Speaker 3: When you start getting depleted, it gets it's almost impossible

2115
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:21,599
Speaker 3: to have errors because guys gotta play perfect, and guys

2116
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 3: who are your backups or third string guys aren't gonna

2117
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 3: play perfect, and so it makes you very vulnerable, and

2118
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:30,880
Speaker 3: the Giants got vulnerable as this game went on.

2119
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 2: It ate Ita eight one zero one nine eight eight

2120
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 2: eight one zero one nine. Let's go back to the

2121
01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 2: phones and let's go to Dan and Jefferson.

2122
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:39,640
Speaker 1: Dan, what's up?

2123
01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 29: Hey, Hey guys, thanks for taking Michael. I'm pretty down now, well,

2124
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 29: pretty good three quarters away through the Bronco game and

2125
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 29: now the whole mojo is gone.

2126
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 1: Now with the last five quarters have been bad dance,

2127
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:56,640
Speaker 1: The last five quarters.

2128
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 21: Have been bad.

2129
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 29: Yeah, So there is a couple of comments I want

2130
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 29: to make today's game. I mean, Johnson's gonna make that catch.

2131
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 29: That bull is right center in his hand.

2132
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 1: Yes, he wasn't ready for it.

2133
01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 3: You can tell he wasn't ready for it, like he

2134
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:11,640
Speaker 3: got to it late though I know he got he

2135
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:13,880
Speaker 3: this is this is him being a young player. He

2136
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 3: got his head around on it late. So he wasn't

2137
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:19,080
Speaker 3: ready for the contested catch that it was that it

2138
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:21,719
Speaker 3: was that it was bound to be, and he just dropped.

2139
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 3: You could tell how it bounced off his hands even

2140
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 3: before he really got a chance to corral it.

2141
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 1: Because you make that catch, it changes the early part

2142
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 1: of this game for sure.

2143
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 15: Yeah.

2144
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 29: And then the Slayton play where they called past interference

2145
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 29: was really I really thought it was questionable. It really

2146
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 29: could have gone either way. I mean, that was a

2147
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:40,800
Speaker 29: big play in the game.

2148
01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe the.

2149
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:43,800
Speaker 29: Game was out of hand then, but it was an

2150
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 29: exciting play. It was a fourth down play, right. So

2151
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:50,560
Speaker 29: and the question half of you guys is is this

2152
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 29: team closing the talent gap between the Giants and Eagles.

2153
01:36:57,479 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, but I don't think it's the It's

2154
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:03,200
Speaker 3: not the talent gap that we need to getar about.

2155
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 3: Appreciate your call, it's the depth gap that you need

2156
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:09,679
Speaker 3: to worry about. Because football is an atricious game. Guys

2157
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 3: are simply they're gonna get hurt.

2158
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:13,759
Speaker 1: We saw it with the Eagles.

2159
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 3: Sakkwon Barkley hurts his hamstring, Tank Bigsby comes in, takes.

2160
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:19,479
Speaker 1: Over, he rushes for one hundred yards as well. So

2161
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 1: part of that is on the offensive line.

2162
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:24,720
Speaker 3: But it's depth that you have to have, and the

2163
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:28,680
Speaker 3: Giants just don't have good depth, especially on the defensive secondaryes.

2164
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 1: We've talked about a lot, no question about it.

2165
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:34,599
Speaker 2: And look, we saw that the Giants beat the Eagles

2166
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 2: handling two weeks ago. We never would have seen that

2167
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:38,640
Speaker 2: over the past four or five years. No, right, I

2168
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,839
Speaker 2: think the talent gap certainly has closed in this division

2169
01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:42,759
Speaker 2: generally speaking.

2170
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:45,920
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Greg and Middletown, New Jersey. Greg,

2171
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 1: what's happening? And I'll be our last caller. Greg. What's up?

2172
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 1: What's up?

2173
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:48,800
Speaker 4: Greg?

2174
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:50,599
Speaker 16: Hey?

2175
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:51,200
Speaker 24: What's going on?

2176
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:51,599
Speaker 13: Guys?

2177
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:53,680
Speaker 24: I just kind of wanted to get your thoughts on

2178
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 24: how important do you think it is for Joe Shane

2179
01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 24: to go out and the Giants to go out and

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Speaker 24: get a pass catching out for Jackson Dart in terms

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Speaker 24: of his development and also to kind of salvage this season.

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Speaker 1: And maybe as well.

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Speaker 3: Just I don't think it's worth it. Appreciate you, appreciate

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Speaker 3: thanks for calling. I don't I don't think it's worth

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Speaker 3: it at this juncture.

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Speaker 1: With their record the way it is. I don't know

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01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 1: if you could trade a draft asset for a player.

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01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want to trade your draft asset you

2189
01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 3: want you'd rather save it and use your draft asset

2190
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 3: because every year there are at least half a dozen,

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01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 3: maybe more, really good receivers that come into.

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Speaker 1: The In fact, I saw a top fifty the other day.

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Speaker 2: Tiki and they had seven wide receivers and they're top

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Speaker 2: fifty in this year, that's right.

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Speaker 3: And even guys that aren't a top fifty, they just

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01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:42,559
Speaker 3: they come in and their playmakers and so the Giants

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01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:44,160
Speaker 3: need to address that for sure.

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Speaker 2: No question about it. All right, Tiki Giants, forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 2: Next week, we'll see who starting a quarterback for the

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01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:52,800
Speaker 2: forty nine ers. I mean rock Party and the worst

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01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:54,680
Speaker 2: Turf Turf to injury of all time. Now Turf Dow

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01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 2: is a very serious injury. And don't don't let the

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01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:58,439
Speaker 2: name fool you, but he has not played in a while.

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01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:02,480
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey's been Juwan Jennings has come back, Ricky piercillizes

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01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 2: them played in three or four weeks either. They're all

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01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 2: sorts of banged up on defense, but Robert Solid Tools

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01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 2: credit has done a really nice job.

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Speaker 1: Of maintaining the effectiveness on that side.

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Speaker 3: Give me a quick look at it to the forty

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Speaker 3: nine ers next Yeah, this game was it will come

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01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:18,280
Speaker 3: down to the Giants being able to contain one of

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01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 3: the when he's healthy, best offensive weapons in football over

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01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:25,439
Speaker 3: the last half a decade or so in Christian mccaff

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01:39:25,479 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 3: and he is healthy right now, and he's healthy, and

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01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:29,040
Speaker 3: that's the one thing that you could never count on.

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01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:31,600
Speaker 3: For the last few weeks, he's been He's been phenomenal,

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01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:35,639
Speaker 3: and I think offensively we mentioned this briefly. I think

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01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:38,080
Speaker 3: Jackson Dart is gonna start getting more of what we

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01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:41,559
Speaker 3: saw the Eagles do, which is plays play coverage, keep

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01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:45,439
Speaker 3: your eyes at him so that the scrambles don't become

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01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:48,720
Speaker 3: an option for him and force him to think through

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01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:50,600
Speaker 3: what he has to do. And the counter to that,

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01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 3: the chess match to that is for Mike Kofka to

2224
01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:55,760
Speaker 3: come up with plays where he gets rid of the

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01:39:55,800 --> 01:40:02,080
Speaker 3: ball quickly, where he's not overthinking his his in progression decisions.

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01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:03,439
Speaker 1: It's just it becomes rope.

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01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:05,880
Speaker 3: So when I see this, look this is where this

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01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:07,800
Speaker 3: ball is going, so that he can get the ball

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01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 3: into his playmaker's hands a lot faster.

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01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 1: And you were closing here. I don't want to get

2231
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:12,280
Speaker 1: too deep into this, but I think he made a

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01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 1: really good point.

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Speaker 2: I think Hafkin and Dave have done a great job

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01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:17,360
Speaker 2: scheming up that first look for him, whether it's a

2235
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 2: wheel round right, mismatch, one on one, a screen, even

2236
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 2: you know those that first look that are what I

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01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:23,880
Speaker 2: call like designer plays.

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01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:25,400
Speaker 1: It's like a right we're setting up for this guy

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01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:25,760
Speaker 1: to score.

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Speaker 2: They've done a great job of giving Dart some easy

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01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 2: looks and throws in those the Scotaboo touchdowns a perfect example.

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01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:34,040
Speaker 2: One say those types of plays. I almost wonder do

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01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:36,160
Speaker 2: you start telling him on some of these players, all right,

2244
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:38,200
Speaker 2: if that first looks not there, if you want to

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01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:40,280
Speaker 2: go through your productions, that fine, just get to the

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01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:42,280
Speaker 2: checkdown right away. Yeah, and it's a right to throw.

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01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:44,599
Speaker 2: They think about this, and I just this just clicked

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01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 2: with with you talking at the end of the show. Here,

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01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:49,040
Speaker 2: when's the last time you saw Jackson Dart door checkdown pass.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we saw any today. Have you

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01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:53,639
Speaker 1: seen it in the last two weeks? He just doesn't

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01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:55,840
Speaker 1: want to check it down because that's his aggressive level.

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01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 3: Almost the last thing that happens for developing quarterback rights

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01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:01,560
Speaker 3: as you find it's I don't want to call it

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01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:03,720
Speaker 3: free yardage because it's not. It's it's tough on the

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Speaker 3: running back from a guy who caught a ton of

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Speaker 3: checkdown passes in my career, But at least it keeps

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01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 3: you regular on first and second day, right, So that

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01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:15,200
Speaker 3: you're not an inconsistent second and third and longs, which

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01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:19,519
Speaker 3: become impossible to convert. Even though the Giants interestingly have

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01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:22,200
Speaker 3: been pretty good at third and lungs this year. I

2262
01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 3: mean they were forty one or so percent on the

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01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 3: game five to twelve, and so their third down conversions

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01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 3: have drastically improved. Their red zones conversions have drastically improved

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01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:34,839
Speaker 3: in the Jackson Dart era. But there's a there's another

2266
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:37,599
Speaker 3: step that he still has to take, and that's making

2267
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:40,280
Speaker 3: a bad play into an okay play.

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Speaker 1: And third and lungs are just a tough place to

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01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:42,560
Speaker 1: live in.

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Speaker 2: You might be good over short stretches and third and lungs,

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01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 2: that's not gonna sustain over a long period, no chance,

2272
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 2: thinking good stuff.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next Sunday, most certainly, thank you,

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Speaker 1: John Well.

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Speaker 2: Giants will be back at home next Sunday as well,

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Speaker 2: because the back in me life stating with the Giants

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Speaker 2: have had a lot of success this year.

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Speaker 1: Check all that out on the Giants multiple platforms. Next

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Speaker 1: weekend Giants and Niners pregame right here on the fan

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Speaker 1: at eleven am, Giants at forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 2: At met Life Stadium for Tiki Barber Our Entire Crew,

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Speaker 2: Bob pop Up, Carl Banks, Howard Cross, Pauldatino, I am

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Speaker 2: John Schmuck.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, so much for being with us today.

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Speaker 2: Sean Morage will continue the Giants talk, and I'm sure

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be locked in on Nick's Heat tonight. No

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Speaker 2: all Giants talk for Mirage. I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: all Giants talk to Marash. Make sure you continue listening

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Speaker 2: right here on the fan. Morash will take things over.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us. We'll talk to you next

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Speaker 1: week