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Speaker 2: The college football season has a period. At the end
Speaker 2: of the sentence, it's over. Back to back national titles
Speaker 2: for the Big Ten. Wonder what SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey
Speaker 2: is thinking, because it used to be the SEC was
Speaker 2: the powerhouse. But once everybody got an opportunity to pay
Speaker 2: players and transfer portal, all of a sudden nil that
Speaker 2: changed things dramatically. Notre Dame, that was a good year.
Speaker 2: If I would have said back in that weekend when
Speaker 2: they lost in Northern Illinois, they're going to play for
Speaker 2: national championship, you probably would have thought not this year,
Speaker 2: Ohio State beating Michigan. And if I would have said
Speaker 2: after that game, hey, don't worry, they're going to win
Speaker 2: the national title. After they lost to Michigan, they're going
Speaker 2: to win the national title. You have these moments. The
Speaker 2: question is how do you react after those moments? After
Speaker 2: those games. Notre Dame reacted and won and continue to win.
Speaker 2: And Marcus Freeman IS's star in the sport Ryan Day,
Speaker 2: the embattled Ryan Day. You lose to Michigan again, if
Speaker 2: you don't have a twelve team playoff, you may not
Speaker 2: have Ryan Day winning a national championship this year. In fact,
Speaker 2: you probably don't, but this is college football.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Who knows what it's going to be like next year
Speaker 2: or in five years from now. But give credit to
Speaker 2: Ohio State because they were the better team last night.
Speaker 2: When it was thirty one seven, I kept thinking, all right,
Speaker 2: Ohio State, just maybe another field goal so I can
Speaker 2: go to bed, and then all of a sudden, here
Speaker 2: comes Notre Day, and then here comes Notre Day, and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, I'm going, what's the point spread?
Speaker 2: Eight and a half? Oh my goodness. Now I'm watching,
Speaker 2: and I thought, if they don't get that third and
Speaker 2: nine when they throw it to Jeremiah Smith, Now all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you got some people going, all right,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of money the cover of the year.
Speaker 2: When you think about it, you one to seven and
Speaker 2: you're going, I'm good. I all these Ohio State fans,
Speaker 2: they laid the eight and a half. They're like, if
Speaker 2: this is going to be a blowout, halftime high five
Speaker 2: in each other, Yeah, hey, I got your beers. Marcus
Speaker 2: Freeman comes out second half, Notre name head coach. He
Speaker 2: looked like he had just been in the washing machine,
Speaker 2: and was like what just happened? And then they got
Speaker 2: a couple of plays made it interesting, and Ohio State
Speaker 2: did what they needed to do with a crucial you know,
Speaker 2: I mean going forward third and nine. Here was Ryan
Speaker 2: Day with that call on the completion to Jeremiah Smith.
Speaker 4: We felt like we had an advantage with Jeremiah on
Speaker 4: that shot, and you know, we've talked about it all week,
Speaker 4: really hadn't thrown one all game, and it was like,
Speaker 4: you know what game in a line, you know, let's go.
Speaker 4: Let's just be aggressive. And I just thought to myself,
Speaker 4: you know, you only even won national championship, you only
Speaker 4: get one opportunity, you know, a year to do this.
Speaker 4: Let's just lay it on the line and put it
Speaker 4: out there and be aggressive. And that's what we did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, third and long, and they were aggressive. Notre Dame
Speaker 2: would have gotten the ball back, they'd have had about
Speaker 2: two minutes to go. Maybe maybe we could have had
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Speaker 2: for hour one is going to.
Speaker 5: Be okay, Well, we've got one from here from Marvin.
Speaker 5: We've got a bunch from toime. All has checked in.
Speaker 5: Where would you like to start?
Speaker 3: Dan?
Speaker 2: I'm going to go Marvin because it's rare when Marvin
Speaker 2: offers up something. Poll question wise.
Speaker 5: If you're an Ohio State fan, you'd rather lose to
Speaker 5: Michigan but win a national title or beat Michigan and
Speaker 5: lose in the college football playoffs.
Speaker 2: I think this is crazy that there are fans it's
Speaker 2: so important to beat Michigan. That has been your identity.
Speaker 2: And yeah, we won a national title, but you need
Speaker 2: to beat Michigan. If you said to Ohio State fans,
Speaker 2: you're gonna lose again to Michigan next year, but you're
Speaker 2: going to play for the national championship. You have to
Speaker 2: play for a national championship.
Speaker 5: You would think you would, you would think.
Speaker 2: But you know, fan bases, the old school fan base,
Speaker 2: how important it was, because it used to be if
Speaker 2: you lost that game, you weren't playing for a national championship.
Speaker 2: That was the importance of it. Now with the twelve
Speaker 2: team playoff, fourteen team playoffs, sixteen team playoff, Okay, you
Speaker 2: lose bragging rights there, but man, that national title that'll
Speaker 2: cure everything. That's the great elixir, a national title. Yes, Paul,
Speaker 2: I have an idea.
Speaker 6: I would present it to you specifically because you know
Speaker 6: Ohio State and history. Today is the day to start
Speaker 6: de emphasizing the Michigan game going forward. Step you are
Speaker 6: the national title holders. You're on full scholarship. Now going forward,
Speaker 6: you've got the big payroll. Start using the word Michigan
Speaker 6: when you talk about them. Don't say the team up north.
Speaker 6: Start saying Michigan like you would say Ohio State, like
Speaker 6: you'd say Purdue or Iowa Wisconsin. Treat them all the same.
Speaker 2: But why can't you have both? Why can't this still
Speaker 2: mean so much? But the national title is more important
Speaker 2: than that.
Speaker 6: Because, like we've been saying, it's meaning a little too
Speaker 6: much the past decade. Start de emphasizing it and making
Speaker 6: another game.
Speaker 2: Beat them.
Speaker 6: You're gonna beat them or not either way, but start
Speaker 6: saying Michigan, Iowa, Purdue step.
Speaker 2: One, Yeah, won't happen.
Speaker 6: Not the team up.
Speaker 2: North, not gonna happen. Just not not. Don't fight it,
Speaker 2: I know, just saying, Hey, I'm not one of those
Speaker 2: that would go, boy, I'd rather beat Michigan and then
Speaker 2: win a national title. That's silly.
Speaker 6: I want to follow up on that. Okay, there's no
Speaker 6: one who really believes that. That's more of a perception
Speaker 6: of the national media about Ohio State fans.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe because I can't.
Speaker 6: Imagine an Ohio State fan today going, you know what,
Speaker 6: if I could have a do over this year, I
Speaker 6: would wax Michigan and take it on the chin and
Speaker 6: Notre Dame.
Speaker 5: Yes, right, But like Michigan fans are somehow taking a
Speaker 5: little bit of a victory lap too, being like, yeah,
Speaker 5: but we beat the national chair, so I guess we
Speaker 5: really are, like, which is absurd. That's I get, how
Speaker 5: tongue in cheek that is too. But these two fan
Speaker 5: bases are that crazy that somehow they find a way
Speaker 5: to take losses and make them wins depending on those circuits.
Speaker 2: Oh, if I'm Michigan, I'm taking a victory lap. Oh
Speaker 2: heck yass. You know, you had a bad season, couldn't
Speaker 2: find a quarterback first year without Jim Harball, and you
Speaker 2: beat Ohio State at Ohio State. And this was brought
Speaker 2: up to me by a former Ohio State player last night,
Speaker 2: and he said, you know what changed when Michigan tried
Speaker 2: to plant the flag? He said, that changed this football team.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, they in their minds became us
Speaker 2: against the world, and they were underdogs somehow. And I said, okay,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll factor that in that all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: Jack Sawyer's grabbing the Michigan flag and throwing it away,
Speaker 2: and now, all of a sudden, there's a different purpose
Speaker 2: with Ohio State. Sure, okay, I mean if you feel
Speaker 2: that that was a seismic shift with his team, they
Speaker 2: became a little bit more I don't know together, but
Speaker 2: there's so much talent there. That's why, you know, when
Speaker 2: we look at Ohio State, it's hard to say that
Speaker 2: they were an underdog. I mean, they're incredible. You know,
Speaker 2: you poached guys from around the country, you spent over
Speaker 2: twenty million. I mean, you should be great. The fact
Speaker 2: that you couldn't come up with an offense against Michigan.
Speaker 2: That was what was mind boggling here. I know you
Speaker 2: lose to Oregon, but that was close game at Oregon.
Speaker 2: This was a great team, yes, Marvin, So last night
Speaker 2: Ohio State was David not in order Dain? Yeah, okay, no,
Speaker 2: just making sure. Yeah, well, David got knocked down, David
Speaker 2: didn't have a slingshot, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: David had a shotgun. And then you're like, here comes David,
Speaker 2: and David's going to put some heat on Ohio State.
Speaker 2: But Ohio State was a better team. Can't imagine that
Speaker 2: somebody's going, yeah, but we better beat Michigan next year.
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's pressure on Ryan Day. And
Speaker 2: once again, I grew up in this environment. I grew
Speaker 2: up in Ohio. I understand that feeling when Michigan would
Speaker 2: beat Ohio State and ruin your college football season. But
Speaker 2: I can't imagine somebody like, next year, if Ohio State
Speaker 2: doesn't beat Michigan, that Ryan Day is all of a
Speaker 2: sudden going to be.
Speaker 4: On the hot seat again.
Speaker 2: Are we reheating Ryan Day? Yes?
Speaker 5: Yeah, how in the world can that even be a
Speaker 5: conversation today?
Speaker 2: I trust me, we get to next season and if
Speaker 2: that happens, then we will be discussing that. People will
Speaker 2: discuss that about Ryan Deack. Rick new Heiseel a little
Speaker 2: bit later on, and I got a couple of questions
Speaker 2: for him, And I have great respect for Rick. One
Speaker 2: of the smartest college football guys. I know I'm watching
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith and he's a freshman. If I said, let's
Speaker 2: say the Patriots, you can have Travis Hunter or Jeremiah Smith,
Speaker 2: who would you take with that second pick overall? Is
Speaker 2: that what it is? Who would you take because you
Speaker 2: got a two way star? Or you have this guy
Speaker 2: who's great. So we'll talk to new Heiseel. Also, who
Speaker 2: is more likely to go to the NFL first, Ryan
Speaker 2: Day or Marcus Freeman. How about that Patriots have the
Speaker 2: fourth pick here, But so we'll talk to Rick new
Speaker 2: Heisl little bit later on.
Speaker 6: Yes, I was thinking about nil and Jeremiah Smith as
Speaker 6: a freshman. What is his retention fee to stay at
Speaker 6: Ohio State?
Speaker 2: But if you're Georgia oh like you, you at least
Speaker 2: have to You won a national title at Ohio State,
Speaker 2: so they can't be that mad. If you say, you
Speaker 2: know what, I got to do something for my family
Speaker 2: now I'm a freshman. If you say that, I would,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd at least kicked the tires on it.
Speaker 2: Just say how much am I worth? How much my worth?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, is he worth what a quarterback's worth. I'd
Speaker 2: say yes. My surprise is in the previous But my
Speaker 2: surprise is against Texas. I think he had three targets.
Speaker 2: I mean that to me is criminal. I'd get him
Speaker 2: the ball no matter what. Like there's certain players where
Speaker 2: you go, I'm going to devise things to get you
Speaker 2: the ball. You have Chip Kelly devise something. And that's
Speaker 2: what amazed me. Ill will use him as a decoy.
Speaker 2: N Let's just use him as the best player on
Speaker 2: the field. They went to him last night, I still
Speaker 2: would have gone to him more. Notre Dame plays man coverage.
Speaker 2: I would have gone to him, and I would have
Speaker 2: kept going to him until they put two guys on him,
Speaker 2: and then I'd take advantage elsewhere.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Paul, I know all is well in Ohio state
Speaker 6: Land today. But let's say Jeremiah Smith doesn't catch that ball,
Speaker 6: or they target someone else, Notredame gets the ball back
Speaker 6: and sends us to overtime. I know it's unlikely, but
Speaker 6: the math was there that Notre Dame could win. That
Speaker 6: Jeremi Smith had one second half target.
Speaker 3: I don't get that.
Speaker 6: I was sitting there thinking about the downside, and I
Speaker 6: was like, if Ohio State loses this game, it's going
Speaker 6: to be catastrophic if their star player had one or
Speaker 6: fewer targets in the second half.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't understand it. You know, I'm sure there's a
Speaker 2: lot of smarter people than me that could tell me.
Speaker 2: But I have to get him the ball, have to
Speaker 2: like remarkable though. I mean, when they did go to him,
Speaker 2: he made the great catch and you know this band
Speaker 2: coverage all right? Yes, Marvin, Sorry, one more thing.
Speaker 4: Yes, is it too early to play the career salary
Speaker 4: game with Jeremi Smith? He should changed he and put
Speaker 4: a dollar sign.
Speaker 7: Yeah, what's he worth? Ten million dollars? Is that fairy.
Speaker 2: Quarterbacks get six seven million dollars? There's nobody like him
Speaker 2: in the country. I don't. I'm sure Ohio State fans
Speaker 2: hate hearing about what if you're Michigan. What if you're
Speaker 2: Michigan and you go, hey, how much we got in
Speaker 2: the collective?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 2: Can you call Larry Ellison again, you know, one of
Speaker 2: the five richest people in the world and a booster
Speaker 2: there notre name or his wife went to Michigan. Hey, Larry,
Speaker 2: we need ten million dollars? Which four? Jeremiah Smith? Oh yeah, okay, yes, Pully.
Speaker 6: I have on three dot com their NIL valuations and
Speaker 6: they're very spot on. Arch Manning is number one, Carson
Speaker 6: Beck number two, Jeremi Smith, the wide receiver is number three.
Speaker 6: His NIL valuation is four to five million dollars. He's
Speaker 6: the only non quarterback in the top twelve. Yeah, well
Speaker 6: what's he worth?
Speaker 3: Now? All right?
Speaker 2: Eight seven seven three DP show. We'll get to other
Speaker 2: possible pull questions. Yes, Tom, what would be a.
Speaker 6: Reasonable number to leave one school for your arch rivals
Speaker 6: where you can feel comfortable with that and not get
Speaker 6: destroyed if you care about your social following, what people
Speaker 6: think of you.
Speaker 2: I would not go to Michigan. I'd go south. And
Speaker 2: he's from Florida. I'd go South Michigan.
Speaker 3: Be like three four million dollars more? Is that enough?
Speaker 3: And you're not getting that money anywhere else for whatever reason.
Speaker 2: I'd think you somebody's gonna match the offer, But I
Speaker 2: would be I'd be curious, what is it costing Ohio
Speaker 2: State to keep him? And does anybody reach out to
Speaker 2: him or one of his middleman or agents or whatever.
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Speaker 2: He is a former All Conference tight end in high school,
Speaker 2: former Milwaukee Brewer great and now a Hall of Famer. C. C. Sabathia, Congratulations,
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you. What kind of tight end were
Speaker 2: you like? You know what?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: Who did you pattern your game after? In high school?
Speaker 10: I was not a blocking tight end. I was more
Speaker 10: of a need I need at least three balls throwing
Speaker 10: my way a half before I can, you know, start blocking.
Speaker 3: My model was no rock, no block, no rock, no block.
Speaker 2: Did you think about playing in college?
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 10: I really wanted to. I really wanted to play football.
Speaker 10: That was that was my first love. I really enjoyed
Speaker 10: playing football. But I but I know, like my body type,
Speaker 10: since I would have got to college, they would have
Speaker 10: turned me into office attackle right away. So I mean
Speaker 10: hopefully it hopefully it would have paid off. But yeah,
Speaker 10: I mean I would have loved to be out of
Speaker 10: been able to have a chance to go to college
Speaker 10: to play football.
Speaker 2: How many pairs of pants do you have for your
Speaker 2: playing days? I love I'd love to get a pair
Speaker 2: of those those pants.
Speaker 10: Man, You know what, I honestly, I probably have a
Speaker 10: couple of pairs. They put it, they put They put
Speaker 10: a few on my locker when I go back for
Speaker 10: spring training now, just for just for fun, I can
Speaker 10: get both legs and one and one and one leg now.
Speaker 2: But what made you go to those large, you know,
Speaker 2: baggy pants.
Speaker 3: You know what? It was just me wanting to like
Speaker 3: resent myself. You know.
Speaker 10: It was the hat being tilted sideways. When I first
Speaker 10: came up, the pants had to be super tight like that.
Speaker 10: You know, everybody wore the uniform super small and super tight,
Speaker 10: and they had to elastic at the bottom. And once
Speaker 10: I got a little older and a little established in
Speaker 10: the league, I was like, I want to kind of
Speaker 10: represent how I want to look on the field. And
Speaker 10: it was the back with the big jerseys and everybody's
Speaker 10: wearing the throwback. So I adopted the big pants. I
Speaker 10: tilted my hat to the side or where a big
Speaker 10: My jersey was always my sleeves are always a lot
Speaker 10: longer than everybody else's and it was just kind of
Speaker 10: my style. And uh, it's a funny story about that.
Speaker 10: One time Russell Bringion when I was in Cleveland, wore
Speaker 10: my pants in Kansas City and George Brett came down
Speaker 10: and like lit him up totally. We looked like a clown,
Speaker 10: all this stuff he wasent to making the big game
Speaker 10: look bad and all these different things.
Speaker 3: It was. It was hilarious. But yeah, I have a
Speaker 3: few pairs I can send you something.
Speaker 2: What about the hat though, when you wore the hat
Speaker 2: to the side, what kind of reaction did you get.
Speaker 10: Early in my career, not a good reaction obviously, as
Speaker 10: you know how the big leagues are with the unwritten rules,
Speaker 10: and you know, just being a young guy I was.
Speaker 10: I was twenty years old in that clubhouse when I
Speaker 10: first came up, so I was the youngest guy. The
Speaker 10: next oldest guy on that team was, you know, twenty six,
Speaker 10: twenty seven, so it was even hard to you know,
Speaker 10: for guys to relate to me. So yeah, I mean
Speaker 10: it was just my thing. It was, you know, me
Speaker 10: wearing my hat way to the side and going to
Speaker 10: grab the ball with my hand from the third basement
Speaker 10: after every out. Was just kind of what two of
Speaker 10: those things that I wanted to be mine and I
Speaker 10: was able to carry that for you know, through my
Speaker 10: career for nineteen years.
Speaker 2: Okay, but just tilting your hat to the sign. Was
Speaker 2: that something that your boys did, like guys you hung
Speaker 2: around with, Well.
Speaker 10: No, you know what So when I when I was
Speaker 10: in high school, my high school coach, he would get
Speaker 10: on me about the way I wore my hat because
Speaker 10: scouts would show up at the field so early, so
Speaker 10: they would watch. I would always have my hat on
Speaker 10: backwards or you know, propped up on my head and
Speaker 10: you know, just walk into the park. So he would
Speaker 10: always get on me about, you know, the way I looked,
Speaker 10: the way I you know, represented myself walking you know,
Speaker 10: with scouts walking around. So after I got drafted and
Speaker 10: you know, I felt like I was established, I was like,
Speaker 10: I'm more on my hat, however I want to however
Speaker 10: I want to wear it.
Speaker 2: What's like Ken Griffey Junior when he had his hat backwards.
Speaker 2: All the baseball purists like, you're disrespecting the game.
Speaker 10: Yeah, no, I mean it's just a thing that you know,
Speaker 10: and you know, other guys started adopting. You know, Fernando
Speaker 10: Rodney came up. He was wearing his hat to the side.
Speaker 10: Don Trelle Willis came up. We're from that same you
Speaker 10: know area. We've been knowing each other forever. He was
Speaker 10: wearing his hat to the side. So it became a thing,
Speaker 10: and and uh, you know, I'm glad I stuck with it.
Speaker 2: Honestly, he's CC Sabbathia, freshly minted Hall of Famer. Where
Speaker 2: were you when you got the call?
Speaker 3: I was here. I was home. You know.
Speaker 10: We we had a bunch of people over and Baseball
Speaker 10: Hall of Fame is you know, it's it's a tricky thing.
Speaker 10: You don't know if you're gonna get that call or that.
Speaker 10: So we had a big party last night. And it
Speaker 10: could have been, you know, a big party. It could
Speaker 10: have you know, made for good TV, or you know,
Speaker 10: it made for you know, a good celebration last night.
Speaker 10: But you know, I wanted everybody around whether I got
Speaker 10: the call or not last night. It's just special being
Speaker 10: on the ballot. I know how hard it is to
Speaker 10: get into the Baseball Hall of Fame being you know,
Speaker 10: just a sports fan in general, and understanding sports.
Speaker 3: So it was a special moment for us.
Speaker 2: Did you cry?
Speaker 10: I haven't yet, but you know, like I see different
Speaker 10: things and I get on the verge of crying and
Speaker 10: then somebody text me or somebody calls it. I've been
Speaker 10: so busy, you know, with with you know, planning and
Speaker 10: you know, we're driving up a Cooperstown in an hour
Speaker 10: and all these different things. I think I haven't had
Speaker 10: a chance to really sit down and process it yet.
Speaker 2: Which it means though, to go in first ballance it.
Speaker 3: Means, I mean, it means a lot.
Speaker 10: I mean, and like we like I just said, you know,
Speaker 10: understanding you know, Baseball Hall and understanding just a Hall
Speaker 10: of Fame in general. I don't think ten years ago,
Speaker 10: I don't think I go in as a first ballot
Speaker 10: Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3: You know, I think, you.
Speaker 10: Know, the the way the writers have looked at the game,
Speaker 10: and you know, the way the game has changed has
Speaker 10: allowed me to be a first ballot Hall of Famer,
Speaker 10: which is awesome to me. And you know, now I
Speaker 10: look at you know, myself and somebody like you know,
Speaker 10: justin Verlander, Max scherz Er, you know Greenky. You know,
Speaker 10: we're kind of starters you know, we're dying breed, you know,
Speaker 10: So you know, I feel like, you know, all those
Speaker 10: guys I just named the going first ballot.
Speaker 2: Too, and Kershaw as well.
Speaker 3: But you're Kershaw too.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Yeah, but you're talking about that. You had
Speaker 2: thirty eight career complete games. Guys won't come close to that,
Speaker 2: and then pitching and have three thousand strikeouts and two
Speaker 2: hundred felt like it's almost like the running back where
Speaker 2: we got to the point where we devalued the running back.
Speaker 2: Now the running back came back, but the analytics has
Speaker 2: changed everything, and I don't know how analytics may have
Speaker 2: helped you be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think, I mean, I think there will be
Speaker 10: a lot more guys with you know, one hundred and
Speaker 10: fifty wins, three thousand strikeouts. You know, if you think,
Speaker 10: I think there'll be a lot more guys because if
Speaker 10: you look at it, the guys guys strake out two
Speaker 10: hundred and fifty two hundred and fifty guys a year
Speaker 10: now or you know, getting close to three hundred strikeouts
Speaker 10: a year just because you know, hitters don't care about
Speaker 10: striking out. So I think we'll get guys with three
Speaker 10: thousand strikeouts, I think it'll be harder to get guys
Speaker 10: to two hundred wins. And as far as analytics for me,
Speaker 10: I mean yeah, I mean I think they helped in
Speaker 10: you know, I think they helped me get into the
Speaker 10: Hall of Fame obviously, like I said, because of you know,
Speaker 10: the dying breeders starters. But while I was playing, you know,
Speaker 10: it was hard to you know, transition to you know,
Speaker 10: this this world of analytics and you know, trying to
Speaker 10: understand that it wants you to just throw your best
Speaker 10: pitch over and over and over again, where you know,
Speaker 10: I understand you need to set up you know, hitters
Speaker 10: to be able to you know, trick them with your
Speaker 10: best pitch. So you know, it was it was tough
Speaker 10: at the end of my career, you know, trying to
Speaker 10: pitch with analytics. But you know, being outside out of
Speaker 10: the game and understanding analytics, I understand, you know there's
Speaker 10: a need.
Speaker 3: For it in the game.
Speaker 2: How did you do against each hei Roll?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know what, I honestly don't know.
Speaker 10: I bet you each ye old has a good career
Speaker 10: batting batting average against me. Somebody told me last night
Speaker 10: that he was my thousand strikeout though, so that's pretty cool.
Speaker 10: But I got a cool story. I mean, two thousand
Speaker 10: and six, I was struggling trying to figure out I
Speaker 10: needed a putout pitch. So we're trying to figure out.
Speaker 10: I was trying to, you know, how to learn how
Speaker 10: to throw a cutter. Carl Willis and I went down
Speaker 10: to the bullpen in Oakland and he showed me a
Speaker 10: grip of how he threw his cutter. And I came
Speaker 10: out of that bullpen with like an eighty two eighty
Speaker 10: three mile an hour slider that I started throwing, and
Speaker 10: I was like, Oh, this thing is nasty. I can't
Speaker 10: wait till my next start. We go from Oakland and Seattle.
Speaker 10: Next time I get into a game, I take it
Speaker 10: out there, and the first time I throw it in
Speaker 10: the game, each roll hit it off the window.
Speaker 3: In my mind, I'm like, oh, no, it's just easy.
Speaker 10: Like it's good because I'm getting out with it, I'm
Speaker 10: getting stikes with and I'm like, no, it's good.
Speaker 3: He comes up the next time he hits it out
Speaker 3: of you.
Speaker 2: Who is the guy though? That you could never figure out?
Speaker 10: Uh man, it was a bunch, But I think Evan
Speaker 10: Longoria was a guy that I'll be staying on them
Speaker 10: out be like, man, I'm just I can't.
Speaker 3: I got nothing for you but him.
Speaker 10: Manny Ramirez, you know, uh, Miguel Cabrera, you know, just
Speaker 10: those quiet, right handed hitters that you know, see the
Speaker 10: strikes on the well.
Speaker 2: Who's going to help you with your speech?
Speaker 10: I think everybody's gonna help me with my speech, you know,
Speaker 10: I mean anybody that knows me. You know, I hate
Speaker 10: standing up in front of people and you know, kind
Speaker 10: of public speaking. So I'm gonna pull inspiration from everybody.
Speaker 10: But I want to I want to make sure I
Speaker 10: get it right. I want to make sure, you know,
Speaker 10: I get I named the right people and and uh,
Speaker 10: you know, get people their just due because it wasn't
Speaker 10: just me. You know the reason why. You know, I'm
Speaker 10: going to Cooper.
Speaker 3: Shown as a Yankee, hopefully as a Yankee, yes, as
Speaker 3: a Yanks.
Speaker 2: Should the ballot be made public, the writers one one
Speaker 2: person didn't vote for each roll.
Speaker 10: Uh you know what, I don't think, So, I mean,
Speaker 10: I don't I don't like, you know, worrying about who
Speaker 10: didn't vote for who. I mean, it's you know, he's
Speaker 10: in the Hall of fame. Now, So what difference does
Speaker 10: it make? You know, we spend so much time, you know,
Speaker 10: worried about the negative and you know why he didn't
Speaker 10: vote for each row. But let's talk about the three
Speaker 10: hundred and ninety five votes he did get and you know,
Speaker 10: him going to Cooperstown because he's well deserved of it.
Speaker 10: So you know, it's you know, it's just a you know,
Speaker 10: something that you know in baseball we all all worry about.
Speaker 10: In the other sports, it doesn't matter, right, it doesn't
Speaker 10: matter what present of the vote you get.
Speaker 3: Once you go in, you're in. So you know, it
Speaker 3: kind of is what it is.
Speaker 2: Best player you played with in your career was who
Speaker 2: ay Rod? Wow, that was quick?
Speaker 10: Oh yeah? Why give Robbie a Lamar a close second?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So what was it about a ra that you'd take
Speaker 2: him over everybody else?
Speaker 10: I mean, obviously, just is the talent that you know,
Speaker 10: I mean, you know, six ' three, you know, third
Speaker 10: basement shortstop at the time. You know when I when
Speaker 10: I was coming up the third basement of the time
Speaker 10: and I played with him, but his baseball IQ, his
Speaker 10: IQ was off the charge, the way he watches the game,
Speaker 10: the way you're sitting next to him on the bench,
Speaker 10: and you know, he'd be like, Oh, we need to
Speaker 10: hit and run here, or oh we need to double steal,
Speaker 10: or oh this team is going to do this. He
Speaker 10: watches the game at a different level than we all
Speaker 10: watch the game, and you know, having a chance to
Speaker 10: play with him and have him at third base, there'd
Speaker 10: be times when you know, a guy be coming up
Speaker 10: and he'd be like, Hey, you know, throw a change
Speaker 10: up right here. This guy swinging first pitch, or you
Speaker 10: know this guy you know he may be taking right here.
Speaker 10: So he would be you know, just watching the game
Speaker 10: and the IQ and obviously putting the talent with that.
Speaker 10: You know, he was the best player that I that
Speaker 10: I've ever got a chance to be up close to.
Speaker 2: Did you ever get to socialize with Jeter?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I'm really close with Jeter. He was actually
Speaker 3: just calling me right now.
Speaker 2: I mean, oh, yeah, he's upset that you said a
Speaker 2: Rod over Jeter. But did you go out in New York? Like,
Speaker 2: what what was it like when Jeter was out?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 10: I mean it was It's always a lot of fun
Speaker 10: to go out with Jet and hang out with Jet
Speaker 10: because he takes all the attention so like I can
Speaker 10: just kind of like hang out and slide in and
Speaker 10: nobody's going actually autographs or pictures or anything, and he
Speaker 10: just kind of ride his coattail. So uh yeah, I
Speaker 10: mean he was he was always really cool. I mean
Speaker 10: as soon as I got here to New York, uh
Speaker 10: that first bring training, me and him, Posada, you know,
Speaker 10: all the guys, we got really close, and I think
Speaker 10: that was the reason why we were able to wear
Speaker 10: right away.
Speaker 2: But you didn't sit there and go, who's uh Jeter
Speaker 2: dating now, like, who's who's that? Who's a like his
Speaker 2: lineup card at Yankee Stadium.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I had nothing to do with me.
Speaker 2: But as an innocent bystander, you have to be like, oh,
Speaker 2: that looks like, oh that is that's a favorite famous act.
Speaker 2: Jeter is definitely gonna be calling you now. He congratulations
Speaker 2: and uh, don't be afraid. Don't be afraid to a mote,
Speaker 2: you know, you cry, We're right there with you.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thank you all right at cc Sabathia.
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Speaker 2: He's Ryan Day, head coach at Ohio State, National champs coach. Congratulations.
Speaker 2: How much of this was joy and how much of
Speaker 2: this was relief?
Speaker 4: And it was a combination of the two. Yeah, it
Speaker 4: was it was both. And I think the whole run
Speaker 4: that we went on throughout the playoffs was that way.
Speaker 4: I really haven't had as much fun coaching a team
Speaker 4: like that in a long time. It was just a
Speaker 4: bunch of guys together. There really was no class because
Speaker 4: class was out, and we just spent a bunch of
Speaker 4: time together and had a bunch of fun, bunch of
Speaker 4: fun playing. But in the end ends, as we headed
Speaker 4: in that last game, we just knew that, you know,
Speaker 4: it would just be another story that kind of comes
Speaker 4: and goes. But now the fact that we won, we're
Speaker 4: able to cement that story in the history of college
Speaker 4: football and obviously at Ohio State.
Speaker 2: But take me back to Michigan, and I had a
Speaker 2: former player say this to me that when Michigan tried
Speaker 2: to plant the flag, that maybe brought your team together
Speaker 2: or more together. Whether that's true or not, you would
Speaker 2: know that better. But it's almost like it galvanized this team.
Speaker 2: Nothing's going to be easy us against the world. They
Speaker 2: embarrassed us. Now let's go out and prove that we're
Speaker 2: still the best team. Anything I'm saying that wasn't true.
Speaker 4: I think it's certainly part of the story of the year,
Speaker 4: there's no question about that. And I felt like this
Speaker 4: team was close anyways. I thought we were galvanized. But
Speaker 4: when you go through something like that, you know, you
Speaker 4: have to regroup and figure out, most importantly what happened
Speaker 4: and how do we get these things fixed. So, you know,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of ways to look at this, and
Speaker 4: some more dramatic than others, but the truth is we
Speaker 4: had to get things fixed. There was things that were
Speaker 4: just not right coming out of that game that, you know,
Speaker 4: all three phases we need to get addressed, and that
Speaker 4: was the bottom line. And then there was a lot
Speaker 4: of other things that came with it, as you know,
Speaker 4: And you know, once we got those things addressing, the
Speaker 4: players recognize that things needed to get fixed and knew
Speaker 4: the plan going into the Tennessee game. There was just
Speaker 4: there was a collective, just like you said, a bunch
Speaker 4: of guys together saying all right, we're gonna make this
Speaker 4: run and we're gonna be dangerous. Once we get some
Speaker 4: momentum going again.
Speaker 2: But how does this affect you personally? You lose to
Speaker 2: Michigan again, and you know that topic in Columbus in
Speaker 2: that state, and you know, you're I don't know if
Speaker 2: you're fighting for survival or what I tell me your
Speaker 2: emotions where you lose to Michigan again and you know
Speaker 2: the importance of what that means.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, sir, only you know, there was obviously
Speaker 4: disappointment amongst all the other emotions. But you know, once
Speaker 4: those things kind of come and go and you have
Speaker 4: a couple of days, you have to refocus yourself. And
Speaker 4: as difficult as that was, it was an opportunity to
Speaker 4: write an unbelievable story. And then next month and I
Speaker 4: I felt like it was an opportunity for me as
Speaker 4: a dad, as a husband, and as a man to
Speaker 4: show my family that you know, when you get knocked
Speaker 4: down and you're backed up against the wall, that you know,
Speaker 4: it's about how you handle yourself and how you fight
Speaker 4: yourself out of these types of situations. And then and
Speaker 4: then you know, for our team, you know, for the
Speaker 4: guys on the team and the seniors and even the
Speaker 4: young guys to watch, you know, you know, how you
Speaker 4: handle yourself and then have something to grab on to
Speaker 4: it for the rest of their life, and then serve
Speaker 4: as an example for all the Buckeye fans who you know,
Speaker 4: certainly you know had ups and downs this season, but
Speaker 4: we're able to, you know, see how you hand yourself
Speaker 4: when when things get really really difficult, and I think
Speaker 4: that really defines people's character.
Speaker 2: It was reported there were death threats. How do you
Speaker 2: talk to your kids about that or your wife about
Speaker 2: how do you process that?
Speaker 4: I think every year for us, it's become easier to
Speaker 4: manage when you know, our family first was named you know,
Speaker 4: the head coach in twenty nineteen. My wife and the
Speaker 4: kids were smaller than we were all sitting on the
Speaker 4: bed together, and I've told the story before. She said,
Speaker 4: you know, started crying, said our family's never going to
Speaker 4: be the same again, and she was right. But that
Speaker 4: didn't make it easy. You know, you're expected to win
Speaker 4: them all and when you don't, it's it's tough, but
Speaker 4: that's because of the passion, and nobody puts more pressure
Speaker 4: on themselves than myself and my family. Nobody wants to
Speaker 4: win more than my kids and my wife, So it
Speaker 4: isn't so much that because they're more disappointed than anybody
Speaker 4: could possibly be in Buckeye Nation. And so we share
Speaker 4: the same frustration because you know, my family and my
Speaker 4: kids want to win worse than even I do. I mean,
Speaker 4: I just that's the way they're wired. And and they
Speaker 4: love the fans, and so you know, when when you
Speaker 4: do lose, you know, there's there's a feeling of disappointment,
Speaker 4: and you know you share in the frustration with with
Speaker 4: people because they love it so much. But that's that's
Speaker 4: also living. You know, you're relevant. I mean, that's that's
Speaker 4: what makes Ohio State so special, is because people care
Speaker 4: so much. Now with that comes from some craziness, but
Speaker 4: that's okay. Uh, it also makes when you win that
Speaker 4: much more special.
Speaker 2: What was it like when you saw your family after
Speaker 2: you won the title?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was Yeah, that was a special moment. You know,
Speaker 4: something that you know, always remember, just the fact that
Speaker 4: you could look at your your family and your wife
Speaker 4: and the eyes and say, hey, we we did this
Speaker 4: thing together, and they did. They were a big part
Speaker 4: of it. And we know where we were about a
Speaker 4: month and a half ago and where we are right now.
Speaker 4: And it was pure Joy, like you mentioned earlier.
Speaker 2: Is Ryan Day, head coach of Ohio State national champs.
Speaker 2: Take me back to the third and eleven call. Who
Speaker 2: makes the call and was what was the other option
Speaker 2: in that situation?
Speaker 4: Well, we were trying to run down the clock we had.
Speaker 4: There's a point in the game where we're up by
Speaker 4: multiple scores and you start doing the math on it,
Speaker 4: and you're like, man, if we can just run out
Speaker 4: a few minutes, you know, each time we have the
Speaker 4: ball and continue to get some first downs and we
Speaker 4: could just you can milk this thing and win. And
Speaker 4: when you're talking about being that close to a national championship,
Speaker 4: you know you're holding on real tight. Maybe held on
Speaker 4: a little too tight. But on first and second down,
Speaker 4: we were gonna run the ball. We thought about throwing
Speaker 4: it on second down because we saw a man the
Speaker 4: man coverage on the outside, and you know, wanted to
Speaker 4: keep the clock running. And then they called the time
Speaker 4: out and on the headset, there's a lot of back
Speaker 4: and forth there. Our whole offensive staff, I thought, did
Speaker 4: a great job throughout the whole run chips obviously right
Speaker 4: there and we said, you know, we run it one
Speaker 4: more time and chew up the clock, and some guys said, no,
Speaker 4: let's let's call third down play, And so we looked
Speaker 4: at the call sheet and we saw a play that
Speaker 4: is one of our bass plays that we put in
Speaker 4: day one. We're literally it's a go ball on the
Speaker 4: outside of the outside receivers and a mill read by
Speaker 4: our h and a couple of checkdowns by the inside guys,
Speaker 4: and we say, if we're lucky enough to get one
Speaker 4: on one on the outside. And then when we were
Speaker 4: launching that thing up away from the free safety, and
Speaker 4: we had worked hard on that route in particular because
Speaker 4: we knew we were getting a certain technique in the game,
Speaker 4: and so when we saw it, you know, our eyes
Speaker 4: lit up, so the will's and certainly had to be executed.
Speaker 4: But it was like in slow motion.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say, what's it like when that ball's
Speaker 2: in the air.
Speaker 4: Slow motion? Just like holding your breath, knowing that if
Speaker 4: we catch this thing, we're probably national champs. And there's
Speaker 4: an unbelievable picture. It's a still photo from the sideline
Speaker 4: from the other way. You can see our entire sideline
Speaker 4: as the balls in the air, and just the look
Speaker 4: of everybody's face on that sideline is amazing just because
Speaker 4: everyone can see, like we catch this ball, We're gonna
Speaker 4: be national champs.
Speaker 2: It was quite a moment. How difficult is it to
Speaker 2: keep your roster together? There's a report that Jeremiah Smith
Speaker 2: offered four and a half million dollars. Like Ohio State
Speaker 2: doesn't usually lose players, but now in today's nil and
Speaker 2: transfer portal, everybody's fair game. So how do you go
Speaker 2: about having conversations or retaining some of your players?
Speaker 4: I think the first thing you'd have to bring in
Speaker 4: great people and great families, but you also have to
Speaker 4: value them and try to do everything you can to
Speaker 4: get what they deserve and what's fair. But there's also
Speaker 4: something to be said for being around a program like ours,
Speaker 4: and you know, you think if it's all equal, you
Speaker 4: know we'll have a chance to get our share of guys.
Speaker 4: But it is different, There's no question. I think as
Speaker 4: coaches were all looking for a little bit more guidelines
Speaker 4: on this. I mean, everything is so gray right now, and.
Speaker 2: How does that work though? Coach that Let's say I
Speaker 2: wanted to talk to Jeremiah. Let's say I'm Georgia. I
Speaker 2: want to talk to him, Like, how does that go?
Speaker 2: About that you get in front of somebody or you know,
Speaker 2: you put a price tag, and is there tampering in
Speaker 2: college football?
Speaker 4: I think one of the big issues that we have
Speaker 4: in across the board in college football right now is enforcement.
Speaker 4: I mean, you just you know, you know some of
Speaker 4: the stories of some of the things that have gone
Speaker 4: on just you know, within the last couple of years
Speaker 4: or even in the past, but enforcement is really strained
Speaker 4: right now. And so until we start enforcing some of
Speaker 4: these rules, like you said, I mean, people can just
Speaker 4: call someone's agents or someone's parents and offer them a
Speaker 4: certain amount of money and then it goes from there.
Speaker 4: And that's just part of it. I mean, there's so
Speaker 4: many other things that come in place. So that's one
Speaker 4: of the things to me that I think we've got
Speaker 4: to get addressed in college sports. In college football is enforcement,
Speaker 4: because right now there's virtually none, and it's it's gotten
Speaker 4: worse as time has gone on.
Speaker 2: When's the last time but NFL team reached out to you, uh, you.
Speaker 4: Know, they don't really reach out to me. They would
Speaker 4: reach out, I guess to my agent and that happened sometimes.
Speaker 4: But you know, we've not really engaged because I love
Speaker 4: Ohio State, and I want to be here as long
Speaker 4: as I can.
Speaker 2: So that's not a goal.
Speaker 4: No, that's not a goal. It's not a goal. And
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't consider that somewhere down
Speaker 4: the line. But my son is a sophomore in high school,
Speaker 4: my daughters are in middle school. They love it here,
Speaker 4: and you know, I want to be here, you know,
Speaker 4: through there, through there, you know, run through high school
Speaker 4: and then you know, see what the next phase brings.
Speaker 4: But but like I said, you know, once the confetti fell,
Speaker 4: that was it. It's on next year.
Speaker 2: Do you get a vacation?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we'll have We'll have some time. But but
Speaker 4: it's not like, you know, we're going away to Tahi
Speaker 4: for a week talking.
Speaker 2: Were you on the phone to recruits after the national title?
Speaker 4: It recruits and you know, are our current players and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that night, I mean, that's a great thing. Saban
Speaker 2: would do that. He'd win a national title, get on
Speaker 2: the phone and say to a recruit, Hey, you could
Speaker 2: be celebrating with us, Confetti probably in his hair. Did
Speaker 2: you do that?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 4: But you know what's interesting is the timetables changed. So
Speaker 4: the early signing day we had one hundred and forty
Speaker 4: five guys on our team this year, and over twenty
Speaker 4: of them were recruits that started classes on January sixth,
Speaker 4: so they were actually with the team for the last
Speaker 4: two games, so instead of the signing day which should
Speaker 4: be happening next Wednesday, they had signed and were enrolled
Speaker 4: in classes. So like, the timetables changed a lot. But
Speaker 4: you know, we have obviously, you know, been recruiting the
Speaker 4: twenty sixth class, which is about another year away.
Speaker 2: Where would you put Jeremiah Smith with the other receivers
Speaker 2: you've coached.
Speaker 4: Well after the first year, it's hard to put him
Speaker 4: anywhere other than one. I think some of those guys
Speaker 4: had great freshman years, but not not like this.
Speaker 2: We need to check his birth certificate, Like how old
Speaker 2: do you see, coach come on?
Speaker 4: Nineteen years old?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he special and we knew he was special,
Speaker 4: and his maturity is beyond his years physically, mentally and emotionally.
Speaker 4: He's a special talent, as you know.
Speaker 2: Congrats, enjoy it while you can, because we know what happens.
Speaker 2: So this season starts, then there's the Michigan game. Keep
Speaker 2: smiling never ends, does it? Thank you?
Speaker 3: Coach? Ever?
Speaker 4: Does respect.
Speaker 2: It's Ryan Day, head coach of Ohio State