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Everyone, welcome to the Sox Machine. 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:04.120 I'm your host, Josh Nelson, and it's Sunday, June twenty first, 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:08.640 twenty twenty six as we record this episode, it's Father's Day. 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:10.720 So to all the dads out there, we all hope 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.000 that you had a wonderful Father's Day. 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:15.600 The Chicago White Sox did not have a. 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:17.880 Good weekend as they were swept in the three game 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:22.479 series against the Tigers. Our show Rundown for this episode 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.720 the White Sox road Wares. We'll be talking about just 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:29.200 the difficulties have been having away from rape Field, bull 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:33.920 bend concerns again as Sir Anthony Domingus again cannot lock 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:38.120 up the save, where's the offense? And review the Big 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:42.559 American League Central series against the Cleveland Guardians. First, let's 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:44.720 talk about the Chicago White Sox road wares as they 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:47.640 are fifteen to twenty five away from rape Field. Here's 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:52.080 Chicago White Sox manager Will Vennable addressing those issues the 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:53.440 White Sox are facing. 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:55.560 We're looking at everything. 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:57.200 I think that's part of what we do on a 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:59.320 daily basis is you know, what is it that we 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:01.320 can do better to support this group today? 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:04.360 And that you know includes when we're at home too. 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:06.800 So you know, there's not been a thing that we've 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:08.880 been able to put our finger on to you know, 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:12.400 explain the difference. You know, for me, I think that 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:16.440 you know in forty plus game sample that you know, 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:19.720 a lot of teams you know, are sub five hundred 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.880 on the road, and certainly we have a big disparity 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:24.959 in our record. I think it speaks as much to 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:27.960 our home advantage and our fans coming out and supporting 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:31.080 us in the way that our players respond to our 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:32.839 home fans as much as anything else. 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:34.160 So we'll figure it out. 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:36.720 These guys, you know, continue to put themselves in good 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:38.679 spots to half chances to win. We just got to 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:40.040 do a little more on the road. 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:40.920 Now. 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:43.760 Joining me on the Sox Machine podcast is Sox Machines 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:47.520 Managing editor. It's Jim Margulus And before we get started, Jim, 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:48.799 Happy Father's Day. 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:50.079 Did you have a good Father's Day? 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:55.840 Yeah? Solo dating this week. Uh. So, it's a lot 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:59.959 of fothering. It's uh, it's good. It's a lot easier 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.919 to do it when he's four versus three. Here there's 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:07.679 some stuff he can do by himself, more friends to 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:12.880 play with, so it's less handholding, less crying, less of 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:16.760 the terrible threes, which are terrible twos don't exist as 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.320 far as I'm concerned. Two was fine, three was miserable. 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:22.720 Four there's a little bit more reason to go along, 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:25.880 a little bit more of here's our plan, and we're 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:29.040 gonna leave this place peacefully before we show up, right, 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:31.760 you're gonna remember that you agreed to leave peacefully without 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.600 screaming when the fun is over, that sort of thing. 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:39.480 So yeah, it's it's it's it's good, it's it's yeah. 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:40.200 Three was tough. 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.520 Well to all the dads again. Happy Father's Day, Jim. 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:47.480 The White Sox did not have a good weekend in Detroit. 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:52.560 As I mentioned in the intro, their dads and the 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.600 road rows are continuing to pick up like this is 0:03:55.680 --> 0:04:00.400 now becoming a serious topic, and I guess, or our 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:03.840 expectations coming to the season, it shouldn't be a surprise, 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:07.480 but now that our expectations have been changing mid season, 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:11.520 the White Sox have now lost seven straight road series. 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.600 They are now fifteen and twenty five on the road, 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:19.200 and you've already played half of your road games this year. 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:21.599 If you double that number, you're. 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:25.520 On base to be twenty games below five hundred on 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:27.920 the road, which means that you have to be just 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:31.720 as good or even better at home, which they have been. 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:35.120 That's why they still have a winning record. Will Venable, 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:37.480 I guess, based on what we just heard from in 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:40.880 the intro, he's trying to find an answer as far 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:42.760 as is there a better process that we should be 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.360 doing to play better on the road. But what do 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:48.039 you make of the White Sox road ros to start 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:48.599 this season. 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:53.360 They're weird because they're not what you would expect, Like 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:55.040 I would think if the White Sox were beat on 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:57.680 the road, it's because they're not hitting on the road, 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:01.600 because maybe they're a little two reliant on the offense 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:06.599 hitting homers at home and those cheap or wind aided 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.560 fly balls to right field don't carry the same kind 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:11.600 of like the Kaufman Stadium problems of just going to 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.720 a bigger park or a park with less friendly corners, 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:19.080 all of a sudden, they have to sequence plate appearances better, 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.680 they have to defend better, and they're just not doing that. 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:24.960 But in this case, like they're hitting actually better on 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:28.560 the road, Like that's not necessarily the problem. So that's 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.000 the first place I looked, And that's not the issue. 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:35.640 They are, you know, at least of late they're playing 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:38.960 decent teams on the road, or you have good teams 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:41.840 like the Yankees and Phillies, like that's you know, and 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:44.119 we're trying to figure out this new like White Sox. 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:46.599 But then they lost, you know, a series against the Twins. 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:49.200 They lost the series against the Giants, so like, it's 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:53.720 it's been longer running than that. The one number that 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.680 jumped out to me, like the pitching is the big disparity, 0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:01.000 and that's what's confusing, just because you would that if 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:04.600 pitching staff, it's that can give if the homer would 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.160 get in trouble, they'd have problems at home as much 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:08.880 as they would in the road. But actually they're pitching 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:13.040 better at home. So like, the one thing I wonder 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:17.360 is looking at the babbit batting average on balls and 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:21.200 play forty points higher on the road. So I'm curious, 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:23.920 you know, that could be luck. That could be you know, 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:26.520 it's a small sample. It's less than half a season 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:30.880 divided into half seasons, so it's it can be a 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:33.720 little bit wonky. But part of me wondered, if you 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:38.320 have younger players and perhaps this outfield that's been kind 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:41.400 of a mishmash all year, does it change the way 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:45.000 they're defending, does it change the way they're positioned to 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:49.760 where the pitching staff is not getting its usual support. Yeah, 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:51.680 I looked at this just out of curiosity, see if 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:53.640 it was a weird right field thing. Now, the batting 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.120 average on balls and play is pretty even for hitting 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.760 for the White Sox batters home and away, but on 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:02.720 the he ha's like two sixty AT's home, it's three 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.320 oh seven on the road for batting average balls and 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:08.080 play a lot more hits, a lot more longer at bats. 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.240 So that could not Yeah, maybe it's not defense, but 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:14.120 it could be you know, who knows, like just you know, 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:21.040 besides luck, it could be pitchers being perhaps because they're trailing, 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.400 they put in their front in the bullpen, or they 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:26.440 have starters or eating it just because they have to 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:30.920 get an inning where you know they're not. You normally 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.520 wouldn't have them in if they are leading, and so 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:37.000 just games get away from them because they're already trailing 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:38.920 and you don't use your better pittures while trailing. It 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:42.560 could be just a simple matter of that. But if 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:45.840 you're looking for like something more concrete or something I'll 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:47.400 be paying attention to just to see like is there 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:50.280 anything there. That's one thing that jumped out to me, 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:53.680 just with maybe outs not being converted and just because 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:58.080 the pitching staff isn't elite, you know, it's still young, 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:04.560 still uneven. Yeah, we're watching guys go through first full seasons. Uh, 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:08.120 could be a case where you know, it's it's just noise. 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:11.720 But maybe they need you know, great defense or all 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:14.520 the defense the White Sox can provide them, and when 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:16.760 they don't, it gets kind of hairy. That's really like 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:20.400 a theory all throughout there. Not necessarily what I believe, 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:23.560 but something I noticed and can think of some moments 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.000 kind of flashing before my eyes of just like, yeah, 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:30.080 the defense, maybe uh wasn't that great so or there 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:33.520 was some miscommunication in the gaps by the walls, et cetera. 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:36.679 But yeah, it could also just be a noise from 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:38.120 lesser pitchers being used. 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:41.560 With the whole bab up stat like three oho seven 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:45.960 seems to be closer to normal. Jim, the two sixty 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:50.360 at home, that's a surprising number to me. Like I 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:54.599 fear regression to the mean would be coming for the 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:55.880 White Sox pitchers at home. 0:08:57.480 --> 0:08:58.839 It could be you know, I have to look at it, 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:00.640 but it could be a case where just rate field 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:03.480 being a smaller field, harder to drop hits in. Okay, 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.760 I buy that. Yeah, Like you know, some like Corus 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.400 Field because the outfield's massive, that's why the batting average 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:14.720 is so inflated. But with rate field being uh, you know, symmetrical, 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:20.240 being no weird gaps to cover and the alleys are 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:23.079 pretty small, like it's bad park for triples. Also, you know, 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.400 not a great park for batting, average, great park for homer's, 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:28.319 great park, or a good park for offense overall because 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:31.240 of the homers. But if you're not hitting homers, then 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:34.240 maybe it's a little harder to especially as defenses get better, 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:38.959 positioning gets better, harder to really just get those hits 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:39.920 when you need a hit. 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:47.480 So other than the annoyance of not being confident anymore, 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:50.400 when the White Sox on the road, it's like, what 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:54.120 an amazing week four and one against the Atlanta Braves 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:58.120 in Los Angeles, Dodgers, Wow, turn that around one in 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.960 five against the Yanke He's and Todd getting swept by 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:05.400 the Tigers after not getting swept by the Yankees is 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.640 very disappointing. And if you didn't get a chance to 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:11.560 watch the series. The opening game, the White Sox actually 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:15.360 had a lead against Derek Scuolball. I know everyone pays 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:18.760 attention to the verbal spat that was going on between 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:24.320 school bull and injured pitcher slash clubhouse wizard Mike Vassel, 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.120 but the White Sox had a three to two lead, 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:32.000 Tristan Peters made a defensive blunder. Tigers end up winning 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:35.120 that game board at three. That's a disappointing loss. The 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.880 next day, Sam Antonaci had the lead off homer. 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:38.640 That's it. 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.080 That's pretty much the extend of the offense. The White 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:44.719 Sox lost four to one, and then on Sunday. This 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:48.520 leads into the bullpen concerns because Davis Martin I thought 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:53.040 Jim had a nice bounce back start. Sure, the strikeout 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.959 to walk rate not great. I think he had four 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:59.240 strikeouts to three walks. He did have to deal with 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.400 some traffic, but he only allowed one run over six 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:06.960 innings on seventy seven pitches and a two run lead 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:12.040 for Ryan Hudson, Grant Taylor, and Sir Antony Dominguz. Those 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:15.240 are the three best relievers Jim that Will Venable has 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:15.880 right now. 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:18.360 Hudson did his job. 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:22.760 But Grant Taylor again allowed another home run, and Sir 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:26.439 Anthony Domingus he got the first two guys out, but 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:30.520 then he stumbles, allows an infield single and then things 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:34.400 just start coming apart again on Sir Antony Dominguez. So 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:37.920 with Grant Taylor and Siranty Domingez kind of having really 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:40.280 rough outings the last couple of times have been out there. 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:45.200 Do you have concerns with Grant Taylor and Sir Antony Dominguz. 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:50.760 Have I think a case where Dimingas is somebody who's 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:55.560 hit the ceiling of setup. Man As somebody with good stuff, 0:11:55.720 --> 0:12:02.000 but platoon concerns and command concern and so like, that's 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.240 why he's typically been used in the eighth inning of 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.480 a team. Doesn't have to use him in the ninth 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.000 just because you can use him against righty's, you can 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:12.400 use them. He's at the last line of defense. You 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:16.480 can have somebody warming the bullpen, a left handed component 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:20.920 ready in the bullpen if needed to, where you know 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:22.920 it's not an insult if you pull him, versus in 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:25.679 the ninth. Typically don't have somebody warming up when the 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:29.080 closers in the game. And so there's this general concern 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:32.679 about Domingas. If the splitter wasn't what he needed to 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:37.360 neutralize lefties enough, then he has problems in this case. 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:40.760 Like the mistake was a sweeper, he had Dingler in 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:43.439 a one to two counts. The fastball did what it 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:47.880 should have done in terms of getting behind. He was 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:50.480 chasing away like all he had to do. And this 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:51.920 is very simple, but in terms of like you can 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:53.760 understand the thought process. It wasn't the case where he 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:55.640 had to execute a pitch that he doesn't really excute 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:58.719 that often. Sweeper is a good pitch for him. Just 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.040 had to get off the plates, left it up, elevated 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.760 on the outer third Dingler smash it. So like that's 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:09.280 execution error versus like the weakness of Dominga's wearing its 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:12.439 ugly head. Also, he had like the infield single by 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:15.920 a hair of a step that you kept the ending going. 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:17.440 So a little bit of bad luck, a little bit 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:19.960 of you know, McGonagall beating him, and then a little 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:26.040 bit of just mortality or just uh, decent hitter beating 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:30.280 a decent picture because it happens in baseball, and when 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:32.520 it happens the ninth inning, it's under the microscope. And 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.400 Dominga's like when you put them under the microscope, there 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.520 are things you notice that aren't that flattering, and then 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:41.360 when you zoom out you still notice them. So that's why, 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:43.840 like you know, the white sox on in the contract 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.679 they signed him to, which is kind of the contract 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:48.439 that's a bet on somebody who might be able to 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.680 close versus a proven closer versus like son of Mag's 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:55.160 established as a setup guy. So yeah, you have concerns 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:58.080 about him just hitting that ceiling over and over again. 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:03.920 Taylor is like weird just because he has these characteristics 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.559 James writes about of just you know, he has this 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:10.319 great stuff. He has a starter's arsenal, he's got extension. 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:14.199 The individual pitches great out well, and sometimes like he 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:17.800 just gets burned, like whether it's a homer, whether it's 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.960 you know again batting avergement balls to play like sequencing 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:26.480 bad luck week hits, you know, solid hits. There's this 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:28.520 element of like why is it come together? Why is 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:31.000 he why is he have reverse splits somehow? Like there's 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:34.600 there are these kind of components that just never quite 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:38.240 fit and it's hard to know. I think, you know, 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:41.320 having James on hand to write about pictures, it's a 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:42.840 little bit of a double edged sword because like he 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.760 still get a drilling down, uh, And I don't think 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.920 many teams have somebody covering them who drills down to 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:53.520 pictures to where is the case where do all elite 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.600 relievers have weird things going on? That just aren't being 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:59.320 explored because their savorr it's okay. Or is the case 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:04.880 where Taylor does have some strange characteristics that are maybe 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.560 unique to him or unique to his the strength of 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:11.360 his arsenal just you know, and also his youth relative 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:15.480 and experience relieving that you know it's there are some 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.640 warts or lumps he takes when he tries to put 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.840 it all together over the course of a full season. 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:25.040 So you know, it's sticks out in my head, I 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:28.280 should say, of like when the failures come up, like well, 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:32.080 you know, he does have reverse splits somehow, and you know, like, yeah, 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:35.200 it does have to locate the curveball. If lefties are 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.680 spitting on the curveball, then you know, perhaps the fastball 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:42.920 becomes more you know, vulnerable. Yeah it's Taylor. I'm still 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.240 trying to figure out for a number, because it seems 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:48.440 like he's trying to figure himself out for whittling down 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:52.320 his arsenal and handling relievers. Could be a case too, 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:54.560 where like a mid season wall, little bits of just 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.440 league figuring my little bit stuff isn't as sharp and 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:00.760 so they can game plan from a little bit better. 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:05.080 Mistakes get hit harder. I would say I have more 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:08.480 faith in Taylor figuring it out versus Dimingas because Dominga's' 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:14.640 flaws are well established and every team that's used him 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:16.800 as closers kind of wrestled with this a little bit. 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:22.800 But both I think have a cause for concern. Yeah, 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:28.360 not like severe, I would say lingering cause for concern 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:32.680 that the pieces don't quite fit right, especially if like 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:37.120 Taylor's being used for multiple innings then is unavailable and 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:40.600 Dimingus more has to be the guy that, yeah, he 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:45.200 has weaknesses being so yet it's it's not an elite bullpen. 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:50.720 And when the office is scoring, then did the the 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:54.240 scrutiny intensifies simply like Hudson when he had that rough 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.480 patch of just like well, he has been DFAD an 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:01.480 awful lot in his career. It's where you know, all 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:03.840 of a sudden, him showing up in this lockdown lefty 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.600 form is new, and when he regression sets in, you 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:10.040 think like, oh, oh is turning to pumpkin, and like, no, 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:13.000 he's fine, He's just good not greats. And so sometimes 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:15.600 I think with Taylor there's also a case where he's 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:21.720 good not greats and then just having this sudden contending 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:28.359 level of scrutiny and slimmer margin for error or the 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:31.760 errors that are made are felt more. That's new and 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:32.720 we'll see how they handle it. 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:38.000 I think with Domingez, my take on this situation in 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:43.119 he told James Spgan during that excellent piece about the 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:45.720 bullpen that you could read on soxsmachine dot com, is 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:49.520 that Dimingus really wants every save opportunity. But moving forward, 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:51.639 I don't know how Will Venable trusts him to do 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:56.640 that his last two outings against the Dodgers and the Tigers, 0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:59.640 I should say, in his last two save opportunities, because 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:02.240 he did on Saturday, just to get some work in. 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:05.920 It's been to Alex Colomelake. 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:10.480 I continue to use this phrase because he just continues 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:15.360 to put base runners on And it was the same situation, Jim, 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:19.399 It's seven eighty nine. If you can't trust Sir Anthony 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:22.480 Domingus to face the bottom of the order in any 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:26.159 medium to high leverage late inning situation, what do you 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:29.920 do with this guy? And I don't know if I'm 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:32.040 Will Venable, I don't know how I can have any 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:35.840 confidence in Dimingus. You're still gonna need him with his 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.480 home stand against two Ale Central opponents. 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:41.360 Maybe you bitch him in the seventh, maybe you bitch 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:41.960 him in the eighth. 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:45.840 You do risk of him getting upset that he's not 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.600 getting save opportunities because that's why he signed with the 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.560 White Sox and that's what he was sold on. And 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:55.040 maybe you do have grant Taylor pitch that ninth inning. 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:58.040 There are White Sox fans though that after Sunday's game 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:01.080 thought Taylor should have pitched two innings because he's not 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:05.840 pitching all that frequently. Jim, and I'm under the impression 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:09.480 that Venable did not pushe Taylor into the ninth inning. 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:12.679 So he has Taylor available to use either a Monday 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:16.880 or Tuesday against Cleveland. You might be able to only 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:21.240 use Taylor a couple times a week. So I don't 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:25.120 know how Venable handles this moving forward, but I don't 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:27.520 think it's a Venable issue. It's just that Taylor and 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:31.440 Domingas need to do their job, especially Sir Anthony Domingus, 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:33.439 because if this continues and you don't have a lot 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:36.240 of confidence in what Dimingas can do in medium or 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:39.119 to high level situations during the season, I don't know 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:39.959 how you use him. 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:41.560 It just feels like it's ten million dollars. 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:42.520 It's a complete waste. 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:45.480 Well, I think with Dominga is like it was fine 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:48.560 having him close because it was the bottom of the order, right. 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:53.080 They shape these saves to where Taylor faces the tougher 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:56.360 part or maybe the lefties, and then when the ninth 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:59.440 inning rolls run, oftentimes ninth innings do roll around to 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:02.639 the bottom the order just because of the way you know, 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:06.280 twenty seven outs rolls. Is that oftentimes, in an average 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.800 game with an average number of plate appearances, the bottom 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:11.440 of the order comes up last, and so there will 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:14.600 be saved situations. What's weird to me about Domingas is 0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:17.720 like the number of days off he's had this month, 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:20.119 Like you know, looking at the day's rest, like this 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:23.040 was the first time he's pitched with like one day's rest. 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:26.359 Otherwise it's like five three. He's pitched on back to 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:29.000 back days once and then had another three days rest 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:31.760 and another four days rest, so he's been infrequently used. 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:33.960 Even going back to last month too, he had six 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:36.960 days rest at one point. So you get the situation 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:39.680 of like if it is rust or if it is 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:43.880 a case where you know he doesn't get many Yeah, 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:48.400 and the roles he was previously working in, Like he'd 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:50.200 just be working as a set up guys. Sometimes they'd 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:52.280 be trailing by one, sometimes they'd be ahead by one, 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:55.080 and so he'd work more regularly. Whereas when they're trying 0:20:55.119 --> 0:21:00.440 to shoehorn shoehorn them into these ideal closer situations, or 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:02.760 maybe they have him backing up Taylor, but then Taylor 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:04.520 ends up going two winnings and they don't need him. 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:07.400 You do get a case where like he doesn't pitch 0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:10.200 so like in terms of innings because he's missed time 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:14.560 with injuries here and there. He's not off his usual 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:19.600 innings total, but you know from last year when he 0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:21.919 was healthy and especially for the postseason, like, he does 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:25.200 like to work. And so I wonder if because of 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:29.320 this like level of distrust with him as the closer, 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:33.080 but also not wanting to relegate him to seventh inning 0:21:33.119 --> 0:21:37.719 appearances when you know they'd be normally Sir Anthony Diminga 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:40.640 is shaped in previous seasons. But you can't quite save 0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:43.000 him that because then they're saying you're not the closer. Uh, 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:45.159 And then like the ninth in things don't roll around 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:47.320 and like he can't be used for those either because 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:49.600 Taylor's available, or you want your lefty in there instead. 0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:53.000 You might get situations where you just don't pitch him enough, 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:55.359 and so he does come in these situations where it 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:58.560 has to work and then it doesn't quite work. So 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:02.040 I think it's maybe overall a little bit of an 0:22:02.040 --> 0:22:05.480