1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there with Elizabeth Perkins and we are 2 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: inventing shoe glue, something we had talked about for a 3 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: long time. You know how it takes so long to 4 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: fix up your whole shoe, the string, the messy string. Yeah, 5 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: this is of course special glue where you take these pieces, 6 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: the shoe pieces, and you attach them to each other. 7 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: It would be a cobbler's best friend, thank you. So 8 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: this is what we were saying. The cobbler the job 9 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: as it is is so difficult, but with a special glue, 10 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: they only have to do it once and then it's 11 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: always on. And then you go to sleep. You don't 12 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: want to sleep in with your shoe getting everywhere, so 13 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: you put the special bag on it. Right. 14 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: So a couple of things that come up for me 15 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: as possible issues. 16 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: Do you glue? Do you end up gluing your hands 17 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 1: to your feet? So Elizabeth did do that a couple 18 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: of times. She developed a sort of way of moving 19 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: around after that. Right, Okay, that was actually very you know, 20 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: she's like a very physical actress. 21 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: She's a tumbler. I mean you can see that that's 22 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: in her background. 23 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: Yes, And so she was able to incorporate that into 24 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: Wilma Flintstone. If you remember Wilma Flintstone's hands I'm remembering 25 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,279 Speaker 1: now are attached to kind of the heels of her feet. 26 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: But she was like, oh, this is like caveman stuff. 27 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: And it worked. It actually really did work. 28 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: It worked really well for me. And that's why that 29 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 2: movie is what it is. I mean, this is like 30 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: a cultural touchstone. 31 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: Yes, so we did end up using We didn't have 32 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: regular glue. We use soda. Soda we've discovered becoming get 33 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: when it gets on your hands, when it's when it 34 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: gets hot. So it's hot soda. It's pepsi twist, which 35 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: at the time people were really talking about what what 36 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: else can we do with this stuff? We were finding 37 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: new uses for pepsi twist. At the time, it was 38 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: like a very exciting discovery. 39 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: Well but yes, I when when pepsi twists first emerged 40 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: for our younger listeners or for people who just don't remember, 41 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: we knew we were onto something. We had something big 42 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: and we were happy, but we knew it didn't end it. 43 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: Are we just gonna drink this? Yeah? It was the 44 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: diet sprite remix of its time. Yes, that's right, So 45 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: we finished the shoe, we realized we have our shoes 46 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: are stuck to each other's shoes. Mm hmm. So we 47 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: are sort of a rat king, of course, are you 48 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: familiar with that? Yes, when all. 49 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: You you know, you sort of cast all the rats 50 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: into the same area, saying like, get rid and we'll 51 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 2: get rid of this, we'll get rid of this, and 52 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: then they sort of emerge now as a giant ball 53 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: of one huge powerful rat comprised of all the many 54 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: sort of peasants that you cast out. 55 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: Yes, And then of course other people see us doing this, 56 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: and then they all start doing it too, and we 57 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: get huge. We become this huge ball. Yeah, it's sort 58 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: of like a flash mob. Yeah. So that was improv everywhere. 59 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: That was the beginning of improv everywhere. Hey, welcome to 60 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: Hollywood Handbook and Insider's Guide to kicking button dropping in 61 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: the red carpet line, back hallways. In this industry we 62 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: call showbiz. We love uh performers, we love stand ups, 63 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: we love laughing, we love hosts, we love writers, we 64 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: love book writers, we love television writers. Smart stuff. And 65 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: what if I was and it's what if I was 66 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: talking about I need to get fifty guests to have 67 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: all those things, but what if and so this could 68 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: actually we're not going to fit all those guests. So 69 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: imagine this. What if all those people could be one 70 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: person and it's one guy and his actual name is 71 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: also guy. So that's a little riddle. I wonder if this, 72 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: like if we think about who this could be, and 73 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: maybe someone in the room has an answer for who? 74 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: What this the answer to the riddle? Mm hmmm. 75 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: Can you say hello? I am Guy Brandham. I am 76 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 3: a television writer, a television host, stand up comedian, periodically performer. 77 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: And may I just say getting a hand cobbled shoe these. 78 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: Days, oh my god. 79 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: I mean it's hard with all of these mass produced 80 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 3: Chinese shoes flooding the market. 81 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: Yes, we don't like to weigh in on what is 82 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: I mean? 83 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: But also with the coming trade war, we have to 84 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 3: be prepared to meet America's needs on our own. Yes, 85 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: and I'm really excited that you're doing more to increase 86 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 3: like domestic shoe production. But you know, when I get 87 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 3: a hand cobbled shoe, I want the nails. I want 88 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 3: the little nails that are attaching the soul to I 89 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 3: just feel like there would be I would feel incomplete 90 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: with a glued. 91 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: Shoe of costhmatic nails. I just want to say, just 92 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: the top part you can glue on, doesn't have the 93 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: pointy part, which is in my opinion, the worst part 94 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: of the nail. It has the top that glues on, 95 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: so it looks like it's stabbing through there. But I 96 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: can always tell. I can always tell. 97 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 2: And I think having the full nail is status thing, 98 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: and I think maybe it's time to let that go. 99 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 3: It really, I mean that's fair. I want to say 100 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 3: I'm worth this much nickel, you know, And maybe that's 101 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: me just being consumed in capitalism. 102 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we have to sort of recalibrate the 103 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 2: way we think about brands and how important it's been 104 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: traditionally to be the guy who has the nails in 105 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: your shoes so that everybody knows, you. 106 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: Know, or just like a blob of like raw nickel. Yeah, 107 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: and to convert into into nail. This is not something 108 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: that everyone in the know. The economy the way it 109 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: is now, like not everyone has like the sheer nickel 110 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: to to make nails out of it. 111 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 2: I'm as guilty of it as everyone where, you know, obviously, 112 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 2: I had the chain with the big hunk of nickel 113 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 2: hanging off of it, and I would sort of, you know, 114 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 2: show up to the shoe store. 115 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 3: Can I ask you boys a question? There's been a 116 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 3: lot of talk recently about universal basic nickel Alexandria Cossio Cortez, 117 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: Bernie Sanders, and I say, do you think that that's 118 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 3: a good idea? It's going to stop people from working 119 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: hard to get the nickel you need. 120 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: So this is interesting. I watch I watch Alexandra Cortez. Yes, 121 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: I watch her to like do this thing, and to me, 122 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: it's like it's a big it's a good show, you know, 123 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: It's like it's like she's a great like performer. 124 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 2: I think the character is interesting. You're sort of crazy. Yes, 125 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 2: the stuff they're doing is so wild. I go like, okay, 126 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 2: what's next? You know? 127 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: Yes, but so I noticed that that, like where the 128 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: money is actually coming from, she won't say, and she's 129 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: not holding it. You know, if she were really ready 130 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: to back this up, like spending money on all these programs, 131 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: she would be like having it in her hands to 132 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: show me. But people are like where is it? And 133 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: she's like, oh, I guess it's somewhere else, Well, it's 134 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: tied up in key I don't have it on me 135 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: right now. It's tied up in electronic keyboards. Alexandra Cassio Cortez. 136 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: I mean, she's another one of these limousine liberals who 137 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: just because she grew up with all of that keyboard money, 138 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 3: thinks that everything you know does it. She's not thinking 139 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: about how it's gonna be paid for. I personally wasn't 140 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 3: that like analytical about her work early on, because I 141 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 3: just assumed she was a Sasha Baron Cohen character, of course, 142 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: getting in people's faces saying ridiculous things like everyone should 143 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: have healthcare. I thought, just a provocateur. 144 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: But then I did notice eventually I sort of thought 145 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: that too. But then I noticed that her face wasn't 146 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: like visibly melting off, which is lately a lot of 147 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: his characters have this interesting quality, which is that their 148 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: faces are huge, they look like they have multiple layers 149 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: of face under them, and they're the heat of the 150 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: light is making them a slip off the head. Well, 151 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: it's an interesting thing too, where a lot. 152 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: Of his characters have made the choice to clearly wear 153 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: a mask, you know, So it's like I think they've 154 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 2: done hours of makeup to create this new character, and 155 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: the character with who he's completely transformed, goes time to 156 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: put my mask on and he sort of clumsily half 157 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 2: applies it. Yeah, which I guess people do. 158 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 3: That, right, Yeah, well, aren't we all wearing masks? 159 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: Okay this again, Yeah we are. 160 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's tough with the Cassio, with the Casio woman, 161 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: just because if you grew up like me and Hayes, 162 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: we grew up in the Bronx and you had to 163 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 2: make your own samba one beat or samba two or 164 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 2: your marimba sound or ocarina sound. You couldn't just hit 165 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: a little keep trash candlids. 166 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: Brooms, these were our instruments. 167 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 3: I mean, we actually don't talk that much about the 168 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: extent to which nineteen seventies nineteen eighties electronics were appropriating 169 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 3: the experiences of other cultures, you know, like really just 170 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 3: sort of reaching out and saying, well, samba belongs to. 171 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: Me now, Yes, that's right. And the demo song that 172 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: would play when you had the demo button on the 173 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: keyboard was a traditional song of for me and. 174 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 2: Trump, Yes, that had been ours. We came up with 175 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: that with brooms, Yes, trash candlids, a sponge that we 176 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 2: would squeeze close to the mic. You know, it's beautiful, 177 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 2: like you can imagine the sound that would make find 178 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: your sound? 179 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: So do you ever feel like like is really just 180 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 3: a picture of what your childhood was like? That the 181 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 3: Broadway show Stomp? 182 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 4: Sure? 183 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: Are you thinking of Shrek? Oh? 184 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 3: Shrek? 185 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: Shrek does does stop? Yes, he stops around. He's an 186 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 2: ogret and he is also I think in some ways 187 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 2: a good representation of how Hayes and I felt was 188 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 2: that no one truly saw us for who we were. 189 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: And I guess the other Broadway show I really like 190 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,239 Speaker 2: is the one with the animals. 191 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 3: In the Heights. 192 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes. 193 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 3: That was really a terrible choice for a bad answer 194 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: to that improv because it sounds terribly face. 195 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: Do you want to well, do you want to just 196 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: walk it back while we have time? That was what 197 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: I assumed, Yes, yeah was, and Sean did say yes, 198 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: so do you want to now? Like, do me back 199 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: it up? 200 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 2: I guess right, Well, so for anyone who hasn't seen 201 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: in the Heights, it's this amazing that you know exhibits 202 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: this beautiful culture. But what you don't know if you 203 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: haven't had backstage passes like me, a guy, is that 204 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: just off stage every time a character exits the scene 205 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: therein they are playing with turtles and stuff, and so 206 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: that to me is the Broadway play with the animals. 207 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: Oh so you guys were that being We just love 208 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: how sweet they are with their little turtles. 209 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 3: I I'm sorry, I'm I'm bad at improv. 210 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: Well, you'll fit right in here. 211 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 3: The Paragua Man it was actually like a really daring innovation. 212 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 3: They cast a dolphin to play human character. It was 213 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 3: one of the first times you ever saw. 214 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: I think you're thinking of Portugal the Man. 215 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 3: Oh, Portugal the Man. He is a pretty of great 216 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: pop hits and also a very fine country since they 217 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 3: got rid of the Salazar regime in the seventies. 218 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 5: Hmm. 219 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's say you talk about that a lot 220 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: in your memoir. 221 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 3: Oh hey, so you think you're making hilarious jokes. And 222 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 3: let's be clear, the Salazar regime does not come up 223 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 3: in my memoir. But they're like extinct species from Minorca 224 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 3: and Majorca do show up in my memoir. 225 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: They show up. 226 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 3: They show up as characters, well just sort of footnotes. 227 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 3: I like periodically I decide that I need to explain 228 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: something about my life with a reference that may not 229 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: make sense to absolutely everyone. So then I explained it 230 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 3: a lot in my book My Life is a Goddess. 231 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 3: Available on shelves today. 232 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 1: They could have been interesting narrators. Oh, some of these species, 233 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: because these are like they're in heaven and stuff. Huh, 234 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: be like the beginning of its wonderful life and heaven 235 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: for these creatures looking down at guy and they're sort 236 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: of watching your interesting life. 237 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 3: I mean that feels like a bold step from like 238 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 3: like respectable literature that hasn't been taken yet. I agree, 239 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: having like now extinct creatures narrates. Dang story. I feel 240 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 3: like you've almost won the Booker Prize, Hayes. It really 241 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 3: just takes pen and paper. But it's just called the 242 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 3: book Price. It's it's a booker is someone who writes 243 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 3: a book. Yes, but this one, this prize is just 244 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 3: called book Price. Actually I believe it's now called the 245 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 3: Man Book Prize. 246 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: Well now it can be anyone. 247 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: Oh really, yes, Oh that's exciting. 248 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: Yes, this is starting now. Thank good luck. Everybody get 249 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: in there now. Everyone's like, okay, here we go. Like 250 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: gonna be a stampede, become a booker. H your book 251 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: so exciting, Thank you so much, so many adventures. 252 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 3: Yes, it is about me being sad in northern cal 253 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 3: and reading a lot and thinking a lot. And then 254 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: sometimes I talk about TV or movies that I watched 255 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 3: and the beach. 256 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: You go to the beach. 257 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 3: I don't really talk about going to the beach, but 258 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 3: I do love this. 259 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: It's kind of implied, it's very strongly implied that you're 260 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: at the beach, you're near the beach. 261 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 3: I mean it takes place in California, so it is 262 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 3: a fundamentally coastal experience. It is something where sea air 263 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 3: infuses everything that's going on. But it really is sort 264 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: of the hydrological cycle from the Pacific Ocean to the 265 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 3: Sierra Nevada Mountains that really runs things. Because I grew 266 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 3: up in the Sacramento Valley, So it is that process 267 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 3: of evaporation and precipitation which allows all of the fruit 268 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: trees to grow and my homeland to be flooded and 269 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 3: be full of rich soil and a lot of there's 270 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 3: a lot of agriculture. For a celebrity memoir. 271 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: Now, Sacramento of course is kind of in the cultural ether. 272 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: Now with the movie Brad Status, Uh huh you talk 273 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: about has that? Do you feel like Brad's Status has 274 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: taken some of your individual Sacramento experience or was. 275 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 2: It like watching your own life unfold on the screen. 276 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 3: I personally was electrified because as a game end, when 277 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 3: I see a movie called Brad's Status, I assume that 278 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 3: this is going to be a heartfelt contemplation of a 279 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 3: person living with HIV. And let's be honest, it is 280 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 3: no longer a death sentence. It is a situation that 281 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: you live with. It is no longer necessarily a tragedy. 282 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 3: I was excited to see that Ben Stiller was there 283 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 3: and that we were going to tell a triumphant story 284 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 3: of brad Status. And then it was about a kid 285 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 3: getting into college. Uh, and I didn't watch it. 286 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: Don't don't spoil. I don't know if he gets into college. 287 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: I've only seen the first I. 288 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: Just assume everyone I know gets screeners, you know, so. 289 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, in fact, I do get the screeners. 290 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: What I don't get is how they work. 291 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 292 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: Uh, you know, I kind of doesn't come with directions, 293 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: at least that I have been able to see. 294 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm reading them, and you know, put I put 295 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: them on the screen, like shove them up against the 296 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: front of the screen, and they're doing nothing for me. 297 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 3: You you hit the little you hit the little microphone 298 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 3: thing on your Apple TV remote and you say Apple 299 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 3: TV screener, and then it figures it out for you 300 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: and you look through the hole, the little hole at 301 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 3: the end. 302 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: To see that it's not in the end. Actually it's 303 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: in I guess kind of at the end, but it's 304 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: in like the middle part. You're saying the middle part, yes, 305 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: to see the should I should be clear too. 306 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 2: I don't often have the remote because I am in 307 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: a restaurant when I'm doing this, Okay, I don't have 308 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: a TV in my home. 309 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: Very few places will give up control of the remote. 310 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll change the channel for you, but they won't 311 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: necessarily say like here you go go nuts. 312 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 3: I think consuming media communally is a beautiful choice. I mean, 313 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 3: we are so isolated in our lives these days. 314 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: Thank you. 315 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: When you know I want to watch the State of 316 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 3: the Union at a gin, I think, you know, being 317 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 3: surrounded by my you know, angelinos who are not wearing 318 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 3: who are not wealthy enough to be at equinox, but 319 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 3: are too wealthy to be a twenty four hour fitness 320 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 3: and hearing them cheering, reacting while on ellipticals, that's what 321 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: I want. 322 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: It's really firing them. 323 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 2: Up to I literally do have so fat that exact experience. 324 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 2: During the initial results of the election this year, I 325 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: was on an elliptical while as individual states got called 326 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: for Trump, a man two ellipticals away from me. 327 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: Would go yes. 328 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: So that happened to me in the Hollywood equinox. 329 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 3: And you didn't. You didn't punch him, and you are 330 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 3: thus complicit in our current eyes, I think. 331 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 2: So I was like, I was thinking, what do I do? 332 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: Like, what would I do? I don't like this? Why 333 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: are you what was strange? Why are you comfortable doing that? 334 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 3: But also your let's let's be fair here, Okay, I 335 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 3: can't let this go by. You're the one who went 336 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 3: to an equinox. Okay, You're the one who said, like, 337 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 3: will I get buddy with the people, or will I 338 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 3: put myself in, you know, an economically restrictive space. And 339 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,959 Speaker 3: you can't be surprised that this man was wanting, you know, 340 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 3: a tax cut for the highest like income brackets. So 341 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 3: that he can afford, you know, even more Keels products 342 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 3: at Equinox. 343 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: I guess that's right. 344 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: I guess I'm I'm more like him than I am 345 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: like the people do. 346 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 3: I have to say? Your eye skin is amazing. The 347 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 3: products that they are giving you are. 348 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: Working the keels. Yeah, the Keel's eye butter that gives 349 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: you more liquid in your eye. I didn't realize before 350 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: how little, uh like, there's almost no butter in your eyes. 351 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: There was in there and it was just very water. 352 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: It wasn't creamy at all. 353 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 3: Nothing's more useful than having like full luscious like for 354 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 3: for lack of a better term, zoft egg eyes. 355 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: You know, yes, wonderful curves now mmmm, yes, we do 356 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: want to do something with you, guy, if you have 357 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: just one second, if one second, I've got the time. 358 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: I know you have other shows to do. What other 359 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: shows are you doing to promote this book? Oh? 360 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 3: I am doing all of your favorite podcasts, throwing shade, 361 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 3: love it or leave it? Those one where I talked 362 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 3: about God. After this, I'm doing Ian Carmel's thing where 363 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: I'm going to draft Canadians. 364 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: You gonna make it weird, guy? 365 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 3: Oh wait, oh no, I have weird. 366 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: You never mad it weird. 367 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 3: I've never made it weird. I have to I have 368 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 3: not been able to go through sort of like the 369 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 3: big respectable like white males, heterosexuals, cis gendered stand up 370 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 3: comedian asking questions and then gently talking about his own 371 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 3: career sort of you know, like icons episode, the icons 372 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 3: of of podcastry. I've really had to work my way 373 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 3: through a quirky ear set. And I have to say, 374 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 3: having two strapping heterosexual white men hosting a show that 375 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 3: I am doing makes me ask the question, what have 376 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: you guys done wrong? Okay, that's right, Why aren't you 377 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 3: part of that sort of like exalted strata of podcasts 378 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 3: that I'm not able to get on. 379 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: We don't strap ourselves for every show. That is something 380 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: we are doing just for this one because we have 381 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: a new engineer and just to remove some of the 382 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: variables for her Jordan, where like we're strapped in because 383 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: other like we don't want to have her like tracking 384 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: us around the room right as we like do our 385 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: big physical bits. This one we are keeping it in 386 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: the chair a little more contained. 387 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 4: It was really hard to strap you guys in, Like 388 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 4: you wouldn't stop. 389 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: Moving, Okay, wells for you, Thank you. 390 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 3: Okay, So I just want to say it an earthquake state. 391 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: Safe, So saying well, yes, can we talk a little 392 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 2: bit about what you can and can't have hanging on 393 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 2: the wall right behind your bed in an earthquake state? 394 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 3: Absolutely, as a native California And I think it's one 395 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 3: of those things that Sacramento having a moment in popular 396 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 3: culture is really raising awareness of, is what should or 397 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 3: shouldn't you have hanging above your bed. 398 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: I have an upside down Rhinocero's head, which I've told 399 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: in an earthquake situation could be very unsafe. 400 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 3: Now have a question for Gore me is this but 401 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 3: is this one of those rhinos who has had their 402 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 3: horn medically removed so that people will not kill him 403 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 3: for Chinese medicine purposes or does it still have the horn? 404 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: It has a new horn. Oh that I give it. Huh, 405 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: it came without it. But it's new horn is a 406 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: party hat. 407 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: Oh it's adorable. 408 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: Isn't that cute? 409 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 3: So I have to say, if like, it would be 410 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 3: really great to have a real rhino horn just above 411 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 3: the bed so that you could use the erection, the 412 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 3: Chinese medicine erection giving powers that it has. Just go 413 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 3: with a little like microplane and grass. 414 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: A little little nutmeg grater. 415 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and just right into your mouth, right and then 416 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: go to town. 417 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, right before you go, Hey, just give me 418 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 2: one second and then you kind of get up and 419 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: just start like non on the horn. 420 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: It could be pretty cool. Can we just do the 421 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: thing that we wanted just for one second? 422 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 3: Guy? 423 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: Okay, we just do this one second? Yeah, Okay. We 424 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: have this guy here whose name is Chef Kevin. He's 425 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: really basic. He is the most boring basic burger pitch 426 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: who has ever lived. 427 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's a total herb. 428 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: Yes, you're familiar with the concept of a of a herb. 429 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 3: I'm not. 430 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: Okay, you will be in one second, okay, But we 431 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: need ways to profit off of him. As part of 432 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: this show. We put his face on an apron. The 433 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: apron has not been selling very well, so we see, oh, 434 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: guys doing a good piece of business with this memoir. 435 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: Maybe we get Kevin to do his little memoir as well. 436 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 2: The memoir ultimately would really be an advertisement for the apron. 437 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: Yes, which we're underwater on. 438 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 3: You guys all floated a chutney line. 439 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: Oh that could be really interesting, and then they get 440 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 1: the chutney on the apron, they have to get a 441 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: new apron. 442 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: We intentionally make the chutney too messy and maybe don't 443 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: put the jar lid on all the way. 444 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: That could be pretty cool. 445 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 3: That's really smart. 446 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: Okay, let's but let's play out them. So we probably 447 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: will just do the chutney now. 448 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: But let's we don't even need to do the rest 449 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 2: of the episode really, because he kind of already sawd it. 450 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: Let's let's do Kevin's memoir thing justin Deren and Bosha's 451 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: upset and he's sitting down. I could see him sitting 452 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: down even though he knows that he's going to come in. 453 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: Are you meditating out there? 454 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 2: Like? 455 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: I see you sitting just staring at nothing. 456 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 4: Hey, guys, chef Kevin here. Yeah, the screen is not on. Technically, 457 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 4: it is to help get me in a little more 458 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 4: relaxed headspace before I come in here. 459 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: Okay, that's that we would prefer you be more like up. Okay, 460 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: it's interesting that you think that's what you should be doing, 461 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: is to be like like somehow come in at a 462 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: lower energy than you normally do. Yeah, I mean you've 463 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: heard the episodes. 464 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: Right when you're hearing yourself speaking, are you thinking, man, 465 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: I gotta tone this down. 466 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: That's a good point. 467 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 4: No, I've I guess I've never thought that, but I've 468 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 4: thought maybe because I've been meditating. 469 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: I've it's I'm relaxed. Now you should be doing suicides. 470 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: That's a lot. 471 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 4: And then I'm gonna come in sweaty and stinky though, 472 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 4: and you're not gonna like that either. 473 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: Well, we'll see if I like it. We don't don't 474 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: tell me what. He don't tell me what. We try 475 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: it once, then Hayes tells you to do something else. Yes, okay, 476 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: and can we Hehi? Guy, thanks for guy. Hello, Okay, Jesus, 477 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: congrats on the book. I heard. It's awesome. 478 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 4: I'm so excited to read it. 479 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah, Kevin, can I just learn a little 480 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 3: bit more about you as a chef? 481 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: Okay? 482 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 3: All right, here's my question for you, Kevin. If you 483 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 3: were doing the Top Chef Season one Quickfire challenge where 484 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 3: they had to go into a gas station and get 485 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 3: things from a gas station with only thirty dollars and 486 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 3: then make a real high end dish, I think you 487 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 3: remember it to people make Krispy Kreme bread pudding. I 488 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 3: believe leanne one. What would you make? 489 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 4: I would probably get donuts in a Snickers bar and 490 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 4: a mountain dew and make like a croissant with a 491 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 4: with like a dash of mountain dew. 492 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 2: I got a feeling when they showed up to judge, 493 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 2: like your meal from the quick Fire, you just be 494 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: just finishing polishing off speakers in mountain dew, having not 495 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 2: even touched a bad It'd be like I didn't get 496 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 2: it played at in time. 497 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: Do you make a croissant out of donuts? Multiple donuts? Yeah, 498 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: which they don't have every gas station by the way. 499 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, but what's the what's the brand? They're kind 500 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 4: of like they're in pacts of three. 501 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: The Package ones. Yeah, the Drake Ones. Yeah, Drake Donuts. 502 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,959 Speaker 3: Okay. I just had a nice no stop. 503 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: Yep. 504 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 3: You're on the West Coast now, I mean, like, you 505 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 3: guys live here and you enjoy our weather. Don't fucking 506 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 3: play a Drake's Cakes game here. This is Hostess Country 507 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 3: or Dolly Madison. You have some goddamn respect. 508 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 1: Hero Napsterville, Illinois. I'm just speaking his language. 509 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 3: I don't care. You're in LA, right, now it's not 510 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 3: humid act like it. 511 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: I didn't even do it. 512 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I'm sorry about that. 513 00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 2: That's donuts. So uh but I had an idea, which 514 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 2: is if we can get to. 515 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: Jory, and I just want to say, normally, when the 516 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: host gets like that with me, normally the engineer will 517 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: protect me. 518 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, well as a guest, I mean he's 519 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 2: become the host because he has dominated us. 520 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: Well, he is a host. Yes, wait, I thought all 521 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: of you were strapped in, did you. 522 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: Well, somehow has managed to loosen his straps and was 523 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 2: able to just destroy us. 524 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: And so usually there will be a diving. Usually I 525 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: will see an engineer Sam, usually an Angie Ryan diving 526 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: in front of me when something like that happens. And 527 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: I was looking and I did not see that, And 528 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: then I looked at you were and you were still 529 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: in here. 530 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 3: I wanted to to just shoot Andrew t of yo 531 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 3: is this racist? And like a daring a very daring 532 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 3: and brave engineer jumped in front of him, took a bullet. 533 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 3: It's still in a coma engineer, Frank and I like, 534 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 3: I had to have respect for that. And Andrew and 535 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 3: I are better now. 536 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 4: I have to learn so much. 537 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 2: What precipitated the attempt at assassination? Was he saying that 538 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: it wasn't racist, or that it. 539 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 3: Was he was saying that it was racist? 540 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: Okay, come on, in everything can't. 541 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 3: Be I just had a little moment of white fragility, 542 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 3: and so you know, I did what you would expect. 543 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I did have an idea. And it's maybe 544 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: too long ago to go back to this, but whoever 545 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 2: does have a contact with Alexandria Cassio Cortez his people, 546 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 2: it could be a cool prank type character to get 547 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,719 Speaker 2: onto Top Chef and then every time they say go 548 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: for the challenge to just eat the. 549 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 5: Food, to walk over and be like, hey, what's working on, Andrew? 550 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: And then it's like, oh, I'm making anochi from the 551 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 2: bit and then go like, oh, it sounds pretty good. 552 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 2: It's just start munching and you might be able to 553 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 2: make it a couple of weeks by now being actively bad. 554 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 2: There usually is somebody who makes something disgusting in the 555 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: first like three episodes, and you could skate by. 556 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: I would really like that. So Kevin, we're helping you 557 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: with your memoirs. Of course, the famous thing that we've 558 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: been doing for a long time. Now, Okay, Guy is 559 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: here to help you spice up some of your life stories. 560 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: If you could just tell Guy one of your best stories, okay, 561 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: kind of like the one that you told us last 562 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: week about some like internet conversation you had that was 563 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: very boring. 564 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 2: Remember there was one about going three weeks early to 565 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 2: try to see the Mister Rogers documentary. 566 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: It was a pretty good story. 567 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 4: Yes, so when the well, when I thought the Mister 568 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,959 Speaker 4: Rogers documentary, no, don't tell that story. 569 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: No, but just give us some week. Ione heard that one. 570 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: But I we're just giving you examples. 571 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 4: I saw Equalizer two in theaters and there was no 572 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 4: one there. Well, there was a couple of people there, 573 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 4: and the guy behind me snored through the last hour 574 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 4: and it was distracting me, and I didn't know do 575 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,959 Speaker 4: I Like, I didn't feel comfortable like waking him up 576 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 4: or shouting or something, so I just kind of took 577 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 4: it and he just snored over the last. 578 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: But there was only a couple of people there. When you 579 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: just move seats, that was. 580 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 3: This is chapter one, all right. No, I think that 581 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 3: this is a beautiful story to start out with because 582 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 3: I think what a book needs these days. Let's be honest. 583 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 3: You're you're not a major celebrity or a mid level celebrity. 584 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 3: You be with Yeah, you have to have an angle 585 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 3: that is sort of like leveraging these stories that are 586 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 3: still Hollywood and glossy and making them relatable to people. 587 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 3: And I think that that really is a story about 588 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 3: you tell the world how to treat you. Okay, you 589 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 3: go into this world and you're sending out messages about 590 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 3: what you're worth, and what you're saying to the universe 591 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 3: is I am worth having someone snore so that I 592 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 3: cannot properly hear equalizer two? 593 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: That's true. And I didn't even move seats. 594 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 3: Were you at a theater that had a signed seats? 595 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 3: Were you at the arc Light? 596 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 597 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 4: And I feel an obligation to stay in that seat. 598 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. And you know, at this point in American democracy, 599 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 3: the rule of law is like hanging on by a 600 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 3: tenuous threat, and it really does take strong Americans like 601 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 3: you believing in and supporting the law as it exists, 602 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 3: even though you could get away with something. And I 603 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 3: really feel like there's some political grandstanding there that won't 604 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 3: be at all valuable for promotion. You need to go 605 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 3: conservative with this book, Okay, you need to say. And 606 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 3: then I shot that guy because I was somewhat scared 607 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 3: of him, And that's okay, And I should have a 608 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 3: gun with me at all times. 609 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 4: Is there any other stories I could tell that maybe 610 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 4: would have a different angle. 611 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 3: You're the one with your own story story before, so 612 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 3: let me ask you a question. 613 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 4: We've got a couple of times that's okay, Yeah, four 614 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 4: or five times? 615 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 3: Wait you were here for yes, Yeah, I'm sorry. 616 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: That's okay. Maybe that's the story. Imagine remembering, Imagine being like, 617 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: oh yeah, Kevin, that guy left a really big impression 618 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: on me. 619 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 3: Okay, that would disturbed. He is a beautiful little boy. 620 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 3: He's got facial hair that's growing that looks like it 621 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 3: didn't grow from his face. It looks like he was 622 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 3: in a fifth grade production of Our Town and someone 623 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 3: used spirit gum to apply it to his face. Kevin, 624 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 3: can I ask you a question? 625 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: Sure? 626 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, let me just say, next time 627 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 3: you meet me, make an impression. But the other thing 628 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,959 Speaker 3: is at a in a darker moment in my career, 629 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 3: I go strote a book for one of the men 630 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 3: on million dollar listing LA, and so I wanted to 631 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 3: just say to you, have you ever sold a house 632 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 3: in the bird streets of West Hollywood? Because if so, 633 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 3: I can turn this into a book. 634 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: What's the closest thing you have to that experience? 635 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 4: While I sold my car last year and my neighbor 636 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 4: asked for my parking spot. And when she said, humba, 637 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 4: I give you a hundred, I said, okay, it's one 638 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 4: hundred dollars. And she said, how's fifty And I said no, 639 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 4: and she said, we're doing fifty. 640 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: And I said, so now every couple of. 641 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 4: Months she pays me and I have to ask her. 642 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 4: She normally doesn't pay me. 643 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: So like that's pretty simmlar. So that kind of negotiation 644 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: is a little similar to the million dollar listing fifty 645 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: dollars park expot. 646 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 3: So this really is a business book. This is a 647 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 3: book like I think it's somewhere it's in self help, 648 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 3: but it's somewhere in between business and like you know, 649 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 3: like talking about confidence. 650 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: Well, the entrepreneurial spirit is still alive in America, and 651 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 2: I feel like Kevin's the best example of that. 652 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 3: But also I believe Kevin like going on a journey 653 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 3: in your own life during the process of writing this book, 654 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 3: where you go from thinking, hey, my parking spot is 655 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 3: only worth what she tells me to saying, hey, my 656 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 3: parking spot is worth at least eighty five dollars. Yeah, 657 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 3: you know, I think that could be a beautiful journey. 658 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 659 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,719 Speaker 4: Maybe I'm sharing all of these stories of what I 660 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 4: did wrong so that the reader knows what to do right. 661 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 2: One thing you could do is stack up a bunch 662 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 2: of pumpkins in the parking spot and go, hey, I'm 663 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 2: not moving these pumpkins until you pay me what's really worth. 664 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: And then afterwards you could like make a pie. 665 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 3: I mean, what is but what is he supposed to 666 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 3: do during the spring, summer and I mean winter. I 667 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 3: guess you still have false squashes, But I mean during 668 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 3: the summertime you think he's going to be able to 669 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 3: get enough. 670 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: Winter Christmas trees. Summer maybe some kind of like playground 671 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: or something for kids. There's a lot of stuff that 672 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: you can do with this parking spot year round. 673 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 2: And in summer, maybe you put a bunch of super 674 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 2: soakers in there, and then when she tries to park. 675 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: You blaster. What if that's the book? 676 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 4: Each chapter is like a different season and how it 677 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 4: went putting different stuff in the parking space. 678 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a okay. 679 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 3: How much of a historical view of the of the 680 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 3: parking space would we get, Would we look back to 681 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,720 Speaker 3: a point in time that it was like co opted 682 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 3: from Native American people's would would it be a book 683 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 3: fundamentally about how all land in this country is that? 684 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 4: Yeah? 685 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: I noticed we never heard how Kevin got the parking 686 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: space in the first place. I have a feeling it 687 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: could possibly have been stolen from Native Americans. Does that 688 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: ring a bell, Kevin. 689 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,439 Speaker 4: We don't have to go through the history. We could 690 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 4: just start at the present time. 691 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 3: But that's the adventure, Kevin, I feel like you really 692 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 3: need to tell I mean, if you tell a story 693 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 3: that begins with you being fixed, it's not a story. 694 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 3: But if you give us an adventure and you say, hey, 695 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 3: I used to be someone who stole parking spaces from 696 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 3: Native Americans, but now I'm a better I think that 697 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 3: that's good, not great. What's great is I started out better, 698 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 3: now I am someone who steals parking spaces from Native Americans. 699 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 3: Because we need more conservative pundits, we don't have enough. 700 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 2: I'd love to see you break bad. Read the parking spot, Kevin. 701 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 2: You have a friend named Darius. 702 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: You know that's right? Guy? Can we do anything with that? 703 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 4: Built a dresser for me yesterday? 704 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 3: Are we talking about all in a single day? 705 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: Yeah? 706 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 4: Yesterday? After work I told him I bought a dresser and. 707 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 3: Is keen el from a fairytale? Does he cobble shoes? 708 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 3: Because I've been looking. 709 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 4: I wish No, He's just really good at building stuff. Okay, 710 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 4: So I sat on my bed and complained about work 711 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 4: as he built. 712 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: A dresser for three hours. 713 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 4: You say, I just said, you know, times are tough, 714 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 4: and you know specifics. 715 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 3: Did you mention that guy never remembers you? 716 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:32,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? 717 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 4: I was like, well, I saw him when Howard was 718 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 4: on the couch, and this was the second time I've 719 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 4: seen him, and he he's he introduced himself again, And 720 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 4: at this point I didn't say like, oh, yeah, we've met. 721 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 4: So I guess it was on me. 722 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 1: You're doing a different glasses thing than that you don't 723 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: always do. 724 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm wearing them today. 725 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 3: Has it ever crossed your mind that I am just 726 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 3: pretending to not remember you because I am enchanted by 727 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 3: your narrow waist? And you know, boyish complexion, and I'm 728 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 3: trying to not make this seem uncomfortable. We all saw 729 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 3: what happened, so lest Moon bests, that's true. 730 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: I guess I should be thanking. 731 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 3: So like Darius, the construction of this of this dresser, 732 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 3: did it represent an emotional journey for him or the 733 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 3: two of you? Was he getting over the loss of 734 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 3: a small child? Something under six? I mean once we 735 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 3: get into school aged years, it's not as emotional. But 736 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 3: was this really like a woman under the I was 737 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 3: trying to remember the name of a book that mom's 738 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 3: read in the nineties, but I really couldn't sure. 739 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, me too, Yeah, probably right. You were trying to 740 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: do that too, Yeah, Why trying to remember the name 741 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: of a book that women read in the nineties for 742 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: her to help guides for Daniel Steele? 743 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,720 Speaker 3: Thing now more like more like Knights and Rope, Dancy 744 00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 3: snowfalling on cedars, like I had a great Prince of Tie, 745 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 3: I had jo Club. 746 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,280 Speaker 1: We've had a lot of success with Amy Tan references 747 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: in the last couple of weeks. 748 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 3: I mean, look, at the end of the day, I'm 749 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 3: always going to be a Maxine Hank Kingston Man but 750 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 3: Amy Tan she did a whole lot to take that 751 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 3: mainstream and also gave us the joy Let Club movie. 752 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 3: And anytime Rosslyn Child gets work, this guy's happy. So sorry, Kevin, 753 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 3: you were telling me what Darius was working through in 754 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 3: the process of building that that dresser. 755 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he is like working through his own career. 756 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 4: He's trying to, you know, build up from nothing, and 757 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 4: so he's working just with simple pieces of wood and 758 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 4: trying to build something beautiful. 759 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 3: Are you comfortable being sort of like a Nick Carroway 760 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 3: in your own memoir where you're really just observing somebody 761 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 3: else's more interesting journey through and around American capitalism. 762 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that'd be kind of fun. I call that. 763 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: I call that, I call being Nick Carroway. 764 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 3: I call it. 765 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Sorry, Kevin, that's okay. So I guess no, I 766 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: got that was a good name for your cool character 767 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: in the book too. Hell yeah, your favorite seed? 768 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 2: Oh yes, No, it can be so good in like 769 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 2: Havarti or whatever. 770 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, it's a lot of liquorice flavor. 771 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: I like. 772 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 3: For me, if you're going with a liquorice flavored seed, 773 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 3: I'm always gonna go Fennel. 774 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: Okay, and I respect that. 775 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think I stated pretty clearly that it's 776 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,240 Speaker 2: in like a Havardi, so like there's like a nice 777 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 2: sort of creaminess. 778 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. 779 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 1: Kevin. Do you have any stories from like your childhood 780 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: that we could workshop sure? 781 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 4: I got lost in the woods once when I went 782 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 4: on a run. 783 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: Run as a child. 784 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that called going on a run at that point, Yeah, 785 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 2: just called running. 786 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,919 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. This gives so much context and emotional weight 787 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 3: to your narrow waiste. And are we completely ignoring the 788 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 3: possibility that this is a book about surviving body image 789 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 3: issues and possible sort of like like food issues. 790 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 4: That's great. I think that's that's definitely the path we 791 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 4: should go. 792 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: Food issues for chef Kevin. Yeah. 793 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's a journey. That's a full circle. 794 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevin, can I get something? And Jordan, I need 795 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 2: you to look alive just real quick while we have you. 796 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 2: We need to plug in you saying something to protect 797 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 2: our guest, can you just say in the heights, in 798 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,959 Speaker 2: the heights, Oh heaven Jesus man, God. 799 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 5: No. 800 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 1: Terrible specific Come on, Kevin. You did get that, Jordan, Yeah, 801 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: I got it. 802 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 3: I feel terrible. Why didn't I just say mom and Mia? 803 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 3: Why didn't I just say Mama? That would have crushed hilarious. Oh, 804 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 3: here's a question, just for the sake of your memoir. 805 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,399 Speaker 3: Do you know definitively who your father is? And did 806 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 3: your mother ever own an inn on a Greek island? 807 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,760 Speaker 3: Because if so, I think we may have an angle. 808 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:13,720 Speaker 1: No, but they can. What's your closest life connection to 809 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,399 Speaker 1: to that kind of thing? 810 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 4: My parents own a house in Wisconsin and they think 811 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 4: it's like super rad. 812 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 3: Are we talking like Door County or load Eye. 813 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 4: It's a very small town's population like two thousands a lakehouse. 814 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry. If you're doing upscale vacationing in Wisconsin, 815 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 3: I want Door County or the Dales Like I'm not. 816 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:43,399 Speaker 3: I'm not fucking around with this shit. Yeah, I mean, 817 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 3: just look, there are a lot of lakes up there. 818 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 3: We've all got lakes up there. But you know something, 819 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 3: something charming, like on Lake Michigan. That's what I'm looking at, 820 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 3: some self respect. 821 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,240 Speaker 4: I agree, it's a it's embarrassing for them. 822 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 2: Load eye load I lay like a load eye horseshit 823 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 2: to me, Hey, leave them alone. 824 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: That was great, really funny. Right, those are my best friends. 825 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 3: So is it possible that your mother, during the course 826 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 3: of one of her rapturous summers in load Ee, Wisconsin, 827 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 3: was actually romanced by three separate men, all of whom 828 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 3: might be your father. 829 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 4: No, she was like, she stayed at home. I feel like, 830 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 4: now in her life, maybe this is my Nick Caraway thing. 831 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 4: I feel like she's now like realizing like I have 832 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 4: a life and I'm gonna go do cool things. And 833 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 4: so she's kind of like going on trips and being 834 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 4: independent and fun and I'm like, that's kind of awesome. 835 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: So maybe like that's the story. I don't think. I 836 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: don't think that happens in any Nick Carraway stories. 837 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 4: Oh, I just felt like I'm observing it, like from 838 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 4: a distance. 839 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 3: Okay, we've got an adult child observing their their mom 840 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,919 Speaker 3: who's going on her own journey. Just have to ask, 841 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 3: does she have three friends who also all immigrated to 842 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 3: Wisconsin from Illinois and they all have children and you 843 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 3: guys are learning to relate to each other. To take 844 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 3: this back to Hayes's joy Luck Club point, like do 845 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,879 Speaker 3: you have some sort of white, more accessible joy lu Club. 846 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 2: And does she also have her groove or does she 847 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 2: possibly need to get hit. 848 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 3: I mean, that's a real question we all have to 849 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 3: ask her in the course of writing a book. 850 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: I think she's getting her groove. 851 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 4: And yes, there are some Illinois immigrants that are coming 852 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 4: to Wisconsin who are the same age as me, so 853 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 4: maybe there's some parallels here. 854 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 3: Kevin, let me ask you just an honest question. How 855 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 3: old is your mom fifty four? Okay, let's say, and 856 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 3: she's still married to your. 857 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:44,919 Speaker 1: Dad fifty five? 858 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, let's say she happened. 859 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: Fifty six fifty sorry, Yeah, she's getting old very fast. 860 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: We gotta hurry. 861 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 3: She fucks a dude, She fucks a dude, not your dad. 862 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 3: Does not break up with him. I mean, it's just 863 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 3: for the rest of her life happier, happier and in 864 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 3: a better mood. Yeah, Like her life is better and 865 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 3: more healed now your father's healings aside. Would you be 866 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 3: happy and comfortable with that or would that fundamentally tear 867 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 3: you apart? 868 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: I have so many mixed emotions. 869 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 4: I'd be happy that she's happy, but I feel like 870 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 4: it would change our relationship because she has this lifelong 871 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 4: lie she's been keeping from me, but maybe it was 872 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 4: to protect me. 873 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 1: Will it change your relationship when she listens to this show, 874 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 1: which she often does. 875 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, she told me she heard that I do my 876 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 4: mom thing and I told her she should stop listening. 877 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so that might change it. 878 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 2: But it feels like the kind of thing she could 879 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 2: have just blown past as well, didn't necessarily have to 880 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 2: call you tell me. 881 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 882 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 3: And his mom's creation of drama is what you get 883 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 3: a book out of having just like a low key 884 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,399 Speaker 3: life where you look at Darius do things while you 885 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,760 Speaker 3: yourself are inactive, you know. I mean, the novel really 886 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 3: is the medium best suited to that. It is an 887 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:10,839 Speaker 3: internal story, but I just feel like we need more. 888 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 3: And frankly, Kevin's mom is doing most of the work 889 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 3: of what I've heard, for creating interesting, compelling storytelling, we. 890 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 1: Know is really doing most of the work. Guy is you. 891 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 2: I wonder if this memoir is like the Guy Sessions, 892 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 2: and it's sort of all the stories of like the 893 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 2: times you met on the couch or the times that 894 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 2: you were able to reframe the story, or how you 895 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 2: built a new relationship for Kevin with his mom and 896 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,919 Speaker 2: with Darius, Like. 897 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 3: I love that, and I just want to guess, and 898 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 3: you what if it's Tuesdays with Guy, Yes, okay or no, 899 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 3: even better the five guys you meet in heaven. And 900 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 3: so it's Kevin going and he goes to heaven and 901 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 3: he meets me and like four animals all named Guy 902 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 3: who had gone extinct at various points in time, and 903 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 3: then they sort of like guide him through the choices 904 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,840 Speaker 3: he needs to think and then he un dies and 905 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 3: comes back to Earth and builds his own dresser. 906 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 1: That's the callback. We got the animals in heaven and 907 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 1: building a dresser. So that is what that's what we 908 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: wrap up the show on. Okay, Yeah, And of course 909 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 1: it is. 910 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 2: This is also a callback to a joke I did 911 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 2: maybe two hundred episodes ago where Tuesdays with Morey was 912 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 2: the answer. 913 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 1: To the question what's your favorite album? Bye