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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Welcome back to Two Jersey Jays. I'm Jen Fessler,

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Speaker 1: I'm Jackie Goldschneider. We're very excited about today's episode.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and it's so funny. I love. Even though I've

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Speaker 2: been on reality TV for six years, I still there's

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Speaker 2: certain TV personalities who I've never met that I am

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Speaker 2: just so excited to talk to. Today is one of them.

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Speaker 1: I feel the same way today we have the iconic

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Speaker 1: Patti Stanger on the show.

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Speaker 2: Did you used to watch a Millionaire? Oh my god?

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Speaker 1: I mean seriously, like, I feel the same way even listen,

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Speaker 1: I even get like that meeting Housewives, still like, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I'm standing just in the presence of greatness

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Speaker 1: and Patti Stanger like she was way before any of this.

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Speaker 2: Yes, right, yeah, that show is definitely I mean I

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Speaker 2: think that OC was probably on already and I think

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Speaker 2: so right years was I'm like blinking, you know, the

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Speaker 2: years go by? Yeah, you know it's a quote. I

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Speaker 2: know it's a quote, Remashal, you know, the years to

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Speaker 2: keep coming in, they don't stop coming. But yeah, I

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Speaker 2: love of the Millionaire. Matchmaker was obsessed. It was a

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Speaker 2: different premise that so she has this new show out

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Speaker 2: now and it's same idea, but it is not millionaire

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Speaker 2: Matchmaker anymore, right, So it's not women who want to

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Speaker 2: meet their millionaire husband. So I don't know could you

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Speaker 2: even get away with that these days? I don't know,

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Speaker 2: you know, like a millionaire kind of thing, well, like

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Speaker 2: just a show that's based on a woman meeting a millionaire.

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Speaker 2: It was all right, I just were some women millionaires.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know that you could get

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Speaker 2: away with the old show that she used to film

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Speaker 2: because there were there was a lot you know, we're

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Speaker 2: a lot more PC now. Cancel culture is really a

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Speaker 2: thing right now, Yes it is. And I don't know

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Speaker 2: that you could get away with, you know, concentrating on

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Speaker 2: a woman's looks and telling her she I mean, there

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Speaker 2: was this one incident I remember where Patty was telling

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Speaker 2: a woman, you know, certain things about her appearance that

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Speaker 2: wouldn't fly if she wanted to, you know, be successful

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Speaker 2: with a millionaire. And I don't know that you could

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Speaker 2: do that now.

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Speaker 1: Right, You probably couldn't. I was I worked for and

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Speaker 1: was very very close friends with these women, and I

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Speaker 1: we want to have them on. Actually, Jack, we've spoken

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Speaker 1: about it, who wrote that book The Rules.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I remember that. I remember that book.

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Speaker 1: So for you guys, I don't know if you guys

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Speaker 1: have ever heard of it, but there was a book about, really,

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Speaker 1: you know, how to find a man and get married

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Speaker 1: and so really it was a huge topic of conversation

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking it was.

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Speaker 1: The late nineties, right like mid nineties anyway. So the

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Speaker 1: idea was that there are some rules that you have

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Speaker 1: to follow if you want to not only get married,

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Speaker 1: rule by rule. They've written several books now, Ellen Fine

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Speaker 1: and Cherry Schneider, but I believe in a lot of

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Speaker 1: what that book has to say, And even though it

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Speaker 1: sounds so archaic now, I think Patty probably also subscribes

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Speaker 1: to the same philosophies. There's a lot in it that

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Speaker 1: talks about like not accepting a date after a certain

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Speaker 1: point in the week, like don't be that last minute girl, right,

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Speaker 1: And it's so it was a lot of it was

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Speaker 1: very controversial because it was some people thought it was

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Speaker 1: anti feminist. Some people thought it was actually a great,

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Speaker 1: you know, example of how a woman can really take

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Speaker 1: and anyway. So it's just interesting because it also gives

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Speaker 1: out appearance advice and it talks about you know, lots

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Speaker 1: you have to be physically attracted to somebody in order

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Speaker 1: for the You don't have to be but physical without

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Speaker 1: physical attraction, I don't feel like there's that spark.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I believe that anymore. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I I know that like I see it. Also, like

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Speaker 1: even with my daughter, you know, she'll meet a kid,

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Speaker 1: we'll say man, and you know what, I'm not into him.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I just I got the ick.

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Speaker 1: She'll see him again, she'll be like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: And the next time I talked to her.

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Speaker 2: I'm in love.

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Speaker 1: I'm in love. I met my husband. Like, I think

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Speaker 1: that stuff can develop. I think it's very hard in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know because I just fell so deeply

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Speaker 2: for Evan Goldschneider when I laid eyes on him, So

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't talk to him everyone. You know,

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Speaker 2: if people don't know about Jen Fessler is that before

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Speaker 2: she was on the Housewives, she was a matchmaker.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say like before I was on the Housewives

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Speaker 1: because it was about a million years ago, and it

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Speaker 1: was I guess it's like a maybe three years out

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Speaker 1: of my life and my twenties, I had god so

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Speaker 1: many different jobs. But anyway, yes, for a few years,

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Speaker 1: I was a matchmaker for this company called It's Just Lunch.

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Speaker 1: And the premise of base Just Lunch is that you

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Speaker 1: set up singles professionals on either lunch dates or drink

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Speaker 1: dates because no one has time, you know, for a

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Speaker 1: meet and greet and have a coffee or have lunch. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: that's how I met Jeff Fessler as a matter of fact.

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Speaker 2: So oh he was a client.

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Speaker 1: He was a client, well, he had been a client

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Speaker 1: and his membership expired and I was trying to get

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Speaker 1: called him up He's like, it wasn't really successful for me,

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Speaker 1: and I said, well, you haven't met me or whatever,

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Speaker 2: And that was that. It's funny because I used it's

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Speaker 2: just lunch during the years that you were working there,

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Speaker 2: and I can't find any of the email correspondents. It

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Speaker 2: did not work out for me. I only had one

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Speaker 2: go around with them, but they set me up on

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Speaker 2: three dates that were all bummers. But I know that

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Speaker 2: it does work for some people, so I'm not like

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Speaker 2: disparages the company. It's a very hard thing to be

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Speaker 2: a matchmaker. But I talked really habdy about it. I

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Speaker 2: wish I could find those emails because how funny if

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Speaker 2: you were the person, because I remember the woman that

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Speaker 2: But you probably know you, Jeff no Early.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that was not the way it was

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Speaker 1: supposed to happen anyway, But I was not supposed to

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Speaker 1: be dating if I tell But I found like, as

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Speaker 1: a matchmaker, you know it, maybe you can get it

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Speaker 1: right in terms of like Okay, somebody says, I like

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Speaker 1: Brunette's great. He has to be tall, fabulous. I want

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Speaker 1: a professional great, but you can't. And Patty maybe ken

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Speaker 1: so interested in this but predict chemistry, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: like it's a very hard thing. Like I think that's

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Speaker 2: Does it work?

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Speaker 1: It may make sense on paper, but how does she

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Speaker 1: actually how did she figure out? Like who's going to spark?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, well I never really used dating apps except

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Speaker 2: for JD. I don't know what any of the difference

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Speaker 1: Bumbles, the bad one bumbles, the hook up one. I

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Speaker 2: That's Tinder. Sorry, I don't know direction. I have no

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Speaker 2: It's like you meet for breakfast or something. There are

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Speaker 1: Listen and this is for our different podcast maybe, but

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Speaker 1: it's I think it's just so sad because people don't

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Speaker 1: And you know, I have a whole philosophy about that.

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Speaker 1: That's for another episode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just say, asked seven the other day if

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Speaker 2: the population is dropping?

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Speaker 2: He first of all, Evan is a freaking encyclopedia of

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Speaker 1: But there's also that guy, Scott Galloway. I don't you

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Speaker 1: ever heard of him? So he's a perser. I'm going

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Speaker 1: But anyway, he talks about young men and the loneliness

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Speaker 1: put up their profile and if they're not like in

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Speaker 2: Well, I can imagine that that happens to girls too.

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Speaker 1: He focuses more on the boys amenity easier, he says,

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Speaker 1: for girls don't.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think I strongly believe in matchmaking. Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 2: I think that a personal recommendation to somebody you know

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Speaker 2: my god. I love saying you ever set people up successfully?

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Speaker 2: I have?

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Speaker 1: Actually yeah, yeah, well I did it professionally, so yes.

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Speaker 1: But I've also done it. I always try to do

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Speaker 1: it in my personal life, like I'm always looking. It's

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Speaker 1: harder for me for some reason, maybe because a woman,

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Speaker 1: I have more female friends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a lot more female friends, right, and

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Speaker 2: I don't even know any single men. When I do.

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Speaker 1: As soon as I meet a single guy, like around

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Speaker 2: So are you kind of like living vicariously through your

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Speaker 1: between thirty and forty people here.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow.

434
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Speaker 1: But it's like the greatest, you know, day of the year. Yeah,

435
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,480
Speaker 1: So I'm just teasing. Obviously, I'm gonna have to like

436
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,800
Speaker 1: understand that everything is not just about me and my

437
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:57,480
Speaker 1: baby boy.

438
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Speaker 2: So I will, I will. You know, anyway, how do

439
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,520
Speaker 2: we get here? We're talking about dating? I don't know,

440
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,480
Speaker 2: we're talking about dating. We're talking about Patty's here. Okay, guys,

441
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Speaker 2: Oh yay, I'm so excited me too. All Right, guys,

442
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,199
Speaker 2: so you know Patty from Millionaire Matchmaker. You're gonna know

443
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 2: her again from the Matchmaker. Let's bring her in. Patti Stanger.

444
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Speaker 3: My god.

445
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 1: We were talking about before you came on, how you

446
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:30,160
Speaker 1: are for us. You're iconic, I mean yes, but like yeah,

447
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 1: but you're came way before us. You like you paved

448
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 1: the way. I mean, I just lived and died for

449
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 1: a Millionaire Matchmaker. It's just I absolutely loved it. I

450
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 1: feel like we're the probably.

451
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Speaker 2: I don't hope.

452
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 1: I'm not insulting you or Jackie and or You're younger

453
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Speaker 1: than me, but maybe around the same age. I'm fifty five.

454
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 3: I'm way older, but that's okay. You're older than me, Yes,

455
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Speaker 3: I'm older, but I'm not telling.

456
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Speaker 2: You I'm not asking you, but you look me. I

457
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Speaker 2: thought you were my age.

458
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Speaker 1: But I'm saying because I used to watch and I

459
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Speaker 1: could like relate, you know, it was like we were

460
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Speaker 1: sort of were you a.

461
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Speaker 3: Single when you watch? We single or married.

462
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Speaker 2: When you watch?

463
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I was single when I watched. I think, well,

464
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Speaker 1: how many years ago?

465
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Speaker 2: Maybe not?

466
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Speaker 3: It was so long ago, but I mean it was

467
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Speaker 3: off three seasons and I left. I left them for

468
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,919
Speaker 3: legal reasons because they wanted my trademark and it just

469
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,159
Speaker 3: didn't work out. And I had another offer, and I

470
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 3: went to the other offer, which now today I kind

471
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 3: of regret that I didn't stay the other office times

472
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Speaker 3: the amount of money and a lot more of money,

473
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Speaker 3: but it wasn't Bravo, and there is nothing like Bravo.

474
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,400
Speaker 3: And when you jump to other networks, it's great, it's fine.

475
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 3: But coming home, like high school tonight, I felt like,

476
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Speaker 3: oh god, I miss it. I really missed Welcome See

477
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 3: it was the wild West when we were on, you know,

478
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Speaker 3: but I miss everybody that worked there. My cousin works

479
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 3: there now, so nice, Like yeah, my cousin works for

480
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 3: Kim mckaidor right now so Joe, so like yeah, so

481
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 3: it's kind of funny, it's kind of weird. And then

482
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Speaker 3: one of the production assistants is my one of my

483
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Speaker 3: good friends daughter who works on Embassy row for Andy show.

484
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, like that sort of thing watching

485
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Speaker 3: the new shows come up.

486
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Speaker 2: Your new show's on CW, isn't it is on c W.

487
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Speaker 3: It's a very different show. It can be us and

488
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Speaker 3: he tell us about it. You can watch this show

489
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,919
Speaker 3: because it's basically about the patterns that we have we

490
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 3: keep doing over and over and again and nothing gets broken.

491
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,239
Speaker 3: Talk therapy is not working. So I bring in all

492
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Speaker 3: these experts in that I know that it fixed my clients.

493
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Speaker 3: It's true to form, it's in real time. There's nothing

494
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Speaker 3: re enacted. We don't write a show and we take

495
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Speaker 3: these clients and some of them are celebrities and some

496
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Speaker 3: of them are regular people and they're not millionaires, maybe

497
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Speaker 3: a few, but not a lot, and the real people.

498
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Speaker 3: So it's really exciting that CW gave me this opportunity.

499
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Speaker 1: Why did you go from the format being, you know,

500
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Speaker 1: millionaire matchmaker millionaires to people that are.

501
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Speaker 2: Not I mean, first of all, the different show I realize, namely.

502
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 3: The format reverted back to me, and I could have

503
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Speaker 3: done Millionaire Matchmaker anywhere I own the rights, but Bravo

504
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 3: is iconic with that, and I really wanted to help everybody,

505
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 3: like I didn't want you to have to come in

506
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 3: and you have to have a certain amount of money

507
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,479
Speaker 3: for me to help you. So we're trying to come

508
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 3: with the show. So I had to come up with

509
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Speaker 3: another format with IPC where we really dug d. You know.

510
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Speaker 3: It's it's more of a therapy show. I call it.

511
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Speaker 3: I'm not a therapist, but I call it a healing show.

512
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 3: We're healing you of your problems and teaching the air

513
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 3: of your way so that when you get that final

514
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 3: date that I give you, it may not be the one,

515
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 3: but you will test out your skill set.

516
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Speaker 2: Now, do you feel like in your new show you

517
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 2: have to be more PC than you were years ago?

518
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 2: Because the world is.

519
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 3: Different network, I can't curse as much. Even though they

520
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 3: said okay, and they believe me, I'm more mellower since

521
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 3: since Brava and he asked me that, I said, I'm

522
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Speaker 3: way more mellower, and I'm much more deepfare a lot

523
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 3: more compassion, a lot more empathy. I would never call

524
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Speaker 3: a redhead out. Now. I think the men didn't like

525
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 3: the redheads, but I watch men who sound like X

526
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 3: and I yell at them because I'm angry that you

527
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 3: don't want this beautiful girl. And in a couple of

528
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 3: weeks up agoes back two weeks episodes, this guy was

529
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 3: using Instagram to get dates and he was pretending he

530
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 3: was giving them photoshoots, and I was super angry. I

531
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 3: said to the network, I don't want to do this.

532
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 3: They said, Patty, just go through the motion. You will

533
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Speaker 3: know what to do in the end and the audience

534
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 3: will respond. Well. I gave him the most gorgeous girl.

535
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Speaker 3: He now tells me she's not good enough, He's not

536
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Speaker 3: that hot, He's lying to women. I threw him out

537
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Speaker 3: of the house.

538
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Speaker 2: Wow.

539
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Speaker 3: I knew if he didn't play my game and didn't learn,

540
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 3: this was not going to work out. I just knew that.

541
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

542
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Speaker 1: I think that's so interesting, and I think it must

543
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Speaker 1: be really difficult. I know that it is in today's

544
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Speaker 1: social media crazy world that we're living in to help people,

545
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: you know, match up. Because we were talking about before

546
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Speaker 1: you came on, a lot of these kids, not even kids,

547
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: older people are have become so dependent on these apps,

548
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: right on the hinges and tinders of it all. And

549
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: so it's I think that it's actually been really bad

550
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,959
Speaker 1: for young men's self esteem. I think it's really it,

551
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Speaker 1: doesn't it.

552
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 3: Actually it's way worse for the women.

553
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Speaker 6: There were more what I was asking, Yeah, men are

554
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 6: losers right now if you do not teach your teenage

555
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 6: sons to be a gentleman from the get go.

556
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Speaker 3: This is where the problem is. The women are allowing

557
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Speaker 3: them kids to live at home, you know, like it's

558
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Speaker 3: cool to live at home now. And you know, when

559
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 3: I was doing a lot of work with the Persian

560
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 3: community back in La there were forty year old men

561
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Speaker 3: driving Mercedes, having gorgeous, gorgeous life clothes, fun living at

562
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Speaker 3: home with mommy. The girls had moved out. And I

563
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 3: go to do a speak engagement at Nessa this temple

564
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 3: and they're like, please tell us what to do. I'm like,

565
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 3: kick your sons out of the house. And they have it.

566
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 3: In Italy a big thing called gommami onis where they

567
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 3: live forever with their mothers. They never get married, they

568
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 3: sleep at the girl's house, they have sex, and they're

569
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Speaker 3: not men. So the problem starts with the men not

570
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 3: the women. The women said. The women sets the tone

571
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 3: of what she will accept, but it is up to

572
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 3: the men to ask the girl out. Now women are

573
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Speaker 3: scared of apps because the men are not being gentlemen.

574
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 3: There's a lot of married men online in relationships, gaslighting

575
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 3: and playing games. I'm not blaming all men. I'm saying

576
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 3: that the men need to be men in order to

577
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Speaker 3: get a woman, and that is the issue.

578
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Speaker 1: My question is that because of social media though, and

579
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Speaker 1: it's people are not meeting like they used to. They

580
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: don't have they don't go to bars, and they don't

581
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Speaker 1: learn to socialize, and they don't learn to make eye

582
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Speaker 1: contact and put their phones down.

583
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Speaker 2: And okay, so you're getting a couple, kid.

584
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: I made fragrances for a couples, craverances, singles, gayer straight.

585
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 3: This is the energy when you go to the grocery store,

586
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 3: to Starbucks, whatever, you will stand there, do nothing as

587
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 3: a woman, because a woman's most potent when she's still.

588
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 3: But you can still use it to get jiggy in

589
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 3: the bedroom with your boyfriend. You will be attracted to

590
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 3: each other. So when you're talking about and going to

591
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 3: the bars, it's because you can't taste touchtel smell. That's

592
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 3: the bad part. But the men are using the apps

593
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 3: for entertainment. I tell a girl two three times say hey, listen,

594
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 3: I'm not going to be on the app much longer.

595
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 3: Here's my number if you want to meet me. Goodbye.

596
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: If the guy doesn't call, he's not your guy. The

597
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 3: guy calls, he's like, WHOA, No girl ever gave me

598
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 3: your number before. This is amazing, which happened with my

599
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: last boyfriend, because women just play games. But I said,

600
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 3: stop being entertainment for them. You are filling up their

601
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 3: left hand for them to go bigger. Better deal to

602
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 3: someone else, whether it's an X or someone new. You

603
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 3: don't want to do that. You need to see right

604
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 3: away is he interested in you? And as you're willing

605
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 3: to make a phone call, you have to hear his voice.

606
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 3: Women scientifically fall in love between their ears. Men fall

607
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: between their eyes. So if you don't hear his voice

608
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 3: on the phone, there's no game. So these women are

609
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 3: texting and they're like going on dates without even talking

610
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: to them or my favorite one in COVID was that

611
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 3: I have a boyfriend. Have you met him? No? Two

612
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 3: years they've been texting.

613
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: Do you feel like men now are not as interested

614
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 2: in settling down and having a family and children.

615
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 3: Okay, so for everyone out of ten there's a man

616
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 3: who wants to settle down. It's the green light theory

617
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 3: that they had on sex in the city. There are

618
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: men that want to settle down and there are men

619
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 3: who don't. Your job is to vet it. You got

620
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 3: to keep moving like a shark. Women fall in love

621
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 3: through oxytocin, taste, touch, smell, feel, hug me, kiss me.

622
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 3: I am now in love. That's why it's be careful.

623
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 3: If you have a lot of estrogen in your body

624
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: and you're not in menopause, you will get stuck to

625
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 3: a loser just by one decent orgasm.

626
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: Or hug wow.

627
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: Men fall in love through vassuppressing. They do not fall

628
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: in love through sexually. They have to be emotionally. What

629
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: is that doing things together, doing hobbies, interests, learning a skill,

630
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 3: and when stress comes, you bond together. During the stress,

631
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 3: he will go deeper, deeper, deeper, and if more vasa

632
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: pressed than he has, the more he's going to want

633
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 3: to marry you.

634
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: Peiser, You'll think that people like people say you have

635
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: to know if the man is ready or if he's

636
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: looking for even if he's not. Let's say that he

637
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: is a guy that doesn't want to get married. When

638
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: he meets the woman who you know, makes his eyes

639
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: pop out of his head, doesn't that change everything? Like

640
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: I feel like guys can say all the time, I'm

641
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: not ready to settle down. I just want to have

642
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: a good time until they meet the woman that blows

643
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: them away, and all of a sudden they are ready

644
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: for those things.

645
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: Well, there's two kinds of men. They're the men that

646
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 3: are hunting and looking for the wife. Everybody in my

647
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 3: group is married, my parents are married. I'm tired of dating.

648
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 3: Usually that light goes off and he's asking buyer's questions, Well,

649
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 3: where would you want to live if we got married?

650
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 3: What would you want to do? And he's asking them.

651
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 3: On the first and second date, you're getting interviewed, but

652
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 3: you don't really is it okay? And then there's the

653
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 3: man that's like, you know, I'm just moving along, I'm

654
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 3: getting late, I'm having a good time. I got a girlfriend,

655
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 3: and then boom, he meets another girl that is the

656
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 3: perfect thing on his wish lists. Maybe it doesn't even

657
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 3: check under the hood of the car and he's like,

658
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: she's the one, So they're visual, they see what they

659
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 3: want and they go after it. But if he's coasting

660
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 3: with an old girl that won't put up boundaries, he's

661
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 3: going to keep looking. That's the bad ratify. You can

662
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 3: never give a guy more than a year over thirty.

663
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: Do you think that it should be that a woman

664
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: has to put up Well, it is, I suppose, But like,

665
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: if he's not issuing to get married, I don't know,

666
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: a few months later and you have to then go

667
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: a year and then you start putting on bet do you.

668
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: Still want him? Like you don't, You're gonna not. Do

669
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: you want to feel like you're forcing someone.

670
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 3: To marry you he's not invested in the experience of marriage,

671
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 3: then you're not going to want to be with him anymore,

672
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 3: you know. Like if he's okay, let's say he says

673
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 3: I want to get married, but then he does, his

674
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 3: actions don't match his words. You're not going to be

675
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 3: it now. The self esteem girl the high self esteem goes,

676
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 3: I don't want to be with you, and she closes

677
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 3: her legs. The other girl goes, well, wait a second,

678
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 3: you wanted me in the beginning. How do I get them,

679
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 3: I'm going to do all these I'm gonna turn myself

680
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 3: into every self up book. I'm gonna go to every seminar.

681
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 3: I'm going to do everything and make you. They think

682
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 3: they're going to make themselves sexual vicxins, and all of

683
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 3: a sudden, the guy's going to go, oh, by the

684
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 3: most amazing organism, let's go to the altered Oh my.

685
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: God, that was me.

686
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: How many hours did I spend getting ready for a

687
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: date with a guy that didn't like me? And I

688
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: put so much because if I got the hair blown

689
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: out and this outfit and the money and the and

690
00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: it just didn't work.

691
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: He just wasn't in me.

692
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,959
Speaker 3: Is like with my ex boyfriend. I didn't like him

693
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: on the first date and I was thinking, Okay, I'm

694
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: not going to date him. And he felt the switch

695
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 3: and because he was a hunter, we go to the valet,

696
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: he pays the valet. He says, what are you doing

697
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: Saturday night? And I'm like, I don't want to go

698
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 3: out and he says, what about the Dodger game? I

699
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 3: have season tickets? And I was like, oh, that was

700
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 3: kind of like I make You're supposed to make a

701
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 3: list in when I teach people. I teach a course

702
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 3: called Love and Money with Kathleen Cameron, and I teach

703
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 3: my girls, make a list of the things you want

704
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 3: to do, so if the date goes south, you got

705
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 3: something out of it, Like I want to go to

706
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 3: the theater, I want to go to concert, whatever. So

707
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 3: Dodgers was on my list. I said, oh, may that's cool,

708
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 3: we go to Dodger game. Okay, I'll go And then

709
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 3: he kissed me on the lips. Didn't like him on

710
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 3: the date, didn't feel anything, and all of a sudden,

711
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 3: my body came to life because he wasn't my type totally.

712
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: He was a little out of the box. He's a

713
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 3: little aggressive, and I just went, WHOA is that? And

714
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 3: then he hunted me. It went wrong for various reasons

715
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 3: after ten months. But I was a great girlfriend and

716
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,959
Speaker 3: he hunted me, and I could feel the hunt and

717
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 3: I feel he liked me, liked him, which turned me

718
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 3: on a little bit because my mother used to say,

719
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 3: as a Jewish mother, and my mom used to say,

720
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: have the guy elects you a little bit more, just

721
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 3: a little bit.

722
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 5: Understand what that means later right, it.

723
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 3: Didn't work out, but I learned so much at this age,

724
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 3: which I thought nobody could teach me anything that you're

725
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 3: still no matter that, still there's breath in your body,

726
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 3: You're still going to be learning about yourself and relationships.

727
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: Okay, so you said he was an ex though XX.

728
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 3: Yeah he has a new girlfriend.

729
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: Now, so you're you're dating now currently you're single and

730
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: you're dating just.

731
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 3: Started dating on the apps. I took a year and

732
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 3: a half break to heal myself. It was a traumatic.

733
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 3: He asked me to marry him and we need to

734
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 3: get engaged. I was really close to his family and

735
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: his kids. It was traumatic for me. Was exactly like

736
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 3: my dad. He was the father wound. And my dad

737
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 3: was a difficult person, and he is the father wound.

738
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: And when I went to therapy, I do healing therapy.

739
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,959
Speaker 3: I don't do like talk therapy. I do body somatic stuff.

740
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: When I realized it, he was the mirror image of

741
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 3: my father. And I was trying to heal my father

742
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 3: like I was trying to heal my ex. There was

743
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 3: issues there. I don't want to stay in the air

744
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 3: for very straight. I don't want to hurt him.

745
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 6: And so.

746
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 3: He was the wound that I couldn't you know, clean

747
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 3: you have to understand I'm adopted. My mom was married

748
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 3: three times. She picked bad men, a lot of alcoholics.

749
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 3: My dad was an alcoholic and she she didn't give

750
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,479
Speaker 3: us a safe environment. So we were always on edge,

751
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: always like quick, hurry up, hunt yourself, Dad's coming home.

752
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 3: We were scared all the time. And safety is a

753
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: big critical issue for me. I have to have safety

754
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 3: for me to spread my legs like I make them. Wait.

755
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 3: That's why there's no sex before monogamy, so that I

756
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 3: can see under the hood of the car. But again,

757
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 3: narcissists like my dad can cover their tracks and they

758
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 3: basically can be, you know, a chameleon. Oh you love this,

759
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 3: I love this. Yoh you want to do this. I

760
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 3: want to do this, And like you don't know that

761
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 3: they're they're playing you and gaslighting you. So when I

762
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: went through this traumatic experience, it said, this isn't a

763
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 3: time for me to Everyone's like, oh, go out there

764
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: and get another one. I'm like, no, I have to

765
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: heal myself. So I spent the whole year. I'm just

766
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 3: starting to date right now.

767
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: Wow. Good, And do you feel more secure? I think

768
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 2: I read somewhere that you you look like you're thirty five.

769
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: But I think I read somewhere that you're dating in

770
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: your early sixties, So.

771
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 3: Thank you, Katie. I heard husband on the air the way.

772
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 3: David Yatip's my friend.

773
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: Oh yes, I remember him being on your show. I do. Yeah,

774
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 2: he's a good guy.

775
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

776
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 2: Oh oh, oh good.

777
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 3: It's true. It's true. But I mean I really I

778
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 3: feel safer in one way that I know myself, but

779
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 3: I worry about who's out there. You know, you meet

780
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 3: these people in the apps and they're randoms like you

781
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 3: don't know. So my best friend is Bonnie Winkler. She's

782
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: the big New York time. Yes, yeah, I trained, we

783
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 3: go way way back. She said, I'm getting you married

784
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 3: this year. And so she just started fixing me up.

785
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 3: And the first guy should fix me up with his

786
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 3: next NFL player. And I said, he's cute, but he's

787
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 3: a little Massachusetts boring, like pep preppy. I'm not a

788
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 3: preppy girl. I said, give him to Shannon and it'll

789
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 3: be perfect. So we're fixing up Shannon with him.

790
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 2: Shannon. Oh, I love that. Oh that's amazing.

791
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I really want Shannon to.

792
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: You know what I was saying to Jackie earlier, again

793
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: before you came on that if I was single right

794
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: now at fifty five, I think I would do it

795
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: so much better because I just know so much more.

796
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: And the way that I think I would approach it

797
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: would be I would go out with whomever, assuming that

798
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: that wasn't going to be the one, Like I would

799
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: go out saying, Okay, I'm just going to make a friend.

800
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 3: Well that's that's the way you're dating is the way

801
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 3: it should be. And my body doesn't respond sexually like

802
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 3: it did one. Okay, let's talk about dirty thirties. When

803
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 3: I was in my thirties, even I got monogamy. I

804
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 3: always get monogamy. I was a sexual evictionent, Like the

805
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 3: minute I saw the guy, even though I made him wait,

806
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 3: I wanted to sleep with him. You know, my hormones

807
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 3: ruled the roost, you know. And so now that I'm

808
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: older and i'm you know, menopause whatever, I realize my

809
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 3: brain is working differently. I'm qualifying them more like a

810
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 3: business deal to see, like is this a compatible match?

811
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 3: Because you really want compatibility. At the end of the day,

812
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 3: It's not about red carpets and travel. It's about staying

813
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 3: home and cooking and what TV show you're gonna watch,

814
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: Like Real time talking? Do we connect and talk? Do

815
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 3: I like a smell? Do I love his touch? Like

816
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: sex can be awful in the beginning, but you really

817
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 3: like someone and you're gonna work on the body maneuvering.

818
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 3: You know, there's millions tonsure, there's a million things you

819
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 3: can do. So the thing is you're looking for a

820
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 3: compatible match. I'm also an astrologer, so I do look

821
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 3: at astrology and there's things like that. I do have

822
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 3: psychic energy. I read the psychic vibes of someone.

823
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 2: Is this whole thing?

824
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 3: But I make mistakes and when I love someone and

825
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 3: they hurt me, it's hard for me to get over them.

826
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 3: And just I'm gonna move on to the next person. Person,

827
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 3: I'm like to lick the wounds and hide in the closet.

828
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: You know, do you so say the people asking you

829
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: about like this is your job? So like a doctor, right,

830
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: like you don't want all the pay, you don't want

831
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: your patient saying, well, you know, tell me about your

832
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: stuff and your medical conditions.

833
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 3: I'll tell you why. So I did a problem where

834
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: I dated down financially and it's not for me, and

835
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 3: I couldn't find the cute guy that I like sexually

836
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 3: that had the money. I couldn't find the mismatch. There's

837
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 3: something in my brain that couldn't register that. Also, I

838
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 3: moved to the West Coast away from I probably would

839
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 3: have been married, had kids in Jersey if I stayed

840
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 3: in Jersey. And the men are quite different here than

841
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 3: either alpha. They go after it. They're not like that

842
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 3: back in the West Coast that the women run. So

843
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 3: I dated down. That caused me a lot of problems.

844
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: In the beginning, it wasn't a big deal, but then

845
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: they resent your success. My last boyfriend said to me,

846
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 3: I was intimidated by your success, and I never knew it.

847
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 3: The whole time. I was datium because I wasn't working

848
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 3: and I didn't get my show to the end of relationship.

849
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 3: So I thought, am I ever going to get back

850
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 3: on the air. I'm gonna have to focus on my

851
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 3: regular business, maybe get into the pheromohone business, like I

852
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 3: wasn't thinking I was going to go back on TV,

853
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 3: and so he said he was intimidated. He also, I

854
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 3: leave a very healthy lifestyle. He likes to drink, so

855
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 3: he said, you know, I'm nervous about your healthy lifestyle, which,

856
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 3: by the way, he lost twenty pounds because of me,

857
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 3: and I cleaned him up, and so he asked me

858
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 3: to marry him. So I had everyone asking me to

859
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 3: marry him. I chose not to cross that street. Like

860
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 3: he said, let's get engaged, let's move in together, and

861
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: I said, okay, let's see what happens. And I was

862
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 3: very cautious about it. As I get older, you get

863
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 3: more cautious. So it wasn't like I don't get offers.

864
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 2: I just have no.

865
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 1: And I feel like I've heard you say that before,

866
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: but it just must be so tedious to have, Like

867
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: you know, you're sitting there, you're helping people.

868
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: It's not that can't be an easy thing.

869
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 3: It used to hurt me when I was on a

870
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 3: millionaire match making sure I became my metric or engaged.

871
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 3: I came on at the end of it. I lived

872
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 3: with my ex David a different day of it, and

873
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 3: then I went to Wei and we I was single,

874
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 3: so it was like I'd gotten it over and over again.

875
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 3: And you know, if financially it's not like if even

876
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 3: if they make less money, there are certain things that

877
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 3: I want, like what Amanda's doing from Summerhouse, who was

878
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 3: on Watch what Happens with Me? She said, you know,

879
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 3: cafes all the bills, but I buy the groceries, and

880
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 3: you know, I get him this and I do that,

881
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 3: and it's kind of like what I wanted, you know.

882
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 3: And it was hard to find because La doesn't have

883
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 3: a Wall Street so they don't make serious money. And

884
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: if they're an agent or a director or producer, they're

885
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 3: dating twenty two year olds, so they're not They're immature

886
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 3: in their mindset, where in New York you could be

887
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 3: at a seven or eight but curing cancer and the

888
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 3: men think you're amazing because they're intelligent. Here. You know,

889
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 3: there's a lot of intelligence. I think also after October seventh,

890
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 3: a lot of the Jewish women like me who are

891
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 3: single or scared, we had like talks about, you know,

892
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 3: should we all go get guns and learn how to shoot?

893
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 3: And you know, there's not that man protecting us, which

894
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 3: you guys have as husbands, which you know, even if

895
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 3: you're more alpha than them, you still got a man

896
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 3: in the bed at night, which gives you oxytocin, serotonin, dopamine,

897
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 3: and you get ready step for your day. We don't

898
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: have that unless you probably have.

899
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 2: Does that make you want it? Does that make you

900
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: want to date Jewish men? What happened October seventh? Does

901
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: that make you want to find a Jewish man?

902
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 3: Or are you still I've only dated gentles?

903
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the sense that our so our podcast, we

904
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: always focus on women of a certain age, right, like

905
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: our age, so the three of us. But in terms

906
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: of meeting people now and I don't know, does the

907
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: show doesn't focus on any particular age, right.

908
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: You're fixing up.

909
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 3: People that are getting back in the game for the

910
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 3: first time. I don't I didn't follow the episode this

911
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 3: week or whatever. But there was a woman a couple

912
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 3: of weeks ago with gray hair who'd never been out

913
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 3: of the house and terrified. And there's been women that

914
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 3: have been raped on the show. There have been women

915
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 3: who've been left at the altar on the show. There's

916
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 3: like really cases because when you go to their history,

917
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 3: you're like, how did you how did you survive that?

918
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: You know, like, do you do you have different do

919
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: you give different advice though a women of a certain age,

920
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: So if somebody comes to you single around our age,

921
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 1: and we always say that our range is like from

922
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: Jackie's forty seven on fifty five, but let's say from

923
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: forties up into the sixties, Like what what how would

924
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: you treat a female client differently that's someone in that

925
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: age range as opposed to a younger.

926
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 3: First of all, it depending on five to do a makeover.

927
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 3: We start with a makeover, but then we go back

928
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 3: and we look at their history on the intake, and

929
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 3: then I figure out where did the did the love

930
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 3: life go wrong? Because it's a mindset thing. So you

931
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 3: could say I'm too fed, I'm too old, I'm to this,

932
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: and then the mindset takes over, and you know, law

933
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 3: of attraction says what we focus on gross, So I'm like,

934
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: we've got to change your mindset. So I said, we

935
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 3: got to look at other people like you who are

936
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 3: getting what you want. So we look at evidence. We

937
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 3: look at for evidence, whether it's somebody on TV or

938
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 3: a friend in the group. Like if a fifty five

939
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 3: year a woman just got married and I said, okay,

940
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: well then why did she get married? She better than you,

941
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 3: So I have to build their confidence up. After the confidence,

942
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 3: we then do the makeover and we put them on

943
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 3: a date, and then I refine them as they go

944
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 3: because there are men that want women like them. This

945
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 3: business that men only want younger women is bullshit. I

946
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 3: only date younger and they're only attracted to me. I

947
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: try to date older. No older men picks me. It's

948
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 3: always the younger guys.

949
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 2: I've tried.

950
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 3: Just trying a guy up. Bonnie's trying is trying to

951
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 3: fix me up with some money from Miami, because I

952
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 3: love South Florida because I grew up there. Half the

953
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 3: time I went to univers to Miami, and the guys

954
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 3: older than me for the first time because I was

955
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 3: engaged to someone older, I live with someone younger, and

956
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 3: that was kind of the turn. Because the men online

957
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 3: are letting themselves go. The women look fabulous, and you

958
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 3: look at these pictures. You're like, like, you know, I

959
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: got to go through a thousand people. When AI takes over,

960
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 3: we will have AI matchmakers and I can retire.

961
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: When you have to deal with an older woman and

962
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: you say makeover, So women of a certain age, like,

963
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: what does that look like?

964
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 3: Makeover? We're going to do a physical makeover and a

965
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 3: mental make up. So we're going to do look at

966
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 3: their physical body. Do they need to lose weight? Do

967
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 3: they need to work out, they need to change their

968
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 3: hair color, do they need to put on a dress?

969
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: You know there are people that are like live in

970
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 3: their house brows, let their gray hair go, and they

971
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 3: expect a man's going to be attracted at ment or visual.

972
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 3: There's nothing I can do. I can't change that. We're

973
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 3: going to make the best version of them, and then

974
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 3: we're going to do a mental internal makeover of to

975
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 3: what they're thinking, feeling, re enacting, still stuck on the X,

976
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 3: still angry at the AX. We have to go through

977
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 3: forgiveness for the AX and say, doesn't mean you're you're

978
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 3: condoning his behavior, but you must forgive him because forgiveness

979
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 3: is for you or you're going to get cancer for.

980
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 2: The physical makeover piece. Have you put anyone on a

981
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 2: weight loss drug yet?

982
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 3: No? But I take tars Okay. So I was on

983
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 3: a zempic. I was the first one. It was in

984
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 3: the Wall Street Journal. It's ever Yeah, well they celebrity

985
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 3: wise because I was willing to talk about it. I

986
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: have no fear talking about anything I do. So I

987
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 3: was in the Wall Street Journal article and then I

988
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 3: was on the Hulu documentary. I didn't even know, David

989
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 3: and I were. I broke the news on David Shows

990
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 3: show and then everybody was in shock, and I hated

991
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 3: it got me nauseous to call my doctor. Said this sucks.

992
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 3: I'm never doing this again. She says, I have a

993
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 3: better one. She goes, your cholesterol's fine line, you know,

994
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 3: because I've genetic cholesterol. And I said, I'm gonna put

995
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: you on terror zip Tide.

996
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: I put it on which is that one? That's which

997
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: one is that?

998
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: That's in my journal? But it's the ingredient. It's not

999
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 3: so I can make the vile go up and down like.

1000
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: It's not. But I'm saying it's like that. It's like

1001
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 2: the that's the ingredient.

1002
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 3: It's not. Everybody's got to stop saying they're the same. Okay,

1003
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 3: every single actress and every single person in Hollywood is

1004
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 3: on the drug. It's terror zip Tide because the other

1005
00:45:56,239 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 3: ones make you sick. Okay, So this is reducing the cholesterol.

1006
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 3: It's burning the fat. A zepicch does not burn fat.

1007
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 3: Zepic just makes you film. This makes you full. It's

1008
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 3: also curing Alzheimer's disease, and it's curing addiction. It's completely different. Drug,

1009
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 3: but I get the vile from my doctor and then

1010
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 3: I can go up and down. So if I don't

1011
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: want to go on let'sn't want to go on an

1012
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 3: eating binge for two weeks. I can do that and

1013
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: go back, you see, and I'm not going to get sick,

1014
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 3: so I skip weeks. I'm at twenty five units. I'm

1015
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 3: at a very low dose and it's helping my cholesterol

1016
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 3: because I don't want to go on statons.

1017
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 2: So would you put anybody? Would you recommend that to

1018
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 2: any of the like I'm taking me to every single

1019
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: or no, I'm saying to people on your show who

1020
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: have to do a physical makeover, is it do you

1021
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 2: feel like it's a different world show.

1022
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 3: I didn't do that on the show, but they asked

1023
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 3: me after we filmed what I was on, and I

1024
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 3: told them I wouldn't. That would be that would be

1025
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 3: a c W legal question because I don't hop if

1026
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 3: I can. You know, I don't know what this.

1027
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 2: But I think I'm just thinking about pysical makeovers, physical makeovers.

1028
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, but well I'm Eboddy asked me what I'm on now?

1029
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 2: Today?

1030
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 3: You heard Kelly Clarkson say she's on something by on

1031
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 3: that I don't know if she's on it, but she's

1032
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 3: on something, but she's not on nozempic because everybody gets

1033
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 3: sick on ozempic. I personally think this one is the

1034
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 3: game game changer, and there will be more ones that

1035
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 3: come down the pike. The key is where sugar is

1036
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: the secret. Insulin resistant is the problem. But to get

1037
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 3: your cholesterol inline and to burn a fat and not

1038
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 3: eat as much at the party, I don't drink. I'm

1039
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 3: ten years sober because I have headaches. I have the

1040
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 3: same thing Margaret House, okay, and we can't drink and

1041
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 3: so drinking. I tell them, get off, get off drinking.

1042
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 3: You want to feel good, get off drinking, Eat organic foods, okay,

1043
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 3: walk ten thousand steps a day. Like I teach them

1044
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 3: what to do, but what they choose to do is

1045
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 3: a whole different story. I can't make them do it

1046
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 3: because we only have forty two, you know minutes in

1047
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 3: an episode. There are two people and I shoot her

1048
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 3: for three days.

1049
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 2: Yeah's your work. Chemistry with Nick Vial is that he

1050
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 2: say it Viel.

1051
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 3: He's very different than me, and I picked him for

1052
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 3: that reason because I want wanted him to challenge me

1053
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 3: a little bit. He's like Matthew Hussey, you know, he

1054
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 3: went through his boy stage, probably on The Bachelor. He

1055
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 3: picked his wife. She went into his DM. She's quite

1056
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 3: younger than him. She was very worried about it. But

1057
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 3: they're a great couple. They have a gorgeous kid. They're

1058
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 3: perfect for each other. And he is a softer approach.

1059
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 4: You know.

1060
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 3: There was a moment where I screamed and he squeezed

1061
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 3: my leg and I said, Nick, it's a TV show

1062
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 3: I have to get you know, I'm gonna get readings

1063
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 3: here like this is and I want to scream because

1064
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 3: the guy's an asshole. And Nick's like, oh, can't we

1065
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 3: just be mellow of that? I'm like, now we cannot.

1066
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 3: This is the show.

1067
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: And he's adorable.

1068
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 3: He's so cute, handsome, he's kind, and he's all that.

1069
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 3: You know.

1070
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: I love that love that. Can I ask about one

1071
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: celebrity relationship that just confuses the hell out of me,

1072
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 2: Ariana Grande and Ethan Slater. What is that and will

1073
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 2: it last?

1074
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 3: The rumor is her ex cheated? Oh and so I

1075
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 3: think she needed a best friend to cry on, and

1076
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 3: she is. If you know anything about Wicked, this was

1077
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 3: Arianna Grande's dream of all dreams. When she attends. She

1078
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 3: saw the show She Knows Kristin Adina Forever. She'd a

1079
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 3: special with them and they said, what do you want

1080
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 3: to play? You know, and she wanted to play Glinda.

1081
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 3: I mean it was obvious, but when they gave her

1082
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 3: the role, I think she went so immersed into this

1083
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 3: role that she was husband cheating the rumor. And she

1084
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 3: met Ethan and maybe he wasn't getting along with his wife,

1085
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 3: and they bonded a lot of times. It's not like

1086
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 3: the best looking guy in the room, or it's not

1087
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 3: the you know, smartest guy in the room or whatever

1088
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 3: it is, but there's the friendship factor where they spend

1089
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 3: every day doing X, Y Z, and then the movie's over,

1090
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 3: and then you don't you miss the person that you

1091
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 3: put so much intensity into. It'd be like, okay, it

1092
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 3: doesn't soaking over and you go your separate ways.

1093
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 2: It does it last when you go in just out

1094
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 2: of like a place of like heartache and eating something.

1095
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 3: You know, sometimes your soulmates happened when you're with somebody else.

1096
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 3: Torri and Dean had that. Even though they broke up,

1097
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 3: they were together for years, you know, it's just chemistry.

1098
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,439
Speaker 3: But yeah, but the truth is, if I was giving

1099
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 3: advice to anybody, I'd say, chemistry needs to settle down.

1100
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 3: And when you got under the hooded car, is he kind?

1101
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 3: Is he sweet? Is he there for when you need them?

1102
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 3: And if she's getting emotional connection, this is the reason why.

1103
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 3: And I love areas good. Yeah, I'm just I am

1104
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 3: so excited for this movie. It's my favorite show of

1105
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 3: all time. And I'm also a witch. I've been practicing

1106
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 3: witch since I'm sixteen.

1107
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 2: Really, okay, that's a little scary, you know, it's been real.

1108
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 3: I study with Patty Nagri, who's my apprentice and my priestess,

1109
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 3: who's on Ghost you know, Ghost Adventures. She is the

1110
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 3: medium which on that biggest witch in the United States.

1111
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 3: She's one of my best friends. And but I only

1112
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 3: do good things. I'm a white witch.

1113
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: I don't say good, good, good good. Listen, we got

1114
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: enough problems in Jersey. I am so excited about I'm studying.

1115
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 3: Right now with the Romanian Witches, which are the biggest

1116
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: witches in the world. Patty just went to meet with

1117
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 3: them and you can catch them on YouTube and they're amazing.

1118
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: And here I thought the biggest witches in the world

1119
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 2: New Jersey, right, So.

1120
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 3: Romanian witches do major witchcraft, dark magic and light magic

1121
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 3: to get rid of ancestral spells, like we all have

1122
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 3: ancestral lineage, and they clean up your vibration and they

1123
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 3: clean up the path so that the next generation doesn't

1124
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 3: repeat the patterns of the sins of the Father. And

1125
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 3: they're fantastic witches. They're working on me right now. They're amazing.

1126
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 2: Give them our number, Let's get them on the pod.

1127
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 3: Them on your show. They're on YouTube. I'll try to

1128
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 3: find them and I'll.

1129
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 2: Say, please do fascinating. Well, congratulations on your new show.

1130
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 2: We are so excited to.

1131
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 3: On your podcast.

1132
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you so lovely talking to you and

1133
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 2: meeting you.

1134
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1135
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god. I feel like she said a lot

1136
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 2: of things that I'm going to think about in the

1137
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 2: car ride home.

1138
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: She was giving us so much so quickly. I couldn't

1139
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: almost like start to take it all in absorb it.

1140
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I still maintain that She'm glad that I'm

1141
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 2: not in the dating pool.

1142
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah, me too. She's very she is very charismatic.

1143
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: There's something about her that you're just like I. I

1144
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: just sort of because I just sort of felt like

1145
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 1: I was in a trance.

1146
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 2: Well, she's very confident, Yes, she's definitely very confident. She's

1147
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 2: got a lot going on.

1148
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but just you know, a lot of like at

1149
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: our age, I feel like, how important is the physical

1150
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: make over at this point?

1151
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 2: Does it really matter?

1152
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 1: Question?

1153
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? Because witchcraft, I know that there's like they're witch Well,

1154
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 2: I'm not judging her. I think it's amazing when you

1155
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 2: find there's because they're like, right, there's witches and that

1156
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 2: they're dark. I think they're involved in like the dark.

1157
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 2: I don't I.

1158
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: Don't know if that necessarily means bad magic, but sort

1159
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: of like for what it does for me is absolutely nothing.

1160
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 2: I don't. It creeps me out. I have no interest.

1161
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 2: So the only time I would like us to have

1162
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 2: someone on, I think I know that woman Carlton right,

1163
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 2: Carlton Gebbia, I don't know. On Beverly Hills, like eighteen

1164
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: seasons ago, she was a witch. I don't know. I

1165
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 2: mean she she did like some kind of I can't

1166
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 2: remember what it was called, but it was some kind

1167
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 2: of witchcraft. Is it witch is psychic? Is that kind

1168
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 2: of the same things? Everybody who can.

1169
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: I guess it's somebody who maybe the people that get

1170
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: the little things that the people and they put the

1171
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: pins in them.

1172
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: No, that's voodoo. That's voodoo. Is that a witch?

1173
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 4: Though?

1174
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: I don't.

1175
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't know. Well, I think

1176
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 2: that's a just it's not nice to do that. Yeah,

1177
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 2: I don't think that's not nice, none of them. That's true.

1178
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 2: I tried exactly, just kidding. Well, anyway, this was wonderful.

1179
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed talking to her. And I want to

1180
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: watch the show. So the show, her new show, The Matchmaker,

1181
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 2: is on the c W and Thursdays at eight pm,

1182
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 2: So I'm going to watch. I'm going to watch too.

1183
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 2: I'm actually very excited about it. And uh yeah, okay,

1184
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 2: John Fessler, all right, you guys.

1185
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: Jackie Goldschneider, you guys, thanks for listening. As always, we

1186
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: appreciate you.

1187
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 2: See you next time.