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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We are continuing our

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Speaker 1: coverage of the war in Israel, and I know we've

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Speaker 1: all been watching as many Americans have come out publicly

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Speaker 1: on opposing sides of the war. We've seen the social

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Speaker 1: media posts that say hashtag I stand with Israel, and

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Speaker 1: we've seen the Hamas sympathizers. I think for many of us,

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Speaker 1: those who appear to be sympathizing with terrorists are quite shocking,

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Speaker 1: especially as we continue to hear the horrific stories of

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Speaker 1: people being hunted down and slaughtered in their own homes.

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Speaker 1: Some of the latest our parents being forced to watch

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Speaker 1: the brutal rape of their two daughters before they themselves

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Speaker 1: were murdered and the young girls were taken hostage. Another

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Speaker 1: of a pregnant mother who was literally cut to pieces

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Speaker 1: by these monsters who had taken months or even more

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Speaker 1: to plant a vicious terror stpree targeting civilians in Israel.

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Speaker 1: After hearing these stories, we wonder, how can anyone side

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Speaker 1: with the terrorists, But propaganda and social media influencers can

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Speaker 1: be quite well influencing. Now these folks who are siding

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Speaker 1: with Hamas, they will likely tell you they are siding

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Speaker 1: with the Palestinians, who they would say are oppressed by

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Speaker 1: the Israelis. They'll tell you Palestinian land was stolen and

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Speaker 1: the Palestinian people are now living in fear at the

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Speaker 1: mercy of Israelis. The rhetoric back and forth has become

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Speaker 1: so extreme that I felt many of us were actually

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Speaker 1: losing track of the truth. I myself want to explain

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Speaker 1: it to my own children, but the truth is so complex.

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Speaker 1: I felt we needed a historian to tell us the

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Speaker 1: true path of Israel, Israel to the Promised Land in

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Speaker 1: modern day. One of my favorite historians is Tim Barton,

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Speaker 1: the president of Wall Builders. So I'm so grateful you

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Speaker 1: are on the show today. Thank you Tim for joining

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Speaker 1: us and helping us to kind of unpack the history

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Speaker 1: here so that we can help people really understand what's

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Speaker 1: going on today in Israel.

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Speaker 2: Thanks having me on.

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Speaker 3: And this is such an important conversation that unfortunately you're

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Speaker 3: so few people know this history, and yet it's such

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Speaker 3: a polarized time and people are seeing what's happening and

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Speaker 3: they're picking sides, and sometimes people are picking a side

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Speaker 3: without knowing the history of the situation, and they just

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Speaker 3: bought into this propaganda, not knowing it was propaganda they

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Speaker 3: were being sold. And so I'm so grateful that we're

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Speaker 3: going to have this conversation today and hopefully explain to

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Speaker 3: more people some of the history and reality of Israel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially here in Michigan, I know that people are

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Speaker 1: really split on this. We have a big Palestinian population

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Speaker 1: see a real divide in the United States that we

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Speaker 1: really haven't been used to. We haven't seen people that

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Speaker 1: are so passionate about a war before in our generation.

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Speaker 2: But this is happening.

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Speaker 1: And we've seen that President Biden has come out strongly

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Speaker 1: with Israel. We see the forces building up on the

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Speaker 1: border there. We know that there is a plan of

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Speaker 1: backs Israel. But we still have these people, I mean,

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Speaker 1: especially you just saw Harvard, all of these students that

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Speaker 1: came out and they wrote this letter and now they're

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Speaker 1: somebody to fund to go fund me because they need

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Speaker 1: mental health help after signing this paper. But that to

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Speaker 1: we can make fun of that. Really it's a lack

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Speaker 1: of understanding of history. So that's what I want to

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Speaker 1: get into. I mean, let's go back deep into this.

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Speaker 1: But then I also want to say, how did we

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Speaker 1: get to where we are today? In this current war?

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Speaker 1: There's constantly a conflict over there. What's going on? Can

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Speaker 3: I think one of the things as we look back

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Speaker 2: When it became Palestine? And when did that happen?

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Speaker 3: And why is it this big conflict today, I think

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Speaker 3: it's important for people to realize that a lot of

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Speaker 3: the way we view history, we've been taught to view

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Speaker 3: it through a Marxist lens, where historically we're told that

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Speaker 2: There's the oppressed and the oppressors.

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Speaker 3: For historically, everybody falls in one of two categories, either

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Speaker 3: a bad take of humans and civilizations. Realizing that historically

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Speaker 3: history gets messy and people aren't always good, they're not

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Speaker 2: Not everybody in the nation is always good or bad either.

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Speaker 3: But when it goes back to the land of Israel,

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Speaker 3: it's confirmation of things that we find in the Bible.

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Speaker 3: But the reality is this is history, and so the

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Speaker 3: Bible was telling part of the story of what happened.

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Speaker 3: But for example, in Israel, they have identified what they

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Speaker 2: But they actually have archaeology.

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Speaker 3: That identifies things back to the Kingdom of David and

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Speaker 3: That these are archaeological things. They have inscriptions written all

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Speaker 3: history is as you look at Israel, Israel has been

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Speaker 3: in the land known as Israel, and actually their borders

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Speaker 3: used to be much much larger, but that area today

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Speaker 2: Well, King David was a real person. He actually lived

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Speaker 3: And after David he had a son, Solomon, and then

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Speaker 3: again all of this the Bible talks about this, but

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Speaker 3: this is actually archaeological historical data that they're able to

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Speaker 2: Was actually to Pelaschet and Pelishet.

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Speaker 3: The Hebrew word was referring to one of the Israelites,

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Speaker 3: So the word Palestine, which is what was Israel, was

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Speaker 2: It actually wasn't referring to Arabs.

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Speaker 3: for the next thousands of years, arguably until really way

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Speaker 3: the Muslims were the ones that were in charge of Israel. However,

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Speaker 3: at that time, the Jewish people who were there, they

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Speaker 2: So for example, saying you're an American, so.

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Speaker 1: There were still Israelis living there there, absolutely we would

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they were Jews still living there. So saying you're

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Speaker 2: It's recognizing a region and where you lived.

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Speaker 3: And really it's not till the nineteen twenties or thirties

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Speaker 3: you look at the Koran, the word Palestine, that nation

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Speaker 3: appears nowhere in the Koran. This is something that's much

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Speaker 3: course they say one of their holiest sites is over

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Speaker 1: a Tutor Dixon podcast. And I think that's something that

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Speaker 3: problem dying. Where Israel's telling people, hey, evacuate out of Gaza.

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Speaker 3: We're about to do a ground incursion where we're gonna

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Speaker 3: come in and we're gonna we're gonna clean out these terrorists.

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Speaker 2: And the leaders of a mansa and guys, don't leave.

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Speaker 2: We want you to stay.

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Speaker 3: We would rather you stay here and die, because we

445
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Speaker 3: think death is totally fine. Right, It's you're gonna honor

446
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Speaker 3: Allah and you're gonna get your virgins or whatever else

447
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Speaker 3: are gonna happen. And Israel is respecting life. Mass doesn't

448
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Speaker 3: respect life, So they don't care about the infrastructure of Gaza.

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Speaker 2: What they care about.

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Speaker 3: Is killing the Jews and carrying on their Holy war

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Speaker 3: so to speak. Now, with that being said again, Israel

452
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Speaker 3: has not been in Gaza since two thousand and five.

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Speaker 3: This has been a Muslim controlled area. Israel is sending

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Speaker 3: them a aid package.

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Speaker 1: So why do they send them? I mean, if they

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Speaker 1: had elections then it is not real. Is Gaza still

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Speaker 1: considered a part of Israel? Do they have some sort

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Speaker 1: of control over that area if hamasas Is has been

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Speaker 1: elected or how exactly does that whole split work do

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Speaker 1: they still have because they're being called colonizers, you know,

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Speaker 1: they're being I mean, which is funny because you look

462
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Speaker 1: at Syria and Lebanon and Egypt all around them and

463
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Speaker 1: you're like, man, if they are colonizers, there's really they.

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Speaker 2: Really suck at this. You know, they've got a very

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Speaker 2: small piece of land.

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Speaker 1: But this has been said that they you know, they've

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Speaker 1: done this to Gaza, But how does that work if

468
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Speaker 1: Gaza has managed, if they've elected people, if they have

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Speaker 1: their own government, then are they still under Israel's control

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Speaker 1: in some way?

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Speaker 3: They still live in the nation of Israel, but Israel

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Speaker 3: is completely handed over control to the people in Gaza

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Speaker 3: because for for literally decades, since Israel became a nation,

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Speaker 3: they were accus against them.

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Speaker 2: And again this goes back to this Marxist ideology.

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Speaker 3: There's only two groups of people, the oppressed and the oppressors,

477
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Speaker 3: and so Israel has been called an oppressor since they

478
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Speaker 3: became a nation. And this is also, you know, looking

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Speaker 3: at media one of those things. Strategically, if you are

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Speaker 3: looking at media and we see this every campaign, people

481
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Speaker 3: do this. Donald Trump was brilliant at this about labeling

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Speaker 3: his opponents with some kind of moniker that degrades them

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Speaker 3: on some level. So people think, right, it's sleepy Joe Biden,

484
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Speaker 3: as crooked Hillary, it's lion Ted Kruz, whatever it is.

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Speaker 2: He gives them.

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Speaker 3: Some kind of title and monoker, it sticks to them

487
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Speaker 3: and people associate that with them. This is what happened.

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Speaker 3: There was a media campaign saying Israel's the oppressor, Israel

489
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Speaker 3: the oppressor, and you're going, hey, on a second, Israel's

490
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Speaker 3: not the oppressor in any of this, but this is

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Speaker 3: what the media ran with. And as the media ran

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Speaker 3: with this narrative, Israel got tired of being called the

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Speaker 3: oppressor because they said, look how you are oppressing the

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Speaker 3: Muslims down in Gaza. And that's why two thousand and

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Speaker 3: five they said, Okay, we're washing our hands of this.

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Speaker 3: We're going to give Gaza over entirely to the Muslim

497
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Speaker 3: people that live in the area, and we're going to

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Speaker 3: tell them, Okay, you guys can make your own decisions.

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Speaker 3: We're going to continue to fund you like we would

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Speaker 3: every other city. We're going to continue to take care

501
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Speaker 3: of you like we would every other city. But just

502
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Speaker 3: like a mayor of the city, the city council in

503
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Speaker 3: the city can choose what they do with the money

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Speaker 3: that comes in.

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Speaker 2: Israel said, you're going to choose what you do with this.

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Speaker 3: And when you look at someone that is poorly managing things, right,

507
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Speaker 3: if you look at Detroit, easy example, right, go back

508
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Speaker 3: to the nineteen eighties when Detroit is one of the

509
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Speaker 3: wealthiest cities in the world, and then you look at

510
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Speaker 3: what's happened under Democrat leadership over the last forty plus

511
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Speaker 3: years and Detroit now has has tens of thousands of

512
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Speaker 3: homes that are uninhabitable. Right, all of the issues and

513
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Speaker 3: the problem We're Detroit, that was an incredible city.

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Speaker 2: What has happened to it?

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Speaker 3: When you have bad leaders with bad policies, it has

516
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Speaker 3: a negative impact on everybody living there. And this is

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Speaker 3: what we have seen happen in Gaza. When they are

518
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Speaker 3: showing pictures of the deterioration of the city, when they're

519
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Speaker 3: showing pictures of the problems and the issues, it's not

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Speaker 3: a reflection on Israel not being a good host to nation.

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Speaker 3: It's a reflection on the bad leadership, the bad economic policies,

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Speaker 3: the bad infrastructural development by those who have been elected

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Speaker 3: officials tho's in charge, and it's because Hamas doesn't care

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Speaker 3: about the infrastructure.

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Speaker 2: Hamas cares about killing Jews. That's really much more of

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Speaker 2: their motivation.

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Speaker 3: And again we can say not everybody in Gaza probably

528
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Speaker 3: wants to kill Jews. However, you can look and see

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Speaker 3: the celebrations that happened in Gaza, and there's a huge

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Speaker 3: portion of people living in Gaza that celebrate the murdering

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Speaker 3: of Jews, right, the killing of women and children, the

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Speaker 3: dismembering of women and children.

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Speaker 2: There are people cheering.

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Speaker 3: For that, and it's one thing, even for us in America,

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Speaker 3: when we are seeing some of these these marches through

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Speaker 3: cities and people are cheering on what Hamas has done.

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Speaker 3: It's one thing if you say that Israel has been

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Speaker 3: an oppressor and Hamas should be free, that's one thing.

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Speaker 3: But then when you see what Hamas has done and

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Speaker 3: you cheer that on, well, now you're in a different

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Speaker 3: camp entirely.

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Speaker 2: When you are cheering on the murder of children, the

543
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Speaker 2: murder of women, the dismembering of women and children, you're

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Speaker 2: not really fighting for the liberation. You're not cheering for

545
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Speaker 2: the liberation of oppressed people. Let's take a quick commercial break.

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Speaker 2: We'll continue next on the Tutor Dixon Podcast.

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Speaker 1: We have to point out here the Iron Dome is

548
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Speaker 1: there because they've never stopped being attacked. It's not because

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Speaker 1: the people in Gaza have been like, you know what, cool,

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Speaker 1: thank you for giving us this portion.

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Speaker 2: We want to live in peace.

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Speaker 1: They've had to protect themselves and they are constantly deflecting

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Speaker 1: missiles that come into Israel. I was on the plane

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Speaker 1: with a guy years ago and he we got to talking,

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Speaker 1: and he was talking to my husband and me, and

556
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Speaker 1: he said, you guys don't understand and what it's even

557
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Speaker 1: like to have a bomb shelter in your house. And

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Speaker 1: as ignorant as this is, I was like, man, I've

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Speaker 1: never thought about that, you know, because we're so spoiled

560
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Speaker 1: in the United States. But they live with bomb shelters

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Speaker 1: in their homes because they are constantly under attack. So

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Speaker 1: when people say, oh, they've been bombing Gaza, well wait

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Speaker 1: a minute. They are constantly under attack. They literally have

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Speaker 1: to have something called the Iron Dome to protect them

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Speaker 1: from missiles that are on replay almost every single day.

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Speaker 1: But this latest attack was so twisted. I mean, I

567
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Speaker 1: don't even know how to describe paratroopers coming in and

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Speaker 1: they believe that these were some of those folks that

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Speaker 1: were actually working in Israel during the day that had

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Speaker 1: infiltrated and said here's the maps, here's how we shut

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Speaker 1: down the system, here's how we get people in. And

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Speaker 1: so we know that even though there are great relationships

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Speaker 1: between Asraes and the folks and the Palestinians, there are

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Speaker 1: bad actors. I mean, like you're saying everywhere there's bad actors,

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Speaker 1: but there are people that really genuinely want to exterminate

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Speaker 1: the Jews. And we thought we were over this, I mean,

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Speaker 1: nineteen forty eight was because of what had happened in

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Speaker 1: World War two.

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Speaker 3: Right right, where it is recognized that if they don't

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Speaker 3: have their own nation, they will not be able to

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Speaker 3: defend themselves. They cannot trust and rely on somebody else

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Speaker 3: to protect and defend the Jews because it's never worked

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Speaker 3: for them.

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Speaker 2: Ever in their history.

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Speaker 3: And that's where you're right, that's where they said, we

586
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Speaker 3: have to have our own nation, and that's where as

587
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 3: they wanted their own nation, there were more people in

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Speaker 3: them dead. There's a war that is the origins of

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Speaker 3: the reinstitution of the nation of Israel. And to your point, right,

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Speaker 3: let's again back up and what just happened just.

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Speaker 2: A week or so ago. When you look at what

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Speaker 2: Hamas did.

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Speaker 3: Hamas did not target a military, They did not target

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Speaker 3: political leaders, the people that arguably would be in the

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Speaker 3: oppressor category.

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Speaker 2: They targeted civilians.

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Speaker 3: They targeted villages where people have nothing to do with

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Speaker 3: what the argument is, right, If the argument is Israel

599
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Speaker 3: is the oppressor and the people in Gaza are the oppressed,

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Speaker 3: if that's the argument, then you would target the political leaders,

601
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Speaker 3: you would target the military, because that's who the enemy is,

602
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Speaker 3: not civilians at a music festival.

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Speaker 2: Not moms.

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Speaker 3: You are in their homes with their kids, who have

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Speaker 3: the doors locked, and you are kicking down the door

606
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Speaker 3: going in, and you are raping the mom, you are

607
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Speaker 3: murdering her, you're murdering the kids. That is not how

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Speaker 3: you find liberty or liberation from the oppressor. And yet

609
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Speaker 3: that's exactly what happened. And this is where if we

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Speaker 3: just looked at the facts of what just happened in

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Speaker 3: the situation, it doesn't line up with what people are chanting.

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Speaker 3: As they're having marches in the United States and many

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Speaker 3: of the major cities of our nation, and they're taking

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Speaker 3: the side that Hamas is just fighting for their freedom

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Speaker 3: and they're trying to free Palestine.

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Speaker 2: Which also so.

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Speaker 3: There's so many levels of irony when you look at

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Speaker 3: so many people joining these movements, When you look at

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Speaker 3: people that are on the lgbtq IA right plus whatever

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Speaker 3: spectrum of the alphabet that they're on, and they're siding

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Speaker 3: with the Palestinians, they are so ignorant to the fact

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Speaker 3: that this is still when you look at a moss like.

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Speaker 3: These are the kind of people that they have videos

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Speaker 3: where they will.

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Speaker 2: Take homosexuals and they will stone them to death. These

626
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Speaker 2: are the people that are throwing homosexuals from the.

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Speaker 3: Rooftop of buildings because they believe that that's what they're

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Speaker 3: supposed to do to homosexuals is to literally kill them,

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Speaker 3: is to murder them. And we are so ignorant a

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Speaker 3: naive in America that we have bought into this median

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Speaker 3: narrative that the people of Palestine they just want to

632
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Speaker 3: be free. Well, right now, if you want your freedom,

633
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Speaker 3: you don't target women and children. You don't hide behind

634
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Speaker 3: women and children in a war. That's not what you do.

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Speaker 3: This is not a war for freedom. This is really

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Speaker 3: a war against the Israeli people and again not the

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Speaker 3: nation of Israel. Because they didn't target the political leaders,

638
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Speaker 3: they didn't target the military, who would be in the.

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Speaker 2: Category of the oppressor if that in fact were true.

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Speaker 3: They targeted people that have nothing to do with this

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Speaker 3: quote unquote oppressor movement. That is really a good reflection

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Speaker 3: of what their motives are. Their motives are not to

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Speaker 3: find freedom, their motives are to kill people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it goes to show how powerful, this propaganda

645
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Speaker 1: is in this needing to belong in the United States.

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Speaker 1: And I think that one of the things that we

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Speaker 1: need to remember in the US is that we don't

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Speaker 1: know this culture. This is not the culture that we

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Speaker 1: grow up in here in the United States. We assume

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Speaker 1: that everybody is Western civilization, but it's not. And so

651
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Speaker 1: you have a lot of people that are devastated that

652
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Speaker 1: they feel that their friends have abandoned them. And we've

653
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Speaker 1: all seen I think we've all seen the star of

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Speaker 1: David Meme that has been traveling around where they go

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Speaker 1: through the different groups, and it's like when they went

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Speaker 1: after the people of color, I stood with them, when

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Speaker 1: they went after the LGBT community, I stood with them.

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Speaker 1: When they went after the Jews, I stood alone. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's been really hard for all of us

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Speaker 1: understand how this could go on, how people can do this,

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Speaker 1: But I am so grateful to you for coming on

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Speaker 1: today and explaining this to us, because I think that

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Speaker 1: to hear the truth. So Tim Barton, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for being here much, thank you forming On, and

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