WEBVTT - Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 136 | Front Office Structure, Head Coach Coen on Current Players & Future NFL Tentpoles 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:19.920 Sign sex name don Oger. Are with me as we're 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:22.040 going to recap the Combine for you from last week 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:24.400 and also talk a little bit about free agency, which 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:26.480 is about a week away at this point. So let's 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:28.680 start out with our big things today. First big thing 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:32.559 is first impressions GM. James Gladstone was introduced to us 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:35.160 last week and kick things off right away by heading 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:37.320 to the Combine and getting to work. And he's talking 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:39.280 a little bit to us about what it's going to 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:41.280 be like getting integrated with his new. 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:45.440 Team in terms of you know, what you may say 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:48.040 is me getting up to speed. I'm going to calibrate 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:50.800 my own mode of operation to the jaguars current mode 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:54.200 of operation. One person changing rather than a large group 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:57.720 changing in the immediate immediate mode is going to be 0:00:57.760 --> 0:00:59.680 a little bit more efficient and less disruptive. 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:03.360 Brian, there's a lot of new faces around here right now. 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:05.880 They are all in Indianapolis last week getting to work together. 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:07.880 What are your first impressions of James Gladstone from what 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:08.640 we've seen so far? 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:12.199 Well, I told Jeff Logerman during our live broadcast before 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:14.399 his introductor press conference that I had talked to a 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:17.040 friend who used to work here, who now works there? 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:20.360 Who said that James Gladstone in a building filled with stars, 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:25.240 great people, very successful people, that RAMS organization has produced 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:28.480 a spider web of people all across the NFL because 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:30.360 of the way they do things. But that Gladstone in 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:33.360 a building filled with stars who shined is bright or. 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:35.360 Brighter than almost all of them. 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.520 And the more that you listen to him and get 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:41.000 a feel for a thirty four year old guy with 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:45.440 the presence, with the wisdom to say what he just said, 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:48.880 it just it verifies what I was told that the 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:50.960 guy is made for this position. And no one out 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:55.480 there in LA expects anything but incredible success from Gladstone. 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:56.160 So that's good to hear. 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.040 Yeah, he's really really really sharp. I mean and talking 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:02.080 to him a couple of times the combine. Uh, the 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:05.480 thing that stands out is his ability to communicate, and 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:11.239 it's it's difficult to overemphasize that trait in a GM. 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:14.280 His ability to take an idea, a concept, a trait 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.480 that he wants in a player and make it so 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:19.760 everybody in the organization clearly understands what a team is 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:20.280 looking for. 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:20.960 Uh. 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:24.080 That goes to messaging, it goes to player trait, et cetera, 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:24.880 et cetera. 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:29.079 Uh I I it's uh h, he's going. 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:30.760 To be really really good at this and you know 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:33.400 it that doesn't guarantee results on the field, but and 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.760 you know, because nothing does, but I H. This guy's 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:41.960 communication skills along with Liam Cohen's uh energy focus, uh 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:43.680 it gives you organization a chance. 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:45.840 Let's go to our second big thing today, which is 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.440 gonna be hunkered down when we're talking about getting things going, 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:50.720 you know, hitting the ground running with them. 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:52.320 Of course, James Gladstone. 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:54.400 Talked a little bit about with the new EVP Tony Bsseli, 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:56.160 and of course new head coach Lilliam Cohen, all of 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:59.839 them traveled to Indianapolis together, had a hunkered down right. 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:03.120 The fact that we're a new coaching staff, a new 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.080 general manager working with our scouting staff, this is a 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:08.760 great opportunity for an off site and just build some 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:12.880 of the connective kissue that otherwise wouldn't necessarily exist because 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:15.600 we'd just be in our normal mode of operation in Jacksonville. 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:19.160 John, you always send a team, if you work for 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.320 a team, you always send some people to the combine. 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:23.480 But they pretty much send everybody from the new front 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.280 office out there to kind of work together and get 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:25.880 things going. 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:28.560 Yeah, they did, and I'm not sure how long they 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.080 will do it this way. The Rams historically don't go 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:33.720 to the combine except for a small number of people, 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.120 so maybe that's the Jaguars approach going forward. 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:38.640 I think this approach this year was about, Okay, we 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:39.800 need to go to the combine. We need to get 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:40.720 this thing established. 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:44.520 They also looked at it as very much let's move 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:48.040 the facilities out there, let's move the workforce out there, 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.160 as a chance for everybody to get to know each other, 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:53.839 to build some camaraderie, to build some chemistry. 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:57.600 A very expensive team building, if you will. 0:03:57.760 --> 0:03:59.480 But I think that's important at this stage, and they 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:00.839 were certainly approaching it like that. 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:03.920 Well it's listen, it's every day now that they're back, kay. 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:08.040 I mean, these guys are here in the building and 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:12.320 they're working late nights, in early mornings some Saturdays and Sundays. 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:14.160 It's hard to take a day off when you have 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.720 as much coming at them as is coming at them. 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.360 You mentioned free agency begins next week, and then you're 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:22.000 going to have guys who are out on the pro 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.880 day tour and before you know it, you'll have the 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:29.120 off not off the field, the out of season program 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:30.920 right where the guys are back in. I think April 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:32.800 seventh is when that starts, and then the draft and 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:35.360 the OTAs. They have a lot of ground to cover 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:38.000 in a very short period of time. So that was 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:40.360 just the jump start to getting guys you know who 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:44.080 each individual person is, kind of names and faces. Because 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:46.640 now the real work begins to get ready. 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:48.680 That leads us into our final big thing, which is 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:50.720 free agency. We've talked about all the changes in the 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:52.800 off season, and now free agency is upon us about 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:54.960 a week away at this point. So Brian, when you're 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.440 looking at what the players are going to be in 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:59.560 this because in the past the Jaguars have had to 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:01.160 do a lot a free agency, but now with a 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:03.200 new coaching staff, you might have to address the needs 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:04.960 as well. So do we have any inkling of which 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:06.000 way they might be going with that? 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:06.719 Not really. 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:10.720 I mean, listen, the DNA of this organization has been 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:14.760 to use free agency to build the roster, but all 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:16.960 at the same time professing they didn't want to do 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:17.560 it that way. 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:19.520 The most successful. 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:22.800 Teams in the last ten years, fifteen years, maybe the 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:26.160 modern era of the NFL have built through the draft. 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.320 Now you're talking about a very strong Rams presence in 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:32.000 the building now, and they're asymmetrical thinkers. I mean, they 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:34.560 were trading first round picks to grab veteran guys. We 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:37.400 know about Jalen Ramsey and many many others, Dante Fowler, 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:40.320 junior players who ended up out there. So it'll be 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:42.960 interesting to see how it evolves. It'll depend on their 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:46.080 evaluation of the roster. Do there a couple guys here 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.120 they could move with. They've got some room they could 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.320 play if they want. I just don't know whether they 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:50.880 want to or not. 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:54.920 John, Yeah, I think they'll They'll have a plan. They'll 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.880 go after some guys, some trades. 0:05:58.160 --> 0:05:58.680 It's important. 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:01.320 Remember the Rams did what Brian talking about when they 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:03.440 were going after it, and they feel like they were 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:06.000 close to the Super Bowl. I don't think the Jaguars 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:09.040 will necessarily try to build the roster that way. When 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:12.520 Gladstone talked philosophically at the combine last week, he talked 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:15.240 for He talked far more about the fact that the 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.880 Jaguars have more draft picks in the next two years 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.640 and any other team he likes that. I think he's 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:23.840 gonna lean toward that. No team really wants to build 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.479 their roster through free agency. It's when you don't draft 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:28.800 and develop well that you wind up having to. So 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.320 I think you will see freedency use this year to 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.039 make up for some roster holes they need. 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:36.880 They need to address quickly. 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.279 But I think overall it's gonna try to be draft 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:41.280 and developed that they just have to draft. 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:45.040 Well, just draft well, it's easy enough. It sounds that way. Anyway, Staylas, 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:46.560 We're gonna talk a little bit about what went down 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:54.200 at the combine last week. 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.520 You know what, one of the most alluring and intriguing 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.599 pieces to this opportunity was the fact that the leadership 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.480 group and the dynamic actually mirrors what I'm most familiar 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:09.480 with in Los Angeles. 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:10.280 So it was one that I. 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:13.600 Could see a clear visual for finding success. 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:15.320 So really excited about. 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.000 The opportunity to work with Tony and Liam and support 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:21.480 both of them and bring Liam's vision to life here 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:24.280 in these next few weeks into the later portion of 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:27.000 the spring, through the draft to your. 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:27.800 General manager games. 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.400 Last on the final piece of this front office puzzle 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.600 that they've been putting together for the last couple of 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:33.440 months at this point. 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:35.120 Excited to all be. 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:36.640 In place now, Brian, I think we finally know where 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:38.560 everything is going and now we can kind of get 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:39.480 everything pushed. 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:39.640 Off that way. 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:41.560 Yeah, they've got a plan and he's mentioned it, We've 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:43.560 all talked about it. We don't know exactly what the 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:45.080 plan is at this point, but. 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:46.520 They're figuring their way out. 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:48.760 John, You figure the most important thing for them to 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.920 be doing right now is to have a full evaluation 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:55.280 of the roster. What each of these individual coaches thinks 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:56.080 about what he's got. 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.520 Yeah, and that's a lot of what last week was about. 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:03.000 Meaning the coaching had clearly grinded through the roster in 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:06.920 the week or so before the Combine, and then at 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:11.440 the Combine last week there was a lot of meetings about, Okay, 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:13.360 this is the roster, this is the free agency plan. 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.920 How do you get that going with the draft preparations. 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:19.640 It's important to note that and Glassow and Cohen both 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:22.800 went into this deep last week. This is about the 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:26.320 schedule that most teams have when you start getting ready 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:29.520 for free agency. With the combine, the cram for the 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:34.679 test phase, so to speak, is them digging into their 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.400 own roster. The coaches trying to figure out, Okay, this 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:43.200 is what we have. It's encouraging. I think that Tony 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:45.760 BISSELLI yesterday when I was talking to him for the Tony. 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:51.400 Biselli podcast, the EVP podcast Call It said Gladstone's interpretation 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:55.679 of the roster already was dead on, very in line 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:57.880 with what Tony had seen. 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:02.319 And Tony is, I guess, really the guy in the 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:03.080 unique position. 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:07.959 He has some muscle memory on these guys, the ability 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.400 to absorb what they've done over the course of time. 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:12.080 Or has everybody else is sort of cramming for the test. 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:15.080 How much should be made of We talk about each 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:18.800 of them reporting to the owner separately, right, so it's 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.360 maybe not a typical power dynamic of reporting to your. 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:22.160 Boss and reporting up. 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:24.680 They all kind of will report to Shad Khan and 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:26.920 is there something he said for that or if you're 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:29.199 all actually kind of working together on the same page, 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:31.440 hopefully there's not a ton of infighting that you really 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:32.760 need to be going around each other. 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:37.280 Well, they were very deliberate in their timeline to grab 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:39.640 the right general manager because it was pretty clear, I mean, 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.720 Liam is the leader over here in terms of football, 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:46.360 and Tony's gonna handle football operations, and Sead said at 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:48.240 the introductor news conference last week that what he was 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:50.800 really looking for was a group of three guys who 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:52.960 could work together so he didn't have to be the 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:53.600 guy who. 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:54.040 Was the thread. 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:56.520 And at various times he has had to be that guy. 0:09:56.640 --> 0:10:00.600 So I guess that Gladstone coming in and the aliberate 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:02.959 way that they went about finding the right guy means 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.400 that those three men will be able to put their 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:09.000 finger on the right moves, whether it's free agency, the draft, 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:12.440 the execution from a football operation standpoint, and all three 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:15.360 will communicate to the owner, who's not going to necessarily 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:17.320 be that common thread like he has been in the past. 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:22.560 Yeah, there's certainly this plan works until you're oh to 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:27.280 thirteen and everybody's like mad at each other. That's sort 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:32.400 of the cynicists or cynical person's point of view. But 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:36.000 I thought Cohen said it best last week when he said, look, 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:40.600 if we're grinding through and talking about a player and 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.360 we just can't find middle ground, this is clearly the 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:45.720 way the rams work. Because Glaston said a couple of times, 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:49.040 well then we move on from the player, and I 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:51.439 think that makes the most sense the Coen's going to 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:52.200 be coaching the team. 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:54.160 Glastone won't be involved with that. 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:58.720 So this, you know, final say thing comes down to 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.360 those rare occasions, and it doesn't happen that often, even 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:04.840 when guys aren't getting along, when you just can't agree. 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:08.240 And I think they both saw with the Rams that 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.680 you can get to a certain point and then you 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.480 get a feeling of you know what, if we're at 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:17.200 odds about this guy, then he's not going to work here. 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:20.040 It doesn't make any sense. So I think it works fine. 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.240 Look, it became a storyline in the early nineties when 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.439 Bill Parcells left the Giants and went to the Patriots. 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.760 He had a general manager everywhere he was and he 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:29.000 uttered the famous line, if I'm going to cook the meal, 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:31.319 I should be able to go and buy the groceries. 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:35.000 And at various times that's worked. The model that really 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.400 has worked is what's worked in Kansas City in recent years, 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:40.560 and that is that Andy Reard hired Brent Viach, who 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:42.599 is his GM, and he gets him the players that 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:43.240 he wants. 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:47.200 That's the model that works. However they structure. 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:50.280 It, reporting to the owner. Liam had a strong say 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:52.400 in who the general manager was going to be because 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.560 those two men had to be able to communicate about 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.640 exactly the players he wanted to make the system. John said, 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.640 Liam's coaching the team. Gladstone's job to bring him the 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:01.920 players that he wants. 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:05.720 I think the phrase coach centric organization which has kicked around, 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.720 and SHOT's really talked about that really now since the 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:12.640 urban Meyer higher that, you know that's what he wants. 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:17.120 It's certainly what Bisselli believes he's here to do. 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:21.319 He said any number of times, I'm the left tackle 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:24.480 of the organization. I'm here to support what's going on. 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:27.040 And I think that's really the spirit of what Gladstone 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:27.640 and b Besselli are. 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:27.880 You know. 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.320 The other thing about Tony is he's a common sense guy, right. 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:33.400 I mean he understands people, knowing from happy hour with 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:35.800 Pete where the two were, you know, butt heads in 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:39.040 battle and spar verbally. But Tony's a guy who can 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:40.880 bring consensus to a room as well. I've seen it 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:42.839 over time. He's a guy who can sit in there 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:46.120 and talk through some things. He's got a little diplomat 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:48.120 in him. People don't give him credit for that. 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:49.679 I think it's the offensive lineman in him. 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.040 You got to get everybody on the same page together. 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:53.959 In the Jaggars Golden Ear, he was the leader in 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.400 the locker room, not the quarterback, not the receiver, and 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:59.120 no one on defense. Tony Boselli was the leader, and 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.640 he understood that he had to set the tone, and 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:04.080 at times in this new arrangement, there may be times 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.200 where he has to help bring everyone together for the 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:07.080 common tone. 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:09.800 We're talking a little bit about James Gladston because he's 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.040 the newest addition to this thirty four years old. Obviously 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:15.840 it's a youth movement all around here in Jacksonville right now, John, 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:17.559 did you hear anything at the combine? Obviously you don't 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.800 hear a ton about front office people until they take 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:21.000 over as a GM somewhere. 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:22.079 So what have we heard so. 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:22.679 Far about him? 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:27.640 Well, basically that what you see in the press conferences 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:30.920 is what he is meaning. Sean McVay was on the 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:36.000 Pat McAfee show and pretty insightful in terms of saying 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:39.880 exactly what we've already said about James Gladstone, his ability 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:44.040 to communicate. I think Shawn's quote was I could just 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:45.800 sit in the room and listen to this guy, and 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:48.720 you can kind of see that when he's on the podium, 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:53.120 even though he's only thirty four. He has an interesting 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:56.240 way of talking about things. It's easy to see how 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.800 if you're a wide receivers coach or an area scout, 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.680 you sit and you listen to this guy and you 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:06.200 know what he's talking about. And that's really the important 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:09.520 trade of this general manager position. That person has to 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:13.320 make sure that everybody who's involved with talent acquisition with 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:18.080 direction understands what we're looking for in a special team 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.720 or in an offensive alignment, and they also be on 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:21.640 the same page. 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:23.160 That's not that easy to do. 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:31.120 It's a job of intelligence, player evaluation, but more than anything, 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:33.400 it's a job of communication because you're dealing with a 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:34.240 lot of moving parts. 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:35.960 I had it explained to me by somebody in Los 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:39.560 Angeles who said that he is where he is because 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:42.880 he was never scared to step into a challenging situation 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:45.040 that maybe exceeded his skill set when he got there 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:48.240 in twenty sixteen and went out there with less need, 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:51.480 and it quickly became apparent that he could work his 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:55.880 way through situations that were maybe beyond him at the point, 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.640 and he raced to this point where he now nine 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:01.400 years later, is the general manager because he is able 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:04.160 to see situations for what they are and work right 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:07.400 through them. He always took on the big challenge, and. 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:08.240 It's gonna be a challenge. 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:10.960 It's gonna be a good challenge. Stay with here on JAGSZAM. 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:12.440 Coming up after the break, we'll talk a little bit 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:14.120 about free agency and the draft and what. 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:15.400 The focuses might be for the Jacks. 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.720 Well in the coolest office space in Jacksonville's the fly 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:28.960 online at Magellan Logistics dot com. 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:32.520 He's so dynamic, being able to move him around where 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:34.960 you saw him at LSU, maybe not do some of 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:38.480 those things right where he was mostly outside running more 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:43.320 linear routes, vertical posts, some overs and then this stop, 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:46.080 you know, so the ability for him to snap down, 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.800 get in the slot, be able to run some of 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.720 the choice routes, lookie routes, and then oh, by the way, 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:53.560 you can throw him a screen and he can go 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:56.400 do something with it. You know, our past game will 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.120 run through him. And super excited to get to work 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:00.360 with him. 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:02.040 I mean you have to be excited to get to 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:04.360 work with Brian Thomas Junior. Obviously, Liam Colin talking about 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:06.640 BTJ and what he's gonna be able to do with 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:08.720 him going forward. I'm excited to see his second season 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:10.360 as well, cause we saw him develop as the season 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:12.720 went along. Maybe that second half even with Mac Jones 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.840 at quarterback when he was able to do. Second year 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.280 is gonna be fun. Well, working with Trevor Lawrence consistently, 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:20.160 it would be fun. I mean, if you look back 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.160 at Trevor, he is good at throwing the deep ball, 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:24.840 and we saw a few of those shots with Brian 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:27.960 last year, the one in particular against the Patriots at Wembley. 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:29.360 Yeah. 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:32.480 W When you consider what Brian was able to do 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.080 with Mac, who does not have the deep ball accuracy 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:37.600 or even the deep bowl arm that Trevor does, it's 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:38.600 easy to get excited. 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:38.920 Yeah. 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:40.640 And then there was the play against the Colts here 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:43.320 when he basically showed everybody how he can separate and 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:48.480 uh hit that second gear clearly at as Liam said, 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:49.200 the offense. 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:50.239 Will run through him. 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:53.960 Uh, they have a potential franchise quarterback and a franchise 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:55.080 wide receiver to work with. 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:56.520 Uh. That's a good start. 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:58.720 Alright, We're gonna do a little dis or that right now. 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:00.640 And we're gonna go through some position groups and do 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:04.480 this or that with draft or free agency. So we're 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:06.879 looking at wide receivers. Obviously BTJ is going to be 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:09.000 your number one. You're going to run the offense through him. 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:11.600 But who's going to be surrounded Who's going to be 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:13.879 surrounding him? There's questions about whether Christian Kirk will be 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.080 here or not. Are you going to look at maybe 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:18.280 possibly drafting someone Brian. If you're looking at the wide 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:20.679 receiver groups, where do you want to see additions there. 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:21.080 Or none at all? 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:24.680 Well, not knowing what's going to happen with Christian. Even 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:26.439 at Evan Ingram, who I know he's a tight end, 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:28.239 but let's be honest, he's a receiver. He had one 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:31.560 hundred and fourteen receptions in twenty twenty three draft right 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:35.080 there are because of the way the college football plays now, 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.760 there are receivers throughout the draft, whether you're talking about 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.440 a star at the top of the first round or 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:43.960 you know, finding a good player somewhere in the middle round. 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:46.920 You've got a lot of money tied up in Christian 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:49.520 Kirk and if he's going to be here draft draft. 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:53.680 Draft, Yeah, I hope both Christian and Evan are here. 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:56.879 For the purposes of this question, let's assume they're not, 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:59.359 because you have to have some sort of parameters. I 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.840 to answer the quest question, I think if they're not, 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.639 then I think you could see an element of both 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:10.639 a receiver, meaning either a relatively high profile free agent 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:15.280 lower receiver or vice versa. If I had to lean, 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:19.280