1 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: Sign sex name don Oger. Are with me as we're 2 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: going to recap the Combine for you from last week 3 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: and also talk a little bit about free agency, which 4 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: is about a week away at this point. So let's 5 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: start out with our big things today. First big thing 6 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: is first impressions GM. James Gladstone was introduced to us 7 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: last week and kick things off right away by heading 8 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: to the Combine and getting to work. And he's talking 9 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: a little bit to us about what it's going to 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: be like getting integrated with his new. 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: Team in terms of you know, what you may say 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: is me getting up to speed. I'm going to calibrate 13 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: my own mode of operation to the jaguars current mode 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: of operation. One person changing rather than a large group 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: changing in the immediate immediate mode is going to be 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: a little bit more efficient and less disruptive. 17 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: Brian, there's a lot of new faces around here right now. 18 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: They are all in Indianapolis last week getting to work together. 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: What are your first impressions of James Gladstone from what 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: we've seen so far? 21 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 3: Well, I told Jeff Logerman during our live broadcast before 22 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 3: his introductor press conference that I had talked to a 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 3: friend who used to work here, who now works there? 24 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: Who said that James Gladstone in a building filled with stars, 25 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 3: great people, very successful people, that RAMS organization has produced 26 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 3: a spider web of people all across the NFL because 27 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: of the way they do things. But that Gladstone in 28 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 3: a building filled with stars who shined is bright or. 29 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 4: Brighter than almost all of them. 30 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 3: And the more that you listen to him and get 31 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: a feel for a thirty four year old guy with 32 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: the presence, with the wisdom to say what he just said, 33 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: it just it verifies what I was told that the 34 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: guy is made for this position. And no one out 35 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: there in LA expects anything but incredible success from Gladstone. 36 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 4: So that's good to hear. 37 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's really really really sharp. I mean and talking 38 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 5: to him a couple of times the combine. Uh, the 39 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 5: thing that stands out is his ability to communicate, and 40 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 5: it's it's difficult to overemphasize that trait in a GM. 41 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 5: His ability to take an idea, a concept, a trait 42 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 5: that he wants in a player and make it so 43 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 5: everybody in the organization clearly understands what a team is 44 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 5: looking for. 45 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 6: Uh. 46 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 5: That goes to messaging, it goes to player trait, et cetera, 47 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 5: et cetera. 48 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 6: Uh I I it's uh h, he's going. 49 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 5: To be really really good at this and you know 50 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 5: it that doesn't guarantee results on the field, but and 51 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 5: you know, because nothing does, but I H. This guy's 52 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 5: communication skills along with Liam Cohen's uh energy focus, uh 53 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 5: it gives you organization a chance. 54 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: Let's go to our second big thing today, which is 55 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: gonna be hunkered down when we're talking about getting things going, 56 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: you know, hitting the ground running with them. 57 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 6: Of course, James Gladstone. 58 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: Talked a little bit about with the new EVP Tony Bsseli, 59 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: and of course new head coach Lilliam Cohen, all of 60 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 1: them traveled to Indianapolis together, had a hunkered down right. 61 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: The fact that we're a new coaching staff, a new 62 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 2: general manager working with our scouting staff, this is a 63 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: great opportunity for an off site and just build some 64 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: of the connective kissue that otherwise wouldn't necessarily exist because 65 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: we'd just be in our normal mode of operation in Jacksonville. 66 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: John, you always send a team, if you work for 67 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: a team, you always send some people to the combine. 68 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: But they pretty much send everybody from the new front 69 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: office out there to kind of work together and get 70 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: things going. 71 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, they did, and I'm not sure how long they 72 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 5: will do it this way. The Rams historically don't go 73 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 5: to the combine except for a small number of people, 74 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 5: so maybe that's the Jaguars approach going forward. 75 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 6: I think this approach this year was about, Okay, we 76 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 6: need to go to the combine. We need to get 77 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 6: this thing established. 78 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 5: They also looked at it as very much let's move 79 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 5: the facilities out there, let's move the workforce out there, 80 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 5: as a chance for everybody to get to know each other, 81 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 5: to build some camaraderie, to build some chemistry. 82 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 6: A very expensive team building, if you will. 83 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 5: But I think that's important at this stage, and they 84 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 5: were certainly approaching it like that. 85 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: Well it's listen, it's every day now that they're back, kay. 86 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 3: I mean, these guys are here in the building and 87 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 3: they're working late nights, in early mornings some Saturdays and Sundays. 88 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: It's hard to take a day off when you have 89 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 3: as much coming at them as is coming at them. 90 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 3: You mentioned free agency begins next week, and then you're 91 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 3: going to have guys who are out on the pro 92 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: day tour and before you know it, you'll have the 93 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: off not off the field, the out of season program 94 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 3: right where the guys are back in. I think April 95 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 3: seventh is when that starts, and then the draft and 96 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 3: the OTAs. They have a lot of ground to cover 97 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: in a very short period of time. So that was 98 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 3: just the jump start to getting guys you know who 99 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 3: each individual person is, kind of names and faces. Because 100 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: now the real work begins to get ready. 101 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: That leads us into our final big thing, which is 102 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: free agency. We've talked about all the changes in the 103 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: off season, and now free agency is upon us about 104 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: a week away at this point. So Brian, when you're 105 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: looking at what the players are going to be in 106 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: this because in the past the Jaguars have had to 107 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: do a lot a free agency, but now with a 108 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: new coaching staff, you might have to address the needs 109 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: as well. So do we have any inkling of which 110 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: way they might be going with that? 111 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 6: Not really. 112 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, the DNA of this organization has been 113 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: to use free agency to build the roster, but all 114 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 3: at the same time professing they didn't want to do 115 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: it that way. 116 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 4: The most successful. 117 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: Teams in the last ten years, fifteen years, maybe the 118 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 3: modern era of the NFL have built through the draft. 119 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: Now you're talking about a very strong Rams presence in 120 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 3: the building now, and they're asymmetrical thinkers. I mean, they 121 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: were trading first round picks to grab veteran guys. We 122 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: know about Jalen Ramsey and many many others, Dante Fowler, 123 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 3: junior players who ended up out there. So it'll be 124 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: interesting to see how it evolves. It'll depend on their 125 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 3: evaluation of the roster. Do there a couple guys here 126 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 3: they could move with. They've got some room they could 127 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: play if they want. I just don't know whether they 128 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 3: want to or not. 129 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 5: John, Yeah, I think they'll They'll have a plan. They'll 130 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 5: go after some guys, some trades. 131 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 6: It's important. 132 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 5: Remember the Rams did what Brian talking about when they 133 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 5: were going after it, and they feel like they were 134 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 5: close to the Super Bowl. I don't think the Jaguars 135 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 5: will necessarily try to build the roster that way. When 136 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 5: Gladstone talked philosophically at the combine last week, he talked 137 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 5: for He talked far more about the fact that the 138 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 5: Jaguars have more draft picks in the next two years 139 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 5: and any other team he likes that. I think he's 140 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 5: gonna lean toward that. No team really wants to build 141 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 5: their roster through free agency. It's when you don't draft 142 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 5: and develop well that you wind up having to. So 143 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 5: I think you will see freedency use this year to 144 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 5: make up for some roster holes they need. 145 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 6: They need to address quickly. 146 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 5: But I think overall it's gonna try to be draft 147 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 5: and developed that they just have to draft. 148 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: Well, just draft well, it's easy enough. It sounds that way. Anyway, Staylas, 149 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a little bit about what went down 150 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: at the combine last week. 151 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: You know what, one of the most alluring and intriguing 152 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 2: pieces to this opportunity was the fact that the leadership 153 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 2: group and the dynamic actually mirrors what I'm most familiar 154 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 2: with in Los Angeles. 155 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 6: So it was one that I. 156 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: Could see a clear visual for finding success. 157 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 4: So really excited about. 158 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: The opportunity to work with Tony and Liam and support 159 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: both of them and bring Liam's vision to life here 160 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: in these next few weeks into the later portion of 161 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: the spring, through the draft to your. 162 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 6: General manager games. 163 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: Last on the final piece of this front office puzzle 164 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: that they've been putting together for the last couple of 165 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: months at this point. 166 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 6: Excited to all be. 167 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: In place now, Brian, I think we finally know where 168 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: everything is going and now we can kind of get 169 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: everything pushed. 170 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 4: Off that way. 171 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got a plan and he's mentioned it, We've 172 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: all talked about it. We don't know exactly what the 173 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: plan is at this point, but. 174 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 4: They're figuring their way out. 175 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: John, You figure the most important thing for them to 176 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: be doing right now is to have a full evaluation 177 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 3: of the roster. What each of these individual coaches thinks 178 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: about what he's got. 179 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's a lot of what last week was about. 180 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 5: Meaning the coaching had clearly grinded through the roster in 181 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 5: the week or so before the Combine, and then at 182 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 5: the Combine last week there was a lot of meetings about, Okay, 183 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 5: this is the roster, this is the free agency plan. 184 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 5: How do you get that going with the draft preparations. 185 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 5: It's important to note that and Glassow and Cohen both 186 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 5: went into this deep last week. This is about the 187 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 5: schedule that most teams have when you start getting ready 188 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 5: for free agency. With the combine, the cram for the 189 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 5: test phase, so to speak, is them digging into their 190 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 5: own roster. The coaches trying to figure out, Okay, this 191 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 5: is what we have. It's encouraging. I think that Tony 192 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 5: BISSELLI yesterday when I was talking to him for the Tony. 193 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 7: Biselli podcast, the EVP podcast Call It said Gladstone's interpretation 194 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 7: of the roster already was dead on, very in line 195 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 7: with what Tony had seen. 196 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 6: And Tony is, I guess, really the guy in the 197 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 6: unique position. 198 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 5: He has some muscle memory on these guys, the ability 199 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 5: to absorb what they've done over the course of time. 200 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 6: Or has everybody else is sort of cramming for the test. 201 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: How much should be made of We talk about each 202 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: of them reporting to the owner separately, right, so it's 203 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: maybe not a typical power dynamic of reporting to your. 204 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 6: Boss and reporting up. 205 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: They all kind of will report to Shad Khan and 206 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: is there something he said for that or if you're 207 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: all actually kind of working together on the same page, 208 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: hopefully there's not a ton of infighting that you really 209 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: need to be going around each other. 210 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 3: Well, they were very deliberate in their timeline to grab 211 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: the right general manager because it was pretty clear, I mean, 212 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 3: Liam is the leader over here in terms of football, 213 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 3: and Tony's gonna handle football operations, and Sead said at 214 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 3: the introductor news conference last week that what he was 215 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: really looking for was a group of three guys who 216 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 3: could work together so he didn't have to be the 217 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 3: guy who. 218 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 4: Was the thread. 219 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: And at various times he has had to be that guy. 220 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 3: So I guess that Gladstone coming in and the aliberate 221 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 3: way that they went about finding the right guy means 222 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: that those three men will be able to put their 223 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 3: finger on the right moves, whether it's free agency, the draft, 224 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 3: the execution from a football operation standpoint, and all three 225 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: will communicate to the owner, who's not going to necessarily 226 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 3: be that common thread like he has been in the past. 227 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's certainly this plan works until you're oh to 228 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 5: thirteen and everybody's like mad at each other. That's sort 229 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 5: of the cynicists or cynical person's point of view. But 230 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 5: I thought Cohen said it best last week when he said, look, 231 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 5: if we're grinding through and talking about a player and 232 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 5: we just can't find middle ground, this is clearly the 233 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 5: way the rams work. Because Glaston said a couple of times, 234 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 5: well then we move on from the player, and I 235 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 5: think that makes the most sense the Coen's going to 236 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 5: be coaching the team. 237 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 6: Glastone won't be involved with that. 238 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 5: So this, you know, final say thing comes down to 239 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 5: those rare occasions, and it doesn't happen that often, even 240 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 5: when guys aren't getting along, when you just can't agree. 241 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 5: And I think they both saw with the Rams that 242 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 5: you can get to a certain point and then you 243 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 5: get a feeling of you know what, if we're at 244 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 5: odds about this guy, then he's not going to work here. 245 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 6: It doesn't make any sense. So I think it works fine. 246 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 3: Look, it became a storyline in the early nineties when 247 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 3: Bill Parcells left the Giants and went to the Patriots. 248 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: He had a general manager everywhere he was and he 249 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 3: uttered the famous line, if I'm going to cook the meal, 250 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 3: I should be able to go and buy the groceries. 251 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: And at various times that's worked. The model that really 252 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 3: has worked is what's worked in Kansas City in recent years, 253 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 3: and that is that Andy Reard hired Brent Viach, who 254 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,599 Speaker 3: is his GM, and he gets him the players that 255 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: he wants. 256 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 4: That's the model that works. However they structure. 257 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 3: It, reporting to the owner. Liam had a strong say 258 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 3: in who the general manager was going to be because 259 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 3: those two men had to be able to communicate about 260 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: exactly the players he wanted to make the system. John said, 261 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: Liam's coaching the team. Gladstone's job to bring him the 262 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 3: players that he wants. 263 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 5: I think the phrase coach centric organization which has kicked around, 264 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 5: and SHOT's really talked about that really now since the 265 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 5: urban Meyer higher that, you know that's what he wants. 266 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 6: It's certainly what Bisselli believes he's here to do. 267 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 5: He said any number of times, I'm the left tackle 268 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 5: of the organization. I'm here to support what's going on. 269 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 5: And I think that's really the spirit of what Gladstone 270 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 5: and b Besselli are. 271 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: You know. 272 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 3: The other thing about Tony is he's a common sense guy, right. 273 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 3: I mean he understands people, knowing from happy hour with 274 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 3: Pete where the two were, you know, butt heads in 275 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 3: battle and spar verbally. But Tony's a guy who can 276 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: bring consensus to a room as well. I've seen it 277 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 3: over time. He's a guy who can sit in there 278 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 3: and talk through some things. He's got a little diplomat 279 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 3: in him. People don't give him credit for that. 280 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: I think it's the offensive lineman in him. 281 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 6: You got to get everybody on the same page together. 282 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 3: In the Jaggars Golden Ear, he was the leader in 283 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 3: the locker room, not the quarterback, not the receiver, and 284 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 3: no one on defense. Tony Boselli was the leader, and 285 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: he understood that he had to set the tone, and 286 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 3: at times in this new arrangement, there may be times 287 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 3: where he has to help bring everyone together for the 288 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 3: common tone. 289 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: We're talking a little bit about James Gladston because he's 290 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: the newest addition to this thirty four years old. Obviously 291 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: it's a youth movement all around here in Jacksonville right now, John, 292 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: did you hear anything at the combine? Obviously you don't 293 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: hear a ton about front office people until they take 294 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: over as a GM somewhere. 295 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 6: So what have we heard so. 296 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 4: Far about him? 297 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 5: Well, basically that what you see in the press conferences 298 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 5: is what he is meaning. Sean McVay was on the 299 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 5: Pat McAfee show and pretty insightful in terms of saying 300 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 5: exactly what we've already said about James Gladstone, his ability 301 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 5: to communicate. I think Shawn's quote was I could just 302 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 5: sit in the room and listen to this guy, and 303 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 5: you can kind of see that when he's on the podium, 304 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 5: even though he's only thirty four. He has an interesting 305 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 5: way of talking about things. It's easy to see how 306 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 5: if you're a wide receivers coach or an area scout, 307 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 5: you sit and you listen to this guy and you 308 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 5: know what he's talking about. And that's really the important 309 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 5: trade of this general manager position. That person has to 310 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 5: make sure that everybody who's involved with talent acquisition with 311 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 5: direction understands what we're looking for in a special team 312 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 5: or in an offensive alignment, and they also be on 313 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 5: the same page. 314 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 6: That's not that easy to do. 315 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 5: It's a job of intelligence, player evaluation, but more than anything, 316 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 5: it's a job of communication because you're dealing with a 317 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 5: lot of moving parts. 318 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 3: I had it explained to me by somebody in Los 319 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 3: Angeles who said that he is where he is because 320 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: he was never scared to step into a challenging situation 321 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 3: that maybe exceeded his skill set when he got there 322 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen and went out there with less need, 323 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 3: and it quickly became apparent that he could work his 324 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 3: way through situations that were maybe beyond him at the point, 325 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 3: and he raced to this point where he now nine 326 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 3: years later, is the general manager because he is able 327 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 3: to see situations for what they are and work right 328 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 3: through them. He always took on the big challenge, and. 329 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a challenge. 330 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 6: It's gonna be a good challenge. Stay with here on JAGSZAM. 331 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: Coming up after the break, we'll talk a little bit 332 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: about free agency and the draft and what. 333 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 6: The focuses might be for the Jacks. 334 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: Well in the coolest office space in Jacksonville's the fly 335 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: online at Magellan Logistics dot com. 336 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 8: He's so dynamic, being able to move him around where 337 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 8: you saw him at LSU, maybe not do some of 338 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 8: those things right where he was mostly outside running more 339 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 8: linear routes, vertical posts, some overs and then this stop, 340 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 8: you know, so the ability for him to snap down, 341 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 8: get in the slot, be able to run some of 342 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 8: the choice routes, lookie routes, and then oh, by the way, 343 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 8: you can throw him a screen and he can go 344 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 8: do something with it. You know, our past game will 345 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 8: run through him. And super excited to get to work 346 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 8: with him. 347 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: I mean you have to be excited to get to 348 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: work with Brian Thomas Junior. Obviously, Liam Colin talking about 349 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: BTJ and what he's gonna be able to do with 350 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: him going forward. I'm excited to see his second season 351 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: as well, cause we saw him develop as the season 352 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: went along. Maybe that second half even with Mac Jones 353 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: at quarterback when he was able to do. Second year 354 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: is gonna be fun. Well, working with Trevor Lawrence consistently, 355 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: it would be fun. I mean, if you look back 356 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: at Trevor, he is good at throwing the deep ball, 357 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: and we saw a few of those shots with Brian 358 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: last year, the one in particular against the Patriots at Wembley. 359 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 360 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 3: W When you consider what Brian was able to do 361 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 3: with Mac, who does not have the deep ball accuracy 362 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 3: or even the deep bowl arm that Trevor does, it's 363 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 3: easy to get excited. 364 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 6: Yeah. 365 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 5: And then there was the play against the Colts here 366 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 5: when he basically showed everybody how he can separate and 367 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 5: uh hit that second gear clearly at as Liam said, 368 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 5: the offense. 369 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,239 Speaker 6: Will run through him. 370 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 5: Uh, they have a potential franchise quarterback and a franchise 371 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 5: wide receiver to work with. 372 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 6: Uh. That's a good start. 373 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: Alright, We're gonna do a little dis or that right now. 374 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: And we're gonna go through some position groups and do 375 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: this or that with draft or free agency. So we're 376 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: looking at wide receivers. Obviously BTJ is going to be 377 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: your number one. You're going to run the offense through him. 378 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: But who's going to be surrounded Who's going to be 379 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: surrounding him? There's questions about whether Christian Kirk will be 380 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: here or not. Are you going to look at maybe 381 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: possibly drafting someone Brian. If you're looking at the wide 382 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: receiver groups, where do you want to see additions there. 383 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 6: Or none at all? 384 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 3: Well, not knowing what's going to happen with Christian. Even 385 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 3: at Evan Ingram, who I know he's a tight end, 386 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 3: but let's be honest, he's a receiver. He had one 387 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: hundred and fourteen receptions in twenty twenty three draft right 388 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 3: there are because of the way the college football plays now, 389 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 3: there are receivers throughout the draft, whether you're talking about 390 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 3: a star at the top of the first round or 391 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 3: you know, finding a good player somewhere in the middle round. 392 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 3: You've got a lot of money tied up in Christian 393 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 3: Kirk and if he's going to be here draft draft. 394 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 5: Draft, Yeah, I hope both Christian and Evan are here. 395 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 5: For the purposes of this question, let's assume they're not, 396 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 5: because you have to have some sort of parameters. I 397 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 5: to answer the quest question, I think if they're not, 398 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 5: then I think you could see an element of both 399 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 5: a receiver, meaning either a relatively high profile free agent 400 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 5: lower receiver or vice versa. If I had to lean, 401 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 5: I would say probably a mid tier receiver who they 402 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 5: feel like can get can fill a role, and then 403 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 5: maybe draft the position in the first three rounds ish, 404 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 5: because I think coming from the Rams, I think there's 405 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 5: probably a belief with these guys we can get Cooper 406 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 5: cup ish player. They've had success in later rounds. So 407 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 5: my guess is, without talking to them specifically, that they 408 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 5: feel like receiver can be acquired in that range. 409 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 3: Receivers become a premium position and as such they are expensive, 410 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 3: which is why I would lean into the draft on 411 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 3: that one. 412 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: A lot of these options can be expensive. We've talked 413 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: a ton about the lines on both sides. The trenches 414 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: need to get better. When you're looking at offensive line 415 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: and defensive line. That could be a focus at five 416 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: in the first round. For we don't know exactly where 417 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: they're going to go with that yet, but you need 418 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: depth on both of those positions. I think it's fair 419 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: to say. So, is this a combination of both or 420 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: do you think it just has to be draft? 421 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 3: Well, listen, it's a really good draft for defensive tackles, 422 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 3: and not just at the top of the draft. There 423 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 3: are good tackle options, you know, into the second and 424 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 3: even the third round from what I'm hearing. So I 425 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 3: would lean on the defensive side too. Young, You've got 426 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 3: a couple of young guys that you want to develop already, 427 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 3: and you know you still have Devon Hamilton here draft 428 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 3: there offensive line, I would look for some veteran presence. Now, 429 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 3: keep in mind the Jaguars drafted Brandon Linder in the 430 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 3: third round and he was an eight year starter here 431 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 3: and a really good player. You can find those guys 432 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 3: in the middle rounds if you do your due diligence. 433 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 3: But you're probably going to want to find a couple 434 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 3: of those guys in free agency as well. And guards 435 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 3: are not necessarily as expensive, so you can do some 436 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 3: work there in free agency. 437 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, Unfortunately, only if you're gonna get great top of 438 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 5: the market guy. 439 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 6: They're all expensive, But do you need that. 440 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 3: I mean, you want that, but do you need to 441 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 3: go pay the top of the market. Do you need 442 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 3: aj Can kind of guy who is a moderate price player. 443 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 6: Yeah. 444 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 5: I think on the interior of the line, they need 445 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 5: somebody to come in and be a presence and be 446 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 5: I think what. 447 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 6: They hoped that Sheriff would be. 448 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 5: Scheff was a decent player here past his prime, I think, 449 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 5: but a solid play for three years, but didn't necessarily 450 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 5: dominate the middle personality wise, didn't dominate locker room. I 451 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 5: think you'd like to find that in free agency, so 452 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 5: you have some immediate presence. Defensive line feels like, you know, 453 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 5: everybody's Maulk and Mason Graham. 454 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 6: It feels like that has a good chance to be 455 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 6: the pick. 456 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 5: Interesting, you wonder how long term they're going to develop 457 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 5: the tackle position. I don't know that they go a 458 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 5: premium there. At some point. 459 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 6: You wonder how they're going to build that long term, 460 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 6: but that's to be played out. 461 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 4: Things. 462 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 3: You look at the best tackles at the top of 463 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 3: this draft and everyone's questioning whether they belong inside a 464 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 3: guard or not, whether they're tall enough or have the 465 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 3: length to play there. 466 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 4: This is not a good draft. 467 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 3: For tackles, but it is a good draft for interior 468 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 3: off fancy alignement, which. 469 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 6: Is what we need. 470 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 4: So perhaps that's the pick. 471 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:13,959 Speaker 6: Not that all right. 472 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: A final position in group we're gonna go with is 473 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: defensive back, safety and corner. Obviously, corner depth was an 474 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: issue this year. Safety Andre Cisco's becoming a free agency, 475 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: so there might be an opening there if they don't 476 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: resign him. Do you think this is a free agency 477 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: drafting situation? Where do you think they'll go with this? 478 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 6: John, Yes, all the things. Yeah, because they've got I mean, 479 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 6: they have a lot of work to do. I mean it's. 480 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 5: You could see potentially, I Jerion Jones and Tyson Campbell 481 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 5: are the guys that I know out of a group 482 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 5: that was there last. 483 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 6: Year, will be on the field. 484 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 5: I think some of the other guys will compete and 485 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 5: maybe one of them will be in it. 486 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 6: But I think they've got a lot of work to do, so. 487 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 5: A second, third round, one first tearish guy in free agency. 488 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 5: It's I'm not trying to avoid the question, but I 489 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 5: think when you've got corner depth, corner meaning fourth maybe 490 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 5: two safeties, I don't quite know how to say where 491 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 5: they'll go with what I think they may let the 492 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 5: draft come to him and free agency come to him 493 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 5: because it's sort of you have to throw some resources here. 494 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, listen, we don't know if the Jaggers are 495 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 3: going to stay five. They might get an offer and 496 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,959 Speaker 3: they could move back if someone wants to come up 497 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 3: and get a cornerback. You know, the Raiders are shitting 498 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 3: at six. Maybe this is a spot where the Jags 499 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 3: can move back, and there are some first round safeties, 500 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: some elite level guys. I would like the Cisco of 501 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three back the guy 502 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: who played here last year. I mean, listen, he had 503 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 3: all the motivation in the world to go out and 504 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 3: have a big year because they didn't pay him and 505 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 3: he didn't do it. So I fully expect them to 506 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 3: let him walk, which means they're going to have to 507 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 3: go find a guy. 508 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: There are some options in free agencies, so I'm sure 509 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: they'll dabble in that a little bit. And we'll talk 510 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: a little bit more next week about who they might 511 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: be targeting, specifically, say with us and Jagszam coming up 512 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: after the break, we'll talk a little bit about what's 513 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: going on the runs the week Jack xam brought to 514 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: me by Prush from Florida. It's always in season. 515 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 8: The development of Baker will be different than Trevor. It 516 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 8: just will be because of the different type of player. 517 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 8: But you see a lot of the same in tangibles 518 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 8: in terms of the work ethic, the want to he 519 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 8: wants to be great, he wants to be coach hard, 520 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 8: and the process like, how do we get him on 521 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 8: a schedule, a process every single day that he can 522 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 8: follow to get him to the point that he feels 523 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 8: like he's playing at a higher level. 524 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: And con talking a little bit about what it was 525 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: like working with Baker Mayfield, but how it's going to 526 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: be different working with Tyber Lawrence, and you know they 527 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: want to get in the building kind of go over 528 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: the xs and o's. There are some limitations to that, 529 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: John with when they can meet, we'll see this probably 530 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: hit the ground a little bit more in April. 531 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, they can talk minimally because you're allowed to talk 532 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 5: to human beings. But in terms of any sort of 533 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 5: football real game planning meeting, anything like that, that starts 534 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 5: up when the off season program, and that's plenty of time. 535 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 5: I mean, that's but that'll be when the fun starts. 536 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 6: You know. 537 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 3: One of the reasons why Baker Mayfield was able to 538 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 3: take that big jump last year was because the Buccaneers 539 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 3: running game went from bottom five to top five, right, 540 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 3: So we were talking about offensive line and getting that right, 541 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 3: getting the running game going, and they proved it last 542 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 3: year in Tampaly. Improved what he can do. I'm gonna 543 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 3: be really interested in that. I know we talked about 544 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 3: Brian Thomas and wide receivers and you know that's the 545 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 3: sexy talk in the NFL these days, but that ground 546 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 3: game is going to be really important for the coach 547 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 3: to get the quarterback where he wants to. 548 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: Be and being able to rely on that consistently in 549 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: every game will be. 550 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 4: Here, which we have not had around here in a while. 551 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, Gladstone at the combine didn't reveal everything they're going 552 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 5: to do, obviously because you don't, but he did sort 553 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 5: of open the hand a little bit when asked about 554 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 5: the roster. He said, you know, the guys in the 555 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 5: trenches I'm paraphrasing, and guys who can score, So you know, 556 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 5: sort of keep that in mind when trying to figure 557 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 5: out free agency in the. 558 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: Draft, free agency begins on Monday. Things open up, they 559 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: can start talking. We'll announce things on Wednesday, and on 560 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: Tuesday we'll be in here to talk to you about 561 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: what we think the Jacks might do. 562 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 6: Enjoy your week,