1 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back another edition of the 2 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: Late Kick Extra podcast Thursday morning, November fourth, the Year 3 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: of Our Lord, twenty twenty one. I've got a very 4 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: pressing question for you. I don't even like our intro music, 5 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, and so I need to 6 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: get your opinion on that. 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: Do we need new intro music? 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: Because I can have producer Jordan find us some new 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: intro music. We cannot legally use Fleetwood Mac. I've been 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,959 Speaker 1: told that, and that's okay. I do want to meet 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: with the band down the road and at least negotiate, 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: But until that point, there's plenty of royalty free music 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: out there that we can use. Plus I think since 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: we're CBS, we can actually afford to pay a few 15 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: dollars for music. Should we switch? That's just what I 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: want it. Should we switch? Because I think yes? But 17 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: I don't really drive the show. It's your show, and 18 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: specifically on Tuesday and Thursday mornings. This is a mail bag, 19 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: which means it's really your show, and we're going to 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: dive into the mail bag this morning. If you want 21 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: to get in touch, very simple at late Kick Josh 22 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: on Twitter at late Kick Josh on Instagram. The numbers 23 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: have been steadily growing and I really appreciate that at 24 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: Late Kick Josh. Also, as you found in the world 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: of betting, for example, it's supremely important that you're following 26 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: me there. Rama Noodle Express is already two and oh 27 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: on the week. Guys, we did not wait until Saturday. 28 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: I told you the new philosophy on the Rama Noodle Express. 29 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: We are not just gonna cherry pick a few games now. 30 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: That's been my modus operandi, but our model has been 31 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: killing it this year. You wouldn't know it, though, because 32 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: the picks that I've handed out are right around five hundred. 33 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: I've limited it to about five, six, maybe seven during 34 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: the week. 35 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 2: Not this week. 36 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: We've already got six on the board. I'm going to 37 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: add some more today. We're already two and oh on 38 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: the week, so you got to be able to follow 39 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: on Twitter or Instagram to get that because some of 40 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: those games are happening even before we do our Tuesday 41 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: show and what else. Looking forward to heading to College 42 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: Station Saturday. Gonna be out there for Auburn at Texas 43 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: A and N Some of you have asked, so I'll 44 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: just answer it here. Yes, I do have fresh Academy 45 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: gift cards. Yes they are free, and yes they will 46 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: be first come, first serve. 47 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: So if you see me walking. 48 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: Around out there in college station, then by all means 49 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: say excuse me, here's the code, go like this right here. Hey, 50 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: give me an Academy gift card. Okay, well that's it. 51 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: You may say, please, but please give me an Academy 52 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: gift card, and I'll give you one if I still 53 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 1: have them. 54 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: They go pretty fast. 55 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 1: They go pretty fast, because here's the thing I've learned about, 56 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: not just our audience, but humans. When you have something 57 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: that is free and there actually is not a string 58 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: attached to it, it goes really really fast, and I 59 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: don't blame you. So with those pleasantries out of the way, 60 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: let us dive in this morning. I am looking as 61 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: we dive into the first question or set of questions, 62 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: I am looking at the updated podcast charts that I 63 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: get sent to me and wow, wow, I don't know 64 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: how you guys do it. You continue to amaze me. 65 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: We are in air, we have no business being in 66 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: so I appreciate it, and so let me not waste 67 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: your time. How about that, let's dive in. The reward 68 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: is I shut up and get to your questions very 69 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: very quickly. Several of you have asked about the playoff rankings. Okay, 70 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: but that's already forty eight hours old. We've already spoken 71 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: a whole lot about the playoff rankings. But a lot 72 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: of you specifically asked kind of a version of do 73 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 1: you think there's bias here? Do you think there's pro 74 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: Alabama bias? Do you think that the committee are haters 75 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: of Cincinnati? And so I wanted to touch on that 76 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: and to kind of just take all those questions and 77 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: roll them up into a great big ball and try 78 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: and throw you the best answer I can. I think 79 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: every human has a bias of some kind. I think 80 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: everybody in college football has a bias of some kind. 81 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: I do you do everyone does? Now, my bias is 82 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: largely correlated with this show. It is in my best 83 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: interest and in the show's best interest for the bigger 84 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: teams to win. It's good for me. If Florida's winning, 85 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: it's good for me. If Ohio State's winning, it's good 86 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: for me. You get the picture now. It is also 87 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: not what drives my particular passion, as evidence by the 88 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: fact that we went to Iowa State in week two 89 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: this year. I love the idea that we could be 90 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: headed to somewhere like Baylor next week. And so I 91 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: do not eat, sleep, live, and breathe just brand names, 92 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: although I do know when they win, it's really good 93 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: for the show because more people care about the bigger programs. 94 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: And that, by the way, guys, from a psychological standpoint, 95 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: doesn't just mean the fan bases. When I look at 96 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: our numbers and I talk about a particular program, and 97 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: you can dive in a little bit and you get 98 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: some smart analytics sent to you, you watch things about 99 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: Alabama even if you're not an Alabama fan. That's the key, 100 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: the key for those big TV ratings. You see, it's 101 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: not just fans of the teams. It's the polarization of 102 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: those brands. It's the New York Yankee effect. It is 103 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: you either love them or you hate them, but there's 104 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: no indifference in college football. When I say University of Alabama, 105 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: you either have a passion one way you love them, 106 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: or you have a disdain the other way you hate them. 107 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: And that's the key. That's the money maker. If you 108 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: ever wonder where those big TV executives are looking, if 109 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: you ever wonder where their biases are. It's to the 110 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: polarizing brands. It's not just the brands that are adored. 111 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: They want the polarization. It's like the Boston Red Sox 112 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: back in the day. I remember when it was the 113 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: early two thousands. Some of you lived through this. I 114 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: could not stand it. I grew up an Atlanta Braves fan. 115 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: Obviy. 116 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: Imagine not being a world champion this morning. Couldn't be 117 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: me anyway. I remember in the early two thousands ESPM, 118 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: the New York Yankees have always been big ESPN's located 119 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: in Bristol, Connecticut, places crawling with Red Sox fans, and 120 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: so they started to try and build the Red Sox 121 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: in the early two thousands to being presented as on 122 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: par with the New York Yankees. Well, the Boston Red 123 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: Sox are not on par with the New York Yankees. 124 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: There is no brand in American baseball that is. It's 125 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: not their fault, just as what it is. But they 126 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: started trying to present it as such. Well, I remember 127 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: realizing it, and I know a lot of you realized it. 128 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 2: You were very smart to it. 129 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: And the problem is the Boston Red Sox up until 130 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: that point, they had been likable. You know, they were 131 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: the punching bag up in the Northeast. They were the 132 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: team if you were from Georgia like me, they were 133 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: the team with the cool left field wall. And then 134 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: they were also the team that lost all the time, 135 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: and therefore they were easy to root for. But then 136 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: when a national sports network started to try and manufacture 137 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: an image in front of me of that brand that 138 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: wasn't authentic, I revolted. And so certainly I grew up 139 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: like every child worth his or her assault in the South, 140 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: being taught to hate the Yankees. I'd actually pull for 141 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: New York when they played for Boston, not because of Boston, 142 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: but because of ESPN. So that's how I grew up. Anyway, 143 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: you don't have to do that, is the point. There 144 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: are enough brands out there in any kind of sporting ecosystem, 145 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: college football included, that elicit that kind of emotion authentically 146 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: from fans that you don't have to try and manufacture 147 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: that love and that villatral. 148 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: It just is there. 149 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: So when it comes to a committee member, the hate 150 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: and the bias, well sure it's there. Do I think 151 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: it's influencing decision making? I can't dismiss it as a possibility. 152 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: I certainly think there may be some of that. How 153 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: much does it weigh in? I think you and I 154 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: somewhat would disagree. Judging by the emails that I've gotten, 155 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: Judging by the correspondence I've had with you guys, a 156 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: lot of you are convinced it is totally and completely 157 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: controlling the process. 158 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: And I don't believe that. I really don't. 159 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: I think a lot of times I think I'm jaded 160 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: towards that concept because I've heard it about media. I've 161 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: heard it, for instance, about my show. I've heard it 162 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: about other shows. And when I was growing up, I 163 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: used to think the same thing. I used to think, 164 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: that person works for that network, therefore they have to 165 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: say that because that network has a contract with this conference, etc. 166 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: It never works that way. That's never actually happening. Everyone 167 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: thinks that's happening. It's not happening. Ever been an executive 168 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: at CBS in the history of me working here, who's 169 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: ever told me to say a thing about the SEC. 170 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: Never told me to say a thing about this week's 171 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: SEC on CBS Game of the Week. Better lead your show. 172 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: Nobody does that. It doesn't work that way. And so 173 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying that because I think a lot of that 174 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: same kind of false perception exists about the committee. There's 175 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: this image that you conjure up in your mind sometimes 176 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: of these decisions being made in a poorly lit, smoky 177 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: back room somewhere, and there's this big, grand plan drawn 178 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: up on a board, and it looks like basically the 179 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: Zodiac Killer investigation. And we've got this brand over here, 180 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: in this team over here, and we got forty seven 181 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: different lines connecting which way we want this to go 182 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: and that to go. And here's why we need to 183 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: rank this team at sixteen, because this team at four 184 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: is going to play this team at sixteen, and we 185 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: need to artificially enhance their resume down the stretch. A 186 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: lot of people think it happens that way. 187 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: I don't. 188 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: I do not think it happens that way. I disagree 189 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: reasonably with someone's opinion and just stop there. It's happened 190 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: before you can disagree with someone, and then that's it. 191 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: Sun goes down on the day. 192 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: And we just agree to disagree. 193 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: But you don't always have to take the added step 194 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: of I disagree with you, and you've got some sinister 195 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: ulterior motive in play. It doesn't always have to be 196 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: that way. Sometimes it is that way, and maybe you're 197 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: right and I'm wrong. Maybe it is the case here. 198 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: I don't find it to be the case. Here's how 199 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: I choose to look at it. Because I'm not telling 200 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: you I agree one through twenty five with this committee's 201 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: initial rankings. I mean I had some things that I 202 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: had minor pushback on. You know, my general theory on 203 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: this is it is foolish to get worked up over 204 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: an initial playoff ranking release knowing you don't have full 205 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: bodies of work to judge. But that's old, that's kind 206 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: of cliched. Everyone says that to try and sound smarter 207 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: than the room. So I'm not smarter than the room, 208 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: so I don't want to try and sound like it. 209 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: Even But my general thought on this is I don't 210 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: agree with everything they put out the other night, but 211 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: I do think I can say I kind of disagree 212 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: with that, and that's the end. I haven't taken that 213 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: added step. Here's a more logic based approach. I would 214 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: recommend it ten times out of ten, at least to 215 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: a longer, healthier, happier life. What are the odds that 216 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: some entity is going to put out a list of 217 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: rankings on something that's subjective and you're gonna agree top 218 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: to bottom, the odds are nil. That committee was never 219 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: going to be able to put out a list of 220 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: rankings that you said, yep, I agree top to bottom, 221 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: we're good. That's not the way that ever is gonna work. 222 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: So you're setting yourself up if you believe that at 223 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: the slightest difference in opinion between you and them, it's 224 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: got to be that there is an ulterior motive with them. 225 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: You're setting yourself up to just be mad on Internet guy. 226 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: Don't be mad on Internet guy. You can be a 227 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: guy who's mad and has access to Internet without being 228 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: mad on Internet guy. Now that kind of addresses the 229 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: bias in the pro department. But what about the haters? 230 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: The haters that's probably in a two to one ratio. 231 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: What I was asked about most is the committee made 232 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: up of haters of Cincinnati. No, I don't think they are, 233 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: because if that's the case, that makes me a hater 234 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: of Cincinnati, because I think Cincinnati's properly ranked. I put 235 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: them about where the committee had him. Well, I know goodwell, 236 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: I'm not a hater. Like I've searched my heart up 237 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: and down, and I know I'm not a hater of Cincinnati. 238 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: So how could I possibly not hate Cincinnati and also 239 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: have undefeated Cincinnati in the six to seven range. Well, 240 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: it's because I think that's where they deserve to be 241 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: right now, they don't have as strong as schedule. I've 242 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: given you my theory long ago on strength of schedule, 243 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: and now there's a certain baseline you have to hit 244 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: or you put a very low ceiling on your potential. Cincinnati, 245 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have cared if they put him three or four. 246 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: To be clear, I would not have cared. But I 247 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: think they're ranked just about right. Doesn't always make you 248 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: a hater. It's the only thing I'm saying. You can 249 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: think less of something that I think more of. It 250 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: doesn't automatically make you a hater of that something. That's 251 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: all I'm saying. And as I've said many times over 252 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: the past forty eight hours, I don't think this is 253 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: the into the world for Cincinnati because I don't think 254 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: the upsets are over. So as long as the upsets 255 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: aren't done happening and Cincinnati avoids upsets, of their own. 256 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a path. It's not a 257 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: wide path. It's never gonna be a wide path for 258 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: G five teams. You never wake up at the beginning 259 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: of the year thinking anything other than we're gonna need 260 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: help to get in as a G five team. You 261 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: call that unfair. I would counter with this, how's it 262 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: fair for Auburn. How's it fair for Auburn to sit there? 263 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: Or Arkansas pick one of these SEC West teams to 264 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: look at Cincinnati and be told, hey, you guys play 265 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: the same sport, do we really you see these schedules? Well, yeah, 266 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: but you are what your record says you are. 267 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: You know, if you're undefeated, you got to be put in. 268 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: Well, if I'm an Auburn fan, if I'm an Arkansas fan, 269 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: I think to myself, if I played Cincinnati schedule, I 270 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: would be undefeated if I played Cincinnati schedule instead of 271 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: having to play Alabama and Texas A and M and 272 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: Arkansas and Ole Miss and Mississippi State. 273 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 2: Oh, I went to Penn State just for good measure. 274 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: Or if you're Arkansas, you played Texas at home just 275 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: for good you may think that's not worth anything. Now 276 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: when they played Texas was undefeated and had their hair 277 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: on fire thinking all the world was in front of them. 278 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: That matters. 279 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: That matters to the quality of team you play and 280 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: the pushback they give you. It matters when you play 281 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: those teams early in the season. I know that's a 282 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: little bit too much context sometimes for the old committee. 283 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: They just want to know, Well, let's look at the 284 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: teams you played. 285 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: What is their record? Now? 286 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: All right, well that's who you played. No. No, the 287 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: Texas that is long since falling off right now, or 288 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: the Florida team that's long since fallen off right now. 289 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: Those are not the teams that Arkansas and Alabama respectively 290 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: played earlier in the year. 291 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: They're not, they're not. 292 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: I know that takes a lot more nuanced in context 293 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: than understanding of how this sport works. 294 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: And we don't always have time normally. 295 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: This stuff works in sound bites and snapshots and tweets 296 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: and whatnot. 297 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: I get it. 298 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: That's why I don't partake in a whole lot of it, 299 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: even though I've spent the first portion of the podcast 300 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: talking about it. But that's what I would say to 301 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: anyone saying it's unfair, Well, I tell you, it's unfair 302 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: that in a game and a sport with this much 303 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: variance in strength of schedule, I'd say it's unfair that 304 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 1: we just think record is the end all be all, 305 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: or maybe you're suggesting record should be the end all 306 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: be all. 307 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I think i'd. 308 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: Have your same record, or have a really good shot 309 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: at it if I played your schedule. I don't think 310 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: you'd be anywhere close to having your record if you 311 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: played my schedule. Now, the Cincinnaties of the world, they 312 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: come back and say, it's not our fault. 313 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: We don't make our schedule. We just have to play 314 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: who we play. 315 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: Well, that's true, it's not your fault, but it's not 316 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: my fault. Like whose fault is it? Why does it 317 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: have to be anyone's fault? 318 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: Now? 319 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: My answer to this has always been, let me have 320 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: a G five playoff, But I always get pushed back 321 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: on that, so I've tabled it, Like that's the solution. 322 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the easy solution to this. Have a 323 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: Power five playoff and a G five playoff. No, we 324 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: don't want that, though, we want to put all of 325 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: them together in the same room. Well, there is not 326 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: room for logic that falls in line with an equality 327 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: in scheduling. There is no room for that logic because 328 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: we don't have equal scheduling, not even close to it. 329 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: Ah. 330 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: All right, well, I definitely cleared my mind of any 331 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: and all thoughts on that matter. Here is Jeff. Jeff 332 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: wants to know a simple thing. Jeff wants to know 333 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: what's wrong with Oklahoma. 334 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: Now. 335 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: Oklahoma is nine to zero. Yeah, they're undefeated right now. 336 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: They are ranked top ten in the playoff rankings. And 337 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: so if you were to tell someone who's totally agnostic 338 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: about college football they just kind of check over here 339 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: every now and then, that there's something wrong with Oklahoma, 340 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: that person would say, there's nothing wrong with Oklahoma. Look, 341 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: they got a goosegg in the lost column. They've won 342 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: their rivalry game against Texas already in spectacular come from 343 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: behind fashion. They are ranked top ten in the playoff rankings. 344 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: Everything's in front of them. What do you mean something's wrong, Well, 345 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: Jeff says there's something wrong. Jeff's not alone. Not putting 346 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: Jeff out on Jeff island, because Jeff is not alone. 347 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: There are a lot of tourists on that island right now. 348 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: Not the kind of tourists that we speak of in 349 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: a pejorative context on this show, but tourists. Nonetheless, there 350 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: are a lot of folks in that room that think 351 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: the same thing Jeff thinks. So, what's wrong with Oklahoma? Well, 352 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: I would say the preseason is what's wrong with Oklahoma? 353 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: Because I want you to answer me a question. What's 354 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: the difference in Michigan State and Oklahoma? 355 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: Right now? Let me just let you think. Let's let 356 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 2: it sizzle, sizzle, sizzle. What's the difference? 357 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: Well, obviously they haven't played the same schedule, but let's 358 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: just for the sake of broadstrokes argument, let's just say 359 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: they've both played a schedule, They've both played reasonably competent competition, 360 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: they're both undefeated. What's the difference. The difference is what 361 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: you expected in the preseason. That's the difference, because that 362 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: is framing how you view these teams right now. Michigan 363 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: State is one of the best stories in college football, 364 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: and I agree Oklahoma has the same record, Yet you 365 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: are viewing them as gross underachievers and you're punishing them. 366 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: Where the committee is all the way down at where 367 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: were they seven. 368 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: Or eight or something like that? What's the difference. I 369 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 2: think the difference is in preseason perception. 370 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: If you would have expected Oklahoma results from Michigan State 371 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: and Oklahoma's win total would be four, and Oklahoma had 372 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: all these close wins, you know what you'd do. You'd 373 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: ignore the margin of victory. You wouldn't care because they 374 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: weren't supposed to win games anyway, and so you wouldn't 375 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: have held them to his lofty as standard. 376 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: I guarantee you. 377 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: You know, if Oklahoma's win total had been four like 378 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: Michigan States was, if Oklahoma had not been expected to 379 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: win the Big Twelve, if they would have been picked 380 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: to finish fifth in the Big Twelve and they were 381 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: where they are right now, they actually would probably be 382 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,719 Speaker 1: ranked higher than they currently are in the playoff rankings. 383 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 2: Now. 384 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: If you want to ask me if that's fair, No, 385 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: it's really not. And if you want to ask me 386 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: if I believe in that kind of bias or conspiracy, yeah, yeah, 387 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: I kind of do. It's not really going to hurt Oklahoma. 388 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: It's probably gonna help them. If Lincoln Riley were watching 389 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: that playoff rankings reveal show the other night, he had 390 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: to be ecstatic that they put Oklahoma down where they 391 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: are because Oklahoma didn't have a loss. If they had 392 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: a loss, it'd be different if Oklahoma had a loss 393 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: already that maybe you perceiving it as the Committee just 394 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: put a ceiling on how high we can climb. Nah, 395 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: if Oklahoma wins out, they'll be okay, they'll be fine. 396 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 2: Also, now you get to use the thing that. 397 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: I I don't really like you using, but you're gonna 398 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: have to use it anyway. And the whole disrespect angle 399 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: and they're doubting us and they don't believe in us, 400 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: and it's us against the world, and that's stuff that 401 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: never really lasts. 402 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 2: It's like a sugar high. 403 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: But sometimes you have to use it because you have 404 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: no other alternative. And Lincoln Riley's probably at that point 405 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: and trying to motivate this team to play well out 406 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 1: of the gate, he'll probably have to use it, and 407 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: it'll probably be effective. Oklahoma's going to come out and 408 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: splatter someone in the coming weeks, and afterwards players are 409 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,719 Speaker 1: going to tell you, well, the Committee told us we 410 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: were ranked this and we just had to go prove 411 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 1: to the world we're better than that. But look, here's 412 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: the deal with Oklahoma. They've still got time. Ohio State 413 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: is this way, Bama's this way, and Bama and Ohio 414 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: State are already playing really good football. But these are 415 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: offenses with really really high end potential. I don't know 416 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: if you want to say elite, but I'm just going 417 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: to say really really high end potential. And I don't 418 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: think any of the three have fully maximized their potential yet. 419 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: I'm really excited to see what Oklahoma looks like in 420 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: the last month of the year. They're going to play 421 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: some really good defenses, some really good ones. Alabama is 422 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: coming out of the bye week about to play LSU. 423 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: You may not get the best gauge on it, but 424 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: you'll get a fairly good gauge of what Alabama's offense 425 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: is gonna be the rest of the way. Ohio State, 426 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch what they're gonna turn into offensively, 427 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: because I'm telling you this is my concern with Georgia. 428 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: My concern with Georgia is for them to win a championship, 429 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to beat Alabama or Ohio State or 430 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: maybe both, and Oklahoma could be in there. And I'm 431 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: telling you, I just know how the sport works. You do, too, 432 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: we watch it every year. At least two, if not all, 433 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: three of those teams are going to play their best 434 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: offensive football in November and in the playoff that's coming, 435 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: So they're going to be performing at a level equal 436 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: to or higher than you've seen them so far. Those 437 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: are programs that build to peak at the right time. 438 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: And my concern with Georgia and with Stetson Bennett, it's 439 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: never been about September or October or November. I'm asking myself, 440 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: can they win two or three games like that where 441 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: someone can score on them forty But make no mistake, 442 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: as great as I think Georgia's defense is, those teams 443 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: are going to score on Georgia. They're going to score 444 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: more than they're comfortable with giving up. Let me say 445 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: it that way, and that means george is going to 446 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,719 Speaker 1: have to depend on being able to score and not 447 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: just score out of convenience. That's been my concern with them, 448 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: and that's where my interest is. With Ohio State and 449 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: with Alabama, how good are they going to be offensively 450 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: because that directly correlates to what is Georgia going to 451 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: have to be able to do as the top team 452 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: in the country to counter that, But I'll tell you 453 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: what I counter that entire point with, and that is 454 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: an ad break for our fine partners be right back. 455 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: Got it in there, I got it in there. 456 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: The compliment that I probably take the most pride in 457 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: is I have developed a reputation in and around the 458 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: old college football alternate media industry of having the smoothest 459 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: ad transitions possible. I want it to sneak up on 460 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: you like a tiger at night and the tall grass. 461 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: I don't want you to know the ad breaks coming 462 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, I want you to 463 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: be like ten seconds in before you realize, wait a second, 464 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 1: that's not even him. 465 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: This is recorded. 466 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: If I've done that, I have done my job. If 467 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: I've done that, I have accomplished everything I set to accomplish. 468 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 2: When I woke up this morning. 469 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: Rolling On, Justin wanted to know about Manny Diaz. He said, 470 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on Manny Das? Will he be 471 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: back next year from Miami? Look, this is an evolving situation, 472 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: at least perceptionally. It's evolving because two weeks ago we 473 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: thought he was about to be fired, and now all 474 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: of a sudden, we're talking about him having a little 475 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: bit more leash, maybe a little bit more leeway than we. 476 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: Thought he had. Now. 477 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: Of course, that comes after back to back wins, So 478 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: let's not discount that. What I make is the whole 479 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: many Daz situation at Miami is the reason why I 480 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: do not jump the gun on calling for people to 481 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: be fired. It's why you'd never hear me say it. 482 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it about Dan Mullen right now. I 483 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: didn't say it about Manny Diaz. 484 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: It's because it's so fickle. 485 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: In Major League Baseball, they play one hundred and sixty 486 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: two games. In college we play twelve. So in baseball 487 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: you can afford to go on six or seven game 488 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: losing streaks and still win a World Series for all 489 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: you know. In football, every win and every loss is 490 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: treated like a season, and you're judged based off of 491 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: that one four quarter result. And the bottom line, if 492 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: you've ever played the sport, or you've observed the sport 493 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: at a more fundamental level, you know how many moving 494 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: parts there are in play, and you know how fine 495 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: the line is between winning and losing sometimes, And so 496 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: what I'm always asking myself before I ever think it's 497 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: time to fire someone is are we truly at a 498 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: point of no return? If we're not, you may still 499 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: want to make a move, but you better be sure 500 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: and you better have a solid plan in place. Don't 501 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: be firing someone and then not be able to bring 502 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: in who you need to bring in, or don't be 503 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: firing someone if you're not willing to also make internal 504 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: changes to where the next person is more likely to 505 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: succeed in the previous person. Well, it's not always thought 506 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: out that thoroughly, because sometimes there are knee jerk reactions. Well, 507 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: at Miami, it looked for all the world like when 508 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: Blake James the ad down there came out a few 509 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: weeks ago and did not commit to DS being there 510 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, a lot of folks around the 511 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: Miami program took that to mean, if he loses a game, 512 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: he's fired. Then they went and they won thirty one 513 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: to thirty. And then they go and they beat Pitt 514 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: in upset fashion on the road this last week, And 515 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, the talk is, well, Manny Diaz, 516 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: barring something extremely unforeseen, he's going to be able to 517 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: finish the year. But also some of the talk, I 518 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: think it was Manny Navarro over on The Athletic wrote 519 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: a very lengthy piece earlier this week about how maybe 520 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: many Diaz isn't in as much trouble, maybe the ad 521 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: there is, maybe Manny Diaz has the support. But but 522 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: but there was a big one. 523 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: On the end. 524 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: But if they do have to make a move, finances 525 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: are not going to be an issue. Now, this is 526 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: the important part to the Miami equation. And this is 527 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 1: the important part to anyone out there, because I've talked 528 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: to some people across the country around folks who may 529 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: be considered for the Miami job this year and last year, 530 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: and the pushback was always. 531 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: Miami's not a good job. It's not nearly as good. 532 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: A job as a lot of folks think it is, 533 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: because you don't know the inside. If you were to 534 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: be able to see the inside, the report's not there. 535 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: Well they know that, to Miami's credit, at least by 536 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: the words coming out of their mouth down there. 537 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: They know that. 538 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 1: And so when I'm reading that piece and I see 539 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: finances aren't going to be an issue, and it's tied 540 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: to the profit that the health program there makes and 541 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: not just what revenue football generates, Well that's a game changer. 542 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: Donna Shalala was the former president down there, and her 543 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: philosophy was, we're only gonna put into football what football 544 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: brings in, so we're not taking money from somewhere else 545 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: to support athletics with football and the like. 546 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 2: Well, the new approach. 547 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: Seems to be, no, we're gonna take money from the 548 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: university if that's what we need to do in order 549 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: to prop the football program up. Now, if that's the case, 550 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: then that is an absolute game changer, and all of 551 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: a sudden, my focus shifts. 552 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: It's not just can. 553 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: Manny d Az win now with that at his fingertips, 554 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: because here's what the argument for Manny Das is. Mannydaz 555 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: has young players impacting the program positively. That's a reflection 556 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: on his recruiting a bunch of young guys from this 557 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: last recruiting class. You got Tyler van Dyk, who is 558 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: a quarterback. He brought in via recruiting instead of the 559 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: transfer portal after King went down, and he's playing better 560 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: than King was to be Frank, So the promise there is, well, 561 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: Manny's kids are starting to shine. So once more of 562 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: his kids are on the field and the locker room 563 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: has not left him. They're fully bought in. Once all 564 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: that coalesces into a better product on the field, then 565 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: he'll be Okay, that's the pro Mandy Daz argument, But 566 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: I'll say this just to go full Devil's advocate for you. 567 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: At this point, if Manny Dias were to lose his 568 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: job this year, next year, if the state of affairs 569 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: at Miami is such that they're willing to spend money 570 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: from the university's coffers instead of just football. 571 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 2: That's a game changer from Miami. 572 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: So I know that's not going to impact this week's 573 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 1: game or next week's game, but pay attention to that 574 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: because that's big. And that goes back to the Dan 575 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 1: Mullen thing too. Dan Mullen's been in position where Miami's 576 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: been down, Florida State's been down, and they still at 577 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 1: Florida haven't fully taken advantage of it. Well, Miami's not 578 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: staying down forever, guys, Florida State's not staying down forever. 579 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,959 Speaker 1: And so if I'm Scotch Strickland, if I'm the administration 580 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: there at Florida, I'm paying attention to that. If my 581 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: guy can't get it done. When the two other big 582 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: boys in state are down, then why would I ever 583 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: expect him to all of a sudden catch fire down 584 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: the road when they certainly won't be any worse than 585 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: they have been, and they may be a whole lot 586 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: better than they have been. All Right, I wanted to 587 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: wait for the tail end. Some of you were asking. 588 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: Somebody asked. Somebody asked, why does it seem like every 589 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: college football person I follow is a Braves fan. Well, 590 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: the short answer is cause we're all, well, a lot 591 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: of us are from the South. But it also stems 592 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: from the nineties. I grew I was a kid. I 593 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: was a little kid in the nineties, and if you're 594 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 1: nineteen years old now, you have no concept of what 595 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: the TBS superstation was. But back in the nineties, TBS 596 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: was everything for us because we lived in Georgia. I 597 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: grew up in Georgia now, so I was going to 598 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 1: be able to watch the Braves anyway. What I did 599 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: not fully grasp living in Harris County, Georgia was people 600 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: in San Diego and Salt Lake City, in Minneapolis and Albany, 601 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: New York. They were also watching the Braves. Because TVs 602 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: was coast to coast and Ted Turner, since he owned 603 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: the team, was broadcasting Braves games nationally. Well, that made 604 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: Atlanta America's team. That's what they were called during the nineties, 605 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: America's team. It certainly didn't hurt that they were winning 606 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: the division every year and playing in the World Series 607 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: pretty much every year. So the whole country either it 608 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: was kind of like a New York Yankees thing. When 609 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: the Braves went on the road, they were polarizing. You 610 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: either loved them or you hated him. That have huge 611 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: crowds and road ballparks that sell out everywhere they went. 612 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 2: Well, I grew up during that era. 613 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: A lot of folks, I would assume in the sports 614 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: writing industry, especially in the college football sector, grew up 615 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: in that era, and so there's a lot of attachment 616 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: to the Braves. 617 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 2: That's the first thing. 618 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: The second thing is, it's been a while myself, I 619 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: can speak personally. When I was in middle school, in 620 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: high school, I would go to every playoff game. At 621 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 1: the time, it was at Fulton County Stadium, then Turner Field. 622 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: It depresses me to know I've lived through three Brave stadiums, 623 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: but it is what it is, and. 624 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 2: So I was. 625 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: I was there every single year of heartbreak. I could 626 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: vividly recall being there in the ninety eight NLCS, in 627 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: the two thousand and one NLCS Laws, two NLDS Laws, 628 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: three NLDS Laws four five. I was there every single year, 629 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: and our year revolved around that. I'm always college football 630 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: through and through, but Braves were right there too, And 631 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: so when you saw me uncharacteristically talking a whole lot 632 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: of something other than college football most recently, it's because 633 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: this run to the World Series for the Braves, it 634 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: kind of elicited a lot of that emotion. 635 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: Because when I was. 636 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: Seventeen years old, let's just say, and I'm in high school, 637 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: I don't even know what I would have done if 638 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: the Braves won a World Series. I don't even know 639 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: how I would have reacted. I remember being a small 640 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: kid when they won, but as an adult who kind 641 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: of understood the gravity of the situation, I don't know 642 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: how I would have acted. Knowing how emotionally attached I 643 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: was to that organization at that age, I have no 644 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: So I was thinking about that the other night, and 645 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: I was in the office. We did Lake Kick Live 646 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: on Thursday night, and then I was watching the game 647 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: and I'm all alone. I'm in a high rise downtown 648 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: in Nashville, and our office is empty. We got a 649 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,959 Speaker 1: huge office and it's totally empty, or so I thought. 650 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: So I had the game on all the big screen 651 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: TVs out in one of the main floor offices, and 652 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: when they won, I mean, I'm celebrating. I'm going crazy. 653 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: The janitor was there. I didn't know it. The janitor 654 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: was in there. And the janitor comes in but didn't 655 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: say anything. She just kind of walked down the hall 656 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: and was there. And I normally would be. 657 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: Embarrassed by something like that. 658 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: I didn't even flinch. I just went right back to celebrating. Also, 659 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: I punched accidentally one of the ceiling tiles because I 660 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: jumped at out three and the ceiling. You know, it's 661 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: not a cathedral ceiling, it's not fifteen feet high, and 662 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: so I punched one of the ceiling tiles and it's 663 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: not broken, but it is dislodged. So we've been in 664 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: that building like fifteen minutes. So we do have roof 665 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: damage already. But I really think it's a small price 666 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: to pay. And I don't know how much sealing titles 667 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: are going for. I know we have supply chain issues. 668 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm happy to fit the bill for that. If that's 669 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: the price I had to pay, that's my personal sacrifice 670 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: for winning a World series. 671 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 2: I'm fine with it. 672 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: Look, here's what I need you to do. A couple 673 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: of things. We are getting close to two thousand and 674 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: five star reviews on this podcast. Need them, Need them 675 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: like I need oxygen. That's the first thing. 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It just helps us to 692 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: keep the show free, and it helps us to show 693 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: people in management the high level mustaches love those bar 694 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: graphs and pie charts, so we want to show them 695 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: as many impressive bar graphs and pie charts as possible. 696 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: And you can help me do that, and you always do. 697 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: I'm just asking you to continue, all right. I got 698 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: to shoot this over to producer Jordan. We've got Late 699 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: Kick Live to do tonight. Thanks so much for listening, 700 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for making. 701 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: This the success that it has been. 702 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: Until later tonight, have yourselves a great Thursday, and God 703 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: bless