1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Andy and Samantha. I'm welcome to step 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: I never told your production of iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: And today for feminists around the world, we are going 4 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: down a different route. We are doing the sportsball thing. 5 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: I'm being facetious, y'all. I know many film people love sports. 6 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: I'm just not one of those people. So I'm making 7 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: fun of myself when I say this. But we're talking 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: about a Korean basketball player that I stumbled upon, Yes, 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: thanks to TikTok, and it's from next Shark is the site. 10 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: I don't follow them, but it popped up. I was like, 11 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: look at this. I've gotten a lot of Korean soccer 12 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 2: coming at my way and I've been very happy about it, 13 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: so I think this is why I got this as well. 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: But this player is actually from South Korea but played 15 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: in the US, and we're talking about Unjung e k 16 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: or e j Ok as ever. Everybody else calls her 17 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: and Minnie also referred to her, including the Sports Illustrated 18 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: at the time, as the Korean Magic Johnson. She was 19 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: so good and Annie, just sit back because I'm gonna 20 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 2: tell you all about her, okay, because I found it fascinating, 21 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 2: and also it's hard to translate to what I found 22 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: on TikTok onto writing, Yeah, that's what we do, because 23 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: you know, it's a little different the video version versus 24 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 2: us talking about it on audio version, I guess because 25 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: you get to see all the highlights and those scripts 26 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: that write through it. But yeah, So Next Shock did 27 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: feature her as one of the probably best female basketball 28 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: players ever that not many people know about, and the 29 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: fact that she's Korean. She was like five six at 30 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: the time, so I was a little bit taller than me, 31 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: but whatever, And she came into the US in the 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: nineteen eighties. Again, I was really shocked. I was like, really, like, 33 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: Korean people have been infiltrating a lot of American sports 34 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: and I love to see it, and just like European 35 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: sports in itself, and it's been fascinating to see who 36 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: those who have actually been able to cross over into 37 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: Western fame. But she is one of those, and especially 38 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: as a woman in basketball, I was like, what, so of 39 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 2: course I had to go down this route. So she's 40 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: originally from gimj, South Korea, and EJLK started playing basketball 41 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: around the age of ten in the fifth grade, and 42 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: her mother would actually sneak her to practices after realizing 43 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: how good she was, and was telling her father, who 44 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: didn't approve of women in sports, very old school, that 45 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: she was going to piano lessons and she was so good. 46 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: She and her high school team when she was a senior, 47 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 2: was featured on national television, where her father watched her 48 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: for the first time and actually admit it of like, yeah, okay, 49 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 2: you're good. And I could see this like just the 50 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: Korean like mm okay, I get it, like that's that level, 51 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: and knowing that she's actually really good at something like this, 52 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: and again she was so good that she and her 53 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: team were flown to the US to do exhibition games 54 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: in both LA and Jacksonville, Florida. Which why does Jacksonville 55 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: get these random things like this? I'm like, that's such 56 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: an odd place to be. I don't even does Florida 57 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: have a I'm saying this, does Florida have a basketball team? 58 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: Like an actual like a like of course, the colleges 59 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: have different teams, so I'm not like making fun of that, 60 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: but like, you know, Atlanta Hawks, we have that, like 61 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: the national teams they go different places. They don't even 62 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: have so I'm really kind of like, wait, what to 63 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: be fair, she was in high schools, but that level 64 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: of like, huh, that's an interesting place to have that, Okay, 65 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: But she went to Jacksonville, Florida. I wonder what she 66 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: thought of that in the nineteen eighties. Anyway, and because 67 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: of her reputation, she was soon picked up by Northeast 68 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: Louisiana University, where she garnered even more attention for her 69 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: skills and abilities. It was also noted in the next 70 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: Shark video that she had a very specific move which 71 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: was like the shot fake behind the back pass, and 72 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: they even mentioned saying that many other people felt that 73 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan and Larry Bird was influenced by that because 74 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: they used that shot as well. That was part of 75 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: their signature as well. So I'm like, interesting, this little 76 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: Korean lady influenced Michael Jordan and Larry Bird. Who I 77 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 2: knew they were my time timeframe. Of course, everybody knows 78 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: who Michael Jordan is, but you know what I mean, 79 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 2: and Larry Bird. But anyway, but her playing was incredible 80 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: and so well known throughout the States. And here's some 81 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: quotes from a twenty fourteen article from charactermedia dot com. 82 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 2: Ej is the best female point guard i've ever seen, 83 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: said Brown, who coached Sikill O'Neil at LSU in the 84 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: early nineties. I don't mean to embellish this, but she's 85 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: a female Pete Maravich. They had eyes all around their head. 86 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 2: Great players perceive things that aren't there. They diagram plays 87 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: and know it in their heads and make that pass 88 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 2: Tuesday this later. She was a phenom. I tell you 89 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: she had it all and I was kind of one 90 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: of the many players you talked about it, and then 91 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 2: it talks about specific games that she played, it says. 92 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: With Three hours ago before tip off, the line outside 93 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: Ewing Coliseum on the campus of Northeast Louisiana University circles 94 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: around the arena. An anti crowd of seven thousand equally 95 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: waited to enter for the biggest and most anticipated game 96 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: of March Madness basketball in the school's history. The Lady 97 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 2: Indians were about to take on their longtime rivals Louisiana 98 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: Tech in the NCAA Midwest Regional Championship game for a 99 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: berth in the nation's Final four. As the game got underway, 100 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 2: fervent chance of EJ EJ from the crowd reverberated inside 101 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: the arena at ear drum splitting levels as fans showed 102 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: their appreciation for the NLU's star player. EJ short for 103 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: Eun Johani, the junior point guard who only came to 104 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: the US from Gimbee, South Korea, three years later, had 105 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: earned a specials place in the heart of these fans. 106 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 2: Every day on campus. EJ was the talk described Gene point, 107 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: the radio play by play man for NLU's basketball game 108 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: in the nineteen eighties, The fans couldn't get enough of her, 109 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 2: so like the team was loved and apparently before the year, 110 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: her freshman year that came on, they were their game 111 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 2: stats were twelve, twelve and twelve, so not doing well. 112 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: And this is the first time they were so good 113 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: that they could make it to the final four. I 114 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: believe a lot of controversy happened where she wasn't They 115 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: weren't able to make it, something about recruiting, illegal recruiting. 116 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: But she was so good that everyone had like banners 117 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: for her, loved her. There was newspaper articles. They knew 118 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 2: in Louisiana who she was, and she actually talked about it. 119 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 2: In the same interview, she says it was unbelievable says 120 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 2: the star lu point guard now fifty one, So this 121 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: was twenty fourteen and now ej Oak her married name, 122 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: recalling that momentous game twenty nine years ago. Everybody was 123 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: pulling for me. Our fans really loved the way I 124 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: played basketball. I was always ready to play Louisiana Tech 125 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: so that I can make our fans happy when we 126 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 2: beat them. It meant so much for them. And apparently 127 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: after her game, the coach Louisiana Tech coach like was like, 128 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to be so happy when you graduate, Like 129 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: I actually said that to her face, like I'm going 130 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: to be so excited when you graduate, you know, understandably 131 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: so so she was making huge plays, making huge deals. 132 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: You can now watch YouTube clips of her playing, and 133 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: I watched a little bit. I was like, oh my god, 134 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: she was so good. She does so well. Say this 135 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: is the person who can't get off the ground, like 136 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: when I see Korean representation, Okay, good on you. And 137 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: as in fact, there was another article on twenty twenty 138 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: two from Basketballnetwork dot net who says the same thing 139 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: that I did, and like, why didn't we know about 140 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: this person? They said Unjong e k was truly ahead 141 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,119 Speaker 2: of her time, there was still no professional league for women. 142 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: After she graduated from the US, she had to go 143 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 2: to Sweden and Italy to explore opportunities, and she won 144 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: MVPs in her stint there. Just the impact she could 145 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: have had if she had played the era of social media, 146 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: Oak's story was a perfect recipe for a Netflix docuseries, 147 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: And yeah, that was kind of the consensus, like if 148 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: social media was around at that time, she would have 149 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: been on fire and she would have been so well known, 150 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: and she got so many awards even without social media 151 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: or any of that fame. She was the fourth time 152 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: SLC Player of the Year and she was also the 153 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: three time All American, which apparently no other player today 154 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: to this day has ever gotten bad. So even men 155 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: have not gotten that. So her accolades are pretty big. 156 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: Those are just two of them. There's so many more 157 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 2: she'd gotten. She was a coach for thirty years and 158 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: apparently she's currently a head coach in the Solarrall State 159 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: University for the women's basketball team even today, so she's 160 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: still there. She's still doing her thing and apparently using 161 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: her gift and knowledge in this game that I know 162 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: very little, very little about but I know when I'm 163 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: supposed to be impressed. 164 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: Annie, and impressed you are. 165 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: I am so good on you, ej Elk and thank 166 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: you for your contribution. 167 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: Yes, that's such a great story. I hadn't heard of her. 168 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: Very very cool. 169 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 2: Well. 170 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: As always, listeners, If you have any more information any 171 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: other things in this realm that we should talk about 172 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: check out, please let us know. You can email us 173 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: Stuff Media mom Stuff at iHeartMedia dot com. You can 174 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: find us on Twitter at mom Stuff Podcasts, or on 175 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: Instagram and TikTok at stuff I Never Told You. We 176 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: have a tea public store and we have a book 177 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: that you can get wherever you get your books. 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