WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Return Of The Maxx

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<v Speaker 1>Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>and ahead, he got Jack. This is the Big Red

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<v Speaker 1>Rage taking over. Here's Paul Calvci. I'm ready. I'm one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready, and Ron

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<v Speaker 1>will flee. It doesn't get any better than that, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>unleash the far. I mean, who doesn't like going to

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas and catching a show. Well, if you've been known

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<v Speaker 1>to surprise the Warrior Queen with a Vegas trip here

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<v Speaker 1>and there, have you not no doubt about it? Polly Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Little Shania Twain is a matter of fact. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there are people right now on the road listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Red Rage ripping through Wickenberg and route to

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas for the weekend. Are you kidding me? Google it, Pola,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Channaia Twain, google it, my

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<v Speaker 1>young crugs. Here's the thing. Cardinals didn't catch a show.

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<v Speaker 1>They were the show on Sunday. I mean, forget the

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<v Speaker 1>likes of Shania Twain or Penn and Teller or David

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<v Speaker 1>Copperfield or Blue Man Group. It was the Big Red

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<v Speaker 1>Group of fifty three and their lead magician, Kyler Murray

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<v Speaker 1>pulling one out of the hat. I mean that was

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<v Speaker 1>hashtag show stopper, was it not? Cardinals get the win

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<v Speaker 1>despite the fact midway through the fourth quarter of the

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<v Speaker 1>wind probability for the Raiders was ninety eight percent. It

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<v Speaker 1>is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford. Gilbert

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<v Speaker 1>we are santane Ford, big, Max Williams straight ahead, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals tight end, one of the best personalities on the team.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't wait to ask him a whole host of questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Calvc here, Ron Wolflee there you know well, Polly, Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I still can't believe what it is that actually transpired

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<v Speaker 1>in that stadium in the second half, in particular, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when you juxtapose the first half, the first half to

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<v Speaker 1>the second half, and just how desparate the Arizona Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>looked from that first half. They came out in that

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<v Speaker 1>second half and they played in all three phases, offensively, defensively,

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<v Speaker 1>and in transition as well. They played very, very well,

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<v Speaker 1>the best we've seen this year for sure. How bad

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<v Speaker 1>was it? How good was it? Well? Here to bolster

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<v Speaker 1>your case, Wolf. In the first half, the Cardinals ran

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen plays at poultry, nineteen plays for a measly eighty

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<v Speaker 1>six yards. In the second half, they ran fifty nine

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<v Speaker 1>plays between second half and overtime for three hundred twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven yards. In his Kyler said after the game, they

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<v Speaker 1>said what was the difference? And he's just like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, well, actually, let's hear from Kyler Murray. We

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<v Speaker 1>got this queued up and ready to go. Kyler Murray,

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<v Speaker 1>what did change in that second half? And beyond? At

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<v Speaker 1>some point you know enough is enough? It was just again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not about the toughness and how hard we play.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's never in question. It's just about executing, playing faster,

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<v Speaker 1>getting you know, gett our tempo going. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>you could tell the difference first half second half. Those guys,

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<v Speaker 1>those guys definitely got tired. They definitely got tired. They

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<v Speaker 1>were winded. Where you're tired, you're not gett passed rushing,

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<v Speaker 1>you're playing his own it's you know, for for us,

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<v Speaker 1>that's you know, as a recipe for success. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was ended up, you know, working out think

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<v Speaker 1>about it. In addition to all that, on those final

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<v Speaker 1>two touchdown drives, and by the way, they cashed in

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<v Speaker 1>that last touchdown drive was zeros in the clock and

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<v Speaker 1>then that ridiculous laser beam of a throw where Kyler

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<v Speaker 1>threaded it into the back of the end zone to

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<v Speaker 1>aj Green. Between those two final touchdown drives there were

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<v Speaker 1>six do or die plays between fourth down and or

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<v Speaker 1>two point converts. A half dozen do or die plays

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<v Speaker 1>on those last two touchdown drives. Yeah, Polly, it really

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<v Speaker 1>was a situation where they came up big. And it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't just Kyler Murray. It was so many other guys

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Now, Kyler Murray was right in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of that maelstrom of going out and playing perfectly and

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<v Speaker 1>having to be perfect going down the stretch, and the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that they were able to orchestrate it and pull

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<v Speaker 1>that thing off. It truly is Polly. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>told you this after the game. I've never seen anything

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<v Speaker 1>like it. To be around this game for well over

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<v Speaker 1>three decades in a different capacity, of course, but to

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<v Speaker 1>be around this game as long as I have and

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<v Speaker 1>never see anything like that. I after the game, I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking to Dave and I was just holding my

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<v Speaker 1>head ball the whole time that I was talking to

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<v Speaker 1>Pash because I could not believe what it just transpired.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I saw in Kyler Murray? Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>asking Wolf. You know what I saw. I saw a

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable and confident quarterback in his past protection. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>a quick Now did he get harassed and hit at

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<v Speaker 1>times for Max Crosby and Chandler Jones coming, Yes, But

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<v Speaker 1>when he snapped that ball, he wasn't worried about left

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<v Speaker 1>guard being a liability like it was maybe in week one.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't worried about right guard being a liability like

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<v Speaker 1>it was most of the last year and especially against

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<v Speaker 1>the upcoming opponent. The Rams will get into that a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. And to that point, when you hear Cliff

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<v Speaker 1>Kingsbury say that Kyler Murray's decision making was stellar, in

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, he'd hold on, he make his reads

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<v Speaker 1>and whether to throw it or pass it, whether the

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<v Speaker 1>stress of defense with his legs or not. The decision

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<v Speaker 1>making was there, and I think that was there because

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<v Speaker 1>he was comfortable in the pocket. Yeah, no, Paula, You're right,

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<v Speaker 1>this was something that I did not expect. Listen. DJ

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<v Speaker 1>Humphreys did an incredible job on Chandler Jones. As we

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<v Speaker 1>all know right now, we love Chan we all do.

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<v Speaker 1>We are always going to the five years that he

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<v Speaker 1>was wreaking havoc in the NFC. Of course, we respect

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<v Speaker 1>him greatly. DJ Humphries did a great job. When you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about a guy that went out and nullified the

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<v Speaker 1>talent that is Chandler Jones, that's no easy proposition whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>And DJ shut him down the dog that he is.

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<v Speaker 1>That was great. On the other side, Max Crosby, he

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<v Speaker 1>impacted the game, There's no doubt he did, not only

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<v Speaker 1>getting to Kyler Murray of course, but also pressuring him

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<v Speaker 1>from time to time. By the way, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>ask Cliff Kingsbury and his weekly TV show and I

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<v Speaker 1>stinking forgot about it. I wanted to ask him if

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<v Speaker 1>he was sandbagging about what he told the media that

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<v Speaker 1>he had texted Chandler Jones to start the game week.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't hold it against me, but I'm gonna chip you

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<v Speaker 1>every play because that didn't happen. That did not happen.

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<v Speaker 1>DJ Humphreys was solo against Chandler Jones most of that game,

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<v Speaker 1>and most of the chips from my eye were reserved

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<v Speaker 1>for the other side and Max Crosby. Yes, yes, Paulie,

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<v Speaker 1>there was and if you watch it once again, that

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<v Speaker 1>was the key to I think the Cardinals comeback was

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<v Speaker 1>the fact they stayed balance on the offensive side of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball in that second half, Pauli. They stayed balance

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<v Speaker 1>and that gave Kyler Murray a little bit of comfort,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, and especially with the interior pocket when they

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<v Speaker 1>did throw the ball, he was able to actually stop up.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the other guy who really stood up beyond Kyler Murray.

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<v Speaker 1>DJ Humphreys, how about a round of applause for Byron

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<v Speaker 1>Murphy not only the longest fumble return for touchdown in

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<v Speaker 1>overtime in NFL history fifty nine yards, and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>his jersey is on display in the Hall of Fame,

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<v Speaker 1>along with a signed football from Kyler, who also made

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<v Speaker 1>NFL history in that game, but Byron Murphy holding Davante

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<v Speaker 1>Adams to just two grabs for twelve yards. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a touchdown in there, but for the most part, Davante

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<v Speaker 1>Adams was a non factor and Vance Joseph today was

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<v Speaker 1>asked about the big game for Murph, his progress has

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<v Speaker 1>been awesome, you know. I mean even even from last

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<v Speaker 1>year to this year. Last year he had a hell

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<v Speaker 1>of a first half of a season. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>got a little nicked up towards the middle. He came

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<v Speaker 1>back to last I thought a month and a half

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<v Speaker 1>and played good again for us. So I'm not surprised

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<v Speaker 1>that he can, you know, cover a number one receiver

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<v Speaker 1>in this league, you know. I mean, he's a guy

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<v Speaker 1>with talent him. He's been with us for I think

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<v Speaker 1>four years now, and that's why he was rating, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's confident. He wanted that challenge a week and

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<v Speaker 1>he played his butt off. I mean, how big would

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<v Speaker 1>that be Wolf if they actually once again had a

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<v Speaker 1>legit number one corner where Vance Joseph could start every

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<v Speaker 1>game week and say, you know what we're taking Byron Murphy.

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<v Speaker 1>We're matching up against the other team's number one receiver check.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that is a huge luxury if you're a DC, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Poll's absolutely, it's huge, Bud. What's amazing is I went

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<v Speaker 1>back and I looked at the tape and I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to think of a time that Davante Adams beat Byron Murphy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean like beat him where he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was wide open and should have got the ball. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You had to look really close and really hard to

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<v Speaker 1>see that when that was So you watch the film.

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<v Speaker 1>Answer me this, because there's been some discrepancy. Did he

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<v Speaker 1>really travel with him the entire game or he did

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals mixed coverages. Yeah, no, Polly, they mixed up

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<v Speaker 1>coverages right there. But he did travel there. He definitely traveled.

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<v Speaker 1>He went when he was in Man, so much of

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<v Speaker 1>the time he did travel. Every time they lined Davantae

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<v Speaker 1>Adams up for the most part, for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>there were one, maybe two exceptions, but every time they

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<v Speaker 1>lined him up inside in the slot and not on

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<v Speaker 1>the perimeter, that's typically when Byron Murphy would not travel

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<v Speaker 1>with him. So that was and that's where he came from.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, he came from the slot over Davante

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<v Speaker 1>Adams opposite opposite the wide receiver screen to Renfro to

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<v Speaker 1>pick that ball up and he sprinted all the way over.

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<v Speaker 1>You ought to see it. It's very very cool. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this week we'll see. We'll see if he gets the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth player ever to lead the NFL in a single

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<v Speaker 1>season in receptions, receiving yards, and touchdown receptions. Because that

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<v Speaker 1>was Cooper Cup a year ago, the Triple Crown winner.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember when the Cardinals beat him week four he had

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<v Speaker 1>a season low five grabs, but when they lost him

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<v Speaker 1>in week fourteen, he had his season high thirteen grabs.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's a definite difference maker. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get to Max Williams. How about the Cardinals tight end?

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<v Speaker 1>We got tons of questions, what was alike in that

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<v Speaker 1>locker room? And more Max Williams Cardinals tight end going

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<v Speaker 1>to join us when we come back. On the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Red Rage presented by Satan Ford and Gilbert, we are

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<v Speaker 1>Satan four, second and ten for the Raiders of the

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinal thirty nine four receivers, two right, two left car

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for the shotgun snap. He's got the ball, quick throw,

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<v Speaker 1>left side, brand and brow of the catch and he

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<v Speaker 1>breaks one tackle and put the ball comes out, it's

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<v Speaker 1>close and it picked him by the Cardinals him at film,

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<v Speaker 1>it's picked up by Byron bird by pen the forty

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<v Speaker 1>pen to thirty pen to twenty pen to ten of

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<v Speaker 1>ball game. Byron bird Beet pick up the ball and

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<v Speaker 1>midfield returned to duckdown and the Cardinals with the the flax.

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<v Speaker 1>What an unbelievable Finnish Harry Vegas crazy Carl is here

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<v Speaker 1>for the Arizona Cardinals. Isaiah Simmons forced to fumble and

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<v Speaker 1>Byron Murphy picked it up and took it to the

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<v Speaker 1>house to win the game in overtime twenty nine, twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>What a great finish, What a great call. It went viral.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you talk about leaving Las Vegas. How about

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<v Speaker 1>Bird City beats Sin City. How about the longest overtime

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<v Speaker 1>fumble returned for touchdown in NFL history. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Byron Murphy's jersey goes to the Hall of Fame, and

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<v Speaker 1>a Kyler signed football has gone to the Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Fame as well as the first quarterback as I read

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<v Speaker 1>this year with a passing and rushing touchdown and a

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<v Speaker 1>passing and rushing two point conversion. How about that? And

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<v Speaker 1>also Ron Wolfley. I haven't totally verified this yet, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe it's the first NFL game ever pitting

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<v Speaker 1>two Maxes against each other who both spell their first

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<v Speaker 1>name with double X, and the original Max joins us

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<v Speaker 1>now Max Williams here on the Big Red Rage presented

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<v Speaker 1>by santan Ford and Gilbert We are santan Ford. That

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<v Speaker 1>is accurate, right? You do claim being the original Max

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<v Speaker 1>double X in the NFL? Do you not? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't think of anyone else who was performing with

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<v Speaker 1>just two Xes and Max. But Max Crosby coming in

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<v Speaker 1>made all that noise being a superstar, so more powered

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<v Speaker 1>to him. He's got the two xes. I'm gonna claim it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all about the name, right, So Max, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>jump in here, man right away, Crazy Carl. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>know who crazy Carl is? Do you have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>heard the terminology crazy Carl? I don't think I had. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what they used to say Max. Back when

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<v Speaker 1>I was playing me. My old coach used to say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what we need, man, We need Crazy Carl

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<v Speaker 1>to show up for us, like something crazy to happen

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<v Speaker 1>on the field, like the ball goes off, some guy's

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<v Speaker 1>helmet into the year fifteen yards and your guy runs

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<v Speaker 1>underneath it, grabs it and takes it back for a

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown seventy five yards. Something crazy to happen out on

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<v Speaker 1>the field right there, and crazy Carl obviously showed up

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<v Speaker 1>for you guys. What were you thinking when you saw

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<v Speaker 1>Byron Murphy running down that sideline. I think it starts

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<v Speaker 1>with that whole series all went JT almost had the pick,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah fumble to play right after that that we almost recovered,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm thinking in my head, I was disappoint I dang,

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<v Speaker 1>we had our chance. How we needed as a field

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<v Speaker 1>go then and I was right on the sidelines at

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<v Speaker 1>a front row seat. Boom ball is out and all

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<v Speaker 1>sudden everything kind of just froze, and all a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>Murf came out of nowhere. I was like, someone jump

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<v Speaker 1>on it. Murf also picks it up and is going

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<v Speaker 1>down the sidelines. Crazy moment. I mean, I still get

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<v Speaker 1>I still get goosebumps thinking about it watching it. It

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<v Speaker 1>was such a fun moment. And then that carried into

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<v Speaker 1>the locker room. That's gonna be one. I mean, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're done playing this game, that's gonna be one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most memorable things about the end, right, those locker

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<v Speaker 1>rooms celebrations after like that, I think, I think, especially

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<v Speaker 1>what I'll take from that looking back, reflecting obviously the

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<v Speaker 1>only week three, but I mean that two point conversion.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, Kyler running around for twenty seconds. I'm never

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<v Speaker 1>saying anything like that in my eight years so far.

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<v Speaker 1>Then how the overtime ended. I mean, those are the

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<v Speaker 1>things you get in the locker room. You look at

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<v Speaker 1>each other and you just you just have to be

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<v Speaker 1>happy and have fun and celebrate because those things don't

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<v Speaker 1>happen every day. I mean, we'll remember what Max told

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<v Speaker 1>us a couple of years ago in the Big Red Rache,

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<v Speaker 1>how he was a former running quarterback in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, I mean from one running quarterback to another,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead. Put that in perspective, the twenty one seconds

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<v Speaker 1>and eighty five yards cover, I'd be two winded. Perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>to Kyler, I would have been running around back. There's quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have been so gassed. I would have never

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<v Speaker 1>got in like him. He's specially when you watch that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's what shows I mean, it is wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Just sometimes you just gotta say wow watching Kyler play,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a big guy. We're obviously you're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>into the details here. We're gonna talk about the Raiders

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<v Speaker 1>an awful out. But before we really dive into this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to ask you, how are you feeling? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>How's the body? I feel good? Obviously after last year

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<v Speaker 1>with my knee injury and everything went with that, I

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<v Speaker 1>never knew I was gonna play football again. So it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of started with one of those working back in

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<v Speaker 1>now playing Week three, and I feel great. My knee

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<v Speaker 1>feels awesome, loving being back out there. I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>would I would have been lost without football right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I love it. Still. Still only twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>so feeling great, feeling young, just getting excited to go

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<v Speaker 1>play the Rams this week. Where are you in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of being one hundred percent back from that knee? What

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<v Speaker 1>percentage would you give? I mean personally, I would say

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<v Speaker 1>my knee is gonna be what it is for everything

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<v Speaker 1>I did to my right knee and that injury and

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<v Speaker 1>everything that went wrong with it. I think where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>at now for how great I feel, where I can

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<v Speaker 1>go play football, my knee's not hurting, I would say

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<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling great. Yeah, I mean it was a serious

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<v Speaker 1>significant knee injury, right, Yeah, I mean it wasn't good. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>tired a little bit more than just an ACF. Okay. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>all I know is I'm not sure what was shocking

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<v Speaker 1>more shocking in camp the fact that Wolf actually lost

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<v Speaker 1>significant can wait? Okay, or that you were out there

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<v Speaker 1>full go, full contact week two. Did you exceed your

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<v Speaker 1>own expectations? You know, I don't think I ever put

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<v Speaker 1>a time limit out there when I wanted to be back,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think in my own mind, I always said,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm gonna do this, I want to play week one,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was on the pup list and it was

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<v Speaker 1>one of those where I've done so much rehab with

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<v Speaker 1>the trainers and everything else at that point in camp

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, look like I can't make the next

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<v Speaker 1>step to see if I can even play football until

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<v Speaker 1>I come off the pup list and try to play.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's one of those Coach was comfortable with it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was working out great, was feeling good on the field,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said, hey, let's take a try into it

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<v Speaker 1>and worked our way up to do more and more. Yeah. Max,

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, the Raiders game. Of course, you played the

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs game. You played the Raiders game. How did you

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<v Speaker 1>play personally against the Raiders in your opinion, personally, I

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<v Speaker 1>probably wanted all my players back two of them for

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<v Speaker 1>two of them, which too with all getting too much.

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<v Speaker 1>I first played the game that I was in. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was like the fourth or fifth actual game.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I had that playback just based off of

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<v Speaker 1>my job. And then the one pass pro I have

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<v Speaker 1>where me and Beach got our feet tangled up and

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<v Speaker 1>I ended up going backwards like a great pancake. It

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<v Speaker 1>was awesome. Hey, Max on Max Crime, he won that

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<v Speaker 1>That man is a freak, I mean more powered to him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he's a special player, and it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>fun to play against him. I talked to Steven Anderson

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit because he went against him a lot

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<v Speaker 1>within Chargers said there is nobody in the NFL with

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<v Speaker 1>a motor that eclipses Max Crosby. I think wasn't that

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<v Speaker 1>first week of the season he played like ninety one

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<v Speaker 1>snaps or something, and you watch the film, he never

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<v Speaker 1>slowed down once, and then we play him. That man's

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<v Speaker 1>all over the field, jumping over piles, making plays, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I mean that's what you look forward to in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, those special type talents that come out of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, what is he in his fourth year?

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<v Speaker 1>I think fourth and so yeah, and he was already

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<v Speaker 1>making It just gets you excited where the league's going

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<v Speaker 1>and the talent that's in this league. And it's fun

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<v Speaker 1>to play against those type of guys because we're competitive

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. We wouldn't be here if we weren't,

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<v Speaker 1>and you want to play against the best guys. He

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<v Speaker 1>looks like he's strong. Max was he was. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's that whole package right now. I mean he's in

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<v Speaker 1>the prime of his career. He's a young guy, and

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<v Speaker 1>it just gets you excited, especially if I played for

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<v Speaker 1>the Raiders, of where his future could go and where

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<v Speaker 1>the ceiling off. Hey, Max Williams is our guest. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all about you, presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. So

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<v Speaker 1>you guys were down twenty to nothing at the half,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'm doing the halftime show and the coaches

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<v Speaker 1>come out, one coach after another and there's no players.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even sighted on the air. That's a little unusual.

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<v Speaker 1>And and Cliffs said today, actually he was yesterday. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what he felt a lot better based on

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<v Speaker 1>what the leaders had to say in that locker room,

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<v Speaker 1>and it seemed to be a turning point. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>sort of quantify what happened at half and do you

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<v Speaker 1>agree was that sort of a threshold moment? Yeah? I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think earlier this week I said that the leaders

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<v Speaker 1>on this team this year and this is my what

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<v Speaker 1>fourth year on the team, it just it just feels

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<v Speaker 1>different with the leaders stepping up. I mean I can

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<v Speaker 1>sing all guys like hump Buddha k one this year,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone just kind of speaking their mind of being that

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<v Speaker 1>leader that we need guys to be to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>come together a team. So at halftime, it was like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we got together. This is this is six cores of

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<v Speaker 1>football that this is not us, This is not how

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<v Speaker 1>we practice this. Now we play it. We got to

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<v Speaker 1>just do our job. And it was one of those moments.

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<v Speaker 1>And when your leaders are stepping up and calling guys

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<v Speaker 1>out and not really calling guys out more of what's

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<v Speaker 1>the good way I could put it, challenging the team. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>one play at a time, that's all it is. We're

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<v Speaker 1>down twenty points at half. Look, they just scored twenty

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<v Speaker 1>in the first half. Why can't we I can't. I

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<v Speaker 1>just worry about my job, you know, right right? Was

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<v Speaker 1>anybody yelling at halftime? No, I don't. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>yelling would be the right word, because because I think

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<v Speaker 1>coach I think Coach Cliff says it the best is

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<v Speaker 1>we weren't playing well because we weren't playing our hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's the way it say it. It was

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<v Speaker 1>more we just weren't executing, and it was looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the guy to your left and right, trusting them that

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna do your job, and they're gonna trust you

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<v Speaker 1>that do yours individually and takes eleven guys out there,

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<v Speaker 1>eleven guys doing their job and trusting everyone around him.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what the message was is we gotta trust

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<v Speaker 1>each other and we gotta go out there and execute.

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<v Speaker 1>And lucky for us, we were fortunate if that things

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<v Speaker 1>went our way and we won the game. And now

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<v Speaker 1>he's got to take that momentum in this week and

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<v Speaker 1>get better each and every day for this game. Was

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<v Speaker 1>there anything that you did Max in the second half

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<v Speaker 1>that you were not doing in the first half. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about you personally, I'm talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>entire team down twenty to nothing at half. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>was there any anything done schematically that was different in

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<v Speaker 1>the second half than what you were doing in the first.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. Obviously, I'm not the one calling

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<v Speaker 1>the plays, and I can't speak on defense, but for

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<v Speaker 1>us on offense, it was we just executed better. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>did their job, and I think the word execute is

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<v Speaker 1>just I think the best way we can say it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anything really changes. You always make a

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<v Speaker 1>little adjustments here and there at half time because you

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<v Speaker 1>have to, because you never really know what the defense

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<v Speaker 1>is going to do till you play him, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you make adjustments. But scheme wise, play call wise, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think anything came different than what we practice all week.

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<v Speaker 1>Is just we executed. Everyone did their individual job, and

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler did his magic well. It is notable after the

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<v Speaker 1>game they release that NFL Films clip from the locker

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<v Speaker 1>room and DJ Humphreys was shouting at everyone amid the celebration, saying,

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<v Speaker 1>this is our identity that you know, and we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about that in the broadcast. You know, after you

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<v Speaker 1>guys came back in that second half. Okay, this feels

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<v Speaker 1>like the team and that started seven, and oh started

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<v Speaker 1>ten and two, and then other guys and that Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>Vannibosh told a story this week on The Red Sea

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<v Speaker 1>Report about how you know coaches tell when you have

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<v Speaker 1>a really special quarterback, it's a defense, just keep playing

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<v Speaker 1>because that special quarterback can bring you back. And Kyler

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<v Speaker 1>is becoming that guy, is he not? I agree? I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think you look at Kyler from his rookie

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<v Speaker 1>year to this year. I think it's for everyone that's young.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look how specially is right now and where

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<v Speaker 1>can you go from here? And I think when DJ's

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<v Speaker 1>talking about like this is our identity, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>we want to be. We want to be out there.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to execute at a high level. We want

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<v Speaker 1>to be on our terms, and we want to get

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<v Speaker 1>in a rhythm. And I think that's what we showed

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<v Speaker 1>in that second half is when we can get rolling,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's doing their job, who knows what we can do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's what's exciting about our team and

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<v Speaker 1>especially the guys we have, is we don't know where

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<v Speaker 1>we can go and we can't wait to find out

0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:05.200
<v Speaker 1>where it is. And Wolf. Everyone's still talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>two point conversion run by Kyler Murray, including the great

0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Frank Caliendo right with the impersonation. So here he is

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<v Speaker 1>as John Madden and Pat Summer. All looks like they're

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<v Speaker 1>going for two, Pat juror does Kyler Murray back to pass?

0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I think this place falling apart? Pat, I don't think

0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:25.040
<v Speaker 1>you can see anything. How tall is Kyler Murray? Pat

0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:28.359
<v Speaker 1>five ten? I believe not true? But how tall is

0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Hart maybe six foot Murray directing traffic? Actually he

0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:35.480
<v Speaker 1>was creating a diversion. Pat maybe pointed in a couple

0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:38.720
<v Speaker 1>of places and boom he ran circles round These guys touchdown.

0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Kyr knows. Those were some amazing tactics. I don't understand

0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:45.440
<v Speaker 1>how we did it. I guess it's just modern warfare.

0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:51.280
<v Speaker 1>You ever quay call of duty? Pat? So good? So

0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:53.960
<v Speaker 1>a year ago, after your knee injury, you used to

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<v Speaker 1>give out the two the Max award from your living room,

0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:59.280
<v Speaker 1>right yep? With Kyler been the automatic? Or is there

0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:01.600
<v Speaker 1>someone else there that would have warranted consideration that to

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<v Speaker 1>the Max award? If I'm giving the award, I'm week two.

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<v Speaker 1>When we win, it's got to go to Kylier, just

0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:11.359
<v Speaker 1>though I mean murf Murf a runner up, but K

0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:13.720
<v Speaker 1>one we're not in that situation where Murph is getting

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to do that. If K one's not doing

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<v Speaker 1>his magic. Well he did in the fourth quarter especially,

0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:21.760
<v Speaker 1>so I think you'll go to K one in that situation. Yeah,

0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:24.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, especially Max two. When I think of that

0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:28.320
<v Speaker 1>second two point conversion, the throw to AJ Cream, if

0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:30.440
<v Speaker 1>you really watched that, that was such a beautiful throw.

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<v Speaker 1>Your thoughts on that, Max, seriously, I mean, I mean

0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:37.560
<v Speaker 1>that's every day. I think today at practice he made

0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:40.840
<v Speaker 1>a throw to AJ Green on our sidelines that we

0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:43.600
<v Speaker 1>literally stopped meetings. We're like, Wow, what a throw it.

0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's almost like you're not surprised, kind of

0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:47.320
<v Speaker 1>like when d Hop makes one of those plays. Now

0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:49.280
<v Speaker 1>I might play with them long enough, it's like it happens.

0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:51.199
<v Speaker 1>Now K one makes some of these throws. It's like, oh,

0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:54.760
<v Speaker 1>that's normal. Yeah, yeah, you know, I see that every day.

0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:56.879
<v Speaker 1>You're right, some of the catches de Hot made in

0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:59.560
<v Speaker 1>the receiver line in camp, you're like, what what do

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<v Speaker 1>the same sort of thing Larry used to do, Fits

0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:04.040
<v Speaker 1>used to do in practice all the time. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest stuff that never saw the light of day.

0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:09.879
<v Speaker 1>And that's every day at practice. Fortunate enough playing with

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<v Speaker 1>Larry now de hopping all these guys, the things you

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:14.880
<v Speaker 1>can see at practice, it just makes this game fun.

0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:18.119
<v Speaker 1>You've gone from the mustache to the beard. Do explain

0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:20.480
<v Speaker 1>what was wrong with just the mustache. I'm a mustache guy.

0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:23.280
<v Speaker 1>Come on, it's every year for camp. The mustache. That's work.

0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:25.879
<v Speaker 1>And I had a twirled I had that thing. It

0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:27.560
<v Speaker 1>was nice. It just takes too much to take care of.

0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:29.520
<v Speaker 1>It's camp and you gett get it with the guys.

0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:31.120
<v Speaker 1>We're all living in a hotel. It's one of those.

0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:32.719
<v Speaker 1>It's a good time with the friends. But as soon

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 1>as as soon as camp's over, can get rid of

0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:37.080
<v Speaker 1>the mustache again. There we go. All right, he's letting

0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:38.879
<v Speaker 1>the hair grow out to COVID style. You know what

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:42.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean. It's sands the haircut. So we'll continue. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>there might be another Frank Caliendo calling your touchdown last

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<v Speaker 1>year against the Rams in Week four Cardinals season tickets

0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:51.760
<v Speaker 1>at Acy Cardinals dot com slash season. The big red

0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:57.880
<v Speaker 1>rain fact. Right after this step to Kyle, the Murray

0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:00.400
<v Speaker 1>three step drop blops at deep middle of the Zoe

0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Max Williams hangs on as he's head tucked down. Williams

0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:06.720
<v Speaker 1>off in the middle, got pop and Tyler Murray with

0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:10.440
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful touch grow and the Cardinals are back in front.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you gonna do when Max Williams runs the

0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 1>seam on you? What a great read by Kyler Murray

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:23.919
<v Speaker 1>about it? That was last year? Week four, Cardinals went

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:27.960
<v Speaker 1>to La jack Stump the Rams thirty seven towny ran

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:31.159
<v Speaker 1>for more than two hundred yards. Kyler was outstanding and

0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 1>big Max Williams on the business end of that touchdown

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:36.399
<v Speaker 1>catch right there. He is our special guest in the

0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert. We

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<v Speaker 1>are santan Ford. Are we in the midst of the

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<v Speaker 1>age of the tight end? Think about it? I mean,

0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:46.960
<v Speaker 1>you have Max Williams and Zach Ertz the Cardinals leading

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<v Speaker 1>receiver in the win over the Raiders. Week one it

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 1>was Dravis Kelsey, Week two was Darren Waller. You get

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Higbee this week on the opponent. George Kittle is

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<v Speaker 1>coming up in the division twice a year. I mean,

0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Max Williams will in educate Ron Wolfley then not Everything

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<v Speaker 1>that was best about the NFL was during his era,

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<v Speaker 1>his decade in the NFL. It's all us about just

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<v Speaker 1>the state of the tight end position these days. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's exciting. I mean you can even see

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<v Speaker 1>our young guy with Trey even watching him I would practice,

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<v Speaker 1>and the way tight ends played now, it's so it's

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<v Speaker 1>so exciting to watch. You got guys like kid who

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<v Speaker 1>who are gonna be blocking and still making crazy plays,

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:25.439
<v Speaker 1>Guys like Waller, Mark Andrews, Shoot, Kelsey, Yea, everyone out

0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:28.560
<v Speaker 1>there making plays like their star receivers. It's it's such

0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:31.200
<v Speaker 1>a versatile position and it's fun to watch all the

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 1>younger guys coming in because everyone does something so different.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think when I think of blocking tight ends,

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<v Speaker 1>I always think Nick Boyle. I thought he was the

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<v Speaker 1>best in the league at the time when I got

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<v Speaker 1>drafted with him. And that's what's fun to watch as

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<v Speaker 1>you see that you can have guys like Nick Boyle,

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Travis Kelsey, Darren Waller, Mark Andrews Shoot. You can even

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:51.399
<v Speaker 1>throw like pat riccard On there came in as a

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<v Speaker 1>d line in fullback tight end. So much different now

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL and game, and I love it. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what's amazing Max In terms of first and ten

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:04.440
<v Speaker 1>and average yards gained. Twelve personnel is our best grouping.

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:05.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you knew that or not, but

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:09.080
<v Speaker 1>twelve personnel is actually our best grouping in terms of

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 1>average yards gained on first and ten. Oh, that's number

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:15.680
<v Speaker 1>ten is a matter of fact, in the National Football League,

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:19.159
<v Speaker 1>the Arizona Cardinals and yards per gained out of that

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 1>personnel group. Why do you think that? Is not a

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:26.920
<v Speaker 1>stats guy, but I would you know, I love twelve personnel.

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:29.399
<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna hear me complain about being what is now?

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I know you're out there, of course in twelve personnel,

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:34.399
<v Speaker 1>but why do you think it's so effective? You know,

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:37.120
<v Speaker 1>if I would say, well, what my opinion? I guess

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a coach or anything else, but I would

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 1>say we're harder to play then because you got a

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:44.400
<v Speaker 1>guy like zach Ertz when we're in twelve personnel, Well,

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:46.400
<v Speaker 1>you can't treat him like a normal tight end, right.

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>But if I'm in the game where they think and

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:52.119
<v Speaker 1>probably run, so Nowson, we're both on the field, what

0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 1>is it? That's the way I look at it, and

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:56.880
<v Speaker 1>that's why I love about Like I said earlier, personal

0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 1>tight ends I mean, you can do so much with

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:00.719
<v Speaker 1>the tight ends in your offense, and I think Cliff's

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>been great about that since I got here in twenty nineteen,

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 1>being created with it. Well, guys, what did Cliffs say

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>in the off season? We want to try and disguise

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 1>the offense a little bit more. Hence maybe the emphasis

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:14.160
<v Speaker 1>on tight ends this year. Hence the second round draft

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:16.119
<v Speaker 1>pick of a Trey McBride. By the way, we have

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 1>not seen Trey McBride. Obviously you have and you see

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 1>him every day. What can you tell us about the rookie?

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think he's gonna be special young guy

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:28.359
<v Speaker 1>coming in. He's athletic, he can block. It's crazy people

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:30.199
<v Speaker 1>see him, they saying, Oh, he's gonna be this receiving

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 1>tight end. He's gonna get down and dirty in those strenches.

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Wolf would love it. He's gonna be excited too. So

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:37.680
<v Speaker 1>for me, every one of the fans, I wondering about Trey,

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 1>you ain't gotta worry about Trey. Trey's gonna be special

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 1>here in my opinion, and I can't wait to see it.

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm here for it. I'm all in his corner. I'm

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:45.959
<v Speaker 1>trying to do the best they can to help him.

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Me and Zach and I love the kid man. He's awesome.

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 1>That's sad, so so much love you, Max, it really does.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyways, does any of what you did in the

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 1>second half against the Raiders carry over to the Rams game?

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I would say more just the energy of it. We

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 1>gotta come out and we got we gotta feel like

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>we can win the game every time. We gotta be

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 1>going out there on the offense saying we're gonna score

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:09.760
<v Speaker 1>every time we get the ball. And I think that

0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 1>second half against the Raiders, getting their momentum, getting that energy,

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 1>getting a rhythm of it. Take that to practice this week,

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 1>applied to the game plan for the Rams, and go

0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 1>out there and do the best we can execute it

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 1>on Sunday. Before we get to the Rams on Sunday,

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 1>let's go back to last year almost at this time,

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Week four, because we heard the call from Dave Passion

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Ron Wolfley right in the Arizona Cardinals radio network. But

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 1>how about when Frank Caliendo, master of voices on the

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 1>passpod last year, he took a stab at your touchdown

0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:43.959
<v Speaker 1>against the Rams in twenty twenty one. Max Williams fourteen

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 1>yard touchdown catch. Let's start doing that as mel Kiper

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 1>talk about tremendous snap snapped, Kyler Murray kind of little

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>athletic ability. Free step drop them adding things because I

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 1>get back to the copyright here. Free step drop the

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 1>tiny little step. That's tiny, little Kyler Murray taking a

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 1>little steps to the place over hold on, we're doing

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 1>this a slow motion. Actually this what's going on inside

0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 1>my head? Three step drop, lobs it deep through the

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:14.479
<v Speaker 1>middle of the end his own Max Williams double accident

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:18.320
<v Speaker 1>on the EXCX single ass on the Williams hangs it.

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 1>He's a hit touchdown Williams over the middle, got pop.

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:24.960
<v Speaker 1>But Kyler Murray with a beautiful touchdown throwing at the

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, the Cardinals are back in front. Okay,

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 1>let's do John Madden, I mean, I mean, what are

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 1>you gonna do when when Max Williams runs the seam

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>on you want a great read by Kyler Murray. I mean,

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:43.400
<v Speaker 1>that's Kyler Murray just being Kyler Murray right there. He

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 1>saw what do you need to do and boom, he

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 1>just made it happen about bella check. What are you

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna do when Max Williams runs the seam on you.

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 1>I want a great read by Kyler Murray. I'm ecstatic

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 1>right now. Is I'm just blowing my toms. Can we

0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 1>do Nance and Roma on one of these? Jim's gonna coach? Jim?

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>What's going on here? It's incredible? What are you gonna

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 1>do it? Max Williams runs a seam on you? What

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 1>a great read? But Kyler Parich coming in here's gonna

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 1>be te Here we go jump Tony, but a great

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Frank Alliano, do you have a favorite in their Max?

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Which one'd you like the most? John Madden? John John Man,

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>the old school? That's good. That's good, Oh my goodness,

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 1>as good as that is, as much as we dislike

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 1>the Rams. Okay, Sean McVay is ten and one against

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 1>the Arizona Cardinals. That's against three different head coaches. So

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 1>what has to happen on Sunday to beat LA? I mean,

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 1>first off ninety nine on their defense and game change.

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 1>I think everyone got to see that for the last

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 1>one nine years. But for us, it's we got to

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 1>execute and we have to play like we know we can,

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 1>like the second half against the Raiders, and we can't

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 1>go out there and be flat I can only speak

0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 1>for offense and obviously in my room and myself, but

0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 1>if we go out there and we're confident and we're

0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 1>getting in rhythm, knows what can happen on Sunday? So Max,

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 1>can I can I ask you a couple of down

0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 1>in distance questions right now based on your tape study

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 1>of the Rams? Can I is that? Okay? If I

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 1>do that, I mean, yeah, don't be afraid to tell me.

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 1>All right, I'll give you what I can. It's not

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 1>right exactly. It's not like you're going to reveal our

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 1>game plan. I want to know what they're gonna do.

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 1>If it's first intend what coverage do you think they're

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 1>going to be in? Again, I'm gonna say in general,

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 1>have you watched tape on the Rams? They're not a

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 1>big man team. Okay, that's no secret to anyone else. Okay, Okay,

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>So you don't you don't want to go into first

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 1>in ten? You don't want to do that? Well, I

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 1>told you the coverage again, it's gonna be zoned three

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 1>or four. You never know, it depends. They had some

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 1>injuries last week, so you got to figure out who's

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 1>playing nickel form. They are really banged up that corner.

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 1>You're just gonna say corners. So yeah, it's one of

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 1>those I think that's what you say. You go in

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 1>first and ten, you're expecting this, But that's what the

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>halftime are justin's for. You gotta go out there and

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 1>see because they're game planning us, just like we're game

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:57.920
<v Speaker 1>planning them. They're gonna have something for us that we're

0:32:57.960 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 1>not expecting. And that's how it is each and every week.

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 1>You got to apply your rules and go for it. Yeah.

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 1>The only other thing I'm going to ask you is

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>third and obvious? What third and obvious after you? Obvious

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:16.959
<v Speaker 1>meaning third and eight? Pay Um. They're not a big

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 1>blitz team, I'll put it that way. I mean they

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 1>got a great front seven, and when you have that

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>and you got guys in the back end playing zone,

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 1>this is not one of those teams that's gonna light

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 1>you up with ninety percent pressures. Now everyone's got the

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 1>special dialed up pressures and blitzes for third and must

0:33:32.360 --> 0:33:35.720
<v Speaker 1>have situations, but Rams are one of those teams. They've

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 1>had the confidence in their D line with nine nine

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:40.200
<v Speaker 1>leading it, you got fifty four on the edge that

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 1>von Miller last year. So they're a team that's going

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 1>to come after you, try to cover it and make

0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 1>you make the mistakes. They're definitely a team that want

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>you to make the mistake and they capitalize on it.

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 1>DJ Humphreys and we're with Max Williams here on the

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Big Red Rage. DJ used to be the host of

0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 1>this show is as you know, and he was very

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 1>honest about the first time he played against Aaron Donald

0:33:58.240 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 1>and he said he walked out on the field, looked

0:33:59.880 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 1>across the line of scrimmers, said this dude's tiny. I'm

0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:05.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna smash ninety nine. Right. That was DJ talking. Of

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:08.719
<v Speaker 1>course he's six five six six, and then not so much.

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 1>The game started one enables him to be maybe the

0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:14.719
<v Speaker 1>best defensive player ever in the history of the game.

0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I think he's got everything. I mean he's fast, he's quick,

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:21.279
<v Speaker 1>he's mean, he's strong, and he's a special player. You

0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:22.920
<v Speaker 1>gotta give the guy credit. I mean, he's a once

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 1>in a lifetime talent and you can put him with

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 1>the names as the best defense player of all time.

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:28.759
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think there's too many people that know

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 1>football they are gonna argue on that. I mean, he's

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:32.839
<v Speaker 1>been special since the day he's gotten there, and he's

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:34.839
<v Speaker 1>still gonna be special, and he showed it. I mean,

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 1>look at the Super Bowl. He last played the Super Bowl.

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 1>The dude makes the play out of nowhere, and I

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:41.439
<v Speaker 1>don't think anyone was shocked that. It was like, Okay,

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:43.239
<v Speaker 1>if something was gonna happen, they're gonna win the game.

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:44.719
<v Speaker 1>Who was gonna make the play on defense? Well, it's

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 1>probably gonna be Aaron Donald. And you gotta give him

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>that respect. He's earned it. I mean, when you're that

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:52.359
<v Speaker 1>kind of talent, you deserve your respect. And I think

0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 1>that's what everyone does now is you have to know

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:56.400
<v Speaker 1>where ninety nine is on the field at all times.

0:34:56.800 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 1>You know what's amazing about that too, Max, is Aaron

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Donald was having a quiet game and then suddenly the

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Bengals kind of poked him in the eye. The offensive

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 1>lineman got after him a little bit on one player.

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you remember that, but man, some

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:17.239
<v Speaker 1>players you gotta you gotta leave them alone at some

0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:19.360
<v Speaker 1>point at time. Aaron Down's one of those guys that

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>any moment, just like Kyler and those guys, they just

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 1>have something special. Well it happens. Lookie last year right

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Cardinals ran for two sixteen in the first matchup, and

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:30.759
<v Speaker 1>he was pretty quiet, and I think he heard about it.

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 1>And then what happened in the Week fourteen rematch. He

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 1>had fourteen quarterback pressures in a single game. I mean

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:39.799
<v Speaker 1>it was astounding. So what else have you learned though?

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:42.400
<v Speaker 1>About the Rams? It's not just Daron Donald. Now they

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 1>have two other Hall of famers at each level of

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:46.279
<v Speaker 1>the defense. Bobby Wagner Jalen Ramsey. What do you think

0:35:46.280 --> 0:35:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Bobby Wagner does for that, d Well? I mean, Bobby

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Wagner is one of those linebackers that he's gonna go

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 1>down as one of the best linebackers in the game too.

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 1>He's so smart, he's physical, he's quick, and I mean

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 1>he's getting older and he still hasn't slowed down. And

0:35:57.520 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I think losing Von Miller els when you're bringing Bobby Wagner,

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what do they lose? They went from one

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Famer to another. Jannon Ramsey on the back end,

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:06.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean almost all of last year he was playing

0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:08.359
<v Speaker 1>in the box almost as a nickel, playing the run game.

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the guy can do it all. Yeah, So

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 1>it's one of those I mean, the Rams are a

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:14.640
<v Speaker 1>great team, and why you beat a great team is

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 1>you got to be a fundamentally sound Everyone's got to

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:18.400
<v Speaker 1>do their job and you gotta be playing as eleven

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 1>because if you're not doing your job, they're talented enough

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:24.440
<v Speaker 1>where it's gonna be exposed and stuff's not gonna be good.

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:27.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, so much of the time, you have to

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 1>believe you can actually go out and do your job

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:33.439
<v Speaker 1>and be successful. Of course, and the Rams have done

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 1>a great job in terms of every time they've played us,

0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:39.720
<v Speaker 1>They've really done a good job of winning those games.

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Right there. Do you guys believe Max? Do you believe

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 1>that you can take down the Rams? I think we

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 1>believe we can beat everyone each and every week. I

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:51.439
<v Speaker 1>don't think we'd be here in this situation or still

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:53.320
<v Speaker 1>on this team if we didn't think we had a

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 1>chance to be special. And this week, Week three, it's

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 1>the Rams. We're gonna put everything we have into the

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Rams to go out there and play our best game,

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 1>and whatever happens on Sundays happens. I mean, we're not

0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:06.960
<v Speaker 1>out there trying to lose, and we're out there trying

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:09.840
<v Speaker 1>to win. Everyone is and they're just as competitive as us.

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 1>So that's what makes this game fun is we're a

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 1>bunch of grown men, got wives, got kids. We have

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:17.719
<v Speaker 1>families out there playing a kids game on Sundays for

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.080
<v Speaker 1>the world to watch, and we're just having fun. And

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:22.440
<v Speaker 1>that's what I love about is each and every week,

0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 1>anything can happen. I'm guessing as we wrap this up,

0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 1>you're sick of hearing about the Rams. You probably sick

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 1>it from guys like me, hearing about the whole home

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:32.319
<v Speaker 1>losing skid two right, six in a row. You probably

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 1>sing what else to change there? That is confounded? Got

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 1>to win, We gotta win. There's no we have to

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 1>win at home. You have to be winning at home

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 1>if you want to be a great team. And that's

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:45.080
<v Speaker 1>the message this week again is hey, spend six in

0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:47.879
<v Speaker 1>a row. This is our home field. We gotta win.

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 1>Bringing that Heckler from Vegas who was behind the bench,

0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:52.920
<v Speaker 1>that guy you just never shut up. And then Justin

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Pugh gave him a what four at the after the win.

0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:56.800
<v Speaker 1>He went over there a game and what everyone was

0:37:56.840 --> 0:38:01.239
<v Speaker 1>running right to celebrate, Q was going left right? Oh man, Max,

0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>thank you thanks for having me. Guys. You know I

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 1>love coming on there you go. Max Williams, Cardinals tight

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 1>end and always a great guest here on the Big

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Red Rage. We continue more about the Rams. Maybe if

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Wolf's nice to me, I'll tell them the story that

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 1>James Connor told me earlier about Aaron Donald from their

0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:18.399
<v Speaker 1>pit days. When we come back. In the Big Red

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert thirty one, twenty

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 1>five Rams with the lead trying to protect it on defense,

0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:33.359
<v Speaker 1>third down thirteen from the twenty four of the Rams

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:36.799
<v Speaker 1>with Palkils, Mariota has a knee high snaps Ram sent five.

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:40.360
<v Speaker 1>They hit Mariota pro goes up. They didn't intercepted, have

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:44.320
<v Speaker 1>to go on. Jalen Ramsey out to the twenty and

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:49.360
<v Speaker 1>out of bound to the Ram defence. Jalen Paul's game

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:53.360
<v Speaker 1>in Week two to the Rams jab Long on the

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Rams Radio network. They were up three scores against the

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Lanta at home and needed that pick by Jalen Ramsey.

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:02.239
<v Speaker 1>They all produce seal a win against the Falcons. So

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:05.160
<v Speaker 1>let's see the Rams just like the Cardinals, the Seahawks

0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 1>and forty nine Ers are all one and one going

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 1>into Week three. It is the Big Red Rage presented

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:14.280
<v Speaker 1>by Santan Ford in Gilbert Paul calvec Ron Wolfley's Special

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:17.799
<v Speaker 1>Thanks to Big tight End Max Williams always a great guest.

0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:20.279
<v Speaker 1>Among other things, wolf I liked what he said about

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Trey McBride because we don't know hardly anything about where

0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Trey McBride is tracking, but man, he was effusive in

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:31.040
<v Speaker 1>his praise and an outlook for Trey McBride. Yeah, you

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 1>know what, honestly too, I am this is something I

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:35.880
<v Speaker 1>was talking about earlier, and then it was good to

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:39.759
<v Speaker 1>hear Max actually back it up in regard to Trey McBride,

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 1>the fact that he sees him as a why as

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:45.879
<v Speaker 1>a stud tight end, a tight end you can line

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:48.879
<v Speaker 1>up on the tackles hip and let him come off

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 1>the ball at the point of attack, and a guy

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:55.719
<v Speaker 1>that is equal blocker as receiver. And that's what a

0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 1>stud tight end is. And I hope that's what Trey

0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 1>McBride is gonna if evolve into. All right, every game

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:04.439
<v Speaker 1>plan against the Rams Cardinals, no better than anyone they're

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:06.919
<v Speaker 1>in the division, starts with trying to have a plan

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:11.200
<v Speaker 1>for ninety nine. Aaron Donald and yes, Cliff Kingsbury was

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 1>asked about that this week. Donald nobody has a plan

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 1>for that. But I like the group we have. Those

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:21.160
<v Speaker 1>guys Rodney and Hugh and DJ on that left side

0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:24.759
<v Speaker 1>really communicate well and play with a calm when they're

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:28.439
<v Speaker 1>out there together. And Beach and Rodney have really helped

0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Will him being right in the middle to communicate and

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 1>help him play and not think so much being new

0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 1>in our system. So well, we'll do our best on Donald,

0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:37.759
<v Speaker 1>just like everybody else. But but he's kind of an

0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:39.799
<v Speaker 1>unstoppable force, and you got to make sure he doesn't

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:42.080
<v Speaker 1>just completely right the game. Yeah, they move him up

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 1>and down the line, he won't just be over Will Hernandez.

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 1>So I asked James Connor, as we know Wolf, we've

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:49.040
<v Speaker 1>had him on the Big Red Rage or teammates at pit.

0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:51.279
<v Speaker 1>No one knows ninety nine better than James Connor. I

0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:53.440
<v Speaker 1>asked him for something we don't know about Aaron Donald,

0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and he sort of smiled and he said, you know,

0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:58.880
<v Speaker 1>there was a game pit against Duke and he actually

0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:04.440
<v Speaker 1>simultaneously tackled the quarterback and running back together at the

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:08.920
<v Speaker 1>mesh point during the handoff. He busted through so fast

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:11.719
<v Speaker 1>and got through the offensive line so quickly that he

0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:14.239
<v Speaker 1>tackled both the running back and the quarterback at the

0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:17.480
<v Speaker 1>handoff and took him down. Yeah, that'd be legendary right there.

0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 1>What no, Polly, And he's pretty good at swinging helmets

0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:23.720
<v Speaker 1>as well. So what do you do? I mean, seriously,

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:25.800
<v Speaker 1>what do you do if your cliff about Aaron Donald

0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:28.480
<v Speaker 1>and then all the other problems that the RAMS present. Paul?

0:41:28.520 --> 0:41:30.320
<v Speaker 1>I love the fact that you asked me this question

0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:32.440
<v Speaker 1>right here, because I'd like to call it, Paul, the

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 1>hexagon of victory. Are you ready, Paul, the the hexagon

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:40.000
<v Speaker 1>of victory? I got six points right here. Number one, Paul,

0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I'd say, believe you can beat Aaron Donald in the Rams.

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:45.720
<v Speaker 1>That's number one? Are you good with that, Paully, believe

0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:49.280
<v Speaker 1>believe you can actually do it? Yes? Number two block

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Donald, all right, Paul. That's number two. Number three

0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:57.279
<v Speaker 1>is stay balanced by running the ball, and run the

0:41:57.360 --> 0:42:01.400
<v Speaker 1>ball in particular at Aaron Donald. Paul, that day is

0:42:01.480 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 1>going to be huge, right there. I saw the Arizona

0:42:05.200 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Cardinals run a version last week, of course, against the Raiders.

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:11.840
<v Speaker 1>In that second half. I saw them run their version

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 1>of twenty two and twenty three double and Paul, I

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 1>kid you not, it was double. It was the power

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 1>without the poll. I'd love to see that make another

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:26.120
<v Speaker 1>appearance against Aaron Donald. Number number four, Get the ball

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 1>out quickly to slow Aaron Donald down. Paul, all right,

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 1>throw the ball, get it out quickly of the pocket.

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:36.399
<v Speaker 1>Number five, stay out a third and obvious pass situations

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 1>so you can avoid sacks and pressures from Aaron Donald.

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:44.240
<v Speaker 1>That's number five. Number six, the hexagon of victory once again, Paul,

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:47.439
<v Speaker 1>pick and choose when you go up tempo in this game,

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:50.880
<v Speaker 1>and when you run wide receiver screens, and when you

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:55.640
<v Speaker 1>run middle screens to the running back to exhaust Aaron Donald.

0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:58.560
<v Speaker 1>There you go, Paul, You're a hexagon of victory. Okay.

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 1>So there were six there, hence the hexagon, and five

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<v Speaker 1>of them had to do directly with Aaron Donald. Actually

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<v Speaker 1>all of them. Paul. Okay, you forgot about the first one,

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<v Speaker 1>which is prepare yourself to beat them, believe you can

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<v Speaker 1>actually win. Oh okay, I thought that was just a

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<v Speaker 1>general believe you can beat the Rams because they have

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<v Speaker 1>lost ten of the last eleven against Sean mcvagh and

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams. Man. I know, Paul, and it really is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's tough. The one good thing about it is, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>at least that one victory has occurred in the Cliff

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<v Speaker 1>Kingsbury era right in it. It's not distant memory either.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to go all the way back to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen. You have to look just to twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one last year and the fact that they beat the

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<v Speaker 1>Rams and beat them soundly in La. Yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know you remember the headline after that Week four win

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<v Speaker 1>in La Empty Cup. So I'm gonna take your hexagon,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make it an octagon, and I'm gonna add

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<v Speaker 1>two more bullet points. Both have to do with Cooper Cup,

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<v Speaker 1>mister triple Crown or receiving and delivering. My points would

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<v Speaker 1>be Buddha Baker who was asked about Cup and Matthew

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<v Speaker 1>Stafford together. A lot of formations look the same. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're really good with you know, knowing when it's man,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing when it's zone. And Cooper Cup's really good. Him

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<v Speaker 1>and Stafford have a great connection with even if it's

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<v Speaker 1>a maybe a ten yard end, he might sit it

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<v Speaker 1>or he might even break out. And that's all goes

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<v Speaker 1>with the connection that those two have together. There you go,

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<v Speaker 1>Buddha Baker on that combination, which was lethal in year one.

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<v Speaker 1>So now with another offseason, what are they gonna be like? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Ronald Doll, Polly Man, the Rams offense has really been

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<v Speaker 1>up and down. They have really really struggled as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And from time to time even the Rams defense looks

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<v Speaker 1>a little disheveled, which is weird to see that because

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<v Speaker 1>typically we're used to sing an Aaron Donald and Company

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<v Speaker 1>run over. But man, I will tell you, Polly, the

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals got a shop, but they're gonna have to execute.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like Max said, Well, don't forget about Tyler Higby.

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<v Speaker 1>He has twenty targets in two games, so you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>figure that out. Is Isaiah Simmons gonna in the tight

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<v Speaker 1>end or not? Because you saw Darren Waller catch a

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