WEBVTT - Thinking Sideways: The Montauk Project 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:16.079 Thinking Sideways. I don't know, you've never known stories of 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:21.360 things we simply don't know the answer to. Hey, everyone, 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:29.200 this is Thinking Sideways the podcast. I'm Devin, joined as 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:36.720 always by Joe and Steve and Steve and Steve. Hey, guys, 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:41.479 happy birthday. Huh but it's our birthday today? Where you're 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:45.520 all today? Not quite? Yeah? Yeah, it's been fifty two. 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:48.480 Isn't this our fifty second episode in fifty two weeks? 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:54.560 Fifty two weeks? Yeah, but the first? Oh why? Yeah? 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:56.560 Well think of it this way. Your birthday is on 0:00:56.600 --> 0:01:00.639 a certain day, right, and there's three days in the year, 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:04.920 so on day three, it's the day before your birthday. 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:07.960 If your birthday's day one, it makes sense. Alright, fine, 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:10.959 I'm just gonna trust you, guys, So fine, never mind, 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:15.800 Happy birthday next week. Thank you for the wishes. You're welcome. 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:20.440 I'm it's about to be delivered in the form of 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:25.280 this episode. Okay, and this is a juicy and testing episode. 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:28.440 It's a it's an okay one. Yeah, it's actually a 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:33.839 listener suggestion from way back, probably one of our first 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:37.319 listener suggestions. Yeah, it's it's an old one. Yeah, we 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:41.440 got it. Via Reddit actually from a user named oh 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:51.520 and eight oh and eight. No, it's and eight oh 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:57.800 and date. Thank you. Sorry, sorry it took me so well. Actually, 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:00.920 let's be honest. I remember we all say Joe would 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:03.200 probably do this story. So it's really Joe's fault that 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.680 we haven't done this story. Yeah, that's true. A slacker. 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.079 Now this one was. This one was a little too 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:10.680 overwhelming and confusing. It's it's one of these ones where 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:14.600 how it got it got its start and pretty soon 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:17.040 like everything with the kitchen sink was in there. Yeah, 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:19.680 that's why I have this handy dandy bullet point list 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:23.360 of all the things that I think are hilarious attached 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:25.320 to them. So what are we talking about. We're gonna 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:29.800 talk about the mont Talk Project. Oh yeah, yeah, and 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:32.680 of course it's it's sister project, the Philadelphia. Well we're 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:35.840 gonna go ahead and gloss over the Philadelphia experiment today. 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:41.040 But you know that it's connected. Apparently it's connected, well 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:48.800 connect connected in that it exists in the same universe. Um, 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:54.520 but I figured conoman and you know what this could explain. 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:56.840 This is why it's your birthday gift, Steve is because 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:59.840 it could actually explain every all of the fifty two 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:04.080 stories we have thus far tackled. Yeah, anyways, I just 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:07.480 figured we would gloss over the Philadelphia project, save it 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.280 for a rainy day, alright, because it's too big for 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.080 little old me to handle. It is kind of a 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:20.360 big tangled mess. Yeah. The Montalk Project, I'm saying that right, right, 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:26.440 is this um series of secret US government projects that 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:30.760 were conducted at UM. I think I'm as far as 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.400 I can tell, it's the same place. It's Camp Hero, 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:38.160 which was renamed the Montauk Air Force Station, right, the 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:41.720 Camp Hero became no, the other way around. I think 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.480 that there was a Montak Air Force Station and then 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:47.440 they donated the land to the county or something I 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:49.760 thought to Nasau County, and then they turned it into 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.520 they turned into a park, right. But Camp Hero was 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:56.280 during the World Wars. It was an army base, and 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:58.640 then it became an air Force base. Then they donated 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:02.760 it to be a state park. Right, Okay, I'll buy that. 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:09.200 It's in Montalk, Long Island. Apparently it existed for the 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:13.520 purpose of developing psychological warfare techniques and exotic research in 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:19.000 two time travel or Yeah, well, I was going to 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:22.520 do I feel like that's psychological warfare kind of right. 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:27.120 Or alternately, there was a stargate there and Nicola Tesla 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:32.120 and some aliens probably made it entirely possible. I you know, 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:35.159 I'm laughing at that, but we'll talk about it in 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:38.719 a minute. Yes, yeah, does have a role in this 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.840 m So I'm gonna tell you guys a little story 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.000 hopp in the not so way back machine. We're not 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:45.839 going to hop in the way back machine. We just 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:49.920 took it out last week. We gotta Yeah, it's so. 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:55.599 In nineteen forty five, American troops liberated France, Right, that's true. 0:04:56.000 --> 0:05:00.080 We know that that's not really a conspiracy. Apparently, at 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.919 the same time, some troops discovered a train full of 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:06.599 Nazi gold that was stopped in a tunnel. They notified 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:09.800 the proper authorities, who arrived on the scene, took the gold, 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.960 and then killed all the soldiers because dead men tell 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:17.680 no tails and I couldn't. I couldn't. So were these 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:20.520 the soldiers that discovered it? There were US soldiers or 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:23.560 soldiers that were already on the train. It was Nazi 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.040 soldiers that they killed. Oh, I understood it that it 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:30.400 was a soldiers. Yeah, that's why I'm asking because I 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:33.360 remember thinking I read that it was they killed all 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:36.200 the Nazi soldiers. Well, I think they probably just killed everyone. 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:38.240 Well yeah, I mean, if there were not these soldiers, 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:41.200 certainly they killed them. But I'm given to understand they 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:43.599 also killed the Allied soldiers. This is a release of 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:46.320 call of duty, basically, is what you know? You're right here, Yeah, 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:50.599 you gotta kill everybody in the tea bag them. Yeah. 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.160 So you know, the moral of the story is a 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.320 kind of train load of gold. You just like hide 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:57.839 it and don't tell anybody, you know, you not your 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:02.320 national secret. Oh my, what's that national treasure? Yeah? You 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:07.359 national treasure? Yeah, I'm on it. Okay. Also, at the 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:10.520 same time, during the crumbling Reich, right, that's how you 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:13.440 say that word, the third Reich, the third Reich. I 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:15.800 just you know what, sometimes I can't say words. It's fine. 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:19.760 We know this. Americans were helping German scientists flee the country, 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:23.880 which we also recognize as probably being true or absolutely 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:27.080 being true or I don't know how many we got 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:28.760 out before the wars the end, but we certainly got 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:30.640 grabbed a bunch of them after the world was over too. 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:34.479 Can I can, I can I interrupt something. Fine, all right, 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:38.320 because we're talking about this paper clip and we're talking 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:43.120 about the Germans a little bit here, I'm guessing that 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:46.040 some of the weird German experiments or why we took 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:50.080 these guys. Yeah, So, did you guys see the article 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:55.080 that's come out recently about Hitler and Himmler and the 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:58.200 awesome stuff that they wanted to do making their own 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.720 Jurassic Park. Know what? I didn't hear about that one. Yeah, 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:05.600 it's it's so funny and evidently this is quote unquote 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:10.640 true papers that have been discovered. Is that to help 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.600 show that the German lineage had been there was always 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:15.360 the strong people. What they were gonna do is they 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:19.920 were gonna backwards engineer some it's a bull or some 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:22.200 kind of cow that was seven feet tall that was 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:25.440 from the dracks Jurassic period and release it into the 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:28.840 wilds of Poland so that these strong men of the 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:32.040 Reich could hunt them. Because that's right up there with 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:33.960 the crazy stuff that we're going to talk about that 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:37.200 these guys were in. I guess I feel like if 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:38.920 I had a lot of money and was planning on 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:42.000 taking over the world, I would probably build a Jurassic Park. 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.400 I think they had a real Jurassic I think they 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:48.120 probably should. We saw how well that worked in film 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:56.760 number one through four. Well, obviously we wouldn't dummies' realistic. Anyways, 0:07:56.800 --> 0:08:01.920 back to our story. Sorry, sorry, operational opera and lots 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:04.080 of these scientists were brought back to America and teamed 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:07.600 up with scientists who worked on the Philadelphia experiment. Given 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:10.360 the Nazi gold that we were just talking about, why 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.600 were they give the Nazi go and and a research 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:17.440 facility that was built underground and that became the Montalk Project, 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:21.880 building a twelve story underground complex. Maybe yeah, we'll talk 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:25.080 about but they built under there in a minute, because 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:28.840 it turns out apparently the government, though they have given 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:33.079 all of the land to the Forest Service, they still 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:37.000 own the land below the radar unit that sits on 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:41.920 top of the Montalk Project. Yeah, apparently that's that's true. 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:43.880 But they I think what that meant really is that 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.280 they kept the mineral rights just in case, you know, 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:48.200 gold was discovered or something like that. And I'm not 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:52.880 talking Nazi gold. Gold were discovered, Yeah, but why did 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:55.440 they give them the Nazi gold to pay them in 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:58.000 to fund their research? But why didn't they just like 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.160 get some money from the treasury. Well, because there was 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:04.559 this Nazi gold. I mean you have gold, well, I 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:05.959 don't know. I mean I think you have to launder 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.240 it somehow. You can't just like go to the bank 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:11.559 and say, hey, here's all this Nazi gold. We're gonna 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.960 we're gonna keep it melted down. I mean, I guess 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:20.640 you probably could. You are the US government. I don't know. 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:24.240 It's a good question. Um, I don't have a good answer. Sorry. 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:27.520 I can keep making things up if you want. We'll 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:32.439 move on. Okay. The base is all the way at 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:35.480 the end of this island, the east end of Yeah. 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.800 For people who live on Long Island, you follow Route seven. 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:41.760 I don't know what that means. It's a it's a point. 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.560 It's kind of a spit of land. It's kind of yeah. 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.920 If you if you look at Google Maps, like the 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:50.360 highway goes out on the south side of the island 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.679 and then Montak Point is like there's just like this 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:56.400 little blob that's the very very end. That's why. Then 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:59.479 it narrows down to this very narrow, skinny little passageway 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.319 widens out again and that's where Camp Hero and all 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:05.360 that other stuff is yeah. So, um, in World War 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:08.680 Two it was called Camp hero H and it was 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:13.240 used for coastal defense, had like really big guns. Well 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:15.560 it's got the big radar station on it. Well, now 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.960 did they have guns? They had large guns and bunkers. 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:21.800 And then that was the Army gave the base to 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:25.120 the Air Force and it became known as the Montalk 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:29.040 Air Force Station and they built this big radar if 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:32.000 you google Montalk project, and actually we'll put up some 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:35.440 pictures on the website too. That huge radar thing is 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:38.720 what we're talking about. Apparently it was used as an 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:43.120 actual radar station in the Cold War. And what kind 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:44.880 of do you remember what kind of radar it is? 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.360 It starts with an S. I thought it was an 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:51.520 age or something like that, remember, Yeah, I mean it was. 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:54.160 It was. It was a technology that as soon as 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:57.200 they built it was at a date it was no 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:00.360 longer worth anything. It was like, I was a chance 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.439 to go on board an old fifties era submarine that 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:05.680 was called the Sailfish and it was built as a 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:09.120 radar picket boat. Because their radars weren't small enough to 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.320 put on planes. They could land on aircraft carriers, but 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.680 the aircraft carriers needed greadar coverage, so they built a 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.800 series of submarines that had these enormous sales and these 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.800 retractable radar dishes and everything so they could be a 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:23.480 distance out with their radars on, monitoring for incoming enemy 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.240 planes and everything. And then before they even I don't 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:28.600 think they even did much time in service, and then 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:32.559 it became obsolete, and so what we do with this thing? Well, 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:34.560 I guess we'll just turn it into a regular submarine 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:38.600 with a really huge, huge sale on it for fun. Yeah, 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.240 that's what they did then, because we can thrown it away. Yeah, 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:44.679 according to the legend, I guess the base lost its 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:49.480 funding in the nineteen sixties because the radar technology became obsolete. 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:55.199 But apparently it was open until three because they were 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:59.160 doing experiments, I guess. And as Joe previously stated, the 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:02.920 it's a to New York State Park now, but the 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:06.319 radar equipment is still intact in standing. You can actually 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:10.000 see it on Google Earth. Yeah. Yeah, well, and people 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:12.800 use it rather than the lighthouse. It's on Montauk Point. 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:16.120 They use. The radar is kind of a daytime reference 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:20.000 point because it's it's easier to see the lighthouse. It's big, 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.360 it's really big. And you know, as I said before, 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:28.080 the story is that they actually built bunkers below it, 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:33.439 like built down um, and that the government retains the 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:37.240 rights to that, whether it's actually not improved on there 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:40.440 and it's minerals or what have you. Apparently the US 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:48.240 government still owns whatever is below. So apparently if if 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:52.360 in fact there is something below there, it's the base itself, 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.719 and the radar was actually a cover up for what 0:12:54.800 --> 0:13:00.280 was below. Apparently there were as many as twelve stories deep. 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:01.880 I don't know what do you call it when it's 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:06.240 not levels levels deep. Some people say that it's like 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:10.000 really really documented, that there's a subtranean city beneath the 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:12.840 base that's still being used today by secret branches of 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:16.000 the military. People say that the radar equipment was built 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:19.520 as a cover up that the military could conduct experiments 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:22.400 in time travel in mind control, and that the electronics 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:25.200 equipment was a cover for that. People also say that 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:28.240 there's a fifty foot tall pure titanium pyramid under there. 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.600 So I guess we'll take what people say with a 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:35.880 little bit of a grain of salt. A titanium pyramid. 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:37.440 I don't know. I was thinking like it would make 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:39.320 more sense to say it was gold and then that's 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:42.760 what they used, the Nazi gold pork. But a pretty 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:46.360 big pyramid. Yeah, but I don't know why. Pure Titania 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:56.880 because it conducts spacetime anti matter better radio. Yeah. I 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:58.800 gotta say, if you're going to build a twelve level 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:01.640 underground complex, that seems like a really inappropriate place to 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.199 do it. Yeah, it's pretty close to the water where 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:08.160 the water table, pretty close to the surface there. It 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:12.360 seems like there's a lot easier places to build. It's conceivable, 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:14.520 But I think they'd go like hollow Watter Mountain or 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:17.920 something like that, or maybe pick a dormant volcano and 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.440 build their layer in there. Maybe they needed the seawater. 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.360 Good point. I want to point something out too. I'm 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.280 ashamed of all all the people out there that have 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.320 gone over this story so many times. We're not noticing 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.640 this obvious thing. But only twenty miles away to the 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:36.280 north northwest is Grout in Connecticut, home almost US submarine base, 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:39.640 and it's entirely possible they were smuggling Nazi gold, scientists 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:42.440 and everything else via submarine across the Long Island Sound 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:48.680 to a secret subterranean submarine base underneath the complex that 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.160 I see it. Yeah, I get it. Actually, that's a 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:58.120 really breakthrough theory. That's a really good theory. Absolutely totally. 0:14:58.200 --> 0:14:59.960 That's because when you think about it, why would they 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.840 pick this particular spots such in such a populous area 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.080 for the area it's fairly it's as somewhat deserted, but 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.320 it's such a populous area, you know why they wanted 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:12.760 to go out somewhere in New Mexico in the middle 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:16.000 of the desert somewhere. Well, think about what's twenty miles away. 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.520 Submarine base. I know it makes no sense. No, actually, 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.200 I mean it makes more sense than a lot of 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:25.080 stuff we're gonna talk about tonight, when you're talking about 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:29.640 twelve level underground complexes. I think a secret subterranean submarine 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:32.480 the base is kind of kind of a necessary thing. 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:34.960 I think it's kind of cool. Yeah, I agree. Interesting. 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:41.760 So here's the story, kind of I'm sorry, here's the theory, 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:48.200 the kind of overarching theory or what happened here or 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.240 what was happening here? I don't know. There's a lot 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:53.360 of these. This is the one that I like. The most. 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:57.840 I feel like there's a lot here with your favorite 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.560 and then just trail down from there. I mean, the 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:03.120 rest of them are just kind of like weird assertions, 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.360 like nobody has gone spent very much time to kind 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:12.960 of give anecdotal evidence or anything like that. Then well, okay, 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.680 this one is too, but there's this anecdotal evidence that 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:18.280 whereas the other ones I can bull up point down. 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:25.440 That makes sense. Okay, So honor about August twelfth three, 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.000 all credible stories start with honor about just throw that 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:32.480 out there. A porthole in time quote unquote was created 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.360 which allowed researchers to travel anywhere in space or time. 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:41.440 This was developed into a stable quote time tunnel because 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:45.600 of this to a single point in the past. Well, no, 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:51.200 they could kind of control it. Maybe it's unclear. There 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:55.360 are two kind of variations on what happened specifically because 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:59.320 of this in the first instance, Uh, they both kind 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:02.200 of have the same thing to kind of have. Well, 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:07.399 well let's just start talking about this, okay. Um, so 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:11.199 because of this time tunnel was just a really long tunnel. 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:18.960 Did you need like a golf cart? Because of this 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:24.640 time tunnel, either the Time Travel Project at Montauk interlocked 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:29.040 in hyperspace with the original Philadelphia experiment in nineteen forty three. 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.840 The story tends to go thus, like the USS Aldridge 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:36.560 that was in the Philadelphia experiment, I guess, I don't know. 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.280 I was drawn into hyperspace and trapped there. Two men 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:44.080 Alt how do you say his name? Black and Duncan 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:46.840 Cameron both claimed to have leaped from the deck of 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:50.480 the USS All Eldredge while it was in hyperspace and 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:54.440 ended up after a period of severe disorientation at Camp 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:58.480 Hero in the year three. At the mont Talk project, 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:02.960 they claimed to have John von Newman. That's how you 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:10.000 would say that, right, That's how I say that. He's 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:19.680 a physicist and mathematician. Um. He died in nineteen fifty seven. Three. 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:24.679 Just calm down. He apparently, that scientist Von Newman Um 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:28.600 also was apparently connected to the Philadelphia experiment. So the 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:32.119 claim is that they actually in Montalk the time tunnel 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:37.600 opened up into the Philadelphia experiment. Maybe Apparently. The origin 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:43.200 of the Montalk project dates also to nineteen forty three, 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:47.840 when radar invisibility was being researched aboard the U S S. Eldredge. 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:52.719 I don't know it's kind of this modgepodge of story 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.040 that I can't totally tell. Here's the easy way to 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:59.919 think about the Philadelphia experiment. They wanted to figure out 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:03.280 how to make a ship invisible the radar. They did 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:08.560 some cookie science, and some kids in a van got involved. Okay, 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:12.760 now that parts out real, But they accidentally made the 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:16.040 ship disappear for a couple of moments. It completely went 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:21.440 invisible to the naked eye and radar, It traveled through time, 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:24.360 and then it zipped back to where it came from, 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:28.359 and people were dead because they had fused with the 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:33.399 ship or were completely loony. Yeah, mentally, that's the simple 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:36.720 cliff notes version of the Philadelphia experience. Sure, so apparently 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:41.720 where the ship ended up was the Montalk project apparently, 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:44.240 so that would that would explain a lot. Though. So 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:47.119 when it disappears, that's because the Montalk thing is causing 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:50.879 it to go like that. And I can't decide if 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:55.960 they if the theory is that the Philadelphia Experiment caused 0:19:56.119 --> 0:20:00.800 the time tunnel opening, or if the mont Talk experiment 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:05.040 caused the uss Aldredge to disappear, But somehow they made 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:08.399 it up that forty year bridge. Yeah, apparently and then 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:10.359 was his name? Jumped off the ship and wound up 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:15.280 in Montalk? Yeah, what's his name? Alan Duncan and Duncan 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:18.720 Cameron And I can't tell you guys said that you 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:21.600 watched some interviews with him? Is that try? I listened 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:25.680 to part of an interview with alb Be Like, is 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:29.760 that how we're saying his name? Be? Like? Okay? And 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:33.640 I couldn't totally tell if he claimed to have been 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:38.760 part of the Philadelphia experiment in nine three. He did. 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:41.639 It's really weird. He claims he was. He was on 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:44.480 that ship in forty three, and then he jumped off 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:46.920 in Montalk and he well, he jumped off while it 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:49.920 was traveling through hyperspace, so he looked at his buddy, 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:52.800 Richard Dean Anderson said I'm out of here, and jumped 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:57.360 out while he was in the wormhole, and he traveled 0:20:57.400 --> 0:21:01.600 in time. He says he ended up in the year 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:06.000 twenty three hundred in something and was there for a while, 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.240 and then he ended up in the year twenty eight 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:12.760 hundred and something and lived there for a while, both 0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:16.080 times having no recollection of who he was at first, 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:19.600 and then eventually figuring it out, and then somehow traveling 0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:24.840 back in time and ending up in and then when 0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:28.920 he was he lived there for a while. Yeah. Yeah, 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:31.159 he was a tour guide. Was a tour guy. He 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:33.680 was a tour guide because they had cities that were 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:37.840 twenty two or twenty three hundred stories tall, and they 0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:41.960 had anti gravity technology, and they had computers that ran 0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:45.960 the government, and as he said, they were a socialist society. 0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:49.399 There's a lot of weird stuff in in his stuff. 0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:52.000 Anybody wants to listen to it. There's a bunch of 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:54.560 his interviews online. I didn't listen to all of them, 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:57.440 but it's about three hours of interviews. There's a couple 0:21:57.480 --> 0:22:00.560 of them that are kind of compiled really a three 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:02.560 hour video that you can just listen to, and it's 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:05.800 all most of it's just audio. But I'm not gonna 0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:08.560 say that he's a kuk or a loot or anything 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:12.920 like that. But he makes some pretty fantastic claims, and 0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:18.600 most of his stories are really really simple. Like he says, well, 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:21.919 then they had train systems, except their train cars were 0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:25.480 wider than ours. It's a train, okay, Well, what's so 0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:29.680 futuristic about a train? It's some weird stuff, like very 0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:32.760 like very simple I almost wonder if he, you know, 0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:38.560 accidentally did LSD or something. Yeah. The thing about it 0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:40.640 is is like, and this is why you know he's 0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:43.280 full of he's full of it. It's because he traveled 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:45.959 to the future. And I think about this. I mean, 0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:48.840 if somebody from say two d years ago transports to 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:51.639 our time, he would see things that would be that 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:54.920 would have been inconceivable in his time. Not just he 0:22:54.960 --> 0:22:57.240 wouldn't have just seen things that would have been an improvement. 0:22:57.359 --> 0:23:00.000 He wouldn't have seen, you know, a donkey on steroids 0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:06.120 and a sup turpo charge steam locomotive. He would see 0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:11.480 things like airplanes and iPads and the Internet. He would 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:14.359 see stuff that his society could not have conceived of. 0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:18.000 Probably like and all of his stories, not a single 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:20.320 thing that he saw so many centuries in the future, 0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:22.119 not a single thing that he saw, is something that 0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:24.840 doesn't already exist in our society today, which tells us 0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:28.960 that either all human creativity basically disappeared about you know 0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:33.160 about right about now, or that you know, the guy 0:23:33.280 --> 0:23:35.320 is just basically full of it. Well, and he also 0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:40.720 he also makes the jump that the human world population 0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:44.640 was kind of decimated at some point in the near 0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:48.760 future and some war and that seems like the sort 0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:51.520 of thing you would get some serious details on. Well, 0:23:51.600 --> 0:23:55.679 and do you remember the Georgia guidestones. He talks about 0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:59.760 the New World Order and that at the year hundred 0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:03.720 the planet was at what was it, uh, five hundred 0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:08.000 thousand or five hundred million, five million people? They were 0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:11.080 keeping the population right around that number. So it's when 0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:14.720 did he do these interviews? Uh? There several years ago? 0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:17.440 It was really hard. I thought I thought it was 0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:21.960 from two thousands. Yeah, he is something like that. Yeah, 0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:24.400 So his interview was I mean, he was talking about 0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:26.959 the Internet, and it was strange because I swore at 0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:28.560 her in the Internet. At one point they said two 0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:32.040 thousand twelve, but then that he would start talking about 0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:34.840 the early two thousand. So I couldn't tell exactly when 0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:39.880 the interview I listened to was, but it just was very, 0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:44.879