WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys Break: Kicking Off #CowboysCamp 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:07.880 This is the Talking Cowboys Break, streaming live on Dallas 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:13.520 Cowboys dot Com and the officials Dallas Cowboys app. What's Up. 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:17.760 Welcome back to Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio, and welcome 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:22.200 to Oxnard, California. For the start of twenty eighteen Cowboys 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:24.800 training camp. Rob Phillips right here at the River Ridge 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:29.320 Complex joined in a joint show Talking Cowboys Break. Ryan 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:32.519 brought us Nick Eaton and repping the break, holding the 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:35.320 Ford down and break Nicky Spagnola down at the end. 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:40.000 What's watch the old thing? Yeah, that's all like Ela 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:43.800 posture exactly. Not well, I could work either way, like well, 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:48.400 you know, old miss yeah, old Mike, Come on, everybody, 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:50.519 Okay with this heat wave quote unquote that's going on 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:54.400 down here southern California. Okay, nobody's feeling sorry for us, 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:56.959 not at all, but they are, you know, they are 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:00.200 kind of talking about it here that the locals are like, man, 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:02.160 this is the hottest it's ever been any I guess 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:05.240 it feels good. Yeah, you want a weather report, a 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:08.320 quick one seventy two degrees, it says, all right, now 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:10.440 it doesn't feel like that. I bet it feels like 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:13.600 about eighty. Let's see what it says we're doing. Okay 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:16.800 out here, we're just getting rolling. Cowboys are about to 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:19.160 get rolling. Hey. By the way, guys, Yeah, we'll have 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:21.720 some long sleeves occasionally out here. We'll have our daily 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:27.000 shows throughout camp, Talking Cowboys, Cowboys, Break, Hanging with the 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:30.440 Boys as well, And today's show is just a primer, 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:34.240 just an appetizer leading into the annual Training Camp State 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:37.640 of the Union press conference with Jerry Stephen, Jason Garrett 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:41.320 and uh so we're just getting you guys set, everybody 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:43.959 ready to go. What time we'll be doing those other shows? 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:50.600 I believe nine am Talking Cowboys, okay, Pacific time, followed 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:53.520 immediately by the break at ten am Pacific. Hanging with 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.840 the Boys is in the afternoon, thirty two thirty Pacific 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:58.640 player guests, they get, They do a good job of 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:02.520 that show. Shannon, they hustle. He's a special guest booker there. Ye, 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:06.920 maybe you should change the nickname you have for it. Yeah, 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:12.720 Brian hanging with Shannon. Exactly. Let's not forget a six 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:16.400 time pro bowler. Nate Newton's on there, Yeah, exactly, Nates 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:19.040 on here? Right? Is he here? He said he'd be 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:21.280 here and telling for the press conference that starts at 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.160 eleven o'clock. Come by and see him if you see 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:28.119 any of the sign autographs and stuff like that. So, 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.480 as I pointed out to Rob, this is the official 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:32.800 start of training camp right here. This is the show. 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.920 Our show is. Nothing else has happened here. I mean 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:41.679 there's radio road just okay, they don't count fair enough. 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:46.000 So we're getting everybody started. Let's star partners exactly. Let's 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.880 ignore those guys, right, but the fan too, Mick. Yeah, 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.839 let's get it about doing their thing. All right, let's 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:54.520 get started. As Dallas Cowboys dot Com goes, this is 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:58.720 right kicking out of the game. The reason for that, 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:01.800 we're beating the presence. All right, Let's let's get you 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:05.280 under control here. I starts you off with some news items. 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:07.800 Let's that they're gonna get addressed probably in this press 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.600 conference here, Mick, start starting with Randy Gregory, who's been 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:12.680 in the news quite a bit in the last few days. 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.880 He's gonna be the conditional reinstatement is going to be 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:19.800 lifted at I'm told one o'clock here, so three o'clock 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:23.960 Central time, four o'clock, that's when the NFL does their business, 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:26.400 and they'll put it down the wire so he'll be 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:30.600 eligible to do whatever he's capable of doing, or what 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:35.440 the Cowboys decide he's capable of doing. So my guess is, 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:38.560 I just can't imagine he's going to go out there 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:41.840 the first practice and do everything everybody else is going 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:45.160 to do depending on how he does this morning on 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:49.880 his conditioning test. Okay, fair enough, fair enough with that, 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.920 there's a roster spot. You know, you got to create 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:55.280 a roster spot. And I think you know, as the 0:03:55.360 --> 0:04:00.880 last we've heard that they're weighing their options because there's 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.480 been some talk that David Irving might not be reporting 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:07.240 on time or to start with, and if that happened, 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.400 you can put him on a list of did not report, 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.160 which takes a roster spot. So there's a player out there. 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:13.360 I don't know who it is. I mean, you guys 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:16.720 might know there's a player that's probably you know, not 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:18.920 not long for this. I keep pack kind of like 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.640 yahip yesterday, you know, but but I don't know who 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:24.479 that is. And you know why why being in a hurry. 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.040 You know, if David Irving is not going to report 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:28.240 and there's their spot, and then knock on wood there 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.960 might be an injury, you never know, and so um. 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.480 But but I would imagine if Irving does get here, 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:37.840 Gregory's reinstated officially, then somebody they got to release somebody. 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:39.960 And the word, Brian, it's not official yet, but the 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:42.080 word we're hearing about David Irving is if he's not 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:44.520 here for the start of camp, it's an excused absence 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:47.080 continuation of you know what we've seen part of the 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.159 offseason where he was allowed to handle some personal business 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.080 from the team, absolutely and we've all that's been well 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:57.159 documented that he had some things he was going through with, 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:01.480 you know, his girlfriend, the other of his child, and 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.200 you know, you were hopeful that the time that was 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.720 spending the offseason that he could have been able to 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:09.839 kind of put that all behind him. And then the suspension, 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:12.920 you know, came the four game suspension, so things kind 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:14.960 of piling up on him right now. And as we 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.840 get ready for camp, it you you talk about, uh, 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:21.320 you know, kind of a one unknown coming back where 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.320 you know, Mickey and and Nick we're talking about the 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:26.880 conditioning and you know, I was hearing some very positive 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:30.720 things about Randy Gregory being out here in California working out. Now, 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.279 is he in condition to where we've seen at the Star, 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:36.320 You know, probably not, but it's gonna be good to 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:39.719 have him back. I was really worried, guys, that the 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.480 league was going to hold him out longer. Yeah, these 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:44.760 practices here in Ox Starry, we get so much out 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.479 of it watching the practice and that. You know, it's 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:50.640 the compete periods, it's the team stuff, it's all that. 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:53.000 I was really worried that the commissioner was going to 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:55.360 hold him out for four or five days and then 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:59.000 him miss those significant practices. Now he can jump in 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:03.160 and just as maybe productive as a Charles Tapper or 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:05.080 somebody like that. It's one of these guys, I mean, coney, 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.280 these guys, these defensive ends are trying to make the team. 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:11.279 And now again that's Randy Gregory, but you know, David 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.720 Irvy just continues to get to a point where you're like, 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.200 when is he ever going to get a break. But 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:19.880 you know, like I said, with him missing the first 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:22.120 four games, the Cowboys are now a little bit of 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.760 a luxury to be able to say, okay, step back, 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:26.680 go do what you need to go, do what you 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.560 need to do to get things together and then come 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:32.280 on back. And there's some question about that depth at 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:35.040 defensive tackle immediately too. You know, you don't have Irving 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.720 for the first month. He's not potentially not going to 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.600 be a start a camp, and then Malee Collins as 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:45.360 a question mark. Yeah, maybe a pup pup today won't 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:47.800 be able to start practice of foot surgery. So there's 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:49.440 guys that are gonna have to step up there early 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.360 in camp as they look for the first preseason game. 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.080 You know, the thing on Randy Gregory now he may 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.480 be able to take part in the first couple practice 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:59.680 is because there's no more than an ota or right camp, right, 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.159 there's no pads and then the key thing will be 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:05.920 to put the pads on as he ready on his 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:09.400 hand and there's no rush, right. I mean, goodness, you 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:11.680 waited this long. Yeah, you know you got to make 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.880 sure he's out there because I guarantee you at some 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.840 point he's gonna pull a hamstring. I mean, I was 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:20.320 didn't want to hear that right there. I didn't want 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:22.080 to hear that, and I but I wanted to. I 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:25.560 wanted I just didn't want him to miss any opportunities 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:27.680 on the field, you know, I didn't want him to 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.400 have to be you know, okay, it's you know, three 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.920 four days and he's over there with Britt Brown working 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.520 by himself or with the strength of staff. I wanted 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:38.520 Randy Gregory in there competing with him and Charles Tapper 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:40.920 and and Cony Ealy and all those guys. I wanted 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:42.880 to see, Hey, you know, let's start to try and 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:45.880 figure some things out at this defensive end spot. But well, 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:47.480 you bring up a big question too, And I know 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.320 you guys are concerned about the defensive tackle spot. Yeah, 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.120 you know where how's that rotation going to play? You know? 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.880 And we we've we've seen some guys and I've been 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.880 nobody's been cheerly any more than this jihad Ward trade 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:01.480 that they made with Oakland during the during the draft 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:05.400 for what I've seen with him athletically play and you know, 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:07.320 but he's gonna get a chance to go up against 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:09.160 Zach Martin and guys like that, and that's where you're 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:11.480 gonna learn a lot about jod Ward. But you know 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.200 who else who you know, who else, Brian Price, who 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.480 else is gonna come along? They're gonna need some guys 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:18.760 to step up and kind of give them a little 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.360 bit of an indication that that, okay, going forward, we 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:24.440 can we can count on these guys to do the job. 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:27.960 You got a guess on who's gonna take MALIEK Collins 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:31.040 a spot? Wow, I think he's out. Yeah, I think. 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.120 I think what you're going to see. To me, I 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:35.679 look at this in a couple of different ways, and 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.600 I think that I like with us, I've seen with 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:41.040 jahad Ward, but he'll do the three right. But the 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:44.240 Jones Donte Jones, I think that's where because that's what 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:47.000 we saw initially. Mickey, you'll remember this very well. That's 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:48.840 what we saw during the OTAs in the mini camp. 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:52.200 I think that's the initial way they're gonna go, and 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:55.240 then let's see what happens behind that. Okay, what's the 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:58.240 rotation going to be? Well, you know, this group too 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:00.640 does a pretty good job. If a guy's a backup guy, 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:03.240 they might have an afternoon practice where all of a sudden, 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:06.280 Nick Eatman queating, oh wait, hey, somebody's getting first team reps. 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:08.800 So if you get a second team guy to get 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.240 a little burned with the with the first offense or 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:13.120 first defense, to kind of see if he can he 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.320 can handle the workload, and I anticipate that's what they're 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.600 gonna do. Price. Brian Price, I don't disagree with. He 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:20.880 was doing some good things before he got hurt last year. 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:22.680 And you know, one of those big body guys takes 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:24.480 up a lot of space. There's a need for that. 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.440 He's got a unique skill set. You know. Rod likes 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.040 Manaronelli likes guys that can get up the field, bright 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:32.400 trade pass rushing, don't have to necessarily be the big, 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:34.480 sloppy nose tackle. I'm not saying Brian Price is big 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:38.880 and sloppy, but he is a true Yeah, you know, 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:42.720 he's the Nick Hade version. You know, Nick Haye played 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:44.760 a couple of seasons being that way, you know, being 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.280 that guy that kind of holds things up on the 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:49.400 line of scrimmage, can play a little bit outside the 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:53.280 tackle box, you know. I mean, that's they've got to find. 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.120 You know, there's something We went back. I mean I 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.360 went back and listened to our draft coverage and I 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:59.680 was we're all kind of talking about what is something 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.280 they might have missed out on on all this picks. Well, 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.000 they you traded for a guy like jahad Ward, But 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:06.880 I didn't think he was a one technique. We were 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:08.920 cheer leaning for a one and I don't know if 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:12.080 they necessarily, you know, they obviously feel good about Brian 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:16.240 Price to not make a move like that. So we'll 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:19.120 see how it might be something we're having one of 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.600 our shows, one of the two shows, three shows, and 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:23.600 it's Hey, they brought so and so in as a 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.000 defensive tackle just to take a look at because they 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:28.240 might not like the rotation the way it is. I 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:30.719 still think coney Ely is gonna factor into this thing 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:34.880 in a weird way. I don't disagree with to look 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:36.880 like a defensive end. I mean he looking he's looking 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:38.800 like attack. Well remember he said he was trying to 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:42.160 lose weight. Trying Yeah, he said, as he's a little heavy, 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:45.720 but he's really excited about being here because he respects 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.760 what Rod Rod Marinelli is his style of coach. And 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.719 Mickey can attest this being a missourialum. Coney Ely was 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:54.280 an upfield player on the edge, attack the edge, attack 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.280 the edge, attack the edge. So if they could get 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.160 coney Eely back to that level where he was at Carolina, 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.959 where he wasn't at acting player instead of a read 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.040 you know, like a read hold the point read react 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:08.079 kind of a guy. His game's built more like Nick's 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.840 talking about up the field play maybe the three technique, 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:14.040 get inside, and I could say I'm moving inside absolutely, 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:17.640 pass Rusher, maybe out Nickel absolutely, depending on how things 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.920 play out absolute the right defense events fine, ye, which 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:25.320 we have no clue other than Tyrone Crawford, right yeah, 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:27.600 and then what happens. Yeah, he looks better than Madden, 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:30.920 right yeah, Madden thing was a mess, but no he 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:35.480 he I think, I think and we night, well they 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.160 changed it though, you know, the slim him down. I wish, 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:41.680 I wish Madden can do that to me, slim me down. 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:44.640 But remember we were all when when the thing with 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:47.760 with Randy Gregory started, we started hearing the word. We 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.680 met with Rod Marinelli at the Star, Yeah, and he 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.760 was very excited about the fact of his guys being 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:56.559 those upfield players and he we, I mean one of 0:11:56.600 --> 0:12:00.320 us asked him about Crawford and remaking his body. He says, yeah, 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:02.319 you know, get guys up the field, up the field. 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.360 Gopie Bulky, go get up the field. So yeah, that's 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:08.440 kind of that's kind of I think Crawford is one 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:10.240 of those guys. That kind of said, okay to me 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:13.080 to play right in, I'm not gonna get eight ten sacks, 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:15.280 but maybe I could get four or five sacks, but 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:16.800 maybe I could be a little bit more, have a 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.560 little bit more agility getting up the field and getting 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:22.560 those sacks. That's one thing that I wish that fans 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:25.679 would kind of recognize a little bit more. He got. 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.079 He got the contract, and he gets viewed a lot. 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:30.400 He gets beat up for the money that he makes. 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:34.040 That contract was was supposed to be for a defensive tackle, 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.079 and it was good money for defensive tackle. He gets 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:38.400 moved out to end and you gotta remember his body 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:41.880 moving up down ten pounds here, fifteen here, and he's 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:45.040 not that edge rusher. So he's now getting compared to 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:46.920 these edge rushers and he's not doing that. It was like, 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:50.000 what a waste of money when in reality, you know 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.679 he should be playing more inside and you're you're right, Brian, 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:55.040 four to five sacks for him is really a good year, 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.400 which is what he had last year, right, And we 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:00.719 have to remember why he ended up at right defensive end. 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:05.800 They couldn't stop the run if you remember the Denver game, right, Yeah, 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.880 so they needed him over there to stop the run, 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:12.320 and they kind of calm that whole thing down after 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:15.320 that game. So he served a great purpose. Yeah, this 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:18.680 is the thing. I'm not making apologies for a player 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:20.920 because again, I think a lot of us out there 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.640 we look at the money and say, it's not worth 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:25.800 the money. It's not worth it to us to have 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:27.960 that guy. Why is he here? Why not get rid 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:31.040 of him, redo his contract. I wish people could sit 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.000 down with us and watch tape. I wish you could 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:35.240 sit down and watching people watch the game. I get it, 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:37.160 But when you watch the All twenty two, there's things 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.559 he does that in the old baseball is saying that 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.000 doesn't show up on the box score. He does a 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:44.160 lot of things that doesn't show up on the box score. 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:45.560 If you look at some of the things with Sean 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.520 Lee running into the football, it's because, like Mickey said, 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:50.840 he's holding it up, he's allowing guys to get to 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.480 the ball. He's working down inside, he's playing square in 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.240 the gap. These are things that Rod Merinillian. Those guys 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:59.000 are happy to have him, whereas Joe and Flower Mounds 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.400 not so happy because they see a guy that should 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.240 have you know, fifteen Sacks. It's the equivalent out here. 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:06.640 What can we I'm always gonna use Joe and Flower 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:10.360 moun or something like that, will there because somebody Vick 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:18.400 and Ventura Vick. Yeah, I love it? Yeah? Can I officially? Can? 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.720 I officially? I was like, what's the city, what's the 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:26.640 what's the flower mound out? And I officially confirmed that 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:30.040 Randy Gregory's here. Yes, you're gonna get some trouble. But 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:32.920 than that, he's here. Okay, oh goody good. One more 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:34.960 thing about him. That's why Micky's sitting in an angle. 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:39.280 Keep it. I wanted to my job. I wanted to 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:41.440 circle back to him. But one more thing on Crawford. 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:43.720 The other thing about him and fans may I don't know. 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:45.440 You may roll your eyes at this, but everybody's talking 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:48.720 about leadership right because guys moving on, they're a younger 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:50.640 football team. This is a guy that if you talk 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:54.640 to the Marcus Lawrence credits Tyron Crawford with helping develop 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:56.840 him along the way two boys guys, and then you 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:59.600 talk to Taco Charlton, Tyron Crawford is a guy that 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:02.280 comes up up helping these young guys get better and 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:04.480 look at where DeMarcus Lawrence is right now, look at 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.400 where Taco could go. You know, you know Lawrence is 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:11.840 here too. Yeah, real quick, just just just the thought 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.520 on on you know what you get with Crawford and 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:17.840 I look at him as what he You know, you 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.240 should be proud of the way he played with going 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:22.440 through the shoulder of the problems. I mean, he's one 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:24.760 of those guys you almost have to go get him 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:26.920 off the field, right, you know. And there's a lot 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:28.960 of things he does in in the locker room as 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.960 far as the leadership you're talking about accountability of the 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.960 players around him. He's bought into the program totally. But 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:37.600 the fact that he lines up in plays hurt. And 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:39.520 you don't ever hear about it. Now you hear about 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:41.440 it when we do shows, you know, and you or 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:42.720 you talk to me, it's like, yeah, I'm a little 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:44.880 banged up, but you know, hey, nothing, I'll make it. 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.760 Because there's there's a theory out there. Some guys not 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:50.920 necessarily on this team anymore, but you know anymore, Right, 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:53.200 you want to put bad tape on the field. Oh yeah, 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:54.880 guys that don't want to play hurt. Oh the king 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:58.240 of bad tape is now in the division. So yeah, 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:03.480 Oh so anyway, there's that as well, the component that 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:08.920 makes him think, oh yeah, so if you go let's 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:11.840 go back to Gregory real quick. Yeah, I've heard he's 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.760 in great shape. It's about two hundred and forty five pounds, 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:16.880 which when you think about when he was here previously 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.800 before a suspension guy had trouble keeping weight on. Yes, 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.560 great shape. You see what kind of condition he's in? 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:26.080 What they're in? No hurry to find out what kind 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:28.840 of condition he's what kind of what kind of expectations 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:32.240 can you question twenty? I believe from thee I think 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.200 we may just go down the list here until till 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:37.600 eleven o'clock. Uh, what can Is it too early to 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:39.720 try to put because you guys just mentioned a lot 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:43.160 of new and and incumbent defensive ends that can be 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.480 part of this rotation. He's got some competition here. Sure, 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.880 What do you guys think for Gregory? Yeah? What can 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.520 he what can he be for this team? And is 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.240 he in competition for a job or do you think 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.720 if if he shows enough, I don't think so. I 0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:00.000 don't think he may like is he on the fifty three? Yeah? 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.360 I just think they put so much time and efforts 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.720 to try to get him to this point. I think 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:07.080 that he's gonna at least he's gonna get through, you know, 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.240 this year. I think this year for sure. And to 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.640 answer the question, I just think that, you know, when 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:13.760 if he's out there and he's healthy and he can go, 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:17.240 he gives you some freakish skills off the edge a 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:18.639 little bit. I don't know if he's you know, like 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:20.359 you said, holding the edge. I think it's third and 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:22.040 eight and you get to that point, third and eight, 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:24.000 third and nine. He's great to have out there. Yeah, 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.080 they're they're just gonna have to see what kind of 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:31.680 shape he's in, because I thought I read his workouts 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:35.280 and with the guy in California that he was working 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:40.159 out what started when he petitioned the league for reinstatement 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:42.919 some sixty days, so it wasn't like for two years 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:46.040 he's been out there busting his butt. Yeah, my guess is, 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:48.360 and you know, when guys work out on their own, 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:50.680 they don't never work out like they're working out here. 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.960 So I just think they're gonna be very cautious with 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:58.160 him to start and kind of judge maybe what kind 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.240 of shapes he in before they even let him the 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:03.800 conditioning test. Rob. I'll take the counterpoint of this. They 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:06.600 went point, I'll go counter. I don't think he's guaranteed 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:09.080 a roster spot. And and I understand what they're saying 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:11.160 about all the work and stuff like that. I think 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.679 a lot of the work it was behind the scenes 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:16.080 where they have Do they have contact with him? They 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:19.080 weren't supposed to, but you know, there's things that you 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:22.320 can probably do, try and help whatever. But with all 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:26.040 the competition at the position, I don't think it, you know. 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:27.919 And the sad thing about it is he doesn't have 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:31.359 practice squad eligibility. I was told, yeah, so well he 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:35.119 shouldn't he played. But I'm saying, though, if they don't 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:38.360 have if he can't make this team, if if they 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:41.479 keep him as the fifty third guy over a Coney 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:44.159 Eely or a Charles Tapper or somebody that has a 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:47.320 better camp, shame on them for that. That's kind of 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:50.000 where I was going is there's there's a long game 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:52.160 here with him. But even all the time he's missed 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:55.399 talking about change. I like how we're promoting all our 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:59.520 series here twenty questions, point, counterpoint, let me just get change. 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:01.840 My answer I saw them do do this with a 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:05.800 tight end. Yes, last year, he might not make the team, 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:08.920 he'll be around. Yeah, you're gonna you're using the old 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:10.320 theory of like in the back of the day in 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:12.600 the eighties where used to stash cats. He'll be around. Yeah, 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:16.200 I don't know. I don't find him apartment. I just 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:19.199 go far. No, I just somehow some list. There's a 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:21.040 list for this, and he'll well, he'll be on it. 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:23.200 If he's not. But I think he if I think 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:25.800 he will, yeah, if he's If he I think if 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:28.239