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Speaker 1: This is the Talking Cowboys Break, streaming live on Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com and the officials Dallas Cowboys app. What's Up.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to Oxnard, California. For the start of twenty eighteen Cowboys

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Speaker 1: training camp. Rob Phillips right here at the River Ridge

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Speaker 1: Complex joined in a joint show Talking Cowboys Break. Ryan

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Speaker 1: brought us Nick Eaton and repping the break, holding the

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Speaker 1: What's watch the old thing? Yeah, that's all like Ela

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Speaker 1: posture exactly. Not well, I could work either way, like well,

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Speaker 1: you know, old miss yeah, old Mike, Come on, everybody,

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Speaker 1: Okay with this heat wave quote unquote that's going on

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Speaker 1: down here southern California. Okay, nobody's feeling sorry for us,

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Speaker 1: not at all, but they are, you know, they are

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Speaker 1: kind of talking about it here that the locals are like, man,

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Speaker 1: this is the hottest it's ever been any I guess

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Speaker 1: it feels good. Yeah, you want a weather report, a

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Speaker 1: quick one seventy two degrees, it says, all right, now

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Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like that. I bet it feels like

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Speaker 1: about eighty. Let's see what it says we're doing. Okay

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Speaker 1: out here, we're just getting rolling. Cowboys are about to

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Speaker 1: get rolling. Hey. By the way, guys, Yeah, we'll have

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Speaker 1: some long sleeves occasionally out here. We'll have our daily

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Speaker 1: shows throughout camp, Talking Cowboys, Cowboys, Break, Hanging with the

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Speaker 1: Boys as well, And today's show is just a primer,

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Speaker 1: just an appetizer leading into the annual Training Camp State

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Speaker 1: of the Union press conference with Jerry Stephen, Jason Garrett

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Speaker 1: and uh so we're just getting you guys set, everybody

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Speaker 1: ready to go. What time we'll be doing those other shows?

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Speaker 1: I believe nine am Talking Cowboys, okay, Pacific time, followed

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Speaker 1: immediately by the break at ten am Pacific. Hanging with

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Speaker 1: player guests, they get, They do a good job of

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Speaker 1: that show. Shannon, they hustle. He's a special guest booker there. Ye,

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Speaker 1: maybe you should change the nickname you have for it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Brian hanging with Shannon. Exactly. Let's not forget a six

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Speaker 1: time pro bowler. Nate Newton's on there, Yeah, exactly, Nates

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Speaker 1: on here? Right? Is he here? He said he'd be

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Speaker 1: here and telling for the press conference that starts at

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Speaker 1: eleven o'clock. Come by and see him if you see

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Speaker 1: any of the sign autographs and stuff like that. So,

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Speaker 1: as I pointed out to Rob, this is the official

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Speaker 1: start of training camp right here. This is the show.

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Speaker 1: Our show is. Nothing else has happened here. I mean

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Speaker 1: there's radio road just okay, they don't count fair enough.

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Speaker 1: So we're getting everybody started. Let's star partners exactly. Let's

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Speaker 1: ignore those guys, right, but the fan too, Mick. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's get it about doing their thing. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: get started. As Dallas Cowboys dot Com goes, this is

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Speaker 1: right kicking out of the game. The reason for that,

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Speaker 1: we're beating the presence. All right, Let's let's get you

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Speaker 1: under control here. I starts you off with some news items.

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Speaker 1: Let's that they're gonna get addressed probably in this press

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Speaker 1: conference here, Mick, start starting with Randy Gregory, who's been

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Speaker 1: in the news quite a bit in the last few days.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be the conditional reinstatement is going to be

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Speaker 1: lifted at I'm told one o'clock here, so three o'clock

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Speaker 1: Central time, four o'clock, that's when the NFL does their business,

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Speaker 1: and they'll put it down the wire so he'll be

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Speaker 1: eligible to do whatever he's capable of doing, or what

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys decide he's capable of doing. So my guess is,

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Speaker 1: I just can't imagine he's going to go out there

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Speaker 1: his conditioning test. Okay, fair enough, fair enough with that,

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Speaker 1: there's a roster spot. You know, you got to create

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Speaker 1: You got a guess on who's gonna take MALIEK Collins

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Speaker 1: they might have missed out on on all this picks. Well,

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Speaker 1: feet wet again on the field. He needs to have

424
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Speaker 1: he needs to have four sees to have one sack

425
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Speaker 1: of game playing in the fourth quarter against a kind

426
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Speaker 1: of a half mediocre backup tackle. Yeah, get some confidence

427
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Speaker 1: rush and then if you know, you get him going

428
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:42,919
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, and then you get that to

429
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 1: the you know, maybe playing that whole Houston game at

430
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Speaker 1: the end. Just but get him, get him going. But

431
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Speaker 1: I think he has to make this team. I just

432
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,199
Speaker 1: don't think this is going to be a gift. And

433
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Speaker 1: especially if Charles Tapper now here I'm saying about Charles Tapper,

434
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 1: you don't have to cut a defensive end. Well, I

435
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,400
Speaker 1: don't know. There's gonna be seven, seven guys and eight

436
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,680
Speaker 1: guys inactive on game day. Ring will be on the

437
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 1: suspended list for the first month. So that's I'm just saying, though,

438
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 1: it depends on you because you're gonna have to carry it.

439
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,919
Speaker 1: You're going to carry the third quarterback. Okay, how many

440
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,880
Speaker 1: extra receivers are you gonna carry? Six? How many tight

441
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 1: ends are gonna carry three? See, that's what I'm saying.

442
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 1: What if what if all of a sudden, the guy

443
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Speaker 1: that Nick's talking about does have a good camp. What

444
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 1: if Rico gathers? Yeah, what if Freco Gathers makes this team?

445
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 1: What if Rico? What if they don't want to? What's

446
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,159
Speaker 1: the upside? Who do they got more invested? Who's the

447
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 1: up what's the upside between those two guys. That's what

448
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,640
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out. Well, if one of them

449
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 1: and we don't know, that's why we're here. Yeah, if

450
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 1: I think the one, I would rather have to be

451
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Speaker 1: honest with you, because I think he could help the

452
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 1: team if he's on his game. Is Randy Gregory. I

453
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 1: don't know if Freco Gathers, but I look at this though,

454
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Speaker 1: is if Rico Gathers has a similar training camp to

455
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Speaker 1: how he had last year, he's going to be a

456
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Speaker 1: consideration for the fifty three. So what's your numbers? What's

457
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Speaker 1: your numbers? If you're if you're you, Mickey, you're very

458
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: adamant about that, and I'm with you, carry three tight

459
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 1: ends go forward. But there might be something where there's

460
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 1: some positions where they're gonna have to say, Okay, well

461
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 1: what about that fourth who's the fourth safety? Right now?

462
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 1: It's Huff? You know, do you want to go into

463
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Speaker 1: that you want to go to season with Huff being

464
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Speaker 1: your fourth safety? I mean they might have to make

465
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,360
Speaker 1: some moves to and carry extra safeties just because they

466
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 1: don't trust who they had is the third and fourth guy.

467
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Speaker 1: If he's playing, you are talking about roster talking, he's

468
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Speaker 1: playing in four in the fourth quarter of four preseason games, yeah,

469
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Speaker 1: he'll have four sacks. I'm with you. I'm with you

470
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Speaker 1: on that. I'll just go ahead and say, feeling dot Com,

471
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Speaker 1: I hope, I hope you're absolutely because if he and

472
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Speaker 1: then what happens after that? If Yeah, he was Lawrence

473
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Speaker 1: Taylor two years ago and then all of a sudden,

474
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Speaker 1: you know, he was. If he if he gets a

475
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Speaker 1: sack of if Taylor, if he gets said Jake Taylor

476
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Speaker 1: from Jake Taylor, couldn't cut it. But if if he

477
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Speaker 1: if he has a sack of game in four preseason games,

478
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Speaker 1: he makes his fifty three. Yeah, if he, I'm I'm

479
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: with you, guys, if he shows enough of I've been

480
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: off eighteen months, but I can help this team at

481
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 1: some point. Yeah, they've invested so much, and obviously we

482
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: haven't even talked about the programs and protocols in place

483
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: for him off the field to maintain his eligibility, and

484
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: he's got to follow those and if he does, if

485
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 1: he takes one step off the road, he's done with

486
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: football for the rest of his life in the NFL.

487
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 1: That's yeah, very very likely. Or it's like being on

488
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Speaker 1: the balance beam in gymnastics. Got to be able to

489
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Speaker 1: walk it. I love the analogy. All Right, we've we've

490
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 1: hit Randy Gregory for a good half hour or so.

491
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Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's talk some other stuff. I don't think

492
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Speaker 1: we're taking breaks here. I think we're going right up hill.

493
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Speaker 1: Prescott the Draft show. Yeah, there's another one just to

494
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Speaker 1: draft show. There we go promote the draft show that's

495
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: coming up in a few months as well. Did you

496
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Speaker 1: bring your Tommy Johns to training camp? I did? I

497
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: got him on right now, Beck, Brian, you're gonna get

498
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: cow buzz in here. Somehow may get cow buzz in there.

499
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Speaker 1: Check it out. It's up on the side, right one,

500
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, there was a couple of there. We

501
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 1: got some good cow buzzing. He was great. Okay, before

502
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: we get to draft, we got to see what this

503
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 1: team can do on the field and the expectations of

504
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: this football team. I guess I'm just gonna go with

505
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: a broad macro view here. What what do you think

506
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: of the expectations of this football team as we lead

507
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: into a state of the Union for a team and

508
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: when nine and seven last year, with some injuries, with

509
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 1: some suspensions, didn't make the playoffs? What do you think

510
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: the field the buzzes around this football team right now,

511
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: from them around them and the outside Because I don't

512
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people from the outside

513
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: are given this team a lot of a lot of love,

514
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: to be honest, Yeah, I think though the outsides got

515
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: them nine and seven, and they're firing the head coach. Yeah,

516
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: that's problem. That's pretty popular, I think just because of

517
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: the turnover on this roster and Jason Garrett's admitted, Look,

518
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: we've got three guys on the team that are thirty

519
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 1: year older. It's young, it's it's unproven in some spots,

520
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 1: but they are getting back some key guys, hopefully for

521
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: a full season. Zekiel Elliott and the running game and

522
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: all that. That's their formulas still right to try to

523
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Speaker 1: get this thing done right at one time, and Mickey

524
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,959
Speaker 1: has beat the drum about this. If you looked at

525
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: what they were able to do offensively leading up until

526
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: the suspension, there were twenty eight point games, thirty three

527
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: point games, forty point game. You know, I think that's

528
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Speaker 1: what they want to get back to. They want to

529
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: get back to that team that beat the Kansas City

530
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 1: Chiefs before Ezekiel Elliott went out. That was a team

531
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Speaker 1: that was did not other than the one big play

532
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: before half, you know that the that they made that

533
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 1: Hill made before half. They didn't give up a big

534
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: play in that game. They didn't. They they were they

535
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: were sound on defense, They ran the football a guy

536
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: like Terrence Williams was nine targets, nine receptions. You know,

537
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 1: they were getting people involved. I think that's the type

538
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: of football they want to play and they're capable of

539
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: playing that way. Will the schedule they'll allow them, and

540
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 1: you don't know that. I think it's a very difficult one.

541
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: I think going you know, having to play the NFC South,

542
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 1: it's going to be difficult for him. You know, road games,

543
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: when you get that, when you got to go to

544
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: Carolina to start the year, I think that's gonna be

545
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: very difficult. And then you got the AFC South. You know,

546
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 1: Jacksonville has much improved playoff team, championship team. You look

547
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: at Houston, They're not going to be as bad. Watson

548
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: will be healthy. I mean there's some there's some potential

549
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: pitfalls down the road, but they've got to find ways

550
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: to get back to what they were really good at.

551
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: Running the football, protecting the quarterback, uh, not giving up

552
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 1: big plays, and playing really good in the red zone

553
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: and then being on offense being good in the red zone.

554
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: That's the recipe for winning. They could beat anybody in

555
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: the league when they play like they did against Kansas City,

556
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: because that's kind of a complete game for them, Yeah,

557
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: best best game in the year. And you know, but

558
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: then again, they're capable looking like they did against the

559
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers on Thanksgiving, you know, giving up big plays,

560
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: not protecting, not running the football. If that's the team

561
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: you get, yeah, you're gonna have a lot of problems.

562
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: But I think they're closer to the Kansas City team

563
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: myself than I do the team that played against the

564
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers. You know, the good thing about all

565
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 1: those teams, you said they got to play, so does

566
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: everybody else in the NFC. No, No, that's and that's

567
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: gonna make it difficult to not forget that. No. No,

568
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that an't gonna have some difficulty too.

569
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,199
Speaker 1: I'm sure on Jaguar right now they're saying, well, hey,

570
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 1: you got to play the NFC East. Now they're probably saying, oh,

571
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: we get to play the Cowboys. Well that's a that's

572
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: a trip they have to make. You know, they have

573
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: to come and you just play the games that are there.

574
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 1: But if again, this team is very capable of playing

575
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: like they did every week against Kansas City. They're capable

576
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: of that offensive line, play protection, receivers, getting open, preventing

577
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: big plays, playing well in the red zone, getting a

578
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: turnover to kill the game at the end, Terrence Williams

579
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: catching the ball to get a first down and stay

580
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: and bounce to keep the clock going. They're capable of

581
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: that kind of play minus to play at the end

582
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: of a half. That's exactly right, which I use as

583
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: an example for the new kickoff rule, with the head

584
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: coach saying, you know, when you have big spaces like

585
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: that and you get a player like Tavon Austin, you

586
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: kind of end up with maybe that play at the

587
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: end of half. I was trying to be funny. He

588
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: didn't think it was funny, no, but he agreed with me. Well,

589
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: that's that's my expectation as team, you know, my expectation

590
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: that there could be some growing pains at left guard.

591
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: We've talked about it. I think I think, I think

592
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: all our eyes and we're gonna, you know, have compete

593
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: period out here, and you're gonna get to see Connor

594
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: Williams go up and get some of these defensive tackles,

595
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: you know, and we'll see that. But I think there'll

596
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: be some growing pains. The great thing that I'm excited

597
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: about this team as the rookies that they've added, because

598
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: they've been able to watch them as drafted players. But

599
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: they've been in. They've been at the Star the whole

600
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 1: time they've been in. They've been at the Star every

601
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: time I look out the window, they're out there working out.

602
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: You know, they're maturing, they're getting better, they're getting you know,

603
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: they're getting physically, they're getting stronger, they're getting in shape,

604
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: and they're gonna rely on a lot of these kids

605
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: to have to play. You know, Michael Gallup is going

606
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: to have to go out there and find a way

607
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: to beat Terrence Williams out of his job. I don't

608
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: think Terrence Williams is gonna let him have the job.

609
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: But that's good. Let Michael Gallup go out there, Let

610
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: him go compete. Let Connor Williams, you know, learn at

611
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: left guard a little bit, you know. But again, there

612
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: could be some some a little bit growing pains with you.

613
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: But if there's growing pains there, I think they've got alternatives. Yeah,

614
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: I don't think they have to move anybody around. Sure,

615
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: I don't think they have to sit there and watch

616
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: him fumble around. If he can't do it right, They've

617
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: got backups that have played in the league that can

618
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: actually step in there, guarantee you they'll play as well

619
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: as Jonathan Cooper. Yeah, that's that's the key. They went

620
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,959
Speaker 1: through last year thinking Okay, we're okay now and then

621
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: and I give him credit for this, because sometimes when

622
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: you're getting that personnel side of it, you're thinking, Okay,

623
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: we'll be fine, we'll be okay, we'll be fine. And

624
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: they think that and something happens disastrous, like that run

625
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: that they had in Atlanta, and it's like, Okay, we

626
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: need to do something different. And that's the sign of

627
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: somebody that you just don't beat your head against the wall.

628
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: You find a way to say, Okay, let's go out

629
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: and get a capable swing tackle. Let's go out and

630
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: draft a capable left guard. Jerry said at the draft

631
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: press conference. Why Connor Williams is here, Yeah, Atlanta, Let's

632
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: draft a Layton Vanderis, who's got a physical who's got

633
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: the physical presence to play as a mike linebacker. Let's

634
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: figure out what we need to do. Jalen Smith being healthy.

635
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: There's a lot of positive things that are going to

636
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: be in this camp. It's just got to all kind

637
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: of come together and some of these guys can't have

638
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: bad days. You know, the guys that are the consistent ones.

639
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 1: As we talk about these practices, consistent guy, consistent guy, consistent,

640
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: those will be your fifty three players. Some of these

641
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: guys will find a way to cut themselves out here.

642
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: They will cut themselves because of not being consistent, not

643
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: playing well in preseason games, and that's that may will

644
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: make your team better. Nick, how do you size this

645
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: whole thing? That was our top question on twenty questions

646
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: yesterday as we flew out here. I think this is

647
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: a good football team, honestly, I really do. I think

648
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: that when you look at what they came back from

649
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: last year, Um, if they can, they obviously have to

650
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: stay healthy, and I think they've done a good job.

651
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: There are three main injuries or setbacks they had last year,

652
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: or Zeke, Tyrant, smish on Lee and whatever order you want.

653
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: They they've they've upgraded the tackle position, They've upgraded linebacker.

654
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: They're just counting on Zeke kind of being Zeke. I

655
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,239
Speaker 1: don't think they've really added like a true backup if

656
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: he goes down or maybe well you know better, Yeah,

657
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: you'll see it, you know, right. They figured out things

658
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: in that Giants game. I think this is a pretty

659
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: good football team. I really do. I think you're sitting

660
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: you're right there at the nine and seven, eight and eight.

661
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: You got to get two wins to get above that.

662
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: There's gonna be about four games this year that go

663
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: one way or another. They it's got to go your way.

664
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: The only thing that I'm I'm not worried about. I'm

665
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: just thinking we'll see it. I want to see Dan

666
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: Bailey because these games come down to field goals at

667
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: extra points, good point, and I think it'll be fine.

668
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: But we need to see that and he needs to

669
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: show it. But I really do think this is a

670
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: good football team because every time they play those at

671
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: offensive line and Zekiel Elliott should be an advantage. And

672
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: if you can run the ball and do those things

673
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: and just enough of a passing game to kind of

674
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: get them off you a little bit. I think they

675
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: can win every single I mean I can win every game.

676
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: I think they can win every game. I was gonna

677
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: ask you guys, though, when well, who was all part

678
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: of the are you closer to Philadelphia or not? Who

679
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: was part of that twenty question? I wasn't in that question.

680
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: It wasn't the question, it's the it's the talent of

681
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I don't think yeah, we weren't on that one.

682
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: I was on it. And yeah, how close to the

683
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: Eagles as far as personnel one? What did you say

684
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: on that one? I kind of felt like that they were, Yeah,

685
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: I went matchups, but you know, you're you're some of

686
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: the key spots though you're looking at quarterback. At one

687
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: time you thought, yeah, pretty close, and then you know

688
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz had an MVP but Dax had an MVP

689
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: type season as well. Offensive lines, man, it could be,

690
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: but you know, defensively, I think that's where they've got

691
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: right now, at least defensively across the front seven. I

692
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: think that the Eagles are probably a little bit better

693
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: the Cowboys maybe a corner a little bit better, you know.

694
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: So it's not as the gap between the two to

695
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: me is not huge. I mean if it was, if

696
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: it was huge, I would say, Okay, this team will

697
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: be the Eagles are gonna be twelve and four in

698
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: Dallas is nine. I didn't think Philadelphia was answering that

699
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: question the year before. Oh no, I'm with you. See

700
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: how vast change they then they did some really good things.

701
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: They Yeah, they had some guys hit they had and

702
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are very capable of some of their draft

703
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: picks doing exactly. You know, the Eagles had a fifth

704
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: round offensive tackle step in for a Pro Bowl left tackle,

705
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: So you have to have some good things happen, and

706
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: you know, they got in their in their coach obviously

707
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: handled things well at the end of the year with

708
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: their quarterback. I think thirty to fifty three on the

709
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: on the roster, that's where I think teams like the

710
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: Patriots and the Eagles always in the Steelers sometimes they

711
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: always kind of get you there because because yes, the

712
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: injuries happened, and how do you sustain them and all that.

713
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: Talent wise, I mean, you can line the Browns up

714
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: and and and the Bucks and the Cowboy and everybody

715
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: up and they're gonna be great right off the top,

716
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: great right, awesome players. As you start getting up to

717
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: fifty three, that's where the Eagles and I think they

718
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: do a good job. That's what that's that's why when

719
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: you're looking at this team, a, yeah, Tyren Smith will

720
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: be great, but it's Cam Fleming, is Marcus Martin or

721
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: the tight ends these guys exactly, something's gonna happen. And

722
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: and you know Layton vander esh yesh Lincoln spoke to

723
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: us yesterday and said, look, I've got to stay healthy.

724
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: He it's been an issue for him. So they've they've

725
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: tried to address depth at spots where they know they

726
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: can't afford to lose guys, so they got backs who

727
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: want to play. That's fair. Well, I was gonna go

728
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: to that because I think he's right. Well, you're right.

729
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: I was with Brian. I don't think and to your point, Mick,

730
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that big a gap. I think

731
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: every year the NFC East, there's there's not a lot

732
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: of margin for error between these teams. And we saw

733
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys did. They bounced back in twenty sixteen

734
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: Eagles did. They were kind of mirrors of each other

735
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. So we'll see. I think

736
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: if they can line up and run the football like

737
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: they normally do, they can they can have that formula

738
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: for success that they've always had. Even though the Eagles

739
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 1: have done a nice job. I mean, trade for Michael

740
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: Bennett that helps their defense out, we'll see. I was

741
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: just gonna say you're talking about corners this year. You know,

742
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 1: you got some young guys coming in, you know, coming

743
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: into their second year. I think we're sitting here next year,

744
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: twelve months from here, I think I think you got

745
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: the two best corners in football, the best cornerback duo

746
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: in football. Wow, I really think so. No, I mean,

747
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: right now, we'll see if that they got to play out.

748
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: But I think we're sitting here if we fast forward

749
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: twelve months, I think Cheeto and Jordan Lewis, I think

750
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: the two are gonna be this is the best combination

751
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: of corners in the NFL. I really think so. And

752
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis is in a spot right now where he's

753
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: been that second team battling for spot duty. But he's

754
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: no doubt a talented young player. That guy's gonna be.

755
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: Do you kind of see him then taking over You're

756
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: gonna go on, just go on that ledge and say

757
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna take over the right corner spot. That something's

758
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: gonna happen with Byron Jones. I mean I'm not saying something.

759
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: I mean like he's gonna outplay Byron Jones. So I think, Mickey,

760
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: you're down that line, aren't you. I just said, I

761
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: gotta see it. Yeah, Byron Jones hasn't played corners since

762
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: he was a rookie, right, and I don't. It was

763
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: only four games, didn't play that well, so you know

764
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: the body size says, Oh he's gonna be great. Yeah.

765
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: The new technique they're gonna use it cornerback gives him

766
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: an opportunity. Right now, you gotta see it. Let's let's go.

767
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: It seems like they've kind of taken Jordan Lewis and

768
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: maybe thrown him out with the trash a little bit.

769
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: Though he was he was a guy. It was your

770
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: starter at right, owner and then all of a sudden,

771
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: Chris Richard group comes in. Well somebody's got to play

772
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: in the slot. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. No,

773
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: I don't. If you look at with the way the

774
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: OTAs in the mini camp were rolling out, it was

775
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: there was Anthony Brown well that they were kind of

776
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: sharing it. There's there's time, to your point, there's time

777
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: to earn jobs. Yeah. Yeah, so we'll see. But where

778
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: I was going because if he goes outside, then who's

779
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: in the slot? Aw? You sold on Anthony Brown. See

780
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: that's another question you have Anthony Brown was greatest rookie year,

781
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: badest sophomore season. You're hopeful when they took him out

782
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: of the starting rotation, he was actually playing a little

783
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,439
Speaker 1: bit better. You know. That's he came on the second half. Yeah,

784
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 1: exactly when the after the after the Los Angeles Charger

785
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: to Bacle and they said, okay, just throw the young kids.

786
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: Finally the young kids were all healthy enough to all

787
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: play together. They threw him out there and let him go,

788
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: and it was a better group. I think the consensus

789
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: maybe across this table is Cheeto health willing can take

790
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: a step forward, maybe a major step forward. Because we

791
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: saw him ball out in December. I think I think

792
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: he's the best one you got in that secondary myself

793
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: so where I was going and Mickey led me there. Defensively,

794
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: what this team, what they can add to this team,

795
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 1: because we've talked about Zeke in the running game, but quietly,

796
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 1: this is a football team that was eighth and defense

797
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: last year did a pretty nice job, had some struggles

798
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: when Sean went out. Chris Rashard's impact and maybe these

799
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: young guys taking a step forward, like you said, vander

800
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: esh helping at linebacker, Maybe this defense help Smith, Maybe too.

801
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: This might be a surprise defense too, if Jalen Smith

802
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: is healthy and vander ash is what they think. Think

803
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: about this. Damian Wilson's been the starter of the last

804
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: two years of strong See we're going here. He may

805
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: be a backup. I was That's exactly what I was thinking.

806
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: So they've created a little bit of depth, right if

807
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: if indeed those two things pan out, I'll tell you.

808
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: And Joe Thomas hasn't been bad, and then and then

809
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: march Lillard, justin march Liard weren't bad. They got a

810
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: ton of reps in the OTA, so they could build

811
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 1: a little depth there with those, with all those that linebacker.

812
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: Maybe it went from a position of like, yeah, from

813
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: a position that went from a big question mark too huh.

814
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: This group's gonna potentially be all right though. And you know,

815
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: when we were talking about the defensive end, we didn't

816
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: even mention Dorence Armstrong or Taco Yeah. Yeah, and and

817
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: so there you're right, there's kind of a bat. But

818
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: you gotta have a backup on the left side. Sign Lawrence.

819
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: I think he TACCOs. That guy, I think tacos are.

820
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: I think tacos are left in and he hey, bring

821
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: him off the bench, let him kind of get some

822
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: work there, you know, let them other guys fight it out.

823
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: Let that right in, fight it out. And if you

824
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: if you're good enough to be part of what Nick

825
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: was talking about, Mickey, the kicking guys in and out,

826
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: nickel packages and stuff, that's a that's a sixty percent

827
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: of the game as well. So if you can rush,

828
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: go for it. You know you brought up Bailey, I

829
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: guarantee you when they go to kicking drills, we're all

830
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: marking it down again. For the last three or four

831
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: years we went and took a break. We got water. Right,

832
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: it's gonna make them. He might miss one out of ten,

833
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some charting going now. We're gonna chart again,

834
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: right exactly, just to see. Now he kicked well, it

835
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: looked like in the in the OTAs and and he

836
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: kicked what he's been kicking out there by himself. And

837
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be a lack of work because he

838
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: goes out there with his six footballs, the little kicking

839
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 1: tea and he kicks six and he goes and by himself,

840
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: and he's been out there late at night, picks up

841
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: the balls, or walks back starts again. So the key

842
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: thing will be yeah, up here, you think it was

843
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: like a golf swing for him when he came back

844
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 1: from injury. They the routine, Yeah, out of his routine.

845
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: I think that, yeah, yeah, and then you start you

846
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: miss one and you start es doubting yourself and you

847
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: know it's snowballs. So maybe the time off he gets

848
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: back to being the Dan Bailey where when they get

849
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: to kicking and h August twelfth or thirteenth, where go

850
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: get our water. That's the point nobody's really brought up, Nick.

851
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: I don't think it was among the twenty question. Maybe

852
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: it was Dan Bailey yeah, and the kids, yeah yeah,

853
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: and getting that pays back. I think the question was

854
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: is he the biggest bounce back player? And yes, yeah,

855
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: you know anybody else needing a big bounce back. I

856
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 1: know you talked a lot about you know, Cole Beasley

857
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: needs to get back into that group. Um, But but

858
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: you know there's some other guys that you know, I

859
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: think he's the biggest one, but there there's there's a

860
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: handful of players that you're like, you know, and maybe

861
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: not from here, but I know Tavon Austin feels like

862
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: he needs to bounce back in his career. And have

863
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: you know last year wasn't his best year. Yeah, so yeah,

864
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: it's funny. I'm considered thinking we've done this show now

865
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: for probably forty five minutes. We haven't talked about Winton,

866
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: and we haven't talked about Dez Bryant, and we haven't

867
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: talked about the quarterback either. Real amazing in the passing game.

868
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: And it's kind of you're sitting and you're thinking about

869
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: coming to a coming to a training camp without Jason.

870
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: I was on the on the on the charter getting

871
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: ready to take off. I saw LP farther up the cabin,

872
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 1: and I swear for a second I thought it was winning.

873
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: I thought it was winning, And because it just used

874
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: to see him, it's strange, not how many camps is

875
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: this for you? I think this is the first one

876
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: you've ever had without him. First one was three when

877
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: he was a rookie third round pick. So yeah, it's

878
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: it's odd, no doubt. It is strange too that that

879
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: that the two players that were probably this time last year,

880
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: we probably couldn't talk enough about Dez Bran and what

881
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: he could do. Jason Witten, you know, is it time

882
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: to replace Witton? What do you know? You know, you

883
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: know all that. So it's a it's amazing how this

884
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: this this works, you know, with the with your roster.

885
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: He really really one of the things that that I'm

886
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing is is who replaces those two

887
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: guys out here out here in the practice field. One

888
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: thing about Dez you can say, what do you want

889
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: about him? He rose the level of competition for everybody

890
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: on that field. He would he'd come to practice, he'd

891
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: bring it. He'd be talking smack out there. Then the

892
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: DV dbs would come up, and I mean he brought

893
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: that intensity Witton same way Whitten wouldn't. He would be

894
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: talking trash as well. And so those two guys right there,

895
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: you knew every day they were gonna bring it, and

896
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: I think that really helped them practice. Who's gonna be

897
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 1: that guy who's going to be the ass kicker out here? Yeah, yeah,

898
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss Witt And walking by training camp live

899
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: and dropping an F bomb on us. You know that

900
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 1: was that you're right in the middle of action. Remember

901
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: when he told when he caught that pass on that

902
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: safety had been a first round pick at another place.

903
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: And he just yelled at the whole Media's like, get

904
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: the scrub out of here. The guy had been a

905
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: first round pick. H he was, he's you'll meet he's

906
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: an as nice a guy as you'll ever meet, but

907
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: he's he was kind of a lunatic out there on

908
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: the field for fifteen years and a good way. I

909
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: mean like he set the tone for this team. And

910
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: you're right, I don't know des gets enough credit for

911
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 1: that too. On the field, challenging guys, challenging the DBS.

912
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: There's only one guy that's got enough cred to be

913
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: the lunatic. But it doesn't pan out because there's not

914
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: contact one on one with a running back. Yeah, Zeke

915
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: could get people fired up. Yeah, but they're not gonna

916
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,959
Speaker 1: get the opportunity because number one, they're not gonna tackle.

917
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit him right and let Yeah last year

918
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: that was hanging over his head and right happened out here.

919
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: He wasn't the same, hope, but he could stir He

920
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: could stir things up. But if you think about everybody else,

921
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: so we see it's gonna be a quiet camp. Well,

922
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: I just don't see I don't see one of me.

923
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: I want to I don't see one of those receivers

924
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: having the personality or the cache. Yeah, go spike a

925
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: ball at a DB's toe. I have a feeling it's

926
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: gonna be the opposite way where guys like we talk

927
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 1: about a wooz here. Maybe the defensive back. I see,

928
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see having those one on one periods.

929
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: How much these defensive has a little bit in that

930
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: that's got to do it. I saw a little bit

931
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: of training camp. He's gotta do it. He's got to

932
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: stop the drill and yell. And I saw him. Oh

933
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: he can do That's aw him do it. Yelled at

934
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: Chaz Green. But but are you gonna do it? Are

935
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: you gonna do it? At Tyrn Smith? But but what

936
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: he can't do is pick on the defense. I would, Yeah,

937
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: the quarterback can't pick on the other side. One of

938
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 1: these offensive guys to pick on the defens I'm gonna

939
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: see like Lewis and those defensive backs start yelling at

940
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: Dak and then draw him into the fray and then

941
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: well they were already doing what I'm saying, Yeah, and

942
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: their position coach gets a little fiery too. Oh yeah,

943
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: ye receivers. Yeah, So there's that element too. Christoph Shar's

944
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: gonna bring it every day in practice too, from the

945
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: sideline wearing his cleats, which how many coaches DC do that.

946
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: You mentioned the wide receivers, right, yes, he did. You

947
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: mentioned the wide receivers. Let's go, let's go there before

948
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: we get out of here, and Dak obviously Okay, you're

949
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: asking who's gonna bring the fire at receiver. Well, maybe

950
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: maybe these guys are gonna have to because of the

951
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: competition they're in. Brian. This nicely laminated roster that you

952
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: gave me, it's got twelve receivers on it, and there's

953
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: no there's there's no set role for any of these guys,

954
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: including Cole Beasley. We know he's gonna be a key

955
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: figure what they do, but where he lines up, it's

956
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: it's it's really an unfinished situation that these guys have

957
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: to earn roles of all the positions on this depth

958
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: chart that you look at receivers. May I said earlier,

959
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 1: I said, players find ways to cut themselves. The receivers

960
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: that'll be the group. They will find their best five

961
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: or six out of that group. Now they might have

962
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: to go get it one off waivers or whatever, if

963
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: it makes a difference. But that group that that is

964
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: the one group that has to be consistent every day.

965
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: You have to play with tired legs, You have to concentrate,

966
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,479
Speaker 1: you have to make plays. You can't have bad days.

967
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: And if especially if you look at okay, we think

968
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: you know with Beasley, Gallop, Herns. Oh, three guys, right,

969
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: that's kind of that's kind of guys making the team.

970
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: Maybe now now you're thinking about fourth guys that Terrence

971
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: Williams is it? You know who who else is going

972
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 1: to make I mean, they've got some other spots. Guaranteam

973
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: contract them, have them make the team. Okay, well if

974
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: that's if that's the case, then you've only got two

975
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: more spots for the rest of those guys if you

976
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: think about that. Yeah, but but somebody out of that

977
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: group is going to elevate themselves. Uh, Noah Brown can

978
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: elevate himself, or Noah Brown can cut himself. You know,

979
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the position that I'm looking at is,

980
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: and I don't know if I've ever seen this in

981
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: any position ever on this team is tight end. Yeah. Yeah,

982
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: you look at the guys there. Could they cut a

983
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: fourth round pick if he doesn't play well. I mean,

984
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: I think you then that's the borderline. You know you

985
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: would hood. I don't think they want to. There's not

986
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: a lock out there. I'll tight end. There's not a lock.

987
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: Nine career catches on that group right now, all by

988
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: Jeff Swain, and it's nine more than us. Yeah, combined. Well,

989
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I've never had and we

990
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: haven't had a chance media game count. Yeah right, but

991
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: I no, no, absolutely, that's so wide open. It's the

992
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: position that's always been seemed like, to me, the most stable.

993
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: You don't even think of it. You never thought about

994
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: it because number eighty two would come walking down with

995
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: the ramp with his blue bands on his arm, and

996
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: he's not going to do that. So now I think

997
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people I'm I'm really interested on the

998
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 1: offensive side there, I really really am. I'm interested on

999
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: the receivers and the tight ends. I think that those

1000
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: guys have got to find a way to have good days.

1001
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: They cannot have bad days because you have a bunch

1002
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: of bad days, they're gonna have somebody else in your spot.

1003
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: And we mentioned Terrence Williams briefly. We're not sure if

1004
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: he's a day one get practice guy right now, right

1005
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 1: coming off foot surgery. I am at some point he'll

1006
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 1: be ready. Yeah, I've been. I've been. You know. The

1007
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: great thing about officing at the Star is you can

1008
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: turn around and watch the field and seeing him run

1009
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: around out there, and I know they're gonna be cautious

1010
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: with him. I gotta be careful about that. But I

1011
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: think he's gonna play with a chip on his shoulder

1012
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah. I think Terrence. I think Terrence has

1013
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 1: got enough in his gut. And I know people probably

1014
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: say that's not true, but I think he I think

1015
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: he sees what's going on. I think he's embarrassed by

1016
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: what happened, you know, in the off season. And I

1017
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: think that it would have said that. And if we

1018
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: hadn't pulled up in the parking lot yesterday and you

1019
00:47:55,120 --> 00:48:01,479
Speaker 1: saw the jokermobile, but the job, he's a car. Here's Paul.

1020
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you this though, I'll tell you this

1021
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: though he I think there's a lot I think this

1022
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: would be the chip on his shoulder. I think I

1023
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: think he'll be one of these guys when we get

1024
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: done in twenty five days talking about this camp and

1025
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: we won't put this thing to bed and I and

1026
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on record. I think he's gonna have

1027
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: a really good camp. And if running straight ahead means anything,

1028
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: he was running really hard last week outside at the start,

1029
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: I mean really hard. Yeah. Yeah, Now, I didn't see

1030
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: a lot of cutting going on. I think there's something

1031
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: about him. If he's ready. We don't anticipate in any suspension, right,

1032
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't haven't heard anything about that. No,

1033
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: it could be a big big deal if if that

1034
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: did happen, because then you're talking about if he Yeah,

1035
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: well no, I'm guaranteeing he's gonna have a good year.

1036
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: And if he gets suspended, then I look like a jack,

1037
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: you know what. Yeah, well, if he gets I mean,

1038
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: they usually don't suspend you for stupidity maybe, you know.

1039
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: I think if they would have done it, they would

1040
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: have done it by now. Now we've seen some suspensions

1041
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: right before the season started. Remember always when we get

1042
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: the waiver wired, it's like, ah, earlier are eight games in? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1043
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: we'll see on that. Okay, we got a couple more minutes.

1044
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: Press conference is gonna get rolling here just in a

1045
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: few minutes. Jerry Stephen, Jason Garrett. I would imagine all

1046
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: the principles here. Let's touch on Dak real quick, because

1047
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: we've talked about the guys he's gonna be throwing too.

1048
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: Is it. What's the challenge? It seems like a big

1049
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: challenge for him or a big opportunity how you look

1050
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: at it. Big season for him. He wants to improve

1051
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: his own game, his footwork, accuracy, all those things, but

1052
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,479
Speaker 1: he's also get on gotta get on the same page

1053
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: with these new guys he's try. It's kind of a

1054
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: double edged sword for him going into his third season. Guys,

1055
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: this is uh, you know, I've said it many times.

1056
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: I mean, he's no longer young quarterback anymore. As far

1057
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: as what guys are looking at him. Um, I think

1058
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: they made a decision between him and Dez and then

1059
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: they picked him. Um. I don't know if Witten's decision

1060
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: had anything to do with him, but they made it

1061
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: clear Dak Prescott is their quarterback. They're putting their eggs

1062
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: in his basket, and so they're making it friendly for

1063
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: him and all this stuff, and it's time for him

1064
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: to go make the place. I mean, this is it.

1065
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: He is not a no more grace period. You're the guy.

1066
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: You gotta go lead the team. Mickey loves that term.

1067
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: All he's got to do is play like he did

1068
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: the first eight games this season with Zeke on the field,

1069
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: and everybody forgets that. Yeah, but it's awfully good the

1070
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: first eight games, right. But we said this when he

1071
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: was a rookie. These guys come in the league and

1072
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: they take the league by storm. Are you gonna be

1073
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: Robert Griffin and Colin Kaepernick over here? Are you're gonna

1074
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: take it to another level and be better? And like

1075
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson because they're trying to figure out Russell Wilson,

1076
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: it's too as well, and they can they figured other

1077
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: guys out. I think they figured out that last year,

1078
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: I really do. I think they said, we're taking you're

1079
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: not getting any easy throws. We're not you're not giving

1080
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: you beasily and I give you got beat this over

1081
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: the top with Dez and he's gonna have to do that,

1082
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: I think. And I think, you know, Dez is not

1083
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: here because I think they felt like they could bring

1084
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: in guys that are on the same page with him

1085
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: more than he does. Were for some reason, they just

1086
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: I don't think they any problems off the field, but

1087
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: on the field they didn't seem to match. I think

1088
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: the X factor and all that is Michael Gallop. Okay, yeah,

1089
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: pretty well. Could they need guys that could separate. They

1090
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: do need guys that could say its big enough. Yeah.

1091
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: If they find guys that could separate, that will help

1092
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott again, get Cole Beasley going again. That's that's

1093
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: to me, that's gonna be the key the easy throws.

1094
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: But get Michael Gallup and those guys. You guys find

1095
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: guys that separate that then they get it done. Yeah,

1096
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: and well that's true. And we we've watched Gallup in

1097
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: the offseason workouts, Mick, you and I. He shows flashes

1098
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: of a pretty explosive guy on the outside that can

1099
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: get open. And he kind of reminds me of Antonio

1100
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: Bryan a little bit the way he runs. You know

1101
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: what caught my attention. We were on the plane and

1102
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: I walked by him and he had stood up, and

1103
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't realize he was that big.

1104
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: Yeah he is. I mean, what do they listen him

1105
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: at six six foot? Yeah, he's six foot what is it? Nick?

1106
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: I used to know the measurements right up. All right,

1107
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: that's pretty close. They're pretty good about that. Yeah, I

1108
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: just he was he seemed bigger when he wasn't out

1109
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: on the field with all the other guys. Maybe guys

1110
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: a good separate give him. Those guys have helped Dak

1111
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: And you know what, we don't seem to be in

1112
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: a hurry here. Well it's it's past eleven Pacific and

1113
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: we're still rolling. But no, I'm saying they're they're still conditioning.

1114
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: They are. Yeah, what does that mean? That means I

1115
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: don't think the press conference starts. Yeah, that it's gonna

1116
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: be at least fifteen minutes. Okay, so you guys keep

1117
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: going so we can make up for our fifteen minutes?

1118
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: Right's nick going? You think you guys want to ask

1119
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett, Jerry Jones at this press conference? What would

1120
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: you like to know about this team as they head

1121
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: into what seventeen I think it's sixteen practices over the

1122
00:52:58,280 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: next three weeks out here? I would like to know.

1123
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: This is gonna sound really strange because I I you

1124
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: know there Stephen Jones likes to talk about the talent

1125
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: acquisition business. You got that from Parcels I wonder if

1126
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: they're really monitoring the situation with Earl Thomas. I wonder

1127
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: if they're looking at that and saying, is that something, Mickey?

1128
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: You think? Is that a back burner? Is that even

1129
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: not a possibility? Should Brian shut up even talking about it?

1130
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: But no, I think they keep their I think they

1131
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: keep their eye on it. But I think what everybody

1132
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: forgets is everybody's looking at it and go, yeah, you

1133
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: give him a second round pick, give them the third

1134
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: round pick. Do you want to give yeah, him fourteen

1135
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: million dollars a year. I'm gonna try for three years

1136
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 1: and guarantee them thirty million of it. I'm gonna try,

1137
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna try and do what I did with

1138
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: the quarterback in Minnesota. I'm gonna give him a three

1139
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: year deal at thirteen million dollars and guarantee the whole contract.

1140
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna But do you want to do that? Yeah?

1141
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,959
Speaker 1: I do. With somebody that's that old. I'm not worried.

1142
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 1: I think he's playing it. I think he still plays

1143
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: at a high level. I think he can help. I

1144
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: think he's physical note back there that he could still

1145
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: help in the in the running game stuff. I just

1146
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: like the fact that this is my this is my argument, Nikki.

1147
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: When Shawn Lee goes out the defense, I don't think

1148
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: they have anybody that holds that defense together. And I

1149
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: think that I think Earl Thomas can hold this defense

1150
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: together if something happens to Shawn Lee, and I think

1151
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: he could give you help in the middle of the defense.

1152
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: It's like I say, if you get improvement. Now, we

1153
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen to defensive tackle, but

1154
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 1: you look at the good defenses. You know, Mike Linebacker

1155
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: could be, Jalen Smith could be, Vandersch could get a

1156
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: good thing there. If you have a real, true free safety,

1157
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 1: and if you pair him with Jeff Heath, you allow

1158
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: you to do some things with Jeff Heath if you

1159
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: want to do him, because Jeff Jeff He's shown he

1160
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 1: can make He's capable of making plays. But I feel

1161
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: like though that if when you do lose Shawn Lee,

1162
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: you don't have somebody that kind of keeps the defense

1163
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: on track. And I'm willing to take a shot at

1164
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: a veteran player that I think still has some elite

1165
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: skill to his game, and I'm gonna pay him. I'm

1166
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: gonna pay him for three years until I can find

1167
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: a better solution for that, and and and then who

1168
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 1: are you willing to forfeit to put that money towards

1169
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: him compared to somebody else. I don't know that's going

1170
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: to need to be paid. I don't know the next year. Yeah,

1171
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: I don't know the total cap situation. But I got

1172
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 1: my I'm I'm looking at I don't know. I think

1173
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: that if if Lawrence plays well enough, I think that

1174
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 1: they will try their very best to sign him. Okay,

1175
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: and I think you gotta sign Dak. I now, you gotta.

1176
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: Then you gotta give you gotta Dak one more year? Right?

1177
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: Do you got him on his fourth year? So right

1178
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: after this sea? Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. I

1179
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: And then Zeke, Yeah, I'm not, I'm not. I don't

1180
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: think I'm looking at Zeke as a long term guy here,

1181
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: because this is how I look at Zeke. You got

1182
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: him for the fifth year option, right, Yeah, correct about that?

1183
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: But that cat that caught, right, But then you pay

1184
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: him that and then if you want to franchise him

1185
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: and then you could say move on. I understand that,

1186
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: but those are probably fourteen fifteen million dollars contracts for

1187
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: one year. I think that the way that you if

1188
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: it's the market, we'll see what the market ends up

1189
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: to being with the running back. But I am trying

1190
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: right now. If I'm Jason Garrett, I am trying right

1191
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 1: now to win football games, and I think the best

1192
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: way to do that is to get players that I

1193
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: know I can rely on back there, that I can

1194
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: know that I could put my I could hang my

1195
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: hat on Earl Thomas and say, Okay, he's gonna solidify

1196
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: my defense. He's gonna help him. Sean Lee, you know,

1197
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: de Marcus Lawrence. Give me as many of those guys

1198
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: that have the ability to turn games around, then why

1199
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: do you think Seattle's reticent on giving him? I think

1200
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: fourteen million dollars a year. I think John. I think

1201
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: John wants to And I haven't talked to John Snyder

1202
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: and John is a dear friend of mine, but I

1203
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: haven't talked to him about this, and he won't talk

1204
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: to me about Earl Thomas. He won't do it. But

1205
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: if if I had to, I think John wants to

1206
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,479
Speaker 1: retool his team. I think he's I think he's willing

1207
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: to move on from the team as it is. You know,

1208
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: make some roster moves. His draft was kind of a

1209
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: little bit different, and he took some guys that I

1210
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have taken myself where he took him. But

1211
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: my knowing John, he's just gonna remake his defense is

1212
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: what he's gonna try and do. And he, you know,

1213
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: he's comfortable. I don't me personally, I don't think that.

1214
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: I don't think Earl Thomas sits out games. Earl Thomas

1215
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: is not going to sit out. No, he's not. So

1216
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,479
Speaker 1: so John John's saying, Okay, if you sit out games,

1217
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: you're leaving money on the table. Johnson Johnson. Now John's

1218
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: gonna make a determination does he want a second or

1219
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,919
Speaker 1: third round pick in this draft or does he want

1220
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: one in two thousand and twenty that's where he had

1221
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: because he's gonna get a third round pick of Earl

1222
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: Thomas takes off and walks. So I just think that

1223
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: to me, if you're a team that's trying to do

1224
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: things and be proactive, I'm I'm I'm making that call.

1225
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: What do you feel about? How do you feel about?

1226
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: And I respect what you're saying, I really really do. Yeah,

1227
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: And there's always the financial commonents everything in the NFL.

1228
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: How do you feel about what they have right now

1229
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: at safety? Because we talked about the corners, but that's

1230
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: we haven't really talked about Xavier Woods, who's probably right

1231
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: now penciledana is that free safety? He is? And then

1232
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: you've got Cavon Frasier, I think entering his third year.

1233
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: I think that's the one position where you have really

1234
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: the most questions. Well, they don't. I don't think they

1235
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: have after Xavier Woods as a free safety. I don't

1236
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: think there's anybody behind him. Yeah, that's that you would say,

1237
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: let's go. Yeah, I mean he has played both. You'd

1238
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: rather him. They like Heath to play from depth because

1239
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: that way he can use what we saw on our

1240
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: you know, on our tail of the tape where he

1241
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: could see range run. That's where that's when, Yeah, when

1242
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: you play him down and in all Actually, yeah, now

1243
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: you trust Jeff Heath to go make a game saving play.

1244
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if you necessarily trust Xavier Woods to

1245
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: go make a game saving play. Coaches will tell you

1246
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: on this team, the safeties are interchangeable. Is that fair?

1247
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: Because like you guys are saying, different safeties have different

1248
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: skill sets where you're comfortable playing them. So are they

1249
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,479
Speaker 1: all interchangable? Well, it depends on how you're interchanging. Because

1250
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: if you talk to Chris Richard, he's telling you that

1251
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: Woods is a single safety hide that can go sideline

1252
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: to sideline. So he's got that image in his mind

1253
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: right now, right that this kid can do that. Now,

1254
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: how well we're gonna find out here real soon. Yeah,

1255
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: he's It's there's no question he's you know, he was

1256
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: thrown out there in the Nickels situation and showed up

1257
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: pretty well. But I I say, I'm I'm trying to say,

1258
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to if it meant for me to to

1259
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: solidify the spot, that's what I'm trying to do with

1260
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: with by signing Earl Thomas. I think trading for I

1261
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: think it Xavier Woods may make the decision for the

1262
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: Cowboys Bingo. I think you're onto something there because if

1263
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: he plays well, then they're sitting there going, okay, we

1264
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: can They can't. They can't have questions at at three

1265
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: of the spots, like they can't have questions They know

1266
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath can play well, but they can't have questions

1267
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: at the back of at at the starting spot. Next

1268
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: to him and the other three that you can't. And

1269
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: I said it earlier. You know, we're gonna learn a

1270
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: lot about Huff here. You know, Huff is now your question.

1271
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: More question, Huff is your fourth safety on the roster

1272
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: because you don't want Cavan Frasier playing single safety high, No,

1273
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: you don't. He's got to be closer to the line

1274
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. Yeah, and special teams absolutely, that's what he is.

1275
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: He's a special teams player. Let's say they let's focus

1276
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: right now there ahead. Yeah, yeah, I'm not this is

1277
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: my opinion on that. This is not I'm not taking

1278
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: Will mcclay's opinion or Jerry Jones's opinion or Stephen Jones

1279
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: on on the situation. If it was me and I

1280
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: was in that personnel office, I would argue for a

1281
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: reason why, and then Will Will could say if Brian stops,

1282
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: sit down, you know, get away, you know. But I

1283
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: would if if I was Uh, if I was Alex Loomis,

1284
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: or if I was Henry Schroka or you know, or

1285
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: Judd Garrett, whoever, I would I would say, why are

1286
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: we not thinking about this? Why are we not? And

1287
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: to Mickey's point, it could be we could get two

1288
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: weeks into this thing and they say, you know what,

1289
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: there's not a good solution behind there's we got one

1290
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: safety and three others that can't really play, So maybe

1291
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: we need to go do something to make him. I

1292
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: just think everybody needs to remember there's there's there's two

1293
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: parts to this Oh Thomas thing. I know John, I

1294
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: know the way John thinks. But I again, he will

1295
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: not talk to me about Earl Thomas. So if they

1296
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: if they agree on compensation, then do the Cowboys get

1297
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 1: permission to talk to his agent. That's the only way

1298
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: I would do this deal. And I think I think

1299
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: we were close because I don't want a guy on

1300
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: a one year deal, right, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

1301
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're the only way you make this trade

1302
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: is if you say we want to talk now, we'll

1303
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: see how much Earl Thomas really wants to play in Dallas.

1304
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: If Earl Thomas doesn't want to play and he tries

1305
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: to hold yet for fifteen million dollars a year, then

1306
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 1: you could say, no, we're not gonna go play with

1307
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Yeah go play, Yeah, go play with the Raiders,

1308
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: or go play in Seattle for twelve million dollars a

1309
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: year now, Stephen reference this. I think on draft weekend,

1310
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: a plan B in house. You know, folks on the

1311
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: guys they have in house. Yeah, they have guys on

1312
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: this roster with flexibility to play corner or safety. You

1313
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: please don't take Cheeto, Who's gonna be a good corner

1314
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: and playing at safety? And I know you're tired of

1315
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: moving Byron Jones around? Yes, look who who out there? Yeah,

1316
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: Cheeto's my corner, Yeah, left corner. I'm not gonna worry

1317
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: about safety if if if I'm getting beat because of

1318
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: my safety, then I got I got some other problems

1319
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 1: probably going on. Right. No one's ever not gone to

1320
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: a super Bowl and said, you know, if I just

1321
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: had a better safety, yeah, I'd have gone to the

1322
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: super Bowl. I think that there's some things I think

1323
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 1: he can help. I think it's a bonus in this

1324
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: situation with the young secondary. If this was a veteran secondary,

1325
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't argue this point for Earl Thomas. I wouldn't

1326
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: do that. I mean, I love Earl Thomas, but I

1327
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: think he could really help. He could help develop Cheeto.

1328
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: He can maybe help Byron Jones develop, you know, Byron.

1329
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: He could. He could kind of keep an eye on

1330
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 1: Byron Jones and say, Okay, I'm gonna this kid over here,

1331
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: Cheeto can play. I'm gonna kind of keep an eye

1332
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: keep you know, keep him out of trouble, you know,

1333
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: in the Nickel stuff. You know. I just going back

1334
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: and watching him play. He still plays at a high level.

1335
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: He still plays if he if he was like Eric

1336
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: Reid and Kenny Vaccaro and those guys that the Cowboys

1337
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: aren't looking at that don't play at a high level,

1338
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 1: then I, you know, I would I would not do this.

1339
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: I think Byron can play corner I assistently at a

1340
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: high level. I mean he's done it. We've seen him

1341
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 1: play it. I think Mickey's right. I think there's a

1342
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: lot more questions there. I like the fact of how

1343
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: aggressive he is. I like the length. I like his ability,

1344
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 1: the athletic ability to turn in run. I think the

1345
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: fact that he's playing the right corner will help him

1346
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: because most teams in the league are right handed, meaning

1347
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: they attack the left corner. So if Byron can kind

1348
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: of we've seen Byron, I mean we did tail the

1349
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: tape again. We saw a Byron cover a big tight

1350
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: end down on the goal line, fourth down play, be physical,

1351
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: get inside, keep from the interset, you know, keep from

1352
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 1: getting interference. That's yeah, Byron Jones is capable of covering,

1353
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: but it's a matter of staying with guys. And that's

1354
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: what's going to be the trick. And I think the

1355
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: way they're playing it now, they'll give them an opportunity

1356
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: to be in man but kind of looking right back

1357
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 1: in right, not playing catch up with your back to

1358
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: the quarterback right. And that's kind of what he's been

1359
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: teaching out here. So again, that's what we're here for.

1360
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna see they think they know, but they don't know. Well,

1361
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: the things tend to take care of themselves. You know,

1362
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: you'll you'll see very quickly if there is a depth

1363
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: problem at defensive tackle. You'll see if there's a problem

1364
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: at safety, and you'll see if there's not a capable

1365
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver of being one of the five or six right,

1366
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: you'll see that. And you'll get to see who the

1367
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks are too. You know, you'll get to see

1368
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: that little competition as well. We're still vamping Cowboys State

1369
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: of the Union training camp, Press Commerce coming up momentarily.

1370
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: Kent's gonna tell me to get off the air here

1371
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: when it's time. Guys, give me, give me a couple

1372
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: names when they get out to practice tomorrow. And like

1373
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: you said, Micky won't be in pads, but maybe when

1374
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: they get to pads, give me a couple of names

1375
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: of guys you're gonna be watching out there. Johad Ward

1376
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,919
Speaker 1: right from the start, tell me why because they don't

1377
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 1: have another guy I think that can play that position

1378
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: of David Irving's not there, or play it the way

1379
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: that Marinelli wants it played. I mean, who else would

1380
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 1: move in there? You know you're gonna take one of

1381
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: the defensive ends and move into the three technique. MALIEK.

1382
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: Collins not playing yet. He played it well and he

1383
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: can maybe slide over there. But then, okay, now who's

1384
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: playing the nose? So to me, jehad Ward has a

1385
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 1: lot to say with basically what goes on on that

1386
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: defensive line. So to me, I want to see him

1387
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: with pads on Rod Marinelli Saturday, a week from Saturday,

1388
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 1: at the Saturday Saturday, we get the pads. Rod Marinelli

1389
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 1: told us he made a statement quote a statement in

1390
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: the offseason workouts. No pads with what he did out there.

1391
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: He also says pads are everything. So I say that

1392
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 1: that'll be my number one guy right now. Who you got,

1393
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: broad man? You know what I'm gonna focus on, because

1394
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: I think they're going to rely on a couple of

1395
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: rookies to start. I think they're I think they're gonna

1396
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: you know, they want they would like Michael Gallop to

1397
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: step up and bet Terrence Williams out of a job.

1398
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 1: I think they want the left guard to be Connor Williams.

1399
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: You know they drafted him to be. I'm gonna I'm

1400
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 1: interested to see the OTAs in minicamp. Those reps did

1401
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 1: not look too big for those guys at the time.

1402
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 1: Now we've had some time, we've had some conditioning work,

1403
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 1: we've had some you know, guys to mature a little bit.

1404
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm interested to see these young, these rookie guys

1405
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: and go go down the list, who who is the

1406
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: guy of the rookies, of the drafted rookies that the

1407
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: game is not too big, a big four and they

1408
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: could come out here and they function and it's a

1409
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: great pool. Blocked by Connor Williams down on the goal line,

1410
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: Michael gallop with a clutch catch on the two minute drill.

1411
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: You know, uh, you know, I'm interested to see Armstrong.

1412
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: Oh nice, he gets around, you know, he's in he's

1413
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 1: in there working against Tyrn Smith, or he beats Tyrn Smith,

1414
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 1: or he beats Lyle Collins for a sack. You know.

1415
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: That's I'm focusing on those rookie guys because I think

1416
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: they're they're looking at those kids and they're saying and that.

1417
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: And we during the draft show, we were talking about

1418
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 1: maybe they'll trade these picks, maybe they won't take all

1419
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: these picks. They made all these picks for a reason,

1420
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 1: you know, and they got players. They went out and

1421
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 1: got players, and so if you're gonna do that, you

1422
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 1: better go play them. You better figure it out. And

1423
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 1: that's where I think that to me, And it doesn't

1424
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 1: really answer your question because it's such a big you know,

1425
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: big Oh yeah, Brian, look at rookie's good for you. Look.

1426
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: But I think deep down in their heart, they're looking

1427
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 1: at these kids and they're saying, Okay, maybe this guy

1428
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 1: can help us. Maybe this guy can help us here.

1429
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: Maybe the guy can help us here. It's less of

1430
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: a veteran football team. This year, first five draft choices

1431
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: for sure they need guess right, there's two in the

1432
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 1: fourth Yeah yeah, yeah, that to me. And if you're

1433
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 1: not gonna count them, but hey, can can Mike White

1434
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 1: beat out Cooper Rush who was outstanding here last year?

1435
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush basically in the game Cooper Rush put put

1436
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore into coaching if you if you think about it,

1437
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: mean because he went from being the backup to being

1438
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: you know, practice squad. And then some of these young guys.

1439
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be September ninth, but how about

1440
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 1: by the bye week, maybe they move into and start

1441
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 1: taking some serious reps or or starting and a couple

1442
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: of them could do it. I don't think in this

1443
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: coverage we're gonna have we're gonna sugarcoat it, because if

1444
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: kids are playing well, I always say they're playing well.

1445
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 1: If they're playing bad, we're gonna say they're playing bad.

1446
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 1: But I'm really interested to see if these these rookies,

1447
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 1: like Mickey said, the four or five six of them

1448
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: can step in and immediately help this team and then

1449
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: are part of are part of the defense, are part

1450
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: of offense, part of special teams, whatever that takes. When

1451
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 1: they're when you're scouting rookies like this when the pads

1452
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 1: come on, do you have to give them a little

1453
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 1: longer leash and evaluations because this is the first time

1454
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 1: going through this, or do you have to see something

1455
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 1: I don't want? Hey, you know what if if if

1456
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:37,600
Speaker 1: if Layton Vanderish is playing scrape linebacker and making and

1457
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 1: tackling or wrapping up a Zeka Ellt on the edge,

1458
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 1: give me as many of those reps as you can.

1459
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 1: You know, give me that. But I don't think these kids.

1460
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 1: I think these all of these kids played big time

1461
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: football and so they understand, Hey, we're gonna line up

1462
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 1: and play and line up and go. And I'm I'm

1463
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: okay with that. I'm okay. I'm watching Alan Hearns. I'm

1464
01:09:55,200 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 1: watching him. Can he take ownership of that extra sive spot?

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01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 1: And maybe he doesn't have to be Dez Bryant, but

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01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: can he Can he do most of what Dez did

1467
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 1: production wise last year? If they can get that out

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01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 1: of him, with the running game, with the way they

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01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: want to play football offensively, I think they'll be in

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01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 1: pretty good shape. And he's got a major opportunity to

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01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:21,759
Speaker 1: step in and be a guy for Dak that teams

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01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 1: have to account for at least and maybe that See,

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01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 1: that's that's another part of this where we've discussed like

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01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: do they need a number one receiver? I say yes,

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01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 1: But there's a second part of it. I think there's

1476
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 1: times where Dak needed guys to separate last year the

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01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: other guys and there was guys were singled up and

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01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't always pretty and he didn't have anywhere to

1479
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 1: go with the football. Sometimes Zeke's will help with the separation. Yeah,

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01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 1: who were they scared of? Last year? They could sink back?

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01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: Who were they scared of? Yeah? Defensive scared of Alfred Morris,

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01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 1: nice running back, but they weren't scared of him. So

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01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 1: who was gonna beat you Dak and Dez? Yeah? Do

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01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: you think we'll see? And I know it's maybe a

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01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 1: talking point, maybe not, But are we going to see

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01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: something different from Scott Linahan or are we gonna go

1487
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 1: back to Mickey what you were talking about with a

1488
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen attack where it's built on a

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01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 1: running game, it's built on moving uh dack around, it's

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01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 1: built on that or is that or we are we

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01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 1: gonna see? I'm sure that you know, you know vic

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01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 1: and Ventura wants more creativity. Yeah, well, I mean that's

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01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I mean, Vici Ventura is saying, well, well,

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01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 1: who brought us creativity? Creativity? Get you know here? You are, Brian,

1495
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 1: you're bitching about the basilely not getting open, But how

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01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 1: about some creativity? You know? I think that's where I

1497
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 1: think that's where you know again. And I'm gonna sit

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01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: there and say, oh, scheme specific they're doing this, this

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01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: and that. Do you think we're gonna see any adjustments?

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01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 1: And adjust it's a bad word because it's like it's

1501
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 1: it's like it's like a game time thing. But are

1502
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 1: we gonna see some things differently that we haven't seen

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01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 1: in the last two years with a team that predominantly

1504
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 1: ran the foot think the fact that Tavon Austin's here

1505
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 1: is a sign that they may try to do some

1506
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 1: things differently, or at least after the fact that they move.

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01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: Possibly Beasley gets snaps outside, you get a bigger guy

1508
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: inside with Hearns, and you got Zeke that you can

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01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 1: throw the ball too. More of that would be good,

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01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 1: And you know, is that creative? No Emmett Smith caught

1511
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 1: forty fifty sixty balls this season while he was running

1512
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 1: and winning rushing championships. So now you've got something. The

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01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 1: linebackers are going to be more occupied by Zeke's presence

1514
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 1: because now when you when you when you do the

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01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 1: play naked bootleg, the linebackers not running out there immediately right,

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Speaker 1: gotta go, all right, press confers coming up. Shortly finished

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Speaker 1: that thought. Tomorrow a