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Speaker 1: The MAVs go on the road beat the Minnesota Timberwolves

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Speaker 1: Luke and Kyrie's took turns getting buckets to steal the game.

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Speaker 1: Game one Finals Luca thirty three points, eight assist, six rebounds,

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Speaker 1: is on Friday. Jim, I'm gonna go to you first,

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Speaker 5: There, O Joe, I mean, listen, I told you I

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Speaker 1: I was surprised how well the Mavericks rebounded the ball,

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Speaker 1: And look they wonder the man with six or twenty

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Speaker 2: They made six to six threes tonight.

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Speaker 1: We know they're capable of making somewhere between ten and fifteen.

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Speaker 1: That means in order for you to keep what you

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Speaker 1: Timber Warves, can you shoot eighteen for forty nine? Can

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Speaker 2: I don't believe that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, but what we can also do is they

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Speaker 5: Why continue to do the same thing and want to

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Speaker 2: Areas because this is who they are.

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Speaker 1: How do I ask a bear not to take a

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Speaker 1: y'all seven foot Rudy go seven plus foot Rudy seven

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Speaker 5: I have a question. Yes, cat Cat is not one dimensional.

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Speaker 5: He chooses to play one dimensional. He chooses to play

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Speaker 5: if you want to get your assent home early, keep

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Speaker 5: doing what you've been doing. Obviously, Hell, the masive Watson

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Speaker 2: So what are they you said it?

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Speaker 1: How do you tell a bear not the shit in

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Speaker 2: Goddamnit. Do you take that ship? You're gonna fall into it.

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Speaker 1: You over here shooting fifty damn threes, you're not gonna win.

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Speaker 2: You're shooting eighteen for forty nine. You're not gonna win

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Speaker 1: Because even though they look like they shot worse, they

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Speaker 1: the free throw line. That's that's where the game is.

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Speaker 1: You shot fifty threes, but eighty nine shots in total.

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Speaker 1: And you're the and you're the giant. You got the gianty.

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Speaker 2: They deserve that. They deserve that ass whip it. I'm sorry, but.

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Speaker 1: Look, I love I love Cat's game because I think

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Speaker 1: the ball, he can put the ball on the floor. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he can play with his back to the basket. But

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Speaker 1: Kat don't like contact, that physicality. Everybody's not built like that.

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Speaker 1: Just because you seven foot tall, it's like Winby, You're

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Speaker 1: like man. Women, you selling foot tall. Womby ain't trying

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Speaker 1: to Wimby, ain't trying to bang like that. Guys don't

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Speaker 2: So and it looks better.

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Speaker 1: Man me, Hey, if I'm selling foot tall and I'm

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Speaker 1: pulling up from three, oh, choke, that looks a lot

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Speaker 1: better than me banging turn around, throw a little salt

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Speaker 2: That looks better.

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Speaker 1: And you know how we love aesthetics and because I

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Speaker 1: ain't gonna I ain't gonna make a I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: But let me rain their three on your head. Let

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Speaker 5: Hold on, man, some of these some of these big

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Speaker 5: men have footwork. There's artwork and a massive piece. When

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Speaker 5: you have a big man down there, I'm playing the

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Speaker 5: post that has footwork and.

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Speaker 4: Ability to do big need to make moves.

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Speaker 5: They start, start with the basic fundamentals and go from there.

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Speaker 5: Tim Duncan, David Robinson that the game that was artwork

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Speaker 2: But there are art but they don't play like that.

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Speaker 1: How many how many threes that you think, Elijah on Patrick,

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Speaker 4: But now that's that's that's the point I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Kat has the ability to do that. If they if

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Speaker 5: you already know they waiting on you to play on

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Speaker 2: You told off the.

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Speaker 1: Block, you told me, this is what you told me

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Speaker 1: when we talk about football.

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Speaker 2: Don't let the defense. Don't you let them you dictate?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, don't let them dictate. They dictate, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, they're not they letting you do what you want

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Speaker 1: to do. Trying to stop you. You said, he don't

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Speaker 4: See see what I mean? Yes, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Who what? Who? Six ten? Or I mean six six

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Speaker 1: Either way, both of them are considered little dudes compared

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Speaker 1: to two sixty five at six ten right on on

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Speaker 1: and both of them hurt the thing? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So you see them.

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Speaker 1: Saying so whether he's only six six two ten banging,

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Speaker 1: gotta be Ray Lewis. Everybody ain't got to beat Michael

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Speaker 1: Strahan to drop that ham on your head. Right ractually

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Speaker 1: when you're that's not your game, that's not that's not

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Speaker 2: Gil. You know where cat want to be?

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Speaker 1: What kind of hands you're talking about? The black ones

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Speaker 1: You're talking about them red over there. I don't know

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Speaker 1: fire we'll see. Y'all don't know nothing about them bull

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Speaker 1: they're called a bull lands. They're about this big. They'll

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so you.

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Speaker 1: They're going against the black ants, the little black women,

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Speaker 1: one defense in the regular season, anchored by the defensive

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Speaker 1: Miami excuse me, then let the Dallas Mavericks almost you

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Speaker 1: fifty percent from the floor tonight. I'm surprised, Yes, I

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Speaker 1: am surprised that the ease in which Dallas got what

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Speaker 1: But and that's the thing, because what do we do

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Speaker 1: Rudy can't cover that much guard you know, hey, Rudy good.

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Speaker 2: I mean, hey, defensive player to your four times.

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Speaker 1: Only two other guys Ben Watterson to Ken Bay has

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Speaker 1: Player of the Year, But he ain't covering that kind

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Speaker 1: of ground, right And everybody out there, with the exception

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Speaker 1: Kyrie can do it. PJ can do it. You know,

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Speaker 1: ex them he came in to do it, Green can

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Speaker 1: do it. So for the most part, unless unless you

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Speaker 1: one game they are they one Sunday, turn around and

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Speaker 1: play Dallas. Dallas came ready to play. That's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: but don't be satisfied. If I'm j kidd, I'm like, look, guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm proud of you guys. We came in here and

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Speaker 1: did what we needed to do. But I like Sweet Steaks,

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Speaker 1: I want to get it all. See, Oh, Joe, I

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Speaker 1: played Mega Million, I play power Ball, Fantasy five, Cashbow,

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Speaker 2: Three, I play a ball man. You agreed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they ain't tell me I couldn't play. But one

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get Sweet Staks. I'm trying to win

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Speaker 1: power Ball and Mega Million and Fantasy Fire.

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Speaker 5: Don't don't get don't get too excited. I don't care

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Speaker 5: how many games you play. I don't care if you

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Speaker 5: means of the Powerball. I'm telling you how the series

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Speaker 5: is gonna go. The Wolves gave the mass this game tonight.

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Speaker 5: Huh's not gonna happen. It's going to seven. And I'm

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Speaker 5: telling you, man, them boys gonna win. They gonna win

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Speaker 1: You know what the flaw is the flaw is I

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Speaker 1: to be able to play in this series like that.

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Speaker 2: They might have to bench Rudy. They might think about it.

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Speaker 1: Because offensively he's not a factor, and obviously defensively he's

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Speaker 1: he can't switch on the guys and he's just sitting

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Speaker 1: back in dead drop, that that that's the irrelevant in

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Speaker 2: They don't have Yo Kichen this series. They have guard

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Speaker 1: So uh, it looked like they have a bad lineup

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Speaker 2: Like he.

436
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Speaker 1: Uh oh, you talk about you talk about slow motion.

437
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna call cal leaders, calling the

438
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 1: time out. One time he shot at three, I was like, oh,

439
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 1: he about to put it up. Things just.

440
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 2: You can't. You can't do three of those. They're leaving

441
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 2: you open for a reason, right.

442
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 1: So the fact that they got two guys that can't

443
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,360
Speaker 1: put the ball in the basket like that, that kind

444
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 1: of helps Dallas out a little bit, so he's gonna

445
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 1: have to tighten up his his lineup and be more

446
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: offensively minded, uh, knowing that that's all Dallas is thinking

447
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: about too, right, all right? Last night, the Celtics beat

448
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: the Pacers in overtime. The Pacers committed twenty two turnovers,

449
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 1: and those miscues led to thirty two Boston points. Tyrese

450
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 1: Haliburton turned the ball over three times into the including

451
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Speaker 1: three excuse me, including two and key moments dribbled the

452
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: ball off his foot when Indyanna lead by three in regulation,

453
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: with twenty seven and a half seconds of regulation being

454
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 1: lost the ball out of bounds with one on two

455
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: remaining in overtime. The costless turnover of the game came

456
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: with eight point five seconds left in the fourth quarter

457
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 1: in down up one seventeen one fourteen, and nim Hard

458
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: threw a lazy pass. Pascal Siakam couldn't handle it. Jylen

459
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 1: Brown gets his hand on it, but Fiakam ends up

460
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: touching the ball before it goes out of bounds.

461
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,719
Speaker 2: And then the dumb dumb all time, dumb dumb thing

462
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 2: in the world.

463
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Speaker 1: You're up three and you let it got shooter three

464
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out, Gail. Maybe you can

465
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: help me understand why the hell everybody standing agains side

466
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: the three point line. I almost staying outside the three

467
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: point line. And tell you the shooter two. You know

468
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: that that's taxt And it started off with Highley taking

469
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: the ball, defending the ball, right, you're supposed to defend

470
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: baseline side first, but thank you, you're supposed to block

471
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 1: baseline off, you know, give you the one, two, three

472
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: Mississippi count and then jump on the ball and be

473
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 1: rivy act right, So do throw it. They're gonna either

474
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: throw forward layup or they're.

475
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: Gonna throw it back to half court.

476
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: So the fact that they got a corner pass off,

477
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: knowing that that's probably been in their playbook before, and

478
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: you let it happen, which is a tough shot, right, that's.

479
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: Not Clay or Curry or Kevin Durant.

480
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: It is Brown and he's a three point shooter, but

481
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: he's not deadly from that.

482
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 2: So he just made a great shot. You can't be.

483
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: Mad at that. You gotta be mad at the fact

484
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: that your out of bounds play that lead to the turnover.

485
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: It was a horrible design, right, Yes, it wasn't enough

486
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: space for anybody. Right, you didn't call the time out,

487
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,959
Speaker 1: You didn't advance the ball, right, so you can advance

488
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: the ball now you can throw it in the back

489
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: court right right. You handicap yourself to the space. And

490
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: how you guys designed that play which was horrible. So

491
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: you know you gotta blame the coach and the players

492
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: for not recognizing just call the time out.

493
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: Gil. They let him get a three off up three.

494
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Speaker 1: I don't care if he can I don't care if

495
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: he can't make it. I don't care if that's Rudy Gobert.

496
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm not letting you shoot the three. How what are

497
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: you gonna do stand behind the three point line for

498
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 1: a stiff to take the two? It didn't make it

499
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: a make it a free throw game. I'm not letting

500
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: you shoot a three.

501
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 5: Somebody, somebody, somebody gonna drive and kick it out somebody.

502
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 2: I'm not letting get off no three, Gill. I ain't

503
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: let you get off no three.

504
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: Now now, looking at this free throws, I would be

505
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: upset now at Holly for not actually going to the

506
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: ball himself.

507
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 2: Pushed everybody. I'll go for the ball. You're the only

508
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: one that shot at least three free throws.

509
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to that's gonna be in Siakam's first free

510
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 1: throws of the game. And he's not very good free

511
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: throw shooter to begin with the fact that he ran

512
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, but see that's a Gil Gil but

513
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: that But see, I want to show you that I'm

514
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: not afraid of the moment. So I'm gonna go run

515
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 1: to the ball. You know, damn well, you about to

516
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: clink him anyway.

517
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: Man, I'm not passing an I am captain now I

518
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 2: am not.

519
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: Yes, but Gil, but but oh, Joe, and you saw

520
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: this last night. They made so many mistakes. I'm trying

521
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: to Okay, they up by five. Why the hell is

522
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: Haliburton pushing the ball up the court so fast?

523
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: I mean, what are you trying to do? You can time.

524
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: He rushes the ball up the court and dribbles the

525
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:46,959
Speaker 2: ball off his damn foot. Why why did no? He's up?

526
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 2: They excuse me? He up five? He gets a semi

527
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: transition step back three, Gil, really in that moment? Oh,

528
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 2: and everybody talking about, well he can hit that shot,

529
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: that's not the point.

530
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: Well, the clock is your friend, Hey, the clock is

531
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: your friend, Milk.

532
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 2: That you don't need to take a shot with twelve

533
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 2: seconds on the clock. What I'm gonna use you?

534
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: I think you said, Uh, how do you tell a

535
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: bear not that shit in the woods?

536
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: That's all fust the ball up. It takes some weird

537
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: that's all they know. So, you know, time and possession

538
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 2: is a thing that they're they're not used to.

539
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: They're used to just playing up and down basketball, tigging

540
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: shots that they feel is their shot, and that's what

541
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: they o. Joe, what do we say, oh, Joe, in

542
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: a situation, we know, if we got the lead, we

543
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: ain't throwing out of bounds.

544
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 4: Oh no, you can't. You gotta slide, you gotta get out.

545
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: But that's what in that situation you have to know. Okay,

546
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: what's more important a first down or stopping the clock?

547
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 4: Stopping that clock.

548
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 2: So if I got a lead, see I got the

549
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: lead in the game.

550
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: Now if I if I don't have the league, now,

551
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: I would go out of bounds because the first down

552
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 1: is unimportant. I need time getting the first down, and

553
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 1: I lose fourteen fifteen, sixteen seconds, I've done my team

554
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: with disservice. Right on the other side, if we behind down.

555
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 2: That first down.

556
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: I just save my team sixteen seconds and plus we

557
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: got another down. That's what Hamley Burton, That's what guys

558
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: got to do to be able to think in the moment.

559
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: Is that, Yes, I know we played with pace all

560
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 1: the time. Make a miss, we'll take it off the

561
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: rim or we'll take it out of that. But we're

562
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: gonna push tempo. I get that, But not in that moment, Gil,

563
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: Not in that moment.

564
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 5: I mean, and speak and talk and talk about that moment.

565
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 5: I think the game was so close all the way

566
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 5: down to the wire, obviously having to go to overtime. Listen,

567
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 5: you take away some damn twenty two turnovers and minimize

568
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 5: the turnovers, the Paces win that game.

569
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm thinking about you.

570
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 5: Take away the twenty two turnovers and minimize that. Think

571
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,239
Speaker 5: about the points you would have had had you not

572
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 5: turned the ball over that god damn much. Yeah, and

573
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 5: you were still in the game with that many tollovers

574
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 5: and had the opportunity to go to overtime and still

575
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 5: had a chance to win.

576
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: It was their game to lose, and they lost it.

577
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: The reason that that team plays like that ONK is

578
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: they don't have a go to guy, right they don't

579
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: when you're up five.

580
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 4: Wait, hey, Halle Burdon not the go to guy wing guard.

581
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: He's the one that gives the ball to the go

582
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: to guy. Right.

583
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: So when you think about the Jalen Brunsons and the

584
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: Tatums and the Browns, when they're up five, the the

585
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: balls going to them, go to the going to them,

586
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: and they're gonna waste the clock and then they're gonna

587
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,239
Speaker 1: do their things. Halle is used to just pacing doing this,

588
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: so he's not used to just sitting there trying to

589
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: control the game.

590
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 2: I don't even think he can dribble that good.

591
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: No, he's not a ball yeah right, he can trouble fast, right,

592
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: but I don't think he has handles enough for someone

593
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: to pick him up full court or half court and

594
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: he has to waste time, right, That is a skill

595
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: on his own.

596
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: That's a Chris Paul skill. That's a Kyrie.

597
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: You have to be very skilled with dribbling to just

598
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,479
Speaker 1: just sit there in motion. Yes, that's not his skill.

599
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: That's not his tap run. So it makes sense that

600
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: he's rushing and trying to get his playoff because he's

601
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: not comfortable just wasting fourteen seconds while somebody trying to

602
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: steal the ball. Right, This was a game that they're

603
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: supposed to win. This was, yes, that they needed to

604
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: win because the seven players that played their top seven

605
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: played amazing basketball. The double figure well double figures, played well,

606
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: shot well.

607
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: Three guys in the double double doubles. You're not gonna

608
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 2: play that great as a.

609
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: Team again, No, so we can take away the turners

610
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: put him at twelve. Are you still gonna shoot that

611
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: kind of percentage across the board?

612
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: Right?

613
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: How they might fuck it up that ten points next game,

614
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: that's a that's my point.

615
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: Boys, that's a loss. Right. So the fact that you

616
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: guys played offensively great.

617
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: And didn't succeed that takes away and especially the other

618
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: team didn't play well Jason Tatum them didn't shoot the

619
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: ball well, So it kind of is discouraging. You're trying

620
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, if we don't don't turn the

621
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: ball over. But we're like, now, coach, I shot the

622
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: hell out of the ball though.

623
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it ain't gonna be my birthday tomorrow. Yeah.

624
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: It's not often that we can see somebody smashing defeat

625
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: from the jaws of victory, and that's what they did.

626
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: They snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

627
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: They had the game right, they had the game ball

628
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: in hand under mint with a minute to go, and

629
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: Hadley dribbles it off his foot the possession before that,

630
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: he takes a step back three.

631
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: With twelve seconds left on the clock.

632
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, what are you doing? But see, that's

633
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: the thing. See everybody that's basketball IQ. I'm not saying

634
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: he doesn't know the game, but can you the really

635
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: great players, regardless of the sport, can think under pressure

636
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: and understand it's not about how we normally play, because

637
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: what's important.

638
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 2: Now is tick tick tick tick tick. I'm like, bro,

639
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: why would you why would you do that? Yeah?

640
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 4: And that is that not Also on the coaches as well.

641
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: He's supposed to be the coach on the floor. That's

642
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: what your point guard is. That's why we give him

643
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: the balls.

644
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 5: I mean, especially in a situation like that, I would

645
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 5: assume I would hope of coaches letting no kill the clock,

646
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 5: kill the clock as much as they scream from the sideline,

647
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 5: that that would be one you would want to scream

648
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 5: out during a time like that, especially in that scenario.

649
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 4: Uncircumstance.

650
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: Who now with Rick Carlisle. Rick Carlos is one of

651
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: those I call them goofy coaches. They they had the

652
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: goofy coach style where they want their defense in front

653
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: of them, which means their offense is away from them, right.

654
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: It's it's it's this weird thing that I don't understand as.

655
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Speaker 2: As a coach.

656
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: Why would you want your your defense near you when

657
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: you're usually behind the five so they can't They can

658
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: hear you, but they can't see what you're talking about.

659
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: Right when they're.

660
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: Pushing the ball up the court, they literally can't hear

661
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: or see you, right, especially the guy who has the ball,

662
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: So that means he has to turn and see what

663
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: you're talking about. If you flip it the other way

664
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: around and think offense, that means it's away from you.

665
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 2: But they can see.

666
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: All five is looking at you, so you can direct

667
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: the defense right coming to you, and your player right

668
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: is looking at you, so if he says hold.

669
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: It, then you know I do it.

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00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: I don't know why those defensive coaches want their defense

671
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: near them when it's ineffective because I can't I can't

672
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: turn and see what you're talking about. Dude, I can

673
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: hear you say something, but I can't see you. So

674
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: the fact that I can't see you is the problem.

675
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: Switch it up, think offense. I want my offense to

676
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 1: see me, which means your defense sees you too. So

677
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: so basically, when Holly's coming down the court, he don't

678
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: see what coach is talking about. He's just playing the

679
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: game and playoff basketball. And then a young guy, he

680
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: don't have that Jason Kidd type of mentality yet that's

681
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 1: something he has to grow into, right.

682
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 2: And you notice though, Joe.

683
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: Normally people think the quarterback is an extension of the

684
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 1: head coach. But we saw in two Super Bowls ago

685
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: with McKinnon, Jared McKinnon, he got the ball, what did

686
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: he do? He go down at the one yard line.

687
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: So now guess what.

688
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 2: Tig tik t t t t tic tic tic tick

689
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 2: tick tick we down.

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00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna ti hey take our time out, kick the

691
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: with four sakers left, four of the clock.

692
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 2: Now we kick it off to you.

693
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: See, that's thinking a lot of times, and we see

694
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: more and more of that now because hold on, if

695
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 1: I score a touchdown, how many times we see somebody

696
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: score touchdown on Joe and all of a sudden they

697
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: get it they kicked the field goal.

698
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:15,959
Speaker 2: Now we tied.

699
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: Where if you'd just taken the meet, then a random

700
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: clock off, you kick the field goal. Now you go

701
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: home with the win. But no, you want to be

702
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 1: a hero. You want everybody I got be a touchdown

703
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: in the game, and they know you got a touchdown,

704
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,959
Speaker 1: but you ain't celebrating. Yeah, and that's what we're saying.

705
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: Halley needs to understand the moment. At that moment, you

706
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: didn't need a quick three at that moment. Slow the

707
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: pace down. You're going so fast you dribble the ball

708
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: right off your foot, and then you let and then

709
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: you let, then you let holiday turn you and you

710
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: dribble the ball right out of bout And then I

711
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: can tell you, so the road team picks which way

712
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: they go. That's how I know it's Carlisle's way of coaching. Right,

713
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: watch tween Jason Kidd goes up to to Indy. I mean,

714
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: when when Boston goes there, they're gonna have the style

715
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: I said.

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00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: Right, just just think about it. Let's say let's say

717
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 2: you're coaching, We're looking at it like this.

718
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: And I'm coming up the court right, Yeah, because you

719
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: can see the defense you can run a play which

720
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: none of the defensive players are saying.

721
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: So Mike coach used to this means one four.

722
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: Flat right, So he'll call a play and then and

723
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: then he'll do this, and I'm like, all right, I'll

724
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: fake look and go right now. Think about Lucas coming

725
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: at me. I'm playing defense and he wants Luca to

726
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: be double. Luca can't see him, so boom, we get

727
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: to double them right now, he gots to come off.

728
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: He can say push it to the left. It's just

729
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: a more effective way of coaching. And I think everybody's

730
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: so stuck in the old ways on real life. Man,

731
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: these arenas are so loud in the playoffs you cannot hear.

732
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: So oh yeah, for sure you need.

733
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: To go visual, right like I think on the sideline,

734
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: your your sideline moves with you, right, yeah right.

735
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 2: So like but gil to what you're talking about, O Joe,

736
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: you could have tested this.

737
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: You know, on special teams, we always set the return

738
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: to our bench because if we send it to the

739
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: other bitch, they're gonna tell them come return. They sent

740
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: it up to this side. We don't know that the

741
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: return is coming. We ain't gonna tell you. We gonna

742
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: set the return the port return more than than not.

743
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: When you set the return, you set it to your

744
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: bench because you don't want their bench to let their team.

745
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: Know that return.

746
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: Get why Get why they set the return. So it's

747
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: the same thing with Gilla saying gives said No, you

748
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: want your office so you can see me, because if hey,

749
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm dripping the ball like this, yeah, I'm looking back,

750
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: do gona swipe me and go down to lay it

751
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: up and leave me alone?

752
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: No, that's but two.

753
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they blew They blew it. They blew that well,

754
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: O Joe, you because you don't. I'm not saying, Look,

755
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: that's only one game, but that one game gives you a.

756
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 2: Lot of confidence. Yeah, a lot of confidence.

757
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: Now they only shot six free throws. Boston shot what

758
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: thirty thirty one, thirty two? They they killed him on

759
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: the glass and then look at them hard They put

760
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: the ball in them hard hands twice because he was

761
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: being guarded by Big Al and he came through.

762
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: He no, he's he was nice. Bro. Come on now

763
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 2: they say, hey, bro, take him home. Man. He whoop woop,

764
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: three legs, step back right right in the Big Al space.

765
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: Did it again?

766
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my goodness, they got some confidence

767
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: in this young man because he had the advantage. You

768
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: got a guy that's a big Hey, he's looking. He

769
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: just don't want you to blow by him. So he's

770
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: gonna give you space. He can't hug up because if

771
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: he hugs up, he gonna go buy him boo boo

772
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: Ooh yeah, but hey, hopefully they learn from this. They

773
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: gotta understand. You gotta understand situations. That's what we call

774
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: situation of football. That situational basketball. Understand the situation WI

775
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: you're in a play accordingly.

776
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: And now it's time. First Secord of the night, news cap, NewsCap.

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00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: The twenty twenty four All NBA teams were now All

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00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: NBA First Team Jannis Untatkunpo, Luka, Doncic, Shae gil Just,

779
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 1: Alexander Nikolai Nikolai. That's Nicola yok Nicola Jokic, Jason Tatum,

780
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: first Team All NBA.

781
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 2: Luka.

782
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: By earning first team All the NBA is not eligible

783
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: this summer for a super mic contract.

784
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: O Jo check this out.

785
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: How much five years, three hundred and forty six million dollars.

786
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 4: Hey, but that sounds that sounds like my number. That

787
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 4: sounds like my numbers.

788
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 2: Damn that's I like that, Ojo.

789
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 4: That's good numbers.

790
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: That het it seventy almost seventy sixty nine million a year.

791
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 2: And listen, Luka twenty five vote Joe. I just want

792
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: you to know that I'm just.

793
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 4: Gonna through here, gonna hit I mean, he's gonna hit

794
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 4: him cross the head again. Man, for sure, you're gonna

795
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 4: hit across. He's gonna hit him cross the head again.

796
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 5: And when I think about it, when I think about it,

797
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 5: why and you and Gil can explain to me why

798
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 5: in the hell do certain super Max deals? Why are

799
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 5: they different? Like why is his number three forty seven?

800
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 5: And I saw other players that are that are all.

801
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: NBA is not the same all NBA. You make the

802
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: all defensive MVPs. That increased, That increases your value. Also

803
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: also years, yes, so also years. So depending on how

804
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: many years you came in, depending on what year you

805
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 1: came into.

806
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: The league, you can unlock a little bit more money.

807
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: So like when someone signs an extension, it's usually twelve

808
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: point five percent on top of that, so the amount

809
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: of years that you can sign those So let's say

810
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: a guy who just came in the league. So Lucas

811
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: on his what years is five?

812
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right? This year five? So like somebody like LaMelo

813
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 2: Ball that's behind.

814
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: Him max, his supermax will only be like two seventeen,

815
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: right right, Jason Tatum signs, his supermax is going to

816
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: be more than this one.

817
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 4: Wait, whoa, wha, whoa, whoa whoa.

818
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 5: Now you confuse me. Now, why did Jason Tatum get

819
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 5: more than LaMelo Ball?

820
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: Because he's been in the year, he's been in a

821
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: he been in the league longer. Okay, So here I

822
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 2: go with my con So.

823
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 4: All LaMelo has to do is just wait another year

824
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 4: and do the supermax.

825
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 2: He just he just signed what Gill has said, check

826
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 2: this out.

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00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: Let me expend it like this, Gil, Jaylen Hollo and

828
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: Man and Tyreez Halliburton also their own max contracts extended

829
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: in the rookie season because they made All NBA. They

830
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: get an additional forty one million dollars. So what you

831
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: can do if you make the All if you make

832
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: an All NBA team, If I'm not mistaken, I think

833
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: it's in the word first two or the first three

834
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: years gial of that contract you get the I.

835
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: Don't even know. I don't even understand the new I

836
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: just know All NBA win. It is my money. Yeah.

837
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: So because because they got max contracts, they unlocked a

838
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: forty one million dollar option. Somebody who was that last year?

839
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: Oh John?

840
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: Remember John got suspended and he didn't make the All

841
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: NBA So he lost out on that forty million dollar

842
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: extra money that he could have got by not making

843
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: one of the top three All NBA teams, by Ant

844
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: Man making it, by Tyris Halliburton making it, they get

845
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: to unlock that. So now Luca, because he's been an

846
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: All NBA player, he'd already added the extent because he

847
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: made it again.

848
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: Now he's at the super supermax.

849
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 4: Oh cause he made it twice.

850
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: Yes, so yeah max and okay, So like when my

851
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 1: contractors coming up, the max deal for the max players

852
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: was seventy nine million, right, So that was so Kobe,

853
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: Vince Carter, all of them their max deals with seventy nine.

854
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: By the time I came into the NBA. When I

855
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 2: signed my deal, I signed for sixty five.

856
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 1: Right.

857
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 2: Look how false? Look how close I am behind them.

858
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: But my max if I was a MAX player at

859
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: the time, I would have been eighty six, So I

860
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: would have been more than what Kobe and them were

861
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,479
Speaker 1: because my max went higher than when it was their turn.

862
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 2: It went to ninety six, then one hundred and something.

863
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: So how many years so like somebody like KG, nobody

864
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: would have me like if okay, So let's say Bron,

865
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: Bron has been in league twenty years, his max, his

866
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: real max, if he was signing.

867
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 2: Real max deals, he would be actually in a four

868
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: hundred problem.

869
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: His grandfather did some ship that don't even exists, right,

870
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: they see the fingers would help them. And plus Gil,

871
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: you get to be on the max contract if you

872
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: make all rookie teams. So you're already starting out with accolades. Yes,

873
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, not only am I all rookie,

874
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: I've made all the NBA.

875
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: So now I'm on a Supermax.

876
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: So Luca messed riding in the next two years he signed,

877
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: He's gonna sign this Supermax. Guess what happens if you

878
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: make all of he made one of the first three

879
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 1: all NBA teams the next two years.

880
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 2: You know the funny The funny part is Oljollis.

881
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 4: It's gonna go It's gonna.

882
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: Go up again. Yeah, it's about to be four hundred million.

883
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: When it's up right, even if he doesn't sign a

884
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: super Max and it's just a regular Max, it's it's

885
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: twelve point five percent on top of what over what

886
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: is maxfield? Yes, so if that last year is sixty

887
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: five million, the beginning of that first year, that new

888
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: contract starts off one point five increase, right, Yes, but

889
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: if he's a Supermax ship, he might be at five hundred. Luca, So,

890
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: Luca and Jason Loose Tatum would be the first. Because

891
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: he's signing the first super Max, he would probably be

892
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: the first one to hit five hundred. Jason Tatum would

893
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: hit five hundred. It's gonna be one of those two

894
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: that hit five hundred million.

895
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 4: So can a man just wait instead of taking the

896
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 4: Supermax deal?

897
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 2: Now?

898
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 4: Can he just wait and make it next year?

899
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: Lash? He just he just he just signed.

900
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: He signed the Max contract off his rookie deal, which

901
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: he shipped, so he should have waited.

902
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: Oh so it's too late, man, You tell us somebody

903
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 2: to wait. That's a hundred that's one hundred fifty million

904
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 2: they got wait for me. I'm twenty I'm twenty one

905
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: year though, Oh Joe, that's why, right?

906
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: Like so like okay, So like, because there's a twelve

907
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,479
Speaker 1: point five increase off of your last number.

908
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 2: Then about you're a rookie and I'm giving you a

909
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: max zeal.

910
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: It's not max if you op out of it and

911
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: be a free agent and sign a deal.

912
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: Right, A lot of people opt out.

913
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: Of their deal and then just sign a whole new

914
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: deal to get rid of that, just that that increase.

915
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: But see here's the thing, though, Gil, you gotta wait

916
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: all the way to the end of your contract before

917
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: you do that.

918
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 2: So that means he'd had another two years.

919
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: I don't know very many guys, Oh yo, go wait

920
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: I got one hundred and fifty million right now, or

921
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: our wait two years, opt out and be able to

922
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: signe because.

923
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 2: What they can do the home the team that you're with,

924
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 2: they can offer you that extra year.

925
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: So if he were to leave and go somewhere, they

926
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: can off him four where the home team could offer

927
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: you that fifth year at that seventy million dollars.

928
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: What ant Man is gonna do. He's made it. So

929
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 2: guess what when ant Man come up again? It is

930
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: he when he's uh, he had probably.

931
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: Well he was at he's at two sixteen, so he'll

932
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: probably be at like three, twenty five, three fifty, which

933
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: Luca means, like, that's what I said. It's Luca, It's

934
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: Luca and Jason Tatum. That's gonna be that's gonna be

935
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: hitting them right now. Are they gonna be old, They're

936
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: gonna be They're gonna be hitting them. Yeah, because both

937
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: of those guys howls with JT JT. What twenty five,

938
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: twenty six, Luca just turned twenty five. Now, he just

939
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 1: turned so him and him and Luca the same age,

940
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: run the same age. Yet, so it's them too. So

941
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: so in three years if Lucas still probably in three years,

942
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: Luca will be eligible again for seventy five, probably for eighty,

943
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 1: maybe close to five hundred million. I know, j oh, hey,

944
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: don't I know what you're saying. I'm going to the

945
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: gym right after this. The Hawk.

946
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 4: I'm calling Brian, Hey, listen.

947
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 5: I I always, I always understood the numbers when it

948
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 5: came to obviously football, understand the numbers when it comes

949
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 5: to baseball. But the way the way the NBA works

950
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 5: as far as years and and supermax Supermax Max deal

951
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 5: based on based on whether you make the NBA NBA

952
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 5: team or not.

953
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 4: Now that's crazy. That's crazy.

954
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 5: So how come Lebron hasn't hasn't gotten a deal like that?

955
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 5: Is he perfectly taking a hometown discount?

956
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 2: No, he's but no, at his age, you can't. You

957
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: can't give him that deal now because remember.

958
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: Gill, those guys getting those deals, they was giving them

959
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: those old guys and that thing was obsolete.

960
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 2: So after you get a certain age, you can't get

961
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 2: that super max deal. What is it? Thirty thirty four

962
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 2: to thirty five? Gill? What is it? You can get

963
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 2: a super max.

964
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: But he always, I mean from the time I can remember,

965
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: he always only did three year, four year deals.

966
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: He never yet max.

967
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: He never He never wanted to stay in a contract

968
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: that long, that long. He wanted to keep hitting them, right,

969
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: So he never wanted to be in a four to

970
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: five year deal.

971
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 5: So he's the only person that can do that though,

972
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 5: right can the other players opt out and say listen,

973
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 5: I only want.

974
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: To go out here.

975
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: He wanted, He didn't want he didn't want to be

976
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: tied up. He Lebron signs three year deals because he

977
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: wants to keep the pressure on. You. See, if if

978
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: you lock me into a five year deal, where you

979
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: going Oh, you've been threatened all you want to You're

980
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: not going nowhere. But see that three year deal, and

981
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: it's normally two plus an option option. So now that

982
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: third year is his option.

983
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 2: This said.

984
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 4: Can everybody do that?

985
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: Though?

986
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 4: Does everybody?

987
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: You're not making the money. See Lebron got money off

988
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: the field. See Lebron doing fifty sixty million off the

989
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: off the court. Okay, he makes more off the court

990
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: than he does on the court. SuperMac A SuperMac contract,

991
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: if it was, was designed to allow teams to resign

992
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: players with eight or nine years of service with that team,

993
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 1: or a maximum of five years, at amount to thirty

994
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: five percent of the salary cap, subject to an eight

995
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: percent annually. So that's to make sure. Look, I want

996
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: to keep my guy. I don't want I don't want

997
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: I don't want Jason Tatum to leave Boston. I don't

998
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: want Luca to lee Dallas. So now I can give

999
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: him a supermax which is designed to keep it. So

1000
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 1: just imagine if in today's time, a Jordan, a Kobe,

1001
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: a Lebron, Well they're gonna be billionaires in under ten years.

1002
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 1: Just don't contracts.

1003
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean these guys, these guys are gonna hit billions.

1004
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 6: Yes.

1005
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: Now, I asked someone in football. I said, with with

1006
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 1: y'all arenas, with y'all arenas, If y'all fought like the

1007
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: NBA players, y'all would be billionaires quick. And here's what

1008
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: this is how I viewed it. You guys played what

1009
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: one game a week? Yes, let me practice. You practice Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

1010
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: Now take away no, those three practice because you don't

1011
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: get paid for them.

1012
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 2: Ships right, you don't get paid for practice.

1013
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: So what if you just practiced one time a week

1014
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 1: and had two games a week, think about your contract

1015
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: because you get paid for the game itself. I know

1016
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 1: what you're gonna say, Well, we ain't gonna be prepared.

1017
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 1: That means that you're gonna be broke up. You ain't

1018
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,479
Speaker 1: gonna play. You ain't gonna play for a couple of years.

1019
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got you gotta you gotta heal up. You

1020
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 4: gotta heal up after these games.

1021
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 2: You said, you're telling.

1022
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: Them if you play on the Monday and a Thursday,

1023
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: you only got one practice, that's not You're not getting

1024
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: beat up in practice? What?

1025
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 4: No, No, you get beat up in that game.

1026
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 2: I thought practice is where you get. You get like

1027
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: that it used to be.

1028
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: It used to be they beat hell out of your practice.

1029
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: They don't do that anymore. Now they try to preserve you.

1030
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: These new school coaches. They it's more walk through. They

1031
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: don't really put the pads on like we once did

1032
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: when I got in the league. Oh we thirded that thing.

1033
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 1: Look nine o seven, they put mos on the ground.

1034
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: It wasn't that that. Oh show you like y'all, y'all

1035
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 2: touch about the heels and I can't. Oh no, they

1036
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 2: put on you. Yes, I mean that right there.

1037
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 4: You come up and you come up and somebody the

1038
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 4: wrong way and it's a fight.

1039
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, fight.

1040
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 5: So you know, we we got doing that two hand

1041
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 5: touch and making sure the body was in position to

1042
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 5: make the tackle as opposed as opposed a thud.

1043
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: Now seven o seven, gill In seven on seven, Oh Joe,

1044
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: run your hand across that middle and see what happened

1045
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 1: seven o seven.

1046
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, like we NBA put we don't. But

1047
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 2: but Adam Naversons said, we don't. We're not practicing. We

1048
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 2: gonna see you in the game, sir.

1049
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: Right. So when you're thinking about the NFL, that arena,

1050
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: y'all arenas is so big. Imagine the money they keeping

1051
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,439
Speaker 1: from you, Like, this is how much money the NBA

1052
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: owners is making when there's a lockout and we say, hey, let.

1053
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: Us see your books. Oh, I say again, how much

1054
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 2: you want? You said, Oh no, no, what I tell you, Joe.

1055
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: You see the difference.

1056
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: The difference is is that because they've gotten guaranteed money

1057
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: for let's just say, for the sake of argument, three

1058
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: to four years, they'll say, you know what, We're gonna

1059
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: shut it down Baseball, shut everything down.

1060
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 2: No playoffs, no World Series, no nothing. Now look at

1061
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 2: the money that they show.

1062
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: Hell tany ten years, seven hundred million dollars. Mike Trout

1063
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: gonna make five.

1064
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 2: Hundred, bro.

1065
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: But see the difference is the difference is that the

1066
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,919
Speaker 1: owners know the fans love football so much as long

1067
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: as he has a cowboy jersey on, they give a

1068
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: damn if it's Ceedee Lamb or little or Baby Lamb.

1069
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: All they care about is cowboy that's staring the helmet

1070
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: or the Pittsburgh stealing logo. They don't give a damn

1071
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: who hit it, because they've struck twice and they saw

1072
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: what happened.

1073
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 2: Fans came to see the replacement players. But then let them.

1074
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: So then let them. The thing is this, it's a

1075
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: business for them too. Yes, it's a business for them too.

1076
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: And they're gonna lose way more money than.

1077
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 2: You are gonna lose.

1078
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: They won't because you know why, Gil their money is

1079
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 1: guaranteed because ESPN Fox are gonna still broadcast those games.

1080
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: You See. The thing is if if the network said no,

1081
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: unless we get the real players, we're not, then then

1082
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: and only.

1083
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 2: Then will the owners at us.

1084
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: But see, the thing is, see Jared Jones can go

1085
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: He's supposed to make a payment that's fifteen million dollars

1086
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: at the end of the month. He could go to

1087
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: his banker and say, you know what, this thing's gonna

1088
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 1: stretch a little longer. Okay, here, go ahead and charge

1089
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: me another four or five percent interest, and I take

1090
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: care of you. You not gonna be able to go

1091
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: to your banker. He gonna say, either you pay or

1092
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: you will get your ass out of this house. That's

1093
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: the difference. The problem is heads got to get cut off.

1094
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: See the parliam is y'all got too many people voting.

1095
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: Y'all got y'all got fifty five players, right, Yeah, vote

1096
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: everybody vote no.

1097
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 2: They don't.

1098
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,720
Speaker 1: No, they don't, not when you're not, when you trying

1099
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: to change every time, get us say so so that

1100
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: the star players only get to vote, because I know

1101
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: the star players are not thinking money, they're thinking future.

1102
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: So if a dude need is rent paid, he going

1103
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: with the owners. I need to lock out the end.

1104
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: And that's half the damn team. I don't need them voting.

1105
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 2: I need the people make it.

1106
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: Gill, who's thinking about, well, if we hold out, we

1107
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: can possibly get this.

1108
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 2: Kill the lockout right, just wan, y'all should be waking,

1109
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 2: making him way more than us.

1110
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 1: I know. But o cho, you want me to tell him,

1111
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 1: but you're gonna tell him. How many NFL players live

1112
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: in check the check because they got full calls. Three

1113
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: girls put up and they bought just bought Mama CREB

1114
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: for two million dollars.

1115
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, that's the problem.

1116
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 4: Hey, they run through it fast.

1117
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 2: That money. See, they only get paid. They only get paid.

1118
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 1: We only get paid September, October, November, December, January.

1119
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 2: And if you make the playoffs.

1120
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: Once you make the playoffs, you don't get your salary,

1121
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: you get the playoff pool. So you might be making

1122
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 1: you know, you might be making one hundred and fifty

1123
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: thousand a check. Now, all of a sudden, that thing's

1124
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: fifty thousand a check. And that's why they don't get

1125
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: a vote. That's what I'm saying. So Lad's gonna be

1126
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: under the bridge and to the season starting, goddamn, because.

1127
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 2: We got yeah, I know how to do this off.

1128
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: I ain't got to I ain't got time to hear

1129
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 1: you whine. Oh my girl's gonna leave eat men, and

1130
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: oh and she better pop only fans. She better pop

1131
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: it on only fans, because I saw herself.

1132
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 2: Big business in the NFL player girlfriend on only fans.

1133
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 2: Three dollars for that.

1134
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: That's what the thing I said. You know you got

1135
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: to tell the guys said, Look, because let me tell

1136
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: you what the owners did. The owners when the players,

1137
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: the players had years left. Yeah, and they they extended

1138
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: the deal. Once they extended the deal, Roger Goodell, go

1139
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: to the networks, we got ten years of the labor piece.

1140
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 2: We want to redo what we want to redo that.

1141
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 2: We want to extend the deal.

1142
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: So guess what they did. ESPN, Fox, CBS, NBC redid

1143
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: the deal. Hey, Amazon say, hey, k can we get in? Yeah,

1144
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: how about this here we're gonna take Thursday night football

1145
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: and we'll give it to you Amazon, but it's gonna

1146
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: cost you a bill.

1147
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, you hey, you know, hey, hey, you know what.

1148
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: We want to be a network. We want to be

1149
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: taken serious, so we know we need live events.

1150
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 2: What y'all thank you? Roger, Well you know the direct

1151
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 2: TV about the end of what y'all looking like? We got? Okay,

1152
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: you're in guess what?

1153
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 6: Oh?

1154
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, I heard y'all got some

1155
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 2: prispals games coming on? Joe? Can we get in Netflix? Really?

1156
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:27,439
Speaker 2: Y'all are streaming, y'all.

1157
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: Y'all want to y'all like nat you how about we

1158
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: let y'all stream be three games on kriminal and this

1159
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: is a lockout yet.

1160
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 4: In and and the funny thing.

1161
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 5: The funny thing about it when when you think about

1162
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 5: what with these companies are spending. If Netflix is spending

1163
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 5: a billion, how much you think they're gonna make? How

1164
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 5: much you think they I think I think people people

1165
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 5: need to understand that if they spending the billion, and

1166
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 5: to us, the casual regular person, like with regular regular

1167
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 5: person like we are, if they spending a billion, what

1168
00:58:58,840 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 5: you think they're finna make?

1169
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 2: Yo? Show.

1170
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: But the casual fan will empathize with the billionaire more

1171
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: than the millionaire. That's the problem because if the salary

1172
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: cap is two hundred and fifty five million, that's the cat. Well,

1173
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: each thirty two teams each get three hundred million dollars

1174
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: from the network deal. Okay, okay, you got naming right

1175
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: for your stadium, you got local TV, you got confession,

1176
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: you got interest until you got tickets. You cat merchant

1177
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: market you got you've got merchandise. Yeah, and that's outside

1178
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: of your three hundred million. Now that I let you

1179
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: know how they're they're they're siding with the billionaire and

1180
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: complaining to the millionaire.

1181
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 2: But that's the point of this, right because the owners

1182
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 2: don't have a face. The players do.

1183
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: And this is why I say this is when you

1184
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: lock out, they can use replacement. But I can tell

1185
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: you who didn't pay for replacement. Netflix, Amazon, they didn't

1186
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: pay for replacements.

1187
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 4: That's a good way.

1188
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: I like that.

1189
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 4: Guess what I like where you going.

1190
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: Let those companies bully them so they're gonna come, what's

1191
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 1: going on.

1192
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 2: We didn't pay for these dudes.

1193
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: We paid for Patrick Mahomes and Kelsey and his little

1194
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: girlfriend singing and death.

1195
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 2: That's what we paid for.

1196
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: So if you don't get them back on the field,

1197
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna cut our deal. That makes Roda Goodell change

1198
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: his spirit right now. I like that if he knows

1199
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: y'all know it before him.

1200
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 2: Oh, y'all, I like. I love the NFL everything. A

1201
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: lot of what I have with what we do we.

1202
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: Talk about on Nightcap when we don't have Gil is

1203
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: through the NFL. But you know what you're here that

1204
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: when you hear the NFL talk who are their partners?

1205
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: They never say the players. They say Fox, they say CBS,

1206
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: they say NBC, they say ESPN. They're gonna line up

1207
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:03,439
Speaker 1: together because they guess what, they can wait you out?

1208
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: How long unless you're one of these top guys and

1209
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: you got forty million banked up? How long do you

1210
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: think the average of those fifty three only about five

1211
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: on your team making real money?

1212
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 2: How long can they wait on Joe?

1213
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Parry Jones can wait for ten years and never

1214
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: play another game, and he gonna be worth fifteen.

1215
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 5: You got to think about it, Gil, the way the

1216
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 5: way NFL players spend, how many of how many of

1217
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 5: them can last without those checks coming in once the

1218
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 5: season rolls out.

1219
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: But I did not tell you. I don't give a

1220
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: fuck about those other forty. So you said five five votes,

1221
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

1222
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 2: I got five votes because we different, We different get there.

1223
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 4: You can't leave, you can't leave. You can't leave your

1224
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 4: homeboys out in the war and.

1225
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: Number fifteen, fourteen and thirteen wanting in the lockout so

1226
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: they can get paid. Guess who don't have a vote? Fifteen,

1227
01:01:54,920 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: fourteen and thirteen. We don't need your votes, brother, Me

1228
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: and Twina Karan were gonna do the voting here. Why

1229
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: do you think it's five hundred millions. There's people ain't

1230
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: getting mail. We don't know your address. Homeboy, You're gonna

1231
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: have to wait it out. Whatever you gotta do to survive,

1232
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: Please survive. And this is when the top five, this

1233
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: is when y'all become businessman. You know how many loans

1234
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: I gave out with a high ass percentage?

1235
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah for sure. Look for me. All I'm saying

1236
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 2: is like, hey, look, we need a million the end

1237
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 2: of the the end of the CB is coming up.

1238
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 1: Guys, for the next three years, I need you to

1239
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: be as conservative as possible.

1240
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 2: Please, no big purchases.

1241
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: Say, say, say, because this thing might go on for

1242
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: a year, for a year, and so I'm gonna need

1243
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: you guys to be banked up, because they say everybody,

1244
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: even the average, the average America, should have three months

1245
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: banked up. If you lose your job, you need to

1246
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: be able to survive for three months until you find

1247
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: a new job. Hopefully it comes sooner, but if it doesn't,

1248
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: you got three months. No, No, I don't man the

1249
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: average NFL playoff, Gil, No, bather me. They got three days,

1250
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: Oh joe, they got three days? About three months? Three days?

1251
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 2: Right now?

1252
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any sports today in today's time

1253
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: that cannot work for a year. It'd be so hard

1254
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: to recover from that, just as a league itself, because

1255
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: it's you miss a whole year. That means another sport

1256
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: is getting popular. That's a your fan base is going.

1257
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: So nothing ain't messing with Ain't nothing messing with the NFL.

1258
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: Why you think, Gil, we about to play games on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

1259
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: Ain't nothing mess up with the NFL. Gil, it's Fivedays.

1260
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: If you miss a whole year, there's the reason that.

1261
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 2: They working your lasses a little bit more.

1262
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 1: There's a reason they adding more because they getting more

1263
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: money working y'all more. Yes, But here's the thing. The

1264
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: only and look, the players are going, okay, look, I

1265
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:17,439
Speaker 1: ain't got no problem.

1266
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 2: Eighteen games.

1267
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: They want their about to play eighteen game. The players

1268
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: are gonna get compensated. But all I'm saying is, Gil,

1269
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: if you go back and study the history of the

1270
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 1: league and you look at eighty two, and you go

1271
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: back and look at eighty seven, eighty seven was the

1272
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 1: last strike. And I'm old enough to remember it because

1273
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 1: I was in college. Bro, when you go back and look,

1274
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: and I ain't gonna call nobody name, but when you

1275
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: go back and look at the name that crossed the

1276
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: picket line because they needed them pay checks, I'm talking

1277
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: about MVP Defensive Players of the Years. I ain't just

1278
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: talking about no no, no, no ranking ding guys. I'm

1279
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: talking go back and look it up, Chap and look

1280
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 1: at the guys, the first guys that started crossing the line,

1281
01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: and you're gonna think, oh, my goodness.

1282
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 2: And that's why I say I don't give them no votes.

1283
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 2: I don't listen when you're trying.

1284
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: To, oh, how you gonna go give an MVP of

1285
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: the League of Vote defense the player of the year

1286
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: of Vote. When you're trying to make a change, think

1287
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: about it. This change needs to be made if we

1288
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: can keep it the same. That means I'm a I'm

1289
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 1: a whole ground knowing you're gonna fall. So it's gonna

1290
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: always be against the player if they can't hold out,

1291
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna give you nothing.

1292
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 2: Knowing that you're gonna take it anyway.

1293
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm giving you crumb right about a bunch of dollars

1294
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: making five hundred million, and y'all talking about we out here,

1295
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: we're out here with the CTEs and all, y'all should

1296
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: be getting six hundred million dollar contract. The fact that

1297
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: I would have guaranteed let y'all know that. Y'all y'all,

1298
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Speaker 1: they know y'all gonna falter. I don't care if these

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01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: guys go homeless. Oh well, I'm doing I'm trying to

1300
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: get guaranteed contract. If your ass got to work at McDonald's, goddamnit,

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01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in there after we finished doing this line,

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01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:00,919
Speaker 1: I get a on your wash and meal.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to McDonald's. I might help you want your single

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01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 2: number one it's gonna be a bunch of them. I

1305
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 2: don't care, hey, part of the players, the.

1306
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: Player PBA, whatever that is, because I ain't trying to

1307
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: hear none of y'all argument. We're trying to get to

1308
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: a goal, and y'all slop cut the fact, Gil a Gil.

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01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: You ever saw this TV show Married with You or

1310
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: the sitcom Married with Children?

1311
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 2: Oh my favorite Charlie Sheen left? Did they cancel the

1312
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 2: show or did they bring afton? Cut you on? Don't

1313
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 2: tell me what these team?

1314
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 4: That was two and a half men.

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01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, excuse me, two and a half men? What they do? Joe?

1316
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 2: Did they cancel that show?

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01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 4: She left?

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01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 1: Or no?

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01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 4: It kept going.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying all of them leave, everybody go, but he

1321
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 2: with the Gill? That would be Gill.

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01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: That would be true if the fans, the fans are

1323
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: tied to the team, the players, Who the players come

1324
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 1: and go?

1325
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 2: Who they watching? If replacements they don't.

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01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: As long as I see a staring that helmet, he's

1327
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: a cowboy player who just won the championship Kansas Kansas City.

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01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: If all of them say we ain't coming and they

1329
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: bringing some replacements in, you think the TV deal that

1330
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 1: the people who pay I paid a billion dollars to.

1331
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 2: See Patrick Mahomes. I don't want to see his brother.

1332
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to see his brother out there's working

1333
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: throwing the football I paid for Patrick.

1334
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 2: He did. But the fans at home watching how many?

1335
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is.

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01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 1: How long before the fans themselves say this is not

1337
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 1: what we paid our tickets for. I didn't pay my

1338
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 1: tickets for replacement. You you you the suite cost me

1339
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: three hundred thousand, and these are not the players that

1340
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: I paid three hundred thousand. Fours what I'm saying so

1341
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,439
Speaker 1: you you can wait them out. You just the Gil

1342
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 1: just oh Joe.

1343
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 2: It's too many.

1344
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 4: It's too many.

1345
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 5: It's too many players. It's too many players. It would

1346
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 5: never work too may.

1347
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got on the squad?

1348
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 2: How much? How much? How much? Gill?

1349
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, Oh Joe, You tell

1350
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: Gill how long they've been playing the preseason games and

1351
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 1: you play the same price for a preseason game, then

1352
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: you do a regular season game, and half the time

1353
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: the guys that's gonna play in the regular season they playing,

1354
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: and the fans.

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01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 2: Still show up. Right.

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01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, see the see the owners know, they owners know

1357
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:37,759
Speaker 1: the fans are loyal to the team, not the players players.

1358
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 2: No, that No, that's what they make y'all believe h

1359
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 2: ain't don't believe. I feed it. Ain't don't believe.

1360
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: You know what for a few games, Gill, go back

1361
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 1: and study eighty seven and look at the guys that

1362
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 1: crossed the pickup, Gill. Everybody ain't making a hundred million.

1363
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: A guy that's making two hundred thousand, he ain't gonna

1364
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 1: be able to suit.

1365
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 4: Ye.

1366
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is these companies are paying billions

1367
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 1: for a certain product if the product is not just

1368
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,719
Speaker 1: like when the player. You think about this in the NBA,

1369
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 1: when the player gets hurt and he's missing games, who's

1370
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: the first one to start complaining?

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01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 2: Though? The fans, Hey, hey, hey, hey you got here.

1372
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 1: That's why MB got to bring your ass on our

1373
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: handb that we sold these We sold these playoff seats

1374
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: at a price that they came to see you. That's

1375
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, go back, do your research on

1376
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:36,759
Speaker 1: the lockout in twenty eleven, Right, yeah, fifty NBA players

1377
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 1: voted tally of them votes, I guarantee you it's gonna

1378
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 1: be about seventy five to one hundred missing them joker's

1379
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: vote only. But see, but see in our CBA, everybody

1380
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 1: gives them. Everybody gives a vote. Yo vote is the

1381
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 1: same as Patrick Mahomes and the guy that's on the

1382
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: practice squad. I mean, you got the guy that the

1383
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 1: fifty third guy. His vote matters just as much as

1384
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, just as much as Josh Allen.

1385
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 2: Here.

1386
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 1: You what you're saying, think about think about what I'm saying.

1387
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: There's four hundred and fifty players. They only when we

1388
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 1: turn them into Chris Paul only one hundred seventy only

1389
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 1: seventy five to one hundred was reported.

1390
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 2: He said, Hey, we couldn't reach arrest of these people.

1391
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: This is what we got though, right right, Football presidents

1392
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: show up when y'all turn them papers in and there's

1393
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 1: only three hundred, there's three hundred.

1394
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 2: We don't need the other seven hundred. We don't care

1395
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:35,799
Speaker 2: about those votes. Those votes go against the JAP, against

1396
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 2: the call. That is all I'm saying.

1397
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, it can be a rip jil because I wish,

1398
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 1: I wish we could be as unified as you got.

1399
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: Because what you're talking about is solidarity. What you're talking

1400
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:50,799
Speaker 1: about is unity and We've seen that from other sports leagues.

1401
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 1: We've seen that from the MLB, we've seen that from

1402
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: the NBA. We have yet to see that from the end.

1403
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: I don't It's not like I disagree with what you say,

1404
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: but oh, Joe and I we're talking about from experience,

1405
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 1: you know, and what we've seen is that we can't

1406
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 1: get that level of unity that we're gonna say, Okay,

1407
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna do.

1408
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 2: Because we might be able to do it on the team.

1409
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: Hey man, look, we want to practice at this time,

1410
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: and we can get all of us to agree, but

1411
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 1: what about the other thirty one team and getting those

1412
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,600
Speaker 1: players to agree that we're gonna do X, Y and Z.

1413
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 1: That's the problem that you have is because we've been

1414
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 1: allowed to be splintered. If we can, if we can

1415
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 1: stay in locked you know, like they you see, Ay,

1416
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 1: you see what they did when they when they we

1417
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: started taking them knees.

1418
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 2: What the voters do vote? Joe?

1419
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, they locked it in. Yeah you play if

1420
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 7: you won't tell us like y'all actually turn it in.

1421
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 7: Y'all listen the last twenty eleven uh on lockout.

1422
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 2: I didn't vote, who voted? When did we vote.

1423
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 1: Chris Posl said, Hey, everybody voted. We voted the end

1424
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 1: the lockout. Everybody's like, did you get a vote? Matt like,

1425
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 1: I ain't get no vote. Hey, they were smart. Let's

1426
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 1: just say yeah, you can't put it. Gil, I wish

1427
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 1: back this. The NBA is getting a seven billion dollar

1428
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: year METEA riites deal with a Lockley lock up ten

1429
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 1: percent cap growth. The next mac cap can grow up

1430
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 1: each season. So if the cap will will top it

1431
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 1: two hundred million and twenty nine a thirty five percent

1432
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 1: max salary project seventy two million per year, with the

1433
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 1: fifth year salary at ninety five million, a total max

1434
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 1: value five years, four hundred and nineteen million. So all

1435
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 1: NBA second team, Jaylen Bronson, Anthony Davis, Kevin Durant, Anthony Edwards, Kawhi,

1436
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: Leonard have have a little issue with that last selection

1437
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: third team All NBA Devin Booker, Steph Curry, Tyrese Haliburton, Lebron,

1438
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 1: James Demontes, some bonus, Gil.

1439
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 2: Kawhi second team or Lebron or some Okay, So when

1440
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 2: I did mine, when I when I.

1441
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 1: Turned mine in this this was my exact uh I

1442
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 1: had Luca SGA ant Man, Tatum, Jokic, Jannis Brunson, Kawhi

1443
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 1: A d.

1444
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:14,839
Speaker 2: Durant.

1445
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:19,600
Speaker 1: I had Paulo Sabonis, Booker, Lebron and Jalen Brown, so

1446
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 1: I was off by four right when I didn't have

1447
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 1: Giannis and in first team. I penalized him for how

1448
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 1: he ended the season, which you know, you know he

1449
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 1: ended the season seventeen and nineteen right, but his numbers itself,

1450
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 1: that's first team. So I'm not mad at that. Sabonius

1451
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 1: leading in the league and triple doubles and he was

1452
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: right in right in front of Curry of Tyler Curry.

1453
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: Kind of weird, but I'm not arguing with I don't

1454
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 1: see anything wrong with it. Kawhi who would be in

1455
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: front of Kawhi right? N Lebron Lebron? Yeah, why is

1456
01:13:58,320 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: Lebron on third team?

1457
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 2: And not problem record? Probably the record a little bit,

1458
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 2: just the record a little bit.

1459
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: Like what's so funny is I had them on second

1460
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: team too, So I'm not I'm not mad at the

1461
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 1: at the list Jalen Brown and you get penalized like

1462
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 1: it's like it's like you see how they use winning

1463
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 1: for something and then use you know.

1464
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not the other. Yeah I see, Yeah you're right,

1465
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah you're right.

1466
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: The volume