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Speaker 1: Tour announcement starts now. This is George. Just a reminder

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Speaker 1: that you can see my dear co host Sam Taggart

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Speaker 1: on tour this summer, starting in July in San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C, Philly, Chicago, Pittsburgh and Boston and Hot off

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Speaker 1: the Presses. You can also see me, George Severes, do

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Speaker 1: a few small shows this August in anticipation for my

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Speaker 1: own tour that's happening later on in the fall. But

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Speaker 1: this August I will be in New York, LA and

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Speaker 1: Get this East Hampton on August thirtieth. So if you

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Speaker 1: want to see me in New York, LA or East Hampton,

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Speaker 1: tickets are at linktree dot com slash George Severs. The

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Speaker 1: link is in my Instagram bio. And if you want

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Speaker 1: to see Sam on tour, you can find that at

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Speaker 1: linktree dot com slash get this Sam Taggart and that

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Speaker 1: link is in his Instagram bio. God, we love symmetry, folks,

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Speaker 1: well enjoy the show.

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Speaker 2: Podcast starts now And guess what It's George's birthday. Happy Birthday, George,

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Speaker 2: Happy birthday to George. I must say, you're being so

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Speaker 2: nonchalant about your birthday. It's freaking me out.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's I just got back from a trip last

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Speaker 1: night and I'm having a big birthday party to night.

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Speaker 1: That's true, and I'm insanely jet lagged, and actually this

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Speaker 1: coffee is doing the opposite of what it needs to do.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm worried.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna really start. And I also I just got

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Speaker 1: out of the shower. My hair is feeling a little crazy,

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Speaker 1: and I'm worried that I'm I'm worried that I'm like

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Speaker 1: frazzled woman late to a meeting and I'm gonna see

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Speaker 1: them in crazy during this recording, thought.

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Speaker 2: I can see where that fear is coming from based

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Speaker 2: on my general vibe, based on your general vibe. You know,

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Speaker 2: you're sort of panicking and you're grasping a topic saying.

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Speaker 2: You were saying, what was that spacing that happened in

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Speaker 2: the last five years, and we're like, what are you

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Speaker 2: talking about?

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, there was our guest who was not allowed

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Speaker 1: to speak currently. Her topic last time was space, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, it seemed I feel like she was

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Speaker 1: ahead of her time because two major space things have

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Speaker 1: happened in that time. One is Katie Perigo in the

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Speaker 1: space and everyone hating her and all women, and the

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Speaker 1: other one is the positive thing where people came back

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Speaker 1: from space and everyone was happy about that.

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Speaker 2: But I think space stuff is always happening. The point,

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Speaker 2: it's like how prep is back. It's like, well, prep

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Speaker 2: in a sense is always bad.

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Speaker 1: Prep like the drug.

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Speaker 2: No, like like dressing preppy. Oh.

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Speaker 1: I was like, were people not I didn't know prep

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Speaker 1: was on the outs and then came back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, people don't do prep anymore. They went a

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Speaker 1: I something I do have a topic, if you don't mind, please,

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Speaker 1: I want to bring to the table.

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Speaker 2: I'm scared.

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Speaker 1: So over the years I have followed a variety of

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Speaker 1: kind of middle of the road I would say, Greek

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Speaker 1: American meme accounts.

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Speaker 2: So these these are accounts.

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Speaker 1: That will do like little jokes about like stereotypes about

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Speaker 1: Greek grandmothers and like you know, sort of like Greek

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Speaker 1: that's the backdrop love that I've never thought twice about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm laughing. I'm sending in my sister, I'm

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Speaker 1: sending it in my mom. Cut to this month, Christopher

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Speaker 1: Nolan's The Odyssey comes out. Every single account is like,

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Speaker 1: boycott the Odyssey, disrespectful to our culture. How dare they

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Speaker 1: make him trans I was like, I had no idea

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Speaker 1: that this entire time I've been following right wing media.

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Speaker 2: This is so complex. I mean, I would love to

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Speaker 2: hear your your Greek perspective on what's happening, because the

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Speaker 2: thing is, at least those accounts are in theory. Greek

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Speaker 2: people sure like maybe they can you know, they can

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Speaker 2: freak out if they feel Yeah, I think the most

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Speaker 2: freakouts I'm seeing are like the most random guys from

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Speaker 2: Ohio who have that same opinion.

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Speaker 1: Well, in some ways, when you're a white person from Ohio,

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Speaker 1: of what is odd? Like it's it is. I genuinely

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Speaker 1: think that like what you're the guy you're describing is

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Speaker 2: Sure s sure do you think that.

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Speaker 1: The casting is unethical?

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Speaker 2: I'll say it.

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Speaker 1: I'm against it. I think it should be alway right.

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Speaker 2: Do you think Christopher Nolan had a meeting that was like, well,

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Speaker 2: what do you think should get Greek actors?

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Speaker 1: Or I guess, Okay, maybe I'm so naive and like

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Speaker 1: I'm so politically progressive that I'm shocked that this is happening.

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Speaker 1: But in my mind, the classics are like in the

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Speaker 1: be remixed. That's sort of how I feel the ancient

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Speaker 2: No, obviously, obviously, and I don't it doesn't feel like it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it exists within like a race.

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Speaker 1: So in fact, what I was like, it makes sense.

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Speaker 1: We really are making this into pretty long. I thought

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Speaker 2: Be like, like, grow up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought they would sort of be like the

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Speaker 1: flattered it was happening at all.

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Speaker 2: Do you think they're like, how like passionate? Do you

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Speaker 2: think they're being about this like they're.

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Speaker 1: Being pretty passionate. Really, it's because I was this is

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Speaker 1: that is being discussed. It's being discussed on the daytime

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Speaker 1: influencers and news people. I think on both sides, so

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Speaker 1: to speak. I will say there's this other argument that's

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Speaker 1: being made that the quote unquote issue is not anything

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Speaker 1: any way, Like they didn't like, for example, they didn't

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Speaker 1: I remember I was in high school when the movie

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Speaker 1: actually very popular in Greece and Pep were like going

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Speaker 1: as an almost virtue signaling type thing, have a big

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Speaker 1: I think the audiscy just like didn't, So I do

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Speaker 2: I will say, sure, that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Alison, what do you think about about Raised pindcasting,

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Speaker 1: about the Odyssey and about how my culture is portrayed

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Speaker 3: Culture and it's the original? Well, I don't like any

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Speaker 2: Oh amazing.

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Speaker 1: I welcome Alison Ivey, whose new book is called I'm

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Speaker 1: a Lot surviving myself and all the people I've been

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Speaker 1: And I was just saying, if you're watching on video,

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Speaker 1: you can see me holding it. But I was just saying,

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Speaker 1: it is the correct length and size for a book.

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Speaker 3: This is a trim size is correct. It's like the

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Speaker 3: biggest compliment that I got now, Yeah, because I like

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Speaker 3: the dimensions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm remembering like when people made front of Harry

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Speaker 1: styles for when he was promoting don't worry Darling for

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Speaker 1: being like, it's just it feels like a movie. It's

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Speaker 1: just amazing. That's I feel about this book, where I'm like,

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Speaker 1: these are the books we grew up with.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, He's like every once in a while, like

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Speaker 3: I get a book and I'm like, what is this

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Speaker 3: stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: And the way I try to if something is if

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Speaker 1: someone has not written enough, they'll try to like make

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Speaker 1: the margins larger, yes, or.

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Speaker 3: Turn paper rules.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I haven't checked the margins yet.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know they're the correct margin.

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Speaker 3: You're a protractor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have not checked the margins yet since we

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Speaker 2: looked at the outside. Yeah, judging the book by its cover,

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Speaker 2: which you should perfect shape and size.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, A very good color story. Yes, I feel like.

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Speaker 3: For many many, many, many many versions, it's.

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Speaker 1: Hard to be like, obviously it's nodding to millennial athetics,

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Speaker 1: but it's not succumbing to them.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. That is exactly what I told them when

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Speaker 3: they asked, what do you want the cover? I was

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Speaker 3: before I like sent out the proposal and I was like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, let's just call it I'm a Lot

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Speaker 3: And my agent was like, don't worry, we'll change it.

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Speaker 3: And then everybody was like, we love the title, and

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Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I love the title, but like

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Speaker 3: was like, you know, like I don't want to be

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Speaker 1: Want you don't want me to be on the cover.

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Speaker 1: Let me say no, Like that's.

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Speaker 3: Going to be a me discision, not a you decision

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Speaker 3: that comes out. But it worked out really nice.

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Speaker 1: I know what you mean though with like I'm a

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Speaker 1: lot it's like.

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Speaker 2: That genius like eighty stand up comedian style.

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Speaker 3: If yeah, if the book didn't like dig a little

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Speaker 3: too deep into my like actual psyche and was more

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Speaker 3: just like flat leave like very funny. I think that's

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Speaker 3: in my like complicated relationship with my parents, and maybe

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Speaker 3: I don't want to make a joke like entirely out

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Speaker 3: It alls like the Warrior to this book.

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Speaker 1: Like we're in a place where like as a white woman,

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Speaker 1: what options are left? You know what I mean? Like

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Speaker 1: literally it's like no, no, it's just like there's it's

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, with classes, a brunette with classes.

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Speaker 1: It's like already people have their tomatoes out?

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Speaker 3: Was it hard?

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Speaker 1: Hard?

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Speaker 3: And it's like I don't know. I just like I'm

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Speaker 3: like waiting for, you know, people to be upset about it.

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Speaker 1: But so far I haven't seen any.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's like a couple of like little good read,

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Speaker 3: I found you.

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Speaker 2: But do you secretly hope for backlash so that then

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Speaker 2: you can have backlash to the backlash.

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Speaker 3: Which ready for backlash, And like I don't get it

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Speaker 3: It's Instagram and some threads and then TikTok at night

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm it's funny because the algorithm like there was

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Speaker 3: Have you tried to you buy a magazine at an

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Speaker 3: I I like to buy magazines to go on planes.

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Speaker 1: Wait me too, you couldn't. I feel like the airports

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes there was one that was like the Titanic

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think so, because, like I not to brag, was

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Speaker 1: New York Times, which is our neighbors spend most of

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Speaker 1: the year in their second home and they get the

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Speaker 1: New York Times every day, and so whenever I want

446
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Speaker 1: a copy, I just steal one of theirs. So I

447
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Speaker 1: have to want it, like they're I can't bag a month,

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Speaker 1: like where is April twelve?

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Speaker 3: Anyway, Buying print media has never been yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I couldn't agree more. I'm like, Sam,

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Speaker 2: your take, like I have nothing to add. I have

452
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Speaker 2: not tried to buy a magazine in years. I to

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Speaker 2: be fair, I have always had issues with magazines and

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Speaker 2: the fact that they're always ads. I'm like enough. But

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Speaker 2: the ads are I mean, this.

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Speaker 1: Is my moneration.

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Speaker 3: I like thee in fashion magazines, the ads sometimes are

458
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Speaker 3: like as are more compelling than some of the photo

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Speaker 3: sprints they do so well, you know that one of

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Speaker 3: the not anymore. Now it's all just like what if

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Speaker 3: it was Zendeia. I mean it should be, but like also, okay.

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Speaker 1: Well, one of my favorite to one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: Zendaia ads is she's in a literal print ad for

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Speaker 1: like a watch company or something, and the ad is

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Speaker 1: just a red carpet photo of her, not even wearing

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Speaker 1: like an existing right now watch and I'm like, god, bless,

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Speaker 1: like she made she literally made that past of income

468
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Speaker 1: from being like here's my face. Yeah, like here a

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Speaker 1: Getty image. You could give you a Getty Image password

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Speaker 1: and you can download it. But okay.

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Speaker 2: One of the.

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Speaker 1: To me signs of cultural decline is that I'm getting

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Speaker 1: nostalgic for literally like aughts ads I know, which at

474
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Speaker 1: the time were so depraved and we were just I mean,

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Speaker 1: nostalgic is wrong word, but we're like, wow, remember like

476
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Speaker 1: a beautiful mad Men era advertisement where they like really

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Speaker 1: like you know, there was like an illustration and blah, blah,

478
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Speaker 1: and it was like a cigarette. Now I'm getting nostalgic

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Speaker 1: for literally like Steve Madden as uh.

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Speaker 3: Huh and the quiznos. Yeah, like all of the but even.

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, ads, because we've declined so far, like now

482
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Speaker 2: it's literally just a guy with a phone being like

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Speaker 2: you got chick out poop powder and you're like, oh god.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm listening.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's either like a licensed photo of Zendaya

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Speaker 3: from another event advertising for watches that she's never seen before,

487
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Speaker 3: or it's like a six minute ad with like a

488
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Speaker 3: current zeitgeisty famous person doing like a short film for Motorole,

489
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Speaker 3: and you're like, motoro the short film thing I have.

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Speaker 3: One of the heated rivalry guys was in like a

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Speaker 3: like there was like an extended cut of like an

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Speaker 3: ad where he's running on treadmill and I'm like, well,

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Speaker 3: it's not this either. This is also not what I'm

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Speaker 3: looking at, Like I don't want it to approach media.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to like live in ad worlds. We really

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Speaker 3: built a healthscape for ourselves that we can't leave.

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Speaker 2: Do they still do sex tips on Cosmo? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I was like like you're still kind of in that

499
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Speaker 3: closed loop of hosting together.

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Speaker 2: They still sex tips.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if Cosmo it does.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I'm on the cover. I'm on the cover

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Speaker 1: and it's my sex tips. The whole issue is Georgia

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Speaker 1: sex tips for women. Were looking for someone? Yes, it's

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Speaker 1: my sex tips for women, and they are you know,

506
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Speaker 1: beyond prep.

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Speaker 2: Stuff to get in there, guys, get in there. Step three,

508
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Speaker 2: have fun, Yeah, just like, take yourself off for a drink,

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Speaker 2: don't forget to smile.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's my sexist room. And then it's smile, sweetie, smile, smile.

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Speaker 2: You'll have more fun if you smile. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And it's stopped being a huge B word. And maybe guys,

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Speaker 1: will you that's a big one. Yeah. Has anyone ever

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Speaker 1: suggest that just smile more? Stop expressing all your political opinions? Yeah,

515
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Speaker 1: maybe get interested in sports, you know, cook clean clean?

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Speaker 3: Come on, what our makeup? Your job?

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Speaker 2: Don't No one likes that? Yeah? And I'm heavily so yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's awesome. I think So.

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Speaker 1: Shall we do it for a segment?

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Speaker 2: I think we should first segment. So our first segment

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Speaker 2: is called straight Shooters, And in this segment, we're going

522
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Speaker 2: to ask you a series of rapid fire questions, especially

523
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Speaker 2: this thing or this other thing, to gauge your familiarity

524
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Speaker 2: with and complicity and straight culture. The only rule is

525
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Speaker 2: you can't ask any follo up questions or will simply

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Speaker 2: scream at you.

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Speaker 1: Correct George, kick us off, I will kick us off, okay.

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Speaker 1: The temptation of Christ, or the emancipation of Mimi.

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Speaker 2: The emancipation of Memi being heaven sent or needing to repent.

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Speaker 1: Being heaven sent, the fairest of them all, or the

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Speaker 1: Heiress is at the ball.

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Speaker 2: The heiress is at the ball, Oh captain, my captain?

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Speaker 2: Or no laughing? Why is there laughing?

534
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Speaker 1: Declining birth rates or ascending free weights, declining birth right period.

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Speaker 2: Past the point of no return, or past the joint.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to get turned.

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Speaker 3: Past the joint.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get turned burning man or fearless girl,

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Speaker 1: fearless girl.

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Speaker 2: It's fun getting into trouble or you're stuck in your

541
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Speaker 2: political bubble, it's fun.

542
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Speaker 3: Got to get to travel.

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Speaker 2: That one was deep. Hey, I have to say, you

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Speaker 2: know you have what's going on that's so difficult between

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Speaker 2: us that you have the trump card to unfortunately use

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Speaker 2: that phrase of having just gotten back from an international trip,

547
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Speaker 2: whereas I also just traveled, and so I'm like, actually

548
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Speaker 2: quite tired, but like my travel wasn't as big as yours,

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Speaker 2: so it's like it was domestic.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't even care. Well, it's domestic from LA. But

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Speaker 1: also Sam has been on tours, so he's been traveling

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Speaker 1: a bunch, so I get it.

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Speaker 3: It's a different domestic.

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Speaker 1: By the way, because of my recent Delta usage, because

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Speaker 1: of touring reasons. For the first time ever, I got

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Speaker 1: thanked personally on the Delta flight for being a Silver

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Speaker 1: Medallion member, which isn't even high enough to use the lounge.

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Speaker 3: The lowest, but it gives you enough. Airline you said, yeah, exactly.

559
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Speaker 3: You're like, what you're not hitting you.

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Speaker 1: What you get is to thank you.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry to be comedians talking about planes, but we

562
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Speaker 2: have to a little bit. I'm like, so, I'm spending

563
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Speaker 2: one million dollars a year to fly and I'm somehow

564
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Speaker 2: on the very last seat, the last person aboard. I'm like, so,

565
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Speaker 2: what's everyone else paying? How much money are you guys

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Speaker 2: throwing down for this stuff. I'm like the lowest rung

567
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Speaker 2: of society.

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Speaker 3: All of a sudden, I do think they should put

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Speaker 3: a piece of paper on every seat that says how

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Speaker 3: much that person paid.

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Speaker 1: For the Oh my god, I agree, Like.

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Speaker 3: Just a little tag kind of like like when you're

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Speaker 3: writing Amtrak and they like put the thing of like

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Speaker 3: what stop you're getting off on the top.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I just want to know, like you meet people

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Speaker 2: who are so casual like, well, of course I am

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Speaker 2: in the in this section. Well, I haven't flown back

578
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Speaker 2: there in a long time. I'm like, so you're consistently

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Speaker 2: spending four thousand dollars on a seat, like that's insane.

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Speaker 1: Flying is one of those things where you suddenly realize

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Speaker 1: people you thought were your social class are way wealthier

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Speaker 1: than you, and then no one's ever money.

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Speaker 2: Much with money. That's true. True, that's true.

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Speaker 1: That's the hope.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm going to start spreading that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I just I'm like, I'm like, oh, you spend you

588
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 3: spend too much on things that you shouldn't spend money on.

589
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Speaker 1: Yeah, should feel bad.

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Speaker 2: I'm right.

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Speaker 1: I was about to say, but I feel like that's

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Speaker 1: something you also do. They don't know that, but they

593
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Speaker 1: don't know that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't know that.

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Speaker 1: So Allison, last time, as we mentioned your topic score, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We didn't rue thank you that you used to be

597
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Speaker 2: you know, you used to.

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Speaker 1: Be able to get a low rating by doing a

599
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Speaker 1: Cosmo quiz and you haven't.

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Speaker 2: Had that in a year.

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00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: So you need to go guys to be sort of

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Speaker 1: rude to you. Yes, okay, I mean I will say,

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Speaker 1: what do you think?

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Speaker 2: No, kick us off?

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Speaker 1: I think that you were so consistent and clearly knew

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Speaker 1: how everything worked in a way that hit the mark

607
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Speaker 1: but was not in any way unexpected. You know, I'm

608
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Speaker 1: almost like, no subverting, Yeah, no subverting of expectations. So

609
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking it's in the like it's in the eight hundred.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, eight fifteen, eight fifteen, right, Yeah, that's a really

611
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 2: good number though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really thank you. I needed that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's to be minus.

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Speaker 2: Should we get into the topic? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Allison, what is your straight topic that you

616
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Speaker 1: brought with us with you today? And what is straight

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Speaker 1: about it?

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Speaker 3: Okay? So last time I was here, I went esoteric

619
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Speaker 3: and big and said outer space, and then I wanted

620
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Speaker 3: to be like go really small and and I think

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Speaker 3: and we'll have to figure out like how to word this,

622
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Speaker 3: so like as an episode title, isn't four sentences shopping

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Speaker 3: four things for my little oasis.

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Speaker 1: At a home goods you said something sort of in

625
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Speaker 1: conversation that really made a click for me, which is like,

626
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Speaker 1: this is the woman version of man caves. Yes, yes, yes,

627
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Speaker 1: like my little oasis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my little oasis is like hyper straight, I think,

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Speaker 3: and I feel like I was watching an old episode

630
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Speaker 3: of like some Bravo show and it was like home

631
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Speaker 3: Goods spot and con which is like what kind of like?

632
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Speaker 3: And I was just like, oh, right, We've been doing

633
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Speaker 3: this for a long time. Like there was like They're like,

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Speaker 3: should we go to home Goods because I have to

635
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Speaker 3: furnish my little my mother in law suite downstairs, which

636
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Speaker 3: I'm durning into my little oasis And You're like, who,

637
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Speaker 3: it's like chilling.

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Speaker 1: So my little oasis. I'm thinking it could go to

639
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Speaker 1: a variety of ways. It could be empowered, single goal,

640
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Speaker 1: it could be empty nestra mom.

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Speaker 3: Who. I don't think either of those women need a

642
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Speaker 3: little oasis. A woman who lives with a man needs

643
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Speaker 3: a little oasis in the way that like men think

644
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 3: everything in the house like in straight couples. I think,

645
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 3: as someone who's never lived with anybody, are like, oh,

646
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 3: everything in this house is like for everybody, and I

647
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 3: want stuff that's just for men. Yeah, like women. It's

648
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: like every room in the house is a workspace and

649
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 3: something needs to be the release. And it's just like

650
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Speaker 3: you could feel like like a woman walking into a

651
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Speaker 3: room that has like lavender like throw pillows everywhere and

652
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 3: just going, oh god.

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Speaker 1: I actually relaxed just thinking about it.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of nice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a zen garden, there's a water feature. There's

656
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Speaker 3: like that's the desk where I'm going to write in

657
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Speaker 3: my journal. And all of those things are purchased at

658
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Speaker 3: kind of like the home Goods TJ Max kind of

659
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Speaker 3: like everything's on the same shelf kind of stores. I

660
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Speaker 3: feel like that's what those stores are for, and that

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Speaker 3: kind of like entire like a to Z experience of

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Speaker 3: like going into that store, finding an incense holder, bringing

663
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 3: it home, putting it like on the shelf, and being like,

664
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 3: and this is my space. Is like one of the

665
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: most heterosexual things.

666
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: There's something about the aspirational element of this, yes, because

667
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: you do you see these things in the store, you

668
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 2: buy them. You have the fantasy like even like some

669
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: you know, we talked about man caves on the show

670
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: before and there's like darkness and evil there. But then like,

671
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: but the fantasy of a woman being like this will

672
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 2: be my oasis when I buy this pillow, but then

673
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: it no matter what, it always turns into a commune

674
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: space anyway. Yes, it is never her oasis fully.

675
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: Yes, she's responsible for maintaining it as well. Yes, it's

676
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 3: not like somebody else is going to come in and

677
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: clean it.

678
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: Not only that, but then the husband is probably like

679
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: making fun of it and being like the fuck did

680
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: you buy now? Like another candle?

681
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 3: That's candle?

682
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:50,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right.

683
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 3: It's just so it's like it's like it feels so

684
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 3: like light and bright and like like you should have

685
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 3: a little space girl, And then like when you realize

686
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 3: kind of like the underpinnings of like why that needs

687
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 3: to exist and what it means within like a home,

688
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: you're like straight culture is still so yeah, it can

689
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 3: be very dark.

690
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: Have you seen the invite?

691
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: Yes?

692
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's like me too in the invite.

693
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 2: Me as well.

694
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: This is I feel like part of their dynamic and

695
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: the invite is like she has a passion for interiors

696
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: and he consistently makes fun of her for spending money

697
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: on these you know, in his mind, superficial surface level things,

698
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: right crow pillows. Oh, she wants to paint the walla

699
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: shade of teal, and he thinks they all look the same.

700
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: So it's actually I think that's part of the darkness

701
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: of it is that it is a sight of gender war,

702
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: where like the woman is like, well it's.

703
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 3: Important to me.

704
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, you know what I mean. Like, there's something

705
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: about maybe this will lead to a dead end, but

706
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: we'll try it. Yeah, something about a suburban home, like

707
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: something where there's too much space. Yeah, almost, if you

708
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: don't have that extra room, you actually do have to

709
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: talk about your issues. But because you have an extra room,

710
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 2: you're like, let's not talk about it. I'm building a room. Yeah.

711
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, like yes, here and the door close up.

712
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

713
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: Well, a suburban home is essentially a war zone where

714
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: at any given time, the troops are moving towards one

715
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: direction or towards the other direction. Yes, yes, it's yes,

716
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: and sometimes a man is winning, sometimes a woman is winning.

717
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: But of course there's one rule, which is it can't

718
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: be addressed. So it's like you have to talk around

719
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: it in some way. Yea, and it either it's like, oh,

720
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: we only have the lactose free milk, and it's like,

721
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: that's not what you mean. Yeah, you mean you haven't

722
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: had sex in five years. I want to get into

723
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: I feel like I should mention Allison that you and

724
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: I are in a at this point pretty defunct group chat.

725
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: My god, I forgotlicitly only about candles, yes, called candle chat.

726
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 3: Candle Chat.

727
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: It was relatively active for like three years. Get too Heavy, Yeah,

728
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: and it was four of us and basically was just

729
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: candle updates.

730
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 3: Yeah and one candles hitting the scene.

731
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: I was gifted an expensive candle, a tomato scented Louve

732
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: candle by my sister in law, and I had everyone

733
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: over and we actually all lit it together and played

734
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: the Olympic theme song because we were lighting the torch.

735
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: That's nice.

736
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: And so I feel like candles and scents are a

737
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: huge part of this.

738
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: They're absolutely a huge part of this. Yeah, you're just

739
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 3: seeing what's behind us. Those like what are those called

740
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 3: smelling sticks.

741
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: That's different than a confuser, Yes, a diffuser, Yeah, yeah,

742
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: because incense is different.

743
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 3: They're like actually to light them, those are just like

744
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 3: oils that get kind of.

745
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: The sticks oil sticks, My mom my, mom's I mean,

746
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 1: talk about my oasis. My mom will like, first of all,

747
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: she'll go wild during the holidays, so she'll be like,

748
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: amazing gingerbread smell, and it's like, okay, so we need

749
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: that for two weeks tops. But then if you keep

750
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: it there, then the house will just always smell it, yes, ginger.

751
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 3: Yes, because like overtime, those things just emit right, all

752
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 3: those smells.

753
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: Okay, But here's what I want to say about smells

754
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: in terms of the war. Yes, what's interesting about smells

755
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: is that you can be like, this is my little oasis.

756
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm putting them here, but they complicate space because it

757
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: makes exactly smell isn't contained. So you can be like, well,

758
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 1: it's just my candle, like I got it because it's

759
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: a little thing I'm doing for me. But then the

760
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: entire house smells like lavender, and the man is like,

761
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: that's emasculated, which feels tactical exactly I wanted to exactly.

762
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: The war continues, and the man is like, why doesn't

763
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 1: it smell like stainless steel and shoe leather and shoe leather.

764
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's something about do you do These gender wars

765
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 2: exist when people don't have kids. Where do kids fall

766
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 2: into this, because there is something too about an oasis

767
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: where it's like like the kids do in the war

768
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: of a family. Yes, it's like really and like almost specifically,

769
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 2: they feel more entitled to I feel like the woman's space.

770
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: Yes, and so like, well, it's very don't go into

771
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: dad's office.

772
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, your business happens, business.

773
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: Openers, they'll kill you. Like it. It feels very dangerous.

774
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: Dad is dangerous. Mom is welcoming. It's safe, and it's

775
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: what's hers is yours y Yeah. And actually if you,

776
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: if you as a mom, are like don't touch that

777
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: expensive fro pillow, You're a frigid bitch.

778
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 3: Yeah right, nothing is yours, yes, Whereas.

779
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: If you as a dad or like, don't touch my

780
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: free weights, that's normal.

781
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 3: No one is being like don't say that, You're gonna

782
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 3: get hurt and yeah.

783
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: So I find that to be an interesting little detail

784
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 2: in it because I do empathize like when I'm like

785
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: God having an oasis, like when they're when the kids

786
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: are taking over everything more than anything. That's true.

787
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: And we've been talking about it about the oasis as

788
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: defined against the husband, but it's actually also defined against

789
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: the kids.

790
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 3: It's the entire family.

791
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like Anna, Yeah, it's an oasis family you

792
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: built for you I hate, Yeah, exactly. You need to

793
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: escape from Yeah, no, I'm I'm unhappy, yes, and I

794
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: need to leave my family. And that's why I'm going.

795
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 3: To do that by closing the door in a room

796
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 3: and listening to a Paula Cole City. What's happening in there?

797
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: Yes, like a headspace twenty minute meditation, and I'm gonna

798
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: have my you know, sort of musk scented. What are

799
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 1: they called again, these sticks sticks? The sense sticks sen sticks.

800
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: Well, we talked about once like dad hobbies being like

801
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: wanting to run away, and I actually feel that, like

802
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 2: in a store. That's when a woman is like what

803
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: if I started fresh? Yeah, everything like about me changed

804
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: and this store was my new life.

805
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 3: Well that's like kind of the like I like consider it,

806
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 3: like I don't stop, but like chaos stores like yeah,

807
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: home Goods, a TJ. Max where it's just like who

808
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: knows what I'll find it here? It'll be me like

809
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 3: you know, it's like kind of that like that hunting

810
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 3: where it's like a shelf that has like seven hundred

811
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 3: like different mugs and you're like, but which one I'm

812
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: gonna What if I find the best one? Like I

813
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 3: think that that's like this kind of like dream and

814
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: it's like and then I can bring that good thing

815
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 3: home and put it in my space, like and it

816
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 3: just has this very trapped woman vibe to it, but

817
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 3: with kind of like a twinge of hope.

818
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: I've never thought about the level of mystery and like

819
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: a TJ. Max or Home Goods, yes, where it's like

820
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 2: the stuff there can get quite weird. It's almost like thrifting,

821
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: except everything is liked.

822
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: Yes, you are so correct that it's like the vibe

823
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: is I might find a hidden gem, even though it

824
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: could not be less of a completely like machine made experience, right,

825
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: Like you're not going to find the hidden.

826
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 3: Gem, right Like, Yes, I think you can walk in

827
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 3: and every once in a while, like there's some like

828
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 3: off color, like you say, that's like marked down slightly

829
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 3: from what it would be if you were buying it

830
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 3: at retail or whatever. But like for the most part,

831
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 3: it's just crap, and it's like the idea that there's

832
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 3: something hidden in all of that crap. I think is

833
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 3: also just like the way that straight women date.

834
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: Ye like.

835
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's also like the home goods store is

836
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: a microcosm of the suburban home and that overall it's

837
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: like I'm not masculine, that's not what, but it's overall

838
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: it's like rational. It's like, okay, this is the kitchen

839
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: section and.

840
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 3: There's no frills to the space itself. They're very much

841
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 3: like are almost a ware helse, like fluorescent lighting. There's

842
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 3: like the signage is like all just very like dress.

843
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: You know.

844
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: So then you find the one section it's almost like

845
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: my little oasis within home goods. You find the one

846
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: section that has the like the little throw pillows with

847
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, the Pinterest font that says hope on it yes,

848
00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: and the ceramics a mosaic picture for yeah, like the

849
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: part of West Elm that has ceramics that are made

850
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: to look handmade but are not handmade. Is I mean

851
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: there's something so deeply sad.

852
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: I know.

853
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: And it's like I'm like, is it tricking people or

854
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 3: are you or are you just giving people who want

855
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 3: to be tricked the thing they want completely?

856
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: And also like when you buy, because I have purchased

857
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: things from West Elm that are like on clearance that

858
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, this looks homemade, and like I could tell

859
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: someone I got this out of flea market and they

860
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: would believe me.

861
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: Well, there's something. There's something oasis about an item not

862
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: having a past.

863
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 3: Nowhere.

864
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. When item has a past, you can sort of

865
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 2: be like, I don't know, I can take on someone

866
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 2: else's thing. Yeah, But when an item is brand new

867
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 2: from a machine, you're just like, okay, so you have

868
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: nothing on you, Like I get to imprint whatever I

869
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: want on this piece. Yeah, that really freeing.

870
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

871
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 2: Okay, if you guys are building an oasis, what are

872
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: you putting in it? Wow? Okay, I want okay, maybe

873
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: three items?

874
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: Oh this is really good. Okay, this is really good.

875
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: Are we assuming there's like furniture in there?

876
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: You can assume a basic amount of furniture.

877
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 3: Like there's like a chair, like a comfortable chair.

878
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think college dorm lounge amount of.

879
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 3: It's just I don't be like the chair.

880
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: Yea, You're like, I want a fridge to start jacuzzie.

881
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 3: I guess, I mean I would want a candle, like

882
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: I would have to start with like like having a

883
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 3: nice I always have a candle going, like I want

884
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: I'm going to need a candle in my space. I

885
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 3: would like Keels to make one from their musk. I

886
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 3: don't know why they won't. It's many letters to that company.

887
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 3: Please make a candle. You make everything else. This is

888
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 3: a good point, so I would do a candle.

889
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: I do.

890
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 3: I do think a giant comfortable pillow that is like

891
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 3: slightly more not like a big cushion, like a not

892
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 3: a toft, not a tought, but like a pillow that's

893
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 3: kind of malleable for me because like, if I'm spending

894
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 3: a lot of time in my oasis, like I will

895
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 3: be moving positions a lot within my kind of large chair,

896
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 3: and sometimes you want that to be kind of like

897
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 3: upright and leaning, and like sometimes you want that to

898
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 3: be kind of like I'm kind I'm almost lying down

899
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 3: and reading.

900
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 2: Uh.

901
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: Well, you're an author, you're a published, so you are

902
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: doing you have to read?

903
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: Ayah, no, you don't have That's what happens.

904
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: When you become a published. You never have to read

905
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: because you.

906
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,479
Speaker 3: Graduate, when you sign your contract or like no more books.

907
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: You get to have books, but you don't have to

908
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 3: read them.

909
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 1: So pill a magical pillow that does exactly what you wanted.

910
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: You want.

911
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 3: And I think a not to like double up on

912
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 3: lighting because I don't think of as candles as lighting.

913
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: They are spent.

914
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: Sense, we're so on the same page. Yes, the lighting

915
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: needs to be perfect.

916
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 3: So you want a correct, a correct a warm light

917
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 3: lamp that has kind of that like creates like a

918
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 3: real softness and like no over head, no, no blue lights,

919
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: no anything like that. Like a nice floor.

920
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: Lamp that's gorgeous.

921
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 3: I think that would be mine.

922
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: Think okay, so I think this is a little out

923
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:09,959
Speaker 1: of the box.

924
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: Please.

925
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: Something that is always that I always covet is like

926
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: an expensive sort of like vintage movie poster, like not

927
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: a not a you know what I mean, Like you

928
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: know you'll see like a it's like a Japanese movie

929
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: poster of like an old god I was about to say,

930
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: Woody Allen movie, you know, insert different reference here, you know.

931
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: And it's like and it's randomly like six hundred dollars

932
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: and you would never buy it for yourself.

933
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: Yes.

934
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: One thing we put on our wedding registry which people

935
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: did buy us is this vintage woman on the version

936
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: of a Nervous breakdown poster that's huge. And then we

937
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: got it framed and it's in our and I'm like

938
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: it actually calms me down so much to be like

939
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: how fun, Like it's like elevator. It's weirdly like elevated

940
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: dorm furniture.

941
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I find that was like also like with a

942
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: certain flavor of vintage advertise.

943
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: Yes exactly.

944
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 3: It's like it's like the shitty version is like always

945
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 3: a good day for a gutsy or whatever, but like

946
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 3: there are better versions of that that are like cool, yes,

947
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 3: and you don't want that to add.

948
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: But that's it's like because you don't want the you

949
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: don't want a movie poster or an ad poster in

950
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: your living room, like that's a little sort of tacky,

951
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: but you do want it in your oasis.

952
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 3: You do want it just for you.

953
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: It's very it's honestly like man cave, but make it

954
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: a little gay, like you have the you have the

955
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: you know, the poster for like the for like an

956
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: Unmarried Woman, that movie with Joel Clayborg. It's like, okay,

957
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: so that's a fun poster and it's like a nice

958
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: frame whatever. So maybe that I want like a a

959
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: really cozy vintage rug that's like discolored in all the

960
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: right places. Yeah, and then I want I mean, the

961
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: most difficult thing, of course is seating, because what I

962
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: really want is a giant bean bag chair. But I

963
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: don't want it to look, you know, trash, like I want.

964
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 3: To know what you mean and you have with your

965
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 3: with your movie poster and your driving college you're.

966
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: Going man cave with it also, but I do think

967
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: I want Yeah, I want a gay man cave.

968
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 2: Like I want like a really like like feminine.

969
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: Sort of like if if if eighteen year old me

970
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: had unlimited money. That's what makes me feel safe. It's

971
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: I don't want it to be tasteful, like I wanted

972
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 1: to be like the movie that I loved when I

973
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: was seventeen, a really fun rug and like a giant

974
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: feedback chair.

975
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I see that.

976
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: What do you want?

977
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 2: Okay? First and foremost, I want a giant blanket?

978
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, what material are you?

979
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: I want like it just needs to be really soft, okay,

980
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 2: where you pick it up and you go like, oh

981
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: my god, this is so soft and it's like it's

982
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 2: a little too much where like whenever you wear it,

983
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: you're like kind of sweating, but you are like, but

984
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: what if it was cold enough for this made sense, Yes,

985
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: that would be that is the fantasy. I think I

986
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: want to go a little bit. I want to lean

987
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 2: into home goods core.

988
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: I think that's important.

989
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: And I want like a stupid lamp that's like a

990
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 2: monkey that then like maybe with symbols, but then it's

991
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 2: like a lamp with a lamp shade.

992
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 3: And you're like, who would buy this novelty?

993
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like but it's clearly for a suburban

994
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: home and you're like, this is so weird. Why does

995
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 2: the store have this? I think if you can put

996
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 2: one of those in your home with your full chest.

997
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: That's a really good point. Know me for husband who's

998
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: a sculptor, I don't know if he still does, but

999
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: he used to make floor lamps, and he made one

1000
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: that that looks almost like a geometric palm tree, you

1001
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, And we know this couple

1002
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: that has it in their home, and every time I'm

1003
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: like that, like to have that in your oasis, like

1004
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: a novelty like art flora lamp.

1005
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1006
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: The other thing this is not an object, but I'm like,

1007
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: I want this room the second I walk in without

1008
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: me having to press a button to start playing like

1009
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: low key instrumental electronic, like calm electronic music, like sort

1010
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: of like if massive, it's like made it made it

1011
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: playlist for a spa, Okay, you know what I mean,

1012
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: Like I want music for airports type of thing.

1013
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, music for music report. I would also like

1014
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 3: to add I mine does have a ceiling fan, but

1015
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 3: that's part of the structure, the.

1016
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: Whole thing with this whole fantasy. Mostly we're just like,

1017
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: what do you want in a room? Yeah? Right, the

1018
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: whole fantasy. Mostly what I want is to be like

1019
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 2: I wanted to be like two thousand and three and

1020
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 2: I'm in like, yeah, my richest friend's basement.

1021
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like that's literally all I want.

1022
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the heaven on earth for me. When

1023
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: I talk about bean bag chairs, yeah we are.

1024
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: I am describing a basement basically.

1025
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's imagine in like a basement or even like

1026
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 3: a like a basement where you walk at like a

1027
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 3: house that's built on a hill and like the basement

1028
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 3: like an exit.

1029
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 2: I love those. Ye, God, you can really be free.

1030
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 3: My third thing, so we've got cozy blanket.

1031
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 2: Cozy blanket.

1032
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 3: We've got Novelty lamp.

1033
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 2: Novelty Monkey lamp, oh well this is this goes back

1034
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 2: to say it, Okay, you know those chairs where it's

1035
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: like a basket.

1036
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 3: Yes, with the name, but I don't Yah, We're not

1037
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 3: going to get there.

1038
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 1: It's one of those things that I always I read

1039
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: the name and books, then look up on Dictionary and

1040
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, great, remember, and then I then just.

1041
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 3: Every time I love those chairs, I'm possible to get

1042
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 3: in and out of always breaking.

1043
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: I wouldn't And you say in it's just creaks different.

1044
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: Right, So you want sort of like a like a

1045
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: startup from twenty eleven that has nap pods if you

1046
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 1: want the nap room.

1047
00:47:59,480 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 3: Yes.

1048
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: Basically the other item I want get ready is just

1049
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: an ocean view. I just want to be able to

1050
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: open the window ocean.

1051
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 3: You're still in a landlock.

1052
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: I don't care where I am, but I want it

1053
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: to look realistic and I want an ocean view. Yes.

1054
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: We stayed in like a rental house once and this

1055
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 2: where like it was like a time capsule two two

1056
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 2: thousand and five because they haven't updated it in forever. Yeah,

1057
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 2: and it was like the most comforting thing that has

1058
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 2: ever happened to me. And they need to like make

1059
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 2: this a thing where it's like this is period accurate

1060
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 2: two thousand and five. You can return.

1061
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it would be nice to get a rental

1062
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 3: home that is just like everything is two thousand and five,

1063
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 3: including like the access to technology.

1064
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just like no, there's really something there.

1065
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 3: But then it's like I have my phone right there.

1066
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 3: Something that's like a for the whole house.

1067
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: That could be awesome.

1068
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: I had a real like sense memory. So in this

1069
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: era that you're describing, we were still living in New

1070
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: Jersey and I was in my parents' house in Greece

1071
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: this last week, and I was looking for a book

1072
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: to read, and all my mom's old books from the

1073
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: New Jersey era still have like Burns and Noble like

1074
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: weekly picksticker, but it's like you know torn and yeah, yeah,

1075
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, remember like she would just

1076
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: go to Burn's Noble.

1077
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 3: And get the Weekly and just like whatever they recommend it.

1078
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she read a lot of good books. Yeah,

1079
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure now we have to listen to book a

1080
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: book club and that's the best case scenario I wish.

1081
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1082
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: Wow, Well, I think we've learned a lot.

1083
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 2: I think we've learned a lot. Are you petitioning Dual

1084
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 2: Liipa or maybe Lord to include your book on the

1085
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: book Club.

1086
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I need one both. Any any of the fabulous

1087
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 3: gals that have ever read a book, if you could

1088
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 3: just carry it around the next time you're on vacation,

1089
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 3: that would be my dream. Please. A Jenner would be fine.

1090
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: Wood, Yeah, even Chris, you know, hey, Chris, especially.

1091
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 3: Chris especially it's for older DALs. Well well, I would.

1092
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 1: Say it's for the for the Kim generation.

1093
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 3: Christian, but it's like more for Kim than Kylie with

1094
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 3: a lot of like reflecting on youth.

1095
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,479
Speaker 1: Who would be your ideal celebrity to be photographed holding

1096
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: your book?

1097
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 2: Amazing question? Oh my god.

1098
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: And actually we are also going to ends right even

1099
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: though we don't have books out.

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00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 3: I'm like Brian Cox, Oh my god, that would be fun.

1101
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 2: It was huge.

1102
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: But because that's so unexpected, it will become a meme.

1103
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 3: Yes exactly, where it's like it's like, what is this

1104
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 3: old man doing reading this burnette woman's book?

1105
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 2: Like it would just be so it's like when Grimes

1106
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: was reading like Mars or yeah, yeah.

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00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 3: Answer, I'm like Michelle Obama. It's like who's the most

1108
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 3: famous person.

1109
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 1: Like who's sort of adjacent to published.

1110
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 3: Ye were people who look up to that person and

1111
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 3: know that person and don't like hate that person. Also

1112
00:50:58,719 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 3: are like I've read.

1113
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: And they buy books. Yeah, okay, great answer, great answer.

1114
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: Imagine Madonna carrying it.

1115
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: That would be amazing.

1116
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 3: It's like it is a title where I'm like, it

1117
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 3: is a bit if you're carrying it around like it

1118
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 3: is kind of funny. I haven't seen it in the

1119
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 3: way I've seen its stores. I haven't seen like anybody

1120
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 3: with it yet, but I'm hoping that that happens once.

1121
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 3: That's probably the only amount of time, Like that's like

1122
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 3: the most expected amount of time it would probably happen

1123
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 3: for me. But I don't know. It could be it

1124
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 3: could be watch Out Bell Bird and I'm coming for

1125
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 3: your title.

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00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, bell Burden is interesting because obviously that book

1127
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: is so huge, But I actually, have have you seen anyone, know,

1128
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: I've seen someone in the wild reading it once, But

1129
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: you would expect, you know, we live in Brooklyn, you

1130
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: would expect, like.

1131
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 3: I feel like I used to do so much commuting

1132
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 3: around by train, and really I don't anymore. So I

1133
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 3: am seeing people carrying books around a lot less because

1134
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 3: they're when I'm crossing paths with people that are walking.

1135
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 2: So it is a little Yeah, imagine my experience living

1136
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 2: in La First of all, everyone's driving. Second of all,

1137
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 2: no one can read.

1138
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: Who would be your ideal celebrity to read your book

1139
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: when it comes out?

1140
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 2: No, I wanted to be McDonald. Oh, I want Dona

1141
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 2: to be reading that thing.

1142
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 3: I want.

1143
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,959
Speaker 1: I want I want Donald Trump to be photographed reading

1144
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: my book. And that's my final answer.

1145
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 2: I think that would be huge for you.

1146
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I could even like get I could

1147
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: be like this isn't for you, and then we would

1148
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: like get into a fight and that would be huge

1149
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: and he'd be like, well, because it's poorly written.

1150
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Right. Do you think you know how like when

1151
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 2: George Bush is not president anymore and now it's like, oh,

1152
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: he's fine. Do you think like ten years from now,

1153
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 2: if Trump is still alive, will be like, you know what,

1154
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 2: you guys, like you're too hard on him. Yes, I

1155
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 2: do think that happens.

1156
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 3: The culture will do that for sure.

1157
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 2: You know what.

1158
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: The thing with George Bush, this is scary. When they

1159
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: first tried to do that, obviously we were all like, yeah,

1160
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: don't do that. And it's now been long Obviously I

1161
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: still think he's a monster, but it's now been long

1162
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 1: enough that there is a part of me that's like, oh,

1163
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: and that's scary.

1164
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 3: It's the relativity of it when you compare like just

1165
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 3: the way Trump's administrations have been and his like at

1166
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 3: least like even from like the cultural decency or like

1167
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 3: what like like like obviously he is a war criminal

1168
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 3: on an apho, but like Trump still feels worse, Like

1169
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 3: in the moment, Trump feels worse because that's a distant memory.

1170
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 3: So it's like with relativity, I guess it like depends

1171
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 3: on if we like swing back or keep going down

1172
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 3: this path.

1173
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 2: Well, because I'm when you said he was reading your book,

1174
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 2: I was imagining, you know, in the future, him holding

1175
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: your book. And you know what I mean, like you

1176
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 2: know what Trump's actually trying to do better to waiting

1177
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 2: George's book.

1178
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: Well, it is like how Bush, to his credit, if

1179
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: I may, has basically not spoken about politics since he's

1180
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: left office. To me, it's like, if you're one of

1181
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: the worst presidents in history, that is the respectful thing

1182
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: to do. Yes, agreed, at the very least, Like I

1183
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: will give him that, Yeah, and I wonder what, I mean,

1184
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: what if Trump's post presidency is like more Obama like

1185
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: where he's like releasing his favorite books every year playlists.

1186
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's absolutely going to happen.

1187
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: No, it's not he's gonna start, He's gonna No, it's

1188
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,479
Speaker 1: gonna be like truth, Social TV or whatever.

1189
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 3: Sure, for sure, maybe he'll die.

1190
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: I don't know physically if that's gonna happen right now.

1191
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: I feel like it would have happened right now.

1192
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 3: I now you'd think, so do.

1193
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 2: You think Trump would pick a big blanket or a candle? First?

1194
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,720
Speaker 1: I think Trump is very my oasis. I think because

1195
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: I think he's so.

1196
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 3: The White House is he's like the ballroom, the ball

1197
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 3: the ballroom is his oas.

1198
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 2: No.

1199
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 1: Trump is so interiors focused, much more so than any

1200
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 1: like Democrat president that he he has specific aesthetic tastes,

1201
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: more so than anyone else has ever been except for

1202
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: like JACKIEO. Rights, he rivals Jackio only in his attention

1203
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: to aesthetics objectively. Yes, like literally, think of who are

1204
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: the most who are the people with the strongest aesthetic

1205
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 1: I that have been in the White House? Trump and

1206
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: Jackie O?

1207
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: Yes, Wow, Wow, it's horrible taste. But it's a straw.

1208
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 3: But you can see something and know if it would

1209
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 3: be like in his oasis or not. Yeah, you would see,

1210
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 3: you would. We could show you forty nine president or

1211
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 3: how many presidents? Oh yeah, it's because he's twice some

1212
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 3: of the choices, and there are, but you can put

1213
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 3: every president's oasis up and you would know exactly which

1214
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 3: one is Trump's, and you might not know who anyone

1215
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 3: else is.

1216
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: Is, like what is an Obama's oasis? It's literally like

1217
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: save America merg yeah, and then like like a fun

1218
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: you know, Hawaii poster.

1219
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, hidden ash tray yeah yeah, but

1220
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 3: like everybody else, you know, it's just like but you

1221
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 3: would know what Trump's looking like, you would. You would

1222
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 3: know in a heartbeat. You'd scan and be like that's

1223
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 3: what that's his.

1224
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you would know what Bill Clintons looked like.

1225
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: It would Yeah.

1226
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 2: Saxophones, saxophones and just tissues and soft god. Yeah, shout out,

1227
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 2: shout out.

1228
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 1: Then I shout out to all the presidents.

1229
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 2: Shout out to everybody.

1230
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 3: Just a blanket.

1231
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 2: I just yeah, you know, you did it, you ran

1232
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 2: for president and you won. That shit crazy fair and

1233
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: literally so far.

1234
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see what happens in twenty twenty eight.

1235
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be good, but no,

1236
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: probably not. So far, it's been pretty fair and square,

1237
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: with a couple of exceptions that I can think of. Yes, yeah,

1238
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 1: well off the top of the head, but yeah, well

1239
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 1: whatever hanging Chad's remember that. That's when I said the

1240
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: world is unfair? Could have had al Gore?

1241
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 3: Remember how long that cycle lasts? Yes, of just even

1242
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 3: like the jokes still being part of culture, and it's

1243
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 3: like now it's like it's been eight minutes. We really

1244
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 3: need to move on to the next thing.

1245
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think I think about this with

1246
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: like Janna Jackson the super Bowl like these if that

1247
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: happened today, it would be over within twenty seconds.

1248
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 3: Yes, well, well cool, So I guess somethings.

1249
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 2: Are better, somethings are worse. Time is and time is crazy.

1250
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 2: You know, does anything stick now? I'm like literally trying

1251
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 2: to think about like what's stuck?

1252
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: Well, this is one of the eternal questions of this podcast,

1253
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: is like what is monoculture? Right? And I just like Barbenheimer,

1254
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: Barbenheimer stuck brat summer that stuck brat summer. Yeah, Donald Trump.

1255
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 3: He's sticks sticking, just a big three. All right, well America, America.

1256
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 2: Can I say so this is our first podcast recording

1257
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 2: since the new album, of course, yes, and so thank you.

1258
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 2: So we needed to address that, and I guess I

1259
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 2: just want to say, like, is it is that sticking?

1260
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: Obviously in my world it's as though Barack Obama was reelected,

1261
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: But when I hear people talk about it, but I

1262
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: don't think generally speaking, it's sticking in the way that

1263
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: we think it is now.

1264
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel the same way.

1265
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: To me, I'm like a Madonna summer and then you'll

1266
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: talk to people and like, oh I didn't Yeah.

1267
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, the world is different to me. But I think

1268
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 2: we are in such a bubble.

1269
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: I saw a like Women's mag to bring it back

1270
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: to Women's Magazines article that was like, this is one

1271
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: of the best Madonna albums in twenty years, and yet

1272
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: all anyone is talking about is her plastic surgery. And

1273
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, not in my world, and my world everyone

1274
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: is saying she's never looked better and this is the

1275
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: best album in twenty years. Like no one in my

1276
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: world being is having that conversation yea. Yeah.

1277
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 2: Well there's almost something where it's like, well, you're the magazine.

1278
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 2: Change the conversation, thank you, Yes, you're the one talking

1279
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 2: about it. You're talking about it. Yeah, you can just

1280
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 2: say this is the best.

1281
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: And it's the same with The Odyssey. I'm like, yes,

1282
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: people are having conversations that are racist. How about you

1283
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: tell me if the movie is good? Right, right, change

1284
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: the change the conversation.

1285
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 2: You're the media. You're literally the media. Well how about

1286
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 2: your riff on frat topics?

1287
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 3: You know, you call me when you're riffing on fats

1288
00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 3: and then we'll discuss.

1289
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 2: The thing with the Odyssey backlash. There's also just like, yes,

1290
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 2: you can find any conversation on the internet, even if

1291
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 2: it is like this, you can find maybe fifty people

1292
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 2: on Twitter are talking about this. But it's like that's

1293
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 2: only fifty people on Twitter, right, Like in the context

1294
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 2: of how many people are seeing this movie, this is

1295
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 2: not that big of a deal.

1296
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 3: Right, There's kind of like a just because like I

1297
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 3: feel like maybe our generally I always like struggle with

1298
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 3: like what we understand reality to be, like just because

1299
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 3: something is like printed like some on the internet, I

1300
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 3: mean like even like Twitter, Yeah, like, just because it's

1301
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 3: there and you can read it instead of like overhearing

1302
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 3: someone talking doesn't mean it's like more valuable than two

1303
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 3: fucking idiots talking totally.

1304
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: And what's even more frustrating is that because increasingly, as

1305
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: magazines and newspapers have like fewer budgets and there's like

1306
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: fewer resources to do deep reporting, then they will print

1307
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 1: things that two people said on Twitter exactly, thereby making

1308
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: them more legitimate. Yes, and then like, well I did

1309
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: actually read it them in your.

1310
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 3: Time, right, And then somebody shares the New York Times

1311
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 3: ar goals like see, and then it becomes this kind of.

1312
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: Like was it just two people?

1313
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Exactly?

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Speaker 2: Cool?

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Speaker 1: So that's cool.

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01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 2: So media is back.

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01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: It's back in a big way.

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Speaker 2: I love media. I love books. What else? Music?

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Speaker 1: Even well, television I would say not so much currently.

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01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 2: It's actually there's no show in the twenty tens.

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Speaker 1: I love.

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Speaker 2: Oh my God, it was amazing, stream.

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Speaker 1: Breaking bad, stream breaking bad, and buy Allison, Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: do those two things things and listen to Confessions to

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Speaker 1: consis Alison. Any final thoughts on this is my oasis?

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Speaker 3: No, I think we really covered and I feel like

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Speaker 3: it's kind of like we're recording I don't know Where's list,

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Speaker 3: which was an interesting.

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Speaker 1: Not only that, but this room, we've seen it go

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01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: through so many changes. This was this room was kind

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Speaker 1: of like, you know, one of the less amous rooms,

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Speaker 1: I would say in the iHeart offices and New York City.

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01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: During our residency here, it has gotten progressively more beautiful.

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01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: There's plans, there's lighting, there's rugs, there's little mic covers.

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Speaker 3: And it is an oasis.

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Speaker 1: So I feel seen and heard.

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Speaker 2: I feel seen and heard and listen to and safe.

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Speaker 1: Shall we do our final segment?

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Speaker 2: So our final segment is called shout Outs, and this

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01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 2: segment we pie amash the Grand Strait tradition of the

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01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 2: radio shout out, shouting out anything that we enjoy, people, places, things, ideas.

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Speaker 2: Do you have one?

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Speaker 1: I have a serious one that I can do, but

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Speaker 1: I would love if you got serious. I want to

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Speaker 1: give a shout out to the Neurosta Steel albums. So

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01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: this has this crossed your desk at all? Okay? I

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01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 1: think that. So this is this gay guy who's like

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01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: in his sixties, sixties, in his sixties, and these are

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01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: songs that were recorded over the last like four decades

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01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: and basically like, you know, people got together and they

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01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: were like, let's kind of like curate this Centrol album. Okay,

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01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: and it just sounds like the most amazing kind of

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01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: like mixtape of eighties and nineties New York, kind of

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01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 1: like cool club tracks. It's incredible, and it like came

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01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. He has like not that everything is followers,

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01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: but like I won on his has less than like

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01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: five thousand followers. It's just like a he and it

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01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: just came out. It got this amazing Pitchfork review. Everyone's

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01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: talking about it. I think there's like a it actually

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01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: feels very kind of old school word of mouth popularity

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01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: like and so I think it's a nice antidoteor media

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01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: conversation that's something like that can happen.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so there you're whoo. It's called skyscraper. Yes,

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01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 2: what's up everyone around the globe? Freak losers, perverts. I

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01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 2: want to give a huge shout out to sort of

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01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 2: like pitchforks whole deal. I'm sort of confused on what

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01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 2: your whole deal is, but we don't have any sort

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01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 2: of you know, reputable music review website anymore. So I'm

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01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 2: sort of like, I guess this is the best we've

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01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 2: got totally, and so I do look at it in

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01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 2: this way of like scientifically, like what is the culture?

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01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 2: Like what are we talking about? And I found it

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Speaker 2: interesting that they gave Confessions Too and Kalala's album both

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01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 2: eight point one but not Best New Music, which you

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01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 2: know you what this means, I don't know, but I

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01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 2: was grateful that it was equal because I felt like

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01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 2: my two girls were like, at least it's fair. My

1379
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 2: two girls are both equal, so no one can get upset,

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01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 2: And I was like, thank god, no one's fighting right now.

1381
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 2: We're all just coming together. And the fact that they

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01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 2: get a slight bit of underdog status of not having

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01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 2: best new music, I think is beautiful because then gay

1384
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 2: guys can be psychotic about them still, and I think

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01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 2: the fact that they got an eight point one is

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01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 2: still quite respectful, weirdly the perfect school. And so I'm

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01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 2: saying thank you to the team over there at Pitchfork.

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01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 2: You are doing some interesting problem solving and you are

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01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 2: making it so that we aren't fighting. And I am

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01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 2: glad that Madonna and Kalela are respected and I love

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01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 2: both of those albums. So shout out to everyone the team.

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Speaker 1: Xoxo Sam, Wow, my Alison, Hey, ladies.

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01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 2: And then.

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Speaker 3: I would like to recommend as a lifelong get up

1395
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 3: early to go to the beach or pool and do

1396
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 3: early day beach pools so you could be there all day,

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01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 3: go to the go in the afternoon. I'm going to

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01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 3: the pool in the after I mean, I live very

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01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 3: close to a pool, but I'm going. I'm not going

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01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 3: at eleven every day. Okay, sometimes I'm going at four.

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01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 3: I'm doing my hour. At four, I'm hanging out the

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01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 3: pool and then you're done and it's happy hour and

1403
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 3: you can enjoy and you weren't like you got stuff done,

1404
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 3: like even the beach, like going just go at two.

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01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 3: It's fine. You don't have to get up when the

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01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 3: sun comes up because your mom thinks you need to

1407
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 3: be more tan. It's fine. You don't have to get

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01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 3: eight hours of sunlight.

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01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: You can just completely go.

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01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 3: Go in the afternoon is my new going to places

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01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 3: of the afternoon.

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01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 2: I'm right there with you.

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01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: Also, like waking up, sending literally three emails just to

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01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: be like, well I did some work, yeah, yeah, and

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01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 1: then having a nice piece of toast and yeah, then

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01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: maybe doing a quick ten minutes on the treadmill. Maybe

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01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: you're saying, okay, well I basically did everything. Yeah, now

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01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: I deserved.

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01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 3: I worked and it's time to go sit.

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01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 2: Also not having to worry about getting sunburned if you

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01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 2: go too late.

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01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 3: It's yeah, right, and then like the sun starts going down.

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01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 3: It's kind of like a golden hour if you're trying.

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01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 2: To yes and you're like this is only mine, like

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01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 2: everyone else is going home and you're like bye. Yeah,

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01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 2: real beach has know that it's still valid to be

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01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 2: here when the sun's going down. In fact, there's something

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01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 2: nice about it.

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01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 1: Well because the morning is always more capitalist. Yes, of course,

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01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: you know, Golden hour. That's for the real kind of

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01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 1: lounge loungey girls.

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01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's for the artists. That's for the artists.

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01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 2: That's for the artists.

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01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: Wow, we've covered so much.

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01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 2: I know I really did. Thanks for doing the pod.

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01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: Thanks for such a treat, and I hope that for

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01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: some people out there we can be eu oasis you

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01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: are Yeah, yeah, all right. By Allison's book, see us

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01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: on tour and again, please stream Breaking.

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01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 2: Bad please seriously guys watched Breaking Bad Bye podcast and now.

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Speaker 2: Stradio Lab is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money

1443
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 2: Players and iHeartRadio podcasts created.

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01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: And hosted by Sam Taggart and George Severes.

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01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 2: Executive produced by Becca Ramos, Produced by Casey Donahue

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Speaker 1: Edited a mixed by Laurence Stump social video done by

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Speaker 1: Hot Dog Sandwich