1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Yoh, it's the Rap Raid our podcast. My name is 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Beatott Elliott Wilson. 3 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: What a week we've had Elliott every week is special. Man. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 3: But I saw y'allut Atlanta. Man, he's out there getting 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 3: your revolted. I'm mad Revolt. He was a vaulting Yeah. 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 3: I was out there for the Revolt world. It's not 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 3: the Revolt summits Revoke world. 8 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: This year, I had hosted the panel on the Greatest 9 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: Rappers of All Time. It was called a Great Debate. 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: It was with myself, Trina Simba, and the homie Rob 11 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: Markman and it was a great time. 12 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: Man. 13 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 3: I heard, Yeah, Symbol was out here criticizing emdem Man. 14 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 3: I went to get a white boy to credit man, 15 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 3: come on, man, Wasshington mathis man. 16 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think I believe the eminem hate 17 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: that you know he's been receiving late. It's just the 18 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: internet thing because when Simber made those comments, the whole 19 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: crowd it was a packed through maybe about five hundred 20 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: people or so, everyone like gas that started jeering him. Really, 21 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I love it now. The fourth 22 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: video is gonna come out soon, but it was it 23 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: was a great time. 24 00:00:58,520 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 4: Man. 25 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: You know, I love a spirited conversation about hip hop, 26 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: so yeah, simbls my guy. 27 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: But I definitely, you know, I hate the. 28 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 3: Bandwagon of trying to bash him and them and all 29 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: that type of stuff. But it's funny, like, so basically 30 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: your list, thing that you've created years ago because continues 31 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 3: to get the people going, and they literally gave you 32 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: a platform on the Revolt stage to bring your madness, 33 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 3: your list to the to the. 34 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: Forefront for debate only in America. 35 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: Did we land on the same thing that Jays is 36 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 3: the greatest MC of all time? 37 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 2: And we land on that? 38 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the you know what's funny, It was 39 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: almost unanimous. But Trina through a curveball that had someone 40 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: else that's her number one? Uh oh she had she 41 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: had Missy Elliott. Oh wow, I saw Tierra Wack was 42 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: big up Missy too, So yeahs So it was again, 43 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: it was a great conversation. I had a great time 44 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: in Revolt, met a lot of people, a lot of 45 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: rap rated off fans out there. So we still hot 46 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: out there on the streets, were still hot. Yeah, they 47 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: still fucking with us. Elliott, did your. 48 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 3: Fuck with Drake though? What was Drake on this list 49 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: man speaking of one of the big ones out there. Man, 50 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: what is usually Drake fit on this list? 51 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: Everyone had their individual list, but I think I had 52 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: Drake at like number six or seven or something like that. 53 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: Gotta check, but everyone had him on their list at 54 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: some point. 55 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: Okay, what do you think of Drake's to some man? 56 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: I heard Leonard I got challow it doesn't like it, man, 57 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 3: look at Drake is Chalot Shalaby trying to take the 58 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 3: heat off meat out. He's going back at it with 59 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 3: Drake again a little beef. 60 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: I love it, Yeah, I mean I don't. It's not 61 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: really for me. I couldn't really connect with it. I 62 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: think it's okay, but I don't know if that's going 63 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: to make the final cut for the Dogs. But I'm 64 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: looking forward to the album as a whole. 65 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna. 66 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: Slimming you out. You know that's slimming you out. You 67 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: know into that that's cool. But you know, I'm not 68 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: the biggest proponent of R and B Drake and he 69 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: knows that. 70 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: You know. 71 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: I like it when Drake goes in on my time 72 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: stamp records, you know, when he's popping his shit, like 73 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: middle of the Ocean though that's my version of Drake 74 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 1: I like, but I do like records like Jungle. That's 75 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: like my favorite version of that R and B chamber 76 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: that he has. But I'm looking forward to the album. 77 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: It's always an event when Drake drops. So it sounds 78 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: like you might have started shotowing me up in that chat, y'all. 79 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 4: Be on. 80 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 81 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 3: You had that group chat, group chat, that group chat. 82 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,559 Speaker 3: You had the group chat, tell him it's a rap. 83 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: Like I said, a lot of people was fucking with 84 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: the episode, man, and they also loving uh the Teaso 85 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: touchdown when I was in. 86 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out was a good one for us. 87 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 3: Man. I thought he's real cool like you said he was. 88 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: He was, he said the people in the comments and 89 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 3: his I G was sending the link to the interview. 90 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: He was so proud of it. I appreciate that, man. 91 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 3: That was a different level of promo. Man shout to 92 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 3: him and as his manager. Yeah, man, that was great. 93 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: It's funny everyone that keeps having the same question like 94 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 3: how does he sleep with his hair? 95 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: Nails? The hair? 96 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: And I'm like, yo, man, he does what he has 97 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: to do. But you know, I think It's funny. You 98 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: can't judge a rapping by his appearance, I guess, because 99 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: you know, at first when you see him, it's like, 100 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, it was this pin head looking guy, right, 101 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: but then we listened to him, he's like really articulate, 102 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: thoughtful and like he's, like he said, pretty seriously, he's 103 00:03:58,920 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: the studio of the game. 104 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's definitely a cool juxtaposition. Yeah, it's not 105 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: a character. 106 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: You expecting me some type of character, but he's actually 107 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 3: a road since here a person and explaining how to 108 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: explain himself and very articulate and tell it's very you know, 109 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 3: very earnest and like smart and you know, definitely was 110 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 3: impressed by him. And the hard thing was we did 111 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: the railway right be that we did a back to back. 112 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: We take that the same day as today's episode. 113 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: Man, it was a special episode for thirty eight Special Man. 114 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: You know, he showed love to the underground and the 115 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: overground man. 116 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: Look at the rage, Man, he's a touchdown at thirty 117 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 3: eight special Man. I didn't think he could be done. Man, 118 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 3: look at the reach. 119 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: Yeah thirty eight specially, he's been doing this thing for 120 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: a long time. I got hip to him maybe about 121 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven maybe yeah, yeah, And you know, 122 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: he's probably one of the most prolific artists out in 123 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: the game. He released his albums like almost every other month, 124 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: give or take if he's not wrapping himself with producing. 125 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: So he's he's earned stripes. And now he has his 126 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: new album with Conway. 127 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: The Machine. 128 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Specially was a special machinery. 129 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: Special Machinery Special Machine. 130 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: Like that title. 131 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: That title is very smart. 132 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know. 133 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 3: Specially went back to like Greenland and discovering the man, 134 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: back to like ex excel days. He started rapping and stuff. 135 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 3: But he continues to grow and gets better man. Like 136 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 3: you said, I mean I think that like when we 137 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 3: did Like Ransom, I felt like, yeah, we're gonna do 138 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: special one day. And he obviously wanted to be on 139 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 3: the program for a long time, but I feel like 140 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: finally the timing was right. 141 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, you know, Tomming is everything, and you know, 142 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: I saw him at Soob's a couple of months back, 143 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: and you know it's like, Yo, you know, we gotta 144 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: do song really, you know, Trus trust, I'm like, yo, 145 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: you know, when the timing is right, we're gonna get 146 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: to it. You know, he dropped an album early this year, 147 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: but you know, with us having a great conversation on Conway, 148 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: I think it's only right that we talked to him now. 149 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 3: Finally, finally man for the maw core fans Man special Man. 150 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 3: Like we said, we cover all, we call all sides 151 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 3: of the culture. Man do the underground main street. 152 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: I mean it's only right. Man. 153 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: We got rained kid except except female fcs. But we 154 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: can't get sexy read on the proce sea. I feel 155 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: double down the ig love beat out man with the 156 00:05:59,000 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 3: sexy read out. 157 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 2: Here, come on man, Jesus Christ. 158 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: And on that note, the producers in you years has 159 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: right now we have to change the topic here and 160 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: on that dope man, get ready tap in thirty eight Special, 161 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 3: thirty eight special. 162 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: Trust Man, trust me to got the best podcast out 163 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: here Man trust on the rap rate of podcast. 164 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, wrap right up podcast. 165 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: Elliott Wilson's name is beat out that what's up? 166 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 2: Baby? 167 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: Gotta trust the process man. 168 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 3: Finally time, Yes, Sir, thirty eight Special the Rap Right 169 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 3: Up Podcast. 170 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: Let's it go Man, It's like it's been a long 171 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: time coming. 172 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 4: Definitely been a long time man. Definitely happy to have 173 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 4: you here? 174 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 2: Man? Happy to be here, Man, word up. 175 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: But it's for a good occasion because we have this 176 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: new album. Definitely special machinery. You and Conway the machine. 177 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: Great title over the title. 178 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 4: Shout out to my boy Jordan Commando. Man, he like 179 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 4: handle all of my internal stuff for the label. That 180 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 4: was his idea. Oh no, okay, team Yeah, shout out 181 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 4: to the team. 182 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: When did you realize that you and conw we need 183 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: to lock in for a full album? 184 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: Yo. 185 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 4: To be honest with you, man, me and Kan been 186 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 4: working for a while, and shit, you know what I'm saying. 187 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 4: It's just it was time for us to lock back in. 188 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 4: It's a minute to go back. And like I say, 189 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 4: probably like over ten years ago, we was out in 190 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 4: Atlanta and recorded a bunch of songs and I ended 191 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 4: up losing the computer that them songs was in. 192 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: We had. 193 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, seriously, we already had about ten songs, and shit, 194 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 4: we was locked in for a little minute, and I 195 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 4: always knew we had to revisit and shit, we always 196 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, So that was doubt about. 197 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: We got back together and put that together. What happened 198 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: to the computer? Long story? Man moving around a lot? Man, 199 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: you know what, I'm any of the boss not one 200 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: ball man for real. 201 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that'd be crazy because when I record, I don't 202 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 4: really like take the music with me to memorize it. 203 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 4: I keep it in the computer so it stay new. 204 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 205 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: Damn, you don't write the bars downsall the year basically for. 206 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: The album debut at number one on iTunes too. 207 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: Right, definitely up to the fans and the supporters. How 208 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: beautiful was that for you? That was fired? 209 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 4: That was my first time number one on iTunes? And shit, 210 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 4: you know I was number. 211 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: Two last year with seven shots. You know what I'm saying, 212 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: we're number one now we're playing on staying there. You 213 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. 214 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: But you don't a lot of collaborative projects, like what 215 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 3: do you think is a secret? Like when you get 216 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: with like a fellow spiter, like, what's what's the what's 217 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: the secret to. 218 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: Make that secret? Is this man? 219 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 4: Listen to all the producers out there, y'all never gonna 220 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,559 Speaker 4: get what I get out the rappers because the rapper 221 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 4: know that it's thirty especially behind the Balls. 222 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: That's that's recorded, okay, produced by Dirty Best, the special 223 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 3: char So you. 224 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 4: Gotta realize when I'm standing there lockering in with a rapper, 225 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 4: you know I'm nice. These rappers know I'm nice, so 226 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 4: they coming with their best, you know what I'm saying. 227 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 4: So whenever I sit and I'll collabor with a rapper, 228 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 4: y'all could expect them to bring the ship, you know 229 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. 230 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: Did you and Conwic could record together? Because I know 231 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: you did Son of g Rapp with Cougie Rapps. 232 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 4: So what happened with this project is that I had 233 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 4: locked in when conn and had them record all his 234 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 4: verses except one, the last joint that he's saying, which 235 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 4: as the title track. So I was sitting on all 236 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 4: those Conway verses. There was actually the different beats. We 237 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 4: recorded this like four years ago, so he wasn't sure 238 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 4: how this album was going to turn out, you know 239 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And then I went in revisited it, 240 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, and reproduced everything, you know, 241 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 4: and here we go. 242 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 3: He said it to him, He was just like you, yeah, 243 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: hell yeah, So he gotta trust you. 244 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: So it's more like you leading the whole process of 245 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 2: Definitely I curated the whole project. You know what I'm 246 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: saying the whole sound of it. 247 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 4: Like I said, when he recorded, he recorded verses and 248 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 4: it was all over different beats at the time, So 249 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 4: you know, actually the intro to the track, we wasn't 250 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 4: even going back and forth. I cut up one of 251 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 4: his verses and then wrote in between it and made 252 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 4: it connect. 253 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 2: A scientist man, I'm like, yeah, in fact though, because 254 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: it feels like you was in both. 255 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 4: I felt like we was back and forth, but and 256 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 4: I had to get creative with it, you know what 257 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 258 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 2: So I actually chopped up his verse. 259 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 4: And then I just rolled in between the connected like 260 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 4: a puzzle. Yeah, that's why that's special to me. 261 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: You've done albums with Conway now and Benny the Butcher. 262 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 4: Shout out to Ben definitely, like you know, the whole 263 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 4: Upstate movement, you know what I'm saying. 264 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: Me and Ben started off a while ago. Yeah, you 265 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. 266 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 4: So, hell yeah, Stabbing Shot Me and Ben got part 267 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 4: two still on the way, y'all. 268 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, and that's still on 269 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: the way. 270 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 4: They seen Special Machinery and they think I forgot about 271 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 4: Stabbing Shot. Now that's coming, Okay, that's something special for y'all. 272 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 4: Trust me, y'all gonna appreciate that when it comes. 273 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: Are the similarities of differences working with Conway and Benny. 274 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: It's similarities then it's difference to see, you know. 275 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 4: With with with Ben, me and Ben, I say, got 276 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 4: more of a chemistry we step in, We kind of 277 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 4: like one you know what I'm saying, Like it's like, 278 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 4: you know, our chemistry is like we've been working together 279 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 4: so so much, you know what I'm saying that our 280 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 4: chemistry is a little more like one person when we get. 281 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: Together, you know what I mean. Me and Conway, we 282 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 2: just got like a dope, you know, dope as recording 283 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: formal and. 284 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 3: Shit, you know what he speaks to that foundation with 285 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 3: Beny for people that may not know, like how you 286 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 3: signed him. 287 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: And then before it kind of the result of thing 288 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: really took off. Well yeah, back and on. 289 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 4: Probably twenty fourteen, when I was first starting the Trust movement, 290 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 4: I signed a bunch of talent from the area, the 291 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 4: people that was the best in the areas upstate, yeah 292 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 4: and up there. You know, I kind of like had 293 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 4: that area, you know, in a smash and me and 294 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 4: Ben prior to that already had a relationship from me 295 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 4: recording out of DJ Shade Studio, So you know, I 296 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 4: told Ben it just made sense that he, you know, 297 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 4: joined the team and then we just started, you know, 298 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 4: we just formed and started putting music together. You know, 299 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 4: during that point of time, we were just doing a 300 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 4: period of passion. I really ain't understand the Ben inside 301 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 4: of things, you know what I'm saying. So it wasn't 302 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 4: really too much of a way to monetize off of it. 303 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 4: So I kind of like, you know, what would be 304 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 4: inconsistent due to having to. 305 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 2: Provide and of a way. 306 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 4: So with that, you know, then he always kept working 307 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 4: regardless of whatever situation it was, and I credit him 308 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 4: for that, and you know that's how he was able 309 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 4: to you know, take off when he got with the 310 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 4: Griselda movement because he never stopped working, you know what 311 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 4: I'm saying. And then I came back like, yo, I'm 312 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 4: ready to work, and then that's when we did stab 313 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 4: and shot, and then I never stopped working from him. 314 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 3: I know, like from twenty twenty to twenty twenty two, 315 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 3: you didn't put nothing out because fact came back twenty 316 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 3: twenty two, fat like you hit your career arc right there. 317 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, that was crazy, Yeah, that was crazy, And shit, 318 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 4: I did take a little break during that little COVID shit. 319 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 4: You know, year twenty and twenty, I put out like 320 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 4: fourteen albums and shit that I actually produced and wrapped 321 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 4: on and shit. So you know, after that, I you know, 322 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 4: I took a little break, and then I came back 323 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 4: with Seven Shots, and. 324 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: You know, people responded to that. 325 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, what he did was about 326 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 3: that project that really kind of took you to another level. 327 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 4: I think it was time and climbing the music and 328 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 4: actual me really displaying my lyrical ability, you know what 329 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like it was able to really be displayed 330 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 4: during that climbate of music. 331 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 332 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 4: Now people really see like, you know, like I was 333 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 4: like the underdog, underrated, you know. You know, now they 334 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 4: see like, oh shit, you know, this guy might be 335 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 4: better than everybody. 336 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: But that's the buzz beyond, because I feel like I 337 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 3: grew up to the era where it's like the as 338 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 3: the rappers got older, they kind of fell off. Right now, 339 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 3: it seems like guys get Sharper the boss. 340 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's crazy, that's really what it is, man, And 341 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 4: I see that with myself. 342 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 2: You know what it is. 343 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 4: It's just come more experienced, more understanding in yourself, learning 344 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 4: how to actually express yourself more. 345 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: When you're young, you're still learning yourself, you know what 346 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 347 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 4: So we get sharper as we get older with the 348 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 4: kind of music that we make, because the kind of 349 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 4: music that we make is for grown folks, you understand. 350 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 4: So you know that's what we do. When I take 351 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 4: little breaks, I take little breaks to live life, to 352 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 4: gain content, come back and you know what I'm saying, 353 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 4: because we're speaking from real life experiences. 354 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, really taking no breaks this 355 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: year because this is your second album. 356 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 4: That's a fact. This is the second album Smoke. Yeah, 357 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 4: shout out the gun Smoke, Smoke intro. Yeah, that's my ship, right, 358 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 4: I love gun Smoke. 359 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: Man. It was like a surprise project for me. 360 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 4: I just hopped in the studio and just recorded it 361 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 4: like in a couple of days and put it out 362 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 4: and I got good responses for it. You know what 363 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 4: I'm saying. I'm very proud. I'm proud of every project 364 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 4: that I put out. You know, I'm passionate. I'm giving 365 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 4: a piece of my life in every project. So it's 366 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 4: you know, you could get to know me more more, 367 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 4: you know every project that you know I put out. 368 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 369 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: I know you're really proud of this independence. Like even 370 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: on the intro of a special machinery, you say independence is. 371 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: A true reward. That's a fact, you know. 372 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: And I read that you made over a million bucks 373 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: independently in less than a year. 374 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: That's what they said. 375 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 4: Independent is the way to go. Man, I realize it. Man, 376 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 4: ain't nothing like freedom. 377 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: You know. 378 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 4: A person can't give me no amount of money to 379 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 4: take away my freedom. You know, it ain't even about 380 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 4: me how much money I make. You know that saw 381 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 4: a relative. It's about me being able to actually do 382 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 4: whatever I want to do when I want to do it, 383 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 4: and be able to support myself. 384 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: But how did you do it? How are you able 385 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: to maintain this lifestyle? 386 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: Dough? 387 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 4: Independence actually just fighting out who I'm talking to and 388 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 4: completely providing them. I provide a service to a certain 389 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 4: demographic and I just feed them. It took me a 390 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 4: while to figure out who they was. See, that was 391 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 4: the problem. I was rapping for everybody at first, because 392 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 4: I like all music. So if I heard this music 393 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 4: from this you know area, and I was vibing to it, 394 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 4: I would rap on those kind of beats. If I 395 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 4: heard it from over here, I would rap just because 396 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 4: I could. But that don't mean that's what I was 397 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 4: supposed to do. See, I had to figure out what 398 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 4: service I was providing a narrow win and just completely 399 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 4: provide that service. And then you know, that's how I 400 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 4: was able to establish myself. You know, when people come 401 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 4: to me, they know what they gonna get, as opposed 402 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 4: to me just doing everything, you know what I'm saying. 403 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 4: So once I narrowed in and realized who I'm aiming 404 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 4: for and learn how to get to them, that's all 405 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 4: I did, and then they took care of me. 406 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 407 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 3: What do you consider that sound? Is that sound like 408 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 3: an East Coast hard or underground sound? 409 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 4: It's more, it's a mixture. It's definitely East Coast, you 410 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Lyrical with a mixture of pain 411 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 4: and just believability, you know what I'm saying, Just authenticity, 412 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 4: you know, so they you know, like for my fans 413 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 4: that's been following me. You know, they see me go, 414 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 4: you know, deal with life. So you know, with me 415 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 4: dealing with life, you know and still able to recover, 416 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 4: you know, they look for me for goddance like you know, 417 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 4: and that's what I'm here for, like you know, so 418 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 4: that's why I make the grown music, you. 419 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: Know what I mean? 420 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: Talk about dealing with life in one of your standout tracks, venting, right, 421 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: you say, you like you like you lost a lot 422 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: dealing with this business, having to sell your jewelry back 423 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: to your friends and things like that. 424 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 2: Fact, can you talk about that journey, that struggle. 425 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 4: That's that street shit, like you know, some shit that 426 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 4: happens in the streets, like you know, we we we 427 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 4: run around in the streets. 428 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: We acquire things that's never really all the way off. 429 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 4: Like when we in the streets, everything that we have 430 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 4: can be taken away from us. I'm a person that 431 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 4: you know, been outside for a while, experience a lot. 432 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 4: So you know, the Venting track is just a testimony 433 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 4: of you know, me going through things and overcoming it. 434 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 435 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: That seems to be like the signature signature songs like 436 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: you have Venting Venting two. 437 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 2: Is it gonna be a venting three. 438 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 4: Evening three is coming because you know, life keep lifing, 439 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So you know it's those 440 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 4: things problem. 441 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got this some kind of problems now, you 442 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. But definitely been three coming, man, 443 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Facts. But what's going on Upstate? Man? 444 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: Between you, Griselda Stove, God Cooks, shade the wall. It 445 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: feels like Upstate is really having this movement, this movement 446 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: in this moment at the same time, like. 447 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 4: Man, it's just due man. You know, we from rapping motherfuckers. Man, 448 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 4: Like we wrap like you know what I'm saying, and 449 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 4: bring the best out of each other and ship and 450 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 4: you know, we just stay true to that ship and 451 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 4: like I said, you know, it's just providing that service. 452 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 4: Were the ones you gotta come to for it now, 453 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 4: you know. 454 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? Because we grew up like about the Burrows, right, Like, 455 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 2: was that competitive to you? Coming out? All that was competitive? Man? 456 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: The Burrows thought we had coyles and horses. 457 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 4: We had coyles and horses and ship, you know, which 458 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 4: is understandable because when you hop on them expressways and 459 00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 4: you look over and you think this. 460 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 2: Is what these other cities look like. Yeah, not knowing 461 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: these other cities as crazy as fuck. Right, you know 462 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 463 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 4: I'm just happy we were able to get a chance to 464 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 4: tell our story, you know what I'm saying, because I. 465 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 5: Didn't realize it was all the way back to fellow 466 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 5: Rochester native. 467 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: Green Landing right like from nine. I'm still a double 468 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 2: excel like you was doing it then. 469 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, back then, I used to carry Green crates in 470 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 4: the club. I see, this is how it started with Green. 471 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 4: Shout out to Green like Green heard a beat I 472 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 4: made at sixteen years old and was like a sixteen 473 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 4: year old mad that beat. I need to meet him. 474 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 4: He got a great here, he got a great Yeah. 475 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 4: So you know, shout out to Green man. I came 476 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 4: up watching Green and shit, I picked up a lot 477 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 4: of little production tips from him and just like creative 478 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 4: tips from him and shit, you know what I'm saying, 479 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 4: Like how to start a project and finish a project, 480 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 4: you know, to make it? Have that, you know what 481 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 4: I'm saying. You know, Yeah, shout out to Greenlander. You 482 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 4: been doing this for a long time. 483 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: I saw you tweeted once you say you started rapping 484 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: at seven, producing at fifteen. Facts, I started selling crack 485 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: at eleven. 486 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 2: This is a fact. 487 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: But you wrap it at seven. You remember your first round? 488 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, my first run, man, my first run and shit, yeah, man, 489 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 4: you know I don't spit it before man on another joint. 490 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 4: I ain't gonna spit it again because it's kind of 491 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 4: dated and ship. Shout out to my older brother and shit, 492 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 4: he was the one that you know, helped me scribe it. 493 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 4: I used to look up the older brother and I'll 494 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 4: rip p and shit the older bro. You know what 495 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 4: I'm saying, Love a boy, but love a boy helped 496 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 4: me write my first rap at seven years old, me 497 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 4: wanting to be like big bro. From then on, it 498 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 4: stuck with me. That was my form of getting attention, 499 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. They used to They used 500 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 4: to actually stop the class in second grade and be like, YO, listen, 501 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 4: if y'all kids used to ask a teacher, yo, could 502 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 4: you let him rap? Like if y'all be good, y'all 503 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 4: be good. I get up there rock shit, you know. 504 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 4: Second grade? Shit, second grade. But your dad was a 505 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 4: DJ too, though rs he was, and shit, so I 506 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 4: grew up, you know, around records, digging crates and ship. 507 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 4: Pops was a DJ. That's another thing I took in. 508 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 4: Pops was a Pops was a DJ, but it was 509 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 4: his side hustle. You know, he went to work every day, 510 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 4: but on the weekends he was always booked, like book 511 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 4: six months in vance. 512 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: So I used to watch him, you know, have his dates. Sometime. 513 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 4: He would bring me in my bro with him to 514 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 4: his gigs and shit, let my bro if it's a 515 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 4: younger crowd, hold it down and shit. You know, he 516 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 4: kind of pruning us to be DJs and shit. But 517 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 4: you know I took the music shit to somewhere else, right, right. 518 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: So that was kind of like your foundation, your dad 519 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: just exposing you to all these different styles of music. 520 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it was really my brother with the writing. 521 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 4: My Pops just had a place that we could go 522 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 4: and cultivate it, you know what I'm saying, right. 523 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: But producing at fifteen, Like when did that come about? 524 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 4: Shout out to my homie DC Man. I started out 525 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 4: me going to different studios back in the days. The 526 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 4: older drug dealers knew I was talented. They would pay 527 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 4: for studio time and have me come there and I 528 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 4: would teach them how to like count. 529 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 2: Their balls and how to fam out a song and 530 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: daring me doing that. 531 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 4: I got introduced to the NPC, and you know, I 532 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 4: started making beats on it at like fifteen, and I 533 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 4: still make beats on it machine to this day, the 534 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 4: same one, not the same one, more upgraded version. 535 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 2: But I'm an MPC guy. That's your weapon of choice, 536 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 2: that's my choice, you know what I'm saying. 537 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, I started young with that shit. I 538 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 4: started young. I always had the talent, but it was 539 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 4: a passion thing. It wasn't like nothing about no money. 540 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 4: Just was passion, you know what I'm saying, And no 541 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 4: way to really exploit the talent because we're so far 542 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 4: from anything with opportunity, right five six hours away from 543 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 4: a big city. 544 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 2: So it don't matter how nice you was, you know 545 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 546 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: And you know you use it to get out of 547 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: trouble because I read that you was on house arrest. 548 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: I definitely was at fifteen. That's when you started, really, 549 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:42,479 Speaker 1: that's when I started. 550 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 4: That's when I learned how to actually like play with 551 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 4: keys and orchestrate notes. That was before the NPC, you know, 552 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 4: at about fourteen fifteen, when they had me in the 553 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 4: house for like five months on house arrest. 554 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: I had a keyboard and then. 555 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 4: I used That's when I started figuring what notes and 556 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 4: what sounds go with, what how. 557 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 2: To orchestrate sounds. 558 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 4: I learned sequencing when I got my hands on the NPC, 559 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 4: but I already was familiar with chords and sounds, you 560 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So by the time I was 561 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 4: sixteen and green Landard heard a beat I made, he 562 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 4: was blown away. 563 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 2: The facts has been more events than Yeah. 564 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: What producers were you like looking up to? 565 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 4: Definitely Primo, you know shout out the prem back then, 566 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 4: and shit, man, I was just Blaze Bank definitely. You 567 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. It was always a Bink fan 568 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 4: and shit, you know Dre from the Chronic era. Man, 569 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 4: you know, I just love good music, man, Yeah, I 570 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 4: just love good music. 571 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: I heard the rumor that you and Binker are doing 572 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: something together too. 573 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 4: Definitely, Man, we got some music in the stash, man 574 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 4: me Bink and Ran So we got some music in 575 00:23:58,560 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 4: a stud. 576 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: Ash You heard that might be Kevin Durant related, Yeah, man, 577 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,719 Speaker 2: k you heard the same room behind man KD been 578 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 2: wearing his executive hat. Man, you know he got an 579 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 2: ear though. I was gonna say, is there a bigger 580 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 2: Dirty eight specch fan th Kevin Durant out here? 581 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 5: Man be a bigger one? 582 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, he fuck with me, hogged Man. 583 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 4: No good music, So he got a good ear, you 584 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, like a real good It surprised me. 585 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 2: How how how you know how in tune? He is? 586 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 2: What did your first connect ship man? 587 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 4: Sometime after I dropped seven Shots, but he was already 588 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 4: a fan. 589 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: Ran had told me. 590 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 4: Ryan had told me because they was talking and he 591 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 4: was like, Yoka, the fucking with you hogged And I'm like, 592 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 4: oh word? 593 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 2: And then so he do Ransom first? 594 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess I don't. I don't know how. Yeah, 595 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 4: he was already talking to Ran. He was already in 596 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 4: touch with Ran. Yeah, and I guess he you know, 597 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 4: Ran told me like, you know something, fuck with you heavy, 598 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And then that's how that 599 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 4: ship started, you know, shout out to my boy Ransom. 600 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 3: But it might be a business thing where you guys 601 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 3: figure out how to yeah you up and make something 602 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:03,959 Speaker 3: special for the culture. 603 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 4: Definitely, you know, we putting some players together, you know 604 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, definitely shout out to Shout out to 605 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 4: k d Uncle, my boy vdo that whole team over there, 606 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 607 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: Definitely another basketball player, Lebron James. 608 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 2: Shout out to Lebron. 609 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: You might be number two, Kevin Dur number one, Lebron's 610 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: number two. 611 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fire, right, I started that. Yeah, that's that's 612 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,719 Speaker 4: kind of fire. Yeah, shout out to Lebron James. 613 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 2: Man. 614 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, he just I don't know if he just got 615 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 4: got put on or something then or not, because he 616 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 4: it was one week he posted me four times, four times. 617 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 4: He was going crazy. Wow, he posted me like four times. 618 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 4: Listen to and a whip he was working out. I'm like, yeah, 619 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 4: you know, he was in a whip a couple of times. 620 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 4: The last time he had this, he spit word for word. 621 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 4: He's up to seven shots again and it's crazy because 622 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 4: he spit something from twenty nineteen. 623 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 2: Wow. Wow. So with that video, y'all see Lebron rapping 624 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: my shit. 625 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 4: That's a song that came out in twenty nineteen with 626 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 4: me and Fred the Golson called empty Place. 627 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 2: I go get that that. 628 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 4: Let y'all know empty Plates, So that let y'all know 629 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 4: you know, stay true to your ship, see it, don't 630 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 4: follow trends. Good music, Like I said, I made that 631 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 4: four years ago, prior to Lebron rapping it. 632 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 2: It's good music, you know what I'm saying. 633 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 4: So you know that that just show you know, just 634 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 4: because the song ain't get heard yet or it ain't take. 635 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 2: Off, does it mean that it ain't good. 636 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 4: You know, when it gets to when a person hear 637 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 4: it and it's good music, they're gonna appreciate it. 638 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 2: So it's just about keeping making good music, all right. 639 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: Have you connected with Lebron yet? 640 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 4: Nah? I ain't connect with Lebron Yoh man, you know 641 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 4: I'm a catching No, I'm catching this shit, Lebron Holler 642 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 4: at me. 643 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 2: Man. 644 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 3: You know, but back to the substance ement, I'm like, 645 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 3: you're still not afraid to be like not critical of 646 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 3: the kind of the state of things right like outside 647 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 3: of what you guys do the spit, it's like there's 648 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 3: not enough of a balance. 649 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: I guess you feel it's a culture right now. Of course, 650 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I love all music. I 651 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 2: know that music. 652 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 4: You know, it's all about mood, and I don't feel 653 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 4: the same way all day. Sometime I might want to 654 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 4: feel like going to the club and I need somebody 655 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 4: to provide that service. I might be with my lady 656 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 4: and I want somebody to provide myself that service. So 657 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 4: you got to realize, like I love all music, I 658 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 4: just know the service that I provide. 659 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: You also provide a lot of great advice. Man, You're 660 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 1: the reason why Ransom came out of retirement. 661 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 4: Shout out, that's what he told us. Hey, man, that's 662 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 4: the truth. 663 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 2: Man. 664 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like it only took it 665 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 4: only took one conversation. It wasn't like one conversation. Ransom 666 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 4: was back one hundred miles perower. 667 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 2: But what made you put that bug in his ear? Though? 668 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 4: Because he was too good of a rapper not to 669 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 4: be putting out music. And I knew why he wasn't 670 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 4: putting out music because I went through those same type 671 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 4: of you know, you kind of get frustrated with the 672 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 4: way that this industry was, especially not being able to 673 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 4: monetize off your talent. 674 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: So that'll discourage you. 675 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 4: So I had to spread the word that it was 676 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 4: ways we could monetize just off doing what we do, 677 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 4: you know. And it was a few guys you know 678 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 4: like fred de gossoon Rip. You know, I pulled him 679 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 4: into the movement. You know, we was gathering to get 680 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 4: things together and it's just like sharing information. I see 681 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 4: a guy that's dope, he don't know something. They don't 682 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 4: take away nothing from me to be able to be like, 683 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 4: you know, this is what's going on out here now. 684 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 4: And when somebody get the information, if they're hungry, they 685 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 4: gonna do what they supposed to do. And Ran did 686 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 4: what he's supposed to do. 687 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 688 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: Facts, What do you think that shift happened as far 689 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: as music goes, like the sound of music being to 690 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: monetize it the way. 691 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 4: You The shift started to happen when it started to 692 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 4: get more noticeable on our side, when the Grisela movement came, 693 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. That's the shit that helped 694 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 4: me like get away from the streets, like because I 695 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 4: seen it was people from our area that was able 696 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 4: to get noticed, which was the first time. And you know, 697 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 4: so that's when the shift started to change for you know, 698 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 4: for me noticing that it could be done, you know 699 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, And that was encouraging, like Okay, you 700 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 4: know so after that, I just had to realize I 701 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 4: just it took me a little trial and error to 702 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 4: find out a formula to make it, you know, beneficial. 703 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: Because at one point, I remember when I got tapped 704 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: into you. It was on Invasion Radio putting out the mixtapes. 705 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: You got like a little buzz at least violently, you know, 706 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: on the blogs and stuff like that. 707 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 2: Then you kind of went back to jail, right definitely, 708 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: Like how. 709 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: Discouraging was that moment? Did you feel like it just 710 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: stalled momentum? 711 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 4: Of course, Like when I came home from jail, music changed. 712 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 4: Nobody cared about lyricism no more. Before I went in. 713 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 4: You remember I was on the spot with young Christians 714 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 4: when I first got tapped in, you know that, and 715 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 4: I was dumping and I had balls. When I came back, 716 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 4: nobody cared about balls no more. Everybody was like, you know, clubbing. 717 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 4: That's where the discouraging part came in, because it's like, okay, 718 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 4: now if you want some recognition, nobody don't care about 719 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 4: nobody how nice you is no more. It's about how 720 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 4: much money you got or or you know other things. 721 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 4: You know, the social media came in and it was 722 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 4: about content and all of this shit, you know what 723 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like it just it just started taking away 724 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 4: from the lyrical, lyrical ability. 725 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: And talent more and more. 726 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 4: And then once I seen that people was appreciating talenting again, 727 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 4: the doors start opening, like okay, I might have a shot. 728 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 4: I think all of that changed once, you know, people 729 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 4: start realizing like, you know, a lot of those like 730 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 4: big battles helped to like push a t Drake and 731 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 4: you know shit like that. You know it may motherfuckers 732 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 4: be like, okay, got to know how to rap. 733 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: We want to hear what he has to say this person. 734 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 4: You want to hear some some some some some lyrics 735 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 4: and ship you know. And it's like, oh okay, you know, 736 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 4: and that started helping with the shift as well, you know. 737 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: What I'm saying. And now I see kids. 738 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 4: Man, I was riding with eight and nine year olds 739 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 4: the other day and they was listening to Tupac hit 740 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 4: them up wow wow word for word, saying it word 741 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 4: for word, and I realized that's what I was saying 742 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 4: around that age. So I'm like, yo, okay, they starting 743 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 4: to you know, want to hear lyrics again, which is 744 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 4: you know, a beautiful thing to me. 745 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 2: That's funny about this record. 746 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 3: You don't look at the lyricism aspect of it, right, 747 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 3: You get into the beef and the distance, but it's 748 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 3: really the cleverness of the bars off side. It's the 749 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 3: key element to winning a battle or anything that goes on, 750 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,239 Speaker 3: you see. You see even with the with the with 751 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 3: the battles online, with the kids things. 752 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: Definitely talk about your brand though. Man. 753 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 4: The TCF Trust come first is the movement, man, Trust 754 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 4: the chosen Few. The Chosen Few was how it started, man. 755 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 4: And then you know, shout out that my boy rock 756 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 4: life familiar with my cousin. We came up with a 757 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 4: bunch of acronyms and shit for TCF and he had 758 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 4: trust come first, and that shit stuck with her. And 759 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 4: you know, I've been screaming trust for over ten years now, man, and. 760 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 2: Scream trust after every got them for every verse. 761 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: I gotta let it be known. 762 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 2: It's just about the brand, man. 763 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 4: You know, hey, man, and they screaming it when they 764 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 4: see me, they know they know, like you know what 765 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 4: I'm saying, and uh yeah, Man, it's a strong movement. 766 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 2: It's starting to you know, just grow by the day, 767 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 2: grow by the day. 768 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 5: So you're gonna bring us some trust hoodies and stuff. 769 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 4: Now next time, I got y'all, y'all gotta get me 770 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 4: some sizes, man, get y'all right. 771 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: Real, when you say trusted, like you have emphasis behind it, 772 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: like is it more to it than just an acronym? 773 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 4: Like you know, man, it means a lot, man, you 774 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 4: know that's what man? You know, man, that's just the 775 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 4: foundation for everything, you know what I'm saying. And then 776 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 4: not just that though it's a a lot for a person. 777 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 4: It says a lot about a person character that's able 778 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 4: to scream trust for ten twelve years and nobody questioned it. 779 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 4: That says a lot. You understand. That mean everybody that 780 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 4: I came across has some sort of level of trust 781 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 4: for me. 782 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 2: You know. 783 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 4: That's that's an honorable person, you know. So I like 784 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 4: to stand on that, you know what I'm saying, And 785 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 4: that's what it is. 786 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 6: You can't be trust if you're a person's you know, 787 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 6: talk about your background in Rochester, right, you said that 788 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 6: you had to move out of your city, you know, 789 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 6: because you get the most hate from there on South's Pizza. 790 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: Hell, yeah, man, do you feel like it's still like 791 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: that now? 792 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 4: I think for every rapper, you better get the fuck 793 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 4: away from them places that you grew up in before 794 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 4: they kill you. 795 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 796 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 4: Her, this ain't no if ends or bust about it, 797 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 4: especially if you had any ties to the streets and shit. 798 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Like me, I'm just happy 799 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 4: to be alive. Man, I had several attempts on my ship. 800 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. That's documented. Y'all back home 801 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 4: know what time it is. And I'm happy to just 802 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 4: be away from all that shit. And you know that 803 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 4: shit ain't nothing pretty about that street shit. 804 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 2: You know. 805 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 4: That's why I give y'all both sides. That's why I 806 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 4: make songs like Venting and things of that nature. I 807 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 4: motivate y'all to get y'all money, but I also motivate 808 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 4: y'all to get the fuck. 809 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 2: From out of the streets. 810 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, really deep in the streets, 811 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: because like I'm listening to like Eye on the Money. 812 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: You say you were rated at fourteen years old. 813 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I caught my first self charge at fourteen years old. Wow, 814 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. 815 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 4: And yeah, I've been and drew in our systems just 816 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 4: a kid so you know, I experienced it, you know, 817 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 4: being incarcerated as a child and as an adult. You know, 818 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 4: That's why I'm real proud of the lifestyle that I 819 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 4: live now, of being able to really like be all 820 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 4: away legit. I take pride in that because where I 821 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 4: come from. You know what I'm saying, it's not normal. 822 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 3: YEA saw something you were saying that once you've realized 823 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 3: you could make money go to music, you had to 824 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 3: give everything else up. You want to be greedy or 825 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 3: felt like it was gonna go negative if you tried 826 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 3: to keep everything. 827 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a fact. 828 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 4: Once I started to be able to pay my bills 829 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 4: off of me, I ain't want to do nothing else. 830 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 2: I felt like if I was doing anything else, it. 831 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 4: Would be being greedy. I knew all the shit that 832 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 4: I wanted I would eventually get. I got everything I 833 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 4: wanted at one point in time from the streets and 834 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 4: lost it off. You heard, by the time I made 835 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 4: a transition, I had to make a transition, and like 836 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 4: I had to make a decision to try to go 837 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 4: and get. 838 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 2: Everything back or just say fuck it. Caught my blessings. 839 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 4: I decided to say fuck it and caught my blessings, 840 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 4: gave my all and my same you know hustle to 841 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 4: my passion, and I ended up getting everything back tenfold. 842 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 2: When do you feel like things started to click for you? 843 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 4: Things started to click for me once I, uh, after 844 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 4: stabbing Shot and Son and g rat. After those two projects, 845 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 4: I was able to pay my bills. 846 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 2: That was it. I said, oh shit, projects pay my bills. 847 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 2: I'm putting up. 848 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: With the year after that, I put out the wholesale. 849 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 4: I wasn't playing once, I I said, I put out 850 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 4: two projects one year, and then it was paying my bills. 851 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 4: That following year, I put out five year either I 852 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 4: put out fourteen I ain't, you know. 853 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 3: And if you're telling them what directed consumer like on 854 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 3: the website at a certain price, yeah. 855 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 4: At first at first I was, you know, direct the 856 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 4: consumer and shit. 857 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 2: You know. 858 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 4: Then I started partnering up with different distributors on the 859 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 4: physical side, physical meaning like vinyl and zds and things 860 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 4: of that nature. Always had you know, my digital partners 861 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 4: and shit, whether it be you know, E One Empire 862 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 4: or you know Orchard or whoever. You know what I'm saying. 863 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,439 Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, that's what it's about. Man. 864 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 4: Once I realize that it is about it. S is 865 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 4: about building catalog for your rappers out there. It's about 866 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 4: building fans. You know, you don't need a million of them, 867 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 4: building a few of them that fuck with you, and 868 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 4: keep feeding them, you know what I'm saying. Keep feeding them, man, 869 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 4: that's it. Every time you put out a project, it's 870 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 4: an asset, you know what I'm saying. And you just 871 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 4: keep stacking those, man, keep stacking those. 872 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 3: So you feel like you kind of know your fan base, 873 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 3: like this core group, and how to mobilize them. 874 00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 4: I know them exactly when I go in to boo 875 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 4: if I know exactly who I'm talking for. 876 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 2: To the point, I don't even care about everybody else 877 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 2: I know. I know. I don't make music for everybody. 878 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 2: I know. I make music for for. 879 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 4: Something I guess if they come, they come, they just 880 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 4: gonna come if they come. But the person I make 881 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 4: music for, I know exactly who I'm making music for 882 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 4: when I step in the booth, and that's the only 883 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 4: person I care about. 884 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 2: So they don't. 885 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 4: Even advise me to make these records or these records 886 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 4: because I make music for those people, and those people 887 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 4: take care of me, and they looking for me when 888 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 4: they want to hear the ship I provide, So I'm 889 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 4: not gonna do what the other people provide. That's like 890 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 4: you know, I don't. You don't go to KFC looking 891 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,240 Speaker 4: for burgers, you know what I'm saying. So in fact, y'all, 892 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 4: you know, every time you pick up especially, you know 893 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 4: what you're gonna get. 894 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, trust or I remember? 895 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: So you perform at s OBS shout out there. 896 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 2: Yeah December that. 897 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: Chunky and definitely packed. 898 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 2: Man, it was crazy. That was a movie. 899 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 4: It was I was in at That's Fire, Big, That's Fire. 900 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 2: I'm glad it was in the building. Man. So you 901 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 2: get to see me get busy. See how the people. 902 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 4: Respond, you know what I'm saying, See how my people 903 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 4: respond to me. 904 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 2: Man. 905 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 4: You know when it's a diverse crowd, you know, like 906 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 4: do I've been on different tours with different artists and ship. 907 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 2: The people that was in there, it was like really 908 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 2: from like the streets and ship see a lot of 909 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 2: light activity. I saw a couple of ladies too. There 910 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 2: was a few ladies there. 911 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for highlight. 912 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 2: They don't know females coming. Thanks, thank you for highlights. 913 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 2: A nice lady different. 914 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 4: You know, you know we bring out the different kind 915 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 4: of ladies that like, the different kind of men that 916 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 4: they and stuff. 917 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, What was your favorite moment 918 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 2: for that show? 919 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 4: Honestly, this crazy part is that it was when I've 920 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 4: seen an Asian lady saying my joint word for word, 921 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 4: and I passed the microphone and she sung along my 922 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 4: mind out. 923 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have such a diverse catalog? Is it hard 924 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,919 Speaker 1: narrowing down the setlist for Hell yeah? 925 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 2: Hard? 926 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 4: All the time? Man, they be telling me why you 927 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 4: ain't do this? I can't just to hear this. That 928 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 4: shit be hard as hell. 929 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 2: Man. 930 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 4: I put out a lot of music, man, you know, 931 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 4: I try to switch it up a city, stay with 932 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 4: the main joints, but it's hard. 933 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: Do you go back and listen to your old stuff? 934 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? From time to time. 935 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 4: From time to time, I got certain songs that I 936 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 4: always listen to from out the catalog, but from when 937 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 4: I'm on the road trip, I might breathe through the catalog. 938 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a court group like three to five songs. 939 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 3: It's essential for every set list that you definitely. 940 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 4: Have to hell yeah, man, hell yeah. Empty plates is 941 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 4: wondering that shit Lebron was spitting. That's one of them. 942 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 4: I'll be having to do that and ship. You know 943 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. 944 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 2: It's a couple of them on there that I have 945 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 2: to do. Sunday school. Sunday school. You heard that's a must? 946 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 4: Acting like I ain't kill everybody on Sundays respectfully. Man, Yeah, 947 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 4: I know that, man, Like damn, Man, come on, man, 948 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 4: I was versus a decade man talking about that ship. Man, 949 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 4: come on, man, you rememb when you came up with 950 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 4: that verse. Yeah, man, I made that verse after rite. 951 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 2: Believe it or not. 952 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 4: I recorded ten songs that night and then Benny sent 953 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 4: me that verse. I'm like, damn, what I'm gonna do 954 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 4: to this because he rapped for like three minutes. But 955 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 4: I knew that this project was gonna be a big 956 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 4: project for Bruh. And I said, I'm about to smoke 957 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 4: this ship because I knew people was gonna hear me. 958 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 4: So I smoked it sent it to him. He was like, yeah, 959 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 4: you smoked that shit. I'm waiting for kiss this. I'm like, oh, 960 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 4: kiss about the hop on? It was like I said, 961 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 4: and I don't care who about to hop on it. 962 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 2: They ain't gonna be able to do what I did hear. 963 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: I think you and Ransom at some point I do 964 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 1: last gas on in person got. 965 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 4: To got to I'm glad you said that. Ran, you 966 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 4: heard that. The people want to see us do that. 967 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 4: Ran don't like to leave the house. Ran ain't with that. 968 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 1: I see him on vacation all the time these days. 969 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 2: Now, Ran stays on vacation. Man, stay out the cut. Yeah, 970 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 2: that's the fact. Rap life is good for these other 971 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 2: pedic trying to tell you, it's like, come on, come 972 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 2: out of America. I'll sit with you. I'm like, word, 973 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 2: that's how we're doing it. Facts. 974 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, you were and Ran, like Elliott was about 975 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,240 Speaker 1: to allude to you, I haven't done that project. 976 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 2: Yeah don't. 977 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 5: You had a full project And maybe I'm just imagining it. 978 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 2: It's coming, it's coming, and ship we we we we were. 979 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 4: Putting that together. It's definitely coming and it's gonna fuck 980 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 4: y'all up. There's no combo like me and him we rapping. 981 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know the fens are also on your hid 982 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 1: top man, because that nineteen ninety six tape. Where is 983 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: that at, y'all? 984 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 2: It's coming. I'm in a year with it. Man on 985 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 2: the loan that's the one at the end of the year, 986 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 2: the last one for the year. 987 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed those those tapes where you're just jacking 988 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,320 Speaker 1: these other people beats and. 989 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, that should be fun. Yeah, that should be fun. 990 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 4: Matter of fact, you did in box me after I dropped, like, yo, 991 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 4: it was fucking with. 992 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 1: You had one line he was like, stop wearing it 993 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,320 Speaker 1: was thirty six mill of me the Wii. 994 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 995 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,240 Speaker 4: I was like, okay, yeah, hell yeah, nah, I respect 996 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 4: that beat out. You've been supporting for a minute though, 997 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 998 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, the time had to be right, you know, we 999 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: finally get to sit down. 1000 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, man, Hell yeah, man. 1001 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,399 Speaker 4: I'm just glad, you know, y'all, y'all see the work 1002 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 4: being put in, you know what I mean. 1003 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean obviously you put out two 1004 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 1: projects this year. But you know, we had a set 1005 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: back a couple months back with your with your brother 1006 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,800 Speaker 1: passed on level definitely. You know, he lost life to 1007 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 1: gun violence. How did that affect you and the family? 1008 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 2: Man? That shit was something that was very that was like, 1009 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 2: very very hard to deal with. This shit. 1010 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 5: Man. 1011 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 4: You know, when you never know how much you love 1012 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 4: something until it's not dead. We take for granted people 1013 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 4: and shit, we think they're gonna be there forever. That 1014 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 4: fucked me up because, like, you know, that was like 1015 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 4: my first best friend, that's my big bro's you know 1016 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,800 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And uh, at the end of the day, though, 1017 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 4: I know what he wanted me to do, so I'm 1018 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 4: just staying staying focused and shit, you know what I'm saying, 1019 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 4: Like staying focused. But it was definitely hard and it's 1020 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 4: still hard, and some unbelievable shit, like losing his siblings, 1021 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,760 Speaker 4: Like like I lost my mother a couple of years 1022 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 4: prior to that, and that was one of the hardest 1023 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 4: things I ever had to deal with. I didn't think 1024 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 4: anything would be harder than that. Losing my brother was 1025 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,319 Speaker 4: actually harder than that, because that's a person that you 1026 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 4: deal with every day. That's the person that you deal 1027 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 4: with the loss of when shit happened. When shit happened, 1028 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 4: that's tragic. You got them certain people you call right away, 1029 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 4: somebody died something else. As some people start dwindling, and shit, 1030 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 4: you know, it gets a little, it gets very hard. 1031 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 1: To deal with, right And how problem was he of 1032 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 1: your success? 1033 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 2: He was proud as hell. 1034 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 4: It was crazy because he's seen you know me, you know, 1035 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,280 Speaker 4: doing my thing, like right before, he's seen seven shots 1036 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 4: come out. 1037 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 2: Matter, do you know what I'm saying? 1038 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 4: So seven shots came out, he's seen KD fucking with 1039 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 4: it and shit, and you know I shouted him out 1040 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 4: on one of them interviews and Ship and he was 1041 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 4: on the block playing that ship in the loud speaker. 1042 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 4: Her that was that's crazy. That was dope though, you know, 1043 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 4: so yeah, hell yeah. He was proud, very proud of 1044 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:12,879 Speaker 4: little bro. 1045 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 1: I know you have your daughter too, and she has 1046 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 1: to be your biggest fan. 1047 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 2: Biggest fan. Man. 1048 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 4: She keeps asking her come to the concerts. I got 1049 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 4: a wait time at like some type of kid friendly 1050 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 4: venue and Ship, and I'll be telling her one of 1051 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 4: these days, you can't come in these places with me, 1052 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,879 Speaker 4: like no, but yeah, she's my biggest fan man. 1053 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 2: You know. It was like, what's side guns? A daughter? 1054 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 2: Word up? 1055 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,439 Speaker 4: I got her playing instruments and ship though she gon 1056 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 4: she got yeah, you know, I got all the kids 1057 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 4: is musically inclined. Y'all got to do something. Yeah, I'm 1058 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 4: like Joe Jackson, I gotta do something. 1059 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,280 Speaker 5: Like said his kids got. 1060 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 2: To earn it. Ship. So yeah, you know, we're getting busy. 1061 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 2: Expect some family music coming back. This album in Fireplace, Man, 1062 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 2: you decided to go so long that thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1063 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 2: I needed to get some balls off. 1064 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 4: It was a couple of joints, like the joint before that, 1065 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 4: I wasn't one, So that's why I was like, yeah, 1066 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,760 Speaker 4: let me just give him a you know, a nice 1067 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 4: verse and ship, you know what I'm saying. 1068 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 2: Because you're not in the one with foul you know 1069 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 2: that one? On that one either that one. I ain't 1070 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 2: want the song to be too long, man. 1071 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 4: It's like once once I start getting in it, after 1072 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 4: like three minutes and shit, it's like, you know, I 1073 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 4: don't want to It's like it might be a little 1074 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,280 Speaker 4: too long. And shit, you know three people three minutes 1075 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 4: for nah we you know what I'm saying. 1076 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,320 Speaker 2: Plus they did what they had to do on that, 1077 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 2: and you got another Queen's wrap on on the album. 1078 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 2: Lloyd the Banks shout out the Banks man. Yeah that's 1079 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 2: the homie joint. Yeah, that's the homie man. Banks. 1080 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 4: Banks was one of the first ones to support me too, 1081 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 4: back when you know, motherfuckers ain't really knowing shit. He 1082 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 4: shouted me out on Twitter like you know, I was 1083 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 4: one of his favorites and shit, you know and shout 1084 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 4: out the. 1085 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 1: Banks ecosystem is dope because it's like you might catch 1086 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 1: them on your project. You might catch Banks you on 1087 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: Banks's project. It's like, yeah, it's you know, he's showing 1088 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: each other camaraderie. 1089 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 2: Definitely definitely expect some more of that too. Facts. 1090 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 4: I was on Yayo last year too, though, Man shut 1091 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 4: out to yyo too. 1092 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, is it someone that you want to work 1093 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 1: with who's on your bucket list? I feel like you're 1094 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 1: checking off a lot of boxes so far, check. 1095 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 2: It off a lot of box. 1096 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 4: I got a few guys that you're gonna be surprised 1097 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 4: to hear me with on my next solo coming out 1098 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 4: top of next year. But it's a few guys that 1099 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 4: I still won't work with, you know what I mean. 1100 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 4: I gotta do something with Nas. I would like to 1101 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 4: do some shit with Jay Zon me too. 1102 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,399 Speaker 2: Right, Like Yo ho, just pull me. 1103 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 4: In the studio with you. I'm telling you, my nigga, 1104 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 4: I'm gonna bring back that nineties vibe. You don't think like, 1105 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,959 Speaker 4: oh man, bring that nineties vibe man? 1106 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 2: You know? 1107 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 4: So yeah about hoving Nas is the two rappers I 1108 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 4: probably would like to do records with, you know, singers. 1109 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 4: I would love to do something with Mary and Ronald, Okay, 1110 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 4: you know, yeah, yeah, that's about it. 1111 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,359 Speaker 1: As far as production goes. You want to just work 1112 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 1: with anybody or you selective with that as well. 1113 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,359 Speaker 4: I want to work with the people that I grew 1114 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 4: up listening to, or people that's dope. 1115 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 2: Okay, you gotta be dope, you know. 1116 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 4: Or if I grew up listening to you and you 1117 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 4: have some type of impact on my ship, come on, 1118 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 4: we could sit down and I fuck with you. You know, 1119 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 4: I'm producing a couple of ships for some niggas that 1120 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,240 Speaker 4: y'all gonna be surprised that that's gonna sound great. 1121 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 2: You know, how do you feel about that? Giving away 1122 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 2: a beat? This? You know it's dope. 1123 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 5: You don't hear yourself out of giving away to someone else? 1124 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 4: Like yes, So when I'm in producer back, I'll just 1125 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 4: wear my producer hat and ship. 1126 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 2: When I put my wrapper hat back on, I'd be 1127 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:39,319 Speaker 2: mad as a bitch. I'd be just like, what the fuck. 1128 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 4: But when I'm wearing my producer hat, I'm just trying 1129 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 4: to make the best ship and just here you go. 1130 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 2: Then I'd be like, damn, I don't believe I gave 1131 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 2: that one away. 1132 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,840 Speaker 5: So when you make the beach, you're not thinking of 1133 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:49,839 Speaker 5: yourself as the yards at all. 1134 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 2: I'm just making I'm just making a beat. Making a 1135 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 2: beat be the best that it could be, you know 1136 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:54,479 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 1137 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 4: And then, you know, but a few times I wish 1138 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,320 Speaker 4: that I would have kept some ship for myself. 1139 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 1: You know, because like on Graphs album, all the words, 1140 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: I was like thirty eight doing this. Oh, this is 1141 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,280 Speaker 1: just all production, all production, all production. Hell yeah, shout 1142 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 1: out the graph and ship. You know we're working on 1143 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: another one too, you know what I'm saying. So hell yeah, me. 1144 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,479 Speaker 4: And Vado got an album coming to Yeah yeah, shout 1145 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 4: out the bottom. Yeah. If you in New York and 1146 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,360 Speaker 4: come from the East Coast and ship y'all, you know 1147 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 4: you should holler at me and ship man. You know, 1148 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:24,919 Speaker 4: I got some things figured out. 1149 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 2: Man. You know. 1150 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,839 Speaker 4: You know how to wrap, and you sitting at home 1151 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 4: and ship, you should holler at me and ship man. 1152 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 2: We probably could make some money and Ship. You know, 1153 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,879 Speaker 2: trust trust trust. You buy yourself another bike? Yeah, man, 1154 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 2: you love them bikes. Yeah, I took a little break though. 1155 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 4: Man, too many motherfuckers was falling off them ships and 1156 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 4: getting killed, and shit, I got a little scared. I 1157 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 4: ain't gonna lie. I ain't rolling bout a year motorcycles. Yeah, 1158 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 4: I ain't rolling about a year, man, But I'm about 1159 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 4: to start back. Man, that shit is calling me, oh ship, Yeah, 1160 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:55,240 Speaker 4: I love them ships. 1161 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie. Word, I love it. Just a 1162 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:57,880 Speaker 2: little dangerous. 1163 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 4: It's a lot dangers. Yeah, yeah, I had to fall 1164 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,800 Speaker 4: back from them sh just a little bit. Shout to 1165 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 4: all my bikers thought. You know, y'all be safe on 1166 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 4: them roads. 1167 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 1: Man, there's no safety of this special machinery though. 1168 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 2: Ain't nobody saying. Ain't nobody saying special machinery out right now? Man? 1169 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 2: Sucking ship up. We're sitting comfortable at number one. You 1170 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Ship street music, street good good 1171 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 2: street music facts. 1172 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 3: You feel like you guys, like in your own league, 1173 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 3: like your own league of spinners, like hell yeah, Like 1174 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 3: you're putting the playlist together, like these are the essential guys. 1175 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 4: I completely feel like that these are the essential guys. 1176 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 4: You got to have enough playlist if you want to 1177 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 4: people that may not be familiar to novices out there. 1178 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:46,880 Speaker 2: Don't know se're not. 1179 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 4: You're gonna have niggas mad at me and ship because 1180 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 4: I ain't mentioned their name, so you know me personally, 1181 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 4: I'm just speaking on my playlist. You gotta have some 1182 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,919 Speaker 4: thirty eight special trust in it. That that that that 1183 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,240 Speaker 4: includes you know, Ransom, you know what I'm saying. 1184 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 2: Gotta have you some Griselda. 1185 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 4: In there, some Ben in Coln definitely if you want 1186 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 4: to hear lyrics, definitely. My boy Banks is rapping still 1187 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 4: at an all time high and shit is starting to 1188 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 4: get blurried. 1189 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 2: Got change the wall. 1190 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, she part of the Trust movement, all kind of 1191 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 4: they gotta uh ship damn, y'all gotta forgive me out there. 1192 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 4: Everybody that I produced the album with, y'all, y'all part 1193 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 4: of the Trust movement. 1194 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 2: I ain't got to say y'all names. Y'all part of 1195 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 2: the Trust movement. 1196 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 4: So you know, everybody that I produced the album with, 1197 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 4: it's in my playlist as well, you know. And I 1198 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 4: really don't listen to too many niggas man. Yeah, you know, 1199 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 4: it's people that know how to rap. But as of 1200 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 4: right now, in the last two years, it ain't too 1201 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 4: many people that made my playlist. 1202 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 3: That's just for me to I think I saw you 1203 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 3: picked up l Russell and I like. But that's two times. 1204 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,359 Speaker 2: I like both of them. Yeah, I love both of them. 1205 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 4: I haven't really dug into their catalog, but every time 1206 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,799 Speaker 4: I come across them, I like what I see. 1207 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 2: Y'all like what I hear. I like the way that 1208 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 2: they're doing what they're doing. In fact, we like what 1209 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 2: you're doing thirty eight man, I appreciate that. Man. How 1210 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 2: do you stay shop as lyricists? Man? Do? What's the key? 1211 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 4: I listened to those those greats. I listened to that 1212 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,320 Speaker 4: ship from the nineties and early two thousands. I really 1213 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 4: you know, and that's it like and people that know 1214 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 4: how to rap rap now, so I keep your pinshop man, 1215 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:31,720 Speaker 4: I'm around spinners. 1216 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 2: Ain't no slacking, world up, no slacking that we finally 1217 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,279 Speaker 2: did this, brother, Thank you man. I appreciate y'all having me. 1218 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 4: Man do this again, this again? Man, when they want 1219 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 4: them car rides from you to pull one of them 1220 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 4: toys and go around Rochester Street bulletproof. 1221 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 5: Might do you ran banky kt or something? 1222 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Yeah? 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