1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Ron Ananian, if you're planning to keep your car, and 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: you know your car needs maintenance, please do yourself a 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: favor and think about doing it early rather than late. 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: It can by me both bay and drug to pull 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: the car Doctor. What if you take the two centsors 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: out and take it for a run. Well, I guess 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: because you could do that. Why not? This is a 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: carbureted vehicle, right, Yeah, it's not that critical. They were 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: kind of they were kind of young and dumb. They 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: would run without the two centsors all day long. They 11 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: just wouldn't run great, but it would go over fifty. 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Nannian the 13 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the world 14 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If 15 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 16 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: phone and call in. The garage doors are open, but 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: I am here to take your calls. At eight five 18 00:00:52,600 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: five and now running. Did you ever under what it 19 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: was like? Oh gosh, what was it? Maybe it's a 20 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: hundred twenty years ago now, or maybe maybe when they 21 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: said okay, no more horses, we're gonna start to make 22 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: the shift towards cars. And I know I've talked to 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: you about this from time to time. Listen, you know 24 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: what is this radio show? This is your radio show. 25 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: I've said that for the past twenty eight years. But 26 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: it's just me talking about what happens in the shop 27 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: on a weekly basis. You know, every time somebody says 28 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: to me, when you're gonna retire, I say, I can't. 29 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: I really, you know, I love what I do and 30 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm ready to retire. And I 31 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: definitely need to do the shop in order to do 32 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: the radio show because I think that's what makes this 33 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: show unique. There are other automotive talk shows out there, 34 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: but I think this is one of the few that 35 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: you know what I am live. I am here with 36 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: you know, flying solo by the seat of my pants 37 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: every Saturday from two to four pm live Eastern Time, 38 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: and talking about things that happened in the shop. And 39 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: I think that's part of what makes this unique, because 40 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: I want to be here when that last horse comes 41 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: out of the stable and we make that switch to 42 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: electric cars, because boy, that's what's coming. You can you 43 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: can see it every week, and some of it said 44 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: there's a there's a bit of melancholy to it. There's 45 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: a bit of gee, it's over. And I had that 46 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: experience yesterday, first Friday of the month. For about a 47 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: year and a half, now I've I've closed the shop 48 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: on that first Friday. And you know, that's my idea 49 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: of retirement. That's my idea of saying, hey, you know, 50 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna take some time and just you know, 51 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: recharge the battery. No pun intended on first Friday. And 52 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: yesterday was first Friday. And I stopped at the shop 53 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: after the chiropractor put my back back together, and you know, 54 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: I did a little bit of paperwork. It's just a 55 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: little bit of solitude, you know. You just sometimes you 56 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: want to sit in the shop when it's quiet and 57 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: the dust isn't stern around and you can think and 58 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: do your bills, and you get yourself caught up. So 59 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: you hit the hit the bricks. On Monday running and 60 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 1: as I was walking out, Jimmy stopped by. I haven't 61 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: seen Jimmy in a while. He drives this older jeep, 62 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: Cherokee four Leader. It's got three twenty thousand miles on it, 63 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: I think, some crazy number. And he just Jim just 64 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: loves this jeep. He's boy, you know what, He's just 65 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: sympatico one on one with this older Cherokee. It's probably 66 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: around and eight and eighty nine, something like that. And 67 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: I had had a tap in a tick tick tick 68 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: tick tick tick tick tick, and you know, he wanted 69 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: my opinion. He wanted to leave it. I explained to 70 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: him why. It's what I'm gonna explain to you, why 71 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: why i turned this job down. It's got three thousand 72 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: plus miles. I already told you that, and it has 73 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: what I believe to be a valve trained noise, the 74 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: typical you know, tickety lifter kind of a sound. And 75 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: I'd have to take it apart to diagnose it. And 76 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what I come up with, I still 77 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: gotta be able to fix it. And as I said 78 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: to Jim, I'll tell you where would I take it? 79 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: Where where would I Where would I get individual engine 80 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: repair done? You know, when I go out and I 81 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: do seminars and I talk, and I do some consulting 82 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: now and then, and every once in a while somebody 83 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: will get me up behind the soapbox and I'll talk 84 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: about shop management or or or the world of want 85 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: to repair, and I always do it from my view. 86 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: I can give it to you both ways. I can 87 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: give it to you from the national view. But I 88 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: feel very qualified to talk about Waldwick, New Jersey, because 89 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: that's where I spend most of my time. And as 90 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: narrow of you as it is, it seems that it's 91 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: still broad enough because the brush strokes get painted far enough. 92 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: That's so many of you react to it. As I 93 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: said to Jim, Jim, I'll take the valve cover off, 94 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: I'll diagnose the tick. I'll tell you which cylinder, I'll 95 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: tell you which lifter, which part of the engine is 96 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: making that noise? But what good is it? Where am 97 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: I gonna take it? I still gotta You've still gotta 98 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: be able to fix it. You've still got to take 99 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: it to a machine shop in order to rebuild it. 100 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: And here's the problem. There hasn't been a machine shop 101 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: in North Jersey, and I say that specifically North Jersey 102 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: for the better part of nine years. We don't do 103 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: flywheel resurfacing anymore. We don't do transmission, um overhauls any more, 104 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: manual transmission, all that stuff is gone. You know, there's 105 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: barely a demand for automatic transmission rebuilds in the field, 106 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: most stuff is done as exchange units with the factory 107 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: or with some national supplier because that seems to be 108 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: more cost effective and price point friendly. So now you've 109 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: got to take this Jeeps engine that Jimmy's in love 110 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: with and take it to a machine shop. You have 111 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: no relationship, with no experience. So the fix becomes you're 112 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: either going to buy from a national engine builder, a 113 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: Jasper or something like that, or you're gonna go back 114 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: to Jeep and purchase a Jeep engine right from Jeep. 115 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: If Chrysler still remans an engine for an eight or 116 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: eighty nine, you know what is that It's thirty two 117 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: years old. Isn't the last horse coming out of the barn? 118 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: Have we have? We reached that point? You know? During 119 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: the Second World War, the Eighth Air Force decided to 120 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: do daylight bombing. The British did the nighttime bombing. We 121 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: did the day daylight bombing, and Uncle Steve always said 122 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: we were flying ourselves into oblivion, which is something eight 123 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: Air Force always knew because we were primed targets until 124 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: they figured things out. And P fifty one showed up 125 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: and a bunch of other changes happened, But the point is, 126 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: are we flying ourselves into oblivion? Is this the end? 127 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: Is this that moment in time where the horse is 128 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: gone and the car gets replaced by the electric vehicle? 129 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: And I wonder about that, And I left it with Jimmy. 130 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: I said, you know, you've got to make a decision. 131 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: I said, you can take it to somebody to get 132 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: it diagnosed, but they've got to be able to repair it. 133 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: And then the problem becomes at three thousand plus miles, 134 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: when does the next shoe drop? So do you just 135 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: look at this as let's go for the overhaul now 136 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: and get it done while you can still get some 137 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: semblance of parts, something decent that isn't going to be 138 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: a problem. And you know, when you're driving an older 139 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: vehicle and this is a way older vehicle, it's thirty 140 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: something years old, you know, you get to that stage 141 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: where how hard do you want to work to find 142 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: parts and what kind of quality of parts can you find? 143 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: But it all comes back to my original opening comment, right, 144 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: where's the end? Is this that moment? And yeah, I 145 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: think it is. I think what we're seeing in the 146 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: automotive world is history is a transition, at least in Waldwick. 147 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: I know we're seeing it in North Jersey, and I 148 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: suspect you're gonna start to see it around the country 149 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: if you haven't already. You know, when you look at 150 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: hot rods and you know hot rod engines and engine rebuilders, 151 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: they're still out there. It's very strong down south. That's 152 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: very strong, Southern California. It's it's very strong in other 153 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: parts of the country. But it seems that in the Northeast, 154 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: machine shops are a dying breed. There's less and less, 155 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: and for a time when there used to be a 156 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: machine shop in every town or every other town, there 157 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: isn't one within three or four counties that's doing it 158 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: at such a level that you're comfortable that you can 159 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: take it to them and say, here, rebuild this because 160 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: you haven't done enough of them yourself. And that, to 161 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: me is the end of an era. And you know, 162 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: from my seat, that's just something I saw this week, 163 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: and I've i started to see more and more of it. 164 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: So get ready. It's Mr. Toad's Wild Road. This is 165 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: the car Doctor. I am Ron and Indian. We're gonna 166 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: talk about a bunch of things this hour. Obviously I'm 167 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at zero nine nine zero zero. 168 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: If you have comments about, hey, you know the end 169 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: of the era. Can't find an engine rebuilder the machine 170 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: shops are are you know done and one and done 171 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: and that kind of thing? You know what dropped me? 172 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: An email Ron at Car Doctor Show dot com give 173 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: me a qual eight five zero zero. We'd love to 174 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: hear from you. We might have been trying to put 175 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: you on the spot and get you up on air 176 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: because you know, I think this is a hot button 177 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: topic that we've got to address. Is this that transitional 178 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: period out of Detroit this week to show you where 179 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: it's going. About a hundred and fifty General Motors dealers, 180 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: It's reported I've accepted buyouts and will stop selling Cadillacs 181 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: as the Detroit automaker pivots the luxury brand to lead 182 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: it's all electric vehicle sales effort um. This this a 183 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: story we found online at CNBC dot com. You know 184 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: it's it's happening right, Gonna be no more well, certain 185 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: Cadillac dealers will go away, Gonna be no more internal 186 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: combustion engine Cadillacs. By everything will be all electric. GM 187 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: is on the rampage. Elon Musk had some comments this week. 188 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: I've got a bunch of things to talk about this hour, 189 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: but right now, let me pull over and take a pause. 190 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: When I come back, we're gonna kick open the phones. 191 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: First caller is going to be getting a copy of 192 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: Dr Richard McCann's Classic Car Adventures. We're in a we're 193 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: in a holiday spirit. Start giving things away. I gotta 194 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: empty the gift halas it by the end of the month. 195 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: So we're gonna kick off right with that. So at 196 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: eight five zero nine zero. Give us a shout. We'll 197 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: be back right after this. Have what's more fun than 198 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: listening to Ron and Ady in the car doctor and 199 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: getting that car fixed? Right A five five five zero 200 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Give Ron a call. Now back to Ron, Hey, 201 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: let's get on over and talk to Isaac and Minnesota. 202 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: Isaac Toyota camera. What's going on here? Hey? Ron? Yeah, 203 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: So give you a quick synopsis. Maybe these things are related, 204 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: maybe or not. But um steah seven Twitter camera, you 205 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: haven't really had any issues. But it's um no check 206 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: engine light or anything like that. But it's set in 207 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: the garage for I don't know four or five days 208 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: um and then I went to start it last night, 209 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 1: and I had been noticing that you know, if it 210 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: sits for a longer time, sometimes idle high and then 211 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: you know, come up to temp and and came back 212 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: down to about the hunter RPN. But this time I 213 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: went to start it, everything was fine. It was you know, 214 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: coming over. It's not like you know, bad battery or 215 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: started not engaging, but you know, it was idling even higher. 216 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: And then if I disengaged the ignition, it would come 217 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: down real quick and then it would stall itself out. 218 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: So in order to keep it going I had to 219 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: put my foot on the gas a little bit and 220 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: probably for maybe ten seconds or so just to get 221 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: it to the point where it would let itself can 222 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: continue to idle. And it's still rougher to the two 223 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: minutes after that, and after driving it for a while 224 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: warming up, it was fine. Got back in the car 225 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: after running a few errands. Every time I started up, 226 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: start back up, it was fine. And then even yesterday 227 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: set out in the driveway, got up this morning, started 228 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: at about thirty degrees, started up fine. So there's that. 229 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: And then I have noticed as it's gotten colder out 230 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: when I'm driving it and I hit between and two 231 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: thousand r p m, there's a rattle, and it's only 232 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: within that range. Once I get above that range, that 233 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: rattle seems to dissipate and go away. And the same 234 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: as true once I'm below that range. So I've had 235 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: the hood open trying to figure out whereabouts it's coming from. 236 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: You know, I even did some livestream data on it 237 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: yesterday to see what fuel trim looked like. And no codes, 238 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: no nothing, So I don't know where is where is 239 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: fuel trim? ISAAC. So after driving it for about fifteen 240 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: minutes twenty minutes yesterday, I parked it and I was 241 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: looking at the field strim. Short term was right at 242 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: about zero, fluctuate between negative one and one, and then 243 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: long term was staying steady at about three. Okay, so 244 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say we we like we 245 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: like fuel trim long and short sounds right, four cylinder 246 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: car correct to. So you know, let's talk about known 247 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: good or last time serviced? Um. Anybody do any cleaning 248 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: of the throw attle body? And when you clean the 249 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: throttle body, you know the only way you can really 250 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: clean those throttle bodies successfully and correctly in my opinion, 251 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: is to take them off the intake all right, And 252 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: I believe that's held on with Phillips heads because are 253 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: those Phillips are nuts? Those might be nuts. But the 254 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: piece I want you to take off is the I 255 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: ACT valve, the idle air control valve underneath, and and 256 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: that's got to be absolutely spotless. But what you're describing 257 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: to me is an older i ACT that's getting hung up. Part. 258 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: That's part of what you're describing to me. When those 259 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: have variations and fluctuations and idle speed, that was usually 260 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: the beginning of the end for the I ACT valve. 261 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: It started to get a little bit of carbon, it 262 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: got the least little bit of grit and contaminant in there, 263 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: and it was done. I've got to say that, for 264 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: all the things I've seen Toyota make over the years, 265 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: those idle air control valves have the movement and the 266 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: precision of a Swiss watch. I always akin to it 267 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: to that. You know, you look at a new one, 268 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: you look at an old one, and you just kind 269 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: of gently touched the bypass valve that that spring loaded 270 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: and just you know, with a with a small screw driver, 271 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: just give it a little nudge and just feel the 272 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: consistency of how that new one moves versus the grittiness 273 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 1: of the old one. There's usually quite a difference that that, 274 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: I act is the number one issue with with with 275 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: high idols ahead. It's interesting you say that, because actually 276 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: I put a not a new but I pulled it used. 277 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: I used throttle body out of because initially this this 278 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: engine is actually a two thousand one era and when 279 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: they put that engine in, they didn't change up the 280 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: throttle body with it, so that throttle body was communicating 281 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: to you, and I was having all sorts of title issues. 282 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: So then I got an I cleaned it out. However, 283 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: I wasn't able to get the I a cough because 284 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: in Toyota's ultimate wisdom, there Philip screws and there they 285 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: strea start stripping them out, and at that point, you know, 286 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: I can't. I don't want to totally. So maybe, yeah, 287 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: gotta go there, got got gotta go there. Gotta see 288 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: what that looks like on the inside. I know there's 289 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: not a lot of room, But if you still have 290 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: the older throttle body, here's what I would do. I 291 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: would I would get okay, So I would get that 292 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: IAK as clean as I could, or or consider replacing 293 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: it as a starting point. You like the car, you're 294 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: gonna keep it. I know they're expensive. I think they're 295 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: probably in the two two fifty range, and I would 296 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: only put one from Toyota on, but you know they 297 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: work the best. Do you have a an exhaust cutoff tool, 298 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: an exhaust wheel as we used as we call it. 299 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: I don't, but I'm always living for excuses to get 300 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: into a tool. Okay, So here's what you want to 301 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: buy yourself for the holidays. You want to buy some 302 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: kind of an exhaust cut off wheel with a car 303 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: by wheel so that you can cut a notch in 304 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: the head of those Phillips screws, all right, and make 305 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: it a straight blade, all right, and you'll just let's 306 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: just let's just make a screw all right now. I 307 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: would also get p B blaster soaked the back of 308 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: the threads, with some PB soaked the top of the nuts. 309 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: Give it a day or two, let it soak, Give 310 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: it a day or two, let it soak. Cut the notch, 311 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: and you know, push down. Make sure you've got that 312 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: throttle body securely held down. If you have to wrap 313 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: a rag around it so you don't um, you know, 314 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: neural up or grind up the bottom of the throttle 315 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: body if you have to put it in a vice. 316 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: Make sure you're supported so that you're not marring the surfaces, okay, 317 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: and just get it clamped down real good and give 318 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: it a Make sure you eat your wheaties the night before, 319 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: as we used to say. And you know you've got 320 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: to get those screws out, and let's start with cleaning 321 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: that IAQ valve. The other thing I want to leave 322 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: you with is, because it's older, do we have possible 323 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: problems with carbon deposits? And do you have to perform 324 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: a traditional fuel system upper end cleaning? All right? And 325 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: that's not a terrible thing to consider either. When it 326 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: starts up and it chugs and it it runs rough, 327 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: does it puff out any smoke? Um? When I initially 328 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: got it, yes, very much so. And then I ran 329 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, probably eight cans and berrymans through that 330 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: thing and it did clean up. And I've noticed that, 331 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: you know, because I ivery did spark plugs not all 332 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: that long ago. I didn't get a scope do on there, 333 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: but I just got you know, I'm just looking for listen. 334 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: Let's let's let's go common Let's go common sense before 335 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: we go high tech. I always like to take that route. 336 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: You know, these engines have. These engines have a habit 337 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: of also the valve stem seals in the head go bad. 338 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: They get dry and brittle over time, and you'll find 339 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: after the vehicle sat for a couple of days, enough 340 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: oil is dripped down the valve stems and it creates 341 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: a rough running engine, especially on something with higher mileage, 342 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: old or higher mileage, and you'll either start to see 343 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: smoke or you'll see you'll see rough idally, you'll see 344 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: a combination of both. And then you've got to really 345 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: think about you know, do you want to go back 346 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: to an Orillyoto parts see if they've got a Berryman's 347 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: fuel system kit where you actually hook up to the 348 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: rail clean the clean the injectors to a formal cleaning 349 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: where it blasts the crowd off the back of the 350 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: intake valves and cleans the top of the pistons. Because 351 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: carbon deposits become part of this conversation, Isaac, stay on 352 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: the phone. Let Tom get your information. I've been sending 353 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: you a copy of Dr Richard McCann's book Classic Car Adventures. 354 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: We think you'll enjoy it. Happy holidays from us here 355 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: at the Car Doctor. But stay on the land of 356 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: Tom get your info. I'm Ron any in the Car Doctor. 357 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: We're back right after this. Welcome back on any of 358 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor here at zero zero zero. By the way, 359 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: I should welcome UPOAR A, K N, S I A 360 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: M FM up there in St. Cloud, Minnesota. They're carrying 361 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: The Car Doctor up there on Sundays at various times, 362 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: and we appreciate you guys doing that, and we're glad 363 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: to be part of the same Cloud community and welcome aboard. 364 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: Let's hear from zero. I should point out you can 365 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: call us Saturday afternoons to the four pm East Coast time. 366 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: We're not in your market then we're in your market 367 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: on Sunday, but we can get up here on air 368 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: and talk to you about your car problems and whatever 369 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: we've got to do to solve them. So but once 370 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: again K and S I FM and A M let's 371 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: say thank you to them for carrying the show. Walter 372 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: from MAUI. How long it has been Walter, my friend? 373 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: How are you today? Talking to you? Yes? Or YouTube? 374 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: What's going on. I hope you and your family are 375 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: doing well with the virus we are. It's you know, Walt, 376 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: it's a weird I don't have to say. I mean, 377 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: everybody knows it, right, it's a weird time. We all 378 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: have these same thoughts and motions on our minds as 379 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: to the state of the world and what we're all 380 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: going through. It's things we've never thought we'd see before. 381 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: But you know, you've got to remain positive and upbeat. 382 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: It's it's I lest we believed by turning off the 383 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: news you can survive better. And you know, it's just 384 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: you know, there's things I see and hear things in 385 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: the news that just make me scratch my head and go, really, 386 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: that's what we want to talk about, you know. We 387 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,239 Speaker 1: I'm somewhat isolated being on an island like this, and 388 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: I was never in a big fan of building a wall, 389 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: but I think building a wall around the island and 390 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: keeping all you folks out of here is a good idea. 391 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: You know. Well, you know why. I don't think we've 392 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: ever seen aliens for sure here on Earth. If you 393 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: were out in space and you were intelligent life and 394 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: you saw this planet, would you say, I want to 395 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: go there in the shape they're in right now, I know, 396 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: you know, it makes it makes me wonder, you know, 397 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: it makes me wonder either that or they're here and 398 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,479 Speaker 1: there running the place, and either one's a possibility. One 399 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: of those two things. This couldn't be the way things 400 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: can't be. I just, you know what, More and more 401 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: I get into my cars, and that's where I really 402 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: on a bay. How can I help you today, Walter? 403 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: What's going on? Well, I'm working on a two thousand 404 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: and eight Nissan two point five Nissan Ultima and two 405 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: point five S and it has a lot. When you 406 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: shut the engine off, there's a large sucking sound. Obviously 407 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: the car sucks. It's similar to sound of a large 408 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: vacuum leak, and I can trace it down to in 409 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: the area of the catalytic converter, but I can't pendpoint 410 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: exactly where it's coming from. And there's no loose hoses 411 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: or gaskets. I've looked really close, and the only thing 412 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: I can think about to do is maybe the smoke 413 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: it or something, but I'm not sure what that would 414 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: know me. Well, is it a is it a is 415 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: it a suction? Sound from the exhaust system, or it's 416 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: a suction sound from under the hood like the engine itself. 417 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: Now I've narrowed it down to somewhere in the area 418 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: of the exhaust system, close to the catalytic converter. Okay, 419 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: is the car is the car does check engine light on? No, 420 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: and there's no pending codes. Car runs normal perfectly, all right. Um, 421 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: for giggles, I would look at and just see where 422 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: fuel trim is. Fuel trim is gonna tell me a 423 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: fuel trim is perfect, then at least I know whatever 424 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: this is after the last oxygen sensor in the system, 425 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's not necessarily an air leak as 426 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: we would think of it, all right, and we can 427 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: eliminate that. Yeah, you know, listen, my daughter's escape is broken, 428 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: all right, her FO her fourteen escape. It came home 429 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: in October for a problem with a bad wheel bearing 430 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,959 Speaker 1: and a noisy differential, and naturally Dad has to make 431 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: it perfect before he hands it back to her. And 432 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: I can see fuel trim and long term fuel trim 433 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: is six. Short term fuel trim is zero plus or 434 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: minus to three. But I've got I've got a problem. 435 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: Long term fuel trim is way too high, and it's 436 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: only high at Idle and I'm going through. I'm going 437 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: through the steps. Man, I'm feeling the pain. It's it's 438 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, I've I Thursday night, I was there late 439 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: and I went through. I'm sniffing using propane to sniff 440 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: around the exhaust to see if I can get a 441 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: change on fuel trim for the downstream O too, just 442 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: to look to see do I have an exhaust leak 443 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: that's somehow skewing my fuel trim numbers. Monday, I'm taking 444 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: the intake manifold off because I'm convinced because of this 445 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: whistling noises car makes a high pitched whistle from the 446 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: front area of the intake. I'm convinced that there is 447 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: some small form of a vacuum leak there at Idle 448 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: that's creating this whistling sound. I've propaned it, but I 449 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: can't get to all of the manifold. It's an easy 450 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: manifold to get off, and at five thousand miles, I 451 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: want to take a look. I want to see what 452 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: I say. I also want to take a look at 453 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: the intake valves. Do I have carbon deposits? Obviously, all 454 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: these things will Will Walter fuel trim. My point is 455 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: I'm looking for what's good as well as what's bad 456 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: in that sense. So you've got to do the same thing. 457 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: Look at fuel trim. I know you've got to launch 458 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: scan tool. All right, take a look at long and 459 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: short term fuelture him if fuel trim is at a 460 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: kilter and I'm gonna say, if long term fuel trim 461 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: is over eight percent in short term is bouncing around 462 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: all over the place. Uh you have you have a 463 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: propane set up, Walter, I can't remember I do. I've 464 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: not had much luck with it, to tell you the truth. 465 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: Not Well, maybe it's my ears. At my age, I can't. 466 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: I usually can't tell the difference. Uh. You know when 467 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: when with the idol, when I put the propane on it, 468 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: well no, no, no, no, no no no no end 469 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: smoking something, No, Walter, Well you can smoke this too. 470 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: Smoke is not gonna hurt it. Put the scan tool 471 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: on the car. You want to see something really cool? 472 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: You want to It gives you a real understanding of 473 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: what the propane is doing. Hook the scan tool up 474 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: and only bring up bring up engine rpm going too 475 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: O B D two engine rpm. Short term fuel trim, 476 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: long term fuel trim, and you want to bring up 477 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: the two oxygen sensors or the air fuel and the 478 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: oxygen sensor. Bring up those four or five pits. Shoot 479 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: a little shoot a little propane right down the throat 480 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: of the engine. Watch what happens right through the throttle body. 481 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: Watch what happens. You know whether or not if you've 482 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: got a mass airflow in the way, all right, then 483 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: do it before the mass airflow. You don't want to 484 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: create any unnecessary unmetered air leaks. Watch what happens. Listen. 485 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: A lot of what we go through is technicians and 486 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: diagnosticians is looking at known good all right, look at 487 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: a hundred cars. Look at a hundred known goods, because 488 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: when you get to that one that's like my daughter's escape, 489 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna be scratching your head and you're gonna really 490 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: be thinking about it. So look at this Nissan. And 491 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: this is the worst car to look at right now 492 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: because it's broken, all right, But you know, look at 493 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: fuel trim. See where fuel trim is. If fuel trim 494 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: is off, I'd fix that first because you might fix 495 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: this suction noise. If fuel trim is perfect, And right 496 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: where you expect it to be, and you've proven that 497 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: the engine is running an emissions compliance. I'd smoke the 498 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: exhaust and see if see if that's where your leak 499 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: is coming from. Why not, can't hurt anything or pull 500 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: the manifold. I was thinking of that, just just what 501 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: you said a minute ago. I was thinking of that too. 502 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: Maybe they're cracking uh exhaust manifold that I can't see. 503 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: Maybe it's possible, but smoke would show you that once. 504 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: You want to smoke it first before you took it 505 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: all apart, right, Yeah, Well, I'm going to check the 506 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: fuel trim first, Like you said, I hadn't even thought 507 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: about that, and I had I had the scanner raw 508 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: hooked up and everything, but I just was checking to 509 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: see if there's any current or pending code. The worst 510 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: thing in the world is you have to do this 511 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: stuff alone because people start talking to you, the phone 512 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 1: starts ringing. Uh. You know. That's why I stayed late 513 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: when there was nobody around the shop and I could 514 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: just sit and think and you know, kind of in 515 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: the zone. And that's that's really what you want, you know, 516 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: think about what you're doing. If you want to get 517 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: familiar and comfortable with using propane and fuel trim. Then 518 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: you know, take another car, hook it up to another 519 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: known good car, and you know, shoot some propane down 520 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: his throat. Watch what it does, Watch the response, Watch 521 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: how the sensors a s up. I will do that. I, 522 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: Like I said, I've had very little luck with finding 523 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: any leaks or anything with propane. I end up using 524 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: my homemade smoke machine. I know you don't like homemade smoke. 525 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: That doesn't buy me all that much. Listen, I but 526 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: but but but pre accurate. Right well, listen, whatever works 527 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: for you. But my point is, don't don't count on 528 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: you know, just because you're not hearing the idle speed 529 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: use the scan tool. Yeah you know you're you're listening 530 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: for that. All right, now, you got some homework. I 531 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: expect to hear from you next week, okay, Ron alright, guys, 532 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: stay healthy, you too, Walter, take good care. Zero yes, sir, 533 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: alohaw to you zero zero always been to hear from Walter. 534 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: I'm running any in the car doctor, I'll be back 535 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back, run any of the car doctor. 536 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: Let's get on over and talk to Lean Vermont Lee. 537 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: Welcome upwards, sir how can I help. Well, good afternoon, 538 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: and hope you're doing well. We're trying. How are you 539 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: doing up there? You're okay, doing as as good as 540 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: can be for you know, an old guy watching it 541 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: snow up here. So oh yeah, it's snowing up in 542 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: the north, up up in the northeast today up in 543 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: Maine and Vermont and all that. I understand they're getting 544 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: a couple inches of snow, so Santa is getting ready 545 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: to go. Baby. Yeah. I think farther east and kind 546 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: of farther north, they're going to get a lot more, 547 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: looks like most of the storm path. So that's fine. 548 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: Plenty of times. Anyway, I had emailed earlier in the week, 549 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: and that's obviously why you guys called me back. But 550 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: you know I had to truck in for oil change 551 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: and tire rotation and balance of the tires and oh 552 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: you're down to three millimeters and will give you an 553 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: estimate of for new front breaks well SI and change. 554 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: And I said, I was born at night, but not 555 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: last night. And you know what's ford? What's motorcraft using 556 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: gold specs in their in their in their paths. I mean, 557 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: it just seems to be a little expensive when you 558 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: look around the neighborhood and you can find decent rotors 559 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: and pads, you know, for for well say three fifty 560 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: to four hundred dollars, and you know, an hour and 561 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: a half's worth of labor putting them in. Uh, some 562 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: of my thought was, what's your recommendation and what do 563 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: you see? What are you using this truck for? Lee? Well, 564 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: most well, when things are good, we're we Last year 565 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: I towed it over ten tow to twelve thou pound 566 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: trailer prover. So that's that's my concerns. You know that 567 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: we if if we go again, if things let up, 568 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: Alaska's in the future, and somewhere between here in Alaska 569 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,959 Speaker 1: and where we go, the Rocky Mountains are there, so 570 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: you know it can get some fairly heavy where So, 571 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: So six fifty bucks was from who the four dealer 572 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,959 Speaker 1: or a local shop? Okay, from the four deal board dealer. Alright, 573 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: So you know I always tell everybody break the quote 574 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: down into apples and apples. You know, how much of 575 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: it was labor, how much of it was parts? You know, labor, Yeah, 576 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: about a hundred about five in parts and about an 577 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: hour and a half in labor. Okay, and out of 578 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: that five in parts, that had to be two rotors 579 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: and a set of pads, all right, And then is 580 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: the rotor a liftoff style that it's just a hat 581 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: mounted onto a wheel bearing, I assume, And I don't 582 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: know because I don't play around with that anymore. But 583 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's whatever the standard ford is. And and well, 584 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: because they're they're all different, you know, or not that 585 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: they're all different, but I've learned not to, uh, you know, 586 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: just assume, all right, it's likely just a hat. The 587 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: fact that it's only an hour and a half labor 588 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: or two hours labor, whatever the number is, it's likely 589 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: only a hat. By that, I mean it's a self 590 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: contained bearing and hub and then you just lift the 591 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: rotor on and off and boom you're done. If it 592 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: was more, they'd have to be charging you more in labor. 593 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: So the question becomes, out of the remaining five dollars, 594 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: what are the pads a hundred and fifty bucks and 595 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: the rotors are a hundred seventy bucks. Apiece can break 596 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: it down for me that way, and I and I 597 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: trust the I'm at this dealer because of the mechanics 598 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: there who I trust so, but you gotta ask them. 599 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: You know, listen, you don't mind paying the freight, it's 600 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: just you want to know, why is it so much 601 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: money do this? You want to point a reference, Go 602 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: out to Goodyear Breaks dot Com. You know, we've been 603 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: working with Goodyear Breaks for a while now. They've got 604 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: an excellent break finder, they've got excellent information there. Go 605 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: to Goodyear Breaks dot com. You can look up your 606 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: make model vehicle and they'll give you pricing, I believe 607 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: right there for a bundle. You know, they'll they'll actually 608 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: lump everything together, pads, rotors or pads, rotors, calipers, however 609 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: you want to do it all right, they don't have 610 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: a rotor for the two. They don't. You've been there now. 611 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: They said they will be within the next several months, 612 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: but not right now. But but what I see in 613 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: their price, in their pads and all third, I mean 614 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: they're in the ballpark, I mean, well in the ballpark 615 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: and everybody else that I look at. And I'm looking 616 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: and I didn't do a hell of a lot of research, 617 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: and I looked at some some top brands. You know, 618 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking at anywhere is from about two fifty to 619 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: to just under four for for pads and rotor. Yeah, 620 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: and you they're probably not wrong. It's an F two fifty. 621 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: I'll tell you. At least stay put. Let me pull over, 622 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: take a pause, and when we come back, because I 623 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: understand you've got one more question or comment, we want 624 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about electric cars. It's always 625 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: a pleasure, sir, Stay put, I'm running. Any of the 626 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: car doctor will return right after this. Welcome back the 627 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: car doctor. Leave. We've got about two minutes. You're still there, sir, Yeah, 628 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm still here. Let's let's close the break conversation with 629 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: electric Go ahead, go ahead, get you first. The rotors 630 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: on on the truck the way that I tell. What's 631 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: your thoughts on slotted and drilled rotors? Yeah, I don't 632 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: think you need them. I slotted and drilled rotors are nice, 633 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: don't misunderstand me. But they're not machineable. They're a one 634 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: time thing. You really can't cut them. I've never seen 635 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: or heard stories of people successfully replacing them. And to 636 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: tell you the truth, I think you're just better off 637 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: buying a good quality replacement, or if you catch it 638 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: early enough and the rotors have no other Um, what's 639 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: the word I'm looking for. Have no other. Uh, they're 640 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: not falling apart. There's no salt, no corrosion, no delamination. 641 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: That's the word, you know, as much as you were 642 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: not supposed to do it. Perhaps a set of pads 643 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: and clean and loud the slides and a gentle pad 644 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: break in just to see the reaction. If you want 645 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: to try a science project, if you can get those 646 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: new pads to seed in without replacing rotors, you're okay. 647 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,719 Speaker 1: We like to replace rotors, but again it depends on 648 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: condition of rotor. You've got to leave that up to 649 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: the attending technician, because sometimes all the truck rotors just 650 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: get to be read Culus money. I got a minute 651 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: in ten seconds. Electric cars, real quick electric cars. My 652 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 1: thought is one of the things that I can drive, 653 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 1: you know, four hundred miles to six hundred, well three 654 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: hundred to four hundred miles on a tankful of gas 655 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: in fifteen to twenty minutes, I can reload and I'm 656 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: going again. Um, that to me is a key thing 657 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: if I want to drive, you know, a day's drive 658 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: to a six hundred mile drive. Do I have to 659 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: stop and spend the night every four hundred miles. I 660 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: mean again talking about a truck and telling a trailer 661 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 1: gobs and gobs of torque, you know, with the electric 662 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: motors as versus the gas engine. But you know, how 663 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: do I get it recharged? So you know, I get 664 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: to the campground. Are they going to put another pedestal in? 665 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: We're talking about going to Alaska. There's places and where 666 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: we're going up there there's no electricity. Well that's that's right, 667 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: and the issue will become do we have the grid 668 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: in the infrastructure to support this. December the first, an 669 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: article by Brian Preston talks about Elon Musk's eating that 670 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: Tesla and it starts like this. Tesla chief executive Elon 671 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: Musk said on Tuesday, this is December one this year 672 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: that electricity consumption will double if the world's car fleets 673 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: are electrified. Increasingly need to expand nuclear, solar, geo, thermal 674 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: and when energy generating sources. Something I've been saying for years, 675 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: where's all the electricity gonna come from? Hey? Great, you 676 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,439 Speaker 1: know what, I want to be eighteen years old again 677 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: and and start all over. It ain't gonna happen, just 678 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: like electricity is not going to appear out of the sky. 679 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: I'm on an Ani in the car doctor. Thanks late, 680 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: I'm on an Ani in the car Doctor, reminding you 681 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See