WEBVTT - Allen Craig On Cardinal Territory

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody, and welcome to another edition of Cardinal Territory.

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<v Speaker 1>And today we have a very special guest. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>twoy and eleven World Series champion. Right now he works

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<v Speaker 1>as part of baseball ops for the San Diego Padres.

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinal Finn certainly know him. He is Alan Craig hi Allen.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up, Jim kat Hayes. Good to see you, man,

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to see I want to start by catching up

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<v Speaker 1>because it's been a little while. You're part of the

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<v Speaker 1>Padres organization, have been for a while. Tell us a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about what you do for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is my eighth season with the with the Padres.

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<v Speaker 2>They signed me as a minor league free agent back

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty eighteen. I played in Triple A that year

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<v Speaker 2>and then they hired me to be in the front office.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, for the past eight years. My roles you know,

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<v Speaker 2>evolved and changed quite a bit over those years. The

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<v Speaker 2>last three years have been you know, kind of focused

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<v Speaker 2>on you know, the major league team and working around

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<v Speaker 2>ops around the major league team and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>doing a lot of different things. You know, been blessed

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<v Speaker 2>to be a part of the Potter's organization. They've allowed

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<v Speaker 2>me to you know, be exposed to pretty much every

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<v Speaker 2>department within the front office, and you know, gained a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good understanding of you know, what it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>looks like behind the scenes, you know, you know in

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<v Speaker 2>the front office with scouting, amateur scouting, pro scouting, player development,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in the Major league ops around the team. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, blessed to have the opportunity and learn. I

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<v Speaker 2>love the game and love to continue to learn about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So excited for the for the opportunities they've given me.

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<v Speaker 2>So sounds great.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, I know you're also a girl dad, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a couple of girls. Been a while, so

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<v Speaker 1>tell me about when you're not working the day to day.

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<v Speaker 2>For Alan Craig. Yeah, so I have three girls and

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<v Speaker 2>I have a son who's three years old. Now, so

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<v Speaker 2>I have four kids, and I lost my oldest time flies.

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<v Speaker 2>You look up and the World Series was fifteen years ago, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, I have three girls. I have a

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen year old, a ten year old, a seven year old,

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<v Speaker 2>and then my son's three. So yeah, you know, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, family is my my number one priority,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, my wife and I are on you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the full circuit of you know, taking our girls to

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<v Speaker 2>horseback riding, taking them to school. My middle daughter plays basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, my son loves to hit, throw and

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<v Speaker 2>play basketball in the front yard, backyard, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we live busy lives and we love it. So we

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<v Speaker 2>have a great combination of you know, family life and

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<v Speaker 2>and baseball life. You know, I'm blessed that my family

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<v Speaker 2>loves baseball. My wife loves baseball, my kids love baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, when I'm working, it doesn't really feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm working. They enjoy being around the park and

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<v Speaker 2>doing all that stuff. So you know, us for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect perfect Now if your kids realize but they hit

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<v Speaker 1>the genetic lottery with you being one of the parents.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we have Matt Holliday on our show quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bit. His kids turned out pretty good. Kyle Gibson's

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<v Speaker 1>kid apparently it's pretty good. Are your kids showing the

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<v Speaker 1>athletic ability that leads you to believe there might be

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<v Speaker 1>college or something else in their future?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they are athletic, you know, believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 2>There is some athleticism that goes into horseback writing. And

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<v Speaker 2>my oldest daughter is you know, pretty accomplished in horseback

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<v Speaker 2>riding and that's kind of her thing, and she wants

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<v Speaker 2>to go on and be a nurse. My middle daughter

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<v Speaker 2>loves basketball and you know she's I think she's got

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to be pretty good. You know, she continues

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<v Speaker 2>to love it and work hard at it. My youngest

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<v Speaker 2>daughter is actually she's seven, and she's just picking up

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<v Speaker 2>a baseball bat for the first time, and she wants

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<v Speaker 2>me to work with her swing. And I mean she's

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<v Speaker 2>improving like daily, so you know, there's definitely some sneaky

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<v Speaker 2>apple this isn't in there. And then you know, my

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<v Speaker 2>son is asking me to hit and throw every single day,

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<v Speaker 2>like I mentioned, and you know, he's got a nice

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<v Speaker 2>little lefty swing and you know, he basically thinks he's

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<v Speaker 2>on the Padres team, and it's it's the coolest thing

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<v Speaker 2>to watch him watch the games, ask me amazing questions

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<v Speaker 2>as a three year old, and you know, you can

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<v Speaker 2>see that love for the game just sparking, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's awesome. So we'll see, we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, my kids, my kids love sports.

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<v Speaker 1>My my son is seventeen. He's a pitcher and he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't listen to anything I tell him about baseball, even

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<v Speaker 1>though he've been around the game a little bit, he

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<v Speaker 1>does not listen at all. So enjoy while they're little,

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<v Speaker 1>because at some point they might not listen to you,

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<v Speaker 1>even though you're Alan Craig.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think cardinal fans watching this have one big question.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about your your your time as a cardinal

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<v Speaker 1>in a little bit, but they want to know how

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<v Speaker 1>is to.

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<v Speaker 2>Toty is amazing? He's uh, you know, he's living life

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<v Speaker 2>at his own pace, like I always say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not in a hurry to get to too many places.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I can I could promise the fans

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<v Speaker 2>out there that he's well taken care of, he's fed well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's socialized well with the people that come

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<v Speaker 2>and visit him, and uh, you know, he's doing he's

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<v Speaker 2>doing great. He's uh, you know, the best pet that

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<v Speaker 2>that anyone could have. For sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you told me that he got a visit from

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<v Speaker 1>another piece of cardinal folklore recently.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me about that. Please, Well I can't I can't

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<v Speaker 2>share his location that's undisclosed, but his caretakers, his caretakers

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<v Speaker 2>put up a a a camera just to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that he's being taken care of, that he's eating his food,

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<v Speaker 2>and he he had a visit last week. From it

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<v Speaker 2>looks like the rally squirrel. That's no joke and that's

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<v Speaker 2>not AI that that is not AI generated. I can

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<v Speaker 2>promise everyone that Rally Scroll showed up and met Torty

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<v Speaker 2>for the first time. So stars are aligning in some fashion.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't really get it, but that was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome, right, uh, real quick. The Cardinals are in

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<v Speaker 1>a reset, right you understand as part of baseball that

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<v Speaker 1>they made some changes at the top of they're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be a recent they're playing pretty good baseball as

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<v Speaker 1>an opponent as my brother padres. Just your view of

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<v Speaker 1>what the Cardinals have going on, Yeah, well, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>It's It's part of the beauty of baseball is that

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<v Speaker 2>you never really know. You know, you got to go

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<v Speaker 2>out there and play and you know, we can make

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<v Speaker 2>projections on how things are going to play out and

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<v Speaker 2>this and that, but you got to play the games.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I have two of my closest friends, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in baseball in life over there working for

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<v Speaker 2>the Cardinals in John Jay and Daniel Descalzo, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>got to know Ali over the years, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's clearly a lot of good things going on behind

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<v Speaker 2>the scenes. You know, I don't know exactly what they're

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<v Speaker 2>what processes or anything like that, but as someone observing

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<v Speaker 2>from the outside, you know, I'm excited for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my two friends, you know, to be succeeding at a

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk to you about your career as

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<v Speaker 1>a cardinal, and I guess the best place to start,

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<v Speaker 1>right would be twenty and eleven when you guys won

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<v Speaker 1>it all. I'm thinking about what you did in World

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<v Speaker 1>Series Game seven against Texas, right. I remember you catching

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<v Speaker 1>the final out and running in almost like on a

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<v Speaker 1>cloud with John J big smiles on your face after

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<v Speaker 1>you guys had done that. But you also homered in

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<v Speaker 1>the game. Believe you rob Nelson Cruz of a home

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<v Speaker 1>run in that game. When you think about two thy

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<v Speaker 1>and eleven in that magical run, what stands out to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Austy have like two or three hours to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>all the stories and how we got to that game seven.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I think about I think about a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of things. You know, It's funny that you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>bring it up. I actually, my wife and I threw

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<v Speaker 2>on the World Series DVD for our kids yesterday, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we we try to watch it like one

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<v Speaker 2>time a year. You know. It's not it's not about like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>look at what dad did or this and that, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's about there's so many amazing storylines of resilience and

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<v Speaker 2>competitiveness and you know, working through failure and all that

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<v Speaker 2>stuff you know that went on that I'm able to

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<v Speaker 2>bring color to you knows as their dad and somebody

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<v Speaker 2>that experienced it firsthand. So that's probably like the first

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<v Speaker 2>thing that comes to my mind is just like team resilience,

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<v Speaker 2>individual resilience, you know, WANO having to have Tommy john

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<v Speaker 2>in the beginning of the year as our number one starter,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, myself, David Freeze, Albert Poohols all broke bones

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the season and came back and

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<v Speaker 2>recovered and were contributors to the to the World Series team.

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<v Speaker 2>And then being down you know, to our last strike,

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<v Speaker 2>our last out, you know, twice, and you know, having

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<v Speaker 2>the Lance Berkman come through, you know with his focus

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<v Speaker 2>and calm, you know, in the face of pressure, and

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<v Speaker 2>then obviously what what data did you know twice multiple times,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, over that whole playoff run and specifically with

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<v Speaker 2>the triple the right field, you know, and the walk

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<v Speaker 2>off home run in Game six. You know, there's just

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<v Speaker 2>amazing storylines and that's that's probably what I look at

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<v Speaker 2>the most, is just you know, the team, the team aspect,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for me individually, just being able to start

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<v Speaker 2>Game seven and left field and just have the have

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<v Speaker 2>the game come my way like that and be able

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<v Speaker 2>to capitalize in those moments is something that I'll that

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<v Speaker 2>I'll never forget. With the with the go ahead home

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<v Speaker 2>run and robbing a home run and being able to

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<v Speaker 2>catch the last out. I mean, it's just something that

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<v Speaker 2>that you can't really draw up. And you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>last thing I'll say about Game seven that that was

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<v Speaker 2>just amazingly special, is you know I mentioned Jay and

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<v Speaker 2>and Daniel earlier. I'm just at my relationship with them,

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<v Speaker 2>how close I am with them. You know, you look

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<v Speaker 2>back to that ninth inning and you know, Jay caught

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<v Speaker 2>the first out in center, Daniel got the second out

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<v Speaker 2>of third, and then I caught the final out. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know I said this before and probably told it

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<v Speaker 2>to you, but it's like that's that's like storybook stuff

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<v Speaker 2>and things just don't happen like that, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>just a special time and it's very special.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Memphis Mafia impact on that ball club. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinal fans love that you're part of a Cardinal folklore.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll be honest with you, if if that was me,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have that DVD running on a loop twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four to seven am. I. It's not something that would

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<v Speaker 1>play I would have. So tell me your view of

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<v Speaker 1>tell me your view of the Freeze Triple, probably probably

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<v Speaker 1>the most famous of anything that happened that year. What

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<v Speaker 1>was your view of that? Because the story came out later,

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<v Speaker 1>the cruise kind of came in a little because he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get to the celebration.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you remember about mm hmm, Well, I may

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<v Speaker 2>be wrong. I believe that I had just struck out

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<v Speaker 2>right before that, So I was like disappointed and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>put putting my helmet away and like making my way

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<v Speaker 2>back up to the top step to root for him,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it just happens fast, you know, and you

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<v Speaker 2>see the ball off his bat, and you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>being a guy that is shagged and shagged fly balls

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<v Speaker 2>in right field with David hitting you know, the extra

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<v Speaker 2>juice that he has that way, and you know the

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<v Speaker 2>extra carry that he has, so like right when he

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<v Speaker 2>hit it, you know, I knew it was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a close play, but I felt pretty good about

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<v Speaker 2>it the way the ball comes off his bat, So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it was a really tough play for Nelson

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<v Speaker 2>to make. I think that that he gets, you know, unfairly,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, some criticism for not making that play, but

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people don't realize like how far back

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<v Speaker 2>you need to go to to to get that ball,

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<v Speaker 2>how tough it is to like make a play up

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<v Speaker 2>against the wall, and how much carried David's ball at

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<v Speaker 2>actually has. So there's a culmination of a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 2>and David was did an outstanding job coming through for

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<v Speaker 2>the team.

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<v Speaker 5>There.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a quick break here. Our guest

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<v Speaker 1>is Alan Craig. When we come back, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>Two thousand and thirteen. You hit three fifteen. Uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>knocked in ninety seven runs and I have to go

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<v Speaker 1>back and like double check this because I remember it,

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<v Speaker 1>But it does. You hit four fifty four, let's runners

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<v Speaker 1>and scoring position, four fifty four with runners in scoring?

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<v Speaker 1>Where does that come from? You were always a guide

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<v Speaker 1>known as clutch. What do you think that came from?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wanted to be up there, cap, I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to be up there hitting. You know, the great thing

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<v Speaker 2>about baseball is that when the game calls on you

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<v Speaker 2>to be up, you're up and no one can help you. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>You're out there on an island and you got it.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta want it. You gotta want those opportunities. And

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like over the majority of my career, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to be that guy that wanted to be

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<v Speaker 2>in the spot too to drive in runs. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like I had the right preparation that went into, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>coming through in those at bats. I had the right approach,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had a really good mentality, you know, to

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<v Speaker 2>drive the ball consistently through the middle of the field.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, when I felt like there was a

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<v Speaker 2>fastball over the plate, I was ready to go on

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<v Speaker 2>it and uh and make something happened. And uh, you

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<v Speaker 2>know a lot of it goes to like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>selfishly wanting to be the guy that that drives in

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<v Speaker 2>the run, but but doing it the right way and

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<v Speaker 2>setting up the teammate behind me with a with an

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<v Speaker 2>easy at bat too. You know, I think there's a

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<v Speaker 2>selfish way to go about it and a selfless way

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<v Speaker 2>to go about it. And I felt like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I had developed an approach that that really helped me.

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<v Speaker 2>And and honestly, I looked back to my time with Tony,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I connected with Tony like, you know

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<v Speaker 2>very well, the way that he spoke, the way that

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<v Speaker 2>he thought about the game, like, you know, psychologically, and

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<v Speaker 2>the time invested you know that him and Big Mac

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<v Speaker 2>invested into us as hitters on the on the mental side,

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<v Speaker 2>and to be able to focus and come through in

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<v Speaker 2>those situations like really help me a lot, and it

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<v Speaker 2>pay paid dividends on the highest stage. So I'm thankful

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<v Speaker 2>for the opportunity to be around those guys as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the thing that Ali says about guys like

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<v Speaker 1>you zero heart rate, like you can have the best intentions,

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<v Speaker 1>you can have the motivation, the drive, but if you're

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<v Speaker 1>in those moments and and you're maybe too emotional or

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<v Speaker 1>want it too badly, it might not work out. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>did you feel that way when you're at the plate,

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<v Speaker 1>you were able to quiet everything down and just focus?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, for sure. I mean everyone gets nervous, right,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone gets you know, a little too energetic, And that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of where it all starts, is like before you

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<v Speaker 2>get on deck, and while you're on deck, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>you have to have the awareness of where you're at zickly, mentally,

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<v Speaker 2>emotionally and find a way to like regulate yourself, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's something that you know, during that time period,

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<v Speaker 2>it felt like I was really able to do at

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<v Speaker 2>a at a high level. You know, you know the situation,

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<v Speaker 2>you know can dictate your emotions, but but you know

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<v Speaker 2>you can't. You can't let that happen so too.

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<v Speaker 1>September twenty and thirteen, I think you're rounding first base

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<v Speaker 1>and you hurt your foot, and no one knew at

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<v Speaker 1>the time that was going.

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<v Speaker 2>To be a real serious injury.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you remember about that moment where it first

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<v Speaker 1>happened and what were they telling you about the about

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<v Speaker 1>the foot situation?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I remember the play like it was yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>We were down a runner two and I hit a

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<v Speaker 2>hard ground ball in Cincinnati in the four hoole and

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<v Speaker 2>Bottom made a great diving play and you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>made a really tough throw over Bronson Arroyo's head, and

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<v Speaker 2>I believe Beltron was on seconds, so he came around

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<v Speaker 2>to score, and you know, I was I was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to bust my butt to get to get the second

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<v Speaker 2>base so we get the tying run or go ahead run.

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<v Speaker 2>I forget, forget the exact situation, but you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was one of those players where I was busting down

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<v Speaker 2>the line to try to beat the throw. There was

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<v Speaker 2>a poor throw, and then I just tried to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>make a left turn a little bit too quick before

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<v Speaker 2>I got my legs under me, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just too much, too much momentum, and my

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<v Speaker 2>foot my foot rolled over and uh, I knew it

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty serious like right away. So yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a It was a tough injury, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, to be honest, you came back in

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<v Speaker 1>the World Series. Uh, some folks that maybe came back

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<v Speaker 1>too soon, but the Alan Craig that was crushing baseballs,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't quite the same after that was that foot injury.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing you think kind of put you on a

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<v Speaker 1>on a different.

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<v Speaker 2>Track, I would I would say, so, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I would say it was the catalyst and like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the beginning of uh, you know, things to

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<v Speaker 2>come as something that I you know, I obviously played

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<v Speaker 2>well that World Series, you know, on a on a

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<v Speaker 2>poor foot, but you know, I also had a significant

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<v Speaker 2>knee injury back on twenty eleven, where I fractured my kneecap.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, when you have two, you know, significant

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<v Speaker 2>lower body injuries like that, it's you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to catch up with you at some point, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, while you're going through it, it's

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<v Speaker 2>really hard to pinpoint. I say, when you're going through

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<v Speaker 2>a struggle, it can be tough to pinpoint what's exactly

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<v Speaker 2>going on. But when you have two physical injuries like that,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to lead into you know, mental and emotional

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<v Speaker 2>things like down the road. And you know that's something

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<v Speaker 2>that I definitely definitely struggle with, you know, that twenty

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen season, you know, and then after the trade in Boston,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it was something that you know, really just

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<v Speaker 2>caught up caught up with me. I fought it and

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<v Speaker 2>and tried to improve and I put up some some

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<v Speaker 2>decent numbers in Boston and had a really really strong

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<v Speaker 2>finish with the Padres in twenty eighteen in Triple A.

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<v Speaker 2>So so yeah, I mean it could take two hours

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about, you know, what happened and all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, the foot injury was was definitely significant, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you talked about you know, coming back too

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<v Speaker 2>soon and playing in the World Series, like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>definitely did come back too soon. But that's something that

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<v Speaker 2>that I wanted to do. I was on a long

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<v Speaker 2>term extension with the Cardinals, and you know, between myself

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<v Speaker 2>and and Mo and the training staff, we talked about,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if we can make it to the World

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<v Speaker 2>Series and if I can just stand in the box

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<v Speaker 2>and hit, then I'm going to come and do that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm willing to sacrifice whatever happens in the future

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<v Speaker 2>for that. And you know, I was, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest cheerleader for our team, you know, during that run

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<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs to get to the World Series, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and and came back for the World Series.

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<v Speaker 2>It was funny. I remember, you know, before that, before

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<v Speaker 2>that World Series started, before they were going to activate me.

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<v Speaker 2>They basically like you know, wanted me to go take

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<v Speaker 2>live at bats against Heimigercia Lance Lane. I think Karp

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<v Speaker 2>was thrown at that time to basically show, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that I could still hit, and I hit really really well,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it was pretty clear for them that

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<v Speaker 2>I could contribute to that World Series team. And the

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<v Speaker 2>rest is kind of history, you know, whatever happened in

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<v Speaker 2>my career after that, Like I can look myself in

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<v Speaker 2>the mirror and say that I gave it all that

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<v Speaker 2>I had and you know, didn't leave any stone unturned.

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<v Speaker 1>You've had, obviously the highs and the lows in your

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<v Speaker 1>major league career. In your current position, I know there's

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<v Speaker 1>a time where you're working with players too, and even

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<v Speaker 1>some minor leaguers. What do you tell like a young

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<v Speaker 1>prospect who hasn't been through it yet, when you share

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<v Speaker 1>your experience, you know, being at the very top and

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<v Speaker 1>then having a battle through some things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that, you know, I tell players that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you haven't struggled in this game, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you just haven't played long enough. Like it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>happen at some point. It's and it's how you respond

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<v Speaker 2>to it, you know. And I think that like The

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<v Speaker 2>biggest thing that goes into that is you know, always

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<v Speaker 2>keeping yourself in the mindset of, you know, being able

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<v Speaker 2>to make the proper adjustments at the right time. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not always an overhaul and your offensive game or

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<v Speaker 2>defensive game like sometimes it is, but most likely it isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can make the small adjustments as you go

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<v Speaker 2>game to game, pitch to pitch and all that, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>find yourself, you know, in a really good spot. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, one thing that I've seen over the years

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<v Speaker 2>and the players that I've been around, is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the players that have success at a high level and

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<v Speaker 2>do it for a long time, they know who they

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<v Speaker 2>are as players and their identity and what they're good at,

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<v Speaker 2>what they're not good at, and they're able to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>have real communication with their coaches about you know, getting better.

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<v Speaker 2>They're able to filter in the good information and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of put the bad information aside. They're able to ask

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<v Speaker 2>good questions to their coaches, and they're able to have

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<v Speaker 2>like real conversations, real back and forth. You know, the

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<v Speaker 2>players that you do everything that a coach says, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>tend to struggle at times and on the other end

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<v Speaker 2>of the spectrum of the players that don't like, don't

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<v Speaker 2>listen to coaches, are not coachable. Those guys struggle as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's you know, from minor leaguers for anybody really,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, you know, where's that balance and how can

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<v Speaker 2>you strike it?

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<v Speaker 1>See, baseball is this is the last thing by the

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<v Speaker 1>way them We'll let you go. But baseball to me

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<v Speaker 1>is always evolving. But in many cases it's cyclical, like

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<v Speaker 1>it evolves into something that it was doing ten twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. It always seems that something comes back. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're around baseball now with your current position, how is

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<v Speaker 1>baseball different now then back when you were a young

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<v Speaker 1>player coming into your.

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<v Speaker 2>Own Yeah, I think there's just clearly, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>elephant in the room is that there's a lot more

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<v Speaker 2>you know, data and statistics around the game, and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more information that's making its way to players. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>that can be good and bad. You know, in my experience,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, with the padres, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I've gotten pretty well versed in a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>different data points and I understand it, you know, at

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<v Speaker 2>a at a pretty high level, and you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of just comes down to like how that information

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<v Speaker 2>is being given to the players. Is is it being

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<v Speaker 2>given to them in a way that they can you know,

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<v Speaker 2>actually like apply to their game. And I think that, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we do a pretty decent job of that,

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<v Speaker 2>but clearly, like the numbers are different. You know. The

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<v Speaker 2>one thing that I'll say with that question is that, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the fundamentals of the game, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>believe remain you know, and as the game speeds up

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<v Speaker 2>and there's more numbers and this and that, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's like even more important to like double down on

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<v Speaker 2>the fundamentals of the game, you know, offensively, defensively, pitching

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<v Speaker 2>you know, always comes down to like throwing strikes, getting strikeouts,

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<v Speaker 2>putting the ball in play and and all that. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's how I answer that one. Kat No, I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. Hey, Alan, it's great seeing We appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you spending half hour or so with us. Just know, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a padre now, but Cardinal Fins never forget, never forget,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're always part of that Memphis mafia. And when

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals come back to town and I returned to my

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<v Speaker 1>other job, I will say hi to your boys for you, cause, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys were fun to watch and uh, you're right

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<v Speaker 1>descalso and John Jay your grave so we appreciate that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for the.

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<v Speaker 2>Time, my friend. Hey Jim, thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>I always love I always love seeing and talking ball

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<v Speaker 2>with you. You're you're the best. You do a great job, man, Thank.

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<v Speaker 1>You, You're you're the best. All right, that's gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>it for this edition of Cardinal Territory. We'll see it

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<v Speaker 1>for the next episode. Hopefully that one won't suck.