1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Native lamdpod is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership with 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Resent Choice Media. 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 3: Welcome home. 5 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: Y'all, This is Guess It, Episode fifty four of Native Lampod, 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: where we break down all things politics, culture, you name it, 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: we got it. We are your hosts. I'm Andrew Gillum. 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: I'm joined by my two favorites, Tiffany Cross and Angela Raie. 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. I hope we're doing well and can't 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: wait to get into the show. All right, ladies, so 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: what's on your agenda for today? Top of mind? I 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: can start by timply saying I know confirmations appointments are 13 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: in the process. I would love, love, love to just 14 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: do a quick, quick and dirty on what are recess appointments, 15 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: how do they happen? And what power does the Congress 16 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: have in the face of threats from Donald Trump? 17 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 4: What you got to I will have questions for you 18 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 4: about that. I have a lot of questions about recess appointments, 19 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 4: but I also want to talk about the idea of 20 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 4: this biblic quote curriculum being taught in schools. You know, 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 4: in the news this week but there are a lot 22 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 4: of other states that are trying to push this as well. 23 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, ay, Rob, what's on your mind? 24 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 5: Where we go from here? I think that we kind 25 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 5: of left hanging in our last episode if it was 26 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 5: even necessary to continue the podcast? Should we continue? And 27 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 5: I think we have a lot of questions out there 28 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 5: about what we're doing, and I think it's important for 29 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 5: us to address what we're thinking because I think it 30 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 5: probably changes by the minute for all of us. So 31 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 5: that's what I want to talk about today. 32 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, y'all. Well, Lessen, let's get to it 33 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: on the topic of where we go from here. I 34 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: appreciate you bringing that up, Angela, because I was, I'm 35 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: sure as you all were, really just overwhelmed by our community. 36 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: I know that we've all known, and we brag about 37 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: it all the time, how incredible the listeners and viewers 38 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: are of this show and how much of a family 39 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: we feel we have cultivated up to this point. Their 40 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: responses have been incredible, and if you haven't been able 41 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: to check them out, I'd love for us to just 42 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: quickly maybe visit a few of them. Let's see what 43 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: we got. 44 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 3: Was a good Native lampod once again. I'm Lawrence and 45 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: I'm in Dallas. I want to address the question posed 46 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: at the end of today's episode. I just finished watching. 47 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 3: I don't think you guys should stop. As a matter 48 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 3: of fact, I think you have an obligation to continue. 49 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 3: Three of my friends, and this is very personal to me. 50 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 3: Three of my friends were not engaged in politics, didn't 51 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: really care about politics. But you know, a couple of 52 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 3: times we shared a blunt and listened to the Native 53 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 3: Lamp pod on my balcony. Not only did they get 54 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 3: registered for this most recent election, but we had all 55 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 3: kinds of conversations about local politics and they voted. They 56 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 3: actually voted, and you guys were instrumental in that. 57 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 6: Love that. 58 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 3: So, not only do I believe that you should continue 59 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 3: the podcast, but I believe it's going to be absolutely necessary, 60 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 3: especially for the next four years, not only instructing people, 61 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 3: but kind of delivering education when it is obviously much needed. 62 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 4: I want to hang out with him and his friends. 63 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: On that day, on that day, that other day, were you. 64 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 5: Running another clip ag or that was that was the 65 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 5: one you wanted to see? I thought you said run 66 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 5: a few of them. 67 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: I thought that they had put together a few of them, 68 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: but hearing the diversity. 69 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 4: Okay, another one. 70 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 7: Hey guys, it's Don from Houston, Texas, and I just 71 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 7: finished your episode, the first one post selection that I 72 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 7: have been frantically waiting on if I'm being honest, and 73 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 7: in response to your question on whether or not you 74 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 7: guys should continue the podcast, to put it bluntly, because 75 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 7: I've already made two videos that are too long. Absolutely hell, Yes, 76 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 7: we need you. We need the information. We need the 77 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 7: sensitivity to us, to our culture, to our people, and 78 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 7: your work that you've done even before this podcast and 79 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 7: that you continue to do through it is going to 80 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 7: be in strumental for those of us who are not 81 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 7: interested in watching cable news, who don't trust the mainstream 82 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 7: media anymore, who want to know the truth about what 83 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 7: is happening around us and in our politics. I have shared, you, 84 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 7: guys with so many people, so many young people who 85 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 7: just don't have any interest in politics, and. 86 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 5: They've gotten hooked. 87 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 7: Regardless if you reach the quote unquote masses, the community 88 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 7: that is here needs you, and we are fairly or 89 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 7: unfairly going to lean on you guys for that explanation, 90 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 7: for that guide, for that conversation that is downright uncomfortable 91 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 7: at times. 92 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: Wow, wow, y'all. I think, as you know, that's a 93 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: sampling of the many, many, many, not to mention the 94 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: written form comments that have come in. And I really 95 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: what resonates with me, and I'm gonna toss it over 96 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: to you, Angela. Was the obligation part of it? I actually, 97 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: you know, as they say in church, you can say 98 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: amen or out. I have both an amen and an 99 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: ouch in response to that. But I receive I receive 100 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: that appointment, which is you can't bring folks to a 101 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: certain place. And then all of a sudden, you know, like, oh, okay, 102 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: you got this because you know, I can't take this 103 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: kind of stuff right now, that there there's an obligatory 104 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: you know, component to this. But I'd love to hear, 105 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: love to hear what's been moving through your mind. 106 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 5: Here right I am. I'm very emotional. I think that 107 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 5: I feel the obligation. I feel frustrated, honestly with myself, 108 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 5: because I spent so much time over the last couple 109 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 5: of weeks just focusing on the half that I hate 110 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 5: right now, like the half of the country that I despise, 111 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 5: and I and and I'm frustrated about that, because you 112 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 5: don't get understanding through frustration and hate. And I think 113 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 5: that what I feel guilty about is knowing that there's 114 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 5: an obligation to a whole other half, you know, of 115 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 5: the country, and feeling like there has to be a conversation, 116 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 5: you know, a come to Jesus, as they say, with 117 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 5: so many people, because we are really not on the 118 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 5: same page. And I am at a loss at this 119 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 5: point for how to get there, and so I hate 120 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 5: I think, you guys know, I'm fiercely competitive over all 121 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 5: kinds of ridiculous things. But what I really don't like 122 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 5: to do is I don't mind saying I don't know. 123 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 5: I don't mind admitting I don't know. I hate not 124 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 5: knowing for an extended period of time and feeling like 125 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 5: the overwhelm of I don't know where to turn to 126 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 5: find the answer, right, Like I don't even know if 127 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 5: at this point people will be honest about their reasons 128 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 5: for voting for the other side, or if they'll be 129 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 5: honest about who they really voted for, because they probably 130 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 5: know us or have seen us and wouldn't feel comfortable 131 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 5: telling us the truth. So where do you go to solve? 132 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 5: And I don't know when you're not even confident that 133 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 5: people will be honest with you, you know what I mean? 134 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 5: And it's like the weight of that. We were in 135 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 5: our group chat earlier, and I'm sorry if I'm flailing. 136 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 5: I'm trying to make sense. We were in our group 137 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 5: chat earlier. And by the way, group chats are not 138 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 5: triggering to me because I feel like, when are we 139 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 5: just another echo chamber where we're in our own bubble, 140 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 5: because now we're all getting off Twitter, because now Twitter 141 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 5: is going to be the hellscape, and now who are 142 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 5: we going to talk to beyond our bubbles? Because we 143 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 5: all think at least similar, maybe not the same, but 144 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 5: similar Anyway, I degress. My point is we were in 145 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 5: a group chat earlier and there's this conversation about if 146 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 5: the Rainbow Coalition essentially is a thing, like are we 147 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 5: going to all be able to come together as people 148 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 5: of color and do the damn thing? And the conversation 149 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 5: was like, no, I don't think it's a thing, and 150 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 5: I can't lose that hope. Like if we lose that hope, 151 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 5: we don't have a path, y'all, Like we really don't 152 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 5: if we cannot figure out how to be in coalition, 153 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 5: in solidarity on multiple challenges, on multiple fronts, for multiple 154 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 5: policy issues. We are. We are, Like, there's not a 155 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 5: nice way for me to say, Dad, sorry, I had 156 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 5: to custody. There's no other way for me to explain it. 157 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 5: We are. If there's no coalition, if there is no 158 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 5: coming together for a larger group, there is no path 159 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 5: to victory. And I don't want to lose. I don't 160 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 5: want to lose twos. 161 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 4: I am well. I just want to say this about 162 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 4: the coalition building because as you all know, I've talked 163 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 4: about it on this show and in everything I've done, 164 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 4: I have believed in the multi racial coalition. I've always 165 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 4: said I have the Fred Hampton approach, like bring everybody along. 166 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 4: Unless you know we align, we can win. I want 167 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 4: to caution us because exit polling data is not the 168 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 4: most reliable, and we were cautioned in our group chat 169 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 4: by that. But what I saw was jarring to me 170 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 4: to see so many people of color align with oppressive 171 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 4: policies and oppressive issues, and it quite frankly broke my heart. 172 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 4: And I have been in the throes of re examining 173 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 4: my entire worldview around it, and I haven't landed in 174 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 4: a place. So I would love to thumbtack that because 175 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 4: I think that's something when we have some actual data 176 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 4: I would love to discuss. Right now, I'm like, don't 177 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 4: talk to me right now, you know, like, wait until 178 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 4: I see the data. But I right now, I am 179 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 4: not building coalitions right now. Right now, I need to 180 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 4: be in the safety and comfort of my community. And 181 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 4: I hope, to Angelou's point, that we can get to 182 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 4: a place and give me a few months. I hope 183 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 4: we can get to a place where we can lock 184 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 4: arms and build. I want to say too, though, about 185 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 4: hating or despising, you know, one half of the country, 186 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 4: I don't believe it's one half of the country. I 187 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 4: think we have to consider how many people actually participate 188 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 4: in the voting process, and so of that small group 189 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 4: of people, sadly, it's a small percentage of Americans who 190 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 4: actually vote. Half of that vote, Joseph vote for Donald 191 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 4: Trump for president. And I'm okay despising them, you know, 192 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 4: like I and I think Angela, you have give yourself 193 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 4: some grace in that too. You know, you go through 194 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 4: your process, your process of grief and emotion and everything 195 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 4: you're going through. But you know, we cannot always extend 196 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 4: and all of brain to bigots. We cannot always come 197 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 4: to an understanding with people who either adopt racist beliefs 198 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 4: or are okay with racist beliefs. I don't know how 199 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 4: the two are different. So I just don't have this, uh, 200 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 4: this desire to understand that half. I don't think I'm 201 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 4: in a bubble. I try to consume a lot of 202 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 4: information from right wing outlets as well, not regularly, but 203 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 4: I think I dealt with white folks long enough and 204 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 4: know enough white folks that I'm pretty clear on how 205 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 4: people feel. The people of color piece is something that 206 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 4: I have curiosity about. So I just am so grateful 207 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 4: that people do respect and have happily and joyfully joined 208 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 4: the community that we built here. Like I said, it's 209 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 4: not a podcast, we built community. I think that's reflected, 210 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 4: and I think it will be reflected in this political cycle. 211 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 4: I think we will see we saw a huge spike 212 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 4: and people tuning in to this episode. We saw a 213 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 4: huge spike and people who watched our mini pod on 214 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 4: what happened. I think those numbers will continue to grow 215 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 4: exponentially because the news media has painfully failed everybody, and 216 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 4: so people are going to different sources, and so I'm 217 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 4: I'm honored to share in space with you guys, and 218 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 4: I take the responsibility very seriously, and so when we 219 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 4: are here, I want to be sure that we are 220 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 4: presenting the most clear, accurate information that you guys get 221 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 4: to hear a diverse perspective. Y'all. See, we don't agree 222 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 4: on a lot. This is this here I do not 223 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 4: think is an echo chamber. I think we have very 224 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 4: different opinions, perspectives, things that we bring, and so I 225 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 4: just want us to continue to grow personally, professionally, and 226 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 4: grow our audience in this space. And I'm thankful for 227 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 4: the thousands, literally thousands of you who reached out to 228 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 4: us over the past week to let us know what 229 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 4: what what you meant. And I think it was heard 230 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 4: from here to iHeart executives and all across what a 231 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 4: value dischell is, but most importantly, our conversations with you, 232 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 4: the audience, is what we value the most. 233 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just quickly say, because I know we didn't 234 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: brightline this as a major topic, but both of what 235 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: you said, both of your perspectives resonated with me. And 236 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: to dive in just real quick with you, Angela, this 237 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: whole idea of not knowing. I've really wrestled with this, like, 238 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: can I be so disconnected from a set of people perspective, 239 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: lived experiences that things still stunned me in the political space, 240 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: which I thought, and I think probably for the three 241 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: of us, we have had, at different points in our 242 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: lives pretty strong commands. And on the other thing that 243 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: has really vexed me is this, you know, the data 244 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: that's showing that you know, we had two million fewer 245 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: Democrats turn out to vote. Independence out performed Democrats. There 246 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: were first more Republicans who voted, second, more independent too voted, 247 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: and third Democrats's that's sun for seed in the history 248 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: of this country. And so part of what I think, 249 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: I hope now I take it as part of our 250 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: responsibility is to deepen into what's going on within our 251 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: own house, what is happening within this space where a 252 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: lot of us sheer ideological family perspective that two many 253 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: of us felt like we had no motivation between twenty 254 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: twenty and to twenty twenty four. The threats weren't clear enough, 255 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: the reality wasn't, you know, bright enough for us to 256 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: even bother to engage the other thing that I didn't. 257 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 4: Seen enough, you know, I was just saying or not 258 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 4: seen enough. 259 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: You know, correct. So that's the other way. That's the 260 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: other way too get democracy, meaning where ideologically there's greater 261 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: alignment with this group of people. I think it speaks 262 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: to this whole not Rainbow coalition, but sort of people 263 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: of color coalition, which is you all know, I have 264 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: been very suspect of giving my experience in Florida of 265 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: whether or not that's ever really been a real thing. 266 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: And moreover, my true belief being that power is what 267 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: turns people on people. Once you get access to it, 268 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: your proximity to it makes you begin to otherise, it 269 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: makes you I mean, we had Latinos being interviewed, you know. 270 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: So there's an example of this Latino family where the 271 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: kids were playing with the neighbors. Both of them had 272 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: Trump signs. One family where you know, of Mexican orient 273 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: the other was a white family. And the kid from 274 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: the white family told them, the Mexican child to go 275 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: back to his country, and then the neighbors got into 276 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: a fight, and he thought they were in shared community, 277 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: but in reality they were not in shared community. All 278 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: that being said is there's so much to explore here, 279 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: and I think we've got to in this moment be 280 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: more curious rather than judging of what is happening, and 281 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: that will have to be a choice. You know, it's 282 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: a choice that any of us can mate. But I 283 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: do think that the way forward is going to be curiosity, 284 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: asking some tough questions, being willing to be proven wrong 285 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: or right, or to have a new perspective shown to us. 286 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: That's where I think we kind of are right now. 287 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: But I just want to double down on thank you 288 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: to the listeners. This is a community. We consider us 289 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: fam and family, and I'm looking forward to exploration going forward. 290 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: If I had a word for it, it would it 291 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: would be exploration. You'll, let's take a quick break, and 292 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: when we come back, we're going to hit enough job. 293 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 4: All right, welcome back, everybody, listen. I know it's all 294 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 4: we're all still processing how we feel about this. But 295 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 4: something that while we're paying so much attention to what's 296 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 4: happening at the federal level, I do want to point 297 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 4: out something happening at the local level, and that is 298 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 4: this idea of having biblical curriculum taught in school. This 299 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 4: was in the news this week because in Texas, the 300 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 4: Texas State Board of Education advanced a Bible infused curriculum 301 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 4: that will be optional for schools to way in, but 302 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 4: there is a financial incentive for schools to start teaching 303 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 4: a Biblical based curriculum. This comes on the hills. I 304 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 4: don't want people to think Texas is a loan. This 305 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 4: comes on the hills from of Oklahoma and Louisiana. In Oklahoma, 306 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 4: the state superintendent mandated public schools to teach the Bible. 307 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 4: This is a clear violation of separation of church and state, 308 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 4: and the superintendent in Oklahoma also announced the creation of 309 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 4: a new Office of Religious Liberty and Patriotism that will 310 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 4: be housed within the state's education department. This happened on 311 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 4: the hills of Louisiana, which is currently litigating a state 312 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 4: law requiring public classrooms to display the Ten Commandments. This 313 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 4: is a move that they're also pushing in Texas as well. 314 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 4: Multiple legal issues here. Aside from the violation and separation 315 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 4: in church and states, they're also political issu choose. This 316 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 4: is why there is no off yer election cycles. Take 317 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 4: a listen to the super intendent in Oklahoma and then 318 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 4: on the other side of that you're going to hear 319 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 4: from a woman who is advancing supporting the bill in Texas, 320 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 4: and I'll address what they say. On the other side. 321 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 8: Every teacher, every classroom in the state will have a 322 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 8: Bible in the classroom, and we'll be teaching from the 323 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 8: Bible in the classroom. 324 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 9: They serve not only as moral guidelines for the individuals 325 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 9: and for society, things like do not murder, do not 326 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 9: commit adultery. These are things that help to create a 327 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 9: thriving community and a thriving nation. 328 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 4: All right, So you guys know, for years, probably the 329 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 4: past two or three years, all we heard from parents 330 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 4: and activists at the school board METE was about mind 331 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 4: your business and let me let my kids learn what 332 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 4: I want them to. 333 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 5: That's right. 334 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 4: So I just want to remind you what we were 335 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 4: hearing when it came to issues like CRT Nick, Let's 336 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 4: row that sound. 337 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 10: The DEI program is a trojan horse that will bring 338 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 10: in a slippery slope, a slippery slope that will ultimately 339 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 10: end in critical race theory, white repentance, and the mcdonalization 340 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 10: of America's students. 341 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 8: Please get back to just teaching our children, math, science, 342 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 8: factual history, equity, of opportunity and teach them how to 343 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 8: think and not what to think. 344 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 4: So the hypocrisy of it all exactly. Now, think about 345 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 4: if your child is Muslim or Buddhist or Jewish and 346 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 4: they're teaching from a Bible, the part of the Bible 347 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 4: that you don't necessarily believe in. The hypocrisy when it 348 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 4: comes to these moral issues. Not after you just elected 349 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 4: the pussy grabber and chief, not after you just put 350 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 4: up someone who was accused of sexual assault with teenagers. 351 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 4: Matt Gates for Attorney General also maybe focused on the 352 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 4: issues in your own district in Texas. This year, Texas 353 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 4: has the sixth highest rate of bullying and the eighth 354 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 4: highest dropout rate in the nation. The state ranked thirty 355 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 4: four for its Median ACT scores and forty in nationwide 356 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 4: ranking of SAT scores. That's according to website wallet Hub. 357 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 4: Oklahoma has been raked forty sixth in the nation and 358 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 4: overall childcare well being forty ninth in education. That's according 359 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 4: to the Antie Casey Foundation. Louisiana is in the fiftieth 360 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 4: spot for the second year in a row in rankings 361 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,959 Speaker 4: for the state as a whole, It rated forty seventh 362 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 4: in education, forty sixth in healthcare, forty ninth in the environment, 363 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 4: and forty ninth in infrastructure, forty fourth in the economy. 364 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 4: Please don't talk to us about how seriously you take 365 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 4: education when you just put up Linda McMahon, former WWE executive, 366 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 4: to mansol the Department of Education. It's a shit show 367 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 4: across the country. 368 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Chiff, the part that, in addition to 369 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: obviously the offense to all different faiths that exist and 370 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: those of no faith. Quite frankly, and I'm a strong 371 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: believera go to church, and in fact, side note, all 372 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: three of my kids joined church on their own decision 373 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: making this past Sunday. So I'm not anti religion, but 374 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: I don't trust these folks to teach my children about values. 375 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: Not right. I mean, what you just listed is exactly 376 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: case in point why we wouldn't want to. But these 377 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: are also the same people who use the Good Book 378 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: to justify enslaving another people. So so you can take 379 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: this thing, you can twist it, you can use it 380 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: so that it beguides people toward your dominance in society. 381 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: But you are extracting from public education legitimate histories of 382 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: our people of this country of this nation, and you 383 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: expect that I'm supposed to now hand deliver over my 384 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: children for you to now subjugate them again to second 385 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: class stat is no thank you, no thank you. And Tiffany, 386 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: you're right to point out that this is the type 387 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: of stuff that's creeping in our states that quite frankly 388 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: end up being the exact kinds of legislation that are 389 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: rolled out at the federal level with members of Congress. 390 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: Because it's already been planted in the states, they're just 391 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: two point oh version two point zero to in fact 392 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: infect the entire country. So if you're in a place 393 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: around the nation where you think you're not impacted by 394 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: this stuff, you just wait and see. They may be 395 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: coming for Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana and states like mine, Florida, 396 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: even Georgia and other places, but they may be up 397 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: your street later. I just think it's crazy, but I'm 398 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: really glad that we are putting a spotlight on it. 399 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 4: But also that's why there's no off election years like 400 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 4: these things are happening at school boards. So that's why 401 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 4: it's important to have for parents, especially have a presence 402 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 4: at these school board meetings. And this is how local 403 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 4: politics impact our federal politics because a lot of these 404 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 4: shitty policies start at the local, state and local level. 405 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: That's exactly right, May Angelo and Florida being banned all 406 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: across the state by school boards. Right, they're banning eber Kenny, 407 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: everybody number one banner book banner in this country. Yet 408 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: they want to introduce the Bible less curriculum for morals. 409 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 11: Okay, we'll see. 410 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: All right, y'all. So we've heard of late a lot 411 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: of conversation about recess appointments. If Donald Trump doesn't get 412 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: his non nominations through the confirmation process of the US Senate, 413 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: that he has a fallback strategy to appoint these folks 414 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: at a recess. So what is it? First of all, 415 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: I want to acknowledge our listeners are brilliant, bright, highly sophisticated, 416 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: but for some of us we may not have pulled 417 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: back the layers of like, what's the possibility around this 418 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: recess appointment. Recess appointments are obviously a power granted in 419 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: the Constitution of the United States that essentially was established 420 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: so that when Congress is on recess that the operation 421 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: of government necessary piece of government could still go forward. 422 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: So when back Obviously, during the time of its framing, 423 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: it took up to two months for members of the Congress, 424 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: the House, and the Senate to travel from respective places 425 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: around the country back to DC to make decisions. Well, 426 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: in that critical period of time, you don't want a 427 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: president being handicapped or any agency not being able to 428 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: do his job because a nominee hasn't been confirmed, which 429 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: it created the opportunity for that president to make an 430 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: appointment temporarily of an individual for a position that would 431 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: otherwise have required confirmation by the United States United States Senate. 432 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: Through court litigation, it was established that a recess has 433 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: to last for a minimum of ten days in order 434 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: for it to be an official recess. Some of us, 435 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: if for Mike Johnson, the presumptive or expected Speaker of 436 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: the House, current speak of the House, say that he'd 437 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: be open to recess appointments, and you might ask yourself, well, 438 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: what does the House Speaker have to do with recess appointments? 439 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: Good question, because it's a confirmation is the responsibility of 440 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: the Senate. Well, there is a little known section of 441 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: the US law the Constitution that provides in instances where 442 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: one of the houses of Congress wants to take a 443 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: break longer than typical, it must be agreed to by 444 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: both the House and the Senate. Well, if the Senate 445 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: says we're not going to go with these recess appointments 446 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: and we want to see every nominee and go through 447 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: the confirmation process, it's prerogative can be upset by Speaker 448 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: Johnson putting on the floor a resolution that says the 449 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: House wants to go into recess for ten days. If 450 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: it then goes over to the Senate. If it passes 451 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: the House, the Senate can then say no, we disagree. 452 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: And in instances where they disagree, the Constitution provides for 453 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: the President of the United States to decide and dispand 454 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: that Congress for its recess, giving Donald Trump the opportunity 455 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: where he president to have Mike Johnson put forth a 456 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: resolution for recess, the Senate to deny that, and then 457 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: for Donald Trump to recess the Congress and make his 458 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: appointments over a recess period. Obviously, this is not a 459 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: practice that has been heavily utilized in our past. Actually 460 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: only once has a cabinet member been confirmed that way, 461 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: but Donald Trump. Obviously, this would have been during Clinton's administration. 462 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken and it was only recess appointments, 463 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: of course only lasts for a term, which means once 464 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 1: the Congress recesses then comes back into another term, which 465 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: is typically a calendar year, that person is no longer 466 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: in office. But of course the president could then repeat 467 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: that practice for four years and continue to have people 468 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: reside in those offices via recess appointment. 469 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 4: So what happens then, because this is where I'm confused 470 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 4: about the process on the Hill. So right now they're 471 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 4: looking to fill Senator majority leader. Outgoing former majority leader 472 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 4: Senator Mitch McConnell is retiring, and they are looking to 473 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,719 Speaker 4: fill that position. So Republican leadership, and Donald Trump has 474 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 4: said this person has to be okay with recess appointments. 475 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 4: So let's say they tap somebody who is okay with 476 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 4: recess appointments. So Thune is now the minority leader. So 477 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 4: if if Senator John Thune is is like, I'm okay 478 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 4: with recess appointments, does that mean that then in the 479 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 4: recess he can confirm all all the positions that need 480 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 4: recess appointments. 481 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: Presumptively, if the if the US Senate were to take 482 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: a ten day break. Of course, Donald Trump would need 483 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: to be president. He's not president. These nominees are not 484 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: official until. 485 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 4: They are post inauguration correct. 486 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: Correct, correct, But theoretically the Senate could go on a recess. 487 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 10: Now. 488 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: There are some procedural ways in which Democrats can attempt 489 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: to upset, but eventually the majority can decide to take 490 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: a recess. 491 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 4: The Democrats have said. 492 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: There are very and Angela, you may be able to 493 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: wait inherit to it as well. But there are various 494 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 1: procedural ways in which they can delay through requesting and 495 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: requiring more votes, requiring hand count votes, or individualized votes. 496 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: These are delay tactics. But the majority which they have 497 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: presumptively fifty three is what is expected fifty three or 498 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: fifty four, fifty three seats, I think majority in the 499 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: United States Senate. They'll have what is required to go 500 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: on recess right now. I also want to tell you, Tiff, 501 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: because I know it can be confusing, and I hate this. 502 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: I hate this for the listeners as well, because it's 503 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: important we know it. Though of late, the current precedent 504 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: has pretty much been that the United States Senate doesn't 505 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: take much of a recess. They keep the they technically 506 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: have been staying in session and bringing a local or 507 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: a US senator who is in close proximity to Washington. 508 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: In this case, if Republicans are in charge, I think 509 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 1: West Virginia's probably going to be the closest, and they 510 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: would have that senator come over and procedurally do some 511 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: action on the floor that is of no import simply 512 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: to say that the president cannot make any recess appointments 513 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: because we have not technically gone on recess. That's been 514 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: the operating mode probably since Clinton's time in office. Republicans 515 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: have feared recess appointments and have kept the Congress. I 516 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: have kept the US Senate technically in session to avoid 517 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: appointments over recess. 518 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 5: I just want to fact check this really quick, because 519 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 5: I didn't think that that was true about Bill Clinton 520 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 5: being the last one to use the power. So key 521 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 5: for cabinet member, Oh for a cabinet I didn't hear 522 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 5: you say that, okay, cabinet member. So for the other 523 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 5: folks that heard it, like me, initially, the President Obama 524 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 5: also used the resource appointments to confirm thirty two people, 525 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 5: twenty eight of those in full time positions. George W. 526 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 5: Bush used it one hundred and seventy one times. 527 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: But as you know, Angela, you know, the president has 528 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: over what six thousand appointments, but only a limited number obviously. 529 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 5: Of the cabinet or ones that they make cabinet level. 530 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 5: And then Bill Clinton used it one hundred and thirty 531 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 5: nine times. These are for full time in part time positions. 532 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 5: President Obama mostly used them for undersecretaries for the Deputy 533 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 5: US Trade Representative and Deputy Attorney General while he was 534 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 5: in office. 535 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of using for ambassadorships as well, to 536 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: avoid the confirmation you know process, and I do you 537 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: want to make clear. 538 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 5: To expedite when you're being held you know, captive by 539 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 5: a Congress that doesn't want to work for you. So 540 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 5: it's not just to like obscate a process, it's also 541 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 5: when they are obscating the process, correct. 542 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: Correct, And those have been the most regular uses of 543 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,719 Speaker 1: the recess appointment. However, at the cabinet level, again, these 544 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: are people who are in the line of secession. Right 545 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: the president goes, you know, vice President speak of the 546 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: House on and so forth. So these are cabinet people. 547 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: These are people in the line of secession constitutionally who 548 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: are are basically being routed, you know, in run around 549 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: the confirmation process, and I just I just want to 550 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: make sure that we're all listeners and us are all 551 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: aware that this is what the recess appointment is. It 552 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,719 Speaker 1: has not been abused prior, you know before, rather in 553 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: this way for cabinet level positions. But there's no telling 554 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: them what we can see through Trump. 555 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 4: So I think I understand what y'all both saying. I 556 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,719 Speaker 4: guess my question is, for all of these people who 557 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,959 Speaker 4: are clearly problematic people, is there any chance that some 558 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 4: of these people won't get confirmed because I feel like 559 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,959 Speaker 4: the Republican Party will just fall in line with Donald Trump. 560 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 4: My outlier, I think is Matt Gates, who is obviously 561 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 4: up for Attorney General just because he made so many 562 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 4: enemies within the party. But we've seen this time and 563 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 4: again where people are like, no, you know, screw him, 564 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 4: and then they fall in line. So I don't know, And. 565 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 5: I think Sif was still asking her question, Well, I just. 566 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 4: Really I could talk it to Angela because I want 567 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 4: to hear answer, but I just want to say, Andrew, 568 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 4: I know you were in college at the same time 569 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 4: as Matt gets uh, Matt Gates rather and we didn't 570 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 4: get a chance to talk about that, but yeah, I'd 571 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 4: love to hear from from you, Angela on is there 572 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 4: any stopping this? You know, even outside the park? Is 573 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 4: there any stop in any of these cabinet members. 574 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 5: Here's what I really think is important. And before we 575 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 5: get into what I really think is important, I really 576 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 5: think we should go to break and talk about why 577 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 5: this is not normal and why we should not normalize it. 578 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 5: So let's talk about that on the other side of 579 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 5: this break. 580 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 3: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, welcome, y'all. 581 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 5: I know that we all understand that this is not normal. 582 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 5: I do not want to talk about Donald Trump and 583 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 5: the way that he plans to use his executive powers 584 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 5: as normal. I don't want to talk about him abusing 585 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 5: what we know he will do is which has abuse 586 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 5: recess appointments as normal. And I want to be very 587 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 5: clear to the listening audience that it is so abnormal 588 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 5: that this man has also appointed people to the Supreme 589 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 5: Court who will always side with him. So not only 590 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 5: will he likely get every appointment confirmed, whether it is 591 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 5: through the traditional way or the way that he will 592 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 5: abuse a recess appointment that will only apply to Donald 593 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 5: Trump and no other president if forever to get another president. 594 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 5: But I want to be very clear about the fact 595 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 5: that the Supreme Court, who took issue with Barack Obama's 596 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 5: appointments to the National Labor Relations Board during recess, that 597 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 5: they will be totally fine with Donald Trump confirming and 598 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 5: getting confirmed all of these crazy people, including a WWE 599 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 5: exec and including Matt Gett. So I just wanted to 600 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 5: be very very clear in ksey'all missed it. This is 601 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 5: not normal. This is someone who intends to abuse the process. 602 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 5: This is someone who's been rubber stamped along the way. 603 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 5: I think part of my trauma this week is seeing 604 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 5: every single one of his criminal cases falling off. And 605 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 5: there are people that are diehard supporters of Donald Trump 606 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 5: who are like, oh, it's God's favor. No, it is not. 607 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 5: It is white supremacist privilege that only applies to this man. 608 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 5: And I cannot figure out why it's again going to 609 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 5: spiral me to I don't know, and I can't figure 610 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 5: out why. So I'm going to table it there. But please, please, 611 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 5: Andrew gillim while we have a feckless Attorney General named 612 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 5: Merrick Garland who won't get anything done except for targeting 613 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 5: black elected officials won't get anything done around Donald Trump 614 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 5: won't ensure There are thousands of January sixth insurrectionists, by 615 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 5: the way, who are arrested and have caught cases, but 616 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 5: their leader did not because Merritt Garland sat there and watched. 617 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 5: But please tell me more about a child molester could 618 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 5: be the next attorney general's country. And it's just because 619 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 5: it's not normal. 620 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm no fan of the at all, I mean, but. 621 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 5: This is the thing we have to like go from. 622 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 5: Like this dude did not get it right. So like 623 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 5: now we get somebody that is a complete nut basket 624 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 5: because he's pledged blind allegiance to Donald Trump. That's just 625 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 5: because we have somebody who actually is capable and understands 626 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 5: the law and all that, but doesn't use it to 627 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 5: ensure that this country is protected from this maniac. Like 628 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,240 Speaker 5: this is mind blowing to me. We normalize everything, wet 629 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 5: everything as normal, and trigger back to last week when 630 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 5: he told me just don't go to inauguration. But Jesus, 631 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 5: like when you treat everything like it's just business as usual, 632 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 5: you get this unusual, crazy business. And now we're all 633 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 5: going to jail. 634 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 4: Go ahead, tell me what can I just really really quickly, Andrew, 635 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 4: I just want to say that Matt Gates has he 636 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 4: is an accused. He's been accused of having sex with 637 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 4: seventeen year olds. We called him. He's accused. He has 638 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:21,720 Speaker 4: not been convicted. 639 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 5: He had accused of take it out the thing. But 640 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 5: Matt Gates is not saying he's attacked Andrew personally. That 641 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 5: is factual. He is not saying they will not see 642 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 5: me for saying. He is not saying. And I will 643 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 5: also say that this man there were two women who 644 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 5: testified before the House Ethics Committee under sealed report that 645 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 5: y'all still have not seen. I'm sure it's coming that 646 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 5: talked about his behavior with underage women with minors, seventeen 647 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 5: year olds, seventeen, These are miners. These are miners. These 648 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 5: are miners. Perfect, they're miners. 649 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 4: Well, in addition to being minors, he's also accused of 650 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 4: paying for sex, which is also against the law. Right, 651 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 4: you went to school with them, So I want to yeah, 652 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 4: well we're. 653 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: In the same city, we're in the same Yeah. But 654 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: I will say this about is not just to him, 655 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: but across the board, to these nominees. The Trump administration 656 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: has decided to waive in the case of Matt Gates 657 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: as well as Tulci Gabbard, as well as their nominee 658 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: for the Defense Secretary FBI background checks on them, which 659 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: are in depth research, interviews, and investigations on each of 660 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: the nominees he's waived it. I'd like to ask this question, 661 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: which is, why is it that, in the remaining days 662 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: of this administration, can't Joe Biden direct the FBI to 663 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: conduct these investigations right now under his watch? What limits 664 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 1: the current president of the United States saying I believe 665 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: and I will direct this agency to investigate thoroughly each 666 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: of the President's nominees and make that material available to 667 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: respective committees and members of both the House and the Senate, 668 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: on both the Democrat, Republican and independent whoever else is 669 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: up there in the Congress. But I just think that 670 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: we should not yet let off the existing administration as 671 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: a protectee of the Constitution and our democracy if they 672 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: still believe that it is such a threat and under 673 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: such threat, that they ought to use the powers that 674 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: exist right now to ensure that we get the information 675 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: about these individuals that we need. Because I tell you, 676 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm shocked that Tallahassee is not already swarming with reporters 677 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: from all over. I mean, Matt and I were at 678 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: college at the same time. I was student body president 679 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: FAMU prior to that Senate president. He was doing similar 680 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: work over at FSU. My best friend and he are 681 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: law school classmates, and so on and so forth, and 682 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 1: the stories, and I can tell you even firsthand experiences 683 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: of having observed the kind of person that Matt is. 684 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: A man by age, but an adolescent by attitude, demeanor 685 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: and com u uh comportment, a troller in chief on 686 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: every platform that allows him to still exist. There there 687 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 1: are stories that go back to his days as as 688 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 1: as a younger man still an adult in Tallahassee. That 689 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: that that really deserve some intentional and investigative reporting. Well, 690 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: I mean, well, I would say this much everything that 691 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: you have seen him accused of up to this point today, 692 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,760 Speaker 1: should those things be confirmed and turned out to be true, 693 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: know that that didn't just begin at this point in 694 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 1: his life. That that pattern began a very long time ago, 695 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: probably even before I ever encountered him or got to 696 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: got to know him, when he was a student here 697 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: at Florista University. And I want to be careful here 698 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: because I'm not suggesting that he has anything to do 699 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: with it, but he had a roommate of his pass 700 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:03,720 Speaker 1: away inexplicit inexplicably, there was an investigation that was undertaken 701 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: by the Department of Law Enforcement that sort of at 702 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: least it was rumored that it began as a homicide investigation, 703 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: and then ultimately that went away and it was just 704 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: sort of ruled as some sort of accidental death or 705 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 1: or I forget what the actual claim on it is, 706 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: but that's a job of and reporters to go in and. 707 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 5: Find out to see out the details. 708 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: I don't know why it went away, but I should 709 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: note that Matt Gates' father, Popagates, Daddy Gates as the state, 710 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: was a very powerful state senator at the time, had 711 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: went it to retirement and now back in the and 712 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,439 Speaker 1: and and governing power, And so there was a lot 713 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,439 Speaker 1: going on under the sort of under the surface here. 714 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 1: There are people who experienced him here, who rolled with 715 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: him here, who know And I guess if I had 716 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: a call out to folks who were in Tallahassee in 717 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,800 Speaker 1: these early two thousands and and and forward, who remember 718 00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: that time with him, both as a member of the 719 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: legislature but going back to his time as a student 720 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 1: at Florida State University. Who know more. If you are 721 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,879 Speaker 1: on the side of saving our democracy, on the side 722 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: of not having a retributive uh, you know, Tyrant of 723 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: a team serving as the US Attorney General, then I 724 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: think you have an obligation to reach out to your 725 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: local or state FBI offices, offer what you know in secret, 726 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 1: and let them do the work that they're supposed to 727 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 1: do to unearth what is truth and what is not. 728 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to live in 729 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: in gossip. That's why I won't say more, but I 730 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: will say there there is more than smoke right now. 731 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 11: Uh. 732 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: And I think with a little bit of and and 733 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: how do you say, a deep dive by by reporters, 734 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: I think you can quickly start to illuminate some truths 735 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: for the American people to consider before this confirmation is 736 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: seen by the US Center. 737 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,760 Speaker 5: Can I just say really quick about Matt Gates too, 738 00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 5: because I think it is important that our cabinet officials 739 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,280 Speaker 5: are above reproach. There's a biblical constance we're teaching Bible 740 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 5: in school, is teaching on the podcast too above reproach. 741 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 5: And it is fascinating to me that the standards by 742 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 5: which someone can be admitted to a bar, you know, 743 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 5: to practice law, are higher than what would be required 744 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 5: of a cabinet official. And and to me, what is 745 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 5: also really frustrating. And I'm not saying that people don't 746 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 5: make mistakes and that they shouldn't be forgiven or that 747 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 5: it shouldn't be disclosed, but it could be disqualifying for 748 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 5: an attorney to have a dui right to be arrested 749 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 5: for dui. Matt Getz also has a d UY on 750 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 5: his record. Oh I don't know about three. I know 751 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 5: about one, but okay, so let's say that it's allegedly three. 752 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 1: Right, Well, well let's go with allegedly one, but. 753 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 4: Certain currently. 754 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 5: Allegedly three, maybe multiples. But I guess all I'm saying 755 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 5: is I think that it is time for this country 756 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 5: to take a hard look at the standards that are 757 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 5: required for people to work a job. Why is it easier? 758 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 5: Why is the bar lower for Donald Trump to become 759 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 5: president than it is for someone to work at a 760 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 5: regular nine to five job. Why is it easier for 761 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 5: someone to become the Attorney General of the United States 762 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 5: than it is for someone to be admitted to practice 763 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 5: law at a state bar. Those are some of the 764 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 5: questions that we should be asking ourselves to remind ourselves 765 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 5: that this is not a normal time, that it is abnormal, 766 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 5: and that we should not accept this type of abnormality. 767 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 4: Echo Echo, echo a thousand times. Andrew, can I ask 768 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 4: you a quick question? 769 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:41,439 Speaker 10: Yeah? 770 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: Please, Okay. 771 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 4: I want to talk about this phyllish slapley character he 772 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 4: got run in the White House. He has named Susie 773 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 4: Wiles his chief of staff. As you all know, that 774 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 4: does not need a Senate confirmation. You have personal experience 775 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 4: with Susi wise, we didn't get a chance to talk 776 00:43:58,600 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 4: about it last week. 777 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: I want to hear your yeah. I'll say, you know, 778 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 1: I don't have dirt on Susie Wilds. What I have 779 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 1: on Susie Wilds is the fact that she is a 780 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 1: magic maker. I mean, she came in and took over 781 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 1: Ronda Santis' campaign when he and I were running against 782 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: each other for the office of governor in twenty eighteen. 783 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: And this is at the point where my poll numbers 784 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: began to climb above his, and it almost in the 785 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,359 Speaker 1: last thirty days just sort of looked like the thing 786 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 1: was sort of about to be done, and Susie Wilds 787 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: came in to rescue his operation and turned I mean 788 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 1: literally in thirty days, turned that ship, you know, quite 789 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: around a very very low key operative. You're not going 790 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,800 Speaker 1: to see her holding press conferences, You're not going to 791 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 1: see her out front. She you know, it sort of 792 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 1: reminds me of a character from Scandal, where you know, 793 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: you sort of have this clutch player who is mysterious 794 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: in many ways, sort of behind the curtain, but is 795 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: each extremely powerful and frankly quite impressive about the rescue mission, 796 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 1: does the rescue mission, does the fixing, and then I 797 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 1: think turns out almost near unbelievable outcomes. And I just 798 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: underscored this sort of almost unbelievable part because I think, 799 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 1: you know, we ought to know, we need to know more. 800 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 4: Well since fallen out. 801 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 1: Then she fell out with Ronda Santis and hated DeSantis 802 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 1: because everyone was crediting her with DeSantis's win. They basically 803 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: said there was no way Susie comes in as she 804 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,720 Speaker 1: rescues it, and she began getting a lot of attention, 805 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: which she usually pushes off, but without her permission a 806 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: lot of attention inure to her. The Disantances reportedly did 807 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: not like that at all and simmarily dismissed her from 808 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: her role at the Republican Party of Florida. And later thereafter, 809 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: Trump embraced her, picked her right on up and bought 810 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: him her early on into his campaign as as a 811 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 1: senior advisor and then later obviously as as a deputy 812 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: as the. 813 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 4: Co campaign tried to discourage and absolutely, yes, I get 814 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:12,320 Speaker 4: to fire her. 815 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 1: I would say the DeSantis is. I think it's very 816 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 1: important to keep Casey DeSantis in the picture because of 817 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 1: the very outsize role that she played in his life. 818 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 1: And then last on, this is the other Matt Gates connection. 819 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 1: Is he actually uh played me as in debate prep 820 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 1: as the centus sparring partner. It's quite interesting because my 821 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,239 Speaker 1: team advisors and staff always shows women to play the 822 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 1: role of dissentis during my debate prep, which I don't 823 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 1: know what that was about. I didn't question it at 824 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 1: the time, but he supposedly played me as if uh 825 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: in preparing DeSantis uh for for debate. But you're right, 826 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 1: it's not normal, and that's why I want to press 827 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 1: on this administration to do what they can with the 828 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 1: power that they have remaining. I think they owe us 829 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 1: some protection here to the extent that we can get 830 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 1: it to unearth what needs to be on earthed, because 831 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 1: your point, Angela around above reproach above reproach for a 832 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 1: position like this really means that you can't hide anything 833 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: that's somebody else, a foreign government or even a domestic 834 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 1: a citizen who could get a hold of then hold 835 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,839 Speaker 1: over your head the disclosure of that information over your 836 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: head so that they can take from you or really, 837 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 1: in this case from the American people, what is not 838 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 1: owed to them. We need people who are beyond reproach 839 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 1: or they need to open up the closet and let 840 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 1: out what is in there so that they cannot be 841 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:45,840 Speaker 1: bribed or held hostage by a citizen or foreign government 842 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 1: for information that they have over that. 843 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 5: Is going to happen, friend, because that's the era that 844 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 5: we're in, Like, let's just be clear about what they 845 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 5: can't like, all of this is going to happen. I 846 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 5: think the sooner we come to terms with the fact 847 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 5: that this is where we are, the better ourf will be. 848 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,360 Speaker 5: Now for those people out there who think that Donald 849 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 5: Trump is like a black man because he had a 850 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 5: mug shot. You'll probably appreciate this one too. Fun fact 851 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,240 Speaker 5: about Susie Wiles is she lobbied for Swiss or sweets. 852 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,239 Speaker 5: So I guess there's a black card for you. 853 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 4: Wow, frustrating break? Well, well, I guess it's time for 854 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 4: a break. Well, we'll go to a break. And on 855 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 4: the other side of that, I would love to go 856 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 4: to if you were a questioned that hits close to 857 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 4: my heart and that is about the punditry class and 858 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,839 Speaker 4: their hot garbage takes they've been offering that. So don't 859 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:37,320 Speaker 4: go anywhere. 860 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 11: We'll be right, yeah, ma'am. 861 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 12: Hey, Tiffany Angela Andrew. My name is Donelle. I am 862 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 12: originally from Cludand, Ohio, but I currently live in LA 863 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,799 Speaker 12: and I just wanted to I guess get you ays 864 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 12: opinion on all these pundits post elections going around blaming 865 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 12: wokeness as the reason Kamala Harris ultimately lost the election. 866 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 12: Being that the term woke originated within the black community, 867 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 12: it kind of feels like a slap in the face, 868 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 12: at least personally as a black gay man, especially being 869 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:22,360 Speaker 12: that the LGBTQ community supporting Kamala overwhelmingly too. It just 870 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 12: feels distasteful and, like I said, a slap in the 871 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 12: face to me that they would go around blaming wokeness 872 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 12: or being too woke as the reason, and it ultimately 873 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 12: kind of makes me not want to support the Democratic 874 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,839 Speaker 12: Party in the future. But yeah, just wanted to get 875 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 12: you guys' opinion on that, And yes, I think you 876 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 12: guys should definitely keep going. Your voices are definitely needed 877 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 12: in this space. 878 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 4: I love it. I was born in Cleveland, Ohio, so homeboy. 879 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 4: But I want to say, the puntry class right now 880 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 4: is trash. I'm so disgusted by all of it. Even 881 00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 4: the people that you see taking up space on these 882 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 4: sets like Show the viewers, you have some respect for 883 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 4: them that you at least looked up something that you 884 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,720 Speaker 4: are a subject matter on, something not just taking up space. 885 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 4: But what happened earlier this week. It came out that 886 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 4: morning Joe host, Joe Scarborough and Mika Brazinski went to 887 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 4: meet with Donald Trump. A lot of us weren't surprised 888 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,319 Speaker 4: by this, but I was really surprised that so many 889 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,279 Speaker 4: of you guys were, and so I was happy to 890 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:25,759 Speaker 4: get this question from this this man talking about, you know, 891 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 4: blaming woke culture. This really isn't something new, so we 892 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 4: really shouldn't be surprised by a lot of these same 893 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 4: folks echoing these same garbage takes. And I just want 894 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 4: to remind people who these folks are and who they 895 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 4: have always been. I want you all to take a 896 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 4: listen to Joe Scarborough in twenty fourteen. This is ten 897 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,439 Speaker 4: years ago. This was on the heels of the Saint 898 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 4: Louis Rams players who walked on the field in twenty fourteen, 899 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 4: as you all remember, with the hands up, don't shoot position. 900 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 4: This is how the former Republican Congressman Joe Scarborough responded 901 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:00,800 Speaker 4: to that outside about any others. 902 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:07,280 Speaker 6: So, but these players can suggest that the Saint Louis 903 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,919 Speaker 6: cops shoot black youth with their hands up in the air. 904 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,839 Speaker 6: That's cool with the NFL, That's cool with the Saint 905 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,800 Speaker 6: Louis Rams. That's cool to suggest that Saint Louis police 906 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 6: officers in the town. Probably a lot who go to 907 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 6: the games and watch the games and are fans. Does 908 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,319 Speaker 6: Saint Louis Rams think it's cool for them to suggest 909 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 6: that Saint Louis cops shoot young black men who had 910 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,319 Speaker 6: hands up in the air, when we know that that 911 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 6: was a lie. It's a lie, and what was that? 912 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,719 Speaker 6: Just Joan Capitill or more people like going, Oh, it 913 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,279 Speaker 6: doesn't matter where it's the truth or not, I'm going 914 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,400 Speaker 6: to suggest the cops shoot people with their hands up 915 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 6: in the air. What is wrong with this country? 916 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 1: It's not the truth. 917 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 3: And you know it's not the truth. 918 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 13: And you're going on the house floor suggesting that police 919 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 13: officers who put their lives on the line are shooting 920 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 13: people with their hands in the air when you know 921 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 13: it's a lie. 922 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 6: What's wrong with you? 923 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,319 Speaker 4: So on the heels of that. Never mind that many 924 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 4: witnesses say that Michael Brown what he did, have his 925 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,480 Speaker 4: hands up when the officer shot him. Never minded his 926 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 4: body was left dead in the streets to rot for hours. 927 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 4: Never mind that we routinely saw at this time, especially 928 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,799 Speaker 4: and nothing that has really changed black men, unarmed black 929 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:30,400 Speaker 4: men getting shot by the police. So I just you know, 930 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 4: that was ten years ago. So the fact that the 931 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 4: media who normalized this foolish, ridiculousness that we've seen in 932 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,360 Speaker 4: Donald Trump, they didn't remind people about Trump having kisleak 933 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 4: in the oval office. They didn't remind people about the 934 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,839 Speaker 4: document's case. They didn't remind people about who Donald Trump was, 935 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 4: so it should be no surprise. And I would just 936 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,960 Speaker 4: ask people, if you don't like what you're seeing from 937 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,319 Speaker 4: the pundits, then stop watching because by you tuning in, 938 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 4: you're saying I approve of this, and you're giving them ratings. 939 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 4: When they announced that they met with Donald Trump there 940 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 4: they saw their ratings take a dive. So if you 941 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,239 Speaker 4: go back and watch, then they're seeing an uptick and 942 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 4: they assume that you don't mind. When you tune into US, 943 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 4: it says, hey, we see people like what they're watching, 944 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 4: so we will expand this platform. We'll give more opportunity. 945 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,360 Speaker 4: When you tune out, it says all people don't like 946 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 4: what they're watching, So you are the real power brokers 947 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 4: at home. Tune out if you don't like it. Speaking 948 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 4: of normalizing, note, I want to get back to the cabinet, 949 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,879 Speaker 4: and I know that you got a lot to say 950 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,279 Speaker 4: about the cabinet. Which one did you say you you 951 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:31,400 Speaker 4: wanted to hit Angela? 952 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 1: I forget Doctor last episode. 953 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 5: Doctors, But before I get to doctor Oz, I do 954 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 5: want to address part of this listener question. I actually 955 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:46,959 Speaker 5: might pitch y'all off. I do think that we have 956 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,479 Speaker 5: some soul searching to do, because there are a bunch 957 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 5: of us. I label myself as a progressive. I don't 958 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:57,879 Speaker 5: really hold a party label, and there are a lot 959 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 5: of reasons, and I'm very concerned that the way that 960 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 5: progressive people are being talked about within the Democratic Party 961 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:09,759 Speaker 5: is damn near violent right now. There is we have 962 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 5: to have some conversations around how we define ourselves and 963 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 5: then how those definitions are going outside. And so he 964 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,919 Speaker 5: just he brought up wokeism in his comments as well, 965 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 5: and I think wokeness like so, there's a definition from 966 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,799 Speaker 5: Oxford that says the quality of being alert to and 967 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 5: concerned about social injustice and discrimination. Then there is a 968 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 5: wokeism definition also in Oxford. It says progressive or left 969 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:46,799 Speaker 5: wing attitudes or practices, especially those opposing social injustice or discrimination, 970 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 5: that are viewed as doctrinaire, self righteous, and insincere. And 971 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:58,359 Speaker 5: I guess, I guess My question is why is it 972 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:03,240 Speaker 5: self righteous to desire to live? Why is it self 973 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:09,359 Speaker 5: righteous to ask that police officers protect and serve all, 974 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 5: not some? Why is it self righteous to demand that 975 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,759 Speaker 5: my paycheck when I'm doing the same job as you 976 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 5: should be the same. Why is it self righteous for 977 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:24,120 Speaker 5: me to seek a mortgage loan and hope that my 978 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,600 Speaker 5: mortgage loan would be approved because of my credit score? 979 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 5: Just like everybody else? Tell we you're rid of those 980 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:34,680 Speaker 5: things and not disproved or denied because of who I 981 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,440 Speaker 5: am and my skin color and where I come from, 982 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 5: if you can even choose that. Why is it self 983 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,840 Speaker 5: righteous for me to desire to live in a neighborhood 984 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 5: where my kids and my family can be safe because 985 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 5: I deserve that and I can stay there and I 986 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 5: can afford MYO Like why is that self righteous? And 987 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 5: I think that that is the conversation that we have 988 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 5: to have. Why is it that your power has to 989 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 5: be a usif to my to my dreams, to my liberty, 990 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 5: to my freedom? Like why is that the case? Yes, 991 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,319 Speaker 5: my mere, my mere survival. We're not even trying to 992 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 5: we haven't even talked about thriving yet. So I'm like, 993 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,799 Speaker 5: I am literally still at this crossroads. I get it 994 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,520 Speaker 5: with him, I get his frustration with the Democratic Party, 995 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 5: and I also am curious. We've talked about it at nauseum. 996 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 5: I think especially in our in our you know, in 997 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 5: our side conversations, but is the tent just too big? 998 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,319 Speaker 5: You know? Is the tent just too at a point 999 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,040 Speaker 5: at a breaking point? 1000 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 11: I remember. 1001 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 1: That's one of the one thing that's one of the 1002 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,560 Speaker 1: few things that stood up for me for election Knight, 1003 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 1: was when we were with the Breakfast Club. I think 1004 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,799 Speaker 1: it was Charla Might who said, is the Democratic tent 1005 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,879 Speaker 1: just too big? Can you mean all those needs? And 1006 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 1: it sat with me, y'all, because one, I think this 1007 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,399 Speaker 1: tent that we are describing as a big, big tent 1008 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:59,440 Speaker 1: and then therefore representative of a share philosophy has always 1009 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,800 Speaker 1: been a bit of a pipe dream. We have a 1010 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 1: lot of con Democratic Party has a lot of constituencies 1011 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,320 Speaker 1: to serve. But as we saw from this last election, 1012 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 1: there were very important parts of that quote constituency who 1013 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,400 Speaker 1: didn't feel seen, heard, spoken to at all whatsoever, and 1014 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 1: quite lightweight disrespected by some of what was happening, you know, 1015 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,360 Speaker 1: within that frame. I also think that we got to 1016 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 1: really face up to the fact and this was put 1017 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 1: positive by y'all, you know, and the opening this whole 1018 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,440 Speaker 1: question of the rainbow, the coalition, what is that is 1019 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 1: that it appears to me that when certain people get 1020 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:38,120 Speaker 1: access to power, they want to one exempt themselves out 1021 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 1: of the coalition and align with an interest that has 1022 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:45,600 Speaker 1: worked over time toward their suppression. And in fact, even 1023 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 1: when they joined that coalition, this group is still working 1024 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:53,320 Speaker 1: over time against your very existence. Do you think the 1025 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,600 Speaker 1: average run of the mill joe on the street is 1026 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,680 Speaker 1: really making a difference between whether or not you are 1027 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:02,600 Speaker 1: legal or he or illegally if you look to them 1028 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 1: like a latino, No, they're not. Most most folks aren't 1029 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 1: gonna displice that difference. Just like that incident of the 1030 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 1: neighbor and the neighbor. You may be a legal citizen, 1031 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 1: you may have been a born citizen here in this country, 1032 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,640 Speaker 1: yet your neighbor hadn't even demonstrated announced curiosity about that 1033 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 1: you are brown, you are different, you are other, period. 1034 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 1: And so I that this tent thing and the question 1035 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,919 Speaker 1: you're asking you if it's if it's too big, let's 1036 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 1: go on a journey and find out. 1037 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:33,040 Speaker 4: I ask you what. 1038 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,040 Speaker 5: I hope we can do that on the mini pot 1039 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 5: because I didn't like, I didn't know this was gon. 1040 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,080 Speaker 5: I didn't know and it wasn't planned, but just hearing 1041 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,160 Speaker 5: like your response watch Tiffany's space. I'm like, I want 1042 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 5: to talk about this. If we can't like, what is 1043 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 5: what I think we want from our you know, political system, 1044 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 5: from democracy? What are our high hopes? Tif maybe we 1045 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,520 Speaker 5: can imagine and find some hope in that. 1046 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 4: Well, do y'all do y'all want to talk about that? 1047 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,920 Speaker 4: Or do y'all want to talk about the cabinet members 1048 00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:58,919 Speaker 4: on the mini pot or both? 1049 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 5: I would rap to talk about Yeah, we got times if. 1050 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,640 Speaker 4: We because we're going on the hour, we do calls now, 1051 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 4: we could potentially do both because we would it would 1052 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,560 Speaker 4: just be a longer minipod or we can get into 1053 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 4: the cabinet now. 1054 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:15,840 Speaker 5: I'm just going to say, real quick, this cast is trash. Uh, Yes, 1055 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,480 Speaker 5: real quick, the cabinet is trash, doctor oz Uh. You 1056 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 5: know my grandmother before she passed, God rest her soul, 1057 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 5: Graham used to always talk to us about what you know, 1058 00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 5: doctor Oh said, And I just would like for him 1059 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 5: to stay his ass on somebody's TV screen and out 1060 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:39,840 Speaker 5: of the Department of Medicare and Medicaid Services centers. Excuse 1061 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,040 Speaker 5: me for Medicare and Medicaid Services. That's not where he belongs. 1062 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,200 Speaker 5: I'm deeply concerned by most of these pics. We don't 1063 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,640 Speaker 5: have real time to get into them, but just know 1064 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 5: that he has put in the head of personnel someone 1065 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,760 Speaker 5: who's ran his publishing companies, specifically for his books. This 1066 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:03,640 Speaker 5: is literally a cabinet of Donald Trump stands. That is 1067 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:08,160 Speaker 5: what you have people who have pledged blind allegiance to 1068 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,680 Speaker 5: this man. I don't have another thing that is thought 1069 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,760 Speaker 5: provoking to say about this, except for doctor I said, 1070 01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 5: I really don't want you running this, sir, I'm. 1071 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,840 Speaker 1: Telling you, but it's almost right, right, A president who 1072 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,320 Speaker 1: told us to drink clorox or bleach or whatever he 1073 01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:26,440 Speaker 1: said to put this man over medicare medicaid. Y'all, these 1074 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 1: folks are not playing. And the truth is you said 1075 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,600 Speaker 1: it last week, Tiffany, that trying to call out Donald 1076 01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,000 Speaker 1: Trump and follow him from a New s perspective, it's 1077 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,160 Speaker 1: like trying to catch confetti and it's impossible, right, You 1078 01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,320 Speaker 1: can't catch all the pieces. And I think one of 1079 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 1: the things that we're going to be challenged by y'all 1080 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,440 Speaker 1: over the coming weeks and months for sure, but years, 1081 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 1: is how it is that we create a new system 1082 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,800 Speaker 1: of alert with his actions. We know it all falls 1083 01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:57,080 Speaker 1: in the categorgory of this ain't normal. But if we 1084 01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 1: run around with our hair on fire, people are not 1085 01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:05,240 Speaker 1: going to know when to activate and when we all 1086 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,840 Speaker 1: know this for truth that people can't stay activated twenty 1087 01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 1: four to seven. We have to sleep in shifts, So 1088 01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,480 Speaker 1: so cruise got to be ready to move in when 1089 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:17,160 Speaker 1: they are at their designated time. And so everything is 1090 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,959 Speaker 1: going to feel immergent with this guy. Everything his sky 1091 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 1: is falling because it truly is. These appointments are deplorable 1092 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,000 Speaker 1: and call them people to put the action of putting 1093 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:27,960 Speaker 1: these people where he's trying to put them. But there 1094 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,000 Speaker 1: may be different points at which there may be calls 1095 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 1: to action for us to intervene in some ways to 1096 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,080 Speaker 1: do some things about it. And just because it's not 1097 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,600 Speaker 1: called on everything doesn't mean that everything isn't important or 1098 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 1: a threat. But we're gonna have to calibrate ourselves as 1099 01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 1: we take in what's happening to make sure we don't 1100 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 1: run people around this country with their hair on fire, 1101 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 1: but rather to start to be able to put this 1102 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 1: stuff into some perspective given what we're going to have 1103 01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 1: to deal with. That's all my thoughts on that. If 1104 01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 1: you want to take us at CTAs. 1105 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, so just to be clear, we're going to talk 1106 01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,600 Speaker 4: about what we want from our political systems on the 1107 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:05,760 Speaker 4: mini pod. Yes, that's what we wanna do. 1108 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we are. 1109 01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,400 Speaker 4: And just a reminder to the viewers, you can catch 1110 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,640 Speaker 4: those mini pods. They drop every Monday, and so yeah, 1111 01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:14,600 Speaker 4: we'll get into that. I'm excited about it. I really 1112 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,480 Speaker 4: kind of already gave my CTA. But I'll just reiterate. 1113 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,960 Speaker 4: If you tune into some garbage, they think that's what 1114 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,000 Speaker 4: you like. So you are the person who are the 1115 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,880 Speaker 4: who's the real power broker? Stop tuning in the garbage, 1116 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 4: Stop listening to the garbage. And the thing I've said 1117 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:32,360 Speaker 4: repeatedly on here, I'll keep saying it. Please share responsibly. 1118 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 4: There is so much misinformation doctor tweets, ai videos, Yes 1119 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,160 Speaker 4: it is. Just just take a quick second before you 1120 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,880 Speaker 4: share something and just see if it's accurate or real. 1121 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,560 Speaker 4: I've had so much hit my inbox just this week alone, 1122 01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,760 Speaker 4: So just just take a quick pause before you post, 1123 01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,520 Speaker 4: before you share, before you drop something, just to make 1124 01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,680 Speaker 4: sure that it's accurate. Because we're about to be flooded 1125 01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:01,480 Speaker 4: with a lot of foolishness and guard that will sound fake, 1126 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:06,240 Speaker 4: but it's sadly real on a lot of cases. Right now, 1127 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:12,040 Speaker 4: Donald Trump has sixteen cabinet appointments. Who knows where we'll 1128 01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,280 Speaker 4: be at by by next week, So stay in. 1129 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,680 Speaker 5: That's all I got, Angela, what you got, I'm going 1130 01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,040 Speaker 5: to tell y'all to track the cabinet appointments. Make sure 1131 01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 5: you read up on who these folks are. I've not 1132 01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,400 Speaker 5: seen anyone yet that I'm like, you know what, that's 1133 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:29,680 Speaker 5: a great pick, surprisingly great pick. I am. I am 1134 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:33,840 Speaker 5: underwhelmed and really pissed, so that that would be my 1135 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,120 Speaker 5: call to action. Please make sure y'all are checking out 1136 01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:41,160 Speaker 5: these cabinet appointments. Yea, videos coming, your questions, your comments. 1137 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,600 Speaker 5: You guys have no idea how important it is to 1138 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:47,160 Speaker 5: hear from you. We have a town hall style podcast 1139 01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:50,000 Speaker 5: over the holiday, sounds like, And that's because you all 1140 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,040 Speaker 5: have sent in so many videos, so keep them coming. 1141 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:52,439 Speaker 10: Yeah. 1142 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, And actually mine picks up from where you just 1143 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:58,760 Speaker 1: left off, Angela, which is the commenting and the being engaged. 1144 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,600 Speaker 1: And I don't mean just on our platform. Some of 1145 01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,160 Speaker 1: the ways in which I think we're going to be 1146 01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,800 Speaker 1: able to raise the heat about some of these nominees 1147 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:11,040 Speaker 1: in the coming weeks and days is by by hitting 1148 01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:16,360 Speaker 1: on our elected officials. Everybody lives in the state AND's 1149 01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,440 Speaker 1: got two representatives in the United States Congress and the 1150 01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:23,760 Speaker 1: United States Senate. They need to know that you expect them, 1151 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,800 Speaker 1: particularly the Democrats, but also the Republicans because they've got 1152 01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,160 Speaker 1: the majority. But we do not expect our We do 1153 01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:33,840 Speaker 1: not expect people who share our philosophical beliefs largely between 1154 01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:38,360 Speaker 1: the two systems, to roll over to anything that Donald 1155 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,600 Speaker 1: Trump is pushing. Yes, it is going to be unfair 1156 01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,880 Speaker 1: because you are going to have to work around the clock. 1157 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,360 Speaker 1: Your staffs will have to work around the clock. But 1158 01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,960 Speaker 1: there are not a lot of protections that people are 1159 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,880 Speaker 1: feeling right now. We are not feeling safe, secure, held 1160 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,800 Speaker 1: in good arms. And the upcoming a couple of months 1161 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,760 Speaker 1: in the next four years, and so now is the time. 1162 01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:03,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a little bit outrageous to see the 1163 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,600 Speaker 1: Democrats only just now came up with a strategy of 1164 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,640 Speaker 1: pushing through judges, and only coincidentally we're able to get 1165 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,960 Speaker 1: a procedural vote pass to get some of those judges 1166 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,320 Speaker 1: through because a couple of Republicans didn't show up. We 1167 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:19,400 Speaker 1: ought to have real, fell safe plans for what we 1168 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,520 Speaker 1: are going to do. I expect Democrats to manipulate and 1169 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,080 Speaker 1: use the rules that are on the books to the 1170 01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,880 Speaker 1: success rate that Republicans have used them when they have 1171 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,280 Speaker 1: been in the minority. They've used them, they've exercised them. 1172 01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,440 Speaker 1: And now is y'all's turns to get up, and it 1173 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:38,920 Speaker 1: is our jobs us, the citizens, the residents in these states, 1174 01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:43,120 Speaker 1: to email, call, be in touch with the staffs and 1175 01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,640 Speaker 1: the offices of these members so that they can hear 1176 01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,840 Speaker 1: from us. Because if they don't hear from us, y'all, 1177 01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:49,800 Speaker 1: they do just like we do. They're like, oh, there 1178 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,480 Speaker 1: are no heat on, that, there's no heat on, that, 1179 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,520 Speaker 1: there's no expectation. So that's that's it for me. I'm 1180 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,600 Speaker 1: sorry that was a long CTA, but I just want 1181 01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,320 Speaker 1: to warn us that this is what's going to be 1182 01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:02,000 Speaker 1: required of us. Are our fooling engagement with these folks, y'all. 1183 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:06,080 Speaker 1: We appreciate all of us you joining us for this episode, 1184 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,360 Speaker 1: and we hope that you will join with us in 1185 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 1: the mini pod. Y'all got some parting words otherwise. 1186 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,800 Speaker 5: No welcome home, y'all. 1187 01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:17,280 Speaker 1: Before we leave this show, I want to remind everyone 1188 01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,640 Speaker 1: to please leave us a review and subscribe to the 1189 01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:23,960 Speaker 1: Native Lampid. We're available on all platforms and YouTube. New 1190 01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:28,200 Speaker 1: episodes drop every Thursday. Also, please don't forget to follow 1191 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:32,160 Speaker 1: us on social media. We are Angela Rae, Tiffany Cross, 1192 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,800 Speaker 1: and I'm Andrew Gillum. Welcome home, y'all, and guess what. 1193 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:38,320 Speaker 1: There are seven hundred and twelve days until the midterm elections. 1194 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,040 Speaker 11: There are no off elections. 1195 01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:43,280 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining the Natives. Attention to what the 1196 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,600 Speaker 2: info and all of the latest rigulum and cross connected 1197 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,479 Speaker 2: to the statements that you leave on our socials. 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