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Speaker 1: to another edition of Happy Hour. As always, if you

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Speaker 1: do so responsibly. Samantha, what are you doing anything?

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Speaker 2: Keep it up with my caffeine intake right now.

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Speaker 1: Oh my, I'm at caffeine in a long time. Oh wow, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess, I guess, but I am drinking red wine, so.

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Speaker 1: Was like not the no, no, no, I was I,

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Speaker 1: as listeners know, I was having a problem with heart racing,

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Speaker 1: we are getting tour the end of twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: and Samantha and I are trying desperately to have some

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Speaker 1: lighter topics during this time, and I have to say

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Speaker 1: required more research than I was anticipating, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: it because I was like, oh, a fun, easy one,

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Speaker 1: and then it was like, actually, all these research bakers

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Speaker 1: talking about Fanelett, which I'll get into in a second.

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Speaker 2: I also don't know what that is.

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm so excited to explain it. So the

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Speaker 1: reason I wanted to talk about this, This has been

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Speaker 1: and that made me laugh. We did I used to

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Speaker 3: And people who do edits amaze me because that is

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Speaker 1: I have loved it. I I've honestly like completely lost

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Speaker 1: fan elect is it's like a private language between fans

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Speaker 1: So I go into this new fandom and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: This is like actually a language, and in fact, it

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Speaker 1: has been studied. There are a lot of research papers

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, it's like a the research papers are saying,

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Speaker 1: This is I I'm having so much fun because it's

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift with Burissa show me that music, right, but

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Speaker 3: So Siria's question, because there was a lot of conspiracy

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of things, And actually something came out

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Speaker 3: So they're pretty gate kept, like you have to be

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Speaker 1: On, or at least like it's not obvious. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's gate because I learned this new fantom

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Speaker 3: But I just you're also a different beast when it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that is true. That is true. But based

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Speaker 3: Based on these obsessions and then intrigues and then research

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Speaker 1: It has Yeah, yeah except for hear about the hours,

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Speaker 1: that's true. We also have done episodes on shipping and

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Speaker 1: Well, like if a ship you don't like uses a

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Speaker 1: I but that's what I've seen more of, Okay, is

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Speaker 1: I've talked about it before, but in fan fiction you

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Speaker 1: do tagging, and that can also that's also kind of

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Speaker 1: a fan elect that can get weaponized. I usually don't

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Speaker 1: experience it because I through this new experience. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: that typically. I did get my first mean review. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're going too slow. I did get that one too,

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Speaker 1: but that one wasn't that mean. It was just like

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Speaker 1: that's really funny.

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Speaker 2: I can't see. No, it's too much my hand.

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Speaker 1: I appreciated the prose of it. Really took their time.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what are you and conning you like? This is

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Speaker 2: what I like? This is what I didn't like.

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Speaker 1: No, it was just like, no, it's terrible, but a

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Speaker 1: long explanation of why. But a lot of the other readers,

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Speaker 1: It made me laugh, and a bunch of other readers

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, this is thee to see when people

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Speaker 3: can defend you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you appreciated it. Critics, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how to because I usually respond every comment, so I

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Speaker 2: Oh noted, that's why you put just putting noted.

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Speaker 1: I think I'll just do you like a. It really

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Speaker 1: made me laugh? Are you okay?

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Speaker 2: I cannot read yours? I might also be sarcastic.

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Speaker 1: I also got into a super secret fan fiction discord.

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Speaker 2: I know, how's that going? Did you figure it out

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Speaker 2: a little bit?

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Speaker 1: Okay? I don't know how to work discord, but I'm trying.

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