WEBVTT - A Delicate Waltz with Jessie James Decker

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<v Speaker 1>Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio Podcast. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a lot to discuss. Um the band is

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<v Speaker 1>back together. There was a reason why Katherine was not

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<v Speaker 1>on the last few episodes. It was because she's in love.

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't get who knows it and she needed some

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<v Speaker 1>time to go through that. Uh, Katherine, why don't you

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<v Speaker 1>just take the floor, Katherine? Is it someone we know? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>tell us you're in love and we want to know

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<v Speaker 1>who it is. Give us a clue. Let's let's play

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<v Speaker 1>the like, let's play the guessing game. Who is Cat

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<v Speaker 1>in love with? Is it someone you met on Hinge?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not? Also Hinge lasted all of Like, does he

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<v Speaker 1>have any kids? He does? Oh? Does he have one kid? Nope?

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<v Speaker 1>Two kids? Does he have three? Yes? Yes? Three? Does

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<v Speaker 1>he want more kids? Absolutely not. Is that part of

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<v Speaker 1>the reason that you're in love with him? It's actually scheduled?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really? Oh yeah? Wow? Okay, so there's a great

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<v Speaker 1>amount of intimacy in your relationship. Well we have to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about snipping. Well, that's great that we've become intimate

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<v Speaker 1>with who y'all are so funny? Okay, So Nick and

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<v Speaker 1>I are not getting divorced. Some people here have called it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Also, how many times did I say are

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<v Speaker 1>you sure? Are you sure? Because everyone thinks that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like the reason, like the chat's blowing up, wow yeah um,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like literally everyone was like she just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be single, Janna Janna as the reason because she

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<v Speaker 1>just likes miserable people, like she wants to be miserable

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<v Speaker 1>without people. And I'm like, y'all, I'm like, after every

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<v Speaker 1>like after the more work you've done, I'm like, Kavin,

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<v Speaker 1>are you sure? Are you sure you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be back together with Nick? Like? And the funny thing

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<v Speaker 1>about it is like I really kept towards the end

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of that to myself, a lot of it,

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<v Speaker 1>like we didn't even talk about it that much, like

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<v Speaker 1>right in the beginning though I did though for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying before like making the decision, when people are

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<v Speaker 1>like you like convinced me or whatever, it's like we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even really divorced about it. Yeah, I know. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I was like, well, I remember when you came

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<v Speaker 1>over and I was like what, yeah, Like, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>through the years, I wish and discussed, but yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't really talk to anybody about it. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like me and my therapist, you know, so whatever to

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<v Speaker 1>those people. But those people call people miserable as they

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<v Speaker 1>sit behind their keyboards and have opinions about everybody as

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<v Speaker 1>his life. Yeah, but anyway to shame. So anyway. Yeah, So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>long story short, Um, about a month and a half ago, month,

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<v Speaker 1>a little over a month ago. UM, we just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of started working on things. You know, long story short.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't go into all the details, but um, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>everyone knows a lot of our issues, you know, stemmed

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<v Speaker 1>around me and my lack of vulnerability, vulnerability and intimacy,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's just something I knew I had to work on. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I was starting to kind of work on

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<v Speaker 1>myself and a lot of prayer, praying about it a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, UM, I just kind of kept going back

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<v Speaker 1>to him like he was my safe place, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, I have to start here. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's things I need to say to him. Even if

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<v Speaker 1>you were to not get back to kind yeah, there

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<v Speaker 1>was not. At first. That wasn't the goal. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>goal was just to open up, tell him how I felt.

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<v Speaker 1>In the beginning, it was like we're getting divorced, after

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen years, and I need to tell him. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's a great dad. I think that he did was

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<v Speaker 1>a great husband, you know those things. But as it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of went on and I was able to like

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<v Speaker 1>dig into my emotions, it's like I realized like that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to lose him, you know, that he

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<v Speaker 1>was my best friend. I just wasn't a too open

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<v Speaker 1>up and I needed to work on that. So I

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<v Speaker 1>started to work on that. But it just happened to

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<v Speaker 1>be that I wanted to work on it with him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And so it just kind of overtime. So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we were sneaking around because we don't want

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't tell our kids. So it was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he had a rental and I had my house. Like

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<v Speaker 1>we were literally like sneaking, Like he got a rental car.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like chool. I felt like high school, but

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<v Speaker 1>I never even did that and called a sack. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't either. I just said that I didn't do that

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<v Speaker 1>in high school. Either. Had fun at thirty eight, but

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<v Speaker 1>like we went on, I planned like a little vacation

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning, or just like a night out and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wait, do we even get to ride together?

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<v Speaker 1>Like where do I put my car? And we were

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<v Speaker 1>going to meet at this one place, but like the

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<v Speaker 1>whole town was there, so it's like we can't go there.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't do town stuff. So we went to a

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<v Speaker 1>gas station outside of town, parked my car, met and drove.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, So but what have fun? Like so fun? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and falling in love all her again. Yeah, when I

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<v Speaker 1>think to like, I remember one of the times when

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<v Speaker 1>it came over as a friend. My god, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that, but like I remember him being like Catherine

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<v Speaker 1>was vulnerably vulnerable with me for the first time, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Nick, I'm like, well maybe y'all can you

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<v Speaker 1>know And he's like no, He's like I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like I don't know, but I'm like, like

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<v Speaker 1>you were opening up, like he was like welcoming the

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<v Speaker 1>opening up, and I'm just like, I don't know. There's

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<v Speaker 1>always a piece of me that actually it was just

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<v Speaker 1>like that's why I kept saying, like I'm sure there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing there, like you don't mean to try because it's

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<v Speaker 1>like he's because it's like you kept saying that he's

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<v Speaker 1>my best friend, and I'm like, then what is the problem, right? So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you just need to. I mean like, yeah, well yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it was the intendency block, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget you saying that to me. And You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>well do you think you could? And I was like nope,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just shut down. I just put my wall back.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember. I remember literally like I can't even talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Um yeah, we're like as not as no.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I love it. Speak time I talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it, I would absolutely tear up. But I'm learning now.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's just I know it. I'm very aware

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<v Speaker 1>of it when I do it again. I remember in

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<v Speaker 1>the car, just like shut it down, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that's what I always did in our marriage, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I mean, honestly, I know it sounds very cliche,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I literally just get up every morning and

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<v Speaker 1>I say the same prayer every morning, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a day by day thing for me. Just

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<v Speaker 1>to keep my heart heart open is the biggest thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And to just keep you know, pursuing it and showing up.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think that that's always There were always

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<v Speaker 1>things that I knew I should do, that would pop

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<v Speaker 1>into my head that I should say all those things

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<v Speaker 1>and I just didn't do it. You know, we were

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<v Speaker 1>just so far just like in our corners that I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do it and he didn't. You know, he gave

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<v Speaker 1>up to It's like we both kind of gave up. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so anyway, so yeah, so now it's just like, so,

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<v Speaker 1>what does the road look like now? You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>did tell the kids, so the kids are aware. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they were definitely starting to pick up on it. You

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<v Speaker 1>know when we told them. My thirteen year old was

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<v Speaker 1>like I knew it, you know. So I mean like

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, um, and what a inspiring thing for them

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<v Speaker 1>to witness to. Yeah, that's what I'm like. That was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't I was how happy were they? I can't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine liked story the video. I have a video and

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<v Speaker 1>an the best because I mean she cried throughout the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was the sweetest thing. And she's constantly

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<v Speaker 1>like that makes me want to cry. She yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean she's constantly even now she's like, hey go his dad,

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<v Speaker 1>Hey go hold his hand, hey go, Like she just

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<v Speaker 1>so badly wanted to see affection, you know. Um. It's

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<v Speaker 1>such good groundwork for them that before you go to

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<v Speaker 1>the next thing, I just want to say something I

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<v Speaker 1>just wrote downside and forget it. I when I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking on Instagram, I was like, I noticed, by the way, However,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen years that i've known you and Nick together, I've

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<v Speaker 1>never seen your hand on his shoulder, arm and leg.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, who crap. I was like Cat

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<v Speaker 1>put her hand on his shoulder at the football game

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<v Speaker 1>physical I was like, go, girl, go. I ran into

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<v Speaker 1>them at a birthday party on Sunday and I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>look who it is on the love seat, literally like

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<v Speaker 1>real side touching close. I mean I usually used to

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<v Speaker 1>make my skin crawl. That sounds terrible, but that's what

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<v Speaker 1>Mike was. He'd be like, every time you touched me,

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<v Speaker 1>my skin crawls. And I'm like, oh, it feels really

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<v Speaker 1>good for you to say that. It sounds terrible, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's hard to explain it, truly, it's hard to explain.

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<v Speaker 1>So is the road trying to figure out where the

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<v Speaker 1>intimacy block comes or like what is like we've hit

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've destroyed the intimacy block from my understand Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was just able to. It started with

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<v Speaker 1>just a very vulnerable conversation and it was hard and

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<v Speaker 1>it was not easy to have that conversation. But once

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<v Speaker 1>I was able to, and I literally broke down. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just be honest, like complete breakdown. At this point, I

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<v Speaker 1>have nothing thing to lose kind of thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>then it was just easier. Um. You know, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, I think that's always going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of me, and I think I'm always going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to constantly work at it. Um. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>aware of that, and we have a lot of conversation

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<v Speaker 1>about it. But I'm just you know, like sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even notice it when I'm touching him. Now sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I have to tell myself to do it. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a mix, and I think that's okay to like

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, like with Mike, it's like he's like I

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<v Speaker 1>have to physically like touch her leg. And as hard

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<v Speaker 1>as it is for like me to like be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't you want to, It's like I know that

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<v Speaker 1>he's like trying, and I think that's all Nick probably

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<v Speaker 1>wants to. It's just like the effort put in where

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<v Speaker 1>like the effort was lost, you know, well it becomes

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<v Speaker 1>just like a habit over eventually, yeah, where you're just

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<v Speaker 1>become business partners essentially a room exactly, and that's the

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<v Speaker 1>tricky part because the undoing of that is so frustrating

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<v Speaker 1>and long and hope lost. Yeah, and I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's interesting because, you know, I definitely choosing to

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<v Speaker 1>not regret the road that we took to get there. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely seeing as it's all was blessed and it

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<v Speaker 1>needed to happen that way. I think I had to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of the situation and be broken to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to like fix you know, what was broken essentially. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't even regret that. You know. I was

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<v Speaker 1>a little worried with the kids, like do I need

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<v Speaker 1>to say I'm sorry that we put you through this?

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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah blah. But it's like they're just happy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And then they also saw us happy together,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was you know, even so I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful because they see all working like that's like what

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<v Speaker 1>they should see is like you guys working towards it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because again, it's not good for them just to see

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<v Speaker 1>happy parents never fighting, right, It's not good just to

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<v Speaker 1>see them fighting all the time. So it's like to

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<v Speaker 1>show the like work and the commitment like, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's like what they should see now. If it was

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get divorced again and three and then again

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<v Speaker 1>and back and forth like that back and forth would

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot on them. But like, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's why we waited, you know, we wanted you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because that first week or so, it was very every

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<v Speaker 1>conversation was if we do this, if we do this,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was just like a point where it just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of flipped. You know, I can't even explain it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it just kind of flipped. It's like, we're doing this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but we have to protect the kids. But

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, at the end of the day, my

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing was breaking the cycle because my parents did

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<v Speaker 1>not show affection. They had the same issues. I just

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<v Speaker 1>had to make a decision on which way I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to break the cycle. And it was either we

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<v Speaker 1>get out of this and then we go get other

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<v Speaker 1>relationships and they're going to have to be healthy to

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<v Speaker 1>show them. And then once I was out of it,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I have to fix this no matter what,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I'd rather do it with him and

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<v Speaker 1>then go back and show him them what a healthy

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<v Speaker 1>relationship should look like. So I mean, really big, giant,

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<v Speaker 1>inspiring work. And I love personally that it happened the

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<v Speaker 1>way it did for any like validation you may need

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<v Speaker 1>from what a kid sees. I don't for some reason

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<v Speaker 1>that that like the separation and you two learning yourselves

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<v Speaker 1>enough and who's you are and then to come back

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<v Speaker 1>to each other like that really is. That's like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the redemption story. That's huge. And let me say to y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know it, but I found out later

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<v Speaker 1>that um my ten year old Emmy and another person

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<v Speaker 1>in our not immediate family, but in our family had

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<v Speaker 1>been praying together for us to get back together like often,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's such a cool thing to be to

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<v Speaker 1>show her like, look like your prayers were answered, you

0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.439
<v Speaker 1>talked to God, you asked a very specific thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>it happened, and may not have happened, you know, or

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<v Speaker 1>if it didn't happen, like, but it was just a

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<v Speaker 1>good time. It's a good thing to really show her.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's been like really great for her

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<v Speaker 1>because she's like, wow, like it really worked, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's like a good like sometimes you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what you have, but also like until you

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<v Speaker 1>lose it. You know. It's like I think not that

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<v Speaker 1>you ever like took Nick for grien or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>but like it's like you realize, like, well he was

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<v Speaker 1>my best friend and he was like sometimes you don't

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<v Speaker 1>realize those things until like you lose it, like and

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<v Speaker 1>then again, like you're saying, like, no matter what, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to work on yourself, whether it's with Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's with the guy from Hinge, like you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, like whoever it is. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's like that's the same thing. Like you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we can all attest to that, like things within

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<v Speaker 1>your marriage, things with me dating. I'm like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>like I have to change some stuff where I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>keep picking the same I'm gonna keep doing the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like it's like we have we have to

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<v Speaker 1>work on ourselves. It's not about the other persons about ourselves.

0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:30.400
<v Speaker 1>And you find this shopping. But I'm not super affectionate,

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<v Speaker 1>so you told me that, I know, And so I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't want you to feel alone in that, like

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<v Speaker 1>I have to sometimes, which I think would be unexpecting

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<v Speaker 1>from people that would listen to me. So I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>like I am with the kids excessively, like they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to need a therapist for opposite reasons that I did.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I'm not super affectionate with Preston enough either,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I've had to work on that because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>severely independent, and when I'm learning from Amy, our mutual therapist,

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<v Speaker 1>is that my severe independence once was my survival tactic,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't need it anymore. And so I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to ask you if that was but I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to purchect if you will without a doubt that

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<v Speaker 1>was me. But like I don't have to be Christen

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<v Speaker 1>from Michigan all the time in that way like heart,

0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:19.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I toughen up and I can take

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<v Speaker 1>care of myself. But it's like, but I can also

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<v Speaker 1>just be like, hey that hurt my feelings or hey

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<v Speaker 1>I need this. And what's interesting is in a relationship

0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:31.000
<v Speaker 1>sometimes somebody needs to know that they're needed. Very elementary.

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<v Speaker 1>But for some reason I missed the memo that it

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<v Speaker 1>served us when we needed it to serve us, and

0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:39.160
<v Speaker 1>in our lifestyle, my lifestyle at home, it does serve

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<v Speaker 1>me because he's gone so much that me being independent

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<v Speaker 1>and handling life and you know, being mom and dad

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<v Speaker 1>when I need to be a husband and wife when

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<v Speaker 1>I need to be is like okay, but I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>working on that well. Because independence, I've I've learned can

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<v Speaker 1>be a positive and such a negative. It can be

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<v Speaker 1>both and it's just learning arts, yeah for sure, but yeah,

0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.400
<v Speaker 1>absolut there's so much about independence that keeps serving me.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a lot of things I can just lay

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<v Speaker 1>down and honestly, it was exhausting still using independence and

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<v Speaker 1>pieces of that. You know what's like interesting too, like

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<v Speaker 1>just like hearing that and reflecting on it. Is like

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<v Speaker 1>when I when there's someone that likes me, I'm actually

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<v Speaker 1>not as affectionate, but like I'm more affectionate to those

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<v Speaker 1>that like I feel like I have to like oh

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<v Speaker 1>like proving, like proving or like to like chase to

0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.000
<v Speaker 1>to chase like those people I'm more affectionate with. And

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<v Speaker 1>the guys that like I know that would want to

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<v Speaker 1>be with me, it's like, oh no, like this because

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<v Speaker 1>it feels foreign, foreign to have the guys actually like

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<v Speaker 1>showing me affection Like no joke. Flowers showed up in

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<v Speaker 1>my house and I was like, who are these from?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? Like this must be before

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<v Speaker 1>my grandpa. Like that guy doesn't send flowers, you know,

0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:52.240
<v Speaker 1>so good guys do send flower But it's like I

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<v Speaker 1>see that I'm just saying like that. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh. I was like, I'm actually not as

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<v Speaker 1>touchy with people that like, because it's like it's scary

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<v Speaker 1>in like foreign. Yeah. I think the fear of rejection.

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<v Speaker 1>If I went back through all my relationships and saw

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<v Speaker 1>I really dated some winners, um, but there was so

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<v Speaker 1>many like hurtful comments that I think my vulnerability got

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<v Speaker 1>shut out a little bit. And I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just guard myself then, because clearly you guys can't

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<v Speaker 1>take care of me. And then I made it a

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<v Speaker 1>gender wide pandemic in my brain. So then I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>none of them can be trusted. And then God gave me.

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<v Speaker 1>God gave me legend, my son, and I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>now here's a turn of events on plot twist, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to have to learn how to love this

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to hear the messages you get about

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<v Speaker 1>me saying that, but like, I'm gonna have to learn

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<v Speaker 1>to love this gender so much more differently and fullhearted. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they're not all lumped together anymore. I had

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<v Speaker 1>to start picking them apart. You know, well I meant,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean truly, I mean, and again, I don't want

0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:52.280
<v Speaker 1>you to think like nothing is rainbows and butterflies, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to have hard times in your marriage. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have hard times, like you're gonna have great times.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna amazing times. And it's like no matter what,

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<v Speaker 1>like we all go through struggles and you guys, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>worked it out and that's amazing, like truly, like that's

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<v Speaker 1>like we don't get to pick how how it's broken

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<v Speaker 1>apart sometimes to be healed. Yeah, I just think that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>And even when like in your healing and you're still

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<v Speaker 1>like having to go like, oh this is like it's okay,

0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Like you're not like it's not going to be like

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<v Speaker 1>we have the best marriage ever. It's okay. You still

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<v Speaker 1>have like moments of like struggle and hard times. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a lot of people why people piece

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<v Speaker 1>out so fast is because it's like, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>just and it's like because I mean, frick, as much

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<v Speaker 1>as I would have loved to have pieced out, like

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<v Speaker 1>the first time I heard about Mike cheating and like

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, it's like did the work to try?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like sometimes like you try and you try

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<v Speaker 1>and you try, and it's like then you realize, like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not working, and it's like for y'all, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you you guys chose to like you're trying together, and

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<v Speaker 1>like that's beautiful no matter what, like and you can

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<v Speaker 1>know regardless, like how that's a thing, like you know

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<v Speaker 1>that you try because I think and this is what

0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I had said to you, And I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I think bee this, I said this so

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<v Speaker 1>nick to and so but I I was always fearful

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<v Speaker 1>that you were going to regret leaving because you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>try wholeheartedly. And I don't please, don't take that like no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the first thing I said. When I sat down

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<v Speaker 1>with him, I started bawling and I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel like I tried. It was like there was

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<v Speaker 1>there was two hard looking. I needed to make a

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<v Speaker 1>decision because I'm a person that can't sit in that

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<v Speaker 1>gray and I'm just like, I have to make a decision.

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<v Speaker 1>This is hard and this is hard. Which hard am

0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.600
<v Speaker 1>I going to choose? And I just chose that one

0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.840
<v Speaker 1>and then realized, wait a minute, I still have to

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<v Speaker 1>do the other hard for myself, you know. So yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right. That's literally the first thing I said. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think even in the trying, like Janna is saying,

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<v Speaker 1>when you try, even in the in the very least,

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<v Speaker 1>you're still going to meet yourself somewhere you've never met

0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:46.800
<v Speaker 1>yourself before. So even if it doesn't work relationship wise,

0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.840
<v Speaker 1>you're still gaining momentum on yourself in your own coming

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<v Speaker 1>back to yourself and all of it anyway, and now

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<v Speaker 1>you'll know like you did everything, you tried everything, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and don't feel like a failure if it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, who knows, like we just don't know, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's like as long as like that's why I was

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<v Speaker 1>so not easy for me to because it as hard

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<v Speaker 1>as hell to walk away. But I was also like,

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<v Speaker 1>I try everything, and I can rest in my head

0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.160
<v Speaker 1>like I can you know, you left nothing on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>But but if I would have left six years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have been like, I wonder if we could

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<v Speaker 1>have made it work, like I really, But then there's

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<v Speaker 1>also like some you know, so as I'm just saying, like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>matter what, Like, I'm proud of you for trying. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly I understand your point of view more now

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<v Speaker 1>because I think in the very beginning, we're like, why

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<v Speaker 1>aren't you leaving? I'm like, but now I see that

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, yeah, that regret and not that I necessarily

0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:42.040
<v Speaker 1>was sitting in this place of regret, but you might have. Doubly,

0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it would have caught up to you. Certainty

0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:46.800
<v Speaker 1>turns in the regret. I think if you don't get

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<v Speaker 1>certain about it, whatever way, you can understand why you

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<v Speaker 1>had to be able to say I tried everything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like I totally understand that now. I honestly think scar

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<v Speaker 1>tissue in a relationship is hot. I think it's beautiful

0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:01.840
<v Speaker 1>and I think like a favorite, like I wish my

0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:04.520
<v Speaker 1>X and I like could have been the like that

0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:07.800
<v Speaker 1>could have been our redemption story story. But it's beautiful

0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:11.920
<v Speaker 1>scar tissue. We do like stunning scar tissue, a lot

0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:14.840
<v Speaker 1>of it, But you really do. I mean, but you

0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:18.080
<v Speaker 1>fought the good fight, no pun intended, but like, I

0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:19.800
<v Speaker 1>don't forget to buy that book because it still matters.

0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:22.560
<v Speaker 1>And my part was don't read the trust because that

0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:25.359
<v Speaker 1>was all a lie. But it's to tell the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you what all of that was a lie? Anyways,

0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:32.920
<v Speaker 1>it was opposite day. I just feel like, but like

0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:35.680
<v Speaker 1>you really did, like your scar tissue matters, because Jason

0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Jolie have a scar tissue to fall back on. They

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<v Speaker 1>saw two people go for it as hard as hard

0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:44.399
<v Speaker 1>as they could. They didn't see either. But anyways, moving on,

0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:46.399
<v Speaker 1>we all have good therapists and great. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>there's redemption stories for every marriage. Whether it stays that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, or gets back together, y'all will have

0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:58.080
<v Speaker 1>a redemption story each of you. I'm excited. Thanks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's amazing. And I came out of came out of

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom and I was like baby cat Nick her

0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.000
<v Speaker 1>fighting together, and He's like, halleluja. Knew it was gonna happen.

0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:11.159
<v Speaker 1>It's so funny how many people said that. Yeah. It's

0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:13.880
<v Speaker 1>also interesting like when you get divorced, how many people

0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:16.280
<v Speaker 1>you here go like, oh I saw that comment, or man,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you guys made it work. And

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<v Speaker 1>then like to hear people say that about getting guy together.

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<v Speaker 1>People saw that coming together. Okay, well we are about

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<v Speaker 1>to get Jesse James Decker on. She's killing it right

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<v Speaker 1>now and dancing with the stars, so let's get her

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<v Speaker 1>on Jesse. You're in the dance studio. Hey, girls, let

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<v Speaker 1>me do full screen here. You look gor I know

0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:58.440
<v Speaker 1>what is happening. God, thanks, I'm exhausted. Um yeah, you've been.

0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean obviously, because I feel like even when we

0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:02.920
<v Speaker 1>ran into each other, I don't know, a month or

0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:04.400
<v Speaker 1>so ago, You're like, I'm just all over the place,

0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:07.640
<v Speaker 1>and then you started texting me, You're like what about

0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Like I was like, who is your hair person? Was

0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:12.440
<v Speaker 1>dancing the stars? And like what she questions? And I

0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:16.119
<v Speaker 1>was like, what's going on? Tell me everything? Um, but

0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:20.640
<v Speaker 1>were you hesitant to do the show? So the only

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<v Speaker 1>reason why I was hesitant would just be like the

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<v Speaker 1>time commitment, because you know we're I mean, you all

0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:30.760
<v Speaker 1>know we're mothers and so like you've got kids, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the first thing that pops to my mind, is like,

0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:35.879
<v Speaker 1>how the heck am I supposed to balance this? Because

0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:40.000
<v Speaker 1>our kids conversed and so I think I needed to

0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:42.840
<v Speaker 1>understand the schedule. And as soon as I was told

0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I was going to be able to practice and rehearse

0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:48.880
<v Speaker 1>in Nashville, that was a game changer for me because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's always been like that, right, Um,

0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:53.600
<v Speaker 1>you know you you definitely could. I mean I remember

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<v Speaker 1>um when I did. I did most of mine um

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<v Speaker 1>in l A. But the problem is I was touring

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<v Speaker 1>to just like you know, you're doing shows you and

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<v Speaker 1>I think you know, we, Katherine, you know, had to

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<v Speaker 1>cancel a bunch of shows because towards the end of it,

0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:09.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I can't keep doing shows and rehearsal and

0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:11.080
<v Speaker 1>be a mom. I'm like, I'm like, I don't even

0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:12.800
<v Speaker 1>like and now I feel like I almost have a

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<v Speaker 1>shot at it. So I'm like, so we started to

0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:18.159
<v Speaker 1>cancel shows because it just got just um emotional, I

0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:19.879
<v Speaker 1>mean emotionally but like physically, I mean all of it

0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:23.080
<v Speaker 1>just like a lot. And then traveling you throw a

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<v Speaker 1>flying and I don't know about y'all, but like I

0:23:26.000 --> 0:23:28.439
<v Speaker 1>I know people that can get on planes and then

0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:31.480
<v Speaker 1>get right back to business. It sucks the life out

0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:34.080
<v Speaker 1>of me flying. It just drains me. And so you

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:37.280
<v Speaker 1>throw that in there and it's like but yeah, So

0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:38.680
<v Speaker 1>as soon as I was asked to do what, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I need to figure out what it is

0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:42.480
<v Speaker 1>that I need to keep and what I can move

0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:44.240
<v Speaker 1>and who will be cool with me moving some of

0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:46.440
<v Speaker 1>these things around and some of these shows, because it

0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:48.960
<v Speaker 1>is You're right, like, it's hard to do everything and

0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:51.920
<v Speaker 1>juggle everything at once. Where do you think emotionally you

0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:56.720
<v Speaker 1>are going into week three? I feel like I am

0:23:57.400 --> 0:24:00.159
<v Speaker 1>more positive this week. Last week I was a little like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, like, I don't I don't know how week like,

0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:06.119
<v Speaker 1>I felt like week one and the first dance was

0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:09.959
<v Speaker 1>so great, and then you know, the scores didn't totally

0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:12.080
<v Speaker 1>reflect that, so I was like, dang, I don't I

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm not a dancer, so I don't know

0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:16.440
<v Speaker 1>what's good and what's not good. So for me, I

0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:18.080
<v Speaker 1>thought it was good, but I guess it wasn't. I

0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:20.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know. And then week two I went into it

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:24.600
<v Speaker 1>more serious and just not as confident because I'm like, okay,

0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:26.720
<v Speaker 1>like I better straighten my legs, I better do all

0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:30.439
<v Speaker 1>these things. Now, going into a week three, I'm feeling

0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:34.600
<v Speaker 1>really positive. I think about it. Everything that you've said,

0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Jannah has been that. I refer to your little Dancing

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:41.960
<v Speaker 1>with the Stars calendar that you've given me, and you

0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:44.800
<v Speaker 1>so because I literally said he I was like, okay,

0:24:44.880 --> 0:24:46.719
<v Speaker 1>you're going to go through a wave of motions. Week one,

0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:48.400
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be fun, but then you're not gonnat the scores.

0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Then you're gonna be like depressed, and like week four

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:51.359
<v Speaker 1>you're like you're gonna want to quit. And then like

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<v Speaker 1>week said so, you get your best score ever, and

0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:55.440
<v Speaker 1>then it's like so much fun. And it's like because

0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:57.440
<v Speaker 1>they put you and then like that's that's the whole

0:24:57.440 --> 0:24:59.000
<v Speaker 1>point too, like they're putting. They're not gonna give you

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<v Speaker 1>like all eight or all nines. And and then it's

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:03.280
<v Speaker 1>also hard to when you see these people that are

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:05.800
<v Speaker 1>really good or the head dance before and you're like,

0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:08.199
<v Speaker 1>well that's not fair, like I've never danced a day

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:10.560
<v Speaker 1>in my life. And but it's like but then they're

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:12.440
<v Speaker 1>going to give them low score. Like you just watch

0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:14.160
<v Speaker 1>like it's it's all going to start like to turn,

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:15.639
<v Speaker 1>because then then they're going to be harder on you,

0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:17.560
<v Speaker 1>harder on them, and then they'll be better on you.

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:20.119
<v Speaker 1>And it's like which week do you fight with your partner?

0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I think me it's just like anyone that you're forming

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 1>a partnership with or um a friendship, anything, there's there's

0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:36.919
<v Speaker 1>always going to be those getting to know each other

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:41.480
<v Speaker 1>kinks speaking of my party, keeping to know each other

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:44.440
<v Speaker 1>things that you work through and it's like, you know,

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:47.320
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like we've done that really well. You know,

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:49.879
<v Speaker 1>last week we really got to know each other on

0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:52.440
<v Speaker 1>it on even more so, and I just feel like

0:25:53.119 --> 0:25:57.240
<v Speaker 1>we really are understanding one another, and I just think

0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:00.879
<v Speaker 1>it makes for an even better partnership. Where do you

0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 1>think that you guys uh kind of bad? You know,

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:07.719
<v Speaker 1>um butt heads a little bit when it comes to training.

0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 1>He's just very passionate and I love that and I

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 1>understand passion. I come from a really passionate family. I

0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 1>think the only time is like I just so it

0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 1>takes me a little longer to grasp certain things. So

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 1>all I asked, where just a little grace period to

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:23.920
<v Speaker 1>like understand what I'm doing. Um, but I really think

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 1>that we're working through those things. And it's like I

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:28.520
<v Speaker 1>have a pep in my step these last couple of

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 1>days because I really feel like we're finding our way together. Um,

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 1>who is your best friend on the show like dancing

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 1>partner wise? Like that's that's on the show, Celeberty. I

0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know yet. There's certain people you see more because

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:46.880
<v Speaker 1>I guess you're kind of in like a pod system. Um,

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 1>and so I feel like there's certain people that you

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:51.879
<v Speaker 1>see consistently because they're dancing the same time of rehearsing

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 1>the same time you. So I think I see Charlie

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:58.680
<v Speaker 1>and she Angela more than anyone, and so we I

0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:02.480
<v Speaker 1>feel like I always chatted up and catch up with

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Mark and Charlie probably more than anyone because we seem

0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 1>to practice and rehearse the same time. And she's just

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 1>so I love that, you know, she's and she's amazing too.

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like so many people like incredible. When I watched

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:15.879
<v Speaker 1>the show, I was like, oh, man, like I would like,

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 1>there's so many good dancers too on the show. Everyone seriously,

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 1>like half of the squad is so incredible. I'm sitting

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:25.680
<v Speaker 1>there like with my mouth on the ground, being like,

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:29.120
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, they're so good. But they're like they

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 1>look professional, like from a thirty thou feet perspective. To me,

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 1>you fit there like it was but I mean that

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 1>like truly though, Like it wasn't like one of those

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh okay, you know, like because I mean, listen,

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 1>if they tried to cast me with Dancing the Stars.

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:46.240
<v Speaker 1>You and you guys would feel really good about yourself.

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 1>But it's like it just feels to me like a

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 1>natural fit. So I feel like it's good that you

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 1>feel positive this week because you should be because you

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 1>you're meant to be there, and you should be there.

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 1>You're a little booty shaker j j D. Let's not pretend. Well,

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 1>thank you. I man, it's funny because you feel like

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:06.160
<v Speaker 1>you're a good dancer. Like growing up, there's I've always

0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:08.200
<v Speaker 1>feel like I had rhythm, but you come into this

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>and you were humbled immediately going. You might have natural rhythm,

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>but like learning steps is a whole other level. Like Jenny,

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 1>you made it look so easy and so effortless, Like

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I watched and I remember just thinking, like you you

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 1>just made it look so easy, girl. I was the

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:28.920
<v Speaker 1>ice on your ribs. It was so hard. I mean that.

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 1>And that's you know, when I said to you, I'm like,

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, that was a note. I was got

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 1>to like, you know, stronger legs, stronger legs. I mean,

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:36.399
<v Speaker 1>Glad would just be like yelling at I mean like

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I am literally doing the best I can, like and

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember, and I'm sorry and I told you, like,

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't until like the maybe the day before where

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Okay, it's starting to click. You know. It's

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 1>like it's hard. But I mean at the same time,

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 1>like I told you to like just have fun because

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 1>it goes by so fast, And that is something that

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 1>I've really tried to think, even though we're only going

0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>into week three, I've really tried to step in and go, Okay,

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 1>remember to have fun. Jass, Like, I don't want to

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 1>walk away from this and be like I should have

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed it more because I was so stressed out. Like

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:10.560
<v Speaker 1>it is stressful, it is so hard. You're challenging yourself.

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 1>You're putting yourself in a situation you never have before,

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 1>so it is heavy on you. But I do think

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 1>about what you say every time. I, like Jama said

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>to remember to just like enjoy myself. So I'm really

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 1>trying to do it because I wish I could go

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>back like that's how and like and just truly have

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>fun with it and like and know that like your

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 1>kids will be okay. They're always going to be okay.

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 1>They've got you know, an amazing you have an amazing husband,

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 1>amazing they have amazing dad, and it's like they're one

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 1>of the things that the two I love when I

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:42.479
<v Speaker 1>went to your show at the Rhyme and like your

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 1>kids are watching you, like live your dreams and be

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 1>this boss ass babe, and like you know and just

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 1>like run companies, kittenish and all these other things that

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 1>you do. It's like you are showing your children like

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 1>how to be like this amazing independent, strong woman and

0:29:57.280 --> 0:30:00.040
<v Speaker 1>loving and nurturing and like like you come home and

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:01.479
<v Speaker 1>like you're cooking them the soup, and I'm like, how

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 1>does she find the time? Like I'm microwaving chicken nuggets,

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 1>like I'm just laying the recipes already in a book

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 1>because she did that too, and damn it, just how

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 1>is she doing this? And it's like you are showing

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>it like your kids like just like I know, like

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 1>you probably miss them right now and you want to

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 1>be with them, but it's like you like they they

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>are watching you, and you are giving them more from

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 1>doing what you're doing than, like, you know, than being

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 1>in their face for sure. And I have to keep

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 1>in mind. Another friend told my book, this is a

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 1>blimped time this time and like it may feel so

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 1>long now but it's not. And so I do keep

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 1>trying to tell myself that because like you, Jana, I'm

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>in it. I'm freaking in it and I want to work,

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 1>but I'm like I'm in it with with my kids

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's the most important thing to me in

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:48.080
<v Speaker 1>the whole world. But I do have to remember, like

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 1>it's okay to do something for myself and try something

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 1>new and challenge myself in a different way, like this

0:30:57.040 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>is for me, this is for me to go. I'm

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 1>putting myself out of a comfort zone and exhausting something

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 1>that I've never done and it's okay, and it's like

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 1>something I'm gonna be proud of one day when i

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>step away from all this going, I can't believe I

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:11.720
<v Speaker 1>did that and I'm proud of myself for that, and

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 1>it's like good for you. Yeah, I feel like we

0:31:14.480 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 1>all need to do that, like I'll step out of

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 1>something like That's why, Like Jess, I know we can't

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 1>say the show, but like we both got asked to

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 1>do a show, and I'm like, man, I want to

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 1>do this because it would be so out of my

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 1>comfort zone because I always stay in like like even yes,

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm driving on the expressway now, but I'm staying on

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 1>the right lane. I don't get into the middle lanes

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 1>like I stay in my comfort zone, like lane over

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Cramer Beef. It's like, I'm like, girl, we got places

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 1>to go, and I see her over their Grandma pace

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 1>to settled into that right lane. I'm the speed stir

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 1>all the way and the other lang J J D

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:47.600
<v Speaker 1>and I are like pedal to the metal raising show

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 1>actually on the side streets, not on this pressway. I know,

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 1>is there. I mean, Jesse, we were talking about this

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 1>in an episode. I know. We we talk just tooth

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 1>and nail, just you and me, like on text with this,

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 1>but like how you deal with hate is like so

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 1>beautifully done, because I feel like you do get picked

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 1>apart a lot, and like every time, like you know,

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>and I say, I'm like a girl, I went down

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 1>read it and you're like, why do you do that

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 1>to yourself? You know, And it's like and it's like

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I always kind of listen to the things that you

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 1>say because you have such a fresh take on it,

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:36.720
<v Speaker 1>and also like but then you also get vulnerable, like

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:39.560
<v Speaker 1>you're like when people were someone says something about your

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 1>weight and I remember being like what is wrong with people?

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Like why are they like it's like, it's so hurtful

0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 1>it is. I think what happens is when you are

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 1>in the spotlight and you put yourself out there, it

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 1>people feel like they have a right to say what

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 1>they want to say, and they would never say these

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 1>things to you on the street, but it does put

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>you in a place where people feel like they can

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 1>be comfortable enough to give their opinion even when it's

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 1>not nice. And I do think sometimes whenever we are

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 1>texting about that, it is hurtful. And yes I did

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:15.000
<v Speaker 1>put on weight this summer, thank you for noticing that

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 1>and acknowledging acknowledging that random person like thank you. It's

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 1>it's the things that you already feel hard on yourself

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 1>about that someone else is pointing out, and it is hard.

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 1>We're human beings, and I do feel like people need

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 1>to stop and realize that. But like we've said, it's

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 1>never gonna go away. It will always be there and

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 1>so but our perspective can change, and it goes for

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 1>people that are in the spotlight or someone who's not

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 1>on the spotlight. When people are saying hurtful things, you

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 1>have to remember like they can't be happy. They can't

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 1>be waking up feeling the sunshine on their face and

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 1>happy to go about their day if they want to

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 1>hurt people all day long. Hurt people, hurt people. It's

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 1>a real thing. And so I try to sit back

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 1>and have grace for those people now. And what's another

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>word that I think of sometimes I guess perspective of that.

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 1>They're they've got to be sad. They've got to be

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:13.320
<v Speaker 1>hurting every day, and I want to have sympathy instead

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 1>and stop getting angry. It used to make me angry

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:17.840
<v Speaker 1>and used to make me want to cry all the

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 1>time and look in the mirror going maybe I do

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:23.440
<v Speaker 1>have a big nose, maybe I am overweight, maybe all

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:25.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, all the things they want to point out.

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>But I now have sympathy for those people, and I

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 1>swear to God I pray for them at night now

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 1>because and it makes me have more peace with it

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 1>going you know what they're hurting. I can't imagine what

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:38.799
<v Speaker 1>their lives must be like to want to wake up

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 1>every day and get on their computer and point out

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:43.239
<v Speaker 1>all the things that I already know about myself. So

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:45.359
<v Speaker 1>you just got to take a bath and go I'm

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:47.399
<v Speaker 1>gonna pray for them, and I'm gonna keep going about

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:49.440
<v Speaker 1>my business because they're not going to affect me. And

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be happy. That's a word. Yeah, I love that.

0:34:54.360 --> 0:35:00.200
<v Speaker 1>But yeah it's I'm like quiet, like already it's tear well,

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:02.759
<v Speaker 1>but you just have to like even now, like you

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 1>can't give it any more attention. It's like we have

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:07.320
<v Speaker 1>to now, like because the more attention you give it,

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 1>the more it makes it real. So it's like I

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 1>feel it. Yeah, we move on from it. I know.

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I went out on this one day with someone and

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 1>they were starting to talk, Oh that's the ugly version

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 1>of this person and like, oh my god, hiss like

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 1>his his this, that and the other. And I'm like,

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:25.960
<v Speaker 1>people are so freaking mean. I'm like why, Like I'm

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 1>just like, as long as I want to, that's all

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 1>that matters, okay, Like hey mean, like it's like, donnan,

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:34.840
<v Speaker 1>you don't need to be mean like and say like

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>hurtful things about other people. And they're it's like there's

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:39.279
<v Speaker 1>just some people who were never mean gold in high

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 1>school and it shows. That's all I'll say for sure.

0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 1>And it's just and I think about that and there

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:48.320
<v Speaker 1>are the mean girls. Alan and I were just talking

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 1>about that he had trouble in school where people were

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 1>mean to him, and they Alan came here, tom my friend.

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 1>They they were like hurtful for him. Who wanted to

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:04.320
<v Speaker 1>be a look at this guy. I got the privilege

0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:08.120
<v Speaker 1>of dancing with Alan a few times when when Glub

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 1>was sick, and you were just like, you're just the sweetest.

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:11.360
<v Speaker 1>When I found out she had you, I was like,

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 1>he's the best. You'll love him. He's so kind. But

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting to say you got bully because so my

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 1>son's and dance, I'm I'm you know, he's he's in

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:21.720
<v Speaker 1>hip hop now, and I'm like, man, so like boys,

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:23.960
<v Speaker 1>like what do I tell him when the kids bullying

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>actually won't get okay? Shoot? But like but because really,

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 1>like what do they say to you? You know, like

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:37.320
<v Speaker 1>at the time, growing up, it just it was taboo

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:40.760
<v Speaker 1>for a boy to dance. There was no boy dancers.

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Dancing with the stars wasn't even really a thing until

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, two thousand five when it started. So like

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:50.720
<v Speaker 1>growing up, when I was Tann eleven years old, dancing

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 1>wasn't famous, It wasn't it wasn't fun. It wasn't cool.

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:56.480
<v Speaker 1>No one did it, and I got made fun of

0:36:56.560 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot um In hindsight, you know, actually, at the time,

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:04.880
<v Speaker 1>even I didn't care because obviously I love dancing so

0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:08.400
<v Speaker 1>much that like it was my safe place after school.

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:10.719
<v Speaker 1>I would go straight to dance and just have fun

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 1>and enjoy and like live my best life. That during

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 1>the day, high school and and even junior high did

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:19.799
<v Speaker 1>not matter to me. And so now I look back

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:22.799
<v Speaker 1>at it, I'm like, yeah, it was a tough childhood.

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Everyone made fun of me, but I don't care, like

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 1>it made me who I am, and I really, you know,

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I can. I can move past that and just be

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:35.359
<v Speaker 1>thankful that I still have dance. And now look at

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:42.719
<v Speaker 1>you that you read he's gotten the big trophy I

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:47.319
<v Speaker 1>got Jesse. Now that's what is your favorite thing about

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Jesse as a person, and then your favorite thing about

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:53.839
<v Speaker 1>Jesse as a dancer. Okay, one of the funniest things

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:57.720
<v Speaker 1>about Jesse is when like she's being sarcastic and over excited,

0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>it's so funny, like it's just that that that, And

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 1>then when we're having fun in rehearsals, it's real, you know,

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 1>it's not just like, oh, we're gonna be excited to

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 1>do the dance, like will. She makes the best references.

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:15.279
<v Speaker 1>I think you like love movies. She's a movie buff,

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 1>and she makes really accurate references. Give us one, well

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:24.319
<v Speaker 1>today was the best one of ms congeniality. And he's

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 1>telling me to walk more graceful and glide, and I

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:29.840
<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm glad here, like when she's trying to

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:35.320
<v Speaker 1>feel why walk like her and I'm blind and blind

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 1>this is like, it's it's just I love references like that.

0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:41.799
<v Speaker 1>I love movies, you know, so it's it's really fun.

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:45.359
<v Speaker 1>And she makes the perfect reference. And then what's one

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:48.640
<v Speaker 1>thing that you um like, you, what's one thing that

0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you're like you wish that she would um? Oh, this

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:55.800
<v Speaker 1>is the potst, none of the potst. I just like,

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 1>what's one thing where you're just like like, I wish

0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:00.759
<v Speaker 1>she could, you know, do do this or listen to

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 1>me on this? I got you ready. This is the

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 1>best one. I wish she believed in herself more in

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 1>dancing because she gets it and I can see her

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:12.359
<v Speaker 1>trying so hard and a lot of the time, I'm

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:14.799
<v Speaker 1>sure you're familiar with it is like as soon as

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 1>you let go, it clicks that can you like believe

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:20.800
<v Speaker 1>in yourself and it just it happens, It clicks, and

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:23.360
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh my god, that Why was I struggling

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:25.040
<v Speaker 1>so hard with that when all I had to do

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:28.319
<v Speaker 1>is less and so like to me is like if

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:31.320
<v Speaker 1>she can believe in herself as soon as I believe

0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:34.400
<v Speaker 1>in her, then it's like, okay, we're easy. And honestly,

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:37.200
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not just her, it's more of me because

0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:40.839
<v Speaker 1>I have to change. I've been learning, especially with Jesse,

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:43.799
<v Speaker 1>how to change the way I teach. I overheard her saying,

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:48.280
<v Speaker 1>but you know, like Jesse is somebody that really reacts

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 1>really well to positive reinforcement. And I've been doing that

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.560
<v Speaker 1>and I've been really adjusting to it. And I feel

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:57.480
<v Speaker 1>like this last like the last half of last week

0:39:57.560 --> 0:40:00.280
<v Speaker 1>and this week has just been so much more wife

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:04.960
<v Speaker 1>and like almost easy because in a good environment, because

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm already going to beat yourself myself. I'm already going

0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 1>to do that, Like you don't have to worry about that.

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I got that covered, So I'm already there. So if

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:16.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm part of myself and he's double it's like double

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:18.800
<v Speaker 1>heart on myself. I need to have him lift me

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:21.320
<v Speaker 1>because I'm already inside just going like you can't do this,

0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:22.840
<v Speaker 1>you can't do this. I need him to be like

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 1>you can do this, and me go okay, right, you know,

0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I see her right away and I'm like, oh, she's

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:33.800
<v Speaker 1>really like understanding it and she's not allowing herself to

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 1>do it yet. And then when she does, it's like

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:39.440
<v Speaker 1>we finished, Like that was that was fun. That was great,

0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:41.560
<v Speaker 1>and so like that to me is like I want

0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 1>to be better at facilitating that. For just it's almost

0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:47.440
<v Speaker 1>like you gotta let go believe and let god you know,

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 1>just for sure. Who's who's y'all's biggest competition? Do you think? Oh? Everyone? Everyone?

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:00.239
<v Speaker 1>You could just name one? Who do you think? Because

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:04.000
<v Speaker 1>who's who thinks the one? Honestly, I seriously can't tell you.

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:07.759
<v Speaker 1>You could probably say one, Jane, I I feel like,

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:10.239
<v Speaker 1>going into it, you may think there's one or two.

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:13.360
<v Speaker 1>But when you're standing on that balcony and you're watching everyone,

0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:18.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean you're like, oh that that person. Like every

0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:21.720
<v Speaker 1>you can see everyone getting to the finals this season.

0:41:21.800 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's always like that on every

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 1>season of this show, but you even said yourself, like

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:29.880
<v Speaker 1>everyone's really good, Like there's at least half of the

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:32.440
<v Speaker 1>people in this caste. You're like, oh my god, there's

0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:35.239
<v Speaker 1>there's the beauty about the show is that it is

0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:38.800
<v Speaker 1>about growing and learning. But there are amazing dancers already,

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:41.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, Like it's this is like one of the

0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:44.439
<v Speaker 1>first seasons where you look at like more than half

0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 1>the casting like on any other season, this person is

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:49.840
<v Speaker 1>a winner actually a good way to put it. And

0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 1>so I don't know who's gonna win this season. I

0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:54.880
<v Speaker 1>mean well, and not to be rude, but like Bobby

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Bones did win. So it's like sometimes it's not the

0:41:56.880 --> 0:41:58.920
<v Speaker 1>best answer that wins, it's the best story and it's

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 1>the best you know, authenticity and the I actually went

0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 1>back and rewatched some of his season and he was

0:42:04.960 --> 0:42:09.440
<v Speaker 1>entertaining and he cared and he fun And I think

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 1>that's what it is. It's not just who's the best dancer,

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 1>but who's really who's doing this for a bit, is

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:18.600
<v Speaker 1>going to really let go and who's growing and really

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:23.120
<v Speaker 1>committing to the show. Um, any tips or any like

0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:26.440
<v Speaker 1>a little tidbits you can give for for tomorrow because

0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:29.880
<v Speaker 1>this is airing Sunday, So anything you can give us

0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:35.799
<v Speaker 1>as a little tease yess is committing. I am all

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:45.840
<v Speaker 1>in from hit. I'm going to good Oh my gosh,

0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:48.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited. Well, you guys have to watch, Um

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Jesse and Alan vote for them on Disney Plus. Um

0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 1>you can watch it live there and you guys were rooting.

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:59.840
<v Speaker 1>We're voting, we're loving and um Jesse, let me know

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 1>which Monday I can come out and see any any

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:09.320
<v Speaker 1>of them came this Monday, come tomorrow. Okay, let me

0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:11.880
<v Speaker 1>say that I can call Mike and we'll text. We'll

0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:14.759
<v Speaker 1>see which one. Okay, okay, Um, I love you guys

0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:21.279
<v Speaker 1>so much, thanks for coming on by. Wait do you

0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 1>want to go to l A. Where's tomorrow? Tomorrow? My

0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:33.680
<v Speaker 1>life doesn't work well now that Colvin's not getting a divorce.

0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, Nick can watch the kids. We can

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Speaker 1>do There's a thing. I actually saw you more when

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:43.759
<v Speaker 1>you were married. That's like, that's the thing. I'm like

0:43:44.160 --> 0:43:46.160
<v Speaker 1>you Bee, like, oh, it's still gonna work for Jenna's

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 1>agenda with her being singles like no, no, no, it

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:49.839
<v Speaker 1>actually works better when they were married, right, I got

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 1>to see her more. I know that your text was

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:53.160
<v Speaker 1>like I can't it's not my kid for a weekend,

0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I can't, And I was like, my kids are so

0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 1>your kids are, Um, well No, But seriously, I love Jessine.

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I love the way that she I'm gonna start, I'm

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:07.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna start praying for y'all, for the main people. No, seriously,

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:10.840
<v Speaker 1>because about the perspective. That's not going to change. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's change our perspective. No, I know. Is I got

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<v Speaker 1>a dozen rosists, That's all I care about. Is there

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<v Speaker 1>anything you want to tell us? Nope? Is there a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand things you want to tell us? Goodbye?