Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio Podcast. Well,
Speaker 1: we have a lot to discuss. Um the band is
Speaker 1: back together. There was a reason why Katherine was not
Speaker 1: on the last few episodes. It was because she's in love.
Speaker 1: She doesn't get who knows it and she needed some
Speaker 1: time to go through that. Uh, Katherine, why don't you
Speaker 1: just take the floor, Katherine? Is it someone we know? Yeah,
Speaker 1: tell us you're in love and we want to know
Speaker 1: who it is. Give us a clue. Let's let's play
Speaker 1: the like, let's play the guessing game. Who is Cat
Speaker 1: in love with? Is it someone you met on Hinge?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not? Also Hinge lasted all of Like, does he
Speaker 1: have any kids? He does? Oh? Does he have one kid? Nope?
Speaker 1: Two kids? Does he have three? Yes? Yes? Three? Does
Speaker 1: he want more kids? Absolutely not. Is that part of
Speaker 1: the reason that you're in love with him? It's actually scheduled?
Speaker 1: Oh really? Oh yeah? Wow? Okay, so there's a great
Speaker 1: amount of intimacy in your relationship. Well we have to
Speaker 1: worry about snipping. Well, that's great that we've become intimate
Speaker 1: with who y'all are so funny? Okay, So Nick and
Speaker 1: I are not getting divorced. Some people here have called it.
Speaker 1: You know. Also, how many times did I say are
Speaker 1: you sure? Are you sure? Because everyone thinks that I'm
Speaker 1: like the reason, like the chat's blowing up, wow yeah um,
Speaker 1: because it's like literally everyone was like she just wanted
Speaker 1: to be single, Janna Janna as the reason because she
Speaker 1: just likes miserable people, like she wants to be miserable
Speaker 1: without people. And I'm like, y'all, I'm like, after every
Speaker 1: like after the more work you've done, I'm like, Kavin,
Speaker 1: are you sure? Are you sure you don't want to
Speaker 1: be back together with Nick? Like? And the funny thing
Speaker 1: about it is like I really kept towards the end
Speaker 1: a lot of that to myself, a lot of it,
Speaker 1: like we didn't even talk about it that much, like
Speaker 1: right in the beginning though I did though for sure,
Speaker 1: I'm saying before like making the decision, when people are
Speaker 1: like you like convinced me or whatever, it's like we
Speaker 1: didn't even really divorced about it. Yeah, I know. That's
Speaker 1: why I was like, well, I remember when you came
Speaker 1: over and I was like what, yeah, Like, I mean
Speaker 1: through the years, I wish and discussed, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: just didn't really talk to anybody about it. It was
Speaker 1: like me and my therapist, you know, so whatever to
Speaker 1: those people. But those people call people miserable as they
Speaker 1: sit behind their keyboards and have opinions about everybody as
Speaker 1: his life. Yeah, but anyway to shame. So anyway. Yeah, So, um,
Speaker 1: long story short, Um, about a month and a half ago, month,
Speaker 1: a little over a month ago. UM, we just kind
Speaker 1: of started working on things. You know, long story short.
Speaker 1: I won't go into all the details, but um, obviously
Speaker 1: everyone knows a lot of our issues, you know, stemmed
Speaker 1: around me and my lack of vulnerability, vulnerability and intimacy,
Speaker 1: and that's just something I knew I had to work on. Um.
Speaker 1: And as I was starting to kind of work on
Speaker 1: myself and a lot of prayer, praying about it a lot,
Speaker 1: a lot, UM, I just kind of kept going back
Speaker 1: to him like he was my safe place, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I have to start here. You know,
Speaker 1: there's things I need to say to him. Even if
Speaker 1: you were to not get back to kind yeah, there
Speaker 1: was not. At first. That wasn't the goal. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: goal was just to open up, tell him how I felt.
Speaker 1: In the beginning, it was like we're getting divorced, after
Speaker 1: fifteen years, and I need to tell him. I think
Speaker 1: he's a great dad. I think that he did was
Speaker 1: a great husband, you know those things. But as it
Speaker 1: kind of went on and I was able to like
Speaker 1: dig into my emotions, it's like I realized like that
Speaker 1: I didn't want to lose him, you know, that he
Speaker 1: was my best friend. I just wasn't a too open
Speaker 1: up and I needed to work on that. So I
Speaker 1: started to work on that. But it just happened to
Speaker 1: be that I wanted to work on it with him,
Speaker 1: you know, And so it just kind of overtime. So
Speaker 1: I mean we were sneaking around because we don't want
Speaker 1: we didn't tell our kids. So it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: he had a rental and I had my house. Like
Speaker 1: we were literally like sneaking, Like he got a rental car.
Speaker 1: I was like chool. I felt like high school, but
Speaker 1: I never even did that and called a sack. I
Speaker 1: didn't either. I just said that I didn't do that
Speaker 1: in high school. Either. Had fun at thirty eight, but
Speaker 1: like we went on, I planned like a little vacation
Speaker 1: at the beginning, or just like a night out and
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, do we even get to ride together?
Speaker 1: Like where do I put my car? And we were
Speaker 1: going to meet at this one place, but like the
Speaker 1: whole town was there, so it's like we can't go there.
Speaker 1: We don't do town stuff. So we went to a
Speaker 1: gas station outside of town, parked my car, met and drove.
Speaker 1: You know, So but what have fun? Like so fun? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and falling in love all her again. Yeah, when I
Speaker 1: think to like, I remember one of the times when
Speaker 1: it came over as a friend. My god, I don't
Speaker 1: know that, but like I remember him being like Catherine
Speaker 1: was vulnerably vulnerable with me for the first time, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, Nick, I'm like, well maybe y'all can you
Speaker 1: know And he's like no, He's like I don't think.
Speaker 1: He was like I don't know, but I'm like, like
Speaker 1: you were opening up, like he was like welcoming the
Speaker 1: opening up, and I'm just like, I don't know. There's
Speaker 1: always a piece of me that actually it was just
Speaker 1: like that's why I kept saying, like I'm sure there's
Speaker 1: nothing there, like you don't mean to try because it's
Speaker 1: like he's because it's like you kept saying that he's
Speaker 1: my best friend, and I'm like, then what is the problem, right? So, yeah,
Speaker 1: you just need to. I mean like, yeah, well yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think it was the intendency block, right, Like
Speaker 1: I'll never forget you saying that to me. And You're like,
Speaker 1: well do you think you could? And I was like nope,
Speaker 1: and I just shut down. I just put my wall back.
Speaker 1: I remember. I remember literally like I can't even talk
Speaker 1: about it. Um yeah, we're like as not as no.
Speaker 1: I was like, I love it. Speak time I talked
Speaker 1: about it, I would absolutely tear up. But I'm learning now.
Speaker 1: I guess it's just I know it. I'm very aware
Speaker 1: of it when I do it again. I remember in
Speaker 1: the car, just like shut it down, you know. And
Speaker 1: so that's what I always did in our marriage, and
Speaker 1: so I mean, honestly, I know it sounds very cliche,
Speaker 1: but like I literally just get up every morning and
Speaker 1: I say the same prayer every morning, and it's just
Speaker 1: like it's a day by day thing for me. Just
Speaker 1: to keep my heart heart open is the biggest thing.
Speaker 1: And to just keep you know, pursuing it and showing up.
Speaker 1: I mean I think that that's always There were always
Speaker 1: things that I knew I should do, that would pop
Speaker 1: into my head that I should say all those things
Speaker 1: and I just didn't do it. You know, we were
Speaker 1: just so far just like in our corners that I
Speaker 1: didn't do it and he didn't. You know, he gave
Speaker 1: up to It's like we both kind of gave up. Um,
Speaker 1: so anyway, so yeah, so now it's just like, so,
Speaker 1: what does the road look like now? You know, we
Speaker 1: did tell the kids, so the kids are aware. Um,
Speaker 1: they were definitely starting to pick up on it. You
Speaker 1: know when we told them. My thirteen year old was
Speaker 1: like I knew it, you know. So I mean like
Speaker 1: so yeah, um, and what a inspiring thing for them
Speaker 1: to witness to. Yeah, that's what I'm like. That was like,
Speaker 1: I can't I was how happy were they? I can't
Speaker 1: imagine liked story the video. I have a video and
Speaker 1: an the best because I mean she cried throughout the day.
Speaker 1: I mean it was the sweetest thing. And she's constantly
Speaker 1: like that makes me want to cry. She yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean she's constantly even now she's like, hey go his dad,
Speaker 1: Hey go hold his hand, hey go, Like she just
Speaker 1: so badly wanted to see affection, you know. Um. It's
Speaker 1: such good groundwork for them that before you go to
Speaker 1: the next thing, I just want to say something I
Speaker 1: just wrote downside and forget it. I when I was
Speaker 1: looking on Instagram, I was like, I noticed, by the way, However,
Speaker 1: fifteen years that i've known you and Nick together, I've
Speaker 1: never seen your hand on his shoulder, arm and leg.
Speaker 1: And I was like, who crap. I was like Cat
Speaker 1: put her hand on his shoulder at the football game
Speaker 1: physical I was like, go, girl, go. I ran into
Speaker 1: them at a birthday party on Sunday and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: look who it is on the love seat, literally like
Speaker 1: real side touching close. I mean I usually used to
Speaker 1: make my skin crawl. That sounds terrible, but that's what
Speaker 1: Mike was. He'd be like, every time you touched me,
Speaker 1: my skin crawls. And I'm like, oh, it feels really
Speaker 1: good for you to say that. It sounds terrible, but
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to explain it, truly, it's hard to explain.
Speaker 1: So is the road trying to figure out where the
Speaker 1: intimacy block comes or like what is like we've hit
Speaker 1: I think we've destroyed the intimacy block from my understand Honestly,
Speaker 1: I think I was just able to. It started with
Speaker 1: just a very vulnerable conversation and it was hard and
Speaker 1: it was not easy to have that conversation. But once
Speaker 1: I was able to, and I literally broke down. I'll
Speaker 1: just be honest, like complete breakdown. At this point, I
Speaker 1: have nothing thing to lose kind of thing, you know,
Speaker 1: then it was just easier. Um. You know, of course,
Speaker 1: I you know, I think that's always going to be
Speaker 1: a part of me, and I think I'm always going
Speaker 1: to have to constantly work at it. Um. And he's
Speaker 1: aware of that, and we have a lot of conversation
Speaker 1: about it. But I'm just you know, like sometimes I
Speaker 1: don't even notice it when I'm touching him. Now sometimes
Speaker 1: I have to tell myself to do it. It's kind
Speaker 1: of a mix, and I think that's okay to like
Speaker 1: I remember, like with Mike, it's like he's like I
Speaker 1: have to physically like touch her leg. And as hard
Speaker 1: as it is for like me to like be like, well,
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you want to, It's like I know that
Speaker 1: he's like trying, and I think that's all Nick probably
Speaker 1: wants to. It's just like the effort put in where
Speaker 1: like the effort was lost, you know, well it becomes
Speaker 1: just like a habit over eventually, yeah, where you're just
Speaker 1: become business partners essentially a room exactly, and that's the
Speaker 1: tricky part because the undoing of that is so frustrating
Speaker 1: and long and hope lost. Yeah, and I think, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting because, you know, I definitely choosing to
Speaker 1: not regret the road that we took to get there. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm definitely seeing as it's all was blessed and it
Speaker 1: needed to happen that way. I think I had to
Speaker 1: get out of the situation and be broken to be
Speaker 1: able to like fix you know, what was broken essentially. Um,
Speaker 1: so I don't even regret that. You know. I was
Speaker 1: a little worried with the kids, like do I need
Speaker 1: to say I'm sorry that we put you through this?
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah. But it's like they're just happy,
Speaker 1: you know. And then they also saw us happy together,
Speaker 1: so it was you know, even so I think it's
Speaker 1: beautiful because they see all working like that's like what
Speaker 1: they should see is like you guys working towards it.
Speaker 1: Because again, it's not good for them just to see
Speaker 1: happy parents never fighting, right, It's not good just to
Speaker 1: see them fighting all the time. So it's like to
Speaker 1: show the like work and the commitment like, I think
Speaker 1: that's like what they should see now. If it was
Speaker 1: we're gonna get divorced again and three and then again
Speaker 1: and back and forth like that back and forth would
Speaker 1: be a lot on them. But like, you know, and
Speaker 1: that's why we waited, you know, we wanted you know,
Speaker 1: because that first week or so, it was very every
Speaker 1: conversation was if we do this, if we do this,
Speaker 1: and there was just like a point where it just
Speaker 1: kind of flipped. You know, I can't even explain it,
Speaker 1: but it just kind of flipped. It's like, we're doing this,
Speaker 1: you know, but we have to protect the kids. But
Speaker 1: because you know, at the end of the day, my
Speaker 1: whole thing was breaking the cycle because my parents did
Speaker 1: not show affection. They had the same issues. I just
Speaker 1: had to make a decision on which way I was
Speaker 1: going to break the cycle. And it was either we
Speaker 1: get out of this and then we go get other
Speaker 1: relationships and they're going to have to be healthy to
Speaker 1: show them. And then once I was out of it,
Speaker 1: I was like, I have to fix this no matter what,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'd rather do it with him and
Speaker 1: then go back and show him them what a healthy
Speaker 1: relationship should look like. So I mean, really big, giant,
Speaker 1: inspiring work. And I love personally that it happened the
Speaker 1: way it did for any like validation you may need
Speaker 1: from what a kid sees. I don't for some reason
Speaker 1: that that like the separation and you two learning yourselves
Speaker 1: enough and who's you are and then to come back
Speaker 1: to each other like that really is. That's like, that's
Speaker 1: the redemption story. That's huge. And let me say to y'all,
Speaker 1: I didn't even know it, but I found out later
Speaker 1: that um my ten year old Emmy and another person
Speaker 1: in our not immediate family, but in our family had
Speaker 1: been praying together for us to get back together like often,
Speaker 1: and so it's such a cool thing to be to
Speaker 1: show her like, look like your prayers were answered, you
Speaker 1: talked to God, you asked a very specific thing, and
Speaker 1: it happened, and may not have happened, you know, or
Speaker 1: if it didn't happen, like, but it was just a
Speaker 1: good time. It's a good thing to really show her.
Speaker 1: And I think it's been like really great for her
Speaker 1: because she's like, wow, like it really worked, you know.
Speaker 1: And I think it's like a good like sometimes you
Speaker 1: don't know what you have, but also like until you
Speaker 1: lose it. You know. It's like I think not that
Speaker 1: you ever like took Nick for grien or something like that,
Speaker 1: but like it's like you realize, like, well he was
Speaker 1: my best friend and he was like sometimes you don't
Speaker 1: realize those things until like you lose it, like and
Speaker 1: then again, like you're saying, like, no matter what, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to work on yourself, whether it's with Nick,
Speaker 1: whether it's with the guy from Hinge, like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like whoever it is. And I think
Speaker 1: it's like that's the same thing. Like you know, I
Speaker 1: think we can all attest to that, like things within
Speaker 1: your marriage, things with me dating. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: like I have to change some stuff where I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep picking the same I'm gonna keep doing the same thing.
Speaker 1: And it's like it's like we have we have to
Speaker 1: work on ourselves. It's not about the other persons about ourselves.
Speaker 1: And you find this shopping. But I'm not super affectionate,
Speaker 1: so you told me that, I know, And so I
Speaker 1: just don't want you to feel alone in that, like
Speaker 1: I have to sometimes, which I think would be unexpecting
Speaker 1: from people that would listen to me. So I'm not
Speaker 1: like I am with the kids excessively, like they're going
Speaker 1: to need a therapist for opposite reasons that I did.
Speaker 1: But like I'm not super affectionate with Preston enough either,
Speaker 1: and so I've had to work on that because I'm
Speaker 1: severely independent, and when I'm learning from Amy, our mutual therapist,
Speaker 1: is that my severe independence once was my survival tactic,
Speaker 1: but I don't need it anymore. And so I was
Speaker 1: going to ask you if that was but I didn't
Speaker 1: want to purchect if you will without a doubt that
Speaker 1: was me. But like I don't have to be Christen
Speaker 1: from Michigan all the time in that way like heart,
Speaker 1: you know, like I toughen up and I can take
Speaker 1: care of myself. But it's like, but I can also
Speaker 1: just be like, hey that hurt my feelings or hey
Speaker 1: I need this. And what's interesting is in a relationship
Speaker 1: sometimes somebody needs to know that they're needed. Very elementary.
Speaker 1: But for some reason I missed the memo that it
Speaker 1: served us when we needed it to serve us, and
Speaker 1: in our lifestyle, my lifestyle at home, it does serve
Speaker 1: me because he's gone so much that me being independent
Speaker 1: and handling life and you know, being mom and dad
Speaker 1: when I need to be a husband and wife when
Speaker 1: I need to be is like okay, but I'm also
Speaker 1: working on that well. Because independence, I've I've learned can
Speaker 1: be a positive and such a negative. It can be
Speaker 1: both and it's just learning arts, yeah for sure, but yeah,
Speaker 1: absolut there's so much about independence that keeps serving me.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of things I can just lay
Speaker 1: down and honestly, it was exhausting still using independence and
Speaker 1: pieces of that. You know what's like interesting too, like
Speaker 1: just like hearing that and reflecting on it. Is like
Speaker 1: when I when there's someone that likes me, I'm actually
Speaker 1: not as affectionate, but like I'm more affectionate to those
Speaker 1: that like I feel like I have to like oh
Speaker 1: like proving, like proving or like to like chase to
Speaker 1: to chase like those people I'm more affectionate with. And
Speaker 1: the guys that like I know that would want to
Speaker 1: be with me, it's like, oh no, like this because
Speaker 1: it feels foreign, foreign to have the guys actually like
Speaker 1: showing me affection Like no joke. Flowers showed up in
Speaker 1: my house and I was like, who are these from?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like this must be before
Speaker 1: my grandpa. Like that guy doesn't send flowers, you know,
Speaker 1: so good guys do send flower But it's like I
Speaker 1: see that I'm just saying like that. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh. I was like, I'm actually not as
Speaker 1: touchy with people that like, because it's like it's scary
Speaker 1: in like foreign. Yeah. I think the fear of rejection.
Speaker 1: If I went back through all my relationships and saw
Speaker 1: I really dated some winners, um, but there was so
Speaker 1: many like hurtful comments that I think my vulnerability got
Speaker 1: shut out a little bit. And I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I'll just guard myself then, because clearly you guys can't
Speaker 1: take care of me. And then I made it a
Speaker 1: gender wide pandemic in my brain. So then I was like,
Speaker 1: none of them can be trusted. And then God gave me.
Speaker 1: God gave me legend, my son, and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: now here's a turn of events on plot twist, because
Speaker 1: I'm going to have to learn how to love this
Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear the messages you get about
Speaker 1: me saying that, but like, I'm gonna have to learn
Speaker 1: to love this gender so much more differently and fullhearted. No,
Speaker 1: I mean they're not all lumped together anymore. I had
Speaker 1: to start picking them apart. You know, well I meant,
Speaker 1: I mean truly, I mean, and again, I don't want
Speaker 1: you to think like nothing is rainbows and butterflies, Like
Speaker 1: you're going to have hard times in your marriage. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have hard times, like you're gonna have great times.
Speaker 1: You're gonna amazing times. And it's like no matter what,
Speaker 1: like we all go through struggles and you guys, you know,
Speaker 1: worked it out and that's amazing, like truly, like that's
Speaker 1: like we don't get to pick how how it's broken
Speaker 1: apart sometimes to be healed. Yeah, I just think that's great.
Speaker 1: And even when like in your healing and you're still
Speaker 1: like having to go like, oh this is like it's okay,
Speaker 1: Like you're not like it's not going to be like
Speaker 1: we have the best marriage ever. It's okay. You still
Speaker 1: have like moments of like struggle and hard times. And
Speaker 1: I think that's a lot of people why people piece
Speaker 1: out so fast is because it's like, you know, you
Speaker 1: just and it's like because I mean, frick, as much
Speaker 1: as I would have loved to have pieced out, like
Speaker 1: the first time I heard about Mike cheating and like
Speaker 1: at the same time, it's like did the work to try?
Speaker 1: And it's like sometimes like you try and you try
Speaker 1: and you try, and it's like then you realize, like, okay,
Speaker 1: it's not working, and it's like for y'all, it's like
Speaker 1: you you guys chose to like you're trying together, and
Speaker 1: like that's beautiful no matter what, like and you can
Speaker 1: know regardless, like how that's a thing, like you know
Speaker 1: that you try because I think and this is what
Speaker 1: I had said to you, And I was like, I
Speaker 1: I said, I think bee this, I said this so
Speaker 1: nick to and so but I I was always fearful
Speaker 1: that you were going to regret leaving because you didn't
Speaker 1: try wholeheartedly. And I don't please, don't take that like no,
Speaker 1: it's the first thing I said. When I sat down
Speaker 1: with him, I started bawling and I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't feel like I tried. It was like there was
Speaker 1: there was two hard looking. I needed to make a
Speaker 1: decision because I'm a person that can't sit in that
Speaker 1: gray and I'm just like, I have to make a decision.
Speaker 1: This is hard and this is hard. Which hard am
Speaker 1: I going to choose? And I just chose that one
Speaker 1: and then realized, wait a minute, I still have to
Speaker 1: do the other hard for myself, you know. So yeah, no,
Speaker 1: you're right. That's literally the first thing I said. And
Speaker 1: I think even in the trying, like Janna is saying,
Speaker 1: when you try, even in the in the very least,
Speaker 1: you're still going to meet yourself somewhere you've never met
Speaker 1: yourself before. So even if it doesn't work relationship wise,
Speaker 1: you're still gaining momentum on yourself in your own coming
Speaker 1: back to yourself and all of it anyway, and now
Speaker 1: you'll know like you did everything, you tried everything, and
Speaker 1: you know, and don't feel like a failure if it's
Speaker 1: you know, who knows, like we just don't know, Like
Speaker 1: it's like as long as like that's why I was
Speaker 1: so not easy for me to because it as hard
Speaker 1: as hell to walk away. But I was also like,
Speaker 1: I try everything, and I can rest in my head
Speaker 1: like I can you know, you left nothing on the field.
Speaker 1: But but if I would have left six years ago,
Speaker 1: I would have been like, I wonder if we could
Speaker 1: have made it work, like I really, But then there's
Speaker 1: also like some you know, so as I'm just saying, like, no,
Speaker 1: matter what, Like, I'm proud of you for trying. Thank you,
Speaker 1: And honestly I understand your point of view more now
Speaker 1: because I think in the very beginning, we're like, why
Speaker 1: aren't you leaving? I'm like, but now I see that
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, that regret and not that I necessarily
Speaker 1: was sitting in this place of regret, but you might have. Doubly,
Speaker 1: I think it would have caught up to you. Certainty
Speaker 1: turns in the regret. I think if you don't get
Speaker 1: certain about it, whatever way, you can understand why you
Speaker 1: had to be able to say I tried everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I totally understand that now. I honestly think scar
Speaker 1: tissue in a relationship is hot. I think it's beautiful
Speaker 1: and I think like a favorite, like I wish my
Speaker 1: X and I like could have been the like that
Speaker 1: could have been our redemption story story. But it's beautiful
Speaker 1: scar tissue. We do like stunning scar tissue, a lot
Speaker 1: of it, But you really do. I mean, but you
Speaker 1: fought the good fight, no pun intended, but like, I
Speaker 1: don't forget to buy that book because it still matters.
Speaker 1: And my part was don't read the trust because that
Speaker 1: was all a lie. But it's to tell the truth.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what all of that was a lie? Anyways,
Speaker 1: it was opposite day. I just feel like, but like
Speaker 1: you really did, like your scar tissue matters, because Jason
Speaker 1: Jolie have a scar tissue to fall back on. They
Speaker 1: saw two people go for it as hard as hard
Speaker 1: as they could. They didn't see either. But anyways, moving on,
Speaker 1: we all have good therapists and great. I think that
Speaker 1: there's redemption stories for every marriage. Whether it stays that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, or gets back together, y'all will have
Speaker 1: a redemption story each of you. I'm excited. Thanks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's amazing. And I came out of came out of
Speaker 1: the bathroom and I was like baby cat Nick her
Speaker 1: fighting together, and He's like, halleluja. Knew it was gonna happen.
Speaker 1: It's so funny how many people said that. Yeah. It's
Speaker 1: also interesting like when you get divorced, how many people
Speaker 1: you here go like, oh I saw that comment, or man,
Speaker 1: I don't know how you guys made it work. And
Speaker 1: then like to hear people say that about getting guy together.
Speaker 1: People saw that coming together. Okay, well we are about
Speaker 1: to get Jesse James Decker on. She's killing it right
Speaker 1: now and dancing with the stars, so let's get her
Speaker 1: on Jesse. You're in the dance studio. Hey, girls, let
Speaker 1: me do full screen here. You look gor I know
Speaker 1: what is happening. God, thanks, I'm exhausted. Um yeah, you've been.
Speaker 1: I mean obviously, because I feel like even when we
Speaker 1: ran into each other, I don't know, a month or
Speaker 1: so ago, You're like, I'm just all over the place,
Speaker 1: and then you started texting me, You're like what about
Speaker 1: Like I was like, who is your hair person? Was
Speaker 1: dancing the stars? And like what she questions? And I
Speaker 1: was like, what's going on? Tell me everything? Um, but
Speaker 1: were you hesitant to do the show? So the only
Speaker 1: reason why I was hesitant would just be like the
Speaker 1: time commitment, because you know we're I mean, you all
Speaker 1: know we're mothers and so like you've got kids, and
Speaker 1: that's the first thing that pops to my mind, is like,
Speaker 1: how the heck am I supposed to balance this? Because
Speaker 1: our kids conversed and so I think I needed to
Speaker 1: understand the schedule. And as soon as I was told
Speaker 1: I was going to be able to practice and rehearse
Speaker 1: in Nashville, that was a game changer for me because
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's always been like that, right, Um,
Speaker 1: you know you you definitely could. I mean I remember
Speaker 1: um when I did. I did most of mine um
Speaker 1: in l A. But the problem is I was touring
Speaker 1: to just like you know, you're doing shows you and
Speaker 1: I think you know, we, Katherine, you know, had to
Speaker 1: cancel a bunch of shows because towards the end of it,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't keep doing shows and rehearsal and
Speaker 1: be a mom. I'm like, I'm like, I don't even
Speaker 1: like and now I feel like I almost have a
Speaker 1: shot at it. So I'm like, so we started to
Speaker 1: cancel shows because it just got just um emotional, I
Speaker 1: mean emotionally but like physically, I mean all of it
Speaker 1: just like a lot. And then traveling you throw a
Speaker 1: flying and I don't know about y'all, but like I
Speaker 1: I know people that can get on planes and then
Speaker 1: get right back to business. It sucks the life out
Speaker 1: of me flying. It just drains me. And so you
Speaker 1: throw that in there and it's like but yeah, So
Speaker 1: as soon as I was asked to do what, I
Speaker 1: was like, I need to figure out what it is
Speaker 1: that I need to keep and what I can move
Speaker 1: and who will be cool with me moving some of
Speaker 1: these things around and some of these shows, because it
Speaker 1: is You're right, like, it's hard to do everything and
Speaker 1: juggle everything at once. Where do you think emotionally you
Speaker 1: are going into week three? I feel like I am
Speaker 1: more positive this week. Last week I was a little like,
Speaker 1: oh man, like, I don't I don't know how week like,
Speaker 1: I felt like week one and the first dance was
Speaker 1: so great, and then you know, the scores didn't totally
Speaker 1: reflect that, so I was like, dang, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not a dancer, so I don't know
Speaker 1: what's good and what's not good. So for me, I
Speaker 1: thought it was good, but I guess it wasn't. I
Speaker 1: don't know. And then week two I went into it
Speaker 1: more serious and just not as confident because I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: like I better straighten my legs, I better do all
Speaker 1: these things. Now, going into a week three, I'm feeling
Speaker 1: really positive. I think about it. Everything that you've said,
Speaker 1: Jannah has been that. I refer to your little Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Stars calendar that you've given me, and you
Speaker 1: so because I literally said he I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: you're going to go through a wave of motions. Week one,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun, but then you're not gonnat the scores.
Speaker 1: Then you're gonna be like depressed, and like week four
Speaker 1: you're like you're gonna want to quit. And then like
Speaker 1: week said so, you get your best score ever, and
Speaker 1: then it's like so much fun. And it's like because
Speaker 1: they put you and then like that's that's the whole
Speaker 1: point too, like they're putting. They're not gonna give you
Speaker 1: like all eight or all nines. And and then it's
Speaker 1: also hard to when you see these people that are
Speaker 1: really good or the head dance before and you're like,
Speaker 1: well that's not fair, like I've never danced a day
Speaker 1: in my life. And but it's like but then they're
Speaker 1: going to give them low score. Like you just watch
Speaker 1: like it's it's all going to start like to turn,
Speaker 1: because then then they're going to be harder on you,
Speaker 1: harder on them, and then they'll be better on you.
Speaker 1: And it's like which week do you fight with your partner?
Speaker 1: I think me it's just like anyone that you're forming
Speaker 1: a partnership with or um a friendship, anything, there's there's
Speaker 1: always going to be those getting to know each other
Speaker 1: kinks speaking of my party, keeping to know each other
Speaker 1: things that you work through and it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: and I feel like we've done that really well. You know,
Speaker 1: last week we really got to know each other on
Speaker 1: it on even more so, and I just feel like
Speaker 1: we really are understanding one another, and I just think
Speaker 1: it makes for an even better partnership. Where do you
Speaker 1: think that you guys uh kind of bad? You know,
Speaker 1: um butt heads a little bit when it comes to training.
Speaker 1: He's just very passionate and I love that and I
Speaker 1: understand passion. I come from a really passionate family. I
Speaker 1: think the only time is like I just so it
Speaker 1: takes me a little longer to grasp certain things. So
Speaker 1: all I asked, where just a little grace period to
Speaker 1: like understand what I'm doing. Um, but I really think
Speaker 1: that we're working through those things. And it's like I
Speaker 1: have a pep in my step these last couple of
Speaker 1: days because I really feel like we're finding our way together. Um,
Speaker 1: who is your best friend on the show like dancing
Speaker 1: partner wise? Like that's that's on the show, Celeberty. I
Speaker 1: don't know yet. There's certain people you see more because
Speaker 1: I guess you're kind of in like a pod system. Um,
Speaker 1: and so I feel like there's certain people that you
Speaker 1: see consistently because they're dancing the same time of rehearsing
Speaker 1: the same time you. So I think I see Charlie
Speaker 1: and she Angela more than anyone, and so we I
Speaker 1: feel like I always chatted up and catch up with
Speaker 1: Mark and Charlie probably more than anyone because we seem
Speaker 1: to practice and rehearse the same time. And she's just
Speaker 1: so I love that, you know, she's and she's amazing too.
Speaker 1: I'm like so many people like incredible. When I watched
Speaker 1: the show, I was like, oh, man, like I would like,
Speaker 1: there's so many good dancers too on the show. Everyone seriously,
Speaker 1: like half of the squad is so incredible. I'm sitting
Speaker 1: there like with my mouth on the ground, being like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, they're so good. But they're like they
Speaker 1: look professional, like from a thirty thou feet perspective. To me,
Speaker 1: you fit there like it was but I mean that
Speaker 1: like truly though, Like it wasn't like one of those
Speaker 1: I was like, oh okay, you know, like because I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: if they tried to cast me with Dancing the Stars.
Speaker 1: You and you guys would feel really good about yourself.
Speaker 1: But it's like it just feels to me like a
Speaker 1: natural fit. So I feel like it's good that you
Speaker 1: feel positive this week because you should be because you
Speaker 1: you're meant to be there, and you should be there.
Speaker 1: You're a little booty shaker j j D. Let's not pretend. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you. I man, it's funny because you feel like
Speaker 1: you're a good dancer. Like growing up, there's I've always
Speaker 1: feel like I had rhythm, but you come into this
Speaker 1: and you were humbled immediately going. You might have natural rhythm,
Speaker 1: but like learning steps is a whole other level. Like Jenny,
Speaker 1: you made it look so easy and so effortless, Like
Speaker 1: I watched and I remember just thinking, like you you
Speaker 1: just made it look so easy, girl. I was the
Speaker 1: ice on your ribs. It was so hard. I mean that.
Speaker 1: And that's you know, when I said to you, I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that was a note. I was got
Speaker 1: to like, you know, stronger legs, stronger legs. I mean,
Speaker 1: Glad would just be like yelling at I mean like
Speaker 1: I am literally doing the best I can, like and
Speaker 1: I don't remember, and I'm sorry and I told you, like,
Speaker 1: it wasn't until like the maybe the day before where
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, it's starting to click. You know. It's
Speaker 1: like it's hard. But I mean at the same time,
Speaker 1: like I told you to like just have fun because
Speaker 1: it goes by so fast, And that is something that
Speaker 1: I've really tried to think, even though we're only going
Speaker 1: into week three, I've really tried to step in and go, Okay,
Speaker 1: remember to have fun. Jass, Like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: walk away from this and be like I should have
Speaker 1: enjoyed it more because I was so stressed out. Like
Speaker 1: it is stressful, it is so hard. You're challenging yourself.
Speaker 1: You're putting yourself in a situation you never have before,
Speaker 1: so it is heavy on you. But I do think
Speaker 1: about what you say every time. I, like Jama said
Speaker 1: to remember to just like enjoy myself. So I'm really
Speaker 1: trying to do it because I wish I could go
Speaker 1: back like that's how and like and just truly have
Speaker 1: fun with it and like and know that like your
Speaker 1: kids will be okay. They're always going to be okay.
Speaker 1: They've got you know, an amazing you have an amazing husband,
Speaker 1: amazing they have amazing dad, and it's like they're one
Speaker 1: of the things that the two I love when I
Speaker 1: went to your show at the Rhyme and like your
Speaker 1: kids are watching you, like live your dreams and be
Speaker 1: this boss ass babe, and like you know and just
Speaker 1: like run companies, kittenish and all these other things that
Speaker 1: you do. It's like you are showing your children like
Speaker 1: how to be like this amazing independent, strong woman and
Speaker 1: loving and nurturing and like like you come home and
Speaker 1: like you're cooking them the soup, and I'm like, how
Speaker 1: does she find the time? Like I'm microwaving chicken nuggets,
Speaker 1: like I'm just laying the recipes already in a book
Speaker 1: because she did that too, and damn it, just how
Speaker 1: is she doing this? And it's like you are showing
Speaker 1: it like your kids like just like I know, like
Speaker 1: you probably miss them right now and you want to
Speaker 1: be with them, but it's like you like they they
Speaker 1: are watching you, and you are giving them more from
Speaker 1: doing what you're doing than, like, you know, than being
Speaker 1: in their face for sure. And I have to keep
Speaker 1: in mind. Another friend told my book, this is a
Speaker 1: blimped time this time and like it may feel so
Speaker 1: long now but it's not. And so I do keep
Speaker 1: trying to tell myself that because like you, Jana, I'm
Speaker 1: in it. I'm freaking in it and I want to work,
Speaker 1: but I'm like I'm in it with with my kids
Speaker 1: and it's it's the most important thing to me in
Speaker 1: the whole world. But I do have to remember, like
Speaker 1: it's okay to do something for myself and try something
Speaker 1: new and challenge myself in a different way, like this
Speaker 1: is for me, this is for me to go. I'm
Speaker 1: putting myself out of a comfort zone and exhausting something
Speaker 1: that I've never done and it's okay, and it's like
Speaker 1: something I'm gonna be proud of one day when i
Speaker 1: step away from all this going, I can't believe I
Speaker 1: did that and I'm proud of myself for that, and
Speaker 1: it's like good for you. Yeah, I feel like we
Speaker 1: all need to do that, like I'll step out of
Speaker 1: something like That's why, Like Jess, I know we can't
Speaker 1: say the show, but like we both got asked to
Speaker 1: do a show, and I'm like, man, I want to
Speaker 1: do this because it would be so out of my
Speaker 1: comfort zone because I always stay in like like even yes,
Speaker 1: I'm driving on the expressway now, but I'm staying on
Speaker 1: the right lane. I don't get into the middle lanes
Speaker 1: like I stay in my comfort zone, like lane over
Speaker 1: Cramer Beef. It's like, I'm like, girl, we got places
Speaker 1: to go, and I see her over their Grandma pace
Speaker 1: to settled into that right lane. I'm the speed stir
Speaker 1: all the way and the other lang J J D
Speaker 1: and I are like pedal to the metal raising show
Speaker 1: actually on the side streets, not on this pressway. I know,
Speaker 1: is there. I mean, Jesse, we were talking about this
Speaker 1: in an episode. I know. We we talk just tooth
Speaker 1: and nail, just you and me, like on text with this,
Speaker 1: but like how you deal with hate is like so
Speaker 1: beautifully done, because I feel like you do get picked
Speaker 1: apart a lot, and like every time, like you know,
Speaker 1: and I say, I'm like a girl, I went down
Speaker 1: read it and you're like, why do you do that
Speaker 1: to yourself? You know, And it's like and it's like
Speaker 1: I always kind of listen to the things that you
Speaker 1: say because you have such a fresh take on it,
Speaker 1: and also like but then you also get vulnerable, like
Speaker 1: you're like when people were someone says something about your
Speaker 1: weight and I remember being like what is wrong with people?
Speaker 1: Like why are they like it's like, it's so hurtful
Speaker 1: it is. I think what happens is when you are
Speaker 1: in the spotlight and you put yourself out there, it
Speaker 1: people feel like they have a right to say what
Speaker 1: they want to say, and they would never say these
Speaker 1: things to you on the street, but it does put
Speaker 1: you in a place where people feel like they can
Speaker 1: be comfortable enough to give their opinion even when it's
Speaker 1: not nice. And I do think sometimes whenever we are
Speaker 1: texting about that, it is hurtful. And yes I did
Speaker 1: put on weight this summer, thank you for noticing that
Speaker 1: and acknowledging acknowledging that random person like thank you. It's
Speaker 1: it's the things that you already feel hard on yourself
Speaker 1: about that someone else is pointing out, and it is hard.
Speaker 1: We're human beings, and I do feel like people need
Speaker 1: to stop and realize that. But like we've said, it's
Speaker 1: never gonna go away. It will always be there and
Speaker 1: so but our perspective can change, and it goes for
Speaker 1: people that are in the spotlight or someone who's not
Speaker 1: on the spotlight. When people are saying hurtful things, you
Speaker 1: have to remember like they can't be happy. They can't
Speaker 1: be waking up feeling the sunshine on their face and
Speaker 1: happy to go about their day if they want to
Speaker 1: hurt people all day long. Hurt people, hurt people. It's
Speaker 1: a real thing. And so I try to sit back
Speaker 1: and have grace for those people now. And what's another
Speaker 1: word that I think of sometimes I guess perspective of that.
Speaker 1: They're they've got to be sad. They've got to be
Speaker 1: hurting every day, and I want to have sympathy instead
Speaker 1: and stop getting angry. It used to make me angry
Speaker 1: and used to make me want to cry all the
Speaker 1: time and look in the mirror going maybe I do
Speaker 1: have a big nose, maybe I am overweight, maybe all
Speaker 1: you know, all the things they want to point out.
Speaker 1: But I now have sympathy for those people, and I
Speaker 1: swear to God I pray for them at night now
Speaker 1: because and it makes me have more peace with it
Speaker 1: going you know what they're hurting. I can't imagine what
Speaker 1: their lives must be like to want to wake up
Speaker 1: every day and get on their computer and point out
Speaker 1: all the things that I already know about myself. So
Speaker 1: you just got to take a bath and go I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pray for them, and I'm gonna keep going about
Speaker 1: my business because they're not going to affect me. And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be happy. That's a word. Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1: But yeah it's I'm like quiet, like already it's tear well,
Speaker 1: but you just have to like even now, like you
Speaker 1: can't give it any more attention. It's like we have
Speaker 1: to now, like because the more attention you give it,
Speaker 1: the more it makes it real. So it's like I
Speaker 1: feel it. Yeah, we move on from it. I know.
Speaker 1: I went out on this one day with someone and
Speaker 1: they were starting to talk, Oh that's the ugly version
Speaker 1: of this person and like, oh my god, hiss like
Speaker 1: his his this, that and the other. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: people are so freaking mean. I'm like why, Like I'm
Speaker 1: just like, as long as I want to, that's all
Speaker 1: that matters, okay, Like hey mean, like it's like, donnan,
Speaker 1: you don't need to be mean like and say like
Speaker 1: hurtful things about other people. And they're it's like there's
Speaker 1: just some people who were never mean gold in high
Speaker 1: school and it shows. That's all I'll say for sure.
Speaker 1: And it's just and I think about that and there
Speaker 1: are the mean girls. Alan and I were just talking
Speaker 1: about that he had trouble in school where people were
Speaker 1: mean to him, and they Alan came here, tom my friend.
Speaker 1: They they were like hurtful for him. Who wanted to
Speaker 1: be a look at this guy. I got the privilege
Speaker 1: of dancing with Alan a few times when when Glub
Speaker 1: was sick, and you were just like, you're just the sweetest.
Speaker 1: When I found out she had you, I was like,
Speaker 1: he's the best. You'll love him. He's so kind. But
Speaker 1: it's interesting to say you got bully because so my
Speaker 1: son's and dance, I'm I'm you know, he's he's in
Speaker 1: hip hop now, and I'm like, man, so like boys,
Speaker 1: like what do I tell him when the kids bullying
Speaker 1: actually won't get okay? Shoot? But like but because really,
Speaker 1: like what do they say to you? You know, like
Speaker 1: at the time, growing up, it just it was taboo
Speaker 1: for a boy to dance. There was no boy dancers.
Speaker 1: Dancing with the stars wasn't even really a thing until
Speaker 1: you know, two thousand five when it started. So like
Speaker 1: growing up, when I was Tann eleven years old, dancing
Speaker 1: wasn't famous, It wasn't it wasn't fun. It wasn't cool.
Speaker 1: No one did it, and I got made fun of
Speaker 1: a lot um In hindsight, you know, actually, at the time,
Speaker 1: even I didn't care because obviously I love dancing so
Speaker 1: much that like it was my safe place after school.
Speaker 1: I would go straight to dance and just have fun
Speaker 1: and enjoy and like live my best life. That during
Speaker 1: the day, high school and and even junior high did
Speaker 1: not matter to me. And so now I look back
Speaker 1: at it, I'm like, yeah, it was a tough childhood.
Speaker 1: Everyone made fun of me, but I don't care, like
Speaker 1: it made me who I am, and I really, you know,
Speaker 1: I can. I can move past that and just be
Speaker 1: thankful that I still have dance. And now look at
Speaker 1: you that you read he's gotten the big trophy I
Speaker 1: got Jesse. Now that's what is your favorite thing about
Speaker 1: Jesse as a person, and then your favorite thing about
Speaker 1: Jesse as a dancer. Okay, one of the funniest things
Speaker 1: about Jesse is when like she's being sarcastic and over excited,
Speaker 1: it's so funny, like it's just that that that, And
Speaker 1: then when we're having fun in rehearsals, it's real, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not just like, oh, we're gonna be excited to
Speaker 1: do the dance, like will. She makes the best references.
Speaker 1: I think you like love movies. She's a movie buff,
Speaker 1: and she makes really accurate references. Give us one, well
Speaker 1: today was the best one of ms congeniality. And he's
Speaker 1: telling me to walk more graceful and glide, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm glad here, like when she's trying to
Speaker 1: feel why walk like her and I'm blind and blind
Speaker 1: this is like, it's it's just I love references like that.
Speaker 1: I love movies, you know, so it's it's really fun.
Speaker 1: And she makes the perfect reference. And then what's one
Speaker 1: thing that you um like, you, what's one thing that
Speaker 1: you're like you wish that she would um? Oh, this
Speaker 1: is the potst, none of the potst. I just like,
Speaker 1: what's one thing where you're just like like, I wish
Speaker 1: she could, you know, do do this or listen to
Speaker 1: me on this? I got you ready. This is the
Speaker 1: best one. I wish she believed in herself more in
Speaker 1: dancing because she gets it and I can see her
Speaker 1: trying so hard and a lot of the time, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you're familiar with it is like as soon as
Speaker 1: you let go, it clicks that can you like believe
Speaker 1: in yourself and it just it happens, It clicks, and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, that Why was I struggling
Speaker 1: so hard with that when all I had to do
Speaker 1: is less and so like to me is like if
Speaker 1: she can believe in herself as soon as I believe
Speaker 1: in her, then it's like, okay, we're easy. And honestly,
Speaker 1: it's it's not just her, it's more of me because
Speaker 1: I have to change. I've been learning, especially with Jesse,
Speaker 1: how to change the way I teach. I overheard her saying,
Speaker 1: but you know, like Jesse is somebody that really reacts
Speaker 1: really well to positive reinforcement. And I've been doing that
Speaker 1: and I've been really adjusting to it. And I feel
Speaker 1: like this last like the last half of last week
Speaker 1: and this week has just been so much more wife
Speaker 1: and like almost easy because in a good environment, because
Speaker 1: I'm already going to beat yourself myself. I'm already going
Speaker 1: to do that, Like you don't have to worry about that.
Speaker 1: I got that covered, So I'm already there. So if
Speaker 1: I'm part of myself and he's double it's like double
Speaker 1: heart on myself. I need to have him lift me
Speaker 1: because I'm already inside just going like you can't do this,
Speaker 1: you can't do this. I need him to be like
Speaker 1: you can do this, and me go okay, right, you know,
Speaker 1: I see her right away and I'm like, oh, she's
Speaker 1: really like understanding it and she's not allowing herself to
Speaker 1: do it yet. And then when she does, it's like
Speaker 1: we finished, Like that was that was fun. That was great,
Speaker 1: and so like that to me is like I want
Speaker 1: to be better at facilitating that. For just it's almost
Speaker 1: like you gotta let go believe and let god you know,
Speaker 1: just for sure. Who's who's y'all's biggest competition? Do you think? Oh? Everyone? Everyone?
Speaker 1: You could just name one? Who do you think? Because
Speaker 1: who's who thinks the one? Honestly, I seriously can't tell you.
Speaker 1: You could probably say one, Jane, I I feel like,
Speaker 1: going into it, you may think there's one or two.
Speaker 1: But when you're standing on that balcony and you're watching everyone,
Speaker 1: I mean you're like, oh that that person. Like every
Speaker 1: you can see everyone getting to the finals this season.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's always like that on every
Speaker 1: season of this show, but you even said yourself, like
Speaker 1: everyone's really good, Like there's at least half of the
Speaker 1: people in this caste. You're like, oh my god, there's
Speaker 1: there's the beauty about the show is that it is
Speaker 1: about growing and learning. But there are amazing dancers already,
Speaker 1: you know, Like it's this is like one of the
Speaker 1: first seasons where you look at like more than half
Speaker 1: the casting like on any other season, this person is
Speaker 1: a winner actually a good way to put it. And
Speaker 1: so I don't know who's gonna win this season. I
Speaker 1: mean well, and not to be rude, but like Bobby
Speaker 1: Bones did win. So it's like sometimes it's not the
Speaker 1: best answer that wins, it's the best story and it's
Speaker 1: the best you know, authenticity and the I actually went
Speaker 1: back and rewatched some of his season and he was
Speaker 1: entertaining and he cared and he fun And I think
Speaker 1: that's what it is. It's not just who's the best dancer,
Speaker 1: but who's really who's doing this for a bit, is
Speaker 1: going to really let go and who's growing and really
Speaker 1: committing to the show. Um, any tips or any like
Speaker 1: a little tidbits you can give for for tomorrow because
Speaker 1: this is airing Sunday, So anything you can give us
Speaker 1: as a little tease yess is committing. I am all
Speaker 1: in from hit. I'm going to good Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. Well, you guys have to watch, Um
Speaker 1: Jesse and Alan vote for them on Disney Plus. Um
Speaker 1: you can watch it live there and you guys were rooting.
Speaker 1: We're voting, we're loving and um Jesse, let me know
Speaker 1: which Monday I can come out and see any any
Speaker 1: of them came this Monday, come tomorrow. Okay, let me
Speaker 1: say that I can call Mike and we'll text. We'll
Speaker 1: see which one. Okay, okay, Um, I love you guys
Speaker 1: so much, thanks for coming on by. Wait do you
Speaker 1: want to go to l A. Where's tomorrow? Tomorrow? My
Speaker 1: life doesn't work well now that Colvin's not getting a divorce.
Speaker 1: Like you know, Nick can watch the kids. We can
Speaker 1: do There's a thing. I actually saw you more when
Speaker 1: you were married. That's like, that's the thing. I'm like
Speaker 1: you Bee, like, oh, it's still gonna work for Jenna's
Speaker 1: agenda with her being singles like no, no, no, it
Speaker 1: actually works better when they were married, right, I got
Speaker 1: to see her more. I know that your text was
Speaker 1: like I can't it's not my kid for a weekend,
Speaker 1: I can't, And I was like, my kids are so
Speaker 1: your kids are, Um, well No, But seriously, I love Jessine.
Speaker 1: I love the way that she I'm gonna start, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna start praying for y'all, for the main people. No, seriously,
Speaker 1: because about the perspective. That's not going to change. So
Speaker 1: it's change our perspective. No, I know. Is I got
Speaker 1: a dozen rosists, That's all I care about. Is there
Speaker 1: anything you want to tell us? Nope? Is there a
Speaker 1: thousand things you want to tell us? Goodbye?